can we just remember that the invasion of Iraq had absolutely NOTHIN to do with terrorism, insurgents or 9/11. but the FACT Hussain was moving away from the Dollar to trading exclusively in the Euro. the Bush administration were very concerned with that move and Gaddafi's establishing the Africa Bank. the invasion was purely money related.
@@YAHWH_Saves secondary. Within 2 weeks of the invasion Iraq was back trading in the dollar. Then to stop al-Assad in Syria and Gaddafi in Libya the 'Arab Spring' was started. Those that were interested in the Africa Bank were ousted and murdered. Now Libya is a failed state with regional conflicts and a 1/3 of Syria is under the control of the American military, it just happens to be the third were all the oil is. Billions of dollars a day in oil reserves are being stolen and the media says nothing.
@@Komyeta every 'terrorist' involved in 9/11 were Saudi Nationals. No one from Iraq had anything to do with or knew anything about 9/11 until they, like everyone else (except the 3 Israeli journalists that just happened to be in a brilliant vantage point to film the two towers) saw the events unfold on the news. Same as the invasion of Afghanistan because OBL was living in a cave somewhere. America got the heroin flowing again (the Taliban had completely stopped the growing, processing and shipping of the stuff, as it went and goes against their religion) and gutted the country of whatever wealth it possessed. Not to mention the couple of billion dollars that simply vanished into 'thin air'. Some people in America made a LOT of money by helping almost 2 trillion dollars 'disappear' in those two wars.
As a Marine who was in the invasion in '03, I'd just like to point out that we didn't have armored humvees or body armor either, and we were in the military. None of that started to show up until the second and third tour
Remember when parents were buying and sending their children body armor to have the military say "FUCK YOU, NO because your armor doesn't work". Then we caught the generals and contractors wearing that same armor and get in 0 trouble. FUCK THE ENTIRE MILITARY LEADERSHIP. THEY AREN'T US.
Did you ever ride in an MRAP or was that something that came along after your time? If so which one and What did you think of them? Ty for your service also
When I was in the ARMY a lot of the times we would get attacked would be as retaliation for Blackwater going into these Iraqi neighborhoods and doing something really messed up. Since they would be in and out and not have to regularly patrol these places, they didn't care who they pissed off, or whose house they destroyed, meanwhile the regular soldiers like me who had to patrol those same streets would be the one getting road side bombed in retaliation. Had zero respect for them while I was in, and still don't. And that started way before hating them was popular.
You're an invader with fake accusation of WMD that never existed. Then steal 4 billion of Sadaam gold and it's oil until today. Disgusting ! Thieves are still thieves, killing 2 million people I'm Iraq and use DU shells that caused 245000 cancers and malnutrition after the war. You're not human. Just another devil. Human have compassion.
you should be just as upset about the US govt. (the same govt. your paycheck and training comes from) was not setting a clear standard for behavior, KNOWING that any rep. with a gun in IRAQ. is going to affect regular troops such as you.
@@HeronPoint2021 I mean I voted for John Kerry solely because he said he would get us out of there. I was stop-lossed for nearly 3 years, and deployed for 2 of those years, when this actually happened. I was super against the war and backdoor drafted to participate in it even though my contract had legally expired (this was later ruled by Congress to be unconstitutional, but by this point they no longer needed us).
@@Dobacat Took who out? Random unarmed people in the community I regularly patrolled? No thanks. You have this weird idea that being in Black Water meant you were some kind of a badass. I was more trained than most of these guys, and had an open invitation to join Triple Canopy when I ETS'd. Side effect of being Sniper qualified, with a ton of other ARMY schools. Black Water was never elite. Most of them were guys who couldn't hack it in the regular ARMY.
In about 2006 I read this book called Highway to Hell, by a British merc, forget the name, ex-SAS, who was in Iraq during that time. Great book, and crazy stuff in it. He really didn't like Blackwater, and they had a very bad reputation among many mercs. Why? He gave one example - Blackwater, in vehicles, blew through a small town and in doing so hit and killed a very young girl. They didn't even stop. The British mercs behind them saw what had happened and stopped, got out, and helped retrieve the body and then sat down with the village eldgers and drank tea and apologized, even though they had not done, it, just because it was the right thing to do and also if they had not done so the Iraqis would put them in with Blackwater and of course seek revenge. Kind of shows who they were.
You're very right about blackwater but not about the special forces. The BBC investigated them and found they were very likely to have committed dozens of assassinations but they top brass covered it up and shut down every single investigation although the evidence is pretty conclusive.
Maybe they were in a hurry? You shouldn't judge if you don't know all the facts. Things like this happen in a war, it isn't the fault of individual soldiers but the leaders that got the country to the point where foreign intervention was necessary.
I was based in Ramadi at the time. During a patrol, we saw the contractors on the bridge from a distance. It was assumed that the insurgency had been screwing with the locals. That day changed our ROEs from “Hostile Act” to “Hostile Intent” and we could finally be on the constant offensive instead of defensive and waiting to be shot first. I interacted with a lot of PMCs on various bases and never did they seem to feel that their safety came before profit.
Brit SF guy that I knew , said when he started contracting himself, he was first tasked with them.. But said they had horrible tactical methods that just did not at all made any sense. Like they did not have proper methods to get in and out and cover eachother as every body moved around. And they were extremely arrogant about everything they did. He was glad to get away from them and was not surprised when it happened.
“Security services” propaganda is a wild thing. Blackwater is just the Western ‘Wagner’. I remember this well. Due to the photos of the men being online. The photos are incredibly gruesome. One shows a body hanging from what if I remember was a structure like a bridge or road sign (was years ago I saw them) and there were little kids and everything around. I felt awful that happened to them… however it does always really bother me that whenever someone like Russia has private “security” such as this… we call them, “mercenaries” or “contract killers” … yet whenever the U.S used them… they’re called, “private contractors” … really an insight into the dirty propaganda game of war. Exact same thing… seen two totally different ways depending whose side you’re on.
The difference is offense. Mercenaries ( Like Wagner) are outlawed because they can fight and seize territory. They are truly private army units. " security services" like Blackwater can only guard or escort according to international laws. They can guard people, bases, and drive along convoys to protect them, but they cannot " assault" or take territory. They are literally security guards with guns while mercenaries are soldiers for hire.
My tactic is to avoid being in other countries with weapons, especially as a PMC. I have found that this strategy has had good effect on my lifespan so far and I recommend this approach, especially to people with kids.
@@shepherdrm8486hey genius, invading sovereign countries makes more people hate us and makes us more in danger. Taking part in these pointless and illegal wars is literally the opposite of protection. It’s antagonism. Iraq had no WMDs and had no intention to attack us. Post war it became a haven for terrorist groups like ISIS who do actually want to attack us.
Just to add context from someone who was there. This happened after the videos of allegedly black water pmc’s were killing civilians randomly for no reason and the abu ghraib shit show was exposed. All that on top of being an invading force, so to say there was a lot of hostility is an understatement
In LOUISIANA BATON ROUGE my formal supervisor RAY LAMONICA LSU LAW PROFESSOR/GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS use criminals to ambush innocent civilians. I am a federal whistleblower in LOUISIANA, and they put a target on my back after becoming a whistleblower. These officials/politicians' trains recruit's criminal's covert military operations executions/assassinations electronic weapons harassment chemical warfare/radiation poisoning black ops illegal surveillance home invasion break in (poisoning) torture terrorism infiltration false witnesses/documents political smear campaign gaslight community harassment, etc. I worked for these government officials for almost three decades until I became a whistleblower and they turned everyone against me. My family members are living wealthy lives at my expense to covertly assassinate my character/me. This is how criminals are able to live wealthy lives by covertly assassinating civilians manipulated by these government officials. My husband for over thirty years abandoned me move out manipulated by these officials. He also covertly gaslight community harass smear campaign. He was blackmail/threaten. It is a blood bath in LOUISIANA citizens are sacrificing each other for incentives. RAY LAMONICA is so calculating until I have seen him manipulate rich powerful people to dig their own graves and they are not aware until they are six feet under. RAY LAMONICA plays all sides this NARCISSIST assassinates manipulate divide/conquer everyone to show how much power he has. I worked for the most powerful richest influencers dictators in LOUISIANA until I became a whistleblower. I worked for RAY LAMONICA when he worked for RONALD REAGAN administration, and they called me back later years. I had no clue that these government officials were putting military executions weapons in the hands of the worst criminals. These government officials are a bunch of UNITED SNAKES OF AMERICA. To show how clever RAY LAMONICA is my last result was food stamps after I was blacklisted, and they had criminals to call in fraud and said my husband lives with me (lie) then they charge me with fraud.
@@deadinside736 Oh please, middle eastern Muslims are currently causing absolute chaos in Europe and have been for years now and yet they have the audacity to complain about "discrimination".
As an Iraqi and Anbarian citizen, I would like to point out that blackwater co. and some other military had extreme violations against civilians which later embarked anger and resistance. We can also notice a contradiction in the description, you call the military who harm civilians, "aggressive action" and people who defend themselves against the harming military, "insurgence"!
Yes that is the definition of insurgency. An armed paramilitary force engaging in assymetric warfare against the government. It's not a morally descriptive term.
Right...what do you expect when you blow ppl up with no regard? Pure cowardice...those actions will surely be met with a heavy hand. Enemies in the sandbox were and are savage. You'll receive no sympathy here buddy
@@vaclavjebavy5118they were freedom fighters, not insurgency, because the government was displaced from the occupiers. So they are freedom fighters, not insurgents.
@@altin3408 No, insurgency is the general term regardless of whether the government is legitimate or not. Just like you don't have to call armed men liberators or aggressors, you can just call them soldiers.
Didn't know you were a military general at the time. Never knew you spent countless hours in iraq observing the war. Good like in your fight against the lizards. (Take your meds schizo)
Its what cancer does, it spreads and affects everyone in the body even tho no one wants it there. USA is a cancer in this world so it acts like so. I would say you guys are doing a perfect job like a cancer. This said, these guys didnt die for nothing, they were mercs, mercs fight for money and this guys were paid to be there escorting that convoy. So literally they were killed for money, not for nothing. This idiots may be the only guys that were killed for a clear and honest cause in this conflict. The "killed for nothing" stuff applies to US soldiers, that were there to steal from people like in every single conflict usa get into. But the mercs? Killed for nothing? Haha no, they were killed for a veeeeery good salary. If you dont accept the posibility of beeing killed in war, you dont go to war. This guys wanted money, thats why you go to the private sector, if you want glory for your flag you stay on the military, there is where you can die for nothing.
The way things are currently going around the glove private armies such as Blackwater "no longer around" and Wagner group are a way to circumvent any moral rule with impunity allowing governments to play the "IT WASNT ME" card, this goes even further as regular government units and generals tend to dislike such groups because of communication issues back in Iraq and Ukraine today.
Well said. Have you seen the "leader" of Wangner ? How do you go from being a criminal to being a chief and haveing restraunts to owning a heavy duty private military ? I guse he would get paid from Russia ? no clue hes a messed up guy thats for sure.
I had a whole argument with someone getting mad for me pointing out the fact that the benghazi " contractors" are not heroes they are mercenaries that got a handsome paycheck to protect the embassy.
The contractors were escorting a shipment of cooking ware, no less, and for whatever reason did not take the long way going cross country or otherwise trying to avoid driving straight through Fallujah and creating several large obvious targets that practically screamed "AMERICAN CONTRACTORS!" The British PMC's, by contrast, had long before adopted a strategy of trying to blend in with local traffic, using old beat up trucks that looked as much as possible like the local Bongo trucks, and even dressing like the locals down to the face covering i.e. "going stealthy". And that way at worse if their cover was blown THEN they could reply with as much firepower as possible! But Blackwater guys had chosen to travel openly while looking exactly like what they were - which in Fallujah, was suicide.
@@altGoolam What about it? DU rounds aren't uncommon. Sucks if you get hit with one because the smallest DU munitions I know of are 30mm. But you get hit with anything 30mm in diameter and you're going to have a bad day. Uranium can be toxic, but that's true of all heavy metals, including lead. Depleted Uranium is actually less radioactive than natural uranium, because most of it comes from spent fuel in nuclear reactors after the bulk of the energy has been consumed. The fission products are separated from the uranium and you can then process the Uranium into penetrators for ammunition. You can actually hold natural and depleted uranium in your bare hands without any real risk to your health. The problem with ANY heavy metal (not just Uranium) comes from when it gets inside the body. It interferes with a number of bodily systems and gets carried by the blood to every area of the body. Some metals will bind with certain proteins or will damage proteins, which is why things like Chromium and Cadmium are carcinogenic. Because they interfere with protein function, they damage DNA. Uranium on the other hand tends to wreck the kidneys and liver first, which isn't surprising since they are the filters of the body. Longer exposure to Uranium compounds also damages DNA, but not as quickly as some others. Most people who end up with cancer from Uranium exposure worked around the substances for long periods. It's not really the radioactivity that causes problems. It's the chemical toxicity once Uranium is in your body. So if you ever pick up a piece of Uranium, just remember to wash your hands well before you eat anything.
Helvenston was on a reality show called “Combat Missions” where former SOF competed in physical competitions and then had to complete mock combat raids. It was a pretty good show that came out way before the reality show craze. He was also on an episode of “Man vs Beast” where he was faster than an chimpanzee over an obstacle course. Hearing that he was one killed and burned was a shock.
@@Prat-zi1ou We’ll see about that. Just wait Libtard, you’ll cry again like when Hillary lost. Go support a bunch of Epstein Island kid-diddlers some more.
You got me on “invading Iraq to fight terrorism.”😂😂😂 George W Bush and Collin Powell both clearly stated that US intelligence agencies know that Iraq have and will use WMD.. 21 years later…
@@ennerick6610 They join wars for monetary gain and are not part of the military.. they are mercenaries by definition.. the only reason we don't call them that is because they are on our side.
It's very sad what happened and I don't wish this upon nobody. But in any place in Europe or the US, if there was a group of armed Afghans driving around and they got pulled out of their cars and killed, we would say that terrorists were stopped. Blackwater had absolutely no business being in Afghanistan.
You have the right to bare arms in the US. If someone shot them without cause they'd be charged with murder... as they should be. The reaction by the local population was the bigger issue in my opinion. The way they seemed to celebrate murder was grotesque.
@@Valiere2024dude Americans were literally occupying their country, ofcourse they're happy to get rid of them. Imagine China invading the US and riding around in your cities. Wouldnt you try to get rid of them.
@@Valiere2024 they were fighting invaders that could blow them up from 7.5 miles away with an invisible apache that they can't even see. A successful ambush like this is a huge win to them, you have no clue, this is not fighting Russian troops, this is fighting US troops.
I feel terrible for any type of violence but what did these guys expect? Imagine what the American public would do if Iran, China, or Russia invaded the USA and then drove around like conquering heroes. How would Americans react?
I was working with the MARINES at Fallujah when this happened. It was like the country blew up during this period, as other convoys were hit during the same period. lot of issues were identified at this point, as mentioned in the video.
i believe if any invader what ever reason to bring US democracy or monarchy, American will blow up or attack invader. nobody like invader when your family member died in the war, you will feel grudge and very anger
most controversial thing is that mercenaries are free game for any adversary, due to the simple fact that the geneva convention does not apply for PMCs
Back in '05 while in Iraq we had some contractors get ambushed while passing through our AO, they didn't request a security detail or even notify us that they were passing through and one of the truckers was killed by an IED, the video was horrible 😔
Same, they rolled up on our FOB and we lit them up. They had the nerve to get pissed but never announced themselves, answered radio calls, or told us they were coming. Our Capt told them to get the fuck out of our FOB and never come back
you have to be an us proxy to have it the other way around. western hypocrisy at it's finest. multipolar order ccouldn't have came at a better time :) they did it to themselves by turning most of the global south against them. good riddence
@daveh71 if you wanna shit on your bed and sleep in it, go nuts! But you don't have the right to do it in someone else's bed. Does that make it easier for you to understand?
I did. I invaded Iraq. OIF ‘03 ‘04 ‘05 Infantry front lines and never fired a round. We were not monsters. We didn’t understand this at the time. You clearly weren’t around for the 9/11 attacks. Our evil government used our patriotism to begin a war and by the time we realized Uncle Sam was twisted, it was too late. Contractors - they are different and do not represent Troops. I hated contractors on the battlefield and I hated their actions that we had to deal with. History is not as simple as your young, naive mind, thinks it is…
@@rc123theycallme You may open your pie hole and insert your foot. I was in Kuwait and Iraq in September through December 2003 and again in November through January 2004. I was "drinking the corporate Kool aid" back then, but uncorked my head from backsides and retired in late 2005. I KNOW wtf. I'm sick of the fallacies our own "leaders" have foisted upon us. If you don't realize just wtf is going on, that's on you.
Haliberton, KBR, Blackwater contractors were making between $100-$250 racks per year during late 2003-2004 on up. Some contractors were willing to take that chance of putting in a 10 year bid and retiring after 10yrs 🤔 At that time contractors were making more than us enlisted active duty troops were making in theater lol. That mighty dollar 💵 is a great motivator; just saying 🤔✌🏿
@@diaperdood1 yes but not as you would working here in the States. I worked as a contractor for many years during the gulf wars and made tons of money but you do have to pay some taxes.
Well and what did you expect? If you invade a country the locals will be enraged and as soon as they have the opportunity they will return what you did to them.
@@dirrenbb These groups formed after the US carried out "De-Baathification" where they fired all government servicemen, police etc. and cut off their pensions and other facilities. And since a huge stockpile of weapons of the Iraqi army was lying around and often unguarded due to lax Americans mostly relying on contractors, they grabbed those and sought vengeance upon the invaders. Not helped by how the Americans were treating the Iraqi people with Abu Gharib and all.
You forgot to show all of the clips of black water operatives shooting civilians while driving down the highway, which is why there was a targeted attack on Blackwater operatives 🤦
You’re correct,that from my perspective as a historian is called a “ slant” suggesting the person presented this video documentary as a propaganda piece only
That was the one recorded, there is many others attacks who were never recorded .. where those black water were mutilated then brnd alive. Only 10-15% of what happened in Iraq was recorded.
Don't be, saddam was a scumbag, as we're his sons. Iraq broke into civil war, based on the suppression the shia and kurds had been subject to. Whilst the war was badly implemented, don't excuse those who planted ieds, and indiscriminately killed their fellow citizens and destroyed mosques.
I mean, when you sign onto a mercenary group, is this not something that comes with the job? "Yeah, my son died chasing profit in a war he didn't have to be apart of, so I'm gonna need to see some money." Yeah, okay. He died doing exactly what he wanted to be doing, if anything, he should of made damn sure to doubly or triply check with his uppers on the intel. Even if all else fails, I mean shit, this is what you signed on for.
I understand what you're saying but desecrating corpses like that is just inhuman. Any person with an ounce of humanity would stop at the point of neutralizing the threat. Those people were sick to burn and hang the poor souls from a bridge.
@@anticontrabandThese people were sick of the invaders and gave them what they deserved. Abu Ghraib is just a small part of what Americans did to Iraqis, they have more than enough reasons to be angry at them
@@peloentupantalla7768 then why did they attack Iraqi Christian’s, Shia Muslims, etc. You seem to forget that they kill all infidels. Not just westerns. Then there’s beheading of journalists like Nick Berg and Eugene Armstrong.
@@anticontraband as an iraqi whos father fought against the American every iraqi was sick of American especially after abu ghrab video and people in anbar knows for thier bravery and strong angry attitude and black water itself killed iraqis
Nice, so you missed out on a six figure job. Also, I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 500 because you have to ATLEAST be tier 1 Special forces to even be considered by those guys.
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 Not at all. I had a friend who worked with Blackwater and he was just a nurse practitioner with a short time in the national guard.
Not even close. Looking a man in the eyes and watching the light go out after you ended him in hand to hand combat or with the pointy end of a sharp blade is “cool”, and only when it’s a fight for survival in a meaningful context. Walking around with high-tech (in comparison to how humans have disposed of others historically) gadgetry which allows one to kill from such an impersonal distance it renders death even more meaningless is not cool for anyone not overcompensating. One thing is clear- the Military Industrial Complex has many of you in a terrifying chokehold, and a good number of you don’t even know it.
Rest in peace all innocent citizen of Fallujah. American citizen would certainly not burn, drag and hang someone while takin pictures for their family to see. 😊
@@KingslayerBeforeDawn Have you ever seen the post cards of lynchings? Those people weren't even invaders, and Americans were proud to show off their brutal kills. Way more Civilians died in Fallujah than Americans. We killed hundred of thousands of civilians in the Iraq war. I'm pretty sure Americans would be proud to kill an Invader that blood thirsty.
Prior to being employed with Blackwater Zofko and Batalona were both employed by Cochise Consult in the same Operator capacity. Both of these men had to be released due to outrageous conduct and Ketamine use. After Batalone was fired and returned to Victory over his insane behavior (pointing a rifle at the head of a Contractor EOD Guy and threatening to kill him because he was hallucinating the EOD guy was following his wife (in the middle of Iraq?)). a search of his Hooch revealed a sizable stash of Ketamine. I was the Security Supervisor on the FOB both of these men worked. We had problems with both of them from the minute they landed in the Sandbox. The rest of the Cochise personnel were nothing but highly professional and their TL was a former Delta Operator who later lost his life to an IED. After the incident, the Scuttlebutt we picked up from other Contractors from Blackwater was that both individuals had convinced Tegue and Scott to go off route so they could give Tigue (a new Guy) a "Tour of Falluja. The Blackwater Contractors I came in contact with in Iraq were all professional guys.
I also worked with Jerry my first day in country ( we went to pickup Wes to bring him to the airport). I was the one Tommy told ( you handle Jerry) on his last day.
OMG giving a tour of Fallujah?" Unfortunately I do recall the extremely shocking video posted right after, that had been taken by one of the local Iraqi killers... POV of one Iraqi who actually ran up to the burning SUV and ripped the M4 off a very dead Scott Helvenston... if the "giving a tour" part is true, it is one of the most utterly fucked-up thing I ever heard. Because how would, or could experienced soldiers actually take a detour INTO a hot area full of locals, that hated Americans and proved it by trying to kill every American they saw?
I am not familiar with this stuff, so why do you imagine would a veteran soldier in battle, possibly feel like he needed to use ketamine? Hide pain from an injury, battlefield courage in a pill, why?
I heard they were targeted and it was a plan to take those specific contractors out because of their demeanor towards the locals. Just what I was told and heard. Some of our contractors were in Fallujah, they definitely earned their pay. I was in Babylon and Karbala, easy peasy for the most part in that area thanks to the Army softening it all up and the Iraqi Police taking over 2004-2005. Craziest 12 months I ever had but would do it again.
@@rgergashev we were told it was only 2 vehicles from Blackwater and they were armorerd. We never came across anyone in unarmored Tahoes but in our group. Never heard it was a convoy, just that they knew they were coming through town and waited for them for specific reasons.
I don’t believe that at all. Everyone was a target in that time period. I don’t think I ever saw an armored contractor vehicle when I was there in 04. I was based out of Ramadi but we moved around a lot and have been in Fallujah and every hot spot within The Triangle.
@@Swiat34 Different areas, different experiences with the locals in those areas made for crazy in that toilet bowl. I was not out very often but we had daily reports of BS going down, so my info came from the area I was in, which could definitely be tainted. Realistically we had no clue what was going on unless someone from that particular area came through a Hodji Market and told us what was up.
No sympathy for mercenaries. There was an incident where they were driving and heard a shot - and panicked. They stopped the vehicle and started shooing in all directions, killing innocent Iraqis. They were quickly shipped back to the US to avoid any legal problems. Several years ago there was a video on RUclips showing contractors shooting out the back of their vehicle and laughing as the Iraqis drove to avoid their fire. This is what happens when mercenaries are hired at three times the salaries of soldiers, and are NOT under the UCMJ.
Blackwater is a shadow branch of the military, legally distinct from the US just enough to commit all the war crimes the US wants to but would look bad. I don't see mercs separate from the rest of the US military. Blood they spill is the blood the US spills.
I worked with Helvenston on the movie sets of GI Jane. Helvenston was a SEAL advisor. I just left the elite branch of the Army after 16 years. He didn't know who I was. But he knew I was no slouch. I was hired on as a Helo SEAL and scuba diver for the Burmuda dive scenes that never happened. Helvenston would purposely try to aggravate me, so I always returned the favor. He put the donut ring in the Huey for the safety strap for Viggio Mortensen's standing on the skid and flying off, while Demi Moore was doing push-ups on the beach and water. I was the co-pilot. After Helvenston placed the doughnut ring, I told him I would inspect it for double security. He got mad. I was hoping he would wrestle me but would not. I'm surprised he lost his life the way he did.
@@pegasodeoro3158said this as a 240 pound man behind a computer screen, who has accomplished little to nothing in his life, besides not dying of a heart attack yet
@@yettiluch1 from wikipedia: "The Nisour Square massacre occurred on September 16, 2007, when employees of Blackwater Security Consulting (now Constellis), a private military company contracted by the US government to provide security services in Iraq, shot at Iraqi civilians, killing 17 and injuring 20 in Nisour Square, Baghdad, while escorting a U.S. embassy convoy." Then look up the eye witness accounts. The contractors explain away the incident as an unfortunate mistake, the civilians present described it as a deliberate act.
It is sad to see the Americans react only when they suffer war casualties rather than gruesome violation of human rights committed by their soldiers and allied forces. Abu guraib prison's shocking details revealed after this accident. Your war crimes will drag your whole nation into the dumpster of human history.
@@AmandaFromWisconsin His point was, all Americans should realize the horrible atrocity that was the unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq by the US. And that the US is not seen as a "glorious saviour" around the world like Americans are told to believe by their own media, but as a horrid monster like the USSR.
My recollection of this event is somewhat different. These Blackwater contractors were my PMC team. They would drive us to Taji daily. Our vehicles were soft skin as the armoured Toyota's and Suburbans hadn't arrived in Iraq. The vehicles we used didn't blend in with the local vehicles, and I can remember that the contractors actually complained about the lack of armoured vehicles and manpower.- For some context, Blackwater won the ESS security contract of CRG unfortunately they were waiting for the required armoured trucks.- We travelled in a 3 vehicle det daily the 15 miles from the red zone to Taji. It was on one of these trips that the team was tasked for the delivery of food and to return with equipment for the Dfac. They were to pick myself and Rob up at 1600 - 1630. The team was also told to drive on the outskirts of Al- Fallujah and not to enter the city. Our local staff drove out in front some distance from the team, and their mission was report any issues, mainly insurgent activity. I believe that these guys led the team to their demise.
@Aaron Thompson bad sentence structure by me? The PMC team, employed by ESS, utilised ESS local employee's to go out ahead of the PMC team to report any insurgent activities. However, this didn't happened all the time.
@@goodbill55 thank you. I knew one of their family members and at that time the company, as well as former friends/blackwater employees, were stonewalling the families on what happened. That was one reason for the lawsuit.
Before I explain the term, this is no endorsement of the policy it is just to answer your question. Insurgents were those who were actively working to destroy the Government of Iraq. Iraq is a Shia majority country, which was ran by a Sunni (minority) dictator, Sadaam Hussein. So when the US dismantled his government, we instituted democratic elections, which of course led to a reversal of this trend, as the majority of people voted into office were then Shia. Being that the Government was supported by the US occupying army, this was seen as illegitimate in the eyes of many Iraqis. So, while attacks were being carried out against US Troops, they were also being carried out against any / all Iraqi Government agents... like police, voter office personnel, local politicians, medical personnel etc etc etc.... the people killing and murdering these other folks... were dubbed insurgents, which literally is defined as rebel or revolutionary, as they were non-state actors... meaning no official government employed them, they did not wear uniforms or identify as state military. A typical factor in state warfare is to wear a uniform, which is to display your allegiance and intent, which helps reduce the confusion against military combatants and civilians. Of course, it is known now that guerrilla war fighters are much more effective when they lie about their intent, and refuse to identify.
@@a1no1x so the americans wanted to install a puppet under the name of ''democratic elections'' they were attacking americans, which were a invading force, not the government, they could have dealt with the government later.
I worked for a British pic. I started in 06, our team room had a huge picture of the guys hangin and on fire in fallujha.I did that in country for about 4yrs. Then switched to shipboard security against pirates.
A worked with a couple civilian civil engineers that were there 04-06. Both's companies had to hire a pmc for security as government's position wasn't to provide military security for a contractor. The one was escorted from bridge to bridge by a blackwater team for assembly and inspection.
I was there for that specific incident and follow on fight - We did a relief in place (R.I.P) with elements of the 1st Marine Division at the "Brooklyn" bridge (the one they hung the contractors from). My CCP or casualty collection point was inside a small house next to that bridge.
Amazing, I saw the photos of this when I arrived in Baghdad in Apr 04. I didn't realise that this had just happened before I turned up. Shocking and sad loss.
My first tour in Iraq was in early 2004. We had sand bags supported by plywood and 2x4s on our vehicles. We drove that way from Kuwait to our base at Camp Boom.
We called those FOB runners as they were not allowed to roll out the wire. my first tour was '03. '05,'07 and '09 I was on tanks mostly and it was rough then with 2005 being the worst deployment of my life. constant IED attacks, complex ambushes and IDF on a daily basis. I hated it. still have nightmares
@@alexlawler4964he is talking about the mercaneries and the us govt. Killing 1 million civilians on false claims. That sure is terroristic😂 they got what was coming for them
Oh yeah? Well I have zero sympathy for disgusting arab jihads invading our countries, murdering our citizens and r@ping our women. And yeah I said invading, because let's not call it anything other than what it is, an invasion.
I remember this all too well. Was in BIAP when we saw this. Not the palace side. The side that always got mortared. Along with Log Base Seitz. We heard it was just two vehicles. Nothing on the other two trucks. We did hear they were supposed to go around Fallujah and they didn't follow the route. Something to that effect. Fallujah was always a bad spot. 101 told the Marines that took over the AO after the invasion to make sure they watch out. Word was the Marines CO wanted to win hearts and minds after 101 turned Fallujah over. Again, mind you, this was 03. I wonder if his approach would've been different if he knew that shit was going to go down. I still can't believe as an 88M with no body or vehicle armor, we only lost one there.
I was at Kalsu in 2003-2004 and every time we went to LSA Sietz it seemed like there was an attack. I went on R&R to Qatar in 12.03 and I had to spend the night at Sietz. Bought Heineken at the Haji Market though.
If the locals react that way, maybe the army was doing fucked up shit to them. Terrorist, insurgent, these are terms used for freedom fighters against a larger occupying force their ppl are suffering under.
Jerry Zovko was NOT a Ranger. He was an MP. I know, because I was in his Basic Training and OSUT class. (C Co., 787th MP Bn., October 91-March 92). The Gulf War was already over by then, but we all got National Defense Ribbons because we had enlisted during that time frame. He had Airborne School and Ranger School in his enlistment contract. He was assigned to Fort Bragg as an MP. I don't know if he ever got to go to Ranger School, but I do know that he never served in a Ranger Battalion. He also was a non-select at SFAS due to bad peer reviews, and he left the Army after his initial 5 year enlistment was up. And frankly, the guy was a jerk. He didn't deserve to get hung on a bridge in a 3rd world country, but he wasn't some special operations hero either. Whoever did this video needed to do some more research.
I knew him when he worked in Close Protection in Dubai, prior to working for Blackwater. He claimed to have attended Airborne School and Ranger School. He also said he was an MP and trained in Close Protection. I don't recall him saying he was actually a Ranger. He was a huge guy. He worked with a short Brit, an ex SAS guy named John Howard. They made an odd pair, a guy 5'6" & a huge 6'6" guy who looked like Frankenstein. He spoke Arabic and seemed like an OK guy. Didn't deserve the death he had. It was pretty awful. I saw the unedited version and it was pretty gruesome. He thought he was going to make big money in Iraq. In the end, I knew several guys who worked as contractors in Iraq who never made it back. We don't hear much about those guys, but a lot were killed.
The problem with all this. IS I was there at the time as AN ACTUALLY SERVING RANGER. And here's what REALLY HAPPENED. They were hired to guard high value convoys. the got baited. Into following attackers. WHEN THERE JOB. WAS TO STAY WITH AND GUARD THE PRINCIPAL/ CONVOY. they we're protecting. they ran in looking for a fight. And found it. THERE OWN DAMN FAULT. they're job was to get the convoy through. NOT chase the attackers. Into a lethal ambush
@Geoffrey Calligan; Looks like You don't have all the facts Brother. They didn't wander up to collect some scalps, they were killled inside their unarmored vehicles, they didn't even had the time to react. The vehicle that got away from the trucks was trying to escape the ambush. I saw one of the first videos that showed when the shooting started, they were executed at point blank range and receives a minimum of 100+ rds while they were sitting in the vehicle. They were sent without armored vehicles, sufficient personnel and no back up by Mr. Prince owner of blackwater deliverately. Feel free to do some research, You can find some details in the interviews made by the news channel to the familly of Scott,(RIP), when they were suing blackwater and it's owner. You can find out for Yourself what "REALLY HAPPENED" instead of speculating and saying that it was their fault. Take care. Semper Fi little Brother!
Were you a contractor or regular military? Also different time and different theater, as I'm sure you are aware. In my years as a contractor there were different factors that would play into ops - threat level, availability, etc...
@@Mox3712 money is the only factor, companies like Blackwater don't give a shit about their contractors that's why they let them get away with so much in Iraq which is what lead to this. all they care about is money. one of the worst if not the worst contactors around, their leadership was crap, and while they employed good men their rules and command let those men down. I you want to know what good contractors look like look as Executive outcomes
@@mrrager3475 bruv, in Afghanistan, our unit got so thinned out that we had no choice but to start stacking in ANAs into the patrol. 4 Marines + 12 ANAs (Who are mostly on drugs) is probably the biggest heart-stopping moment ever. and before you ask... yes, the ANA HAVE BETRAYED us. one of them shot two of our guys in the back with an M249, stole their NVGs and fled into the night. just one of a couple stories. Different factors, different commanders.
I remember arriving to Sadr, City Baghdad on April 1, 2004 with 2/5 CAV infantry with soft shell HMMWV’s, four days later we suffered a MASCAL and pretty much had our welders doing makeshift armor for our vehicles which the suspension system was not not built to endure. Few months later after multiple KIA’s and WIA congress finally send M1114’s and by then the opposition forces had arsenal that would go through that armor. That deployment was a total disaster. And we never did find this weapon of mass destruction!
@@Zarqawiisapussy You're basing your whole views on a bunch of stereotypes and false narratives. You know nothing about Arab society or culture, nor our religion. In any case, our countries do not concern you in any way, so how about you stfu and keep to your degenerate west.
@@Zarqawiisapussy what does this joker intend to waffle about? One look at your profile and I can already tell how good of a product of billions of dollars of propaganda and brainwashing you are
I always thought that an escort of 4 men in 2 unarmored cars through FALLUJAH was complete madness, and highly uncharacteristic of SOF operators to be that unprepared. Turns out they had bad intel and the company and the military are to blame.. The family should have won that lawsuit..
The worst part, they had ORDERS not to enter Fallujah itself and to go via the outskirts, orders they chose to ignore merely to save time. And that cost them their lives.
Crying because their sons were killed - while being hired killers in an illegal war ? Seriously, if your son is a psychopathic killer it really isn't any wonder that his intended victims fought back.
I remember at the time immediately recognizing Scott Helvenston’s name from the early reality show “Combat Missions” on the USA Network. The show was probably in the 99 or 2000 timeframe.
Oh so you’re going to ignore the beheadings, suicide bombings, and torture of civilians? Oh and the fact that they keep attacking Shia Muslims and Christians?
@@Omar-tt4fd so killing people for religious indifference is a good thing? Y’all try so hard to keep your religion out of this. Islam can’t do wrong right? Zarqawi’s men fought just like ISIS today. You could argue that they’re a byproduct of the invasion then I’d agree with you. They only gained power after the invasion but to sit here and tell me Zarqawi was trying to save Iraq? You’d be a fool
@@Twitch-Ez you do know the guys in that prison got reprimanded right? They’re in prison now. My point still remains. If it makes you feel better, I don’t support it but I mostly certainly won’t support Sunni jihadism.
I was a veteran contracting at a nearby Marine base in Fallujah when this happened. Camp MEK. Can’t describe how devastating this was to everyone…or the fury.
My buddy died as a result of the aftermath of this. He was one of the many to invade Falluja. He was the SAW gunner and was repressing fire to allow his mates to escape. They all made it out save for him. RIP PFC Rogelio Ramirez. Semper Fi.
@@SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH No! I did not serve. My buddy served. I simply respect him and honor his memory as a US Marine. But I would never accept a thank you for something I did not do, especially something like what my friend died doing. Thank my friend for his service. PFC Rogelio Ramirez.
Nah. More like “never adhere to civility and hand-tying rules when at war with people who intentionally cast off both.” We coulda easily swept that place but the bleeding hearts sitting on their couches at home couldnt stand to hear about us troops doing what NEEDED to be done.
@@Swiat34 Also, America employed shock and awe tactics time and again to put fear into people's hearts. Do Abu Gharib, Guantanamo Bay and Bagram prisons ring any bells? It is just American active or ex-millitary personnel who deceive themselves by claiming they only lost in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam because of political reasons. You can see the footage of American soldiers celebrating in Vietnam after they heard on radio that Vietnam war was finally over. USA literally begged Taliban to give them a safe way out so Afghanistan war could be over. So brave. So courageous. Even whilst having all the technology in the world at their disposal. I'd day give quarter of tech America has to those Muslim countries and we will see who is brave and couragous.
Thank you so much for this! I had always wondered how Mike and Scott were killed. I knew Wes and Jerry were in one vehicle due to the video footage. I am confident now that 3 of the men were killed very quickly with only Wes dying after trying to drive away.
USA, the cancer of this world caused 90% of the wars of aggression after 1945, plundered and murdered millions of innocent people,vietnam ,panama ,cuba,iraq,kuweit ,ukraine ,yugoslavia etc want more?
@@BenRover2961ukraine didn't have a world leader trying to exterminate the Russians, like how it was with the Iraqis and Kurds, also zelinkskis sons aren't going around ukraine raping newly wed women... like sadams sons were
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can we just remember that the invasion of Iraq had absolutely NOTHIN to do with terrorism, insurgents or 9/11. but the FACT Hussain was moving away from the Dollar to trading exclusively in the Euro. the Bush administration were very concerned with that move and Gaddafi's establishing the Africa Bank. the invasion was purely money related.
Thought it was for oil
@@YAHWH_Saves secondary. Within 2 weeks of the invasion Iraq was back trading in the dollar. Then to stop al-Assad in Syria and Gaddafi in Libya the 'Arab Spring' was started. Those that were interested in the Africa Bank were ousted and murdered. Now Libya is a failed state with regional conflicts and a 1/3 of Syria is under the control of the American military, it just happens to be the third were all the oil is. Billions of dollars a day in oil reserves are being stolen and the media says nothing.
@@slatibaadfast So the American military is corrupt?
Holy Fuck, i thought it's all about revenge of 9/11
@@Komyeta every 'terrorist' involved in 9/11 were Saudi Nationals. No one from Iraq had anything to do with or knew anything about 9/11 until they, like everyone else (except the 3 Israeli journalists that just happened to be in a brilliant vantage point to film the two towers) saw the events unfold on the news. Same as the invasion of Afghanistan because OBL was living in a cave somewhere. America got the heroin flowing again (the Taliban had completely stopped the growing, processing and shipping of the stuff, as it went and goes against their religion) and gutted the country of whatever wealth it possessed. Not to mention the couple of billion dollars that simply vanished into 'thin air'. Some people in America made a LOT of money by helping almost 2 trillion dollars 'disappear' in those two wars.
As a Marine who was in the invasion in '03, I'd just like to point out that we didn't have armored humvees or body armor either, and we were in the military. None of that started to show up until the second and third tour
Why ain't you 6ft under the dirt yet? Murderer
You murderer
Remember when parents were buying and sending their children body armor to have the military say "FUCK YOU, NO because your armor doesn't work". Then we caught the generals and contractors wearing that same armor and get in 0 trouble. FUCK THE ENTIRE MILITARY LEADERSHIP. THEY AREN'T US.
Did you ever ride in an MRAP or was that something that came along after your time? If so which one and What did you think of them? Ty for your service also
@@penskepc2374 I didn't. We had humvees without doors. I remember lining the floorboards with sandbags. Lol.
When I was in the ARMY a lot of the times we would get attacked would be as retaliation for Blackwater going into these Iraqi neighborhoods and doing something really messed up. Since they would be in and out and not have to regularly patrol these places, they didn't care who they pissed off, or whose house they destroyed, meanwhile the regular soldiers like me who had to patrol those same streets would be the one getting road side bombed in retaliation. Had zero respect for them while I was in, and still don't. And that started way before hating them was popular.
You're an invader with fake accusation of WMD that never existed.
Then steal 4 billion of Sadaam gold and it's oil until today. Disgusting ! Thieves are still thieves, killing 2 million people I'm Iraq and use DU shells that caused 245000 cancers and malnutrition after the war. You're not human. Just another devil. Human have compassion.
commit a brutal and unprovoked invasion, get roadside bombed. seems fair to me. i have zero respect for any soldier.
you should be just as upset about the US govt. (the same govt. your paycheck and training comes from) was not setting a clear standard for behavior, KNOWING that any rep. with a gun in IRAQ. is going to affect regular troops such as you.
@@HeronPoint2021 I mean I voted for John Kerry solely because he said he would get us out of there. I was stop-lossed for nearly 3 years, and deployed for 2 of those years, when this actually happened. I was super against the war and backdoor drafted to participate in it even though my contract had legally expired (this was later ruled by Congress to be unconstitutional, but by this point they no longer needed us).
@@Dobacat Took who out? Random unarmed people in the community I regularly patrolled? No thanks. You have this weird idea that being in Black Water meant you were some kind of a badass. I was more trained than most of these guys, and had an open invitation to join Triple Canopy when I ETS'd. Side effect of being Sniper qualified, with a ton of other ARMY schools. Black Water was never elite. Most of them were guys who couldn't hack it in the regular ARMY.
Corrupt iraqi force? Helping mercenaries and foreigners who invaded your country would be true corruption.
I said the same thing...if they protected the invaders they would be good Iraqi force.. lmfao..the American logic..
They were insurgents against the current iraqui government, so yes, they were corrupt.
Right lmao. Fighting against globalist occupation is considered "corrupt" by the globalists
Makes sense
yes lets help the peaceful islamic extremists!
@mrhappyfolger2721 no wonder they are so close with Israel
contractor = mercenaries
insurgents = resistance
just to correct the words.
Thank you sir!
Hanging bodies from a bridge = sick, barbaric and asking for it.
You are ignorant sir!
insurgent=terrorist
mercenaries call themselves contractors the same reason prostitutes call themselves escorts.
local resistance= "insurgents" paid foreign lawless invaders= "contractors"
In about 2006 I read this book called Highway to Hell, by a British merc, forget the name, ex-SAS, who was in Iraq during that time. Great book, and crazy stuff in it. He really didn't like Blackwater, and they had a very bad reputation among many mercs. Why? He gave one example - Blackwater, in vehicles, blew through a small town and in doing so hit and killed a very young girl. They didn't even stop. The British mercs behind them saw what had happened and stopped, got out, and helped retrieve the body and then sat down with the village eldgers and drank tea and apologized, even though they had not done, it, just because it was the right thing to do and also if they had not done so the Iraqis would put them in with Blackwater and of course seek revenge. Kind of shows who they were.
after all sounds the brits where pussys at these moment. If u invade a country take the consequences...
Fck contractors, especially doing invasion in other countries. Now, Iraqis and Afganis would hate and would attack any American for years.
You're very right about blackwater but not about the special forces. The BBC investigated them and found they were very likely to have committed dozens of assassinations but they top brass covered it up and shut down every single investigation although the evidence is pretty conclusive.
Fook Blackwater
Maybe they were in a hurry? You shouldn't judge if you don't know all the facts. Things like this happen in a war, it isn't the fault of individual soldiers but the leaders that got the country to the point where foreign intervention was necessary.
I was based in Ramadi at the time. During a patrol, we saw the contractors on the bridge from a distance. It was assumed that the insurgency had been screwing with the locals. That day changed our ROEs from “Hostile Act” to “Hostile Intent” and we could finally be on the constant offensive instead of defensive and waiting to be shot first. I interacted with a lot of PMCs on various bases and never did they seem to feel that their safety came before profit.
How many innocent people you killlled? You war criminal
@Joe "Cornpop" Biden What happened?
@Joe "Cornpop" Biden Lava from a volcano?
Yeah, this is a Hit Piece on Blackwater👍
@@CIintB3ASTW0oD It’s a starwars reference.
With blackwaters reputation, these guys had it coming apparently
100%
YEP
Brit SF guy that I knew , said when he started contracting himself, he was first tasked with them.. But said they had horrible tactical methods that just did not at all made any sense. Like they did not have proper methods to get in and out and cover eachother as every body moved around. And they were extremely arrogant about everything they did. He was glad to get away from them and was not surprised when it happened.
Just doing what the United States Military and CIA were asking them to do. 😮
“Security services” propaganda is a wild thing. Blackwater is just the Western ‘Wagner’.
I remember this well. Due to the photos of the men being online. The photos are incredibly gruesome. One shows a body hanging from what if I remember was a structure like a bridge or road sign (was years ago I saw them) and there were little kids and everything around.
I felt awful that happened to them… however it does always really bother me that whenever someone like Russia has private “security” such as this… we call them, “mercenaries” or “contract killers” … yet whenever the U.S used them… they’re called, “private contractors” … really an insight into the dirty propaganda game of war. Exact same thing… seen two totally different ways depending whose side you’re on.
@@stuhnnn
His point
Your head
@@stuhnnn ur a literal bot stfu
Do not care, sandoids are subhuman and glassing the entire middle east would be the optimal outcome
The difference is offense. Mercenaries ( Like Wagner) are outlawed because they can fight and seize territory. They are truly private army units. " security services" like Blackwater can only guard or escort according to international laws. They can guard people, bases, and drive along convoys to protect them, but they cannot " assault" or take territory. They are literally security guards with guns while mercenaries are soldiers for hire.
@@stuhnnn f off NAFO bot
My tactic is to avoid being in other countries with weapons, especially as a PMC. I have found that this strategy has had good effect on my lifespan so far and I recommend this approach, especially to people with kids.
@@shepherdrm8486 You got brainwashed by the media. How are these idiots protecting the US thousands of kilometres away?
@@shepherdrm8486hey genius, invading sovereign countries makes more people hate us and makes us more in danger. Taking part in these pointless and illegal wars is literally the opposite of protection. It’s antagonism. Iraq had no WMDs and had no intention to attack us. Post war it became a haven for terrorist groups like ISIS who do actually want to attack us.
@@shepherdrm8486 Yet another brainwashed murican lmfao.
@@shepherdrm8486 lol you don’t gotta serve a country to defend your family, government issues aren’t your issues big dawg😂
@@shepherdrm8486you fighting rich mans wars😂😂 not for your family
Just to add context from someone who was there. This happened after the videos of allegedly black water pmc’s were killing civilians randomly for no reason and the abu ghraib shit show was exposed. All that on top of being an invading force, so to say there was a lot of hostility is an understatement
so they basically got what they deserved
@@AcolisYes, deserved and actualy asked for.
@@Acolis Fuck around, find out. Guess which ending they got.
@@Acolis Yep
@@Acolis the insurgents? yes, they got what they deserved. even got to watch daddy Saddam swing before they left.
They killed more than 1 million iraqi civilians and yet they are crying for 4 mercenaries. Absolute hypocrisy.
In LOUISIANA BATON ROUGE my formal supervisor RAY LAMONICA LSU LAW PROFESSOR/GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS use criminals to ambush innocent civilians. I am a federal whistleblower in LOUISIANA, and they put a target on my back after becoming a whistleblower. These officials/politicians' trains recruit's criminal's covert military operations executions/assassinations electronic weapons harassment chemical warfare/radiation poisoning black ops illegal surveillance home invasion break in (poisoning) torture terrorism infiltration false witnesses/documents political smear campaign gaslight community harassment, etc. I worked for these government officials for almost three decades until I became a whistleblower and they turned everyone against me. My family members are living wealthy lives at my expense to covertly assassinate my character/me. This is how criminals are able to live wealthy lives by covertly assassinating civilians manipulated by these government officials. My husband for over thirty years abandoned me move out manipulated by these officials. He also covertly gaslight community harass smear campaign. He was blackmail/threaten. It is a blood bath in LOUISIANA citizens are sacrificing each other for incentives. RAY LAMONICA is so calculating until I have seen him manipulate rich powerful people to dig their own graves and they are not aware until they are six feet under. RAY LAMONICA plays all sides this NARCISSIST assassinates manipulate divide/conquer everyone to show how much power he has. I worked for the most powerful richest influencers dictators in LOUISIANA until I became a whistleblower. I worked for RAY LAMONICA when he worked for RONALD REAGAN administration, and they called me back later years. I had no clue that these government officials were putting military executions weapons in the hands of the worst criminals. These government officials are a bunch of UNITED SNAKES OF AMERICA. To show how clever RAY LAMONICA is my last result was food stamps after I was blacklisted, and they had criminals to call in fraud and said my husband lives with me (lie) then they charge me with fraud.
Whites
@@deadinside736cry more
@@deadinside736 Oh please, middle eastern Muslims are currently causing absolute chaos in Europe and have been for years now and yet they have the audacity to complain about "discrimination".
Americans...
As an Iraqi and Anbarian citizen, I would like to point out that blackwater co. and some other military had extreme violations against civilians which later embarked anger and resistance.
We can also notice a contradiction in the description, you call the military who harm civilians, "aggressive action" and people who defend themselves against the harming military, "insurgence"!
americans are psychotic
Yes that is the definition of insurgency. An armed paramilitary force engaging in assymetric warfare against the government. It's not a morally descriptive term.
Right...what do you expect when you blow ppl up with no regard? Pure cowardice...those actions will surely be met with a heavy hand. Enemies in the sandbox were and are savage. You'll receive no sympathy here buddy
@@vaclavjebavy5118they were freedom fighters, not insurgency, because the government was displaced from the occupiers. So they are freedom fighters, not insurgents.
@@altin3408 No, insurgency is the general term regardless of whether the government is legitimate or not. Just like you don't have to call armed men liberators or aggressors, you can just call them soldiers.
Its simple... We had absolutely NO reason to be there except to fill the coffers of the crime family syndicates. These people died for nothing.
Didn't know you were a military general at the time. Never knew you spent countless hours in iraq observing the war. Good like in your fight against the lizards.
(Take your meds schizo)
Amen
Its what cancer does, it spreads and affects everyone in the body even tho no one wants it there. USA is a cancer in this world so it acts like so. I would say you guys are doing a perfect job like a cancer.
This said, these guys didnt die for nothing, they were mercs, mercs fight for money and this guys were paid to be there escorting that convoy. So literally they were killed for money, not for nothing. This idiots may be the only guys that were killed for a clear and honest cause in this conflict. The "killed for nothing" stuff applies to US soldiers, that were there to steal from people like in every single conflict usa get into. But the mercs? Killed for nothing? Haha no, they were killed for a veeeeery good salary. If you dont accept the posibility of beeing killed in war, you dont go to war. This guys wanted money, thats why you go to the private sector, if you want glory for your flag you stay on the military, there is where you can die for nothing.
they died to extend the hegemony for another decade.
the façade is falling apart, and I'm pissed that I have to live to see it.
it serves them right. mercenaries are the worst kind of scumbags.
The way things are currently going around the glove private armies such as Blackwater "no longer around" and Wagner group are a way to circumvent any moral rule with impunity allowing governments to play the "IT WASNT ME" card, this goes even further as regular government units and generals tend to dislike such groups because of communication issues back in Iraq and Ukraine today.
like isis ties to col. james steele of the contras, mossad and the murder of michael hastings.
Well said. Have you seen the "leader" of Wangner ? How do you go from being a criminal to being a chief and haveing restraunts to owning a heavy duty private military ? I guse he would get paid from Russia ? no clue hes a messed up guy thats for sure.
MGS4 was right.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 yes it was...
Im just mad that I cant join a mercenary group to fight african communists like in the 60s
I love how we call mercenaries “contractors”
I had a whole argument with someone getting mad for me pointing out the fact that the benghazi " contractors" are not heroes they are mercenaries that got a handsome paycheck to protect the embassy.
@@donjon123 They're just doing what they paid for. Whats the big problem?
The contractors were escorting a shipment of cooking ware, no less, and for whatever reason did not take the long way going cross country or otherwise trying to avoid driving straight through Fallujah and creating several large obvious targets that practically screamed "AMERICAN CONTRACTORS!" The British PMC's, by contrast, had long before adopted a strategy of trying to blend in with local traffic, using old beat up trucks that looked as much as possible like the local Bongo trucks, and even dressing like the locals down to the face covering i.e. "going stealthy". And that way at worse if their cover was blown THEN they could reply with as much firepower as possible! But Blackwater guys had chosen to travel openly while looking exactly like what they were - which in Fallujah, was suicide.
dumb ass cowboy wannabes playing soldier getting what they deserve. soldiers of fortune are scum.
Sounds like the US PMC did it the American way, loud & brash.
So tell the world about the depleted Uranium used in Fallujah.
@@altGoolam What about it? DU rounds aren't uncommon. Sucks if you get hit with one because the smallest DU munitions I know of are 30mm. But you get hit with anything 30mm in diameter and you're going to have a bad day. Uranium can be toxic, but that's true of all heavy metals, including lead. Depleted Uranium is actually less radioactive than natural uranium, because most of it comes from spent fuel in nuclear reactors after the bulk of the energy has been consumed. The fission products are separated from the uranium and you can then process the Uranium into penetrators for ammunition. You can actually hold natural and depleted uranium in your bare hands without any real risk to your health. The problem with ANY heavy metal (not just Uranium) comes from when it gets inside the body. It interferes with a number of bodily systems and gets carried by the blood to every area of the body. Some metals will bind with certain proteins or will damage proteins, which is why things like Chromium and Cadmium are carcinogenic. Because they interfere with protein function, they damage DNA.
Uranium on the other hand tends to wreck the kidneys and liver first, which isn't surprising since they are the filters of the body. Longer exposure to Uranium compounds also damages DNA, but not as quickly as some others. Most people who end up with cancer from Uranium exposure worked around the substances for long periods. It's not really the radioactivity that causes problems. It's the chemical toxicity once Uranium is in your body. So if you ever pick up a piece of Uranium, just remember to wash your hands well before you eat anything.
@@DriveCarToBar nice long-winded response but they're likely talking about the depleted uranium effects on the soldiers who fire such weapons.
Helvenston was on a reality show called “Combat Missions” where former SOF competed in physical competitions and then had to complete mock combat raids. It was a pretty good show that came out way before the reality show craze. He was also on an episode of “Man vs Beast” where he was faster than an chimpanzee over an obstacle course. Hearing that he was one killed and burned was a shock.
Live by the gun die by it. Not much a shock really. They were mercenaries
he was faster than an chimpanzee 🤣😂😂😂😂LIAR . LIAR . LIAR . A chimp would have used that rope to escape
@@netslum12 Yeah, you’re right. Because he was a “mercenary” he deserved to be burned alive. Thanks for the stupid comment.
@@netslum12 it is quite a shock, unfortunately its low level grunts who die most often, not pmc mercs or SF
It only takes one bullet no matter how strong you are.
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Trump 2024.
@@ghostsofwargow2511 yeah in jail
@@Prat-zi1ou We’ll see about that. Just wait Libtard, you’ll cry again like when Hillary lost. Go support a bunch of Epstein Island kid-diddlers some more.
@@Prat-zi1ou yeah go ahead and destroy your nation 😂😂😂😂
tf is an Indian doing here ? Do you guys even care about wtf is going outside ? I thought you guys didn't
You got me on “invading Iraq to fight terrorism.”😂😂😂 George W Bush and Collin Powell both clearly stated that US intelligence agencies know that Iraq have and will use WMD.. 21 years later…
They had no Wmds. That was a Lie
Never should have been there in the first place. From the beginning until the end.
I guess f the millions of Iraqis killed by saddam or him invading Kuwait
well said.
Found the terrorists comment
isnt it strange how the debris of the 9/11 destroyed buildings were instantly exported to other countries to get destroyed??? bit weird.
Did we ever find these weapons of mass destruction btw 🙄
Private contractor😂😂😂 they really don't want to be called Mercenaries
This is not the same contractor are paid for defend and mercenaries are paid for kill sorry for bad anglish
@@ennerick6610 lol semathics.
@@ennerick6610 They join wars for monetary gain and are not part of the military.. they are mercenaries by definition.. the only reason we don't call them that is because they are on our side.
@@ennerick6610 so they wasn’t in iraq to kill? Wtf
There are legal implications to using the word "mercenary" is why.
It's very sad what happened and I don't wish this upon nobody. But in any place in Europe or the US, if there was a group of armed Afghans driving around and they got pulled out of their cars and killed, we would say that terrorists were stopped. Blackwater had absolutely no business being in Afghanistan.
You have the right to bare arms in the US. If someone shot them without cause they'd be charged with murder... as they should be. The reaction by the local population was the bigger issue in my opinion. The way they seemed to celebrate murder was grotesque.
@@Valiere2024 you have to be a us citizen to have that right. There is also a difference in being armed and presenting yourself as a mercenary.
@@Valiere2024dude Americans were literally occupying their country, ofcourse they're happy to get rid of them. Imagine China invading the US and riding around in your cities. Wouldnt you try to get rid of them.
@@Valiere2024 they were fighting invaders that could blow them up from 7.5 miles away with an invisible apache that they can't even see. A successful ambush like this is a huge win to them, you have no clue, this is not fighting Russian troops, this is fighting US troops.
@@Valiere2024 US did a brutal invasion and occupation, PMC killed civilians. These idiots got what they deserved.
I feel terrible for any type of violence but what did these guys expect? Imagine what the American public would do if Iran, China, or Russia invaded the USA and then drove around like conquering heroes. How would Americans react?
I'm sure the Americans wouldn't be too happy, what makes me shudder, is how would those countries treat us if they did roll us and occupy us?
@@ClarkBent604 Indeed. That's what most of these anti-America Americans tend to forget.
I was working with the MARINES at Fallujah when this happened. It was like the country blew up during this period, as other convoys were hit during the same period. lot of issues were identified at this point, as mentioned in the video.
How many innocent children you killed??
@@AliAhmed-mk1ib less than you probably who strapped children with bombs
@@AliAhmed-mk1ib none.. what about you? how many did you rape?
That will happen when you invade and destroy other countries without valid reason….
i believe if any invader what ever reason to bring US democracy or monarchy, American will blow up or attack invader. nobody like invader when your family member died in the war, you will feel grudge and very anger
most controversial thing is that mercenaries are free game for any adversary, due to the simple fact that the geneva convention does not apply for PMCs
What so controversial about that? Hired killers only do it for money. Money is the boss.
They're not bound by Geneva, they don't deserve it's protection
@@raverbunniaz They don't seem all that bothered by that anyway so, your point? lmao.
It's called geneva suggestion not convention
@@bolg892 no point and agreed stranger :)
Back in '05 while in Iraq we had some contractors get ambushed while passing through our AO, they didn't request a security detail or even notify us that they were passing through and one of the truckers was killed by an IED, the video was horrible 😔
Same, they rolled up on our FOB and we lit them up. They had the nerve to get pissed but never announced themselves, answered radio calls, or told us they were coming. Our Capt told them to get the fuck out of our FOB and never come back
The video? Who got it on video the insurgents?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes why are they in Iraq like in the first place
@@YahdDestroyer money lol
@@mickeyfinn4636 yeah, while on patrol searching houses we found a bunch of propaganda CDs, that attack was one of the clips they used.
USA: “when we say ‘defending freedom’ we actually mean ‘defending money’
You mean going to war in behest of a certain tribe that thrives on conflict ……
Sadly.
@@tonyromano6220 If only more people knew the truth
@@GitSumGamingwhat’s wrong with defending money? The money made by those countries funds terrorism.
@@GitSumGamingNo U.S. soldier has fought for our freedom. Why can't these idiots understand that?.
It's really funny how the terrorist invaders call the defenders of their country "insurgents" here.
yes!!
you have to be an us proxy to have it the other way around. western hypocrisy at it's finest. multipolar order ccouldn't have came at a better time :) they did it to themselves by turning most of the global south against them. good riddence
double standards.
@@unknown-zm4zx like with the outcry over Ukraine, west is the champion of freedom of hypocrisy
Its because the glorious Arab freedom fighters were jihadists that had islamist ideology,the kind of people that advocated to killing Americans / 9/11
Calling the locals insurgents when you invaded their country illegally and killed a million of them as a result is rich.
that is the only statement I will agree on. The Iraqis were not insurgents but the Iraqi people defending their country.
@daveh71 if you wanna shit on your bed and sleep in it, go nuts! But you don't have the right to do it in someone else's bed. Does that make it easier for you to understand?
@@GenAndrei I totally agree with U
Imagine defending animals
Imaging being an animal who got kicked out from vietnam and afghanistan like dogs then come barking in youtube comments @shawnfoogle920
Invaded Iraq even though Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Keep that in mind...
And killed directly and indirectly millions. Sad stuff. May they all rest in peace.
I did. I invaded Iraq. OIF ‘03 ‘04 ‘05 Infantry front lines and never fired a round. We were not monsters.
We didn’t understand this at the time. You clearly weren’t around for the 9/11 attacks. Our evil government used our patriotism to begin a war and by the time we realized Uncle Sam was twisted, it was too late.
Contractors - they are different and do not represent Troops. I hated contractors on the battlefield and I hated their actions that we had to deal with.
History is not as simple as your young, naive mind, thinks it is…
@@rc123theycallme You may open your pie hole and insert your foot. I was in Kuwait and Iraq in September through December 2003 and again in November through January 2004. I was "drinking the corporate Kool aid" back then, but uncorked my head from backsides and retired in late 2005. I KNOW wtf. I'm sick of the fallacies our own "leaders" have foisted upon us. If you don't realize just wtf is going on, that's on you.
Israel and oil money.
Then quit bitching gas prices are high lmao
Haliberton, KBR, Blackwater contractors were making between $100-$250 racks per year during late 2003-2004 on up. Some contractors were willing to take that chance of putting in a 10 year bid and retiring after 10yrs 🤔 At that time contractors were making more than us enlisted active duty troops were making in theater lol. That mighty dollar 💵 is a great motivator; just saying 🤔✌🏿
Of course the pay is a lot better but bear in mind that mercenaries do not receive the same protections as ordinary soldiers in the event of capture.
Anything is going to be better then enlisted pay.
Do they pay taxes on the pay?
@@diaperdood1 As a civilian yes
@@diaperdood1 yes but not as you would working here in the States. I worked as a contractor for many years during the gulf wars and made tons of money but you do have to pay some taxes.
Well and what did you expect? If you invade a country the locals will be enraged and as soon as they have the opportunity they will return what you did to them.
Indeed
You defeat Hussain. His troops mostly surrendered. Who are the insurgents General and what is their goal?
@@dirrenbb get a forreign army out of their land idk just think
@@kuqezi5733 Lmao. They only think in their own perspective.
@@dirrenbb These groups formed after the US carried out "De-Baathification" where they fired all government servicemen, police etc. and cut off their pensions and other facilities. And since a huge stockpile of weapons of the Iraqi army was lying around and often unguarded due to lax Americans mostly relying on contractors, they grabbed those and sought vengeance upon the invaders. Not helped by how the Americans were treating the Iraqi people with Abu Gharib and all.
Well, that's what happens when you go into another country unwelcomed, uninvited, and armed. No business being there.
Facts. Plus black water has been shown to be almost worse than the US military when it comes to killing innocents
So the bombing of Christians and Shia Muslims by these jihadists are also justified?
The soldiers don’t make the call
@@President.ballsdick These guys were not solders they private military contractors. Did you watch the video? Or even read the title?
@@President.ballsdick Fuck em
You forgot to show all of the clips of black water operatives shooting civilians while driving down the highway, which is why there was a targeted attack on Blackwater operatives 🤦
You’re correct,that from my perspective as a historian is called a “ slant” suggesting the person presented this video documentary as a propaganda piece only
That was the one recorded, there is many others attacks who were never recorded .. where those black water were mutilated then brnd alive. Only 10-15% of what happened in Iraq was recorded.
@@Al7amedI think they died before they were even taken out of the vehicles, both had been shot a bunch before the vehicle stopped.
for your content you deserve a lot more attention! Keep going
Weren’t these the same guys that killed all kinds of civilians?
Well same company, don't know if the same guys.
Different squads I think, those that killed civilians was in either 2007 or 08 if I'm right
same company, not same people, the ones who shot the civilians were fired and imprisoned.
@@TheQuietKidAmerican and then pardoned by Trump
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503doesn't matter anyway, the Iraqis aren't even the one who terrorized the 911 accident. And they still got invaded 😂
I am so ashamed that I even defended this war.
Don't be, saddam was a scumbag, as we're his sons.
Iraq broke into civil war, based on the suppression the shia and kurds had been subject to.
Whilst the war was badly implemented, don't excuse those who planted ieds, and indiscriminately killed their fellow citizens and destroyed mosques.
youre automatically above the brainwashed subhumans in this comment section currently defending it
Plenty more who still defend it if it makes you feel any better.
Did you see the Pat Tillmam story 😢
In the future there will be many sorry they defended the western backed coup in Ukraine causing the war that's leading to so much suffering.
oohhhh nooo poor blackwater contractors!
Anyways i think i'll make pancakes for lunch.
I mean, when you sign onto a mercenary group, is this not something that comes with the job? "Yeah, my son died chasing profit in a war he didn't have to be apart of, so I'm gonna need to see some money." Yeah, okay. He died doing exactly what he wanted to be doing, if anything, he should of made damn sure to doubly or triply check with his uppers on the intel. Even if all else fails, I mean shit, this is what you signed on for.
may americha fall
I understand what you're saying but desecrating corpses like that is just inhuman. Any person with an ounce of humanity would stop at the point of neutralizing the threat. Those people were sick to burn and hang the poor souls from a bridge.
@@anticontrabandThese people were sick of the invaders and gave them what they deserved. Abu Ghraib is just a small part of what Americans did to Iraqis, they have more than enough reasons to be angry at them
@@peloentupantalla7768 then why did they attack Iraqi Christian’s, Shia Muslims, etc. You seem to forget that they kill all infidels. Not just westerns. Then there’s beheading of journalists like Nick Berg and Eugene Armstrong.
@@anticontraband as an iraqi whos father fought against the American every iraqi was sick of American especially after abu ghrab video and people in anbar knows for thier bravery and strong angry attitude and black water itself killed iraqis
When I left the Marine Corps I was approached by a few PMCs. My answer was no because I remembered this incident.
You missed out bro. 5 best years of my life.
Nice, so you missed out on a six figure job. Also, I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for 500 because you have to ATLEAST be tier 1 Special forces to even be considered by those guys.
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 Maybe nowadays. Back in 2008? Not so much.
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 not really, in russia they take prisoners to PMC's
@@chewcacachewpipi8879 Not at all. I had a friend who worked with Blackwater and he was just a nurse practitioner with a short time in the national guard.
0:12 An A2 with a carry handle mounted acog is the epitome of cool.
Hate to be that guy,... but an A2 that rattled like shit and needed a solid loop sling to shoot when I got it in 2007 was still pretty cool.
100 percent right sir.
Not even close. Looking a man in the eyes and watching the light go out after you ended him in hand to hand combat or with the pointy end of a sharp blade is “cool”, and only when it’s a fight for survival in a meaningful context.
Walking around with high-tech (in comparison to how humans have disposed of others historically) gadgetry which allows one to kill from such an impersonal distance it renders death even more meaningless is not cool for anyone not overcompensating.
One thing is clear- the Military Industrial Complex has many of you in a terrifying chokehold, and a good number of you don’t even know it.
That’s called underfunding we all had M4s by my first deployment in 07 .
What a feel-good story thanks!
Rest in peace citizens of Fallujah. American Citizens would defend their homes from an imperial force as well. What a disaster of a war.
Rest in peace all innocent citizen of Fallujah. American citizen would certainly not burn, drag and hang someone while takin pictures for their family to see. 😊
@@KingslayerBeforeDawn Have you ever seen the post cards of lynchings? Those people weren't even invaders, and Americans were proud to show off their brutal kills. Way more Civilians died in Fallujah than Americans. We killed hundred of thousands of civilians in the Iraq war. I'm pretty sure Americans would be proud to kill an Invader that blood thirsty.
@@KingslayerBeforeDawntaking pictures? They were invaders not tourists😂
@@KingslayerBeforeDawnyes they would, and have. Including urinating on bodies, cutting off and collecting body parts as souvenirs etc
Would American citizens kill their own children instead of fighting the invaders? Because that what they did
Keep it up mate, these videos are very well put together and to the point.... thank you for bringing these things up in such a good video format
Prior to being employed with Blackwater Zofko and Batalona were both employed by Cochise Consult in the same Operator capacity. Both of these men had to be released due to outrageous conduct and Ketamine use. After Batalone was fired and returned to Victory over his insane behavior (pointing a rifle at the head of a Contractor EOD Guy and threatening to kill him because he was hallucinating the EOD guy was following his wife (in the middle of Iraq?)). a search of his Hooch revealed a sizable stash of Ketamine. I was the Security Supervisor on the FOB both of these men worked. We had problems with both of them from the minute they landed in the Sandbox. The rest of the Cochise personnel were nothing but highly professional and their TL was a former Delta Operator who later lost his life to an IED. After the incident, the Scuttlebutt we picked up from other Contractors from Blackwater was that both individuals had convinced Tegue and Scott to go off route so they could give Tigue (a new Guy) a "Tour of Falluja. The Blackwater Contractors I came in contact with in Iraq were all professional guys.
How'd dude get a f*ck ton of ketamine in iraq? Was he having it mailed to him from stateside I'd imagine?....
I also worked with Jerry my first day in country ( we went to pickup Wes to bring him to the airport). I was the one Tommy told ( you handle Jerry) on his last day.
OMG giving a tour of Fallujah?" Unfortunately I do recall the extremely shocking video posted right after, that had been taken by one of the local Iraqi killers... POV of one Iraqi who actually ran up to the burning SUV and ripped the M4 off a very dead Scott Helvenston... if the "giving a tour" part is true, it is one of the most utterly fucked-up thing I ever heard. Because how would, or could experienced soldiers actually take a detour INTO a hot area full of locals, that hated Americans and proved it by trying to kill every American they saw?
as someone who uses ketamine regularly, i can't imagine someone who is military trained AND uses ketamine is mentally stable, at all
I am not familiar with this stuff, so why do you imagine would a veteran soldier in battle, possibly feel like he needed to use ketamine? Hide pain from an injury, battlefield courage in a pill, why?
3:22 literally like that one ambush in CoD MW2
Feeling sorry for Blackwater is like feeling sorry for Wagner
AMEN.
Wagner, although no saints, at least had the decency to not plough though civilians.
@@Ronaldo-se3ff what?! they absolutely did kill civilians.
@@Ronaldo-se3ff (they didnt)
@@mentalitydesignvideowell, I'm sure your Rainbow Empire propaganda says they did, but they also say trans women are literally women lol
America after they invade a country and people fight back: 😮
Maybe don't commit Acts of terror and we won't invade you.
@SS Herrenvolk maybe don't involve yourself in other countries matters
@@Thegoldenaerobar2 maybe don't commit Acts of terror is our countries and we won't invade you. It's not hard.
@@Centiipede may be keep your damn nose out of other countries.... Or they'll kick you out....no matter what
@SS Herrenvolk what acts of terror?
this does bring a smile to my face
Didn't watch the video just wanted to stop by and LOL at blackwater. LOL
LOL
Username makes sense
@@n8bayonet Ghandi outside of his fights for equality was pretty evil anyway.
Crocodile tears. These black water murderers.
I heard they were targeted and it was a plan to take those specific contractors out because of their demeanor towards the locals. Just what I was told and heard. Some of our contractors were in Fallujah, they definitely earned their pay. I was in Babylon and Karbala, easy peasy for the most part in that area thanks to the Army softening it all up and the Iraqi Police taking over 2004-2005. Craziest 12 months I ever had but would do it again.
What happened to truck drivers?
@@rgergashev we were told it was only 2 vehicles from Blackwater and they were armorerd. We never came across anyone in unarmored Tahoes but in our group. Never heard it was a convoy, just that they knew they were coming through town and waited for them for specific reasons.
I don’t believe that at all. Everyone was a target in that time period. I don’t think I ever saw an armored contractor vehicle when I was there in 04. I was based out of Ramadi but we moved around a lot and have been in Fallujah and every hot spot within The Triangle.
@@Swiat34 Different areas, different experiences with the locals in those areas made for crazy in that toilet bowl. I was not out very often but we had daily reports of BS going down, so my info came from the area I was in, which could definitely be tainted. Realistically we had no clue what was going on unless someone from that particular area came through a Hodji Market and told us what was up.
@@rgergashev sure you killed a lot of innocent people, faluja the land of brave iraqi people
Your videos are super refreshing coming from dark docs and infographics that shit got ruined. I cant believe you dont have more subs
The media made it out like "contractors" were like carpenters and electricians
No sympathy for mercenaries. There was an incident where they were driving and heard a shot - and panicked. They stopped the vehicle and started shooing in all directions, killing innocent Iraqis. They were quickly shipped back to the US to avoid any legal problems. Several years ago there was a video on RUclips showing contractors shooting out the back of their vehicle and laughing as the Iraqis drove to avoid their fire. This is what happens when mercenaries are hired at three times the salaries of soldiers, and are NOT under the UCMJ.
Blackwater is a shadow branch of the military, legally distinct from the US just enough to commit all the war crimes the US wants to but would look bad. I don't see mercs separate from the rest of the US military. Blood they spill is the blood the US spills.
How could Blackwater argue they provided "the necessary security" given the result.
I worked with Helvenston on the movie sets of GI Jane. Helvenston was a SEAL advisor. I just left the elite branch of the Army after 16 years. He didn't know who I was.
But he knew I was no slouch. I was hired on as a Helo SEAL and scuba diver for the Burmuda dive scenes that never happened.
Helvenston would purposely try to aggravate me, so I always returned the favor. He put the donut ring in the Huey for the safety strap for Viggio Mortensen's standing on the skid and flying off, while Demi Moore was doing push-ups on the beach and water. I was the co-pilot.
After Helvenston placed the doughnut ring, I told him I would inspect it for double security. He got mad. I was hoping he would wrestle me but would not.
I'm surprised he lost his life the way he did.
Helvenston made military 🪖 history as the youngest navy seal !
Nice to see justice being served against invaders, murderers and thieve rats👏🏻
@@pegasodeoro3158 pipe it down before they take our oil too!
@@pegasodeoro3158said this as a 240 pound man behind a computer screen, who has accomplished little to nothing in his life, besides not dying of a heart attack yet
Damn... someone get me a tiny violin.
Here good sir 🎻
Well, after seeing just how bad they were acting over there, I'm honestly not really surprised they got dealt some similar fates from the locals...
Example?
@@yettiluch1 Google. They would ram into random civilians while driving and have committed several war crimes.
@@yettiluch1 from wikipedia:
"The Nisour Square massacre occurred on September 16, 2007, when employees of Blackwater Security Consulting (now Constellis), a private military company contracted by the US government to provide security services in Iraq, shot at Iraqi civilians, killing 17 and injuring 20 in Nisour Square, Baghdad, while escorting a U.S. embassy convoy."
Then look up the eye witness accounts. The contractors explain away the incident as an unfortunate mistake, the civilians present described it as a deliberate act.
It is sad to see the Americans react only when they suffer war casualties rather than gruesome violation of human rights committed by their soldiers and allied forces. Abu guraib prison's shocking details revealed after this accident.
Your war crimes will drag your whole nation into the dumpster of human history.
Depends on the American. And plenty of nations have committed war crimes and they're still around.
@@AmandaFromWisconsin His point was, all Americans should realize the horrible atrocity that was the unjustified and brutal invasion of Iraq by the US. And that the US is not seen as a "glorious saviour" around the world like Americans are told to believe by their own media, but as a horrid monster like the USSR.
wait who do you think the good guys are? 😂
Not trained?? They was a Navy Seal, a Green Beret and two Rangers. I’d suggest they were very well trained.
Well trained troops don't have loose trigger discipline
@@marseldagistani1989wtf are you talking about, just log off you’ve embarrassed yourself 😂
My recollection of this event is somewhat different. These Blackwater contractors were my PMC team. They would drive us to Taji daily. Our vehicles were soft skin as the armoured Toyota's and Suburbans hadn't arrived in Iraq. The vehicles we used didn't blend in with the local vehicles, and I can remember that the contractors actually complained about the lack of armoured vehicles and manpower.- For some context, Blackwater won the ESS security contract of CRG unfortunately they were waiting for the required armoured trucks.- We travelled in a 3 vehicle det daily the 15 miles from the red zone to Taji. It was on one of these trips that the team was tasked for the delivery of food and to return with equipment for the Dfac. They were to pick myself and Rob up at 1600 - 1630. The team was also told to drive on the outskirts of Al- Fallujah and not to enter the city. Our local staff drove out in front some distance from the team, and their mission was report any issues, mainly insurgent activity. I believe that these guys led the team to their demise.
Wow, thanks for sharing.
The local staff led them to their demise?
@Aaron Thompson bad sentence structure by me? The PMC team, employed by ESS, utilised ESS local employee's to go out ahead of the PMC team to report any insurgent activities. However, this didn't happened all the time.
Local staff played both sides
@@goodbill55 thank you. I knew one of their family members and at that time the company, as well as former friends/blackwater employees, were stonewalling the families on what happened. That was one reason for the lawsuit.
How do you call someone an “insurgent” in their own country?
Exactly
the american inflated ego, great satan
Before I explain the term, this is no endorsement of the policy it is just to answer your question. Insurgents were those who were actively working to destroy the Government of Iraq. Iraq is a Shia majority country, which was ran by a Sunni (minority) dictator, Sadaam Hussein. So when the US dismantled his government, we instituted democratic elections, which of course led to a reversal of this trend, as the majority of people voted into office were then Shia. Being that the Government was supported by the US occupying army, this was seen as illegitimate in the eyes of many Iraqis. So, while attacks were being carried out against US Troops, they were also being carried out against any / all Iraqi Government agents... like police, voter office personnel, local politicians, medical personnel etc etc etc.... the people killing and murdering these other folks... were dubbed insurgents, which literally is defined as rebel or revolutionary, as they were non-state actors... meaning no official government employed them, they did not wear uniforms or identify as state military. A typical factor in state warfare is to wear a uniform, which is to display your allegiance and intent, which helps reduce the confusion against military combatants and civilians. Of course, it is known now that guerrilla war fighters are much more effective when they lie about their intent, and refuse to identify.
Because we feel like it.
@@a1no1x so the americans wanted to install a puppet under the name of ''democratic elections'' they were attacking americans, which were a invading force, not the government, they could have dealt with the government later.
Excellent video and work, very professional. Your channel is going to blow up
Thank you!
The older I get, the more I root for these rebels. They were just fighting the zog.
ok maybe not the z*g
@@3haAD900 They used the media to attack Muslims like they are attacking Whites today
Move there then.
@@JeffSpehar-ov1cn How about we get our own country free of miscegenation
So go there then, no business for you in the west
I worked for a British pic. I started in 06, our team room had a huge picture of the guys hangin and on fire in fallujha.I did that in country for about 4yrs. Then switched to shipboard security against pirates.
A worked with a couple civilian civil engineers that were there 04-06. Both's companies had to hire a pmc for security as government's position wasn't to provide military security for a contractor. The one was escorted from bridge to bridge by a blackwater team for assembly and inspection.
Well. 20 years later, it still feels like justice.
I was there for that specific incident and follow on fight - We did a relief in place (R.I.P) with elements of the 1st Marine Division at the "Brooklyn" bridge (the one they hung the contractors from). My CCP or casualty collection point was inside a small house next to that bridge.
Why should I feel bad about a bunch of mercs?
you shouldnt, the video should be listed as comedy
I thought this was a feel good piece when I clicked on it lol the script shows they were trying to present it otherwise
Damn I can only imagine how amazing it must have felt for the insurgents to get revenge on that group
They’re not alive anymore. The mastermind was captured by Navy SEALs and their leader was hung by their government
They didn’t get away with it.
@@ivantoxie Courtesy of Naval Special Warfare
@@ZarqawiisapussyWho didn't get away with it? No one really knows who killed them. They might be alive but these mercenaries are definitely not
@@Zarqawiisapussy how do you know they didn’t get away with it ? Are you saying these stuff to make yourself feel better ?
Amazing, I saw the photos of this when I arrived in Baghdad in Apr 04. I didn't realise that this had just happened before I turned up. Shocking and sad loss.
My first tour in Iraq was in early 2004. We had sand bags supported by plywood and 2x4s on our vehicles. We drove that way from Kuwait to our base at Camp Boom.
We called those FOB runners as they were not allowed to roll out the wire. my first tour was '03. '05,'07 and '09 I was on tanks mostly and it was rough then with 2005 being the worst deployment of my life. constant IED attacks, complex ambushes and IDF on a daily basis. I hated it. still have nightmares
Stay in USA. Not it is OK!
Its almost like we weren’t liberating anyone
"The BRUTAL Ambush On Blackwater PMCs (No One Survived)!"
Good.
didnt this pmc also kill multiple civilians and are known to dabble in very shady shit?
@@GetReady34 Yes, and that's why it's good.
Zero sympathy for these war criminals.
Watch videos from October 7th and say that the ones who defend your freedom are war criminals
I know, rest in peace those we lost invading that terrorist country. May our brothers in arms be looked over by gods angel army
War criminals? Evidence of your charge please or you're just another asshole.
@@alexlawler4964he is talking about the mercaneries and the us govt. Killing 1 million civilians on false claims. That sure is terroristic😂 they got what was coming for them
Oh yeah? Well I have zero sympathy for disgusting arab jihads invading our countries, murdering our citizens and r@ping our women. And yeah I said invading, because let's not call it anything other than what it is, an invasion.
I remember this all too well. Was in BIAP when we saw this. Not the palace side. The side that always got mortared. Along with Log Base Seitz. We heard it was just two vehicles. Nothing on the other two trucks. We did hear they were supposed to go around Fallujah and they didn't follow the route. Something to that effect. Fallujah was always a bad spot. 101 told the Marines that took over the AO after the invasion to make sure they watch out. Word was the Marines CO wanted to win hearts and minds after 101 turned Fallujah over. Again, mind you, this was 03. I wonder if his approach would've been different if he knew that shit was going to go down. I still can't believe as an 88M with no body or vehicle armor, we only lost one there.
I was at Kalsu in 2003-2004 and every time we went to LSA Sietz it seemed like there was an attack. I went on R&R to Qatar in 12.03 and I had to spend the night at Sietz. Bought Heineken at the Haji Market though.
If the locals react that way, maybe the army was doing fucked up shit to them. Terrorist, insurgent, these are terms used for freedom fighters against a larger occupying force their ppl are suffering under.
Jerry Zovko was NOT a Ranger. He was an MP. I know, because I was in his Basic Training and OSUT class. (C Co., 787th MP Bn., October 91-March 92). The Gulf War was already over by then, but we all got National Defense Ribbons because we had enlisted during that time frame. He had Airborne School and Ranger School in his enlistment contract. He was assigned to Fort Bragg as an MP. I don't know if he ever got to go to Ranger School, but I do know that he never served in a Ranger Battalion. He also was a non-select at SFAS due to bad peer reviews, and he left the Army after his initial 5 year enlistment was up. And frankly, the guy was a jerk. He didn't deserve to get hung on a bridge in a 3rd world country, but he wasn't some special operations hero either. Whoever did this video needed to do some more research.
I knew him when he worked in Close Protection in Dubai, prior to working for Blackwater. He claimed to have attended Airborne School and Ranger School. He also said he was an MP and trained in Close Protection. I don't recall him saying he was actually a Ranger. He was a huge guy. He worked with a short Brit, an ex SAS guy named John Howard. They made an odd pair, a guy 5'6" & a huge 6'6" guy who looked like Frankenstein. He spoke Arabic and seemed like an OK guy. Didn't deserve the death he had. It was pretty awful. I saw the unedited version and it was pretty gruesome. He thought he was going to make big money in Iraq. In the end, I knew several guys who worked as contractors in Iraq who never made it back. We don't hear much about those guys, but a lot were killed.
@@tlevans62 and wasn't John Howard in on the raid to rescue the Iranian hostages in London? He set the charge to open access on the second floor??
@@HeronPoint2021 Indeed that's correct.
@@tlevans62"he thought he was going to make big money in iraq"
Well fuck him then.
@@tlevans62Where did you find the unedited version of the ambush?
This is a good example of how the winners write the "history"
The problem with all this. IS I was there at the time as AN ACTUALLY SERVING RANGER. And here's what REALLY HAPPENED. They were hired to guard high value convoys. the got baited. Into following attackers. WHEN THERE JOB. WAS TO STAY WITH AND GUARD THE PRINCIPAL/ CONVOY. they we're protecting. they ran in looking for a fight. And found it. THERE OWN DAMN FAULT. they're job was to get the convoy through. NOT chase the attackers. Into a lethal ambush
@Geoffrey Calligan; Looks like You don't have all the facts Brother. They didn't wander up to collect some scalps, they were killled inside their unarmored vehicles, they didn't even had the time to react. The vehicle that got away from the trucks was trying to escape the ambush. I saw one of the first videos that showed when the shooting started, they were executed at point blank range and receives a minimum of 100+ rds while they were sitting in the vehicle.
They were sent without armored vehicles, sufficient personnel and no back up by Mr. Prince owner of blackwater deliverately. Feel free to do some research, You can find some details in the interviews made by the news channel to the familly of Scott,(RIP), when they were suing blackwater and it's owner. You can find out for Yourself what "REALLY HAPPENED" instead of speculating and saying that it was their fault.
Take care.
Semper Fi little Brother!
Leave it to someone in the army who always getting kidnapped to tell bs stories. I bet you still wear your uniform into bar to get free drinks.
Was you really there ? It seems ‘your’ version differs from actual video evidence, whys that ?
You’re a lying POS. That’s not what happened.
Are u fr
Cheney made millions through Haliburton for never-ending wars. His daughter Liz grew up on blood-money and has the nerve to lecture us on how to live.
just 4 contractors for escort in such dangerous zone... we patrolled in kosovo which is close to 0 risk with 8 guys atleast
Were you a contractor or regular military? Also different time and different theater, as I'm sure you are aware. In my years as a contractor there were different factors that would play into ops - threat level, availability, etc...
Profit over lives.
@@Mox3712 in the army, sure, different factors but it just feels wrong...
@@Mox3712 money is the only factor, companies like Blackwater don't give a shit about their contractors that's why they let them get away with so much in Iraq which is what lead to this. all they care about is money. one of the worst if not the worst contactors around, their leadership was crap, and while they employed good men their rules and command let those men down. I you want to know what good contractors look like look as Executive outcomes
@@mrrager3475 bruv, in Afghanistan, our unit got so thinned out that we had no choice but to start stacking in ANAs into the patrol.
4 Marines + 12 ANAs (Who are mostly on drugs) is probably the biggest heart-stopping moment ever.
and before you ask... yes, the ANA HAVE BETRAYED us. one of them shot two of our guys in the back with an M249, stole their NVGs and fled into the night. just one of a couple stories.
Different factors, different commanders.
One man's insurgent is another man's freedom fighter.
Not if you’re a Christian from there, then you die
@@Zarqawiisapussy I like being from a country where freedom of religion exists. Blessed.
@@Cjones322 that’s not Iraq. If you’re a Christian, your head ends up on the street
@@ivantoxie iraqi civilians despise americans lol. you are a brainwashing victim
I can't say I have much sympathy for them.
Why
@@President.ballsdick Blackwater has a long history of brutalizing people. Just some dead thugs.
@@President.ballsdick just for context this happen after a video of blackwater soldiers killing civilians and after abu ghrab video
Nor should you have for the any Amerikkkan
@@aymanhasan-2991funny how you say that considering our country left the slave trade way before the arabs did.
I remember arriving to Sadr, City Baghdad on April 1, 2004 with 2/5 CAV infantry with soft shell HMMWV’s, four days later we suffered a MASCAL and pretty much had our welders doing makeshift armor for our vehicles which the suspension system was not not built to endure. Few months later after multiple KIA’s and WIA congress finally send M1114’s and by then the opposition forces had arsenal that would go through that armor. That deployment was a total disaster. And we never did find this weapon of mass destruction!
they deserves it only Americans will cry over invading another country and it's people retaliating back
Y’all behead atheists and subjugate women. You have no room to speak
@@Zarqawiisapussy You're basing your whole views on a bunch of stereotypes and false narratives. You know nothing about Arab society or culture, nor our religion. In any case, our countries do not concern you in any way, so how about you stfu and keep to your degenerate west.
@@Zarqawiisapussy the terrorist groups that do that are all funded and armed by the usa during the 80s🤣keep defending war criminals
@@AsadAbbasi-ss4bh it’s any country that enforces sharia law. Saudi Arabia? Iran? Etc.
@@Zarqawiisapussy what does this joker intend to waffle about? One look at your profile and I can already tell how good of a product of billions of dollars of propaganda and brainwashing you are
I always thought that an escort of 4 men in 2 unarmored cars through FALLUJAH was complete madness, and highly uncharacteristic of SOF operators to be that unprepared. Turns out they had bad intel and the company and the military are to blame.. The family should have won that lawsuit..
That’s not true dude
It was black waters manager that made them go 2 men short per team. One team decided to go around
The worst part, they had ORDERS not to enter Fallujah itself and to go via the outskirts, orders they chose to ignore merely to save time. And that cost them their lives.
Crying because their sons were killed - while being hired killers in an illegal war ? Seriously, if your son is a psychopathic killer it really isn't any wonder that his intended victims fought back.
What alot of you people don't understand; if you come against the might of the US empire, you will be crushed
Invaders got killed its pretty simple, like u calling russians in Ukraine. Blackwater and other NAFO personell are just occupiers over there :)
They invaded because of your glorious ar*b leader Saddam Hussein who killed his own and invaded USA allies
I remember at the time immediately recognizing Scott Helvenston’s name from the early reality show “Combat Missions” on the USA Network. The show was probably in the 99 or 2000 timeframe.
Same. I was gobsmacked when I saw information about the attack on the news and recognized him.
It takes a special kind of evil to call men defending the cities, towns and villages in which they were born in insurgents.
Oh so you’re going to ignore the beheadings, suicide bombings, and torture of civilians? Oh and the fact that they keep attacking Shia Muslims and Christians?
@@Zarqawiisapussy ignoring the war crimes that the us did their & replying to him. Just shows how brainwashed & naive most americans are
@@Omar-tt4fd so killing people for religious indifference is a good thing? Y’all try so hard to keep your religion out of this. Islam can’t do wrong right? Zarqawi’s men fought just like ISIS today. You could argue that they’re a byproduct of the invasion then I’d agree with you. They only gained power after the invasion but to sit here and tell me Zarqawi was trying to save Iraq? You’d be a fool
@@Zarqawiisapussy and you will ignore the video of abu ghrab and black water?
@@Twitch-Ez you do know the guys in that prison got reprimanded right? They’re in prison now. My point still remains. If it makes you feel better, I don’t support it but I mostly certainly won’t support Sunni jihadism.
I was a veteran contracting at a nearby Marine base in Fallujah when this happened. Camp MEK. Can’t describe how devastating this was to everyone…or the fury.
They called it WAGNER in Russia, we called it BLACKWATER in the West.
what you mean
Yea, so why doesn’t black water work for Russia or nato, I mean Ukraine
The US has no business over there.
Apparently we did and that's why the Puppet Masters sent us there.
the US has business all over the world actually
@@blank4227 and that's why they lost in the middle east😂
@@NkosanaMakhubele you're on my internet speaking my language little brother
@@blank4227mate what are you on about
My buddy died as a result of the aftermath of this. He was one of the many to invade Falluja. He was the SAW gunner and was repressing fire to allow his mates to escape. They all made it out save for him. RIP PFC Rogelio Ramirez. Semper Fi.
Thank you for your service sir.
@@SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH No! I did not serve. My buddy served. I simply respect him and honor his memory as a US Marine. But I would never accept a thank you for something I did not do, especially something like what my friend died doing. Thank my friend for his service. PFC Rogelio Ramirez.
@@mermiez1 I hope your friend is resting in heaven, again i am very sorry sir for the confusion and i thank your friend for serving.
ok but still thanks for your service @@mermiez1
LOL your buddy was a dumbass
I like how mercenaries have become "contractors "
Never start a war with the people who have nothing to lose.
Nah. More like “never adhere to civility and hand-tying rules when at war with people who intentionally cast off both.” We coulda easily swept that place but the bleeding hearts sitting on their couches at home couldnt stand to hear about us troops doing what NEEDED to be done.
@@Swiat34 sad thing was the soldiers were made puppets of the US government. It was never their war in the first place.
@@Swiat34 You picked a weak enemy. Try China or Russia and see what happens when nukes start going off.
@@Swiat34 Also, America employed shock and awe tactics time and again to put fear into people's hearts.
Do Abu Gharib, Guantanamo Bay and Bagram prisons ring any bells?
It is just American active or ex-millitary personnel who deceive themselves by claiming they only lost in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam because of political reasons.
You can see the footage of American soldiers celebrating in Vietnam after they heard on radio that Vietnam war was finally over.
USA literally begged Taliban to give them a safe way out so Afghanistan war could be over. So brave. So courageous. Even whilst having all the technology in the world at their disposal.
I'd day give quarter of tech America has to those Muslim countries and we will see who is brave and couragous.
@@Swiat34 SEAL Team 6 didn’t care. They showed the insurgents no mercy.
Thank you so much for this! I had always wondered how Mike and Scott were killed. I knew Wes and Jerry were in one vehicle due to the video footage. I am confident now that 3 of the men were killed very quickly with only Wes dying after trying to drive away.
they were killed because they invaded someone else's country
How intelligent…they were killed because they “invaded someone else’s country”…..by foreign fighters who….invaded that country too….
Nice try though.
USA, the cancer of this world caused 90% of the wars of aggression after 1945, plundered and murdered millions of innocent people,vietnam ,panama ,cuba,iraq,kuweit ,ukraine ,yugoslavia etc want more?
@@JohnHolmes-om8cg good, i hope you could say the same about ukraine maidan today tho.
@@BenRover2961ukraine didn't have a world leader trying to exterminate the Russians, like how it was with the Iraqis and Kurds, also zelinkskis sons aren't going around ukraine raping newly wed women... like sadams sons were
It also highlights why a soldier gets paid $20,000 a year while a Blackwater privateer gets paid approximately 200,000
200,000 will mean nothing if you’re dead
@@f3mcell373 Yes. They are now known as Academi.