I’m not at Bragg anymore I’ve been outta the Army since 2017 so I can’t say what or what not is going on I can only speculate from what I’ve heard or seen myself. But from what I’ve “heard” is that a large group of Group members(no pun intended) had their hands in the illegal distribution of narcotics and narcotic accessories among other illegal activities. From one story I heard that the guy who killed the friend at the house was trying to be done with the situation and the other guy tried to confront him. And then I heard the opposite. But then I heard that the two that were killed in the truck messed something up and that was a retaliation from other Group members because they messed something up big time and didn’t want it getting back to anyone so they had to tie up loose ends in a sense. But like I said this is all he say she say that I’ve heard from some friends of mine who’re still at Bragg. I have a friend who’s in 7th Group in Eglin Airforce base in Florida and I’ve known him since I was in the 82nd way back in 2011 because we were in the same unit together. But I haven’t asked him if he had heard anything because I don’t talk to him very often anymore because he’s always and I mean always busy with everything that he’s got going on. And I don’t want to jump in like I’m CID or something asking him all these random ass questions lol. Oh, but if you don’t know CID is pretty much like the Army Special Detectives or something like that lol. I don’t even ask him that much about his actual missions because that’s OpSec and I don’t want to jeopardize want he’s got going on. But I definitely want to ask him badly, him also being in group he’s had to heard something about it at least lol.
@@House.Of.Pain. well look at a few months ago on bragg they got caught for drug dealings and other illegal crap. look at the 2 seals who killed a green beret a few years ago oved drugs. shit do you remember in 2015 CAB had the chick that was forced into prostitution
@@nomadronin707 Yeah ? He didn't account for how many companies profit off of it today. Then take the fact that many lawmakers have huge incentives to wage war in order to boost margins
@@samuelmmmk181 exactlt. war is always for profit. It's either to take someone's land/shit, or defend your land and shit. Hitler killed jews for "other reasons" but lest not forget they took all their valuables, businesses, art ect. Capitalism seems great until you realize everything about it promotes greed, and waste. Well ruin nature if we can save a few bucks. The rich only have wealth because other have to go without. There's enough for everyone to live comfortable but only because their is rich people is their poor people. If there was a reasonable limit to the amount of shit you could accumulate we wouldn't have thus problem. Why do some make MILLIONS per month, while disable people get $1200 to survive? A damn carton of eggs costs $7 now. What about housing? $800. Don't forget insulin can cost hundred per week. Yet we expect people to survive off $10 hour... shit toys at the dollar tree are $5-$20 now. It's fuckng absurd how fast inflation out paces wages.... but not for CEOs!!! They double their wages every 10 years!!!!
@@samuelmmmk181 well of course he didn't, America didn't develop it's habit of invading other countries for oil under the guize of "liberating" them while companies like Haliburton made a small fortune in the process until long after he passed.
"Three hits from .45 caliber bullet at close range by a man trained to use guns makes me believe these were kill shots." Wow, the narrator is a genius.
The narrator isn't claiming to conclude this himself, like he is some sort of "genius" as you say. He is simply stating the circumstances around the gunshots, to emphasise the fact it was very likely a premeditated shooting. The fact that your comment has 200+ likes (in agreement) shows that the tone in the narrators' statement is easily missed. To me it sounds clear that he is deliberately stating the obvious, for emphasis.
My Dad was a cop and his partner was killed by another cop for reporting burglary incidents that the other cop was in on. It was an insurance scam, and the cops would do the burglary, fence the goods, then investigate it, and get a pay out by the insurance adjuster. They killed Dave Tafoya off duty. Shot him down into the street and the bullets ricocheted back up into his chest cavity. Rest in Power, Dave Tafoya. Your legacy is one of integrity beyond measure.
Delta guy murders a Green Beret on Fort Bragg and gets away with it. Two years later, that Delta guy is found murdered on Fort Bragg. Sounds like some in-house justice.
Sounds like a shit situation honestly. We need more psychological and physical help for veterans. This should have never happened. But I'm drunk and could be misconstrueding things
Except for the Dumas killing…if this is simply a tit for tat killing to avenge Leshikar then the killing of Dumas makes zero sense. Drugs are intimately involved here.
@@33moneyballIt could be a case of wrong place wrong time. Maybe chief was collateral damage. As they probably wouldn’t risk leaving an eye witness alive.
There’s been many people who have covered the death of my brother Mark Daniel Leshikar. I can appreciate the sounding of a trumpet you are doing. The biggest little hero to this day is my niece who saw her father die in front of her. We are still fighting for justice to be executed to this day. Gone but NEVER forgotten MDL.
Leshikar knew about Lavigne's dirty narcotics crimes and, apparently, the physical confrontation started with Leshikar calling out Lavigne for his dirty crimes. Lavigne killed his best friend to keep him quiet and then invented a story of self-defense that made no sense. Whether Lavigne was killed together with Dumas for his drug crimes by pals or competitors, or by fellow soldiers outraged at his assasination of a close and good fellow soldier, who was damaged but had integrity, he got the justice he deserved.
That’s my theory too. I worked intel when I was in Afghanistan and we heard humint sources claim they knew about drug smuggling within the US military. We turned that info over to CID but I heard the same claims throughout my time there. If you have the system greased, it would be easy to get opium out and back to the US. It would have been pure profit as they could just take a few kilos from the tons they confiscated and destroyed. No one would ever know or could ever trace them. Unfortunately, the old adage comes into play, two men can keep a secret as long as one is dead.
He was obviously wearing underwear due to the fact they picked him up were he slept. So they new were he slept but the cops could never find out so this screams of house cleaning by team mate's or DOD. And they always talk well about those they just murdered in order to look innocent which if it was house cleaning for integrity driven reasons they are innocent in my opinion.
I’m a detective and a veteran. The lack of a toxicology exam in a homicide investigation is telling. Then you have 2 other homicides directly correlating to the initial victim? This one stinks. I’ve worked with army CID on a few cases and they are good guys. Problem is they still work for the army. And the army clearly doesn’t want to air their dirty laundry with this case.
@@bigslime2235 a lot of prior service go to police departments and federal agencies after their service. Especially since departments usually give veterans preference. It’s not that unbelievable.
@@Anonymous18817a woman wouldn’t be able to join a tier 1 team. I’m not a misogynist but it’s the hard truth. No woman can pass through the training. Most men don’t even get in. The only way a woman can get in is by lowering the standards which puts soldiers at risk and in danger. Delta is no place for a woman.
They keep those records VERY close to the chest. They disappear from every system the regular Army uses so it doesn’t surprise me that they couldn’t find anything on Lavigne.
@@bloodyspartan300hilarious. Absolutely gut splitting humor from bloodyspartan. You ever think about doing stand up? I mean that’s some real funny stuff. You’re the funny man.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Man that shit is crazy. I remember hearing about this but didn't know the whole back story. That is horrible for the little 5 year old girls for sure. But for the Delta operator to be able to still operate is mind boggling. He should of gone to jail that day. It's clear he killed his friend. Then he gets killed?! There some shady shit going on at Fort Bragg for sure.
Hey look into a journalist named Seth harp. He has done a lot of in depth work on this and a bunch of other wrong doings here. I live in Fayetteville btw.
Scumbag pos! Got exactly what he needed! I only wish they would have worked on those rectums for a while first! Time is very limited when your on post,...I guess.
Apparently 3rd Group was heavily involved in drug trafficking. Maybe they lured him in for a deal knowing he was a user and did him in retaliation for killing one of their own and "facing no consequences"
It's definitely possible but the fact Dumas was found with him (a guy who had absolutely nothing to do with the Green Beret dea-th from 2 years prior) makes it more likely this was not revenge/retaliation but more an issue with their narcotics business and people being owed money and refusing to pay despite attempts on collection. Either way, Lavigne got a hefty dose of karma.
This probably goes a lot higher up in terms of conspiracy. For a special forces guy to be to be involved in stuff like that and then just go on another deployment is craaaaazy
A lot of operators are insane because you kind of have to be. I heard about a couple GBs got busted for drinking and driving their command takes care of the problem.
@@RoCK3rAD this. A person has an equal chance to hit the Olympic trials as they do completing the SF pipeline. We're talking 1% of all abled bodies. Then ontop of that the psychology requirements. Compartmentalize the nastiness of the nastiness our government does in secret and having to be ok with it because the "mission comes first" do or die mindset for each mission regardless of innocents on the field.
@@Seasniffer1969 Yup I’ve seen a lot my fair share of SF and I want to say D boys (unconfirmed) all completely normal likable squared away dudes but I’m not in their circle so I wouldn’t get to know the man behind the uniform
@@RoCK3rAD right, Id wager if they can compartmentalize alot of the stuff they do/did/will do, and make a career out of it, they're psychopaths. Tier 1- all face shooters with the felonious criminal mindset taught to them, they're our dirty secret psychotics that keep America's foreign policy relevant.
Holy hell! A Delta Force operator goes rogue to the point of drug dealing and murder? Probably extremely lucky that he only murdered one person. Not a surprise ending. Whoever got the drop on one of the “best of the best” well… that says it all. Just wow!
@@oof9952 exactly people be thinkin these guys are of the highest ethics and shit but they just the guys that are just crazy enough to get through the training, they like the thrill and the cool shit they do, how many “operators” do u hear about that are alcoholics and cheaters etc.
We train people to he highly effective killers that can act on those instincts without thinking, put them in highly traumatic situations, then proceed to give them none of the mental health support they need after and expect them to live happy lives. I feel awful for these broken people, i hope they find the healing they deserve and are given the support they need.
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 You'd never make Delta, just being real with you. They pick from the best of the best men already serving as elite operators, it's not something you go to the recruiter and pick as a job. Their members are chosen from established Rangers, Green Berets, and other SOF members across the military. So they are basically the select few of the select few.
The first victim probably herd of an investigation and he admitted or tried to bring him in on it. The other two were probably considered loose links to the rest of the team members involved.
Bragg is no joke, I hated every time I had to be there. My unit was technically a special operations force, so we trained with certain Tier 2 groups. Even met a few Tier 1 guys. During training, everyone was cool. I learned a lot of small unit tactics and much more. But outside of training or official duties, everyone in my unit stayed away from those guys. We weren’t a direct action force, so we didn’t get much respect from those guys. We were the nerds from Psychological Operations to them.
Sometimes you need brute force and other times you need the nerds to do certain parts of the job everyone of you guys are important and work as spokes in the wheel can’t have one without the other! Thank you for your service! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
@@Anonymous18817 you cant just try out for delta as a civillian, gotta be special kinda special to even get looked at, and you have to have served tier 2 or tier 1 cant remember
Psychological is fictional but so are militaries. You being kept ad a slave whos forced to act like thats untrue just being tortured into appearing to? Those around you acting alongside you?
The kind of stuff special operators must get away with all the time is insane. The government aren’t gonna indict their own hitmen. Plus you know their training is expensive 💰
@Anonymous18817 Yes. You must do 100 push-ups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and a 10k run. This is known as the Saitama and will make you a Green Delta Beret SEAL in the Air Force.
@@Anonymous18817 You will never. The most incredible female specimen to have ever lived will be worse than the shittiest Delta Force member. It's impossible for women to compete.
Look at Chris Kyle killed by a F.U. Marine he was trying to help. A young soldier in NY was killed by a couple of gang bangers and the DA gave them a sweet plea deal.
Agreed. It's like those guys who live through multiple combat deployments and come home and get killed in some car wreck leaving or going to base. Crazy how life works sometimes.
@@richieb3356 right and it’s so sad to hear or see these veterans deserve everything especially after risking their life’s for our freedoms I see homeless vets sometimes and it makes me hate on the government that they don’t help em and even if they do it’s suck little help all vets showed be able to get housing and free healthcare for life after their service in my opinion i know most get a check monthly but I’m sure it’s not enough
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Most of them are psychopaths. Most dont do the job for their country. Most do it because they like hunting other humans and that is a job that allows you to kill people and be called a hero instead of a serial killer.
@@Wh1stle_03 wasn’t it a recon guy and a seal that killed the SF guy because he caught them stealing operation funds? America is dysfunctional; the military is a reflection of America. Sadly
When I was active a good friend of mine just got back from Afghanistan and we went out with another friend of his who was a Navy Corpsman. The Corpsman recently returned from California after a buddy of his got his SEAL pin. The Corpsman said when they went out to LA, the SEAL was railing lines of coke like a vacuum cleaner. My Corpsman buddy was like "Dude, are you insane? You just got your trident!" And the SEAL said bluntly, "Uncle Sam just spent [Enter figure here] Million dollars on me, they don't give a fuck,". Drug use is a very common thing in the military depending on your branch and depending on your MOS/Rate. Grunts, Rangers, SEALs, etc., will do coke, etc., and if get popped for it, it will get swept under the rug and MAYBE they'll get NJPd. If a Sailor, Airmen, Coastie, got popped, they'd immediately processed for discharge. The Military is so fucked. I tell kids not to join and find something else. The military is a bureaucratic cesspool of meat riding, political yes-men in the Officer corps and everything else is just a fucking shit show.
This is truth! I served and seen it all. Some normal military members would pop and stay in also, especially the ones with father's serving that has high rank. On deployments you don't get drugged tested. A lot of service members do drugs while on deployment. Especially drug operations. I've done drug operations, and I've seen the drug use and drug theft that we took from other nations
Ive heard a lot of crazy stuff happens in the fort Bragg area. Theres definitely been a few incidents of sf guys breaking the law and drug using/dealing too.
It’s not just fort Bragg man, I served 2 years in Italy at aviano air base, I knew a SF guy that was smuggling drugs in from Slovenia to sell to the Airman on base, and during my time in tech school at Sheppard AFB in Texas there was multiple drug busts in my barracks alone, acid and cocaine seem to be the drugs of choice for the military.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
It could be that Leshikar could’ve found out that his “buddy” was beyond just the guy he knew as being able to hook him up with strong, non-prescribed meds. Maybe this led to the fight when it was discovered his long-time friend was a lowlife drug dealer. Lavigne panicked that Leshikar might turn him in, so he went in phoned the Warrant Officer that was later found dead with him. Perhaps Leshikar was trying to get his daughter from being used as a pawn by Lavigne, so that he wouldn’t get turned in by Leshikar. The idea of getting turned in and losing everything was too much and he killed Leshikar so that he wouldn’t talk to police or Army CID. The trip down to Florida could have been a ruse by Lavigne to pick up dope and bring back to NC. Maybe finding out that Lavigne could’ve jeopardize him and the children made Leshikar confront him. Who wouldn’t be mad? We’ll never know unless you can trace the call to whoever he called during the time of the incident. I really suspect that it would be the Warrant Officer. Lavigne seems to have gotten what he deserved: the death of a drug dealer and not a hero.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817I'm a 22 year old man who was at one point USMC infantry. You need to see if you can even hack it in infantry, because plenty of men (let alone women) can't even pass basic training. Or infantry training. If you survive that, recon/green beret/ranger training is likely to be even more brutal and wipes out almost all who attempt it. If you somehow manage that, you'd beat have an immaculate record to have a shot at being recruited into Delta. That's right, you get CHOSEN. You don't choose to join.
Something is going on at Fort Bragg… Between 2020 and 2021 80 service members stationed there died “suddenly” or went “missing”. In 2020 a soldier that was stationed there was beheaded and his head washed up on a sea shore in NC.
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 For your own good, abandon this stupidity. Unless you wish to be a "housewife" to your unit and merry-go-rounded for every day of your service between them.
@@Anonymous18817The OTC for Delta Force, as well as selections, both require candidates to be male due to simply superior biology. Males are stronger, faster, more massive, and tend to be more mentally resistant, since they were programmed to hunt and maintain their families from the very start. There have been speculations women were working at Delta Force. But provided that only recently did the first ever woman pass the US sniper course, let alone get into formations like the 1st SFG or 75RR, not even mentioning Delta.
@@Anonymous18817 I dont think women are allowed to join Delta or Devgru at this point of time. Dont know if there are any support roles where you can work within the unit. But you are correct that other socom units allow women to try out. Not going to say you cant do it but there are multiple health risks included in training not just for women but for men too but from medical standpoint the risks are far greater for women than men. Although I hope all the best for you if you decide to try out selection for any sof units.
@@Anonymous18817 Force recon, green berets, rangers and SWCC are significantly different from CAG. It is an ENTIRELY different ball game, the psychological and physical requirements are through the roof. Women are legally allowed, yes, but the requirements are nearly biologically impossible for women. I'm all for you being the first, but for your sake, please, set the bar lower.
The fact that the cops tried so hard to cover it up when it was obvious that screw driver story was complete B.S shows you this goes much deeper then anyone can think of….
makes you wonder why like FBI or something didn't get involved. I'm an ex active duty Army MP. This has stink all over it obviously. There was clearly some deal(s) being made/had behind closed doors and off the record for sure. I almost couldn't even imagine this in some twisted writer's head to conceive of. I imagine the local police felt completed overpowered and compelled and forced to do whatever the military high command in that area demanded of them. I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, and yes we had SF and Ranger compounds there too, but nothing near like what Ft. Bragg is. The only time I remember interacting with off post law enforcement was some type of civilian protest anti-war BS outside one of our main entry gates.
@john doe you're a dumbass. At the end of the day, they're all humans. USASOC had a sniper completion two weeks ago, and 75th Rangers got 2nd place, while Delta Force got 8th place and SEALs got 15th place. Well, SEALs suck but I'm just saying. A bullet is a bullet. Delta isn't superman idiot.
What a F up story. The stress and PTSD takes a real toll on these men and those who don't get the help they need, can end up in a very bad place. I know a bunch of active and ret gents from SOF, 99% of them doing well. It only takes terrible events like this to expose the stress/PTSD as potentially deadly.
Former Army here. You would be astonished at how corrupt and just who commits the crimes on base that go entirely unpunished. A reason why I am not Army anymore. It's pervasive in all branches
Tramadol is a fairly light painkiller, let's not act like it's oxycontin or something. Lots of athletes and operators take it for various pain management. It's also good for managing headaches and migraines, and Leshikar had a TBI so that makes a lot of sense. Sounds like Lavigne got paranoid (and was probably under the influence himself) and murdered Leshikar, then the GB brotherhood got some payback on a very bad apple.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
On the Range, truth will out. I was an Army Brat, 57-76. We were Catholic. When asked if I was molested by Army priests, my response was, " Do you really think the priest would make it in from any training?"
BS that someone can get away with murder that easily and only spent two hours in jail. I feel sorry for the two little girls and what they had to witness.
Your correct however the military has spent multi millions on his training alone and wasnt going to throw him and his skill sets away. As compared to a regular infantry soldier.
@@brianfitch5469 training should not matter. I’m sure if it was a doctor lawyer fighter pilot they spent just as much money. Nobody no matter what their profession is above murder bottom line.
@@RRJ00777 it does matter for the gov, the amount they spent.. they had to let the guy go. Where as if he was locked up, they would've lost 2 of their best sf's
@@GodsVisuals I don’t agree with that at all. If that was true, then every operator could just go kill someone and it would be OK. you’re saying because you’re an SF or Delta operator you can get away with murder? No one doesn’t matter who you are. No one is above murder.
Truly an intriguing short video. I honestly believe he was taken out by the other Soldiers. Those who were close and served with the soldier he first shot. An eye for an eye sort of thing. It's a Shame the first killing happened in the house with both their 5 yr old daughters. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@@lauralesh7084 so your Marks Wife ? I'm so sorry for your loss. The video said only the two girls. One 5 one 3 were witness to this horrible incident. Truly my heart goes out to all involved. Mark being shot by his best friend was shocking. Thoughts and prayers to all. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Note: Tramadol is not only an opioid but it's also an SSRI (an antidepressant). Most doctors either don't know or fail to tell people this and it can have horrible consequences. It's not good to be taking a drug that is really two very different drugs.
I received it from having torn patella and the side effects are crazy still have fast random pace caffeine triggers sweaty rushes and on top of that suffer from migraines. For taking them 1 year straight without being told what the side effects were.
This has "The Terminal List" vibe. An Amazon Prime series in which Chris Pratt perfectly pulled off the hardcore macho military guy, very different from his goofy Star-Lord character.
I would bet my rank as a Sergeant, an E-5 with 3yrs time In grade, that Leshiker (i prolly fucked up the spelling of his name) either found out Lavigne was moving product or Lavigne wanted Leshiker to make a pick up or drop off if or when he had another tour coming up in a certain middle eastern country that survives off of the heroine drug trade. So Leshiker either turned him down or was prepared to let their Command know about Lavigne’s 2nd job. So Lavigne acted without thinking it through. Also, I would say Lavigne was NOT an actual Delta force Operator or part of Delta Operations. I figure Lavigne was Delta Intelligence (S2 or Intel) or another section or department that supported the Operations section. Had they both been in Ops and were teammates or at the least had come to rely on each other when shit goes kinetic. There would have been a bond between them or a trust that supersedes almost everything life could have thrown at them. Lavigne would have never killed him, or even worry that Leshiker would have turned him in to Command for his questionable activities. Had they been teammates Leshiker might have been pissed beyond belief and absolutely despised Lavigne’s actions, but no matter what IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED IN HOUSE! The situation around Lavigne’s death says it was handled “IN HOUSE”! Myself, as a former US Marine 0341 (Mortarman/Infantry) just a lowly Grunt compared to Tier One Operators, fully understand the bond and trust built among your brothers during training and partying together. Later during combat operations that bond is forged into something near unbreakable! Not a one of the Marines in my Squad and gun team and our platoon even, NOT A SINGLE MARINE ive fought beside would turn in their brother or brothers to an outsider or anyone that IS NOT part of US, WE, OUR LITTLE GROUP OF ASSHOLES. We would deal out punishments to whom and when if needed. If a Marine (hypothetically) had raped a little girl and we all knew about. We would have held a get together with just our NCOs. We would have our own investigation. If proven without doubt that Pvt Schmukatelli committed said rape, while on patrol or on mission we would have placed him in a position that seriously decreased his life expectancy! One of us would have informed our Command of his transgressions we had discovered in the packing up of his belongings to return to his family after he was killed by enemy fire on his last mission. My platoon never had any degenerates that bad and we all were fairly decent people. However, some of us did shit that would have cost them rank, or worse, but we handled it in house. CNN and FOX news didnt get to blast anyones fuck ups all over the world and making us all look like criminals or worse. We handled our issues and no one else needed to know.
The thing is, they weren’t teammates. They became friends because they lived in the same apartments years before this. Also, their daughters were good friends.
They always say if you get caught doing illegal activity, you're on ur own and they won't back you up saying they gave you permission, the government that is
Well...when you get human beings, together, in a group... Government, Catholic Church, Home Owners Association, the Mafia-- there are bad apples everywhere. It's human nature.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@WhiteBoyTariq idk maybe some of the situations like the one I was in where my gear got stolen out of my locked locker cause I didn't know the lock I was using was letting the handle still be opened. My ncos tried charging me for my stolen gear after they put up the notice about my lock with a picture of my lock saying don't use these. Thank goodness someone higher up said no you aren't charging them and then gave me a flippl.
@@raphmaster23 well to be fair, if you aren’t a top tier operator why would they care? Realistically. These guys are hard to find and cost a lot to train. Kind of like how you can have a star player on a team who does drugs, beats their spouse, etc but it’s the star player. You lose him, you lose money.
@@liveandlearn901 never said I was a tier 1 operator i was just an 88m. The original comment was talking about the the fact that some chains of command like screwing over their soldiers and then wonder why we don't reenlist 🤷♀️
@@raphmaster23 they don't give af if we don't reenlist, someone will always come along and replace us. I replaced a guy that went UA (AWOL), he came back a year later all beat up and stabbed because he got into a bar fight, that's how he got caught... He went to the hospital and his name popped up, got processed out after. Anyways, I trained my replacements. They don't give af. The propaganda machine is strong enough that there will always be more.
makes you wonder why like FBI or something didn't get involved. I'm an ex active duty Army MP. This has stink all over it obviously. There was clearly some deal(s) being made/had behind closed doors and off the record for sure. I almost couldn't even imagine this in some twisted writer's head to conceive of. I imagine the local police felt completed overpowered and compelled and forced to do whatever the military high command in that area demanded of them. I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, and yes we had SF and Ranger compounds there too, but nothing near like what Ft. Bragg is. The only time I remember interacting with off post law enforcement was some type of civilian protest anti-war BS outside one of our main entry gates. I can only IMAGINE the kind of relationship between local civilian off post law enforcement in an area not only surrounded by so much Army, let alone super high high profile Delta TS clearance type stuff. Jeeezzzzus. I ask out loud (but I know why already) why like a more thorough, higher level FBI-type investigation didn't take place. That's all I'll say.
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@AjninHaru So much goes on behind the scenes. People generally think that because they are not informed, that the situation is always out of control. But what most people fail to understand, is that they do not have a need to know everything.
@@ezra8435 facts.. and the general public doesn’t have a clue wtf is going on.. nor will they ever.. they might get little crumbs here and there but never know 99.99% of it.. however there’s been a lot of shady shit like this goin down in the specops community last few years.. for example the green beret who was killed by a couple SEALs because the GB found out they were drug trafficking and was gunna expose them.. sounds like this might’ve been a similar situation however the green beret’s homies got revenge.. the warrant officer who was killed was probably involved in the drug trafficking operation hence why he was killed too.. probably set em up with a fake sale and did em in right there.. they stripped the delta guy down to his underwear too so I’d imagine they might’ve tortured him before hand.. friend of mine from high school’s dad is an OG SEAL of like 20 years and she’s currently married to a SEAL whose in and one of my best friend’s dad is a really high ranking SEAL.. his dad was one of the commanders at either devgru or green team can’t remember which.. but yea he’s been in like 25+ years.. they’ve told me some shit..
@@johnconner4695 SPECOPs like every other institution in America is an absolute dumpster fire. Certainly there are lots of good individuals but the institution as a whole has been completely corrupted. There used to be a thing called silent professionalism. I remember a time when you didn’t know people that worked for SPECOPs units and Intel Agencies until well after their death. The notoriety, fame and constant divulging of tactics and equipment is only tolerable because we don’t really have any enemies that are peers.
Pure speculation on my end, but the fact Levine was killed later makes me believe these two cases are connected. I’ve heard many stories about former SF guys getting involved in less-than-legal activities after their service (confirmed that Navy seals trained the Zetas Cartel back in the day, there are also lots of rumors about former SF guys working as hitmen and advisors for certain cartels down south, etc). Smells like Levine was doing something illegal and Leshikar was getting in the way of that… the fact that Levine turned up dead later makes me think that whoever killed him was probably tying up some loose ends, maybe Levine brought too much heat onto whatever he was involved with or whatever. And it might be a reach, but I strongly suspect that the only type of person who would have the balls and the means to kill an SF operative would be another SF operative. Regardless, this case is really strange. The fact that one of the world’s most elite killers can just turn up dead like this after murdering his best friend is concerning to say the least. I hope one day the public can learn what really happened during all this.
The Zetas were trained when they were Active Duty Military. It wasn't Operators going rogue and training them...they were supposedly on the "right side" (which in Mexican Government does not exist) and were Cartel affiliated LATER. Years later.. They used that training when they abandoned their posts and became Narcos. Get it right or don't speak it.
Hope y'all have that same energy with these morons with the hammer and sickle flag... extremists from any side have no place in the military. It's why the military is trash
I knew William. Not long at all. But he was always a weird person. The type that didn’t have to say a word and you knew immediately he was someone not to trust. This story is not fully explained either.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
He was always carrying his knife or bow and arrow or pistol. Always something. Jim and mark use to get high a lot. drinking at the gym / hang out bar warehouse with other JSOC dudes. mark was was troubled mental soul who i believe what happens to CAGs who break after so much. He was into drug manufacturing. Prostitution. Shootings. Harboring felons and fugitives. Etc etc.
@@Anonymous18817well, first of all, you won't make it. And just don't. Women DO NOT belong in military or law enforcement. Because of women standards have dropped and the army has been going down hill very fast. Stay the fuck out of my army, please.
If someone killed Lavigne for revenge and all Delta was against him, who killed Timothy? And why Lavigne's body was covered by a insu poncho, like if someone was trying to keep him alive? Two factions shot eachother when Lavigne died. Are they connected to Leshikar's murder? I guess we'll only know when God tells us, after our deaths.
They might have only intended for Lavigne initially but Dumas started defending himself so they had to kill him too. As to why he was covered with a liner and mostly naked? He was obviously stripped of his clothing by whoever killed him, for what reason is unclear.
They say when a person kills someone they love or care about they will show it by covering or showing the body respect. Sounds like whomever did the deed had no choice but still felt remorse.
A lot of people didn't pick up on this and are claiming negligence in terms of how the investigation was handled. He was intentionally cleared because they had thier own plans for justice....
I'm a former Army CID Special Agent who was stationed at Fort Bragg for three years and I can tell you absolutely nothing happens in the Special Operations compound without their command's approval. It was extremely frustrating to try to conduct thorough investigations when they involved operators. We had to notify their chain of command in advance and get their approval before we could even contact the SOF Soldier. And if their command didn't want CID poking around their unit...well....case closed.
I wanna say it sounds like revenge by other unit members for what happened, but then that doesn't make sense because the other guy, Dumas(?) was killed too. And it started before that - with the shoddy police investigation, so...maybe something shady was going on, and not JUST a revenge killing by the unit members. Who knows
Soooo like most special forces dudeds lol have to imagine its even worse on Delta Force. You dont make it there for being a warm and fuzzy type who goes with the flow.
A word of advice for you internet detectives out there. I wouldnt look too hard into this one or even start searching to try to figure something out. Its a recommendation. You can do what you like but get too close and you might not be able to just say you saw nothing.
lol near a training area at ft Bragg and no surveillance cameras picked up the perpetrators… unreal. I worked on much smaller bases and the SOC’s have like 30+ screens with damn near 1000 cameras with every single angle known to man, and ft Bragg home of the most elite special forces can’t figure out who is where.
So wait a Delta operator showed up to a drug deal in his boxers?? What? Sounds more like he got snatched out of bed in the middle of the night by people with bad intentions.
My heart and prayers goes out to those 2 little girls that was there!the stuff iv been through places iv been made me a very hardened man but knowing what they went through hurts my heart man!
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona. What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them? If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course? I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
A high ranking socom dude getting away with multiple felonies and the dod swept it under the rug enabling the situation to have a domino effect? What else is new.
going rogue means: 'behaving in an erratic or dangerous fashion by disregarding the rules.' I think killing a fellow soldier and trafficking drugs is most likely not what a operator should do lol
Most likely a hit by other members of delta force. With his kind of training, he'd see an amateur coming a mile away. It had to be see he wouldn't have his guard up in front of, someone he trusted therefore it was a hit within the unit
It doesn't take a delta guy to kill one. They are phenomenal, but there are no shortage of trained and dedicated people who can get the drop on you. All it takes is planning and dedication.
@@abefrohammer3105 getting the drop on 2 highly trained people, one of them being the best there is to offer from the army isn't something a tacticool sorta guy could do. It would make more sense for the hit to be done within the unit to be as clean as possible, especially when the hit took place in a military base. That's what I think
@@ubt3606 that is the most likely outcome, however, there's a wide gulf between tacticool and delta. Delta guys are the best, but they also get killed by dudes in flip flops with an AK. His list of enemies was probably pretty big considering who he killed, what he was involved with, and who he worked for. There are shooters up and down that chain who could have made it happen.
I had a leader who was a sniper or Bravo support fire element for over 20 years in sfod-d he died oef3 bronze star for pulling guys out of a burning Blackhawk rip sgm Albert
That was an inside hit job... Retaliation for him killing one of their own. That's a tight knit group of men, someone took vengeance
I’m not at Bragg anymore I’ve been outta the Army since 2017 so I can’t say what or what not is going on I can only speculate from what I’ve heard or seen myself. But from what I’ve “heard” is that a large group of Group members(no pun intended) had their hands in the illegal distribution of narcotics and narcotic accessories among other illegal activities. From one story I heard that the guy who killed the friend at the house was trying to be done with the situation and the other guy tried to confront him. And then I heard the opposite. But then I heard that the two that were killed in the truck messed something up and that was a retaliation from other Group members because they messed something up big time and didn’t want it getting back to anyone so they had to tie up loose ends in a sense. But like I said this is all he say she say that I’ve heard from some friends of mine who’re still at Bragg. I have a friend who’s in 7th Group in Eglin Airforce base in Florida and I’ve known him since I was in the 82nd way back in 2011 because we were in the same unit together. But I haven’t asked him if he had heard anything because I don’t talk to him very often anymore because he’s always and I mean always busy with everything that he’s got going on. And I don’t want to jump in like I’m CID or something asking him all these random ass questions lol. Oh, but if you don’t know CID is pretty much like the Army Special Detectives or something like that lol. I don’t even ask him that much about his actual missions because that’s OpSec and I don’t want to jeopardize want he’s got going on. But I definitely want to ask him badly, him also being in group he’s had to heard something about it at least lol.
@@House.Of.Pain. well look at a few months ago on bragg they got caught for drug dealings and other illegal crap. look at the 2 seals who killed a green beret a few years ago oved drugs. shit do you remember in 2015 CAB had the chick that was forced into prostitution
@@House.Of.Pain. wow
@@House.Of.Pain. how accurate are ur sources in the Group?
Exactly
We all know you don’t kill a brother and expect no repercussions from the other brothers. Justice has been served!
@@kevinsedwards"It is good that war is so terrible, else we would fall in love with it." -Robert E. Lee.
@@nomadronin707 Yeah ? He didn't account for how many companies profit off of it today. Then take the fact that many lawmakers have huge incentives to wage war in order to boost margins
@@samuelmmmk181 exactlt. war is always for profit. It's either to take someone's land/shit, or defend your land and shit. Hitler killed jews for "other reasons" but lest not forget they took all their valuables, businesses, art ect. Capitalism seems great until you realize everything about it promotes greed, and waste. Well ruin nature if we can save a few bucks. The rich only have wealth because other have to go without. There's enough for everyone to live comfortable but only because their is rich people is their poor people. If there was a reasonable limit to the amount of shit you could accumulate we wouldn't have thus problem. Why do some make MILLIONS per month, while disable people get $1200 to survive? A damn carton of eggs costs $7 now. What about housing? $800. Don't forget insulin can cost hundred per week. Yet we expect people to survive off $10 hour... shit toys at the dollar tree are $5-$20 now. It's fuckng absurd how fast inflation out paces wages.... but not for CEOs!!! They double their wages every 10 years!!!!
Ever heard of fragging? It’s weird how people get some romanticized view of things.
@@samuelmmmk181 well of course he didn't, America didn't develop it's habit of invading other countries for oil under the guize of "liberating" them while companies like Haliburton made a small fortune in the process until long after he passed.
"Three hits from .45 caliber bullet at close range by a man trained to use guns makes me believe these were kill shots." Wow, the narrator is a genius.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it was warning shots gone ashtray
@@lordrataxes5192ash tray?
@@antimitsuread it in a Tony Soprano voice/accent and it makes sense
The narrator isn't claiming to conclude this himself, like he is some sort of "genius" as you say. He is simply stating the circumstances around the gunshots, to emphasise the fact it was very likely a premeditated shooting.
The fact that your comment has 200+ likes (in agreement) shows that the tone in the narrators' statement is easily missed. To me it sounds clear that he is deliberately stating the obvious, for emphasis.
My Dad was a cop and his partner was killed by another cop for reporting burglary incidents that the other cop was in on. It was an insurance scam, and the cops would do the burglary, fence the goods, then investigate it, and get a pay out by the insurance adjuster. They killed Dave Tafoya off duty. Shot him down into the street and the bullets ricocheted back up into his chest cavity. Rest in Power, Dave Tafoya. Your legacy is one of integrity beyond measure.
Shit like that is why the LAPD tried suing the creator of "The Shield" because the show covered the fucked shit police do.
Damn
Dad was a great investigator, he really did the digging, he figured out who did it and put them away himself
Cops are corrupt. Suprise suprise
your dad was dirty too bro
Delta guy murders a Green Beret on Fort Bragg and gets away with it. Two years later, that Delta guy is found murdered on Fort Bragg. Sounds like some in-house justice.
Sounds like a shit situation honestly. We need more psychological and physical help for veterans. This should have never happened. But I'm drunk and could be misconstrueding things
What about the warrant officer?
Family bisnpllll
Except for the Dumas killing…if this is simply a tit for tat killing to avenge Leshikar then the killing of Dumas makes zero sense. Drugs are intimately involved here.
@@33moneyballIt could be a case of wrong place wrong time. Maybe chief was collateral damage. As they probably wouldn’t risk leaving an eye witness alive.
There’s been many people who have covered the death of my brother Mark Daniel Leshikar. I can appreciate the sounding of a trumpet you are doing. The biggest little hero to this day is my niece who saw her father die in front of her. We are still fighting for justice to be executed to this day. Gone but NEVER forgotten MDL.
He’s actually your brother?
@@AK-hw9ij yes he is.
Gone but never forgotten. We love you brother & will always fight for you. MDL
So you’re brother was a drug running drug addict?
@Zac Cotton he was my Dad and Chris Kyle was my uncle.
Leshikar knew about Lavigne's dirty narcotics crimes and, apparently, the physical confrontation started with Leshikar calling out Lavigne for his dirty crimes. Lavigne killed his best friend to keep him quiet and then invented a story of self-defense that made no sense. Whether Lavigne was killed together with Dumas for his drug crimes by pals or competitors, or by fellow soldiers outraged at his assasination of a close and good fellow soldier, who was damaged but had integrity, he got the justice he deserved.
That’s my theory too. I worked intel when I was in Afghanistan and we heard humint sources claim they knew about drug smuggling within the US military. We turned that info over to CID but I heard the same claims throughout my time there. If you have the system greased, it would be easy to get opium out and back to the US. It would have been pure profit as they could just take a few kilos from the tons they confiscated and destroyed. No one would ever know or could ever trace them. Unfortunately, the old adage comes into play, two men can keep a secret as long as one is dead.
He was obviously wearing underwear due to the fact they picked him up were he slept. So they new were he slept but the cops could never find out so this screams of house cleaning by team mate's or DOD. And they always talk well about those they just murdered in order to look innocent which if it was house cleaning for integrity driven reasons they are innocent in my opinion.
Or you know, more likely Leshikar was he's crime partner.
@@bellicostevet1388 obviously is a strong word, cpuld have easily made him.strip bid
Also the possibility that Dumas was avenging Leshikar and then shot himself after killing Lavigne.
I’m a detective and a veteran. The lack of a toxicology exam in a homicide investigation is telling. Then you have 2 other homicides directly correlating to the initial victim? This one stinks.
I’ve worked with army CID on a few cases and they are good guys. Problem is they still work for the army. And the army clearly doesn’t want to air their dirty laundry with this case.
Yeah I’m sure you are mr detective and veteran 😂😂😂
@@bigslime2235 yeah I can’t wait to retire. Too many @$$holes like you to deal with. 😮
@@bigslime2235 a lot of prior service go to police departments and federal agencies after their service. Especially since departments usually give veterans preference. It’s not that unbelievable.
@@Anonymous18817a woman wouldn’t be able to join a tier 1 team. I’m not a misogynist but it’s the hard truth. No woman can pass through the training. Most men don’t even get in. The only way a woman can get in is by lowering the standards which puts soldiers at risk and in danger. Delta is no place for a woman.
@@Anonymous18817you’re not going delta
They keep those records VERY close to the chest. They disappear from every system the regular Army uses so it doesn’t surprise me that they couldn’t find anything on Lavigne.
Probably one shelf over from where the Female ranger failures went to.
@@bloodyspartan300hilarious. Absolutely gut splitting humor from bloodyspartan. You ever think about doing stand up? I mean that’s some real funny stuff. You’re the funny man.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
yeah that'll never happen@@Anonymous18817
it was a funny joke. just like women wanting to be in combat. Hilarious actually.@@Stratosfear.
Man that shit is crazy. I remember hearing about this but didn't know the whole back story. That is horrible for the little 5 year old girls for sure. But for the Delta operator to be able to still operate is mind boggling. He should of gone to jail that day. It's clear he killed his friend. Then he gets killed?! There some shady shit going on at Fort Bragg for sure.
It was definitley a revenge killing
I would watch what we post about spec ops units 🤣🤣
That’s what happens when you kill a groups brother and nothing is done about it…
Hey look into a journalist named Seth harp. He has done a lot of in depth work on this and a bunch of other wrong doings here. I live in Fayetteville btw.
@@markphelt6395 Seth Harp actually got a lot of things wrong btw.
A lot of the people involved are very dangerous. Someone tried very hard to make this go away. The truth on this one will probably never be found.
Omg bro conspiracy!!!!!!!!
It won't be believed found sure.
Top comment right here.
They’re the type of guys you NEVER cross
Scumbag pos! Got exactly what he needed! I only wish they would have worked on those rectums for a while first! Time is very limited when your on post,...I guess.
Apparently 3rd Group was heavily involved in drug trafficking. Maybe they lured him in for a deal knowing he was a user and did him in retaliation for killing one of their own and "facing no consequences"
Trash got taken out
Sounds about right
It's definitely possible but the fact Dumas was found with him (a guy who had absolutely nothing to do with the Green Beret dea-th from 2 years prior) makes it more likely this was not revenge/retaliation but more an issue with their narcotics business and people being owed money and refusing to pay despite attempts on collection. Either way, Lavigne got a hefty dose of karma.
@@Andrew-eh8xs seems like the guy who was scary his and his buddy’s 5yo kid locked in an apartment together was the trash…
@@Suko44 nah dude the trash I spoke of was the retard that killed a man in front of his daughter and his victims.
This probably goes a lot higher up in terms of conspiracy. For a special forces guy to be to be involved in stuff like that and then just go on another deployment is craaaaazy
A lot of operators are insane because you kind of have to be. I heard about a couple GBs got busted for drinking and driving their command takes care of the problem.
@@RoCK3rAD this. A person has an equal chance to hit the Olympic trials as they do completing the SF pipeline. We're talking 1% of all abled bodies. Then ontop of that the psychology requirements. Compartmentalize the nastiness of the nastiness our government does in secret and having to be ok with it because the "mission comes first" do or die mindset for each mission regardless of innocents on the field.
@@Seasniffer1969 Yup I’ve seen a lot my fair share of SF and I want to say D boys (unconfirmed) all completely normal likable squared away dudes but I’m not in their circle so I wouldn’t get to know the man behind the uniform
@@RoCK3rAD right, Id wager if they can compartmentalize alot of the stuff they do/did/will do, and make a career out of it, they're psychopaths.
Tier 1- all face shooters with the felonious criminal mindset taught to them, they're our dirty secret psychotics that keep America's foreign policy relevant.
@@Seasniffer1969 like they say with valor Victorians
The ones who do the best probably do the most drugs
Or with Vietnam vets
The fact the cops said it was justified is amazing to me on how corrupt the shit really is
Delta boys took care of justice for their own boy. That's my own guess.
Oh most likely.
Not sure why the army warrant officer was killed though.
@@IAmNotARobotPinkySwearwitness, or part of their dealing operation
@@anticom6099 wow, what told you that genius
@@asonofliberty3662 basic deductive reasoning
Their records were scrubbed clean pointing to an inside link
Wonder if this has something to do with all the third group guys that were just busted for trafficking and narcotics distribution?
Magic 8 ball says. Yes.
bingo
Yeah, no
maybe, seems like a whole drug ring hidden inside the military
When did this happen? What exactly happened? Do inform
Holy hell! A Delta Force operator goes rogue to the point of drug dealing and murder? Probably extremely lucky that he only murdered one person. Not a surprise ending. Whoever got the drop on one of the “best of the best” well… that says it all. Just wow!
i guess the money was good
You're assuming the man's body count is one.
@@digitalsmoke4694 seriously
Well there are Operators training cartel in México so it must be the money
@@oof9952 exactly people be thinkin these guys are of the highest ethics and shit but they just the guys that are just crazy enough to get through the training, they like the thrill and the cool shit they do, how many “operators” do u hear about that are alcoholics and cheaters etc.
I was at Bragg during this time…. And I heard NOTHING about this! That’s wild. Eye for an eye
We train people to he highly effective killers that can act on those instincts without thinking, put them in highly traumatic situations, then proceed to give them none of the mental health support they need after and expect them to live happy lives.
I feel awful for these broken people, i hope they find the healing they deserve and are given the support they need.
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 You'd never make Delta, just being real with you. They pick from the best of the best men already serving as elite operators, it's not something you go to the recruiter and pick as a job. Their members are chosen from established Rangers, Green Berets, and other SOF members across the military. So they are basically the select few of the select few.
Or they stop being a baby about it.
You're just making stuff up. You've no idea what you're talking about. Soldiers have tons of medical and mental health resources available to them.
@@grogdizzy5814If you're shilling for the VA, they made my PTSD far worse.
The first victim probably herd of an investigation and he admitted or tried to bring him in on it. The other two were probably considered loose links to the rest of the team members involved.
That or the GB's team mates took revenge🤷🏻♂️
Why do you assume it must be some dark conspiracy?
Your right. Trash got taken out.
@@StockyDude Because the circumstances surrounding the incidents scream dark conspiracy. Ray Charles could see that on a dark night.
@@charlesreeves3426 To people like you, everything screams dark conspiracy.
Bragg is no joke, I hated every time I had to be there. My unit was technically a special operations force, so we trained with certain Tier 2 groups. Even met a few Tier 1 guys. During training, everyone was cool. I learned a lot of small unit tactics and much more. But outside of training or official duties, everyone in my unit stayed away from those guys. We weren’t a direct action force, so we didn’t get much respect from those guys. We were the nerds from Psychological Operations to them.
interesting
Sometimes you need brute force and other times you need the nerds to do certain parts of the job everyone of you guys are important and work as spokes in the wheel can’t have one without the other! Thank you for your service! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
@@Anonymous18817i dont think u can join, ask ur state
@@Anonymous18817 you cant just try out for delta as a civillian, gotta be special kinda special to even get looked at, and you have to have served tier 2 or tier 1 cant remember
Psychological is fictional but so are militaries. You being kept ad a slave whos forced to act like thats untrue just being tortured into appearing to?
Those around you acting alongside you?
The kind of stuff special operators must get away with all the time is insane. The government aren’t gonna indict their own hitmen. Plus you know their training is expensive 💰
...unless they're innocent, like Senior Chief Edward Gallagher! ...or the Shinwar Marsoc Platoon. Ect, ect, ect...
@@CaalamusTubecan you enlighten me?
@Anonymous18817
Yes. You must do 100 push-ups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and a 10k run. This is known as the Saitama and will make you a Green Delta Beret SEAL in the Air Force.
@@Anonymous18817 You will never. The most incredible female specimen to have ever lived will be worse than the shittiest Delta Force member. It's impossible for women to compete.
Crazy how he lived thru the sum of the most dangerous parts of the world n thru a war in general but gets killed by his best friend so messed up
Look at Chris Kyle killed by a F.U. Marine he was trying to help. A young soldier in NY was killed by a couple of gang bangers and the DA gave them a sweet plea deal.
Agreed. It's like those guys who live through multiple combat deployments and come home and get killed in some car wreck leaving or going to base. Crazy how life works sometimes.
@@richieb3356 right and it’s so sad to hear or see these veterans deserve everything especially after risking their life’s for our freedoms I see homeless vets sometimes and it makes me hate on the government that they don’t help em and even if they do it’s suck little help all vets showed be able to get housing and free healthcare for life after their service in my opinion i know most get a check monthly but I’m sure it’s not enough
I always said we survived hell to later die from falling down the stairs at home
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
I would probably also go crazy if I had to go to disney land with children. There are not enough drugs in this world to make that trip tolerable.
Haha😂
😂😂
Oh but there are 😂😂😂😂
@@abseil76 Na, I tried them all.
There's so much sketchy stuff that happens in the area and with SOCOM in general. Total immunity, impunity, and bottomless black budget$$$
Most of them are psychopaths. Most dont do the job for their country. Most do it because they like hunting other humans and that is a job that allows you to kill people and be called a hero instead of a serial killer.
Years ago I was pretty proud of the whole socom deal
Now I avoid my former peer group
@@tomyoung8563 I guess the grass isn’t always greener. I prefer to stay naive unless the ugly is in my face. Hopefully Marines aren’t doing so bad.
@@Wh1stle_03 wasn’t it a recon guy and a seal that killed the SF guy because he caught them stealing operation funds?
America is dysfunctional; the military is a reflection of America.
Sadly
@Whistle any branch of the military is dirty af. Even after their service, God knows what many servicemen have gone through.
When I was active a good friend of mine just got back from Afghanistan and we went out with another friend of his who was a Navy Corpsman. The Corpsman recently returned from California after a buddy of his got his SEAL pin. The Corpsman said when they went out to LA, the SEAL was railing lines of coke like a vacuum cleaner. My Corpsman buddy was like "Dude, are you insane? You just got your trident!" And the SEAL said bluntly, "Uncle Sam just spent [Enter figure here] Million dollars on me, they don't give a fuck,".
Drug use is a very common thing in the military depending on your branch and depending on your MOS/Rate. Grunts, Rangers, SEALs, etc., will do coke, etc., and if get popped for it, it will get swept under the rug and MAYBE they'll get NJPd. If a Sailor, Airmen, Coastie, got popped, they'd immediately processed for discharge.
The Military is so fucked. I tell kids not to join and find something else. The military is a bureaucratic cesspool of meat riding, political yes-men in the Officer corps and everything else is just a fucking shit show.
I've partaken myself with Army guys a few years back. I'm sober now but damn it's rampant
This is truth! I served and seen it all. Some normal military members would pop and stay in also, especially the ones with father's serving that has high rank. On deployments you don't get drugged tested. A lot of service members do drugs while on deployment. Especially drug operations. I've done drug operations, and I've seen the drug use and drug theft that we took from other nations
@SheepDog good ol cocoa puffs.
Yep
Damn well thought we were the 'good guys'
Ive heard a lot of crazy stuff happens in the fort Bragg area. Theres definitely been a few incidents of sf guys breaking the law and drug using/dealing too.
I mean, SF always do shady stuff regardless the place
It’s not just fort Bragg man, I served 2 years in Italy at aviano air base, I knew a SF guy that was smuggling drugs in from Slovenia to sell to the Airman on base, and during my time in tech school at Sheppard AFB in Texas there was multiple drug busts in my barracks alone, acid and cocaine seem to be the drugs of choice for the military.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 killing people is bad, work on your aspirations, be a doctor or some shit, not a government murder puppet
@@Anonymous18817good joke
It could be that Leshikar could’ve found out that his “buddy” was beyond just the guy he knew as being able to hook him up with strong, non-prescribed meds. Maybe this led to the fight when it was discovered his long-time friend was a lowlife drug dealer. Lavigne panicked that Leshikar might turn him in, so he went in phoned the Warrant Officer that was later found dead with him. Perhaps Leshikar was trying to get his daughter from being used as a pawn by Lavigne, so that he wouldn’t get turned in by Leshikar. The idea of getting turned in and losing everything was too much and he killed Leshikar so that he wouldn’t talk to police or Army CID. The trip down to Florida could have been a ruse by Lavigne to pick up dope and bring back to NC. Maybe finding out that Lavigne could’ve jeopardize him and the children made Leshikar confront him. Who wouldn’t be mad?
We’ll never know unless you can trace the call to whoever he called during the time of the incident. I really suspect that it would be the Warrant Officer. Lavigne seems to have gotten what he deserved: the death of a drug dealer and not a hero.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Honestly that would make sense.
@@Anonymous18817I'm a 22 year old man who was at one point USMC infantry. You need to see if you can even hack it in infantry, because plenty of men (let alone women) can't even pass basic training. Or infantry training. If you survive that, recon/green beret/ranger training is likely to be even more brutal and wipes out almost all who attempt it.
If you somehow manage that, you'd beat have an immaculate record to have a shot at being recruited into Delta. That's right, you get CHOSEN. You don't choose to join.
@@Anonymous18817 im a 22 year old man.....DON'T DO IT!!
Something is going on at Fort Bragg… Between 2020 and 2021 80 service members stationed there died “suddenly” or went “missing”. In 2020 a soldier that was stationed there was beheaded and his head washed up on a sea shore in NC.
Most die abroad on mission and the government choose Bragg to declare them dead because "it's rough".
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817 For your own good, abandon this stupidity. Unless you wish to be a "housewife" to your unit and merry-go-rounded for every day of your service between them.
@@swedhgemoni8092 Why? What do you mean? I’m a virgin and I’m waiting until marriage. Or are you saying that I’ll get raped?
@@Anonymous18817 Well, duh! You will have your orifices cratered and that's even assuming you'll be selected.
I can see Delta "taking care of" a rogue operator themselves. Problem solved.
Same
it was more than that
lol
He didn't go rogue. He gave them a special training lesson.
@@Anonymous18817The OTC for Delta Force, as well as selections, both require candidates to be male due to simply superior biology. Males are stronger, faster, more massive, and tend to be more mentally resistant, since they were programmed to hunt and maintain their families from the very start.
There have been speculations women were working at Delta Force. But provided that only recently did the first ever woman pass the US sniper course, let alone get into formations like the 1st SFG or 75RR, not even mentioning Delta.
@@Anonymous18817 I'm basing off of what I know and sources on the internet. Must be outdated sources if that's the case.
@Mshooter666💀
@@Anonymous18817 I dont think women are allowed to join Delta or Devgru at this point of time. Dont know if there are any support roles where you can work within the unit. But you are correct that other socom units allow women to try out. Not going to say you cant do it but there are multiple health risks included in training not just for women but for men too but from medical standpoint the risks are far greater for women than men. Although I hope all the best for you if you decide to try out selection for any sof units.
@@Anonymous18817 Force recon, green berets, rangers and SWCC are significantly different from CAG. It is an ENTIRELY different ball game, the psychological and physical requirements are through the roof. Women are legally allowed, yes, but the requirements are nearly biologically impossible for women. I'm all for you being the first, but for your sake, please, set the bar lower.
Yeah, we got more than a bad drug deal going on here, but hey "Air bubble" I just feel bad for their little ones.
Retribution from the liked green beret's teammates maby?
The fact that the cops tried so hard to cover it up when it was obvious that screw driver story was complete B.S shows you this goes much deeper then anyone can think of….
@@Anonymous18817if you haven't served then i suggest you join, you will not be able to join a spec ops team with zero military background
@@Anonymous18817 I've read this comment for YEARS on Spec Ops vids....
Retired federal agent here. The S.O. (Sheriff's Office) absolutely dropped the ball on this one!
The sherrifs office killed him?
He don’t know he ain’t no damn federal agent man
"dropped the ball" yup
makes you wonder why like FBI or something didn't get involved. I'm an ex active duty Army MP. This has stink all over it obviously. There was clearly some deal(s) being made/had behind closed doors and off the record for sure. I almost couldn't even imagine this in some twisted writer's head to conceive of. I imagine the local police felt completed overpowered and compelled and forced to do whatever the military high command in that area demanded of them. I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, and yes we had SF and Ranger compounds there too, but nothing near like what Ft. Bragg is. The only time I remember interacting with off post law enforcement was some type of civilian protest anti-war BS outside one of our main entry gates.
@@elcolin_socom’s shit never smells baby 😎
As my grandad used to say: Don't ever go on holiday with friends because you won't come back as friends.
Can you elaborate so I can learn this lesson
That's Special Forces correcting a issue, could've been Delta or Green beret or neither the matter was corrected.
It was Rangers from the 75th who got fed up with their unprofessionalism, so they sent a team to kill them. Duh.
@@MM-qt8gz a delta operator is more lethal than a Ranger. He wouldn't have gone down easy. Unless it was an ambush.
@john doe you're a dumbass. At the end of the day, they're all humans. USASOC had a sniper completion two weeks ago, and 75th Rangers got 2nd place, while Delta Force got 8th place and SEALs got 15th place. Well, SEALs suck but I'm just saying. A bullet is a bullet. Delta isn't superman idiot.
@@bluejaysfan965 actually I am I could round house kick them all.
@@kekistanimememan170 what
Command asked for someone to make this go away and it did. RIP.
Maaaan this story goes to the top
SOF dude being found dead with just his boxers and a woobie is just about the most on-brand thing ever.
This would make one hell of a movie.
Interesting he was released two hours after shooting a guy.
What a F up story. The stress and PTSD takes a real toll on these men and those who don't get the help they need, can end up in a very bad place. I know a bunch of active and ret gents from SOF, 99% of them doing well. It only takes terrible events like this to expose the stress/PTSD as potentially deadly.
@@Anonymous18817 Women aren't needed in those roles for many reasons including physicality
Former Army here. You would be astonished at how corrupt and just who commits the crimes on base that go entirely unpunished. A reason why I am not Army anymore. It's pervasive in all branches
Tramadol is a fairly light painkiller, let's not act like it's oxycontin or something. Lots of athletes and operators take it for various pain management. It's also good for managing headaches and migraines, and Leshikar had a TBI so that makes a lot of sense. Sounds like Lavigne got paranoid (and was probably under the influence himself) and murdered Leshikar, then the GB brotherhood got some payback on a very bad apple.
Tramadol is not light. Its an opioid used for moderate to severe pain.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Tramadol is typically given as a sleep aid , most people that go through real combat situations have trouble sleeping .
And to the 22yo woman ya grow balls gain 4" in height and gain 40 to 50 pounds 😂
@firerose4271 , first things pass basic training. Then keep climbing the ropes..
On the Range, truth will out. I was an Army Brat, 57-76. We were Catholic. When asked if I was molested by Army priests, my response was, " Do you really think the priest would make it in from any training?"
BS that someone can get away with murder that easily and only spent two hours in jail. I feel sorry for the two little girls and what they had to witness.
Your correct however the military has spent multi millions on his training alone and wasnt going to throw him and his skill sets away. As compared to a regular infantry soldier.
@@brianfitch5469 training should not matter. I’m sure if it was a doctor lawyer fighter pilot they spent just as much money. Nobody no matter what their profession is above murder bottom line.
@@RRJ00777
Morally, yes.
Practically? No.
Believing otherwise is naive.
@@RRJ00777 it does matter for the gov, the amount they spent.. they had to let the guy go. Where as if he was locked up, they would've lost 2 of their best sf's
@@GodsVisuals I don’t agree with that at all. If that was true, then every operator could just go kill someone and it would be OK. you’re saying because you’re an SF or Delta operator you can get away with murder? No one doesn’t matter who you are. No one is above murder.
Good thing Brandon changed the name of Fort Bragg to Fort Liberty. This will fix things.
Truly an intriguing short video. I honestly believe he was taken out by the other Soldiers. Those who were close and served with the soldier he first shot. An eye for an eye sort of thing. It's a Shame the first killing happened in the house with both their 5 yr old daughters. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
No… the bothers had nothing to do with it. And our daughter was 5, Billy’s daughter was 3
@@lauralesh7084 so your Marks Wife ? I'm so sorry for your loss. The video said only the two girls. One 5 one 3 were witness to this horrible incident. Truly my heart goes out to all involved. Mark being shot by his best friend was shocking. Thoughts and prayers to all. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@@lauralesh7084if they were involved I would’ve looked the opposite way
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
@@Anonymous18817lol, was a good laugh
Note: Tramadol is not only an opioid but it's also an SSRI (an antidepressant). Most doctors either don't know or fail to tell people this and it can have horrible consequences. It's not good to be taking a drug that is really two very different drugs.
I received it from having torn patella and the side effects are crazy still have fast random pace caffeine triggers sweaty rushes and on top of that suffer from migraines. For taking them 1 year straight without being told what the side effects were.
There's a side effect called akathisia that causes homicide and suicide
It’s actually synthetic opioid if I’m not mistaken and often causes seizures
@@ocelothayes9452 I only had one no wonder yet I got told it runs in the "family "?.
@@ocelothayes9452 its both, actually. opioid and ssri
Only way to keep a secret is if only two people know, and one of them is dead.
DMTNT -dead men tell no tales.
Who did the investigation, the keystone cops? My God.
Army CID. A very deep rabbit they where not allowed to go.
locals pd lol
Jesus people made fun of us MPs , but I don’t think we could even dick something up that bad.
This has "The Terminal List" vibe. An Amazon Prime series in which Chris Pratt perfectly pulled off the hardcore macho military guy, very different from his goofy Star-Lord character.
I would bet my rank as a Sergeant, an E-5 with 3yrs time In grade, that Leshiker (i prolly fucked up the spelling of his name) either found out Lavigne was moving product or Lavigne wanted Leshiker to make a pick up or drop off if or when he had another tour coming up in a certain middle eastern country that survives off of the heroine drug trade.
So Leshiker either turned him down or was prepared to let their Command know about Lavigne’s 2nd job. So Lavigne acted without thinking it through. Also, I would say Lavigne was NOT an actual Delta force Operator or part of Delta Operations. I figure Lavigne was Delta Intelligence (S2 or Intel) or another section or department that supported the Operations section. Had they both been in Ops and were teammates or at the least had come to rely on each other when shit goes kinetic. There would have been a bond between them or a trust that supersedes almost everything life could have thrown at them. Lavigne would have never killed him, or even worry that Leshiker would have turned him in to Command for his questionable activities. Had they been teammates Leshiker might have been pissed beyond belief and absolutely despised Lavigne’s actions, but no matter what IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED IN HOUSE! The situation around Lavigne’s death says it was handled “IN HOUSE”!
Myself, as a former US Marine 0341 (Mortarman/Infantry) just a lowly Grunt compared to Tier One Operators, fully understand the bond and trust built among your brothers during training and partying together. Later during combat operations that bond is forged into something near unbreakable! Not a one of the Marines in my Squad and gun team and our platoon even, NOT A SINGLE MARINE ive fought beside would turn in their brother or brothers to an outsider or anyone that IS NOT part of US, WE, OUR LITTLE GROUP OF ASSHOLES. We would deal out punishments to whom and when if needed. If a Marine (hypothetically) had raped a little girl and we all knew about. We would have held a get together with just our NCOs. We would have our own investigation. If proven without doubt that Pvt Schmukatelli committed said rape, while on patrol or on mission we would have placed him in a position that seriously decreased his life expectancy! One of us would have informed our Command of his transgressions we had discovered in the packing up of his belongings to return to his family after he was killed by enemy fire on his last mission. My platoon never had any degenerates that bad and we all were fairly decent people. However, some of us did shit that would have cost them rank, or worse, but we handled it in house. CNN and FOX news didnt get to blast anyones fuck ups all over the world and making us all look like criminals or worse. We handled our issues and no one else needed to know.
o7
What is he was banging his best friends wife?
The thing is, they weren’t teammates. They became friends because they lived in the same apartments years before this. Also, their daughters were good friends.
And that is how any respected unit deals with their own!!!
Probably the best comment I’ve seen and the most logical
Thank you for your service
They always say if you get caught doing illegal activity, you're on ur own and they won't back you up saying they gave you permission, the government that is
This makes me sick! I'll bet such criminal activity by military personnel is far greater than the public will ever know.
Duh
Well...when you get human beings, together, in a group... Government, Catholic Church, Home Owners Association, the Mafia-- there are bad apples everywhere. It's human nature.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
There was just a huge drug ring busted up (as well as underage prostitution) involving Delta guys in southern pines NC about 35mins from Fort brag
It's wild how the military will go after Innocent people and ruin their lives while ignoring people like this dude.
What are you waffiling about
@@WhiteBoyTariq idk maybe some of the situations like the one I was in where my gear got stolen out of my locked locker cause I didn't know the lock I was using was letting the handle still be opened. My ncos tried charging me for my stolen gear after they put up the notice about my lock with a picture of my lock saying don't use these. Thank goodness someone higher up said no you aren't charging them and then gave me a flippl.
@@raphmaster23 well to be fair, if you aren’t a top tier operator why would they care? Realistically. These guys are hard to find and cost a lot to train. Kind of like how you can have a star player on a team who does drugs, beats their spouse, etc but it’s the star player. You lose him, you lose money.
@@liveandlearn901 never said I was a tier 1 operator i was just an 88m. The original comment was talking about the the fact that some chains of command like screwing over their soldiers and then wonder why we don't reenlist 🤷♀️
@@raphmaster23 they don't give af if we don't reenlist, someone will always come along and replace us. I replaced a guy that went UA (AWOL), he came back a year later all beat up and stabbed because he got into a bar fight, that's how he got caught... He went to the hospital and his name popped up, got processed out after. Anyways, I trained my replacements. They don't give af. The propaganda machine is strong enough that there will always be more.
makes you wonder why like FBI or something didn't get involved. I'm an ex active duty Army MP. This has stink all over it obviously. There was clearly some deal(s) being made/had behind closed doors and off the record for sure. I almost couldn't even imagine this in some twisted writer's head to conceive of. I imagine the local police felt completed overpowered and compelled and forced to do whatever the military high command in that area demanded of them. I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, and yes we had SF and Ranger compounds there too, but nothing near like what Ft. Bragg is. The only time I remember interacting with off post law enforcement was some type of civilian protest anti-war BS outside one of our main entry gates. I can only IMAGINE the kind of relationship between local civilian off post law enforcement in an area not only surrounded by so much Army, let alone super high high profile Delta TS clearance type stuff. Jeeezzzzus. I ask out loud (but I know why already) why like a more thorough, higher level FBI-type investigation didn't take place. That's all I'll say.
I can’t imagine how much rage those delta members felt. I can’t imagine them not wanting to go after him.
As a former Army Military Policeman, I would guess it was a revenge killing. I would like to know what MOS was the CWO in.
Hi, I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
You may as well let it go. This is not public information. The community is generally tight lipped and can handle these situations in their own way.
Not anymore they can’t, obviously.
@@AjninHaru So much goes on behind the scenes. People generally think that because they are not informed, that the situation is always out of control. But what most people fail to understand, is that they do not have a need to know everything.
@@ezra8435 facts.. and the general public doesn’t have a clue wtf is going on.. nor will they ever.. they might get little crumbs here and there but never know 99.99% of it.. however there’s been a lot of shady shit like this goin down in the specops community last few years.. for example the green beret who was killed by a couple SEALs because the GB found out they were drug trafficking and was gunna expose them.. sounds like this might’ve been a similar situation however the green beret’s homies got revenge.. the warrant officer who was killed was probably involved in the drug trafficking operation hence why he was killed too.. probably set em up with a fake sale and did em in right there.. they stripped the delta guy down to his underwear too so I’d imagine they might’ve tortured him before hand.. friend of mine from high school’s dad is an OG SEAL of like 20 years and she’s currently married to a SEAL whose in and one of my best friend’s dad is a really high ranking SEAL.. his dad was one of the commanders at either devgru or green team can’t remember which.. but yea he’s been in like 25+ years.. they’ve told me some shit..
@@AjninHaru that’s a lie. You think that because you never hear about the things that are taken care of. You have no idea lmao
@@johnconner4695 SPECOPs like every other institution in America is an absolute dumpster fire. Certainly there are lots of good individuals but the institution as a whole has been completely corrupted. There used to be a thing called silent professionalism. I remember a time when you didn’t know people that worked for SPECOPs units and Intel Agencies until well after their death. The notoriety, fame and constant divulging of tactics and equipment is only tolerable because we don’t really have any enemies that are peers.
In my best Dennis Haysbert voice... "You live by the sword, you die by the sword..."
Well that's 8 minutes I'll never get back.
Pure speculation on my end, but the fact Levine was killed later makes me believe these two cases are connected.
I’ve heard many stories about former SF guys getting involved in less-than-legal activities after their service (confirmed that Navy seals trained the Zetas Cartel back in the day, there are also lots of rumors about former SF guys working as hitmen and advisors for certain cartels down south, etc). Smells like Levine was doing something illegal and Leshikar was getting in the way of that… the fact that Levine turned up dead later makes me think that whoever killed him was probably tying up some loose ends, maybe Levine brought too much heat onto whatever he was involved with or whatever.
And it might be a reach, but I strongly suspect that the only type of person who would have the balls and the means to kill an SF operative would be another SF operative.
Regardless, this case is really strange. The fact that one of the world’s most elite killers can just turn up dead like this after murdering his best friend is concerning to say the least. I hope one day the public can learn what really happened during all this.
No shit
Nah. Anyone can walk up and assassinate someone. Special Operators aren’t superhuman.
Could have been some punk.
The public will never know about this because it's too obscure. Many ends that should not be discovered. Cartel is involved. It's not worth it.
Could possibly be
The Zetas were trained when they were Active Duty Military. It wasn't Operators going rogue and training them...they were supposedly on the "right side" (which in Mexican Government does not exist) and were Cartel affiliated LATER. Years later.. They used that training when they abandoned their posts and became Narcos. Get it right or don't speak it.
I thought the meaning of going ‘rogue’ is when a soldier is on duty… not when he is on holidays with his family…
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Look up the definition goofy
This needs to be a movie! 🤯
There is so much more to this story than any of you know. Nothing is as it seems.
I love that C.S.A battle flag IR Patch
Hope y'all have that same energy with these morons with the hammer and sickle flag... extremists from any side have no place in the military. It's why the military is trash
I knew William. Not long at all. But he was always a weird person. The type that didn’t have to say a word and you knew immediately he was someone not to trust. This story is not fully explained either.
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
last i saw they pinnned it on a young guy from lauringburg or somewhere like that kenneth quick
He was always carrying his knife or bow and arrow or pistol. Always something. Jim and mark use to get high a lot. drinking at the gym / hang out bar warehouse with other JSOC dudes. mark was was troubled mental soul who i believe what happens to CAGs who break after so much. He was into drug manufacturing. Prostitution. Shootings. Harboring felons and fugitives. Etc etc.
On a dude that was already in prison mind you.
@@Anonymous18817well, first of all, you won't make it. And just don't. Women DO NOT belong in military or law enforcement. Because of women standards have dropped and the army has been going down hill very fast. Stay the fuck out of my army, please.
If someone killed Lavigne for revenge and all Delta was against him, who killed Timothy? And why Lavigne's body was covered by a insu poncho, like if someone was trying to keep him alive? Two factions shot eachother when Lavigne died. Are they connected to Leshikar's murder? I guess we'll only know when God tells us, after our deaths.
They might have only intended for Lavigne initially but Dumas started defending himself so they had to kill him too. As to why he was covered with a liner and mostly naked? He was obviously stripped of his clothing by whoever killed him, for what reason is unclear.
@@Wh1stle_03 stripping him of rank, meaning you are no longer one of us... They deemed him not worthy of wearing the uniform
it takes some special to take out a Delta operator
They say when a person kills someone they love or care about they will show it by covering or showing the body respect. Sounds like whomever did the deed had no choice but still felt remorse.
@@whiteshadow_001 no one is bulletproof
Yooo you are brave for posting this or have no idea what you are posting! I'm definitely subscribing for the balls on you
A lot of people didn't pick up on this and are claiming negligence in terms of how the investigation was handled. He was intentionally cleared because they had thier own plans for justice....
I'm a former Army CID Special Agent who was stationed at Fort Bragg for three years and I can tell you absolutely nothing happens in the Special Operations compound without their command's approval. It was extremely frustrating to try to conduct thorough investigations when they involved operators. We had to notify their chain of command in advance and get their approval before we could even contact the SOF Soldier. And if their command didn't want CID poking around their unit...well....case closed.
Need more of these stories they're great content
The beginning reminds of the story from the terminal list, got hit by an ied,got taken drugs. Crazy man.
I wanna say it sounds like revenge by other unit members for what happened, but then that doesn't make sense because the other guy, Dumas(?) was killed too.
And it started before that - with the shoddy police investigation, so...maybe something shady was going on, and not JUST a revenge killing by the unit members. Who knows
“Most professional units.”
“Mentor to many.”
“Became addicted to medication.”
“Known to use cocaine.”
lol
Soooo like most special forces dudeds lol have to imagine its even worse on Delta Force. You dont make it there for being a warm and fuzzy type who goes with the flow.
A word of advice for you internet detectives out there. I wouldnt look too hard into this one or even start searching to try to figure something out. Its a recommendation. You can do what you like but get too close and you might not be able to just say you saw nothing.
Not fazed, glowie. The truth, like murder, shall out whether by hook or by crook.
@@swedhgemoni8092 clearly you don't know what part I was talking about.
lol hell id read some articles but i be damned id investigate i used be there and you can get out of ya league poking to much
The family knows....the little girls who were in the room know.
lol near a training area at ft Bragg and no surveillance cameras picked up the perpetrators… unreal.
I worked on much smaller bases and the SOC’s have like 30+ screens with damn near 1000 cameras with every single angle known to man, and ft Bragg home of the most elite special forces can’t figure out who is where.
they have a guy they charged but iused live in cameron and sneak in bragg u really have know this area to get there without going in a gate
5:28 Why are the Rims and Tires so small
Just goes to show not everyone who serves in the military is honorable... Same goes for LE too.
Wild world!! Stay hard!!
So wait a Delta operator showed up to a drug deal in his boxers?? What? Sounds more like he got snatched out of bed in the middle of the night by people with bad intentions.
What about the dead army warrant officer then?
His clothes may have contained evidence or items the killers didn’t want found. They were removed prior to or after his death by them.
1:03 addicted to tremadol?
I didn't even realize that was a thing.
I also heard that a marsoc member killed a green beret
My heart and prayers goes out to those 2 little girls that was there!the stuff iv been through places iv been made me a very hardened man but knowing what they went through hurts my heart man!
May I ask what you seen
I’m a 22 year old woman and I’m from Arizona.
What advice would you give to a woman that wants to be a Delta Force assaulter? How does the Delta community feel about women joining them?
If you had to go to Delta Force selection again, how would you prepare differently? Has a woman ever graduated from the Operators Training Course?
I’m 5’8” and 168lbs, is that a good or bad size? What books or workout programs would you recommend to prepare for it?
Can anyone say CIA 🙄🤔
Sea Eye Aye
lol where there parliamentary guys come from , they work hand in hand and cross train in virginia
This sounds like Fort Hood but with special forces😂
The government got rid of loose ends buddy w story keep up the great work
A high ranking socom dude getting away with multiple felonies and the dod swept it under the rug enabling the situation to have a domino effect? What else is new.
The fact that they stripped him and gave him a woobie to "sleep" with tells you all you need to know....
That was clearly a "message" to anyone else wanting to play FAFO. No doubt about that.
That's not exactly going rogue.
going rogue means: 'behaving in an erratic or dangerous fashion by disregarding the rules.' I think killing a fellow soldier and trafficking drugs is most likely not what a operator should do lol
@FreexNess Absolutely. The title implies he betrayed his unit, though. It's more than a bit misleading.
@@keithjackson4985 misleading is what u could describe most things nowadays.
@@keithjackson4985 i would say killing his buddy is betraying his unit idk tho that might sound crazy but yea
Didn’t big meech try and say in court at his trial that he was being forced to work for delta king pins
Why did RUclips take this down
Most likely a hit by other members of delta force. With his kind of training, he'd see an amateur coming a mile away. It had to be see he wouldn't have his guard up in front of, someone he trusted therefore it was a hit within the unit
It doesn't take a delta guy to kill one. They are phenomenal, but there are no shortage of trained and dedicated people who can get the drop on you. All it takes is planning and dedication.
@@abefrohammer3105 getting the drop on 2 highly trained people, one of them being the best there is to offer from the army isn't something a tacticool sorta guy could do. It would make more sense for the hit to be done within the unit to be as clean as possible, especially when the hit took place in a military base. That's what I think
@@ubt3606 that is the most likely outcome, however, there's a wide gulf between tacticool and delta. Delta guys are the best, but they also get killed by dudes in flip flops with an AK. His list of enemies was probably pretty big considering who he killed, what he was involved with, and who he worked for. There are shooters up and down that chain who could have made it happen.
@@abefrohammer3105 I know, but it's my theory that it was done within the unit, or SF
@@ubt3606 real life isn’t John wick kiddo.
Drugs, Money, Egos
I had a leader who was a sniper or Bravo support fire element for over 20 years in sfod-d he died oef3 bronze star for pulling guys out of a burning Blackhawk rip sgm Albert
Nice to know Delta handles their business in house.