60103 Flying Scotsman Goes BANG at Slough!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- 60103 Flying Scotsman Goes BANG at Slough!
Towards the end of a railtour from Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington the A3 was short of steam and the train was terminated at Slough! The BANG bit of the videos comes from the detonators placed on the track as 47804 arrived to rescue 60103 and take her back to Southall.
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Well Ronnie, I bet if that Mail Train you held up had been Steam and not Diesel, it wouldn’t have been as easy,
It's a pity one of our local rail groups went under because of a lack of volunteers, seems that since covid lockdowns, video games have taken over our young people's world yet again. The self-isolation seems also to have taken its toll on most rail enthusiasts too.
Feel for the passengers; great day out, ruined by being stopped in Slough.... My favourite view of Slough was always the one in my rear view mirror.
The station itself is an architectural gem, having been built for Queen Victoria to visit Windsor!! Not a lot of people know that !!😆
@@johntyjp That was because both Great Western and LSWR were in competition to serve Her Majesty between Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle. Running on the North side of the Thames, GWR were further constrained by Eton college demanding an exclusion zone around the place so as not to distract the boys. Running a branch from Slough, crossing the river at a discreet distance from Eton, and then back to Central Station; which is across the road from the main entrance. You're right, though; it's just about the only building of any architectural merit in the entire place.
Most of the passengers had already got off at Didcot and Reading so there were very few on the train when this happend.
@@johntyjp I hope you typed that whilst doing your Michael Caine impression. lol
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To quote John Betjeman : "Come friendly b*%$bs & fall on Slough."
The problem was probably the coal, the imported stuff is a much lower calorific value than most other coals. Not only does that mean she'll run out of coal quicker, but it also means there's more ash to cause build up over the firebox arch or clinker in the firebox itself.
That's part of the reason why I like to advocate for Advanced Steam Technology, such as the Red Devil locomotive or the now-abandoned 5AT project. Even small changes to a locomotive that otherwise won't be noticeable can have a huge impact on the locomotive's performance. For example, the Gas Producer and Combustion system (GPCS) not only burns coal more efficiently by allowing total combustion, but in its true form it introduces saturated steam onto the firebed, knocking loose ash while also regulating temperature to prevent clinker
She needs to run on the very best Welsh coal.
@@claudebylion9932 She doesn't even need Welsh Coal. Bituminous Coal from the Midlands would've been more than enough considering her Double Chimney makes her less partial to the fuel she uses. Since she can't use domestically sourced coal, she has to run on that low caloric crap from abroad, which even her double chimney won't help out with
It's the GWR Kings that need Welsh Coal, they're built specifically to burn the stuff. Anything else will make them steam poorly
You could convert her to oil fired...
I understand Australian coal has very good calorific value.
The other option could be an oil burner conversion. Union Pacific have done that on a lot of their old locos.
These magnificent machines, designed by magnificent men and built by even more magnificent men. Living breathing magnificent monsters. Engineering at its best.
Built in my home town, Doncaster. So to, The Mallard.
@@lesleybenson8794 don't know where the Tornado was built but it kept seizing up until some older steam engineers told them to open up the bearings to allow for expansion. Now its a wonderful sight to watch thundering along.
@@claudebylion9932 Thank you for watching! 60163 Tornado was built in Darlington.
@@HenrysAdventures thank you for your information, much appreciated
@@claudebylion9932 You're welcome!
Awesome catch. Good job. Greetings and love from Bangladesh.
Thank you very much!
It breaks my heart to see my most favourite steam loco in the world like this I was almost in tears when I thought the Bang was the engine, it turns 100 next year it's getting to an age where it will unfortunately break down or fail a lot, to me it really needs that overhaul it's having at the end of the month
Hardly, it's been so rebuilt over the years you can only really date it to its last heavy overhaul. Any issues are likely to be due to the quality of coal available these days
It's a blt like triggers broom
Only 6% is 100 years old, and all the bits that are failing are brand new, they didn't make it like it was originally.
From what I’ve heard only the main frames are original. But I’m willing to be corrected
@@Fleetwoodphil1 wrong
I don't understand why everybody are sad about the Steam Lady... She didn't break up some rod or piston... She simply run out of steam due to her hard work (my guess)!
Just a clean up to the fireplace when she will reach the shed and I think she will be in great shape the very next day!
Does no one know how to run steam locos any more ?
@@millomweb the thing is that theresn't so many water towers left on the railroads, and same goes to coal deposits... They're available only where the locomotives are stored. This is how it works in Italy too when they do special heritage trains with steam locomotives. Mostly are filled by firetrucks and the coal is loaded only at the hangar where the loco is stored, plus there's always a diesel or electric locomotive that escort the train
@@lowrangemaniac5326 Well, yes, it was either out of fuel or water. Sort of basic supplies that should have been preplanned prior to the journey !
Of course, no steam loco would be out of water if they didn't waste it. It's the most recyclable commodity known on the planet !
@@lowrangemaniac5326 I know out here in Oz, occasionally they’ll run with an open wagon marshalled behind & betwn the loco & cars to carry excess coal in preloaded bags, then they usually get a truck out with a small crane apparatus fitted to the rear of the tray to load the bags from the transport wagon into the tender, this is done in remote rural areas & a Water Gin will also usually also come along for the ride these days also…
@@Dalts1985 it reminds me to a similar solution that they have done during a parallel run between two steam trains on Swiss mountain: the french train was a double headed train, and between the two steam locomotives there was a wagon with a crane and a load of coal...
Small off topic: the parallel runs that they do in Germany are something crazy and spectacular to see! Two steam trains that runs side by side, that they looks like they're racing against each other
Always remember my brother and I dangling our legs over a bridge and feeling the steam envelope us as the Flying Scotsman thundered past (65 years ago!).
Have very similar memories of being at Doncaster early one Sunday morning when A3 60110 Robert the Devil came thundering through on the fast line making the trolley on which we were sitting platform 3 jump.
Magnificent with its German style wind deflectors.
It was great to see the detonators in action, no many videos about of these being used truly in anger, and I've only seen footage of these when being "demonstrated".
Thank you for watching and glad you enjoyed seeing the detonators in action!
@@HenrysAdventures thanks for filming and sharing it.
@@James_Rivett You're welcome!
@@HenrysAdventures made you jump though!
I was wondering about this - what's the reason for the detonators? I've heard of these being used as a pre-warning for fog back in the days of steam, but what's their purpose in a situation like this? Thanks
Imagine getting stuck in Slough
Haha that flinching never stops happening 🤣
Good video Henry that first detonator made you jump when it went off 😂👍👍
Thank you! :) Yes, I wasn't expecting them!
Nasty! I spent nearly 2 wonderful years at Slough Loco. One of our 61xx tanks would have sorted that load of junk out in half the time!
That would have made a lovely sight!
Is like when scotsman was short of steam, is like she was soo tired after pulling the lont Express train and cound not pull it anmore. But im glad a diesel helped her, and oh boy scotsman needs the rest
Thank you for watching!
Stuff happens, I am afraid, but at least you have captured an unusual event through to the rescue. Do not often hear detonators on videos when actually used for genuine reasons.
Great video.
Thank you for watching and your comments!
If I recall correctly the rules regarding the laying of detonators was as follows. If a train or light engine failed in mid section then it was the job of the fireman to protect the rear from possible collision from a following train. He had to lay one detonator a quarter of a mile from the rear, another at a half mile and three detonators, ten yards apart at three quarters of a mile! The three detonators at Slough were probably a precaution as the diesel Loco was running wrong line to collect the casualty.
Great capture of the detonators. I've witnessed that on heritage line, but never mainline!
Thanks for sharing 😀
P.S. wonder if any of you know, is the following true, or a load of bull?
Placing detonators are only ever placed on a 'single' rail, i.e. never placed on both rails opposite each other.
This is due to back in steam days, where there was a risk to the likes of front bogie wheels jumping the rail, from both sides receiving shock simultaneously.
@@brianpugh887 Thank you for that explanation!
The relief when the bang came from the detonators and not Scotsman. Hope to see Scotsman if or when the overhaul is finished before end of year.
sad that the NRM have confirmed that she won't be wearing her original livery for her centenary
@@terrier_productions To be honest I don't mind what livery it will be in. I've only ever seen it in BR green. The only problem with apple green is it will still have the smoke deflectors, I like this look but some people don't.
@@chrisdavies3913 True.. 60103 in her apple green whilst still in A3 form (with smoke deflectors) is my personal favourite version of her but I can see why people would be getting at.
However, there has been countless times when a locomotive has been re-painted into an inaccurate livery.
Take 34027 "Taw Valley" as an example; in the early noughties, she was painted in red to see what she would look like if she would be chosen to play "Hogwarts Castle" in the HP films and the SVR have announced that 34027 will also be temporarily painted purple to mark the Queen's Platinum Jubilee.
50031 is also currently wearing InterCity Swallow Livery which the Class 50s didn't originally wear during BR ownership.
Thank you for watching! I agree, she should be 60103 when she's still got the smoke deflectors!
@@terrier_productions I personally wouldn't call it inaccurate, ild call it writing a new chapter in its history.
But she seemed to be steaming well and there’s no great climb from Slough to Southall. Interesting to see a 47 in action, they seem to have all but vanished after being so ubiquitous
Just thinking about how now, the 47 is practically a museum piece too ... they're all over 50 now.
I know that with the "Stanley Steamer" cars in the USA that bad things happen when the pressure gets too low. I'm glad this lovely train was "rescued".
She was out again this weekend with no problems!
Stanleys have a flash boiler that works rather differently.
amazing Video so sad to see my Girl Weak and and Low on Steam my poor Girl
Thank you! I've sure she'll be running again soon!
@@HenrysAdventures i hope so my friend
Super piece of nighttime video. Well done, and thanks for sharing. 👍👍
You're welcome! Thank you for watching! :)
A quick glance at the comments tells me Slough is still the butt of jokes
The only UK station with squiggles on the platform name boards . . .
Cheers, fond memories of Scotty in Australia.
Thank you for watching! I've got some videos of her visit to Australia. Looks like she had a fantastic time!
I'm afraid there's a lot of uninformed comment on here, the only people who know what went wrong are those involved. The coal at the back of the tender may not have come from the same batch as that used earlier in the day. if the fire had clinkered there was nothing the crew could do about it on the run from Swindon as they are not permitted to use the fire irons under the wires. No doubt we will find out what really happened in the fullness of time
I agree John, I had this happen to me when I was an apprentice working on the footplate, the forward journey was uneventful until halfway through the return the fire seemed not to be as hot as before. No matter how we tried the heat seemed to just disappear. After we got back to the shed we noticed that the coal coming from the rear of the tender seemed different from the load that was taken on board that day. Seemed that the last load of coal came from a different supplier and wasn't quite s good as it should've been.
Hi John I'm 'uninformed' (haven't made any negative comments). So what has happened here? Are you saying that the fire isn't hot enough to produce steam? What would have happened 'in the old days' if she was steaming up Beattock and ran out of steam - no diesel rescues back then?
@@thefabulousstevieg in the old days if the fire clinkered up a fire iron could be used to breakup the clinker and get it going again. Might be a few minutes delay but nothing worse...
This is still possible on non electrified lines but the use of fire Irons isn't permitted under overhead wires as they have yet to invent an insulated fire iron that can withstand the heat of the firebox
@@dasy2k1 thanks for that - as I said, I'm not that knowledgable about the actual demands on a fireman on a steam locomotive.
What kind of claptrap about firing irons is this? The engine doesnt have an open roof?? Also engines of this size usually have tilting grates so they can drop a portion of the fire whilst running or when on a siding.. Sounds to me there's a lot of red tape here that limits the engineers options and not the available technology. And we should not forget that in the last 20 odd years of steam at BR most of these engines were under the wire anyways...
Awesome to see the Flying Scotsman at Slough. At least you didn't get bowled by a GWR or TfL Rail train.
Great action, well filmed.
Thank you very much!
What a shame it had to end like that. I saw the train at Stonehouse and Scotsman looked and sounded magnificent bathed in a golden glow as she sped through the Golden Valley.
I agree, it was a great day and she performed fantastically!
@@HenrysAdventures i dont understand what broke
@@thedanishtrain2004 Nothing, just not enough steam!
I came here for The Scotsman, but the sound of that "47" really did it for me!
You're can't beat a Class 47!
I hope they fix this famous locomotive, I'ts my fav British loco
She's due to be out again tomorrow so all is looking good!
When Bear rescues Scott.
That’s my fav steam train man
She’s not out of steam…. Her safetys are feathering.
She had some steam but not enough to haul the train!
I love it
THank you for watching!
@@HenrysAdventures yes
Taking the narration of "You burst your safety valve" sorta literally.
Unfortunate but also beautiful. Nice footage.
Thank you! Less than a week later she was out again hauling another tour!
TIL they're also called detonators. I'm in the US where they were called torpedoes. I learned of them years ago because of the local news story where one was found wedged behind the license plate of a county sheriff's cruiser.
´the detonators are called "Knallkapseln" in Germany, placed upon the track for safety reasons..e. g accident sides or broken down trains.. Greetings from Germany !
Thank you for watching and the info.
Wonderful
Thank you! Cheers!
Great
Thank you!
As a matter of interest I wonder what the weight of the train is these days when they a full of passengers (given that most people are overweight these days)?
A broad gauge 1676 mm full aluminium and steel body train India weighs above 1500 tonnes...with 22 coaches. Average weight of an LHB coach being 39.2 tonnes, and a locomotive weighing in excess of 120 tonnes.
Freight trains in India today are as heavy as 5000 tonnes
Usually around 400 tons. I’m unsure the weight of the train in this instance but usually they’re around 10 coaches and coaches usually weigh between 30-40tons depending which coaches are being used.
I’m so excited to see her next Thursday God willing
Than you for watching! I'm sure she'll be out again soon!
I saw this lovely locomotive at Worcester shrub Hill what a fine machine
Thank you for watching!
Could have called video ''Brush Type 4 rescues 'Flying Rustbucket from Slough'! But seriously, poor old Scotsperson; we had this with 'Tangmere' at Reading several years ago, and on the same run.
Haha, and yes I remember that trip from Worcester with Tangmere which only got as far as Reading on the return!
bit of a harsh thing to call this grand old lady
@@garryvarley2800 Not really! I've not said anything bad about her. I've simply played on words with what happened.
@@sugarbertie1143 Did someone say that if Scotland leaves the UK, she will demand that Royal Scot becomes Independent Scot, Scots Guardsman, will become Scots Guardsperson, 'Royal Highland Fusilier, will become Independent Scottish Fusilier, Gordan Highlander, will become Highland Person, and Royal Scots Greys will become Independent Scottish nondescripts, while the ECML expresses, Flying Scotsman, will be known as the Flying Scots persons, and the Queen of Scots will be known as the Nicola Sturgeon Pullman. Schools will be taught that the ECML most southernly station is Marshall Meadows Bay, and the WCML Southern starting point is between Penrith and Carlisle, and that nothing south of Hadrian's wall exists.
And did someone else say that the two Ronnie's series "the worm that turned" will become compulsory viewing, and anyone compeering her to Wee Jimmy Crankie will be given life in prison, and children will be taught that Pigs are no longer be described as Swine, but as Volant (animals with the ability to fly), whilst Holyrood will be renamed Cloud Cuckoo land.
I really must remember to keep taking the tablets lmfao
@@sugarbertie1143 Looney Tunes, special medication for colds.
Taken thrice nightly hey keep you as sane as Daffy Duck, but with wee bouts of side effects, such as slim and as attractive as Porkie Pig, as intelligent as Elmer Fudd, as welcoming to minorities as Foghorn Leghorn, as fragrant as Pepé Le Pew, as energetic as Speedy Gonzales, as friendly to the birds as Sylvester, as observational as tweetie pie, as dizzy as the Tasmanian Devil, as determined as Wile E. Coyote, and the luck of the Road Runner, as friendly as Bugs Bunny, and as gun happy as Yosemite Sam.
Do you think their any good?
Wrong coal? There's plenty under Wales.
Probably imported from Russia
Probably not allowed to use it (not green enough). Much better to import c**p from the other side of the world, then blame the crew!!!
For an engine at such a grand age it had to happen sometime, but Slough is not the most salubrious place to break down.
We call them torpedoes in north america,, retired AAR Carman
I noticed the rhythmic "thump thump" of Flying Scotsman as she was sitting in the station. It's a sound which is more noticeable in Western films when the train is stationary. Does anyone know specifically what causes it ?
Air compressor?
That's the air pump for the brakes you can hear.
@@paulnicholson1906 Yes it is.
@@HenrysAdventures Thanks Henry. When I was a kid British trains had vacuum brakes, hence the unfamiliarity.
Westinghouse air pump...
I was waiting for the bang ???
Watch the whole video and you'll see them!
the Diesel loco on the way was the bang. not the flying scotsman
Its a play on words are "goes bang" is also used to describe a failed loco!
So the Dets went bang lol.
Ye,, Sulzer to the rescue. 👍
Thank you for watching! :)
@@HenrysAdventures your welcome. 👍
no class69 nearby....
Has anyone considered that the crews were short of hours? It happens! When they used to do the Poole - Bristol runs at Xmas they often brought in Riley’s Black Fives……..they would do a L/E Move from Bury to Swanage then be up early to do the Run from Swanage to Poole, then onto Bristol, plus turning moves……..By the time they were back at Salisbury the steam had to be taken off!!!!!! In later days they pathed it in but before they had no idea!
These things happen!!
While I can't comment of other trips, I know on this occasion it wasn't the same crew on the loco all day.
I thought by the title that chimney soot caused a flashover but no!
Me waiting scotsman 2 usa tour: whats taking so long
What a shame, well needed rest and refresh now though
She was out again a week later and had no problems!
Hoorah
Thank you for watching!
Where was the bang? She’s simmering nicely. The lack of steam could be due to poor coal or inexperienced footplate staff. A3’s we’re usually good steamers so it’s all a bit odd as after slough the road ahead is quite even.
The bang is a play on words/term for failure and there were of course the bangs from the detonators.
Sorry, 'out of steam' do you mean insufficient steam pressure to move the loco? If there's water in the boiler and coal in the tender, I dont understand how working pressure was lost and couldnt be built up by adding more coal to the boiler? Can someone enlightened explain to those of us who dont quite understand?
Yes, as you can see there is steam but not enough pressure for the loco to haul the train. She could have departed but might not have made it back to Paddington so the decision was taken to fail her and wait for the rescue loco to come along.
Usually the problem is with the fire. It builds clinker and the air cannot get through the firebed to produce enough heat. Giving the fire a thorough clean can fix the problem but can take an hour if the pit is available. Which it might not be at slough.
My guess would be poor coal. Some years ago I used to volunteer on the Teifi Valley NG railway in wales, we had some horrible coal there once. Sadly decent Welsh Steam Coal is not to be found any more. The horrible coal was from Poland I believe, had a lot of sulphur and made dirty yellow smoke when you lit the engine up. It's harder to run steam locos on the modern railway as most of the infrastructure for them is long gone, such things as water towers and on main lines water troughs in the track are no longer to be had in addition to the issue of finding decent coal.
is the hep knackered again ...
At least she was out again yesterday unlike the Duchess tomorrow!
I saw this at Slough this morning on the 5th march at 07:40. I didn't expect it to go faulty.
Sadly these things happen from time to time.
@@HenrysAdventures yea I agree! I also subscribed to you! 😎😁👍🏻
@@universaltrainsstudio8534 Thank you very much! :)
@@HenrysAdventures No worries! 👍🏻👍🏻😁😎😎
It's a real shame to see Britain's most famous steam engine in a situation like this.
Sadly these things happen very occasionally!
It wouldn't happen with Pendennis Castle. 😛
Hope she is ok. I donated in memory of my late hubby who was a steam train buff. Keep going old girl.❤️❤️❤️
@@lesleybenson8794 You'll be pleased to know she was out again yesterday and performed faultlessly!
@@HenrysAdventures thank you for letting me know. I’m very fond of her.❤️❤️😘
SO what actually happened? Why did it stop? Perhaps you could add this important info to the video. Did it run out of water? Could they not add water at Slough? Did something break?
The coal wasn't good enough quality to generate the required heat.
Worcester to Paddington? Should have used a Castle!
Should have built a replica & then plinthed it after a cosmetic restoration - been a lot cheaper on the public purse.
So much good money thrown after bad over the decades.
My thoughts exactly. How much of the loco is original? Reminds me of Triggers broom.
@@DavidJones-wx4im - probably just the main frames - I don't think anyone knows for certain. I did read somewhere that even the namplates are not original.
@@pedantik actually they are, most of the frames area original, the wheels, and the cab.
Great footage!!
Thank you!
Tuesday 29th March 2022. Hello everybody. What happened to the passengers at Slough
There were only a few going to London Paddington and they all caught the next service train at no extra cost.
Have I missed something? At what point did the Flying Scotsman go bang?
I think it’s a term used to loosely imply it’s gone pop. Bang. Broken down.
Watch the video and you'll see its a play on words.
What bang, its bad enough when bad press hype nothing
There were three bangs!
Great one, Henry!
Thank you!
Great to see what happened after we left.....
Thank you for watching!
aww i hoped that she still had the LNER livery and the 4472 number
There as no plans for her to go back to 4472 just yet.
Something illogical there. Safeties are feathering, snifting valves can be heard as can the air pump. Fire should not have been dirty and the smokebox shows no signs of excess heat. Wonder what her boiler pressure was. Could it have been priming or an injector failed? With all the bookings I can understand they will be very tight lipped, but didn't that 47 sound beautiful as she took the strain. Anyone notice the headlamp was still on the kettle?
I agree the 47 did sound good as she departed. We were told it was bad quality coal not giving enough heat!
@@HenrysAdventures funny how other locos manage ok, and with "inferior" exhaust arrangements.
@@joshuachapman1335 your talking to someone who has spent a life time around all types of steam powered machinery, working them, restoring them, and now building them, not to mention the same amount of time studying them, in particular LNER locomotives.
The point I was trying to make (possibly a little too tounge in cheek) was that the reason behind the NRM choosing to keep the double kylchap exhaust is yo allow her to burn inferior coals more easily, yet that has proven to not be the case of late, whilst other locos that by design are considered to have a inferior design of exhaust arrangement manage. A Gresley locomotive, even with a double kylchap exhaust needs very careful fire management, and if you get that wrong you will soon stop steaming. Pervious to slough Scotsman was reported to have had a good run, so I wonder if a change of crews occurred before this issue arrived. Pressure wise, assuming the air pump requires the same minimum pressure as the vacuum, its around 110psi, which is not a lot of cop to pull a train.
Coal is a issue that is only going to get worse with a short sighted government blaming it for the issues that are coursed by civil aviation and mass motor transport, and the likes of those (especially in the HRA) who seam opposed to a little bit of black smoke and the determination to tell people coal is bad, when it is not, with the failure to educate people that a majority of any carbon produced through coal burning falls back to earth as carbon particles, whilst emissions of jet aircraft are pumped directly into the atmosphere as refined co2 particulates. I am afraid the HRA have lost my support of their current actions of educating people wrongly that Smokey coal is bad. They put all their eggs in one basket only for them to get dashed (or should that be scrambled). I had a batch of Scottish coal last year for my engines, and I rate that better than welsh (as have lots of clinkering issues with this over the years) for my engines. Several chaps I know with traction engines currently sware by Columbian coal, but again the HRA don't like this because of smoke issues. The E coal that is being much championed, despite the write ups, I have been told by my friend who was firing and driving on the BVR that day, is "ok" but the instant the regulator is shut the blower needs to be wound "fully" open or the fire goes dead, which means its not a lot of cop to me. Two shows we do, we get supplied smokeless ovals. they get saved for the house fire.
It maybe a study into the drafting arrangement's on locos such as Tornado (yes I know she has a larger grate area and superior superheating) maybe required to see if modifications can be made to overcome this issue before Scotsman gets a worse reputation than she has now for failing on the mainline, and a fussiness over coal. Any other loco would now be getting shunned with the number of failures she has had over the last couple of years.
Interesting day out Henry.
Thank you!
Great video, that’s what I call the failing Scotsman
She's go so many names! Not all good!
@@HenrysAdventures - including Flying Money Pit.
Oh dear she's failed again typical Scotsman great video 😀😀😀😀
Thank you for watching! :)
Fun fact it’s flying Scotsman’s 100th birthday!
I could be wrong wasn't its official build date 1923?
@@alanlocke2070 correct it was built in 1923 this time next year it will be 100 years old
Yeah 2023
What were the bangs?
47804 setting off detonators!
Shame you couldn’t see the pressure gauge. Aren’t the safety valves just starting to lift, or is that just a bit of a leak?
The sifting valve was steaming all day.
Just a slight leak.
Is anyone actually joining or leaving at Slough?
Just leaving!
I thought rail tours normally have a Dirty Diesel on the back , just in case this type of thing happens ??
More commonly the Dirty Diesel is for reverses where there's no facility to run round and "turn" the Steam engine . Rail Tours London Hastings via Eastbourne always hauled by rear Diesel Eastbourne-Hastings for that reason .
Usually the diesel is for the reverse moves but with this tour to Worcester I've never seen it run with a diesel on the rear as the steam loco can do all the shunting at Worcester.
@@davidturquand4342 Thank you for the reply .
Can someone explain what actually happened
The diesel drive over some rail detonators. These are usually used to help warn locomotives of trouble on the tracks uo ahead of them
She failed due to bad quality coal.
Drove past that train at twyford on my going home train. Glad it failed at slough and not Twyford
What was the Flying Scotsman even doing at slough?
She had taken passengers on an excursion to Worcester!
@@HenrysAdventures ah that makes sense. I used to live quite close to Slough and never once saw it.
What happened to the Royal Caledonian? Does it still live?
There's the Caledonian Sleeper. That still runs!
why didnt they build the steam back up?
It would have blocked the line for to long. Maybe if it was at Reading where there's a lot more platforms that might have been possible!
Do you know what went bang, last time I was behind her, the injectors gave up at Oxford, eventually arrived Paddington 3 hours late
I'm told bad quality coal mean she didn't have enough steam to haul the train. There was of course the detonators to!
What a shame. So near and yet so far...
Short on steam. Was the fire out? No water? That seems unlikely reason for the engine not to be able to move.
It seems she was short of steam and the coal wasn't the best quality.
Well at least the few passengers still on board had some decent traction for the last few miles to Paddington.
I can see the train pulling out and then stop and go again
I wonder why that was!
I believe the track denotes have gone off
I never understood why they put detonators on the track 🤔🤔
To act as a warning!
i wonder if it will be the bad coal thing again
That's what I understand it was!
@@HenrysAdventures I wonder if the "bad coal" started to become a issue when a different fireman got on the shovel? Seams she had a good day until then.
Always going bang that loco lol! I saw it at Grantham last summer and it broke down at Retford due to the same reason as this one.
I remember that day! I was on the train and we had to wait a while for 47772 to come and rescue us!
@@HenrysAdventures yes I'm assuming you were on it?
@@trainspotter208 Yes, I was!
The train will be fine what do you expect at her age when we get that old we are breaking down she will be back I'm sure very soon if these modern trains last as long I'm a Dutchman have more faith she will be going in twenty years time
I agree with you! I can't see some of this modern plastic rubbish being around when they're 99 years old!
That's a bit alarmist........
And who is Florence Kitchen ?
Strange question!
I thought Flying Scotsman was 4472?
That's her LNER Number, she's currently running under her BR No. 60103.
@@HenrysAdventures Ok. Thanks👍
She really needs an overhaul. If this keeps on happening, she could get damaged
She's due for an overhaul shortly.
@@HenrysAdventures hope she goes well in her overhaul and I hope she returns from overhaul in her LNER Apple Green
@@will_levitt926 The NRM had said she's staying as 60103 post overhall.
@@HenrysAdventures ok
Go flying Scotsman
I guess its time to build a replica A1/3, paint it blue and call it "Gordon" to give Flying Scotsman a well deserved break.
St that point might as well build a replica e2, k2, pacific prototype, and l&yr class 28 with an extended running board and bogey.