Analysis of Netflix Night Stalker Documentary | Why Were Women Attracted to Richard Ramirez?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the Netflix docuseries: The Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer? Why were so many women attracted to Richard Ramirez?
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I did see people complaining that this series was was too graphic and that it shouldn't have included crime scene photos, and to those people, I would suggest that maybe true crime isn't their cup of tea.
So true you have to be able to stomach the stuff and it's very hard but I like to know what I could be coming in contact with or to help someone else if they're coming in contact with a potential person that can harm them in any way I need to know for the sake of myself and others, great comment stay safe
People SHOULD see what this psycho did to other human beings and then they might not find him so attractive. I hate this popularity that serial killers get. It’s disturbing and grotesque.
No I don't think there's a problem with people not wanting to see the graphic crime scene photos. However I think its good that Netflix offers the raw uncensored documentaries for those of us who do.
It's all the sensitive cry baby types. This is real life and real life is scary and fucked up. Who needs movies when reality is more terrifying?
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One incongruity I found at odds was the reporting of Ramirez’s dad’s cruel punishment of tying him to a tombstone and making him sleep in a cemetery and then later imploring defense attorneys to take his son’s case. Yes, the doc should have covered more personal background.
There was also an uncle or cousin who showed him photos of Vietnamese women he had raped and decapitated during the war. This same relative shot his wife point-blank in the face in front of a young Richard Ramirez.
@@majorkade maybe ricardo idolized said relative and did the same thing
@@supremeperson6866 True. No telling.
@@majorkade that is really something they should have focused upon, not some journalists or police officers
They focused on the detectives because it was about their hunt for him,their story.
Director: we won’t make him look special
Documentary: “Satan Worshipper, he can walk through walls, incredibly unique man in every way possible”
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Maybe those women were attracted to his actual physical appearance. A lot of people overlook negative traits of a person because of their physical features.
This.
Have you seen his teeth? Maybe if he never opened his mouth he'd look okay but he was very boney with horrible teeth and they said smelled like a dead animal. Women don't find that attractive
@@mysteryjunkie9808 when he went to jail, he cleaned up and got healthier, that’s when he got all his groupies. It’s not that hard to understand
Women "waaayy more"
He is not very attractive.
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Ah, I think I see your problem.
You would rank high for agreeableness
I have noticed it is a very common trend to leave out how these people were raised and what happened in their childhood, cause for whatever reason, so many people don't seem to realize nor understand just how much your early childhood and how you grow up shapes you. No, they much rather just believe in the stupid idea that all of these people were just born as this pure evil monster.
Edit: Acknowledging how you raise your kids is what shapes them when they grow up is not the same as excusing ones actions. Many people today still believe kids don't have any rights, parents buying their 8 year olds 18+ games, letting them watch R rated movies, many who beat their kids and disguise it as punishment, and more. Yes, most kids aren't going to grow up and become serial killers, however, it does mental scar them and does in some way shape or form mold them. Human brains do not fully develop until mid to late 20s. That last part of the brain is the frontal lobe, which is in charge or critical thinking, judgement, etc. Yet, people still refuse to acknowledge how damaging something can be to a kid, like going to go see a graphic R rated movie.
I think it's rather that they don't want it to seem that they're excusing the crimes in any sense. You can end up in a rabbit-hole, e.g: bad parenting created a killer, the bad parenting came from their own harsh upbringing, which was the result of a crappy childhood etc. back through time. Nobody is responsible for their own choices and actions - everything is always somebody else's fault.
When did this trend start? Most of these shows would always go deep into the killers backgrounds.
I noticed that too and glad I'm not the only that sees it.
Exactly, it's more exciting to believe in demons and monsters. It's disgusting, I agree. We've known the impact of early trauma for over a hundred years but people still don't get it or don't care. 👍👍👍
@ Klaus D. EXACTLY right my friend!!! Serial killer or not, *Who we all are* goes back to our childhoods. It is *SO* important!
Evil is MADE. not born.
"why are women attracted to serial killer so-and-so?"
because he was physically attractive. i can happily acknowledge that Bundy was hot and also that he was a terrible person. it really isn't that complicated
@designerwaterbottle Bundy and Ramirez are both dead. i'm not really sure who's still writing them love letters, unless you believe in the power of Ouija boards
but seriously, people who acknowledge that serial killers are terrible despite being physically attractive aren't the ones writing them love letters. it's the ones who can't really come to terms with their attraction to someone who's terrible, so they convince themselves that the serial killer must actually be misunderstood and in need of saving, or that he's actually innocent
@designerwaterbottle "send them mail constantly." i mentioned Bundy, and Ramirez is the subject of the video
if you want to nitpick, then your initial response was useless because i literally wasn't talking about "fans" of serial killers. i was merely referring to people who found some serial killers, like Bundy or Ramirez, to be physically attractive
@designerwaterbottle i was only speaking about attraction
No, it definitely is more complicated than that. I guarantee you Richard Ramirez was getting significantly less attention from the opposite sex before his arrest than compared to after his arrest. There is more to it than physical appearance.
@@CallsignJoNay yeah, being highly visible due to fame or notoriety. it's a numbers game. i'd wager the percentage was still rather small
I thought that documentary was okay. It seemed a little too cinematic. I don't know why so many people thought it was too gruesome.
It should have been "The Cops who chased The Night Stalker".
Yes. Better for Discovery ID, than Netflix.
I agree. It really focused too much on the detectives, their lives and their feelings during the catch and it was a little boring in my opinion.
to be fair, i think it would have helped had there been a disclaimer. just because some people who are into true crime will watch the documentary doesn't mean _all_ people are. not everyone will be ready to see the photos that were shown in that show.
@@k_a_y_l_e_e That's fair. I've seen so many horrible things on crime shows that I'm completely jaded. I'm the SNL skit!
@@Metonymy1979 lmao same xD
I’m really glad those little kids didn’t have to testify but imagine being one of those women in the audience who was attracted to Ramirez and you see a six year old child take the stand and describe the horrible things he’s done to her. Something about hurting kids, the elderly and other vulnerable victims is just so sickening. How can you admire him when you see his victims?! 🤢
I think most of his groupies denied that he might be guilty, just like that woman who married him while he was in prison. It was only years later after they found DNA evidence that matched with one of his early child rapes, that she actually divorced him. And it was the same with Ted Bundy. I remember those interviews with his groupies back then who supported his innocence (and he also ended up marrying one of them while in prison). They like the image of bad boys and their notoriety but refuse to accept their crimes.
@VannyG yeah, but she never believed it until DNA evidence came years later. That's when she divorced him. I've read about her case. She was very delusional.
@VannyG I think all these women that have hybristophilia are in denial and don't want to accept the reality. In one way they are fascinated about these "bad boys", but at the same time they don't want to accept the fact that these serial killers are beyond saving. So they have this fantasy that they could "save" the killers if they had the chance. Judging by interviews with serial killers' groupies.
Women who are attracted to him and other serial killer are just as sick as he is. Disgusting
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I think the women were attracted primarily because he was a very attractive man. I'd guess none of them would think much of BTK, for example.
This. His looks and youth had a lot to do with it. I get a lot of shit for pointing it out. Where were John Wayne Gacy's groupies for example? Surely it had everything to do with it?
@@spiritanimal8836 but it can't be the whole reason because people liked charles manson. even jeffrey dahmer had girl groupies and he was gay?? lmao ramirez is the only attractive one out of any of the ones who had groupies so it makes sense that he had the most but can't be the only reason
Actually BTK killed when he was younger and he was really good looking. People picture this old guy we see now that was doing that, but no. It was a great looking young guy. And i bet that helped him gaing peoples trust. Just google "BTK young" or something similar.
@@weiirdOzdotFU Definitely not the only reason. Yes, Jeffrey was gay but his looks attracted the girls as you said. So sexual orientation regardless, looks attract. 🤷
Ya i met a girl i wont say her name she knew him wrote letters they corresponded and were good friends zikes
Great analysis. A note on the theories about hybristophilia - does anyone else think that attraction to a serial killer could be based on one's perceived 'specialness'? Like, fantasizing that a killer would pursue a relationship with them WITHOUT harming them because their bond would be so powerful?
Yup, these people often think that they would be the exception to these killers or that they can change them. It's an incredibly toxic mentality.
hm, that's a good theory, I agree
Hey good point🙂
Someone should ask them. Take a poll, then we'd know, instead of guessing.
@@cherrylane6505 Won't work. What women say they want, and what they actually want are always two different things.
The answer to that question is.... he was tall and had amazing bone structure.
Yes.
But those teeth 🤢
It’s unbelievable to see the girls attend the trials of Bundy, The Night Stalker and the Hillside Stranglers. Maybe they found it exciting in the safety of the courtroom but if they were alone with them it would probably be a different story.
He talked about Hybristophilia in this video.
@Abundant Places I've read extensively on hybristophilia. The sexual excitement and attraction in response to serious crimes. Very interesting.
The worse part about that is... It requires them to literally know and think about his crimes, like they are putting themselves into that awareness and still being cunts
To those that have paranormal experiences try having him speak into your mind .. sorry.. don't do that on purpose.. I'm Christian.
Just know there's people seeing them and experiencing them still.
You can find spirit box sessions.
Please pray for him.
He believed in Jesus clearly. He was misguided.
Some people get really mad if you love (in their mind) enemy.
We battle not against flesh and blood. There's spirits. He probably had a few.
I don't know him but I was really interested and he was a extremely hurt child. That's not right ever to a kid. Infanticide is a new word I learned not long ago.
At some point his parents should have been held accountable.
@@Saints_ravenfortheRainbowI agree. He clearly believed in Jesus, which is easy to spot if you're actually taking in all the information available about him. As misguided as he was, he was still a child of God and deserving of his mercy. God knows all things about a person and I pray for Richard's soul, that he may have the peace he was never granted while living on this earth.
The lack of analysis on how criminals were raised -- the factors that influenced them to commit crimes -- is often the main criticism I have when watching true crime (particularly on RUclips). In addition to honoring & finding justice for victims, shouldn't the goal of true crime be to educate? There are many lessons to be learned from every perpetrator -- for all of us.
Bailey sarian here on RUclips likes to talk about the background of serial killer
There is an ID show that focused on upbringing. One featured an arsonist whose family indulged him and allowed him to abuse his sister. He almost tried to kill his younger sibling pushing him down the stairs and his parents lost their business as a result. It was harsh
Stephanie Harlowe does deep dives into upbringings
Well stated.
I'm amazed at how dismissive Dr.'s have been for decades AFTER definitive proof that Traumatic Brain Injuries change not only the brains Physiology, but also impulse control, and many other symptoms( effects) from that. The phrase "Were you dropped on your head as a kid?"..did not just start out as a joke, there is definite causal relationship to extreme swings in mood, developmental problems, and a whole host of other issues.
"The murder part, which usually spoils all the fun." Spoken with such deadpan... lol. Thanks.
lmao!
🤣🤣🤣 boy that part took me out!! These silly women laden with sin would have been gone girl
“Women who score higher on sociopathy tend to be attracted to men who are sociopathic.”
Me obsessed with Ramirez hair and jawline: “Well shit.”
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I'm not diagnosing Satan in this video. On speculating what could be happening in a situation like this. 👿
I think women were attracted to him because they seek the broken man who they believe they can fix. Also they enjoying being a part of the lime light. They get attention through him.
Lbr, hygiene issues aside, the man looks like he easily could have been a runway model with those cheekbones.
He looked handsome in some pictures, but also dangerous. Of course a person who has grown up the way he did and took drugs, is a totally different person. He said in an interview that he felt very powerful. Drugs can make people feel that way. That energy can be sensed. It might seem a good one but it is actually fake, of course.
If a man is energetic, he might seem strong and be more attractive.
However, I guess he felt very detached from the lives of other people. He didn't have anything of what they had. He also stated in an interview that he didn't care about his life. This really showed how detached he was.
I think any 'normal' human, male or female, would feel the need to help. Life is precious! It would be a good thing, especially if it worked.
People usually see pictures of killers on TV and don't see the murder scenes and all its terrible details. This could lead to romantic phantasies.
Well, it's a pity he wasted his life and ruined the lives of so many other people. Drugs are very addictive and destroy the lives of too many.
@@sanguinehearts9373 He would have been perfect for Ru Paul's Drag Race.
@@sanguinehearts9373 tall, dark and handsome. I keep saying, so many people are taken in by looks alone.
Oddly enough, Aileen Wournos also had a seriously messed up childhood and was a serial killer. Her birthday was also leap day, February 29, 1956.
very interesting! i wasn’t aware that they shared a birthday.
Weird! Because personally I've always thought those two had very similar eyes. Shark black.
now that's a very interesting coincidence!
I’m a Pisces. feb 28 & it’s crazy to think they were Pisces
He was a Pisces sun and moon
As one of the women who are attracted to Ramirez (and no, I'm not proud of it, I just can't help it) I'm surprised by the reasons people have tried to explain this phenomenon with, or rather by the reasons they have NOT come up with. I can't speak for all women affected by this, but probably for a fairly large percentage, because this thing happens in so many regular relationships in which someone chooses a psychologically afflicted partner that's not good for them.
The reason I'm talking about is a combination of a) wanting to be the chosen one and b) fixing a broken doll. Women like me see the abused child and the shattered soul in Ramirez and want to extinguish the pain he must have felt, and we enjoy the dream that this would make us the chosen one, meaning the only girl that would win his love while he hates everybody else. Having what no-one else can have and turning the evil prince into an angel - but only for us. Same as in shitty novels like Twilight and 50 Shades Of Grey. It's pathetic and it's an old fairytale many girls fall victim to and some never get rid of.
The desire to heal outweighs the horror and disgust for the man's deeds. We imagine that if only he had been loved "correctly" before he went down the wrong path, things wouldn't have gotten so bad, which is probably quite a stupid assumption^^.
There are also women who have violent or even murderous fantasies themselves (which in most cases aren't acted out on), and they feel that Ramirez wouldn't judge them but possibly rather show understanding. Liking things you can't talk about because they'd get you cast out by your friends and loved ones and/or locked up in a psychiatric ward can make you feel alien and lonely.
Now, one might say that a person who has a desire for murder does not deserve love and friendship anyway, but I don't know if it's that easy. We don't choose the things that drive us, and having dark desires does not mean a person can't be compassionate, loving and caring.
In the case of Ramirez, outward appearance is another factor. His facial features, posture and charisma were extremely attractive. He also displayed a certain, unusual kind of elegance, and the laid-back audacity he carried himself with did the rest. He comes off as an alpha male with a very vulnerable side. That contrast is unbeatable.
I hope this sheds some more light on the the serial killer fan phenomenon. I've done a lot of critical self-reflection, I don't feel particularly smart for being enraptured by a child rapist and murderer and this thing is a psychological problem of it's own, but... well, it exists. Cheers from Germany :)
Edit: I talked about women, but naturally, other sexes and genders are affected by this as well. Didn't mean to exclude anyone.
he had a good face, strong jaw etc, that's why women were attracted to him
Perfect for Ru Paul's Drag Race!!!
He looked dirty
@@aa.4639 He was homeless drug-addict. Once he went in prison, he got cleaned, ate and bathed regularly, and was looking totally stunning.
@@lovemusicmusa How can a mass murderer ever look stunning...
@@aa.4639 he had that rock-star chic, and as someone else said, once he went to prison he got cleaned up
Lmao, the only attractive thing about Ramirez is his face. He has a calvin klein models jawline and eyes.
And he had a rocking hot bod
His eyes where like a reptiles
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That’s interesting, that these women think he’s experiencing an intense love. I always thought these women understood that he had an intense hatred for women and just fantasized that they were different/special and could change him. Like the characters in the twilight series.
Yes, and since he will always be locked up they will never have to put their fantasies to the test.
Skippy he's dead thank god.
Or like in 50 Shades of Grey....
That's my personal analysis too. This narrative sounds more plausible to me than them just simply being attracted to him because he was notorious or that he had intense desire for women.
Future suggestion: John Allen Chau, the 26-year-old US Christian missionary who was killed by the Sentinelese - one of the planet's last uncontacted tribes - after illegally travelling to North Sentinel Island (part of the Andaman archipelago in the Bay of Bengal), in order to "save" the islanders by converting them to Christianity, which God had told Chau he alone on Earth could achieve. It did _NOT_ end well!😬
That would be a good one!
that is one of the most interesting areas in the world. It's hard to deny that compared to most other isolated tribes/groups, their violent approach to outsiders has let them maintain their land and way of life. (although there are some people who successfully managed to have some interaction by giving gifts over a long period of time). . . great suggestion though
I feel kinda sorry for that guy. He seemed like he was trying to do right, and the tribesmen, who knows about their psych profiles? Very interesting story, though. And makes me curious as to how people back home reacted or if anyone took any responsibility in encouraging him to do something so dangerous.
The crazy part to me is that even if they’re not aware of it, their aggressive approach to outsiders could be the only reason why they haven’t been wiped out by disease. Even if the outsiders don’t mean harm, being exposed to their germs could be the end of them.
"It did not end well"
Are you citing Nuke's Top 5?
The story wasn’t just about profiling Ramirez. It was the reaction to him from those who were living it. Humanizing the two detectives wasn’t a failure of the documentary in my opinion. Even the members of the press had positive things to say about them. I like how they pointed out the failures that ultimately cost lives. Egos and ambition seemed to be more important than duty to the citizenry for some.
I was disappointed in the series. Not only did they make it seem like everything was supernaturally evil, they didnt discuss the depth of the trauma he went through that made him into a killer. They focused so much on the police and detectives trying to understand him but very little on ACTUALLY understanding him. The series was poorly executed in my opinion. I also think they went a bit too far showing some of the bodies, like the one where the head was beaten and tons of blood was shown around it. They only censored a small area. It seems so unnecessary. Pictures of the blood is one thing, but the whole body surrounded in blood just felt so out of place of the context of the show
Everyone is entitled to an opinion 🤷🏽♂️
I agree but it was still very interesting to watch.
I’m watching it now and I agree with your comment
then don’t watch series about killers if you can’t handle crime scene photos
His cousin was a big influence in his life.
Unfortunately
His brothers too. One showed him where and how to burglarize homes in the LA area
@@jackedkerouac4414 you read a book about him too...
And his brother in law- the peeping tom.
I wish the series talked about that
I thought it was awful, it felt more like a story about two detectives , they didn’t even show any interviews ....big missed opportunity
I was 10 years old at the time Richard Ramirez was on his killing spree and we lived not far from some of his victims. Man my poor mom was so scared...as was I. When he was caught the sigh of relief felt was huge!
He had incredible bone structure and could have been a model that is why women were attracted to him.
Apparently his teeth were something else though...
@@phoenixdavida8987 Very true!
I've excellent bone structure.
Lose some weight and youre gonna discover that you have an "incredible bone structure" aswell lmao
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Probably because he was an attractive looking guy ,though pure evil
Dr. Grande, I totally agree with your assessment. Spot on. In almost four hours they probably spent ten minutes actually talking about Richard Ramirez. They could have easily spent an hour or more talking about his history... But they didn't. A total letdown.
The minute you mentioned it last week, I sat and watched the whole series! You're an influencer!
I’m already shopping for thinner rectangle frame glasses and relaxed fit button down shirts.
@@catchtwenty22 Same
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Trying to grow facial hair. It's just not working. 😆
Ramirez is what happens when the ultimate “I’m not like the other girls” tool becomes addicted to porn and bath salts...
@JV Harbin right. I don’t get it.
Tool. Porn. Bath Salts. How did you know how I spent my Saturday? Are you one of those Jesus sparks or something?
lol. Funny, but true. 😆
@JV Harbin it was the bath salts
This series was ok but I didn't enjoy it as much as "The Staircase" or "Don't F**k with Cats" on Netflix. Just for the record I want to state that, no matter how attractive, I just can't wrap my head around the concept that some women find him desirable. I mean, he's a *serial killer*! Hellooo!
Nor can I, but, some people just can't get past their eyes.
The 'don't f*ck with cats" documentary was messed up, the killer apparently loved that it was made. it totally glorified him.
You're cute, sunshine!
Loved the "Don't F**k with Cats", now I am looking forward to watching "The Staircase" that I have been putting off for a while. 👌
The Netflix series was sort of a missed opportunity: instead of focusing on the investigation and making the 2 detectives into the heroes of the story (even though they weren't the ones who found out Richard Ramirez's name OR apprehended him in the end), the series could've spent some of those 4 hours on explaining Richard's mental health, motivations, and delve more deeply into the information he gave in interviews after his arrest. Would've been far more interesting to learn about why he did what he did.
Agreed.
To spend 4 hours on the reason why he did it, would have created sympathy for a man who doesn't deserve it. There are countless people who went through TRAUMATIC childhoods and they dont have those tendencies, hes more of an anomaly. The fact of the matter is, he did the things he did because he felt like he COULD.
@@gio_graphy imo, that way of thinking is quite lazy. It’s not about sympathy it’s about painting the full picture. RR childhood sounded like hell and I do pity young RR simply because he was a child and he had no other choice but to be raised in dysfunction and extreme abuse. I don’t think life is always so black and white.
@@sashao.1534 my feelings exactly.
I 100% agree with you!
I'm glad you mentioned the amount of time spent on the detectives instead of a more in-depth analysis of Richard Ramirez. In particular, I disliked Gil's humble bragging throughout the course of the series. Loved the hairdresser/accountant comment!
He was a good looking guy. Tall, strong jaw, nice hair. I think it’s pretty simple. If you didn’t know he was a murderer, you might think he was attractive, and people usually give attractive folks a lot more leeway and trust when they shouldn’t. Women weren’t writing to John Wayne Gacy or the other ugly killers.
Exactly. He was honestly a gorgeous young man on the outside and a demon on his inside.
100% agree! I wanted to know far more about the history of his life and how that shaped his mental health. I think it's about time we are open to learning about these minds and to stop putting it down to "they're just pure evil". Thank you for covering this Dr. Grande 🙏
They needed to include Ramirez's backstory, because that is the fact that makes him interesting as a serial killer. He was totally groomed to become one.
Hi Dr. Grande.
As a woman, and please excuse the sexist comment, I can tell you why women were attracted to RR: he was physically beautiful. When he transformed into his "courtroom rock star", he became unbelievably seductive and confident.
Of course, not speaking for all women, but as you mentioned, it would be as if he were an actor portraying a part instead of a defendant himself.
Also, and I think this is overlooked, the time between his killings, capture, and finally trial took a while and the impact of horror had ceased.
That's at least my honest point of view. Even tho he is now dead, he is still an image of a ghostlike Mayan warrior: tall, dark, and exotic.
I could go on and on.
Thank you for your work. I look forward to your opinions.
I too felt disappointed that more about Ramirez childhood was not included, as well as more mental health info. Always enjoy your thoughts Dr Grande! Thanks a lot. ♥️✌🏽
I agree with you about missing info, Dr. Grande.
I was expecting at least 8 episodes. Kind of a let down 👎
There are numerous videos and a book on R. Ramirez upbringing. The Netflix documentary wanted to bring the child victims/survivors stories which is not usually explored. Prayers and healing to all the victims and their families. Love the shirt Dr. Grande.
I snorted out my almond milk when you brought Armie Hammer and Hilaria Baldwin into it 😅
I halt eating and drinking at the halfway mark, just for that reason!😂😂😂
I was hoping they would go more into his background, because there's no way someone this disturbed just exist. I ended up reading about his history and MY GOD. It seemed like his family did everything possible to ensure he would be this monster.
The detectives should have had nothing to do with this show because they were irrelevant to the case altogether, ramirez was caught by the people not by the police....
It doesn't matter how he was caught or who caught him. The detectives told the story from their perspective because they sacrificed so much time away from their families trying to track him down.
What? That makes no sense. The people would not have caught him without the hard work of the detectives putting together the evidence and identifying the criminal.
After seeing the series and reading up on Ramirez, I keep wondering if he was sexually abused as a child. I know he was brought up in a strict religious home and served as an altar boy. If he was sexually abused as a child, maybe by a priest or maybe shrugged off by his religious parents , I feel it could explain him "becoming a satanist". As it would be the opposite of what stood for his parents/ the church. I found it interesting that he did not seem to have felt any remorse with killing his victims, but he did sexually abuse children and let them go. I could not find anything about this though.
I thought about this too.
I also find it interesting that children were sexually abused but ultimately released instead of killed by Richard. People point out that he killed Mei Leung, but that was never proven. His DNA was at the scene but there was another person's DNA as well and he was never convicted. I think he had pity on the children he abused, because he had been one himself.
Just finished watching the series yesterday. This video pointed out perfectly the things that were bothering me. I enjoy way more on Dr. Grandes' style of explaining the background and interesting points without nonsense or dramatisation. And always, with pinch of irony.
Started off as Mr. Big and became Dr. Grande.
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They were attracted to his looks... don't think it went much deeper than that. Women also tend to flock after men with a bad boy vibe. It's why the worst behaved rock stars still have quite a lot of groupies.
Ouu I’ve been waiting for this one, thanks Dr. G!😎
Was dying to hear your take on this!!
Oh, he saved you then.
I was disappointed when they started talking about his childhood, and then they stopped... like they didn’t want to explain his past? Anyway, I don’t mind the photos, they say it all.
Keep posting, Dr. Grande! You are the best!
I am curious about his mom....she failed to nurture him at most critical times. I think she neglected him.
maybe, but if even she did nurture him he was (allegedly) tortured by his father and traumatized when he saw his cousin shoot his wife in the face. Don't think we can blame the mother in this case.
@@veronikabelina3188 very true !
My day isn’t complete without your show. It takes me completely out of my own head and gives me something of substance to chew on. Plus.... you are so funny. Who knew?
Thanks for everything.❤️
Excellent as always, Dr Grande! Thank you so much!
Always feels good to watch Grande.
Dr. Grande's fashion is interesting these days.
The coral color shirt must mean something. Dr. Grande wants to go on vacation to Florida maybe?
Real men wear apricot! Thank you for the interesting and educational vides, Dr Todd!
Dr Grande: Can you please do a series of videos speculating about the aspirations of Robert Downey's hairdresser? 😂
Yes!😄
And do that OCEAN thing on him, too.
Thanks, Doc
OhGod! Hairdressers have grandiose notions of being, "the Artiste!" Like any other vocation, some, perhaps, possibly are, but, most others... butcher's.
Had a girl tell me she 'loved' Richard Ramirez recently. It was surreal.
Been waiting for this one! 💜I agree they should have explained at least some of the mental health aspects of his behavior. As always thank you for your analysis Dr Grande!
I didn't love this series! I was excited to watch it, but it fell flat for me. I feel like the main detectives on the task force, Salerno and Carrillo, really talked themselves up. However, imo, they failed poorly! That missed opportunity at the dentist was unforgivable. Then they didn't want to release any information to the public, luckily they were forced to and the public is who was able to catch and detain him!
You shouldnt check out the "Yorkshire Ripper" doc then 😂 Took them 5 years and I had already figured out his job halfway through the doc lol
@@gio_graphy Lol I may check it out on a day I am feeling very patient
If serial killers put work in positive things rather than murder, they would all be fantastic people...
No shit
@@MrDpbazan1955 Your rude comment isn't needed, thank you.
@@reignman1328 you are more than welcome
He has dark hair , high cheekbones, strong jawline. Women luv this features.
I am starting to recognize Dr Grande's shirts: diagnosis = addiction to this channel :)
and fully agree with the analysis ...it was out of the scene not behind the scene !
Great shirt. I’m more excited about this one than usual. Now almost one million!!!! Way to go Dr.Grande. Your hard work has paid off.
I would have also liked to see and know more of Ramirez’ formation years and family life. It’s not enough to portray the why he was a monster but how he became a monster. Dr. Grande, thank you for providing a summary of Ramirez’ extensive trauma during his formative years. One can only wish he had received the mental health help he needed as a child and hoped it would have been to bettering his life choices and outcomes.
Dr. Grande what's your secret for doing all this research and synthesizing everything into such interesting and well-organized videos EVERY DAY
I agree that it was a missed opportunity for a study into his psychology considering the unusual aspects of his behavior. It was only hinted at in a scene where a detective was speculating that the killer actually alerted his victims to his presence prior to him killing them so that he could see the look of terror on their faces A good character study would have done more to expose the sheer depravity in which he acted in committing his crimes.
Thank you for covering this! I just finished watching the show last night and was shocked as all get out.
I watched the show last night. I agree, the hammer and blood was excessive and unnecessary.
I do not understand anyone attracted to someone who murdered so many people. Who says he won’t kill you as well? I hear some of these women have the savior complex and think they can change him to become “normal “. As of that was his only problem.
I think part of the attraction is that the women KNOW he will never get out, and so is safe.
I enjoyed the series. I appreciated the backstory on the investigating officers .
I do agree with Dr Grande regarding the lack of information‘backstory’ on Ramirez . I kept thinking what made him this way? There’s got to be more to the story.
Excellent. Thank you Dr Grande.
Hello doctor, good points. I just would add to the last question you cover - about the motivation of women - that people, no matter if they are male or female, try to expand their own self by entering into relationships with others. Basically, they search for someone who has what they rather lack. Since women have to suppress their normal aggressive tendencies from an early age on, they tend to search and encourage this in males. So they can live out this in an indirect way. This is quite an intelligent strategy, because you can live out aggression without having direct consequences of it (feelings of guilt, fear of punishment etc.) One often can whitness this tendencies in mothers of boys, too, this secret shine in their eyes when they whitness their sons behaving in a tough way. I don't find this to be a great characteristic of females, but it sure exists.
First I would like to thank you for sharing with us that you were watching/planning a video on this series, this way I could watch it beforehand:)
In my opinion, missing RR at the dentist office was just unbelievable! 🤦🏻♀️
Your thoughts on the series are extremely insightful, again you left no stone unturned. The way you described his childhood/background was so comprehensive, way more than what was presented in the series.
Superb analysis Dr. Grande, thank you!❤️
Thank you for adding the facts of his childhood. Really makes a difference knowing more background.
Good analysis, dr. Grande. I agree with your thoughts.
Thank you Todd once again.. That colour shirt looks really good on you, an me thinks so you should wear it more...
Appreciate your time once again 🙋♀️ Indie
Hey doc, you are distracting me from college!!! keep up the good work! Love the new background! Can't wait for the next video x
"They could do away with the murder part, which usually spoils all the fun..." I'm deadd!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Incidentally, I put this video on my Facebook group, Mindhunter (Netflix) Fans. Earlier this week, I posted an article about this documentary that is of the opinion that it's too graphic. So maybe your analysis will spark further debate, Dr. Grande. There's only 8,000 members, worldwide but I hope maybe you will get a few more followers. You deserve as much. 💕👏👏👏
Not really fun or funny for the victims or their families though was it.
@@ONLYLOVEIZATION no one was laughing at the victims, but the groupies, yes.
My ex-fiancé looked almost identical to Richard Ramirez it’s pretty traumatic.
I have an ex who bore a resemblance to Dahmer, sans the glasses. Lawdy!
Was he Mexican like Ramirez? If he is who knows maybe he is related to him.
I totally agree with your analysis. I think it was helpful that I had watched your video on Richard Ramirez before watching the Netflix series so I was already familiar with a lot of the background on him.
That scene where Ramirez was freaked out by sparks coming out of a dying victim? That was mentioned in early case reports.
It was mentioned in the book that was written about him with his help.
Yes I will never forget that part of the book he got spooked when it happened, that was Whitney Benett the 16 year old girl that he beat with the tire iron, he said it was like a purplelish mist was hovering above her head he said it was her spirit getting out of her body
He was a drug addict so hallucinations could well have been a factor here
Dr. Grande, Richard Ramirez was simply very good looking, and had a certain charisma. If he weren't psychopathic, a killer, and had vocal ability, he could've very well been a rock star. It's so hard, and sad to realize that his good looks and bad boy charm covered a deadly human being. He is really a puzzle.
I agree with Dr. G."s analysis of the Netflix series and of Rameriz. He left out two things about Rameruz though: Richard was good looking and had sex appeal and would generally have been attractive irregardless of what he did. He looked like a rick star.
Like Jim Morrison!
I just watched the series. You are right, it was more about the overall investigation and the police work done and the personalities of the police officers. It was okay as far as giving an overview of the case and information about the victims but it just left me hanging there when it was over. You gave way more information in this video about him than they did in their four-part series. I felt they could have had an expert in your field such as yourself to explain why he is wired the way he is and what caused him to do these things like you explained here. Thanks for your analysis of Ramirez and of this series.
Dr. Grande, you said you disliked the slow-motion blood droplets (same), but how did you feel about that UPCLOSE rat? that was an artistic choice 🤣
Oh gawd, that was really ridiculous, wasn’t it??!! 😒😂
I loved the sound of the rat licking his lips. Very ASMR.
@@mcd5478 it was! I couldn't help but laugh
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Sadly we lived this terrorizing nightmare! I had 4 children under 10 at the time living in Orange County California. Ramirez put fear in every family we knew. We slept all together in our living room for months along with other families doing the same. Then his mug shot hit. He was on the run. Then one day , he decided to mess with the East Los Angels Barrio, by trying to steal a pregnant woman’s car right down the street of our bathing suit sewing factory. BIG MISTAKE. Our brave neighborhood and employees beat Ramirez until he cried like a little girl. Mr Tough guy wasn’t so tough when the ELA macho hero’s starting plummeting him. Between Ramirez and the ex cop DeAngelo golden state killer who WAS the original night stalker, nobody in California was in a safe zone. A big bravo to the brave men who captured that evil incarnate monster, and eventually DeAngelo was finally caught after 44 years. Great job on your analysis Dr Grande. Love your work
Another good analysis Dr. Grande. I also think women were attracted to him because he is a good-looking man.
Yet again Dr. Grande thanks a bunch for nailing some excellent evaluation on the filmmaking process, especially with leaving unnecessary story elements out. You'd think after watching drafts of the work themselves they would have copped it. Maybe the filler is purely to flesh out the running time making what could be a decent piece of work revert into another typical one .
It helped that Ramirez got those Rockstar looks in prison.