Midwest Industries has a front sight rail that clamshells on and is rock solid. running it for years, gets the light a little farther forward and no shift in zero. 33$ on some sites google the model number MCTAR-01G2
I purchased an Elzetta FSB light mount probably close to 15 years ago. It mounts in minutes and is extremely durable. I’ve ran it on my bushmaster xm15 A2 carbine.
On a non-free-floated barrel, the shooter has more effect on barrel harmonics than anything else. There are picatinny rail-mounts for the front-sight-post that work well. If you want to shoot good groups with your rifle, brace off the front of the magazine-well without touching the fore-end on anything at all. What you brace against has a lot to do with it too, the more rigid the better; i.e. something immoveable like concrete or steel imbedded in the ground.
After dealing with a number of tape switches that stopped working, I switched to the more simplistic light setup like you’re running. I bought a couple of those Magpuls when they first came out and used them on issue carbines with quad rails. They worked great. Still using one minus the rings on a personal with a free float quad to mount a Scout Light 600L that I wouldn’t have otherwise bought except that the price was too right. Activating the Scout with the butt cap switch. The Magpul mount pits the light at the right height and sufficiently far enough foreword to establish a good support hand position. I’d never realized the hand guards were double heat shielded. After going with free float quads, I was a bit irritated to find that the hand guard get pretty hot closer to the gas block making gloves a necessity for anything more than a few rounds. Having watched your previous video, I now wonder how much of a difference the free float really makes when trying to make small, tight groups at 100 from a supported position.
The Magpul handguards are a really solid choice as well for those looking to replace the rounded handguards but not go nuts on it. I bought a set for my 20' and they're really sturdy
Yep.....RIP......Most of their products were good quality.....I've had 2 of IWC mounts snap right off my rail at the same place....Tried contacting them and found out about the owner passing......I found a company in PA. Shaffer Machining. They make some of the best light mounts, red dot mounts, etc. on the market in my opinion.....Arisaka is another great company for all sorts of mounting options.....
@@PsychedelicWinter110 They were an excellent design....yes......I'll have to disagree on quality of the aluminum they used......Maybe I just got a bad couple of thorn tail light mounts for my AK.....I had 2 of them snap at the threads in the same spot.....They were able to replace the first and when the 2nd snapped that's when I found out about the owner passing......I do want to say they sent me a new thorn tail for free.....When 2 break on me I'll stop using that product until QC does it's job......RIP to the owner I'm sure he would have done the QC check..!!!!!!!
I made the same mistake with the Magpul light mount. Ended up just bolting the ring mount to the round handguards of my A1. Fewer parts and a few ounces lighter, a win win mistake...
Excellent presentation and way to get some torches ready for those carbines. I sure would like to get an upper with those type of hamdguards and front sight tower. Sadly, I swayed from the Old Ways.
I opted for the traditional handguard as well. Heat was the driving factor. My choice for mounting accessories was a pic rail handguard length ( mounted at the bottom) as i wanted to be able to mount a light, same setup you showed just left side as I'm a lefty, and a bipod or vertical handle. I used Amazon products with stainless hardware from my local ACE. A little blue loctide and voila, everything works very well. I can reach the light switch, and yes on / off only is my preference too (blinking and flashing blablabla just makes me dizzy lol), when the handle is installed. Good video, thanks for sharing. If i may, can you consider publishing a presentation about shooting techniques free standing and how to accomplish best results? Thank you.👍
Am I the only one who's noticed that Reid's channel has been frozen around 200k subs for the past 4 years? I remember discovering this channel and subscribing to it some time around 2020, and I believe I remember it having 195-200k subs back then. Apparently in 4 years he's only gained another 10k subs, despite putting out a lot of good useful content. Which tells me the YT powers that be are deliberately messing with him. Other gun channels grow pretty fast and at a linear growth rate I've noticed (the ones who don't say anything the govt doesn't like). Reid's is one of the only ones that stays "stuck" at a stagnant subscriber count. Probably because he's one of the real ones and thus has been shadow-banned or hamstrung in some way I'm guessing. My favorite gun youtuber on the platform, I would've thought he'd be at 500k+ subs by now. I suspect some kind of limitation is going on in the background, as it does for other youtubers whose content the govt doesn't like.
My first light was a 500 lumen harbor freight light for $7 that i zip-tied to cutout in the cheese grater handguard. I have better now but i still have it and it can compete with $100 setups.
Impact weapons components doesnt seem to be shipping at all right now after the death of their founder. Hopefully that changes soon. They make some awesome mounting solutions for round handguards.
I rock an old bushmaster m4a1 old a1 carry handle with small handgaurds I would trust it any time I use one of the front sight rails so nothing on the handgaurd it has never let me down the rifle
Wanna talk old school and functional? Having a mag light on your nightstand next to your home defense weapon of choice and knowing how to Hold both to control your weapon and light while not adding accessories that make the weapon non practical to carry due to too many gadgets 😎👍🏽
I had a bayonet mount flashlight mount that worked pretty good and it was cheap. Centered the light under the barrel which kept it out of my field of vision. Great video as always.
I found that I like the "clamp onto the frontsight" rails for my light+slim plastic handguard combo, and I just velcro the pressure switch onto the handguard
They come with a bag of hardware. Different screws and back plates. You should be able to make it work on any of those Handguards. If you can find one with one of their dealers. Their site has been close to retail orders for over a year now.
I bought my Stag model 1L as I am a southpaw many years ago. I don't have as many rounds through it like you do, but I'm glad that they do honor their guarantee about replacement parts.
The bayonet lug should be the go to spot for light mounting of you have an A2 front sight post. It's ambidextrous, packs away in a case flat and the closer you can get the light to the end of the barrel the less muzzle shadow you'll cast.
I already have the IWC mount on a DSA AR that I installed years ago. I love it. I had a second one on backorder for the past six months and cancelled that in favor of Reid's 1913 rail plus MagPul mount solution. Important: if you go this route, make sure you buy 15mm Long M5 T-nuts and black 1/2" flathead 10/32 machine screws as well! The T-nuts that come with the rail segments are way too small to cross the entire vent hole and engage the handguard. If you are using the quick release mount that comes with the Surefire Scout, the MagPul rings and ring base should be removed. If you decide to use the MagPul rings, the Surefire quick release mount must be removed. Either choice is valid to your personal needs and preference.
I have done exactly like you show for the second option.. Most of my rifles have the standard round handguard and I actually prefer the smaller diameter but I put a short piece of magpul rail at the 10 o-clock position and use a 1-in scope ring to clamp a flashlight onto that rail which puts it right in front of my left thumb. Works great and was inexpensive.
Love the old round handguards and have mounted pic rails on them for a light or a stubby forward grip. You forgot to mention putting the heat shields back on after mounting the pic rail.
I always switch out my round hand guards that use an A-pillar gasblock with a Midwest Industries mlok or an extended magpul mlok handguard.... I've pretty much switched over to low profile gas blocks anyway for longer mlok handguards to eliminate as much barrel shadow possible, especially when shooting suppressed. LWRC currently make my favorite DI & piston operated rifles.
Thank you Reid. I still remember your lecture on the different phases of government, and we are 100% at bondage. Thank you for doing the right thing no matter what!
When Reid put out his last light video, I bought several Surefire G2X lights, and they were inexpensive and awesome. I also bought a couple Magpul rail mounts, and they are one of the best inexpensive mounting options available.
What is your opinion (if you have one) on the pic rail on the FSP like the one Midwest Industries offers? I have one and have not noticed an issue with POI.
I wouldn't recommend IWC, I ordered a thorntail and paid for it to get to my house in under 5 business days. It had not even shipped on the 4th day and they basically told me to go have fun with myself. I cancelled the order lol
Midway has a pic rail that mounts to the FSP. Not too expensive. A viable option, although not as good as the IWC part. Absolutely agree that keeping it simple and basic, and working on skills is the most important thing. If someone absolutely has to customize their rifle, in order to make it 'theirs', then there's a huge market of drop in parts that will satisfy most people, and not deviate from what Reid is holding in his hands in the video. Engineers designed the rifles this way for reasons. Most come stock looking exactly like what he's showing in the videos. But cool guy parts can be had for little money, and don't require a whole lot to install them if you absolutely need to have something else.
Thanks Reid. Love new stuff. Love old stuff. Know what works best for you. Leave the bells and whistles behind, you really don't need them. If a product has been improved and works better for you, be open minded. But don't scoff at older stuff... its been dealing death since before you started life. Respect it. Have a basic knowledge of how to use it all, but train mostly with your setup.
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I wish I knew about this earlier I wrapped the damn thing in half a roll of black electrical tape 😂
FAB defense makes one that mounts to the bayonet lug. Maybe not the best for long strings of fire, and a little odd of a position, but it's an option.
Midwest Industries has a front sight rail that clamshells on and is rock solid. running it for years, gets the light a little farther forward and no shift in zero. 33$ on some sites google the model number MCTAR-01G2
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Ordered!! Thank you for your videos!
Ergo grip mags rail section to attach to standard handguards.
I believe cloud defensive makes light mounts for stream light and sure fire and tape strips.
I purchased an Elzetta FSB light mount probably close to 15 years ago. It mounts in minutes and is extremely durable. I’ve ran it on my bushmaster xm15 A2 carbine.
You are an American Hero Reid!
Ergo Grips makes a drop in rail mount that bolts to your front sight tower.
I was watching some other videos trying to figure it out, thanks for making this!
Those vent holes are there for a reason. When you start pluging them up heat retention/buildup can be an issue. Otherwise a good idea.
On a non-free-floated barrel, the shooter has more effect on barrel harmonics than anything else. There are picatinny rail-mounts for the front-sight-post that work well.
If you want to shoot good groups with your rifle, brace off the front of the magazine-well without touching the fore-end on anything at all. What you brace against has a lot to do with it too, the more rigid the better; i.e. something immoveable like concrete or steel imbedded in the ground.
Thanks for the reminder.I totally thought I was subbed👍
KZ mount for FSB look unique
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Reid gives solid based advice. Essential techniques that are simple and to the point. Enjoy watching and learning from Reid.
After dealing with a number of tape switches that stopped working, I switched to the more simplistic light setup like you’re running. I bought a couple of those Magpuls when they first came out and used them on issue carbines with quad rails. They worked great. Still using one minus the rings on a personal with a free float quad to mount a Scout Light 600L that I wouldn’t have otherwise bought except that the price was too right. Activating the Scout with the butt cap switch. The Magpul mount pits the light at the right height and sufficiently far enough foreword to establish a good support hand position. I’d never realized the hand guards were double heat shielded. After going with free float quads, I was a bit irritated to find that the hand guard get pretty hot closer to the gas block making gloves a necessity for anything more than a few rounds. Having watched your previous video, I now wonder how much of a difference the free float really makes when trying to make small, tight groups at 100 from a supported position.
After having all the tactical crap, I find the rifle I always grab is my classic midlength with irons and the normal round handgaurds.
I love the FSP Picatinny Mount but it makes your light and batteries get hot.
That’s my preferred. I like simple, traditional. Tried and true 🫡🇺🇸
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I’ve always been fond of the Front sight pic rail attachment
The Magpul handguards are a really solid choice as well for those looking to replace the rounded handguards but not go nuts on it.
I bought a set for my 20' and they're really sturdy
IWC sadly isn't viable at the moment as the owner passed away and they aren't selling anything on their site.
That was my top choice…kept waiting to get one and waited too long. Hoping someone buys the patent or another company makes one.
Yep.....RIP......Most of their products were good quality.....I've had 2 of IWC mounts snap right off my rail at the same place....Tried contacting them and found out about the owner passing......I found a company in PA. Shaffer Machining. They make some of the best light mounts, red dot mounts, etc. on the market in my opinion.....Arisaka is another great company for all sorts of mounting options.....
I was just going to comment that too. I hope they get the business back up and running again, they made such good products for so long.
I wish I had bought more of those. Great light mount. All their products were excellent
@@PsychedelicWinter110 They were an excellent design....yes......I'll have to disagree on quality of the aluminum they used......Maybe I just got a bad couple of thorn tail light mounts for my AK.....I had 2 of them snap at the threads in the same spot.....They were able to replace the first and when the 2nd snapped that's when I found out about the owner passing......I do want to say they sent me a new thorn tail for free.....When 2 break on me I'll stop using that product until QC does it's job......RIP to the owner I'm sure he would have done the QC check..!!!!!!!
The Magpul light mount is a great addition to a rifle or shotgun.
I made the same mistake with the Magpul light mount. Ended up just bolting the ring mount to the round handguards of my A1. Fewer parts and a few ounces lighter, a win win mistake...
Excellent presentation and way to get some torches ready for those carbines. I sure would like to get an upper with those type of hamdguards and front sight tower. Sadly, I swayed from the Old Ways.
I still use an old school m900 i was issued with a pic rail bolted to handguard. It was so old my armorer said dont bring it back.
I opted for the traditional handguard as well. Heat was the driving factor. My choice for mounting accessories was a pic rail handguard length ( mounted at the bottom) as i wanted to be able to mount a light, same setup you showed just left side as I'm a lefty, and a bipod or vertical handle. I used Amazon products with stainless hardware from my local ACE. A little blue loctide and voila, everything works very well. I can reach the light switch, and yes on / off only is my preference too (blinking and flashing blablabla just makes me dizzy lol), when the handle is installed. Good video, thanks for sharing. If i may, can you consider publishing a presentation about shooting techniques free standing and how to accomplish best results? Thank you.👍
I'm very happy to see the increased content lately, and have it be so useful as well
Ive had an iwc on back order through mounts plus for over 2 years i dont think ill ever get. Probably need to try and get my money back
Liked, subscribed and you just sold some stuff for these folks.
nice
Am I the only one who's noticed that Reid's channel has been frozen around 200k subs for the past 4 years? I remember discovering this channel and subscribing to it some time around 2020, and I believe I remember it having 195-200k subs back then. Apparently in 4 years he's only gained another 10k subs, despite putting out a lot of good useful content. Which tells me the YT powers that be are deliberately messing with him. Other gun channels grow pretty fast and at a linear growth rate I've noticed (the ones who don't say anything the govt doesn't like). Reid's is one of the only ones that stays "stuck" at a stagnant subscriber count. Probably because he's one of the real ones and thus has been shadow-banned or hamstrung in some way I'm guessing. My favorite gun youtuber on the platform, I would've thought he'd be at 500k+ subs by now. I suspect some kind of limitation is going on in the background, as it does for other youtubers whose content the govt doesn't like.
I've been unsubscribed from the channel twice now....
My first light was a 500 lumen harbor freight light for $7 that i zip-tied to cutout in the cheese grater handguard. I have better now but i still have it and it can compete with $100 setups.
And easier to field fix/replace. This is how production models are developed. 👍🤔🥰
Man your on drugs. I've bought lots of harbor freight lights until I wised up.they are pure crap. If you have a good one you got lucky.
My first light was a lantern that I zip tied to my musket and I was damn glad to have. It
Simplicity is cool and all, but it's good to have well made stuff. It matters.
Impact weapons components doesnt seem to be shipping at all right now after the death of their founder. Hopefully that changes soon. They make some awesome mounting solutions for round handguards.
Again,,,,thank you so much!! Please keep up the great videos my friend
Thoughts on a barrel mounted weapon light?
I’ve always put the light away from me - why put the light on “same” side? Pros and cons please - thanks
Why would the light placement effect the shots?
I rock an old bushmaster m4a1 old a1 carry handle with small handgaurds I would trust it any time I use one of the front sight rails so nothing on the handgaurd it has never let me down the rifle
I prefer the Doom 3 method of not being able to hold your gun and flashlight at the same time
The moe handguards are cheap and have all kinds of mount options.
Appreciate you, Reid.
I don't need cool looking stuff, just stuff that works! Less is more.
Wanna talk old school and functional? Having a mag light on your nightstand next to your home defense weapon of choice and knowing how to
Hold both to control your weapon and light while not adding accessories that make the weapon non practical to carry due to too many gadgets 😎👍🏽
Iraq 04-05 used tape and a mini mag light.
FAB Defense makes a polymer picatinny rail for the AR handguard also, $15. I've used mine for nearly 10 years.
I had a bayonet mount flashlight mount that worked pretty good and it was cheap. Centered the light under the barrel which kept it out of my field of vision. Great video as always.
Yep. I have one too. Like it a lot
I found that I like the "clamp onto the frontsight" rails for my light+slim plastic handguard combo, and I just velcro the pressure switch onto the handguard
Does the light block any vision with your optic? I can see it would if using iron sights. That's why I go mounting the light low.
For that IWC I couldn’t find one for the “double” heat shield.
They come with a bag of hardware. Different screws and back plates. You should be able to make it work on any of those Handguards. If you can find one with one of their dealers. Their site has been close to retail orders for over a year now.
Thank you
When I had a round hand guard one i used an Elzetta ZFH light mount. It worked pretty good.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Tried to go to the website to order the light mount. There is no way to order it.
I heard that the owner of iwc passed away that’s why you can’t order
Damn kids! I’m my day we ran automotive hose clamps and a D-cell Maglite!
I really like the front sight block picatinny mounts, they work awesome
I bought my Stag model 1L as I am a southpaw many years ago. I don't have as many rounds through it like you do, but I'm glad that they do honor their guarantee about replacement parts.
Great info like always!!
Thank you. 👍
My Colt 6920 is in need of a light but I have put it off because of this issue. Thanks.
Key zion makes a rail piece that mounts on your bayonet lug. To mount ur light
Thank you, Reid.
Thank you, sir.
The duel output surefires are easy to convert to single output.
Sometimes you can find the dual output lights for cheaper!
Your channel is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for high quality knowledge transfer with effective presentation and humility!
This guys knowledge and personality is so underrated he truly doesn’t get the attention he deserves!
Thanks
I religiously stick too hose clamps the cost + reliability beats any light mount I’ve found doubles as a sling mount aswell
i took the plastic rail off my grip pod, a couple of screws and drilled it into the handguard
The bayonet lug should be the go to spot for light mounting of you have an A2 front sight post. It's ambidextrous, packs away in a case flat and the closer you can get the light to the end of the barrel the less muzzle shadow you'll cast.
I already have the IWC mount on a DSA AR that I installed years ago. I love it. I had a second one on backorder for the past six months and cancelled that in favor of Reid's 1913 rail plus MagPul mount solution. Important: if you go this route, make sure you buy 15mm Long M5 T-nuts and black 1/2" flathead 10/32 machine screws as well! The T-nuts that come with the rail segments are way too small to cross the entire vent hole and engage the handguard. If you are using the quick release mount that comes with the Surefire Scout, the MagPul rings and ring base should be removed. If you decide to use the MagPul rings, the Surefire quick release mount must be removed. Either choice is valid to your personal needs and preference.
O.G. is the way to go. That's a good lookin blaster. S tier set up is the Gordon carbine clone. Big sexy 👍
Kley zion makes a small rail piece that mounts to with a set screw, to your bayonet lug. To mount a light.
I use a qd mount called a kerm lock. Used to have a C cell maglight mounted to it before I switched to a surfire g2x.
Thank you Reid !! 🇺🇸 👍
Does anyone know what rear sight and optic Reid has on there?
I have done exactly like you show for the second option.. Most of my rifles have the standard round handguard and I actually prefer the smaller diameter but I put a short piece of magpul rail at the 10 o-clock position and use a 1-in scope ring to clamp a flashlight onto that rail which puts it right in front of my left thumb. Works great and was inexpensive.
I moved from The Peoples Republic of New Jersey to Wyoming.
You can get Click tailcaps instead of pressure ones for the G2 and 6P models as well to eliminate the twist headache, working man's Scoutlight
Love the old round handguards and have mounted pic rails on them for a light or a stubby forward grip.
You forgot to mention putting the heat shields back on after mounting the pic rail.
I always switch out my round hand guards that use an A-pillar gasblock with a Midwest Industries mlok or an extended magpul mlok handguard.... I've pretty much switched over to low profile gas blocks anyway for longer mlok handguards to eliminate as much barrel shadow possible, especially when shooting suppressed. LWRC currently make my favorite DI & piston operated rifles.
I have a mount that goes on the front sight with a pic, rail on both sides. My light mounts to that. Looking for input
Thank you Reid. I still remember your lecture on the different phases of government, and we are 100% at bondage. Thank you for doing the right thing no matter what!
I have the Israeli mount for a light under the front sight. Works great.
When Reid put out his last light video, I bought several Surefire G2X lights, and they were inexpensive and awesome. I also bought a couple Magpul rail mounts, and they are one of the best inexpensive mounting options available.
I have those 4 of my shotguns and 2 of my ARs. Great lights
I have an m lok rail but i wanna get a gi style upper but the m loks what i got at the time i dont think its cooler though
Thank you sir. Does it mess up the heat shield? Do you have to pull it out to put in the mounts? Thanks.
Very helpful. Thanks
What is your opinion (if you have one) on the pic rail on the FSP like the one Midwest Industries offers? I have one and have not noticed an issue with POI.
I have the Midwest Industries FSP pic rail on both my ARs and have not seen any shift in POI
I wouldn't recommend IWC, I ordered a thorntail and paid for it to get to my house in under 5 business days. It had not even shipped on the 4th day and they basically told me to go have fun with myself. I cancelled the order lol
You're always a breath of fresh air bro. We appreciate you.
LOVE all the content coming out recently! Keep it coming Reid! Thank you for all you do
will I change mine out about a year ago, cuz I couldn't figure out how to put accessory on it
Midway has a pic rail that mounts to the FSP. Not too expensive. A viable option, although not as good as the IWC part. Absolutely agree that keeping it simple and basic, and working on skills is the most important thing. If someone absolutely has to customize their rifle, in order to make it 'theirs', then there's a huge market of drop in parts that will satisfy most people, and not deviate from what Reid is holding in his hands in the video. Engineers designed the rifles this way for reasons. Most come stock looking exactly like what he's showing in the videos. But cool guy parts can be had for little money, and don't require a whole lot to install them if you absolutely need to have something else.
I love the Magpul mount.
Hey Reid, any experience with SOLGW?
I really want to schedule some training with you in the next few months. Thank you for all the useful info throughout the years.
Thanks Reid. Love new stuff. Love old stuff. Know what works best for you. Leave the bells and whistles behind, you really don't need them. If a product has been improved and works better for you, be open minded. But don't scoff at older stuff... its been dealing death since before you started life. Respect it. Have a basic knowledge of how to use it all, but train mostly with your setup.
I am wondering when the Iconic Colt Firearms will be making its exodus from Cominecticut. Shouldn't be too long . So sad, so pathetic.
Back in the Nam we lost a lot of good men to round handguards.