I'm definitely no fan of Chinese scooters, but it annoys me that everyone always points out that Chinese scooters are "plastic" while Vespas are "metal". The Vespa's body has to be metal because they don't have a frame underneath it, and rely entirely on the body for structural integrity. The plastic on a Chinese or Japanese scooter is non structural exterior body panels attached to a steel frame underneath. Piaggio (the manufacturer of Vespa) also build many models with steel frames and plastic body panels, so it can't be such a terrible idea, can it? And remember, plastic won't dent or rust.
I have a Stella 4T and although they are great the rubber bits suck and if you don't have a garage, expect to replace most of the rubber bits. The electrics aren't that good either but it's the same with an old school shifty Vespa. If you get the Stella or a Shifty Vespa, invest in some tools, spare cables, and have patience as you are gonna have to do some wrenching at some point. If going the Genuine route, (for the newbies), get the Buddy. It's rock solid and in the 5 years and 30,000 miles it's never left me stranded. The Tao Tao you get what you pay for. They can last a long time but take more work. I'd advise to be very diligent with the upkeep on the Tao Tao....
Wouldn't one of the better quality Chinese scooters (Znen or Linhai, badged as Aeolus, SSR, or BMS in the USA, and Lexmoto or AJS in the UK) be a more appropriate comparison to the LML/Stella and Vespa?
+Georgio A -I think what Rolling Wrench meant by Chinese Scooters was Mainland/People's Republic of China scooters. Not the Taiwanese-made scooters which make good quality scooters for Honda, Yamaha, etc. One thing not mentioned about the mainland Chinese scooters is that there's not many shops that will work on them.
Jie Chen, Obviously you get what you pay for, but consumers need to be warned that many mainland Chinese scooters break down easily and nobody will repair them. If you disagree, please name those quality scooters. I recommend to people who want a good quality scooter for cheap, to buy a name-brand scooter (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha) and buy it used. Most used scooters have only a few hundred miles on them and are half (or more) the price of a new scooter. Because those name-brands are of good quality, they last a long time and will ride many miles/kilometers.
i own a 1984 red cv80 scooter its a 2 stroke 80cc engine (looks like the stella) its in great shape and ive got it up to 50mph i got it for $300 on craigslist, i love it.also, i just bought a 2008 schwinn hope 50cc (looks like the blue Chinese scooter but the headlight is different and the dash(has more features). yea it only goes 31mph but its cool and it has low miles and NO RUST. but im going to drive my red 1984 scooter mostly, it gets a lot of looks probably never going to sell it, it also has the original tailbox with it. the guy i bought it from gave me a set of brand new tires and brakes for it, so i got a good deal.
From what I no vespa is the highest quality scooters you can get you could say the BMW of scooters they look the best. You no when buying them they will not break down.. I'm trying to get one this year. And enjoy it this summer. I would be looking at a 250" or 300 like 2013/ 2014
legitimatemind, Please understand I am aware of this. What I was referring to is the company. Vespa/piaggio is a Italian company, Honda is a Japanese company..... and so on. The point of the video was to show you the quality differences per brand, regardless of where they are really built. Thanks for watching
for me, the Stella scooter... it´s so much better than the other ones.... bullet proof engine, and nice style, and with 20 million scooters selled around the world...
just got back from Cambodia the biggest seller appears to be the Honda dream 125 cc. some have big mileage and bullet proof . I seen them selling new at 1800 US dollar .
I sense a very strong anti-Chinese bias. Feeding into the whole stereotype that everything made in China is trash. Not true, man. You forgot to mention Chinese scooter is several thousands cheaper than Vespa.
Ernesto Arce .....Everything made in China IS trash....China's entire economy is based on obsolescence... Show me anything made in China that is built to last....
no, i don't think anything about the differences between scooters is stupid, all of it is important! ty for the video..i keep both of mine in the garage, 150 vino & the honda 150 pcx
Didnt learn what I thought I would 🤔 so do you still need to do your CBT if you've got a provisional licence at age 29 ?? Any help would be appreciative
question: I was considering on buying a scooter like the tao tao to commute to work and its less than 8miles away. if i did this for 4 or 5 days a week, would i get my moneys worth or would i need a higher value scooter? I don't want a 900 dollar scooter to last me just for one summer, ya know? look forward to hearing from ya
I have a Yamaha Vino 125 from 2008, great and stylish the scooter has over 6K on it and i have no problems. So why don"r you do your home work and read up on the Chinese Scooters, My scooter was made in China runs great looks great and is half the cost if your vespa, They are over priced and the people that buy them do so to have others look at them, Bottom line is buy a brand name and you wont go wrong
Nothing wrong with chinese Scooters as long you change sparkplug and oil you be good , i change the oil on my Baotian twice a year and the gearoil every 2000km or similar and it's still going strong 😎
Fyi the Stella is the original Vespa P series large frame bought by Indian company LML. Stella is the badge but it's DNA is the original Vespa P series.. Just saying If you want an old school Vespa P series get the Stella.
i have a 150 tao tao it gets shit mpg 13 miles and its on e with a 1.4 gallon tank it doesent leak it has a lot of power and goes 55 mph it has 100 miles on it do u have any suggestions
I thought I was going to learn about buying options along with where to find, what to look for, mechanical things to look at during purchases. This is a mere comparison video showing off your toys. Next time just name the video "my scotters and the differences"
Its ok saying that the Vespa is better than the TauTau, but it also costs way more. In fact I just got a TauTau type of scooter for less than $1,000, whereas my neighbor just paid $4,000 for his Vespa.
I have chinese 50cc scooter 4 stroke. Now 2stroke is always faster then 4 stroke. My scooter is using only fuel, but 2 stroke use mix of fuel and oil. Engine smells on oil and creates smoke. Thats why i dont like 2 stroke . Also i enjoy driving my scooter thats why i bought it in first place. Speed isnt important. Parts are cheaper for Chinese scooter then for some other expensive brand. If you are on budget then get chinese. You get some thing for different amount of money.
How are 2 stroke engines obsolete? Are they banned or taxed more than 4 stroke motors? The existence of 2 stroke weed wackers, chain saws, etcetera will mean that the fuel will be available. I do think people should choose a cleaner burning engine. I am only questioning whether "obsolete" is the most accurate word to use to describe those motors.
Its true the quality on a vespa is better but it cost 6000.00 and the tao cost 500.00 you get better quality but your paying for it. I have a Tao 170000 km 3 years old. 150cc great little bike if you can wrench.
Title of the video isn't really what the video is about. This is like a manufacturer comparison, it doesn't really have much to do with the process of buying (i.e. how to buy).
gennaro senatore Nonsense, you ignorant fkwad. Especially given that repairs are equally cheap and READILY available . But continue to display your culturally deprived ignorant stupidity.
Rubbish stupid is someone who throws money down the drain by buying that little piece of shit. There is many better alternative even in china. That is not. Is ugly shoddy built and an all around piece of crap.
gennaro senatore Fkwad, imported bikes are NOT allowed in China. So get your head out of your ass and learn about that which you are whining. You are just butthurt because the EU and others cannot import bikes into China - which if they could, companies like Yamaha, Honda and Kymco would make a mockery of anything the overpriced protectionist dumbfks in Europe could produce.
The review - this is metal, that is plastic, and the rest "feels cheap". And then we learn that UV in sunlight will eventually dry and discolor plastic..... And the TaoTao goes for ~$400-500 in China. You can buy SIX for the price of ONE Vespa. Let's see, a Toyota and a Porsche GT3 has a better price ratio differential! So using this criterion, one would be better off buying a GT3 for simple travel around town - which is nice, as I look REALLY good sitting in a GT3. A waste of time.
Not a vespa? It's a vespa PX series, but faster. Reed valve not rotary injection. Plus front disc. FYI lml the company that actually makes the stella made the vespa p series. 99% of parts are interchangeable with said vespa. The real difference is automatic v manual, and 2 v 4 stroke.
That's because LML was a licenced maker for vespa in the india/asian market and retain the right to keep making the P series after separating from vespa, called the 'star' by LML, genuine became the importer and badged it 'Stella' (italian for star..). in 2010 Stella went 4 stroke. I have a 2012 4 stroke.
All of these are subpar quality scooters. The quality goes in the following order: Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and then Korean brands like Kymco, Sym, etc... but those are hit and miss. Vespas are known to be problematic and non-reliable. They are stylish though, in a way.
Both Kymco and SYM are from Taiwan. They are more affordable than Japanese ones while as reliable as they are. Kymco are making 650 c.c. scooter engines for BMW. Kawasaki 300J is twin brother of Kymco Downtown 300. Both are made by Kymco. PGO is also from Taiwan with strong acceleration.
just a heads up lml have just gone into what the indian government call a sick company state ,bankrupt by any other words,good thing is that because the stella is based on the original vespa px a lot of the parts can be used .should look up what we do over here lol you might be surprised what we do to a vespa ,pity America never got the t5
Rolling Wrench- Most likely you didnt have one for comparison, but yes , they are & deserving a mention for the nuvies with no clue as to what to buy concerning quality.
Sorry Chinese scooters are among the cheapest built; many of them you can't even find parts. My brother owned one and did all the repairs required, and within just a little over one year, the engine was shot. You can buy a cheap scooter, but the chances are you'll pay for it one way or another. It is unfortunate to see people falling for the cheap scooters and to see the things that come apart and break in a short amount of time. You get what you pay for. There are scooters that we see that have been around for many years, decades. I am just saying be careful, it's your money, your choice.
+BadWolf exactly I see loads of men in Spain on Vespas popping wheelies even. And all the girls I saw there seemed to be on Piaggio's so I dunno what that guys talking about and Vespas are great looking.
+I'mEverywhere welp thats because its close to italy. I think they look like something an old granny would ride. I prefer yamaha aerox, derbi, beta, reiju, cpi
the reason everything is cheap on the Chinese scooter is the fact that its a 50cc which is much cheaper so why make a luxurious scooter that won't make you profit
I'm definitely no fan of Chinese scooters, but it annoys me that everyone always points out that Chinese scooters are "plastic" while Vespas are "metal". The Vespa's body has to be metal because they don't have a frame underneath it, and rely entirely on the body for structural integrity. The plastic on a Chinese or Japanese scooter is non structural exterior body panels attached to a steel frame underneath. Piaggio (the manufacturer of Vespa) also build many models with steel frames and plastic body panels, so it can't be such a terrible idea, can it? And remember, plastic won't dent or rust.
Barry Ervin THANK YOU
I'm about to buy a 1978 Vespa PX150 in pretty good shape and this is very encouraging!
I have a Stella 4T and although they are great the rubber bits suck and if you don't have a garage, expect to replace most of the rubber bits. The electrics aren't that good either but it's the same with an old school shifty Vespa. If you get the Stella or a Shifty Vespa, invest in some tools, spare cables, and have patience as you are gonna have to do some wrenching at some point. If going the Genuine route, (for the newbies), get the Buddy. It's rock solid and in the 5 years and 30,000 miles it's never left me stranded. The Tao Tao you get what you pay for. They can last a long time but take more work. I'd advise to be very diligent with the upkeep on the Tao Tao....
Wouldn't one of the better quality Chinese scooters (Znen or Linhai, badged as Aeolus, SSR, or BMS in the USA, and Lexmoto or AJS in the UK) be a more appropriate comparison to the LML/Stella and Vespa?
+Georgio A -I think what Rolling Wrench meant by Chinese Scooters was Mainland/People's Republic of China scooters. Not the Taiwanese-made scooters which make good quality scooters for Honda, Yamaha, etc. One thing not mentioned about the mainland Chinese scooters is that there's not many shops that will work on them.
+Rick Rudge there are many good quality mainland Chinese scooters. Dont blame the bad quality, because you get what you paid!
Jie Chen, Obviously you get what you pay for, but consumers need to be warned that many mainland Chinese scooters break down easily and nobody will repair them. If you disagree, please name those quality scooters. I recommend to people who want a good quality scooter for cheap, to buy a name-brand scooter (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha) and buy it used. Most used scooters have only a few hundred miles on them and are half (or more) the price of a new scooter. Because those name-brands are of good quality, they last a long time and will ride many miles/kilometers.
i own a 1984 red cv80 scooter its a 2 stroke 80cc engine (looks like the stella) its in great shape and ive got it up to 50mph i got it for $300 on craigslist, i love it.also, i just bought a 2008 schwinn hope 50cc (looks like the blue Chinese scooter but the headlight is different and the dash(has more features). yea it only goes 31mph but its cool and it has low miles and NO RUST. but im going to drive my red 1984 scooter mostly, it gets a lot of looks probably never going to sell it, it also has the original tailbox with it. the guy i bought it from gave me a set of brand new tires and brakes for it, so i got a good deal.
So, where's the "how to"?
I learned absolutely nothing from this video.
I thought I was the only one.
Excellent. That's the way to make a video. Info, info, info. Thanks a lot. Great.
I appreciate the Vespa and everything, but I like how if you spill some gas while fueling it, it will get all over the battery lol
From what I no vespa is the highest quality scooters you can get you could say the BMW of scooters they look the best. You no when buying them they will not break down.. I'm trying to get one this year. And enjoy it this summer. I would be looking at a 250" or 300 like 2013/ 2014
legitimatemind,
Please understand I am aware of this. What I was referring to is the company. Vespa/piaggio is a Italian company, Honda is a Japanese company..... and so on. The point of the video was to show you the quality differences per brand, regardless of where they are really built.
Thanks
for watching
for me, the Stella scooter... it´s so much better than the other ones.... bullet proof engine, and nice style, and with 20 million scooters selled around the world...
I have a 2005 Honda metropolitan over 6000 miles in mint condition bought it new for 2 grand runs excellent. And it's a four stroke.
I agree, you get what you pay for. tao taos can be good scooters
just got back from Cambodia the biggest seller appears to be the Honda dream 125 cc. some have big mileage and bullet proof . I seen them selling new at 1800 US dollar .
I sense a very strong anti-Chinese bias. Feeding into the whole stereotype that everything made in China is trash. Not true, man. You forgot to mention Chinese scooter is several thousands cheaper than Vespa.
Yep. Cheap, and trash.
what was it called? i wanna buy one...no joke.
i kinda want one though cause im poor and i think i could use it.
he mentioned the difference in price ... several times.
Ernesto Arce .....Everything made in China IS trash....China's entire economy is based on obsolescence...
Show me anything made in China that is built to last....
thank you so much man, pretty helpful video
no, i don't think anything about the differences between scooters is stupid, all of it is important! ty for the video..i keep both of mine in the garage, 150 vino & the honda 150 pcx
Didnt learn what I thought I would 🤔 so do you still need to do your CBT if you've got a provisional licence at age 29 ?? Any help would be appreciative
question: I was considering on buying a scooter like the tao tao to commute to work and its less than 8miles away. if i did this for 4 or 5 days a week, would i get my moneys worth or would i need a higher value scooter? I don't want a 900 dollar scooter to last me just for one summer, ya know? look forward to hearing from ya
Both are good, it depend on your budget.
A good starter level scooter. Is the honda metropolitan
Honda PCX150 is the best choice hands down.
I have a Yamaha Vino 125 from 2008, great and stylish the scooter has over 6K on it and i have no problems. So why don"r you do your home work and read up on the Chinese Scooters, My scooter was made in China runs great looks great and is half the cost if your vespa, They are over priced and the people that buy them do so to have others look at them,
Bottom line is buy a brand name and you wont go wrong
Yamaha is a Japanese company, NOT Chinese.
What do think about the BMS HERITAGE 150 ?
Great review. THANK YOU!!!
Nothing wrong with chinese Scooters as long you change sparkplug and oil you be good , i change the oil on my Baotian twice a year and the gearoil every 2000km or similar and it's still going strong 😎
hey I have that same taotao but my rear tire is worn out how do I replace the rear tire and what brand of tire should I buy
Fyi the Stella is the original Vespa P series large frame bought by Indian company LML. Stella is the badge but it's DNA is the original Vespa P series.. Just saying If you want an old school Vespa P series get the Stella.
i have a 150 tao tao it gets shit mpg 13 miles and its on e with a 1.4 gallon tank it doesent leak it has a lot of power and goes 55 mph it has 100 miles on it do u have any suggestions
I thought I was going to learn about buying options along with where to find, what to look for, mechanical things to look at during purchases. This is a mere comparison video showing off your toys. Next time just name the video "my scotters and the differences"
Thanks for chiming I’m. Ok will no next time
also the stella is built by LML and not the importer as you mentioned
Taotao is more cheaper than the other two, it's unfair.
Its ok saying that the Vespa is better than the TauTau, but it also costs way more. In fact I just got a TauTau type of scooter for less than $1,000, whereas my neighbor just paid $4,000 for his Vespa.
I want to buy a Stella scooter but it has 5000miles the price is 750 that is ok?
I have chinese 50cc scooter 4 stroke. Now 2stroke is always faster then 4 stroke. My scooter is using only fuel, but 2 stroke use mix of fuel and oil. Engine smells on oil and creates smoke. Thats why i dont like 2 stroke . Also i enjoy driving my scooter thats why i bought it in first place. Speed isnt important. Parts are cheaper for Chinese scooter then for some other expensive brand. If you are on budget then get chinese. You get some thing for different amount of money.
Everyone says chinese scooters suck, but theyre actually not that bad.
@@markussavi Tell that to my brother; last only one year, engine shot.
i have two japanese 1980s 80cc scooters that look like the stella, and also a 150cc tao tao scooter
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATIVE VIDEO!
How are 2 stroke engines obsolete? Are they banned or taxed more than 4 stroke motors? The existence of 2 stroke weed wackers, chain saws, etcetera will mean that the fuel will be available. I do think people should choose a cleaner burning engine. I am only questioning whether "obsolete" is the most accurate word to use to describe those motors.
the stella is a vespa ? px 200 or 125 stella is the name made under licence from piaggio
nice corvette back there
Its true the quality on a vespa is better but it cost 6000.00 and the tao cost 500.00 you get better quality but your paying for it. I have a Tao 170000 km 3 years old. 150cc great little bike if you can wrench.
Title of the video isn't really what the video is about. This is like a manufacturer comparison, it doesn't really have much to do with the process of buying (i.e. how to buy).
cost of parts/ mechanics of vespa vs Chinese scooter?
major difference
O come on! Taotao is 900$ scooter! Vespa cost 3000$. Be real dude.
TheDiksaaa Its less than $500 IN China!!!!
+sdushdiu it is still a piece of shit even at 200 usd is too much.
gennaro senatore
Nonsense, you ignorant fkwad. Especially given that repairs are equally cheap and READILY available .
But continue to display your culturally deprived ignorant stupidity.
Rubbish stupid is someone who throws money down the drain by buying that little piece of shit. There is many better alternative even in china. That is not. Is ugly shoddy built and an all around piece of crap.
gennaro senatore
Fkwad, imported bikes are NOT allowed in China. So get your head out of your ass and learn about that which you are whining.
You are just butthurt because the EU and others cannot import bikes into China - which if they could, companies like Yamaha, Honda and Kymco would make a mockery of anything the overpriced protectionist dumbfks in Europe could produce.
seriously? You're running 6 ads on an 11 minute video?
better to do a PX only comparison surely !!
The review - this is metal, that is plastic, and the rest "feels cheap".
And then we learn that UV in sunlight will eventually dry and discolor plastic.....
And the TaoTao goes for ~$400-500 in China.
You can buy SIX for the price of ONE Vespa.
Let's see, a Toyota and a Porsche GT3 has a better price ratio differential! So using this criterion, one would be better off buying a GT3 for simple travel around town - which is nice, as I look REALLY good sitting in a GT3.
A waste of time.
Not a vespa? It's a vespa PX series, but faster. Reed valve not rotary injection. Plus front disc. FYI lml the company that actually makes the stella made the vespa p series. 99% of parts are interchangeable with said vespa. The real difference is automatic v manual, and 2 v 4 stroke.
That's because LML was a licenced maker for vespa in the india/asian market and retain the right to keep making the P series after separating from vespa, called the 'star' by LML, genuine became the importer and badged it 'Stella' (italian for star..). in 2010 Stella went 4 stroke. I have a 2012 4 stroke.
5:11 this place and walked petrol?
All of these are subpar quality scooters. The quality goes in the following order: Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and then Korean brands like Kymco, Sym, etc... but those are hit and miss.
Vespas are known to be problematic and non-reliable. They are stylish though, in a way.
+john21031 my 1973 V5A, and my 1981 PX beg to differ.....
Both Kymco and SYM are from Taiwan. They are more affordable than Japanese ones while as reliable as they are. Kymco are making 650 c.c. scooter engines for BMW. Kawasaki 300J is twin brother of Kymco Downtown 300. Both are made by Kymco. PGO is also from Taiwan with strong acceleration.
are they all 50ccm
he said in the video the Stella is a 150 2-stroker and the Vespa is a 150 4-stroker
first off the et is a auto vespa the stella is actually a lml copy of the px vespa the original vespa as for the heap on the end lol
darrin slack thanks for chiming in
just a heads up lml have just gone into what the indian government call a sick company state ,bankrupt by any other words,good thing is that because the stella is based on the original vespa px a lot of the parts can be used .should look up what we do over here lol you might be surprised what we do to a vespa ,pity America never got the t5
when you`ve finished with the vespas get a lambretta
try a lambretta
if you get chance look up scooterlab and scootering in the uk
Do you need a license to drive a moped
Wanna support you but kinda rambling. Maybe think through some bullet points to keep it nice and succinct.
Nice scooters
Seems like it's get a Vespa or nothing to you. very one sided video. would have preferred a more open opinion review
Nice review xD
I am appaled. Man, you left out the Honda Met. which happens to be a great scooter & way cheaper priced than the Genuine & Vespa.
David River Daaaang! Your right. The Metro And Ruckus are great scoots!
Rolling Wrench- Most likely you didnt have one for comparison, but yes , they are & deserving a mention for the nuvies with no clue as to what to buy concerning quality.
Still waiting on the "how to" portion of video
I thought this video was supposed to be how to buy a scooter. You’re just doing a comparison. Can I have my time back?
Whoopsie pooopsie
that's a very low end chinese moped
They're ALL low-end, if made in China.
Taiwan is a completely different story as they believe in good quality control and good components.
So what all is same it easy up grade every thing plus save money on GAS. My classic scooter is Honda Ruckus it best!
Sorry Chinese scooters are among the cheapest built; many of them you can't even find parts. My brother owned one and did all the repairs required, and within just a little over one year, the engine was shot. You can buy a cheap scooter, but the chances are you'll pay for it one way or another. It is unfortunate to see people falling for the cheap scooters and to see the things that come apart and break in a short amount of time. You get what you pay for. There are scooters that we see that have been around for many years, decades. I am just saying be careful, it's your money, your choice.
That is the lesson: YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET. Choose wisely
"Pressed together" ???? lol
right here there's a sign of rust on it. Lol
It's a brand new scooter. Its footstand shouldn't be rusting.
he was referring to his great grammar.
how can a guy possibly drive a vespa? they look sooooo silly
I suppose, but a real man doesn't care what people think.
+BadWolf exactly I see loads of men in Spain on Vespas popping wheelies even. And all the girls I saw there seemed to be on Piaggio's so I dunno what that guys talking about and Vespas are great looking.
I think they look great
+I'mEverywhere welp thats because its close to italy. I think they look like something an old granny would ride. I prefer yamaha aerox, derbi, beta, reiju, cpi
+I'mEverywhere whats the song at 10:00
So what China moped got iron steel they rust United State motorcycle rust too they use same iron steel & plastic!
Rubbish Type review
the reason everything is cheap on the Chinese scooter is the fact that its a 50cc which is much cheaper so why make a luxurious scooter that won't make you profit
You got what you pay for
Is a vmoto milan shit? Haha
lame.