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  • @Saberspark
    @Saberspark  Год назад +1976

    Been working my ASS off trying to finish my Balto video but Universal keeps blocking it. It's over an hour and a half long and it's genuinely one of the best projects me and my team have ever worked on but we NEED for it to get in the clear before uploading. As of right now, I'm hopeful for a release on the 6th of May but fingers crossed. Apologies for the silence on the channel, aiming to turn things around here in May with some long-awaited projects. Thanks again for the support folks!

    • @annielemon
      @annielemon Год назад +6

      You got this saber!!!! So excited to see it! Take as much time for it as you need!💕💕

    • @baymaxinarmor4133
      @baymaxinarmor4133 Год назад +16

      After everything that RUclips and Universal has put you through, You really really should start considering uploading the video to another site. Hell at this point it's the only way.

    • @bomberbg1249
      @bomberbg1249 Год назад +1

      Day 211 of asking you to read Twokinds

    • @allenmurallo3730
      @allenmurallo3730 Год назад +3

      Hopefully you'll be able to past the copyright system. Good luck, man!

    • @peachy0036
      @peachy0036 Год назад +1

      no worries saber!! u got this :)

  • @joaomartins9800
    @joaomartins9800 Год назад +3748

    The fact the egyptian afterlife isn't very different from life itself is actually accurate for egyptian religion.
    Most egyptian depictions of the afterlife we know show that, after arriving at Sekhet-Aaru (the "Field of Reeds", essentially the Egyptian paradise), the people still need to work and farm, the difference being that they're now immortal and the afterlife is so fertile they can eat the same food as the gods and become more like them. It's basically the normal world, but the climate is always perfect and everyone is a healthy, well-fed superhuman.

    • @markusbarten455
      @markusbarten455 Год назад +396

      The only downside is, that if you were a farmer or commoner you were supposed to get back to work after you died. Unless you were buried with some magic doll things that you get to work instead of you.

    • @Anonymous-73
      @Anonymous-73 Год назад +385

      “Hi welcome to heaven now GET BACK TO WORK for the best food you’ve ever eaten”

    • @poisonpenfairy2844
      @poisonpenfairy2844 Год назад +29

      Came here to say this 😂

    • @XDamainI
      @XDamainI Год назад +85

      I figured it was something like this and the movie took for granted that they'd have to explain it to ignorant Americans

    • @thefungiwhisperer2313
      @thefungiwhisperer2313 Год назад +58

      Honestly..... that sounds pretty alright, even if you still got to work, that sounds like my ideal afterlife

  • @Loki_bear
    @Loki_bear Год назад +5152

    I guess you could say this movie was kept… under wraps 😎

  • @SwiftNimblefoot
    @SwiftNimblefoot Год назад +165

    17:00 - Actually, a common misconception. Workers on the pyramids were paid, and catered for. They were not slaves, they were artisans and workers recruited from all over the kingdom.

    • @DapaChrons
      @DapaChrons Год назад +13

      And yet, 4000 died during the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza. Likely there was a mix of paid and slave labour

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 9 месяцев назад +11

      OR maybe "bad labor practices", like say someone made a mistake, someone made shoddy work on scaffolding or building materials that collapsed and killed the work crew, and/or exposure to hazardous materials (like stone and wood dust, lead, etc).@@DapaChrons

    • @lyndsaybrown8471
      @lyndsaybrown8471 4 месяца назад

      Ah, so they were free to leave if they wanted?

    • @aaronluisdelacruz4212
      @aaronluisdelacruz4212 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lyndsaybrown8471 yes.

    • @tmarritt
      @tmarritt Месяц назад +1

      It was largely a way to keep the population employed & paid between farming seasons.
      I mean they could obviously choose not to work... But I have the feeling the alternative was probably starvation.

  • @timwoods2852
    @timwoods2852 Год назад +113

    There was a show on during the late 90s called Mummies ALIVE! It actually tries to incorporate Egyptian mythos into it's story, and it had the mummies actually be undead. They had creepy blue flesh, their bandages were tattered and worn, one dude was missing his whole arm, and they could make themselves freaky when interacting with people; they could make their faces distort and shriek like monsters.

    • @sixrabbits3972
      @sixrabbits3972 Год назад +14

      Yes! I'm not the only one who remembers that show! I kept expecting him to mention it as a comparison.

    • @dustyrose192
      @dustyrose192 Год назад +7

      bro that show sounds awesome

  • @c.khullabaloo4745
    @c.khullabaloo4745 Год назад +2145

    As a huge Egyptian mythology geek, there is so, SO much potential here and I'm sad they didn't expand upon their use of Egyptian culture and beliefs.
    Basically, the Afterlife is kind of like everyday life, with wheat fields and animals to hunt (so yes the dead can eat and technically sleep). In order to get there though, the soul has to go through many passages that contain many demons and trials that will kill you (which is why the body has to have a lot of spells laid on them to protect them for the journey).
    I will give credit for the crocodile pet. Crocodiles were considered sacred and people did mummify them.
    13:39 Also there actually are phoenixes in Egyptian mythology. But they are called Bennu birds and resemble more like herons and are associated with Ra.

    • @roxassora2706
      @roxassora2706 Год назад +35

      Cats are also sacred

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Год назад +59

      @@roxassora2706 Are there animals that are NOT sacred in Egypt?

    • @ratoh1710
      @ratoh1710 Год назад +28

      The phoenix that most people in the west think of may have its origin in the Egyptian phoenix but we have no truly definitive evidence of it

    • @roxassora2706
      @roxassora2706 Год назад

      @@PikaLink91 I'm unsure as I mostly know of cats

    • @Mecharnie_Dobbs
      @Mecharnie_Dobbs Год назад +2

      Phoenix is a Greek word.

  • @Hromovlad1
    @Hromovlad1 Год назад +1185

    Also, Egyptians did describe the afterlife as being exactly like the normal life, with everyone resuming the same duties they had in life

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong Год назад +79

      Even in death I still serve

    • @oliverparis3361
      @oliverparis3361 Год назад +21

      Then what's the point?

    • @Hromovlad1
      @Hromovlad1 Год назад +136

      @@oliverparis3361 You will live forever with no disease, and there are no assholes, since only good people go to the afterlife

    • @oliverparis3361
      @oliverparis3361 Год назад +23

      @@Hromovlad1 That just sounds like modern day but with less steps.

    • @leetri
      @leetri Год назад +63

      @@oliverparis3361 I wouldn't say modern day has no assholes, and there's still plenty of disease

  • @tristongood7417
    @tristongood7417 Год назад +19

    "why are you white" my brother in christ, there is alot of greek blood in them.

  • @riotkitty
    @riotkitty Год назад +74

    Egyptians are very mixed. Dark, light, somewhere in between, etc etc. Not all just one skin tone throughout the populace. So it really isn’t a big deal, even royalty sometimes were white or not even from Egypt due to various war campaigns and the mixing of the populace with slaves and migrants from other countries that were conquered.

    • @Val17282
      @Val17282 Год назад +18

      It was refreshing to read this since many people keep arguing that Anicent Egyptians were only one race or another, when evidence suggests otherwise. Its very strange.

    • @riotkitty
      @riotkitty Год назад +11

      @@Val17282 right back at ya, it’s refreshing to hear your response. Usually when I say this I am called racist.💀

    • @Val17282
      @Val17282 Год назад +16

      @@riotkitty There were brown egyptians descending from the Middle East. White egyptians descending from places like Greek or Rome. And black egyptians from places like Nubia. But people can't seem to or refuse to understand that.

    • @umii-jh5fr
      @umii-jh5fr Год назад +12

      @@Val17282 even people native to Egypt themselves were very diverse in tones and features since thousands of years proven many time why is it so hard to accept for many people?

    • @mariamsoliman8689
      @mariamsoliman8689 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yessss thank u for saying that, I’m Egyptian and I always see ppl get mad when Egyptian characters (or Arabic in general) are not dark skinned, like yes we have both yk white and dark and in between

  • @Seelenfisch
    @Seelenfisch Год назад +875

    Looking at the skeleton make-up just make me think that the character designers (or whoever else was responsible for that) don't know what mummies are, because the whole point of mummification is that they are NOT skeletons...

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +2

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @DePhoegonIsle
      @DePhoegonIsle Год назад +106

      Well fair enough, but mummies would look very skeletal like, or at the very least extremely malnourished to the point of impossible standards.

    • @CatCheshire
      @CatCheshire Год назад +43

      ​@@DePhoegonIsle
      Yeah, skeleton in really dry skin
      Edit: they lack the skin part

    • @Jhud69
      @Jhud69 Год назад +34

      @@DePhoegonIsle Depends, the Incan child sacrifice girl mummy looks pretty normal despite being mummified

    • @Anonymous-73
      @Anonymous-73 Год назад +52

      They’re basically just human jerky

  • @unhingedunit562
    @unhingedunit562 Год назад +995

    One thing I will say is that there are actually a decent number of Pharaohs that were white in Egypt. This is commonly called the Ptolemaic Period/Kingdom/Dynasty, in which Ptolemy, a Greek/Macedonian man, went there to rule because Alexander the Great had Egypt under his thumb for reasons I can't quite remember. This is the last dynasty of Pharaohs before the Roman Empire took over. Cleopatra VII (aka the famous one) was the last Pharaoh of Egypt, and was most likely white. The Pharaohs during this dynasty were likely to stay white due to inbreeding.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +98

      I’ll have to do more research but this is acceptable, hate it when people say Egypt has always been white or arab.

    • @Jhud69
      @Jhud69 Год назад +249

      @@YourKingJDG They definitely weren't white until Romans happened but they also weren't a monolith as some people might think. Cleopatra was for sure white though.

    • @kylenielsen5083
      @kylenielsen5083 Год назад +30

      By that logic we should include the Pharaohs from Nubia.

    • @Bosihiov
      @Bosihiov Год назад +151

      I was going to say something similar about the Ptomleys. I also think something people miss is that in modern day, Arabized Egypt people still run the whole spectrum of color as the depictions of various pharaohs from Dynastic Egypt did as well. Everything from white to brown to black. It just feels weird that it seems most of the Egyptian characters in this movie were white people as that’s not accurate, the same way portraying Egypt as always being Arab or always being black or always being any sort of monolithic thing.

    • @pepepecaspicapapas4726
      @pepepecaspicapapas4726 Год назад

      >white people exists due inbreeding
      It checks out

  • @CrayCrayslab
    @CrayCrayslab Год назад +67

    A lot of Egyptians are lighter skinned, I have several friends from there and only one of them looks like the folks in the prince of Egypt. One thing they’re all upset about is how Netflix made Cleopatra black, when she obviously isn’t

    • @justkittensbeingkittens5892
      @justkittensbeingkittens5892 Год назад +1

      You can’t say *she obviously isn’t * she definitely had white from her father, but we have no idea who her mother was. It’s most likely she was Grecian but we can’t know for absolute sure.

    • @DapaChrons
      @DapaChrons Год назад +1

      Cleo was Greek anyway

    • @UwU-235
      @UwU-235 21 день назад

      @@justkittensbeingkittens5892 this whole we dont know for sure nonsense is a modern thing that people came up with, its been well established through historical documents that cleo was an incest baby. she is completely greek. the only thing up in the air about cleos mother is if it was cleo v or cleo vi and even then most documents point towards cleo v with the ones pointing towards cleo vi being vague and murky at best.

  • @kazuma_matata1707
    @kazuma_matata1707 Год назад +42

    As someone who has many interest for Egyptian culture, i can say that this movie could make a better story if they involves Egyptian gods and goddesses. The gods could either be a guide for Nefer, or they could help Nefer and her team to go to the future to steal back what the archeologist had stolen from them (like they could be the one who makes the portal and gives them time limit). The movie makes a lot of nonsense plot, and refuse to explain it. I just kinda hope that if they really make a sequel, Let’s hope it’ll gives us more to the story and telling us more as to why the mummies are still alive even after thousands of years being buried under ground.

  • @Tardisntimbits
    @Tardisntimbits Год назад +396

    To be completely fair to the film, if you know anything about Ancient Egyptian mythology, particularly the funereal rites and the implications of them, you'll know that going in, the afterlife is MEANT to be a continuation of real life. Pharoahs, nobles, and (to a MUCH lesser extent) common folk were buried with little statues called 'ushabti'. They were meant to serve them in the afterlife, so that the lives they knew would continue. The statues were meant to allow those that were buried with them to do the work the deceased did in life, if they so chose to use them. Life in the Field of Reeds was meant to be the optimal version of the life they once lived, free from illness, suffering and stife. For the everyday Egyptian, if their body is prepared properly, and their heart is weighed as pure(NOTE: I am oversimplifying this a GREAT deal, the journey through the afterlife as per the Book of the Dead is complex), then they could expect their life to just continue on as normal. Pharoahs would be ascended to Godhood, and their servants could expect to continue their service when they die. So, yes, merchants would still be merchants, whether their shabtis did the work, or they themselves. Life would move on, as per the beliefs of the time (which also vary depending on the time period).
    All that being said, it doesn't prevent this movie from being a vapid mess, lol.

  • @unticinesetrans
    @unticinesetrans Год назад +13

    As a European I was *bombarded* by ads for this movie, I'm so glad to see Saber talk about this

  • @yundarling4941
    @yundarling4941 Год назад +15

    "They look white" have you seen Remi Malik? Or any other irl Egyptian?

  • @seleuf
    @seleuf Год назад +262

    9:21 Not sure I agree with this sentiment? The whole thing about bandage-wrapped undead monsters coming back to hunt the living is a Western thing. The Ancient Egyptian thing with mummies was to make sure they made it to the afterlife with all their stuff, body and _beauty_ included.

    • @erismason3441
      @erismason3441 Год назад +32

      I agree with you... disagreeing with Saber here. I always thought the whole wrapped, shambling, moaning mummy thing was a Hollywood invention that was likely (don't know for sure but hey, it's Hollywood) insensitive to actual Egyptian culture.

    • @tonypringles2285
      @tonypringles2285 Год назад

      well they failed at keeping them beautiful

    • @KashaLupul
      @KashaLupul Год назад +1

      ​@tonypringles2285 they look like Egyptians I guess they aren't your jam
      But the male lead was foooine

    • @Salamandy2.0
      @Salamandy2.0 Год назад +2

      ​@@KashaLupulsame here lol...

  • @LichCrypt
    @LichCrypt Год назад +668

    He admits to be ignorant about the topic of Egyptian history and mythology, then proceeds to complain about things that are actually accurate.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +1

      Sabers right, Ancient Egyptians were black. Stop whitewashing culture

    • @sepulcher_stalker
      @sepulcher_stalker Год назад +203

      I agree. He really should have done more research. The Egyptians in afterlife were, to my understanding, supposed to look exactly the same as the time they died. And their afterlife mirrored the real world! At least that's one thing the movie got accurate...

    • @LichCrypt
      @LichCrypt Год назад +154

      @@sepulcher_stalker Something that pissed me off a little bit was his fixation on a "portal."
      I'm sorry, but there was no "portal" to the afterlife in Egyptian mythology. The Tomb itself was the portal to the afterlife, which certain souls could use back and forth. Their means of travel was the sarcophagus (except for the Pharaohs, they got special boats).
      We also have to consider that in the ancient world, their Underworlds were physical locations and not "other dimensions." For example, the Greeks believed that they could reach Hades through caves. It was sort of a mix of the two concepts for the Egyptians - Duat was both a physical location and a spiritual realm, which is why they placed such emphasis in burying people with their belongings.
      So yeah, no portal. All that was needed was the tomb.

    • @BBJ111
      @BBJ111 Год назад +97

      @Keebs I think because stereotypically in western culture, we think of Egyptians as dark skinned when many of them are actually a lighter shade of brown. There are also lots of African Americans that claim ancient Egyptians were black when I've seen MANY actual Egyptians online get angry by this claim saying that black people are stealing their people and culture from them trying to claim it as their own when Egyptians are their own thing, it's their own race, their own people, and their own culture. As An American who knows better, I apologize for them.

    • @kittysaurus2006
      @kittysaurus2006 Год назад

      @@BBJ111 we never said Egyptians were black and this is coming from an actual black person maybe you need to mind your business and stay in your lane. We know that Egyptians are their own race😒

  • @foxkenji
    @foxkenji Год назад +6

    One thing we can all note in this animation is that all of the Egyptian characters are correctly and accurately depicted to look like, you know, actual Egyptians and NOT how that Netflix Cleopatra fake documentary falsely depicts them.

  • @party4lifedude
    @party4lifedude Год назад +11

    The character design for Princess Nefer is so captivating and nice. I wish she was written and animated into something more worthwhile.

    • @jcf_plus
      @jcf_plus Месяц назад

      Dude, that's my line!

  • @kaciekk
    @kaciekk Год назад +704

    It's really unfortunate that this film did not have good writing, because I think the animation style is actually really appealing

    • @Scrofar
      @Scrofar Год назад +112

      The style is kind of basic to me, maybe even generic, but still more appealing than most other films who lack any artistic style. The animators did a great job.

    • @osets2117
      @osets2117 Год назад +15

      It looks like yet another Disney movie, safe and generic

    • @THahhhh
      @THahhhh Год назад +31

      ​@@Scrofar its giving peabody and sherman

    • @aerickmon3350
      @aerickmon3350 Год назад +5

      It makes the girl really cute

    • @mattwolf7698
      @mattwolf7698 Год назад +3

      It looks the same as most other animated movies out now

  • @Jonathan_Collins
    @Jonathan_Collins Год назад +667

    That is genuinely surprising. I heard about this movie coming out this year but ended up finding out that it isn’t an American movie, which would definitely explain why many people haven’t heard of this. But it is genuinely surprising that this is somehow a success. Makes me wanna check it out a bit

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +3

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @argo9750
      @argo9750 Год назад +18

      I saw it because monster girls are my jam. It was definitely aimed at younger demographic. Wouldn't recommend it if you're older than 12 lol

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Год назад +11

      @@argo9750 The trailer and its lame jokes severely underwhelmed me... but since Saber brought so much attention to the waifu mummy, I might just change my mind and go see it.

    • @OpinionParade
      @OpinionParade Год назад +6

      Worth it, just to support a smaller studio, and non-American production.
      I believe he said this was a Mexican studio working in partnership with Warner Bros and with British casting?
      Seems like the sort of stuff we should encourage.

    • @MrTHF
      @MrTHF Год назад +24

      ​@@OpinionParade Spanish*. I live in the Spanish city where 4Cats is located.

  • @1sdani
    @1sdani Год назад +13

    Actually, those aren't slaves. While the Egyptians did practice slavery, the pyramids and other such megalithic structures were built by generally well paid farmers during the flooding season. It was an honour to build structures for the gods, and to let slaves assist in their creation would be seen as disrespectful to the gods and too respectful to the slaves.

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +1

      Yeah, slavery was a thing back then but mass slavery didn't become big in Egypt until ~700 years after the pyramids were built. I like that all the blocks on the pyramids had their work group's signature etched into them

  • @dumbythiccdoor
    @dumbythiccdoor Год назад +17

    Egyptians from what i've seen tend to be pretty light skinned because of how far north they are, they can be darker skinned but not usually much more than like a dark tan. up until the term was ceased from being used Egyptians and other north Africans were considered as Caucasians

  • @candycane1744
    @candycane1744 Год назад +514

    This movie had a weird and predictable plot but at the same time it was a breathe of fresh air from all these reboots and sequels

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +7

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Год назад +57

      Or the millions of superhero movies that come out. Maybe that’s why this movie did so well, we were judging it on a curve.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 10 месяцев назад

      💯💯💯💯👍

  • @entity-36572-b
    @entity-36572-b Год назад +83

    The ancient Egyptian believed the afterlife to be a world nearly identical to are own, with sleep food and labour all remaining necessary over there. The portrail of mummies engaging in these things is therefore in line with what we would expect.

    • @faeb.9618
      @faeb.9618 Год назад +7

      yknow this is the first time i hear about how the actual afterline in egyptian myths is since like most people i'm more familiar with the entering into it part with the whole anubis judging your soul part, so i guess that would be more of a fault of the movie not establishing this is an actual thing in myths, which is still a shame because they could've gone more into that

    • @MetalSonicReject
      @MetalSonicReject Год назад +4

      That actually sounds like a very down to Earth afterlife.

    • @entity-36572-b
      @entity-36572-b Год назад +5

      @@MetalSonicReject Well that's only the part humans go to when they die. The others are a bit wilder, and feature copious snakes.
      If you're interested in a summary of those, I can recommend Overly Sarcastic Productions' video on the path of Amun Ra.

  • @samfucyu6196
    @samfucyu6196 9 месяцев назад +4

    Also interesting to note - coming from someone studying Egyptology, that the name of the female protagonist (Nefer), is a very common hieroglyph found in plenty of holy spaces meaning "Perfect".
    It represents a spine with a ribcage and the trachea continuing which makes it look kind of like an ancient version of a guitar.

  • @scoutart1508
    @scoutart1508 Год назад +16

    I think you really underestimated the elements that this movie has, because at the very least, despite not necessarily having that complex writing compared to the prince of egypt or something, at the very least it has an enjoyable and cute execution with some solid animation, characters that have charm with a female mummy that has potential to be an icon, fun world building, a good message of facing your past fears along the social commitment of trying to do what one really loves with passion, and really nice musical moments that stand out on their own, not to mention the likable relationship the the main characters go throgh romantically. so I am glad that this is mainly another achievement for spanish animation, even though it is hugely successful in the ranks of other hollywood mainstream and even not by the masterful CG works of Enrique Gato or Sergio Pablos Klaus, so we better support more the strong competition that Spain is getting at on par with Hollywood, makes sense?

  • @adrius103
    @adrius103 Год назад +157

    As a spanish dude, I can say that Tad the Lost Explorer (or as we say here Tadeo Jones) is one of the most popular spanish animation films; they made a series based on the first movie, several tv programs and contests, and even a summer camp (plus two more movies on the franchise)

    • @adrius103
      @adrius103 Год назад +9

      @Evan Knight why?

    • @ekapru
      @ekapru Год назад +8

      Si, me acuerdo. Me encanta la primera parte, las dos últimas no las he visto. La serie si.
      Mola mucho.

    • @solus8685
      @solus8685 Год назад +2

      ​@@adrius103 because the movie is godawful

    • @genialkirby
      @genialkirby Год назад +1

      I'm from Spain and I agree with It 🇪🇦🇪🇸

    • @squirolz
      @squirolz Год назад +5

      @@solus8685 Yeah, it's pretty awful by animated movies standards, but it's a "masterpiece" in terms of spanish animated movies. Yeah... we haver VERY low standards when it comes about making movies... that's why i don't watch spanish movies.

  • @ARandomMinecraftVillager
    @ARandomMinecraftVillager Год назад +152

    Something completely random about this that I love is that the studio's name is 4 Cats
    "Cuatro Gatos" ("Four Cats" in Spanish) is an idiom that means something like "Random People," so saying the movie was made by Cuatro Gatos in Spanish sounds like you are saying "It was made by some randos" lol

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +30

      "A very small ammount of randos" To be specific.

    • @MrTHF
      @MrTHF Год назад +7

      Pensaba que era solo "poca gente"

    • @P0tra33
      @P0tra33 Год назад +2

      It is also usually used more for discribing a setting with very few people, ex: there will be 4 cats at the party (there won’t be much people at the party) = habrá cuatro gatos en la fiesta

    • @alexanderthealright
      @alexanderthealright Год назад +5

      Ironically, it seems like there were only, like, four people in any given scene in this film.
      E M P T Y

    • @Biscuity_hole
      @Biscuity_hole Год назад +4

      ​@@alexanderthealright Right? The place where they're taken is seemingly empty and with just 4 characters to fill it (Tut, Nefer, the kid, and the crocodile). I can see why Saberspark said it's boring and the world building doesn't make any sense

  • @jordanWAH
    @jordanWAH Год назад +7

    "I wish the egyption gods were more a part of the story...who's King Thut?" Did you really just say that? LOL

    • @jcf_plus
      @jcf_plus Месяц назад

      😂😂😂

  • @DuckStrider
    @DuckStrider Год назад +6

    16:56 The men that built the pyramids were not slaves. Just workers.

  • @KesiIshtar
    @KesiIshtar Год назад +241

    I wish they went more bold with the idea. That their world IS an afterlife and they are sent here by the gods to fix the fading afterlife (removing bodies and taking items from the tomb would take those things away from them in the afterlife)
    Perhaps instead of the bad guys being OBVIOUSLY bad, make them well meaning and having to face a reality that in their rush to discover more about them, it was harming them.
    It would be a very interesting story

    • @Inrezairo
      @Inrezairo Год назад +26

      That sounds so much better than the story presented in the review and likely would have been far more respectful to all parties.

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero Год назад +4

      That's a better more convicing review on your part than this video.

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 Год назад +9

      I guess it goes to show that not every animated film needs an evil villain, unlike what some disgruntled Disney fans are spouting.

    • @moodycowcrafts4862
      @moodycowcrafts4862 Год назад

      Yeah - really stick it to the 'we're preserving history' side of the 'the british shouldn't be held accountable for the thievery in its past' (and no you can't have the stuff we stole back) argument.

    • @alexandraschroeder8377
      @alexandraschroeder8377 Год назад +18

      Sorry for the wall of test, but I actually love this idea. Especially since it can convey the idea of stripping cultures of their history unintentionally (sometimes even intentionally) in an effort to preserve it for future generations to understand and appreciate just how much humanity has changed; mainly through displaying them at museums. Sure, to an outsider of one culture, museums are doing the right thing, but to people that live in said culture, these outsiders are stealing bits of their history and their rightful heritage from them; if not also desecrating the dead in an effort to make a quick buck.

  • @distance7721
    @distance7721 Год назад +276

    So, there were a LOT of different pharaohs from a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Cleopatra, for example, came from the Ptolemaic Dynasty, which was Greek. Native Egyptians are actually closer to Middle-Easterners in terms of appearance and genetic background, rather than Africans, though there were a few dynasties that came from further south in the African continent. Overall, though, it'd be pretty accurate to portray Egyptians as pretty light-skinned

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +4

      Native egyptians were black peoples, Arabs conquered Egypt

    • @distance7721
      @distance7721 Год назад +78

      @@YourKingJDG Afrocentrist posting cope

    • @EnraiChannel
      @EnraiChannel Год назад +39

      @@YourKingJDG You could use a map.

    • @Argo123_.0
      @Argo123_.0 Год назад +48

      @@YourKingJDG only the dynasty of the black pharaohs, the other multiple millennia long dynasties are not

    • @distance7721
      @distance7721 Год назад +10

      @arianna1906 True, though a historically accurate Egypt would still be majority light-skinned, and there's not much wrong with the models in the film

  • @gabyyyyyyyyy
    @gabyyyyyyyyy Год назад +15

    as a spanish person i can assure you tad the lost explorer is really great and peak spanish media in my opinion. also its really known here

  • @OnlyPretending
    @OnlyPretending Год назад +21

    Saberspark: "Why are you white?"
    Me: *Facepalm* "Fucking american..."
    They clearly look Mediterranean, and a slightly lighter tan might actually very fitting depending on which time period we are talking about and given they are royalties. Also we don't actually know exactly what shade of tan the ancient Egyptians would have had anyways, so what's the point of even arguing this to begin with? If anything they might look a bit Spanish, which would make sense given its a Spanish film. But then again, the Spanish are not "white" as you call it either.

    • @LaPaginadiLeonardo
      @LaPaginadiLeonardo 3 месяца назад +2

      Remember: they made the Cleopatra "documentary"

  • @sagarzazumikel
    @sagarzazumikel Год назад +112

    Actually, "Tad the lost explorer" became a trilogy here in Spain (under the name "Tadeo Jones") and many of the voice actors in that movie actually ended up having roles in "Mummies", really.
    It was quite a flex for Spanish CGI animation, but the studio in this film was actually made from scratch by the former crew of the Tad series.
    I wasn't a big fan of the series, but boy, do voice acting schools love to use the Tad movies as practice. 😳

    • @Scatscar1985
      @Scatscar1985 Год назад +1

      Warner Bros was also high on "Quest for Camelot".....so....yeah....

    • @Scatscar1985
      @Scatscar1985 Год назад +1

      NICKELBACK?!?

    • @gabyyyyyyyyy
      @gabyyyyyyyyy Год назад +1

      im no movie expert but tad is a great film in my opinion

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Год назад +1

      Wow, I watched the first Tad movie when I was in my youth.

    • @bigseven8227
      @bigseven8227 Год назад +2

      I didn't know that, but it makes sense since Tad already has mummies in it. I've watched the first Tad movie as a kid. I thought it was mediocre but my siblings really hated it for some reason.

  • @EthanKnight97
    @EthanKnight97 Год назад +62

    Saberspark's knowledge of ancient Egypt is about on par with Netflix. He'll be denied entry to Egypt.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +2

      Because it’s the truth, they are trying to change history

    • @Talkshowhorse_Echna
      @Talkshowhorse_Echna Год назад +12

      @@YourKingJDG Wich one is the truth? Cause I really don't know what you are talking about.

    • @KashaLupul
      @KashaLupul Год назад +4

      @@YourKingJDG black people are not egyptians.

  • @icanbreathfireyo446
    @icanbreathfireyo446 Год назад +11

    The reason why the scales were so important is because you would go through this ceremony that judged you and all you had done. If you were a good then congrats you get to go to the field of reeds. If not a crocodile ate your heart, and depending on your worst offense you would go down to a certain area of the underworld.
    Based on what I was told and have seen at least. Ra's boat "sails" through the various areas of the underworld, and some parts are explicitly described as where bad people go, like the part full of pits of fire and titans who can spew out flames.

  • @Game_Hero
    @Game_Hero Год назад +16

    Not your best review to be frank. Should have researched egyptian mythology a bit more to be able to convincingly show us how it could have been adapted better, make your points be something else than "it's boring" over and over. Also, are we there again with the arbitrary subjective "race" labelling of people based on skin tone? They look Egyptian enough to me, like the goddess Isis. And with other americansplaining of the sole dogmatic "right" way how representation is best shown, ask the Egyptians about what they think of that with your things like Netflix's Cleopatra. Many people including me are fine about any culture and especially physical appearance writting about and dubbing our cultures, so this should go the other way too.

  • @someguy4384
    @someguy4384 Год назад +40

    "Why are you white?"
    All of the later Pharos were white. Specifically, Greek. Cleopatra, for example, was fairly fair skinned. Go back far enough, and sure. Less white and more Arab, though even then there's some debate on the actual physical appearance of ancient Egyptians. The general consensus is they weren't white or black, and were probably close to Arab..but there's some differences in how they're depicted in art compared to other middle eastern citizens at the time. It's messy.
    Basically any Pharo post-Alexander the Great was pale skinned. Most didn't even speak Egyptian (I believe Cleopatra was the first).

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад

      They were not Arab, they were black

    • @someguy4384
      @someguy4384 Год назад +22

      @@YourKingJDG
      No they weren't. Lmao.
      Not only is that not historically accurate, it's an erasure of their culture. Egyptians were culturally, ethnically, and spiritually different from their African neighbours.
      I also didn't say they were black. Again, they were probably something else. A slightly darker in-between of Arab and Northern African, but ethnically different enough to not be classified as "black"

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +1

      @@someguy4384 Nope they were black and you’re trying to erase Black history and culture. Ik you like the culture but that’s no excuse to steal it.

    • @someguy4384
      @someguy4384 Год назад +1

      @@YourKingJDG
      Well I'm Jewish, so I have my own historically oppressed culture to deal with. Don't want to go adopting another one. That's just too much historical trauma for one body to bear.
      Again, look at Indians. They're culturally different than the Chinese, who they share a border with, and ethnically different as well. There's never been a point where they depicted themselves as the stereotypical Asian. Slanted eyes, shorter bodies, thin, rounder heads, yellow-tan skin. Nope. Always have and always will be Indian.
      Africa actually has a dozen super interesting ancient kingdoms and cultures that were all relevant even up until recently (relatively speaking). There was an entire Kingdom so rich with gold they literally wore it as clothing, for example
      What you're doing is black washing history. No different than the people who claim "X European historical figure was actually black!" Lmao.
      Show unbiased, accredited evidence to the contrary of historical consensus. Then I'll take your claims seriously. Until then, why not try celebrating the actual African kingdoms? The Ghana Empire, mentioned above, would be an amazing place to start.

    • @marenrisu9711
      @marenrisu9711 Год назад

      @JDG @Some Guy Well I guess you are both right. Stuart Tyson Smith writes in the 2001 Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt that "Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as 'black', while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans.”
      By the way JDG I don't think Some Guy wants to steal anything or erases Black history and culture. The world is more than black or white you know? Espacially in North Africa and the Mediterranean Sea

  • @KeebeThePlush
    @KeebeThePlush Год назад +246

    You aren’t wrong when you said definitely feels like a “the book of life” or “coco” with Egyptian themes and it’s interesting to see films that succeed in other countries

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +2

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @Z3N1TY0
      @Z3N1TY0 Год назад

      @@p-__⁠​⁠​⁠what?☠️

  • @whatever9097
    @whatever9097 Год назад +8

    I think the thing I’m most confused by is why they turn into skeletons. Like do they know what mummification is? They could’ve kept the point about the light but why not just change it to their face and wraps turn gray and rotten.

  • @MalekitGJ
    @MalekitGJ Год назад +19

    Saber.... ya know that Egyptians were mostly Mediterranean.... Right?

  • @ratoh1710
    @ratoh1710 Год назад +166

    As for the skin color of the mummies that would depend on what era they are from, since the ruling class of Egypt has massively changed throughout the years. Pharaos from the dynasties of Egypt were native Egyptians to my knowledge but from the Ptolemaic period onwards the pharaos were macedonian after being conquered by Alexander the Decent. This lasted until the Roman Empire overthrew it and instated roman rulers. This was also the last period where mummification took place from what I could find from a quick google search since the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire ended it and the subsequent Muslim conquests of the area put a definitive end to the practice.

    • @ratoh1710
      @ratoh1710 Год назад +29

      @PlessieNessie The Ptolemaic Pharaohs were all of Greek descent and as such white and the succeeding Roman Egypt recognized the Roman emperor as the pharaoh, though some of them were not fully white, such as the Severan dynasty emperors who were of partially Arab descent since the first emperor of the dynasty married a native Syrian. Several other emperors of Arab descent existed as well, such as Phillip the Arab, who was native Syrian.

    • @Justin-pe9cl
      @Justin-pe9cl Год назад +3

      @PlessieNessie DUGHVERSITY!!!

    • @Justin-pe9cl
      @Justin-pe9cl Год назад +2

      @PlessieNessie Diversity dur.

    • @happymate8943
      @happymate8943 Год назад +2

      ​@@ratoh1710
      So for the Arab part they are apart of subrace of semites. Hebrews/Jews, phoenicians/cannitinites, and arabs are semites. It's likely Egyptians were semites as well.

    • @kiplingwasafurry1108
      @kiplingwasafurry1108 Год назад +13

      Finally someone sensible on the Egyptians were white/black debate. It's not even in my specification of history but even I know that Egypt was and is a very diverse place spanning milennia.

  • @Rembreiker_lychec9257
    @Rembreiker_lychec9257 Год назад +247

    You know, I kinda feel like this could be a fun movie. The animation's pretty decent, like around Arthur 3 (Luc Besson) decent, the concept of a mummy world is actually quite uncommon, at least in my opinion, and mummies exploring the modern world seems kinda fascinating.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @arachnerd4493
      @arachnerd4493 Год назад +5

      it wasn't, i tried my best to find ways to be invested but you kind of already know how it's going to go from the beginning. the visuals were the main good part about it and Ed's voice acting in the english dub was authentic, but i don't know what else you could commend them on
      source: saw it

    • @screameureka7029
      @screameureka7029 Год назад +5

      i havent seen it but the animation is pretty good. i like the details on the outfits and the 2d opening credits (?) that saber showed looked cool

    • @bearerofbadnews1375
      @bearerofbadnews1375 Год назад +6

      Whelp I think people were judging it on a curve the plots very uninteresting. But hey it’s still better than Winnie the Pooh blood and honey, the Grinch horror movie, and Arthur Malediction the horror movie spin off of the Arthur movies.

    • @lewisgale62
      @lewisgale62 Год назад

      Trust me. You don’t want to see this film

  • @YuaXIII
    @YuaXIII 10 месяцев назад +6

    >"do your homework and research it"
    >"I don't know anything about Ancient Egypt"
    ... man.

  • @Prince_Smugarina
    @Prince_Smugarina Год назад +16

    Egyptians actually did have lighter skin at times. Due mostly in part to their ancient neighbors and such taking over the place.
    The dark skin is usually due to being deeply tanned. Its a tricky thing, but Cleopatra for example was Macedonian decent, and thus was lighter-skinned than you'd think.

    • @Val17282
      @Val17282 Год назад

      I read Ancient Egypt's diverse skin tones was also caused by the absorption of some african populations from nearby civilizations like Nubia

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +1

      @@Val17282 I looked at studies and they said that only really happened in the last 1500 years which is long after those guys became mummies

    • @KashaLupul
      @KashaLupul Год назад

      @clarehidalgo once they started mixing south Egypt was doomed lol

  • @deltacharlieecho4732
    @deltacharlieecho4732 Год назад +238

    Just for the record, I think the character design is quite well done. I was engaged to a girl for a while and was with her for 3 years total that looked almost identical to the female lead in this movie; eerily similar actually. My ex was lebanese and I'd say the characters do very well in terms of implying ethnicity by facial construction. Yeah Lebanon isn't Egypt but at least geographically it is in a similar area and an effort was made.

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +15

      Based on an article "ancient Egyptians were genetically more closely related to people of the Near East - present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Palestine - than they were to contemporary Egyptians." so it really does makes sense

    • @deltacharlieecho4732
      @deltacharlieecho4732 Год назад

      @@clarehidalgo Lotus Eaters Podcast just did a segment about how Cleopatra wasn’t actually Egyptian with is what even made me think about this.

    • @kiplingwasafurry1108
      @kiplingwasafurry1108 Год назад +7

      I used to work with this guy who looked very white but I later found out he was Egyptian and it surprised me. I've also interracted with other Egyptians and seen photos of famous ones and to me these characters could certainly pass as Egyptian.

    • @Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger
      @Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Год назад +5

      @@kiplingwasafurry1108 Knew a kid growing up, thought he was just generic white guy - Nope, Palestinian.
      Never would've known had someone not told me

  • @mesousagaby740
    @mesousagaby740 Год назад +62

    This actually got a pretty wide release in Puerto Rico, mostly because our theatre chain's logic is that, even if it's a very mediocre-looking animated film, it needs to be in every theatre so they can get a family movie around here. If you're an artsier-looking animated movie, however, you only get a few cities, which is...honestly kinda strange. It is kinda changing, though, as Suzune also got a big wide release here.

    • @ddd7291
      @ddd7291 Год назад +3

      Omg yes I remember seeing the trailer en el cine and i questioned its relevance like i never really saw its marketing online

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class Год назад +6

    If memory serves, the ancient Egyptian afterlife actually was said to be underground. A lot of ancient religions worked that way, Hades was just underground, too. Olympus is literally just a mountain with a pantheon on top.

  • @62nayra
    @62nayra Год назад +6

    Spanish here (sorry for my english) actually all cgi animation movies get so much media recognition in here, despite not being good movies at all. But the history of animation in Spain is so poor that cause media get really HYPED like "WOW TRUE SPANISH ANIMATION". Also, I suppose Mommies get this good rates because actually is a very european production, Spain, England, France, plus it's an easy and basic kids movie so I can say they all collaborated to make high numbers with this film (kinda sad because some parts of the movie are kinda funny but at the end it's just a really forgettable)

  • @twojac20
    @twojac20 Год назад +30

    First point, not all ancient Egyptians were darker like Cleopatra for instance she is Macedonian Greek.
    Second point, the movie is making so much money because of princess nephyr 😂 very nice character design

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +7

      That 2017 study of the DNA of 90 mummies found that "ancient Egyptians were genetically more closely related to people of the Near East - present-day Syria, Lebanon, Israel and Palestine - than they were to contemporary Egyptians." The mummies had 0% Sub-Saharan DNA, while modern Egyptians average 20% sub-Saharan DNA

  • @breadpilled2587
    @breadpilled2587 Год назад +25

    the debunking of Egyptians being all dark skinned black people seemingly made some people think that a) they were white and b) they were ALL WHITE. Egyptians were incredibly diverse, especially considering how long their civilization existed. There were white-skinned Egyptians, brown-skinned Egyptians, dark-skinned Egyptians... The concept of race didn't even exist as we know it. When it comes to skin color, it was anything you can imagine. Different time periods had different levels of diversity. Different rulers had different skin tones. They were not what we think of as "white". They were not what we think of as "black". They were not modern people with modern races.

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +3

      Their skin color range was similar to that of the Middle east, I mean the closest genetically to Ancient Egyptians they found in the 2017 study of 90 mummies are modern Farmers in Jordan than to modern Egyptians

    • @hokton8555
      @hokton8555 Год назад +1

      i think a major problem is that not every "white" person has actually light-skin

  • @TheDahaka1
    @TheDahaka1 Год назад +22

    I'm sorry, but the "you must use egyptian actors for egyptian characters" argument is so stupid to me. We're not talking about Hollywood, where apparently half the world is gathered, we're talking about Britain, where the people doing voice acting profesionally are way more limited, meaning that if you look exclusively for egyptian voice actors you'll probably tank the quality.
    I understand the argument of not avoiding, and even preferring correct nationality voice actors for characters, but actively searching for them even when they aren't there is just dumb.
    Also, you're basically saying that black voice actors should be segregated to black characters, and that's extremely backwards. You can't have anyone non-white voiced by their correct nationalities, and then have anyone do the white characters, that's still racist as f*ck. Voice is voice, the color of your skin shouldn't matter at all.

  • @spooddabreadloaf
    @spooddabreadloaf Год назад +9

    Didn’t you say in the Velma video that changing fictional characters races isn’t a bad thing 🤨

    • @KaiserMazoku
      @KaiserMazoku Год назад

      what does that have to do with anything here

    • @spooddabreadloaf
      @spooddabreadloaf Год назад +4

      @@KaiserMazoku i was at the part of him complaining that they were British or smthn

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero Год назад +4

      @@KaiserMazoku criticizing the skin tones of the movie for the egyptian characters as a bad thing? Double-standard?

    • @KaiserMazoku
      @KaiserMazoku Год назад

      @@spooddabreadloaf The voice actors are British, the characters are Egyptian

    • @spooddabreadloaf
      @spooddabreadloaf Год назад +7

      @@KaiserMazoku he complained about the characters looking white specifically 💀

  • @generaledelogu1892
    @generaledelogu1892 Год назад +131

    The "white" comment can be a bit misleading. The actor choice is a fine point to debate, but assuming all Egyptians should be more "tan" is a bit incorrect. Skin tone around the Mediterranean especially can be around this olive/tan coloring (looking at some Italians or Spaniards you may assume they are not white because of their darker complexion). Certainly skin tone can be darker or lighter than the average (separate ethnic backgrounds like Turkic heritage for one is a big difference in Anatolia), but criticizing the lighter-than-expected skin tone of the characters seems a bit out of place

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +1

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @TheVillainousSoul
      @TheVillainousSoul Год назад +28

      In my opinion it should have more variety. Like Thut (being outdoors more) could have had more of a tan for example. It looked like mostly the bg characters had tans but there could have been more of a difference in the main cast for example. Since I'm pretty sure Egypt is very diverse from what I saw people say.

    • @veggsbacon1891
      @veggsbacon1891 Год назад +39

      I agree. Who gives a damn about a voice actor's skin? Kratos is voiced by a black man, but honestly, that doesn't matter. It's his performance and style that really matters.

    • @jackfraust1002
      @jackfraust1002 Год назад

      It's just another form of racism

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +5

      Egyptians were black Africans, atleast in this time.

  • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
    @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Год назад +143

    Egypt was a very cosmopolitan place with a wide variety of skin tones present at least somewhere in the population. The most numerous group should have about the same range as what you would see if you google “Egyptians” and see contemporary Egyptians though. Could also google “Faiyyum death mask” to see more realistic ancient depictions of Egyptians.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +9

      The original Egyptians were not White or Arab. They were Black Africans, the Arabs and Persians invaded later.
      This is a romanticization of African culture.

    • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
      @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Год назад +39

      @@YourKingJDG Yeah yeah that’s great and all, but that is total gibberish that only works on people who don’t know how invasions affect local populations on average.
      Typically, the invader does leave a mark on the genetics of the local population; but they remain a minor part of the larger whole. Egypt is a very fertile region with a massive population compared to most other regions on earth in the ancient past. The idea that could be completely supplanted by a much smaller outside group is just completely ridiculous.
      Total extermination and replacement is rare and should not be assumed to be the norm just because it happened in the US.
      Persians invaded Egypt, but did not settle the region in any significant numbers, so the point there is moot.
      Arabs are literally from the same linguistic and genetic stock as Egyptians and a fair amount of black African people groups though. Could it be that you just don’t understand skin tone isn’t the most significant part of genetic heritage above all else?
      All people groups were originally black Africans. Clearly an outside invader is not necessary to change that.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +4

      @@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Australian aboriginals got took of the map, Millions of South Americans fell to only a few thousand conquistadors, native Americans of course got wiped out, etc.
      This wasn’t a government wipe, they wanted to take over the entire area. Which they ended up doing. Exactly why Sudan had to split in two after the abuse from the Arabs, same thing happened to Egypt.
      And it wasn’t total extermination either, the Egyptians or should I say Kemetians just ended up moving out of the area.

    • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
      @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Год назад +22

      @@YourKingJDG For the aboriginal Australians: Their population across the entire continent was not significantly large in the first place, they were subject to disease, and the British Empire was uniquely predisposed to murder/intentionally destroy the native population of an area they were settling. Essentially Australia's story is very similar to the United States, which is the country that fits what you're imagining the best.
      As for the Inca: you're literally buying into a racist myth that the conquistadors single-handedly annihilated the Inca Empire. They fought protracted wars that involved native allies and fought against frequent rebellion. And that's not to forget _millions upon millions of indigenous people still live across South America_ , and these countries are on average much more mixed than the US.
      I strongly get the impression you don't have the concept in your brain that people don't have to have the same culture as their ancestors, and that a change doesn't mean that they aren't ultimately still related to their ancestors. Culture is not genetic. You know what decided who was a "Greek" or a "Turk" when population exchanges were occurring between Greece and Turkey? Whether the person in question was christian or muslim.
      And again: Arabs are literally ultimately from the same genetic and linguistic stock as Egyptians and numerous other groups in north and east Africa. They didn't appear out of nowhere from space. They shared ancestors with the Egyptians and had already been living in parts of modern Egypt like Sinai for thousands of years.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад

      @@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes Who said they appeared out of nowhere? I already told you they invaded egypt and became the new “Egyptians”
      As for South America, I know the conquistadors didn’t directly kill millions. But they were able to wipe out many with disease then take over areas without getting swarmed because the inhabitants treated them like gods. Spain then subjugated south america.
      This mixed with rampant mixing and rape caused a birth of a new people, latinos.
      As for Egypt, that was never their culture to begin with, they’ve only started trying to claim it within the last 200 years when white peoples raided Africa and began to travel within it. White people then romanticized it and drew artwork of themselves as the pharaohs. Arabs saw this and began to envision themselves as them too. Since they were born in Egypt they think they must come from there and instead of accepting their Arab heritage they instead clamor for something they see as exotic, something cool.

  • @tristanpuspus3331
    @tristanpuspus3331 Год назад +3

    Saber: Why did they make the mummy's beautiful?
    Writers when they first found mummies: ...

  • @Cutiepie-cy8td
    @Cutiepie-cy8td Год назад +2

    I just did some research on the Egyptian afterlife and I can clear you up on a few things:
    -The afterworld is supposed to be identical to the world of the living. Here the mummies have the ability to do the same things that they also did in their living days. One of the differences is, that the mummies live among the gods in this world and also get to eat the same food as the gods do.
    -Pregnancy may not work with these mummies but that doesn’t mean that Nefer and Thut having a child is entirely impossible. Since in the afterworld the mummies are capable of having whatever they want I’m pretty sure the gods would also be able to grant couples the wish of having a child of their own blood.
    -It’s actually mythologically accurate to access the world of the living dead through a secret doorway in the tomb of a deceased.
    -Same goes for dying in the afterlife, because it’s one of the things mentioned in “the book of death” that a deceased has to keep from happening.
    And about their skin color: the common folk are mostly the ones with dark skin since they always work outside in the sun. People who are light-skinned however are priests, officials and of course royals since they mostly stay indoors. Causing their skin to remain white. These groups of people are also the only ones who could afford a proper mummification.

  • @patorjk
    @patorjk Год назад +75

    If you google “egyptian people” you get a pretty wide variety of people. I don’t think either cartoon you showed really captures them.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +7

      I can’t speak for the time of cleopatra, at that point there was far too much traffic to know. But before it was just Black Africans.

    • @Dots321
      @Dots321 Год назад +37

      @@YourKingJDGthe Ancient Egyptians people usually think of weren’t black they were middle eastern. The black “Egyptians”(Cause they weren’t in Egypt proper but were Influenced by Egypt)were the Nubians who were just south of Egypt. There was the 25th dynasty of Egypt which was ruled by Nubians. Also cleopatra was Greek she was a descendant of Ptolemy a general of Alexander the Great.

    • @Alejandroigarabide
      @Alejandroigarabide Год назад +17

      You're correcting a guy who doesn't know people still live in Egypt (as seen in his dumb comment "we get egyptians in the modern world", like they were some kind of extinct people).
      Also, people from the USA are obsessed with seeing other countries depicted in film as only one race, and get offended when non-anglo-saxons are depicted as white.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +3

      @@Dots321 No, that’s false information, and the people you’re referring to are the sudanese people.
      Just like Sudan, Egypt got taken over by Arabs. But don’t act like Arabs were native to Egypt because they were not. The Black natives and Pharaohs originally there were pushed out.
      That’s like saying in 300 years that white people in Australia and North America are the native people and the native Americans and aboriginals never existed. Very disrespectful.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Год назад +1

      There was a lot of inbreeding in ancient Egypt, but people are focused on skin tone and not the deformities that they would have ended up with, if you're going to focus on the lesser of two evils for a cartoon, best to choose the one that won't scar people for life. Even so many people have already stated that Egypt was cosmopolitan and still is, like Dots said in the thread here, they had Cleo moving in from Greece for example

  • @joelwarren6005
    @joelwarren6005 Год назад +50

    I'm probably a little late here in suggesting this, but I'm pretty sure that the main villain's design (the British Egyptologist) was durectly modeled after Howard Carter, the infamous Egyptologist who discovered King Tutahnkamun's tomb in the Valley of the Kings, back in 1922. He probably serves to give a "face" to the British museum and Antiquties industry in whole, as those who are considered responsible for the "discovery" and "preservation" of many Egyptian treasures and antiquities of the 19th and 20th centuries.

    • @DapaChrons
      @DapaChrons Год назад +1

      Or could be Lord Carnarvon

  • @robertharris6092
    @robertharris6092 Год назад +4

    Does saber not know who fucking tutankhaman is???

  • @dmr2044
    @dmr2044 Год назад +7

    Civilisations from the past interacting with modern society is always going to be an extremely compelling premise to me, especially if any kind of mythology is incorporated. It would unfortunately seem that all too often it's only used for cheap humor such as "ooh wow a cellphone", just a blank plot point made for marketing, or it's just not used well at all :(

  • @MausBastion
    @MausBastion Год назад +37

    This movie started being as a Tad Lost Explorer spin-off, in which one of the side characters is a mummy. The idea was to explore their afterlife but they quickly dropped off the idea, for the best imo

    • @ogusaiyan8172
      @ogusaiyan8172 Год назад

      yeah especially because that character fucking sucks

  • @emcat52
    @emcat52 Год назад +75

    I feel the stakes would be higher if any injuries they sustained were permanent since they were dead and therefore unable to heal. They could still be "immortal" but they would life with the pain of those injuries for eternity. The light could also cause them to start decomposing which could have been their reason to avoid it. If those were the stakes the horror movie claim may have had some weight to it.

    • @moodycowcrafts4862
      @moodycowcrafts4862 Год назад +4

      I also wonder if there was a situation that if you did end up doing something 'bad' in the afterlife it would be tallied on your scale from being measured for good deeds in life and Ammit could just break through and come after them
      Don't know how that would line up with the whole 'only the good can enter the afterlife' alongside the lack of food strife etc that comes with the afterlife but I'd be fascinated to know if there was a way for the afterlife to be 'revoked' by the gods

  • @quicksilveryt4000
    @quicksilveryt4000 Год назад +4

    Oh yeah! I remember seeing a trailer for this before watching Puss In Boots 2. That's also roughly how long I remembered it's existance for.

  • @voodooopaque6357
    @voodooopaque6357 Год назад +5

    Egyptian is a theme I always appreciated, wouldn’t mind seeing more movies with that theme to it, rather its animated or live action

  • @RazorRex
    @RazorRex Год назад +166

    I liked this as a guilty pleasure- Nefer is definitely waifu material. But it was annoying that they used The Bangles Walk Like An Egyptian. I don’t hate the song, but it’s already been played countless times with other Egyptian-themed media and it’s just tiring at this point. That, and I’m pretty sure actual Egyptians are sick of that song too!

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад +1

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Год назад +5

      Defiantly? You mean definitely? Because those are two very different terms.

    • @RazorRex
      @RazorRex Год назад +4

      @@PikaLink91 Typo on my part fixed it.

    • @RazorRex
      @RazorRex Год назад +2

      @@PikaLink91 Also your the 2nd person to correct me on that.

    • @androidinblack5291
      @androidinblack5291 Год назад +6

      Actual Egyptian here: Yes.

  • @brunoyudi9555
    @brunoyudi9555 Год назад +15

    the british museum being the villain was genius lol

  • @Spicie95
    @Spicie95 Год назад +4

    From my Danish perspective, I think this movie is part of a growing trend of European cinemas feeling the effects of American production companies sending their content to streaming services. Since we are already used to dubbing content for children and adults know how to read subtitles, it doesn't really make a huge difference if the country of origin is the US or Spain. The British dubbing is probably the result of the movie going to cinemas in the UK and Ireland (I would imagine, but I don't know).
    It is a well-known fact that families will watch almost anything that is child friendly, so movies like this will do great if there is no better competition from more experienced filmmakers.

  • @noodle6353
    @noodle6353 Год назад +5

    At least they didn't pull a Disney and made an Egyptian as a black woman

  • @shortpettite
    @shortpettite Год назад +24

    Actually (and can't believe I'm writing an actually) the Egyptians believe that the afterlife was the same as the living life hence why they were buried with all their belongings and things they would need including some of their favorite foods. So the fact that the afterlife shown is no different from living life is accurate to the beliefs.
    EDIT: Though if you wanna be technical I suppose if it's their spirits in the afterlife then they shouldn't have looked like mummies. However, because they are mummies and thought they were being preserved then it would make sense they would think they kept their looks i.e. not horrifying looking.
    I think a fun concept would be to show them regular afterlife looking normal but then the soul gets pulled back to their bodies. Then kinda like the movie the mummy slowly regen and the whole they can't return blah blah. The British museum could come in because their bodies were there. Concept is kinda The Mummy from mummy perspective.

  • @bluelfsuma
    @bluelfsuma Год назад +13

    People not knowing about this film because it isn't American reminds me of when I figured out Nintendo was in Japan.
    (It was less "other countries can make stuff?" and more "I can get stuff from other countries?!" as a wee widdle goblin.)

  • @SummonerArthur
    @SummonerArthur Год назад +1

    I remember watching the ads for this movie during Christmas here in Brazil, and laughing my ass off, cuz there's nothing more christmasy than mummies.

  • @Ultrox007
    @Ultrox007 Год назад +22

    "But they're white..."
    Oh does he not know? Saber, Egyptians are historically closest related to modern Europeans and Middle-Easterners. Cleopatra is currently deduced to be a ginger.

    • @kreolado5880
      @kreolado5880 Год назад +7

      But Cleopatra wasn't even egyptian. She came from a greek dynasty. Most of her family members didn't even bother learning the ancient egyptian language or the egyptian tradition. Her ethnic background says nothing about the skin colour of actuall native amcient egyptians.

  • @SynsGhost
    @SynsGhost Год назад +60

    Mummy is that you?!

  • @danielsvetlichny5721
    @danielsvetlichny5721 Год назад +76

    I have just seen the film and I already am beginning to feel some frustrations.
    These are...
    - Nefer following Thut and Sekhem, making me wonder how on Earth did she get on to the lorry and boat (though apparently it was her seeing them through her telescope in the palace, but it doesn't explain much.)
    - A contrived "stage being interrupted" sequence
    - When the titular mummies were shown in certain light, we were supposed to see their skeletons, but clearly it was only MAKE-UP.
    -Thut going through the glass in which it contained Nefer in The British Museum, apparently there is a door to the glass but it didn't showed us that door (I know it is called The Carnaby Museum in the film but it is CLEARLY The British Museum.)
    - Probably the biggest frustration of them all. All the people of London, including Ed, not even asking who Thut, Sekhem, Nefer and Sekhem's little pet crocodile they are and why they were here in the first place. This paints all the humans as, apologies if I use the term, blind and even unsympathetic caricatures, as everyone knows that asking and questioning is what makes us human. (Though frankly, it could be that the executives must have tampered with the script or something or other, I don't know.) Even Ed calls that little crocodile a "dog" which is CLEARLY NOT a dog.
    However, it is not bad nor it is great. It is only fine. I will say that I do like the characters and their dynamics with each other but I do not know if I ever am going to remember them, the voice acting is good effort (Hugh Bonneville, I know him as Mr. Brown from the Paddington films, and Sean Bean, I know him as Bill Goodfellowe from Wolfwalkers, are the actors that I intrigued by), humour that did gave me a few chuckles and the animation, although generic and a bit dull, is decent effort.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Год назад

      My farts are better than Saberspark's farts.

    • @danielsvetlichny5721
      @danielsvetlichny5721 Год назад +1

      @@p-__ What's that supposed to mean?

    • @marionetteproject508
      @marionetteproject508 Год назад +7

      @@danielsvetlichny5721 he's spamming it everywhere

    • @danielsvetlichny5721
      @danielsvetlichny5721 Год назад

      @@marionetteproject508 I see.

    • @JargonMadjin
      @JargonMadjin Год назад +5

      The skeleton make up thing was either a lack of research or they were just copying Coco, either way, it's not a good look. Mummies aren't supposed to look like skeletons, the whole point of mummification was to preserve the body

  • @aiiiia9971
    @aiiiia9971 Год назад +4

    I would have loved a movie about ancient egyptian lore and with such a lovely aesthetic. They could have done so much with this it is really a shame

  • @lewisgale62
    @lewisgale62 Год назад +3

    As a British person. I can confirm that we do get constant visits from Egyptian mummies.

  • @Arcodus
    @Arcodus Год назад +11

    Why is it so important what skin colour a voice actor has? Seriously, why are people this shallow?? Kratos is voiced by Christoffer Judge, Greek character by black VA. Samurai Jack is voiced by Phil LaMarr, Japanese character by black VA. Darth Vader is mostly voiced by James Earl Jones, alien-that-looks-like-a-earopean-male character by black VA. Nobody batted an eye at that!
    Also, if you actually want authenticity, The Mummies/Egyptians should be talking ancient egyptic, or start out that way, as contemporary English was not a thing back then. If you TRULY wanted authenticity that is.
    Also having treasures and the bodies of ancient kings whisked off by the British ment that these couldn't be ruined by natural disasters or grave robbers intending to get a quick buck at the expence of preserving the artefacts/remains. Furthermore local goverments does not automaticly ensure conservation see the Afgani taliban and the priceless Buddha statues they destroyed. Not that any european explorer could fit those in their pocket!

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +1

      The point is they don’t even sound like they’re from the continent, their british accent took all possible immersion and plausibility out if it. It basically looks like British Egyptians fighting British people lmao

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo Год назад +3

      @@YourKingJDG Meanwhile America "every foreigner gets a British accent regardless of if they are Danish, Greek, Swiss etc."

    • @angela_merkeI
      @angela_merkeI Год назад +1

      ​@@YourKingJDG An Arabic accent would be as nonsensical as an English one. To have a somewhat accurate accent they would have had to round up the like 5 people that still natively speak Coptic, ship them to Bri'ain/Spain and give them English and voice acting classes.

    • @jtowensbyiii6018
      @jtowensbyiii6018 22 дня назад

      When you use race as the largest advertising portion of your film, you put that issue on yourself

  • @Randomrainfrog
    @Randomrainfrog Год назад +4

    In Egypt, lighter skin was a symbol of royalty, they could afford to stay out of the sun more (cuz farmers had to work and slave away in the sun) and everything. Hope that kinda answers your question

  • @djpegao
    @djpegao Год назад +4

    Was a cliché movie? Yes
    Was it predictable? Yes
    Was it very run of the mill? yes
    But damn it if it wasn't entertaining and fun, it's been a godsend among the bajillion remakes/Superhero Duds, and I'm glad both Horror and Animation are having a renaissance lately

  • @Alejandroigarabide
    @Alejandroigarabide Год назад +12

    Sean Bean broke his own record with this film. This time his character died EVEN BEFORE the events of the movie 😂

  • @Burentsu
    @Burentsu Год назад +18

    This movie bypassed me so hard I didn't realize it was in theaters until after it finished it's run and I was like, "There was an animated movie called Mummies in theaters?"

  • @xRAINxOFxBLOODx
    @xRAINxOFxBLOODx Год назад +1

    OK so, what if...
    These mummies in the afterlife still have their bodies on earth. And the Pharoah is like "no they're desecrating our graves we must stop them!" But they're unable to stop the archeologists, and they examine the bodies, and some kind of crime the pharaoh committed is revealed, and that was the real reason he was trying to stop them.
    Thut wasn't interested in Nefer, but becoming an artist lets her true personality shine, and then Thut begins falling in love with her.
    At the end they partner with a more ethical museum and can share first-hand knowledge of ancient egyptian life.
    I mean... it would've been something.

  • @dcornect53
    @dcornect53 Год назад +4

    To be fair, Walk Like An Egyptian is a kickass song, I love the Bangles.

  • @AkuTenshiiZero
    @AkuTenshiiZero Год назад +6

    "Why are they white?"
    Because genetically, Egyptians are close to Greeks and Italians. I mean go figure, people near the Mediterranean all kinda look the same, who'd have thought? It's tiresome how many people assume that because Egypt is in Africa, that Egyptians are as black as sub-Saharans. Look at modern Egyptians, they look about the same color as these characters.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +1

      You what’s also tiring? Assuming all black people or “sub saharans” are dark skinned.
      Black people come in all shades so stop it with that nonsense.

    • @AkuTenshiiZero
      @AkuTenshiiZero Год назад +3

      ​@@YourKingJDG OK. Africa is a big continent, no shit. Doesn't change the fact that Egyptians are not, and never were black.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад

      @@AkuTenshiiZero Egyptians always were black, COPE HARDER..

    • @AkuTenshiiZero
      @AkuTenshiiZero Год назад +4

      ​@@YourKingJDG Ah, you must be an American black. Stealing history from other cultures does seem to be the trendy thing for your kind these days.

  • @DeadBaron
    @DeadBaron Год назад +26

    3:50 because Ancient Egyptians were Mediterranean and pale. Just because they live on the same continent as Africans doesn't mean they have to be dark skinned. This is like saying if you live in Asia, you have to look Chinese and not Indian or Russian.

    • @mariscostumes3815
      @mariscostumes3815 Год назад +3

      You have clearly not seen an Egyptian person or seen ANY Egyptian hieroglyphs

    • @DeadBaron
      @DeadBaron Год назад +10

      @@mariscostumes3815 I've seen plenty of paintings. Hyroglyphs are just shapes and symbols like kanji.
      We even have Greek paintings and mosaics that prove what they looked like.
      As for "you haven't seen an Egyptian", this is laughable, as neither have you. The people that live in the region called Egypt today have very, very little to do with the Egyptians that built the tombs and pyramids.

    • @YourKingJDG
      @YourKingJDG Год назад +3

      @@DeadBaronEgyptian paintings clearly show them as being dark and light skinned Africans. Why would I look upon another white society to correctly show Egypt?

    • @dolanvskaney
      @dolanvskaney Год назад

      I can't wait till I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff.

    • @DeadBaron
      @DeadBaron Год назад +7

      @@YourKingJDG You think Greeks were white, ignorance revealed, opinion invalidated

  • @PJBerriJam
    @PJBerriJam Год назад +1

    I was on vacation in Europe and saw promos for this in a lot of places. Glad to know what it was about now

  • @roseblite6449
    @roseblite6449 Год назад +2

    That's what I simply LOVE about your videos, you find so many shows that I normally wouldn't hear about.
    Many shows don't get enough coverage like 'Dragon Hunters' (cartoon and movie), 'Monster Family' (1 & 2), 'Zombillenium'. Without your channel, I wouldn't know about this movie.
    OH, you really should watch 'Tad the Lost Explorer' movies, those 2 movies are great.

  • @DaWoWzer
    @DaWoWzer Год назад +36

    I think americans are the only ones who care about the skin color of voice actors, i've never seen anyone else care.

    • @roxassora2706
      @roxassora2706 Год назад +7

      It's a mostly mixed opinion

    • @ansel569
      @ansel569 Год назад +2

      I think saber's point was moreso that the "british colonialism is bad" theme is sort of undermined by casting white british people as egyptians. It's not like a sin or anything, but perhaps makes the message shallow.

  • @swordhunter12
    @swordhunter12 Год назад +19

    "Also the British Museum is the bad guy, in the movie."
    Speaking as a Brit, you did not need that qualifier at the end.

    • @Tubuxis
      @Tubuxis Год назад

      Stop being afraid of your heritage you coward

  • @Sketch105
    @Sketch105 Год назад

    Funny enough an ad for this showed up on my Firestick today and until today…I had never heard of it. Thanks for saving me a watch!

  • @Galaxia53
    @Galaxia53 Год назад +13

    As long as the voice actors do a good job it doesn't matter who they are. Why care about where they're from

    • @KashaLupul
      @KashaLupul Год назад

      He cares cause saber is a fat white[possibly jewish] man from the west.

  • @Kroraptor
    @Kroraptor Год назад +10

    I dont get it how you get Egyptian voice actors, does the voice actor job is to make a voice for any character?
    Like their job is to change their voice to match the character.
    Like should I get a mexican drug cartel dude to voice a cartoon of a mexican drug cartel character?
    Just get good writers and good voice actors.

    • @huntforbigfloptober1333
      @huntforbigfloptober1333 Год назад +5

      Yeah I really felt Saber harped waaay too long about the race of the actors rather than talking about their luckluster performance.
      Like I get wanting to give everyone opportunities to shine, but I feel like skill matters more for both the actors and writers.

    • @moon7shinev150
      @moon7shinev150 22 дня назад +2

      Seriously like look at the Prince of Egypt. Ramses probably has some of the best voice acting I’ve ever heard

  • @dogwithgun6724
    @dogwithgun6724 Год назад +21

    This movie for some reason gives me the same vibes as Monster in Paris. I haven’t seen this movie but the animation, the character. design, and the relatively “on the down low” release just feel very similar. Plus Thut or whatever and Raoul look VERY similar

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Год назад +2

      Thanks for reminding me of that movie. I promised myself for years to see it.

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero Год назад

      can you blame them for not having the billions of dollars of american production studios?

    • @dogwithgun6724
      @dogwithgun6724 Год назад +5

      @@Game_Hero I wasn’t trying to insult either movie at all just to be clear. Monster in Paris is actually one of my favorite movies

    • @Game_Hero
      @Game_Hero Год назад

      @@dogwithgun6724 I wasn't saying you where.

  • @TheDavestohler
    @TheDavestohler Год назад +2

    A couple of months ago, Warner Brothers gave this movie a somewhat limited release here in Canada. It appeared in a multiplex in my neighborhood... and was gone after the end of its second week. Though it looks like WB didn't even TRY to market the movie in Canada.

  • @matthewrooke819
    @matthewrooke819 9 месяцев назад +1

    Looks like one of those animated movies your grandparents keep for when you come to visit.

  • @wakeangel2001
    @wakeangel2001 Год назад +10

    I kind of feel like I'm getting some "Mummies Alive" energy from this. If you wanna fall down that rabbit hole it was an action cartoon made by DiC pretty much right after Gargoyles ended (trying to cash in on the supernatural entity superhero team void it left behind.) I don't think ANYONE references it these days, the only time I ever remember anyone mentioning it was the robot chicken sketch "Golf Jam" where Tiger Woods had to save the DiC cartoons by playing a golf game and he had sex with the mummy girl in one of the sand traps.

    • @azusitajr5501
      @azusitajr5501 Год назад +1

      Man Mummies Alive! was my shit I'm glad someone else remembers it