GT3 Smartest Play To Win At Laguna in Forza Motorsport
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- As a Noob to sim racing, I thought I'd share my Forza Touring Car experiences, my wins, my loses and my wtf moments. I try to explain my thought process and hopefully provide you with a learning guide or useful tips.
My strategy is simple, stay alive at all cost. We all know Forza Motorsport can be a little chaotic at times. I hope with a more passive tactic, I can swoop in and take the position. While also improving my own skills as a sim racing driver.
Track learning is key, hopefully by reviewing my race choices and my mistakes, I can help others learn and improve upon their lap times. Thus making the racing world more fun and competitive.
I am using a G920 Logitech wheel, and playing Forza Motorsport on PC using Xbox Game pass.
I do hope you all enjoy the content, Racing and Sim racing is great fun and helps you escape the harsh reality of the life.
Jump into the comments section, I always answer, look for further advice, constructive criticism and most of all fun.
Share your experience, shout out to me that you raced with me, that I beat you, or more importantly you BEAT ME.
Thankyou all for looking and watching. Be safe, Race safe and again most of all have fun.
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This better work! 😂😂 Good race dude!
I mean I tried it twice lol, Just make sure your not to far down the pack before attempting this :D.
Good Luck and all the best bud
Well done!
Thanks bud, Was an ever so lucky move, I didnt think i would make it lol
Hope your keeping well
I am usually that "unlucky" Ferrari.
hahaaha, its so painful and frustrating when your start of the race is that harsh on you.
Length of pit lane at Laguna is crazy now and time taken to pit is horrendous
I know bud. Which is why this Strat has worked out perfectly. Came as a surprise really lol. Got to love it man
love the channel forza 8 has great bones for a great racing game. but your strat concerned im right after you asked to comment so since its a cornering track i wouldnt reccomend it because bad tires costs you in the corner. not pitting is something you could get away with on a track like monza. Okay after watching it thank god laguna doesnt punish to hard with going off like grass or gravel.
Thanks buddy. Yeah you are right. It’s not the smartest move on the planet but it does have a very shocking outcome. Far better than I anticipated.
Thanks again bud :)
I noticed on some tracks like Kyalami that the cars will steer now directly on the track after pit lane which is really stupid and also dangerous imo. Who decided to do this? Why not just leave the pit lane without any steering?🤣
you should check out watkins glen and laguna seca, it throws you out of the pit right across the track and if your not fast enough you may end up back of track lol. It is a bug and turn 10 are aware of it. their fix is to leave the pit, do not throttle and steer towards the track lol
@@Flashms Damn game really still has huge faults😄
yeah it does, but its not the first time i have seen a car thrown out of the pit and took the car i was trying to over take out. So it can be convenient at times lmfao
@@Flashms Haha yes you have to see the positive side. Hopefully the devs will find a more serious approach one day and not make one thing better and one worse. They still haven't fixed the matte decals for example which came with a feature update🤦♂️Some things feel so childish in this game while it could be a nice Sim for non esports guys
ahahah yeah you do have to see the positives lol,.
I am sure they will eventually get themselves into gear and get it right, but i think time is truly against them now because players are still dropping off.
Not just that I mean replays still only save for 20 minutes. Not fixed. can only have 10 replays which suck, along with a mountain of others terrible issues. I really think what it needs is a fresh person from the outside working there and telling everyone how to fix it, rather than just closing the door and working in a dark room.
it should work
just be mindful of your own position if you are attempting it, if p1 is a good way ahead, you may not be able to pull it off
What I find funny is that Forza added the Porsche 935 to GT3 although being rather GT2 and put the KTM away from GT spec although it is a GT2🤣
Yeah it is odd. Maybe the Porsche has a little nerf? Not to sure.
The KTM is also an odd one. I thought it was ktm gt4. I could be wrong. Or there maybe 2. I think before they messed around with it they should have added more cars and made it better. Hahahaha may come in soon. Let’s say they add like 3/5 new gt3 and gt2 cars. One can only hope bud.
@@Flashms Probably they not sure where to put the Porsche since it is not driven irl, but ACC put it in GT2. Yes they have two KTM, one is GT2 and one GT4 lol. I am exited for the GT4 spec series coming next month.
Oooo that would be great gt4 race. I like the gt4 in acc but I was usually the only one in a gt4 car lmfao. I did beat a fair few gt3 drivers which annoyed them lmfao.
@@Flashms They have promised so lets see if we get also new GT4 cars😉
Fingers crossed bud. I reckon the Audi TT Will be in the gt4 car list.
If I colide with someone like you did at 0:31 sec 99.9% of the times I get either 2.25 or 4 secs. Always always always. Also happens when ppl rejoin and hit me
Yeah I mean they did turn in on me quite sharp and I think that may be the reason, while I was also on the brake, that let me get away with it lol. Then I got rear ended for good measure further taking that Aston out lmfao. I did try to avoid it but had no where to go. lol. It was just a cluster of mess right there.
Hope you’re keeping well buddy.
@@Flashmsyeah the “trick” is to apply the brake, sometimes you do get away with it. Doing fine hope you too and keep the great videos coming :)
@@aftrax79 yea there are tricks to it although when I try them out (off track for example) i still get stung so I give up with all that lol
Glad to hear your doing well. Video just came out this evening man. :) working hard lol.
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lol thanks bud
This is just ridiculous. They had 7-lap races that could be completed without a pit stop on hard. Now they have 11-lap races and even 13-lap races without pit stops. Absolutely any race in the game looks the same from a tactical point of view. We've been driving the same race over and over for several months now. Wherever I go, I know the result in advance. Often, players no longer use hard specifically to just drive the race in a more interesting and fun version. The funniest thing is that they added different degrees of tire degradation to the game. For example, now we play on 6x0. But this indicator applies to all types of tires, which does not change any layouts in the race. They can't even figure out how to make different degradation for different types of tires. For example, 5x0 for soft, 6x0 for medium, 7x0 for hard. And change it from race to race. Oh my God, when will tactics appear in games!? It just doesn't exist yet.
Ahahahah yeah i mean it was an accident that I found this one out. I thought the race was a long one so put hard tires on and then i realised how much tires I had left towards the latter end of the race and thought. I wonder if I can no stop this and well as you can see it worked lol.
While I do not think it will work on any track. Laguna new pit exit is what really sealed the deal. It takes a long time to pit now so that is a huge time advantage.
Yeah you are right. I used to try out different tires in older videos but as you say you already know how the race is going to turn out. I would love for them to bring in forced pit stops. Forced tires so soft and hard or medium and soft. Etc etc. I think forcing pit stops will also help. While they should also implement max fuel per race to. So your choice is either fuel save or pit for more juice lol. Things like that would be sick. Really change things up for just full sending it for 10 laps lol.
@@Flashms I can only say one thing. The optimal tactic in the game is always only one - full fuel + hard. This is in short races and medium races. In long races - 1 pit stop - hard and hard again. Anyone who uses 2 pit stops will lose. That is, absolutely all races have been the same for a very, very long time. Previously, the game at least had races where there were changing rain conditions. Now even that is gone.
Short races, you used to get away with 1 set of mediums I am sure. I rarely do the short races, always seems far to rammy lol. Medium races are 2 sets of medium or hard to soft, but hard to soft you usually lose. Again it depends on track length. I did hard at the ring and couldnt even make 2 laps before the tires fell of a cliff and lost way to much time. Tracks that have short pit stops its kinda safe to pit more than once. But again depends on the lobby you are in to. Some are insane while some are chaotic lol. Weather changing should come in and far better than that variable weather crap they have at the moment. But we shall see what the next update brings. At the moment its all trial and error. we just need to ride the waves lol. The problem is to many people are shouting at what they are doing wrong and not what they have got right. Next month will be different again, different tire strat, tracks, weather, day or night and balancing of cars. Again some cars are far more dominant on certain tracks than others.
@@Flashms I just can't understand one thing. How can you not realize the potential of the game in such simple things. I'm talking about the developers. Well, it's just obvious that you need to change literally a little and the races will become an order of magnitude more interesting. These are obvious things for any person who watches real races. But sometimes it seems that they don't have such people in the company.
There are basic things that should be implemented literally at the moment. Of course, people will pay attention to the shortcomings of the game if they are so obvious. But again. I'm not the one who hates the game. On the contrary, I'm the one who plays it all the time and I really like it. But there are things that are just annoying.
If we talk about problems in the game, there are a lot of them. The menu alone is a big problem. And in the latest patch, they only made it worse with their innovations. But I don't pay much attention to such things. But the racing component needs to be brought to mind.
I think it is pretty much what you said, they are inside the box and cannot see it from the outside looking in. While also doing their best to massage the shareholders so their pockets get fatter to while keeping costs as low as possible. I was taking to a few people the other day, it took 2 months to develop radar. 2 months, I modder can create one within a week. The modding community is nuts in their level of skill and i cannot see why turn 10 cannot reach out to these people and get the help its needs. Along with bug fixes, optimisation and everything else. But what do i know LMAO.
I totally agree with you, and you seen plenty of my videos to know I am not one to talk bad about the game, I of course provide constructive feedback and on occasions do get frustrated at content that was promised and missed for the millionth time (replays was one for me) Again the modding community would have and could have that sorted in a reasonable time. But turn 10 seem to sticking with the same 3 people while 2 are always in the bathroom lmfao.
Yeah i mean we could be here all day talking about issues, but really what game these days do not have them. There is a huge difference between a game breaking bug such as all the crashing or being stuck in a never ending loop of loading and saving, to maybe a tree is poorly placed lol.
I dont just blame turn 10, I blame microsoft for not sorting this issue out to. Its not like they dont know, but yet fail to do anything about it. They have the money and power to give turn 10 more staff to fix bugs and really get this game up to a much higher standard, but they don't. Its a failure across the board and not just one element of it. The big thing right now that gets me is the word NEW on each update. We all know its old stuff drip fed. I wouldnt mind if they went out and re scanned all the cars, tracks and sounds etc. Then I would say its new, but its old stock recycled, thats like having a cooking dinner, freezing it for 3 months and then serving it at a 5 star restaurant and saying its freshly cooked. Yeah in a microwave lmfao
The crazy thing is that your race time is not very high. I drove the race on Aston Martin on soft (4 laps) + medium (7 laps) in 1:31.784. The same time as you did on hard. But my opponent also had a 20-second advantage on the last lap. And only when he started to control the pace did he lose his advantage. He did 1:27.573. I think he could have won at least another 10-12 seconds.
There is a video where this track is driven in 16:09.343.
And here is the question. Why do people use soft and medium at all? And most importantly - what will the game look like if in all races absolutely all players use the dominant optimal tactics? There will be no more pit stops in the game at all.
I get you bud. I mean I am weird because I perform better on weaker tires than I do on grippy tires lol. Not sure why lol.
Again this is more track dependant rather than the tires lasting. If it was let’s say maple valley. I would have never been able to pull the no stop off. I would fail in style right there due to the pit being far shorter and the track being far more aggressive on tire wear.
Which is where you may actually have to end up doing 1 mid and 1 hard or 2 mids but sacrifice the last lap bud
@@Flashms On Maple Valley, Road America and Grand Oak you will have the same result. :)
I ruin tires at maple lmao, but again thats driving style and tune. Road America, eh I get that, its at the short end of a long pit though. Grandoak isnt to bad on tires really. its more speed in the straight then medium speed corners that dont eat the tires to much. Again maple for me destroys my rubber but i do push hard and i am more than happy to apply some slip for better rotation lmfao
I don't use rivals setup, so using the stock setup, my hard tires will not last the whole race. Thats probably the reason why many do a pitstop. I couldnt finish without, at least not on all tracks
@@M-hq9xz yeah it is track dependant. Need a nice long pit and a track that doesn’t ruin tires lol