@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 try that for your own baby and don't worry it's okay beacuse human population has not got down since the beginning of human race
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 lol.. love it that this person is saying that the eider ducks are okay with them stealing their homes. Wonder what a "I am okay with you stealing my home for your selfish needs" quack sounds like..!! They made that home using their own feathers so that their kids can stay warm, but nah the ducks will be "okay" if we replace that rare material with hay which is obviously not as insulating like eiderdown feathers
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 how does me touching eider down matter here? Stealing an innocent duck's home is downright unethical and selfish, that's it.. there is absolutely no connection to me having touched eider down in my life..!!
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@@helene4397 True, but they can't tell just from looking at it. I never saw her pick the egg up and take a flashlight or some light source to the egg so they could look if there was a bird embryo in there.
But she said they colect only part of the nest or everything if it is empty... Pretty sure it would be quite obvious if their methods was being too harmful.
odds are they were just recreating the scene for this clip, using down she already harvested and prop eggs. Having a crew follow her around until she finds a natural nest could take hours or even days, why do that when you can just use materials already on hand to demonstrate the concept
That's like saying you are gathering while you are harvesting your crops. Ofcourse it's both farming. Both farmers have dedicated land for their respective industry.
This isn't something that's just been started, this has been going on for centuries. The eider ducks prefer this as in return the farmers help keep foxes away.
@@bennydarko did you not watch the video? Those ducks are severely protected and harvesting the eggs would be illegal. Don’t be a dumbass and make assumptions
I doubt these corporations would publicly speak about what they're doing if they violated these ducks, the biodiversity and if they conducted a form of animal abuse. All the ducklings probably leave together with its family, and the eiderdown left ends up redundant which leaves to these corporations being able to ethically use it.
I hate to see that. The nest still contain eggs and she took it 90% from the nest. She come by car and look very stylish also using so many ring. But she can't bear to see the eggs provided enough by their mother so that they could hatch properly. She is a thief What a shame things human woman did to another animal that willing to share her feather for the comfort of her eggs. I wonder if other creature would do the same to that woman children.
@@luciana-hs8cg But she's taking the feathers from the nest in the spring. The feathers are used for insulation in the winter. The eggs will hatch as the weather gets warmer. To the birds, these feathers are otherwise wasted after winter.
@@saureco I live in tropical country. Even here we give the extra warm for the eggs so that it can hatch properly. Sometimes it means lamp to keep the eggs warm enough. And don't you see the picture shown to us before? How the little bird safely play and covered by their mother with their full nest that hug them, the proper way the bird provide their best for their next generation? Those feather act as their blanket and home and pillow if you will. How can you said that your baby not need those things until they totally not need that? The next time all those eggs left, if miracle happen than it can hatch, then they should life in rough environment, stone under their body, cold because their feather is not properly develop yet and not anything protect them from wind and they become hungrier because their metabolism should survive the weather.
If that's what she does when the camera is filming, I'd imagine her slam dunking the eggs into a frying pan and taking 100% of the nest when she's alone.
Or, and follow me here, the film crew deliberately mainly used the clips where she took from nests with eggs to create the exact reaction in the comment section you see here for increased level of engagement, which youtube loves so much.
@@arturravenbite1693 There are actually experts in the comments speaking about how the way she is doing it is wrong. Obviously we can’t know they’re telling the truth but we can all use our eyes and common sense to see she’s basically taking the entire nest.
She didn’t say she harvest only abandoned nest tho. She did say she only takes some of the active nests. Which she obviously takes way more than she originally let on.
"sustainably sourced" as she proceeds to place the unhatched eggs to the side, harvests their warm nest and returns the eggs to a single remaining feather
She didn't take the entire nest. U probably have to watch it again. If you notice, she sit aside the eggs, grab the whole nest and pluck few of it. Laid back to the ground and returned the eggs.
@Thornback I am not saying I know anything about Eider, but I have watched videos of plenty of birds that actually do continue to nest in horrible conditions. So I don't know that you point about then leaving if not treated well is accurate.
“we only take a small amount” proceeds to take 99.99% of the nest while the eggs are still there and leave a patch just to say they didnt take 100%. shameful to be honest
Um she practically took more than 80% of the nest I- if that’s how much she collects when filmed how much does she really actually collect when not filmed...:(
Not to mention that she says that the nest goes to waste when the ducks leave. I'm fairly certain that the down would get picked over by several species of birds and other animals for building their homes and to use as nesting material. Very little goes to waste in nature--it doesn't matter whether you're on top of a mountain, at sea level, or several kilometers under the ocean.
I agree with you, and she is crooked, and I'm going to say 95%, she didn't wait for them to leave the nest like she said. When the babies die because they have no nest to hatch and be warm because she took it all I hope she will be happy. Greedy people are never satisfied.
@@crazy808ish Ummm yes, since she lied and said she waited for the birds to leave the nest, and clearly they didn't. I don't put anything past liars or greedy people who sell comforters for 8,000 a piece. It's called supply and demand which is why people kill Rhinos for their horns, club baby seals, take sharks fins and drop them back in the ocean to die, etc. Also, she is on camera for the show only not always.
@@sinaimuse6562 0:50 "either by taking small amounts from each nest, or waiting for the birds to disappear completely" Now you can argue that that wasn't a small amount, but don't act like they didn't mention both ways. "Also, she is on camera for the show only not always." EXACTLY. If she was on camera and doing something wrong, she would take only a tiny bit just for show, and then off camera take the rest. She wouldn't take all that on video if it wasn't alright! She can afford to pretend on one nest if she wanted to.
Hmmm maybe if people like the woman in the video stopped taking 90% of the nest leaving the eggs and ducks with little options for keeping it warm they wouldn't have such issues.
@@thegreatfellow you don't justify wrongdoing with something worse. It's like saying "At least they didn't kill or eat them like cannibals." to abusers. Something worse doesn't justify something else that is also wrong.
@@lavendertears1814 "something worse" is what you're calling poultry farms. It is regarded as normal all around the world and that's how you get chicken on your plate. When that is not considered wrong by people couldn't they do the same thing in the case of Eiders as well. P.S: please check the meaning of cannibal.
It really worth paying attention and listen and not jump to conclusions, especially if you have no knowledge of the subject whatsoever. She left some amount, which, i assume, in a course of centuries of practice was determined to be sufficient for eggs to survive. Birds parents will rebuild the nest - they constantly do this in a wild. Practice obviously benefits the birds, as population statistics proves, so the only danger to poor birds will be self-righteous ignorant RUclips commenters, like yourself.
Ivan Huynh but what if I want to feel cold in the scorching summer just so I can be warm and cozy? I turn my industrial grade AC to 40F and snug myself under eider down blanket. 👌
Wtf, she took the whole nest!! And that was when the cameras were on her. I just can guess how much are left when she is not being filmed... In northern Norway we have been harvesting Eiderdown for centuries. But they makes small sheds for the ducks to make their nests in, and wait for the family to leave their nests before taking the down. Often the ducks come back year after year, and gets so familiar to the «farmer» that they don’t care when they check on the nests. The ducks benefits enormously on this, because the farmer protects them from predators, especially cats, mink, foxes and seagulls, and provide them with shelter. But unfortunatly the practise have been dying out, literally, as the old generation who have been doing this for decades are getting old, and very few young people care to take over. And the Eider population are declining, and they are suspecting that the loss of Eiderdown farmers are part of the decline.
Man ok so now everybody is an expert on eiderdown ducks? The eggs are fine. The mother comes back and accepts her eggs. This does not harm them. The nest is also fine. When the mother comes back she replenishes the nest to a point like she would after a storm or something, and the nest is not plucked again. There are only select areas the eiderdown can be picked here and there is a reason iceland produces 80%, its because we have an extremely high population of these ducks. Calm down, jesus, its not like most of you would be this vigilant for your t-bone steak or chicken wings. These practises work, the ducks come back every year, none of them die and their population is not in decline in Iceland.
@@lapatron555 this is what I thought would be the case but I'm not sure if you've heard of this new fad called outrage culture, it's all the rage, all the kids are super into it. Basically you get outraged at online content so you can virtue signal how good of a person you are by caring about an issue that's not really an issue until it becomes an issue. Welcome to 2021!
With todays technology, they could easily mark each nest they find then come to remove the nests near the end of the season, you will loose couple of nests, but you ensure less stress on the birds that no longer need to rebuild 90% of their nest and a lower loss of eggs meaning more ducks, meaning more down in the future.
not if you are worried someone else is going to come and take it. Apparently its big money. Its just like animal racing, whom ever is willing to do what others aren't is going to be most successful.
down covered in bird crap would be my guess the abandoned nest is lower quality. This is why the woman was stealing like 80% of that nest. The eggs look barely warm.
me: “oh ok she’s taking a small amount and then she’s gonna put the nest back down that’s go-“ her: *takes the ENTIRE NEST AND LEAVES LESS THAN A HANDFUL*
They said if the birds are there they take a little but if the mother leaves then that is when they take more. The mothers remake their nests relatively quickly and otherwise the wind destroys them anyways.
The eggs need insulation down to the ground. She left the bottom of the nest (you can't really see the bottom of the nest since it was filmed from the side and this angle was obscured by the grass.) the upper part of the nest, around and between the eggs are uncompressed feathers and will blow away during nesting season. In Norway it's traditional to build tiny wooden or stone "houses" on unpopulated islets for the Eiderduck, so the feathers don't blow away and can be harvested after the birds has left. But only in parts of Norway where this practice has continued for hundreds (or thousands) of years are the Eiderduck keen on building their nests "inside". And a farmer may several hundred Eiderduck "homes" over several dozen islets to build/maintain, with a portion of the "homes" being inhabited in a given year.
It's because it's so warm... People are too damn greedy though. If people can afford this for a duvet, surely those people can afford a warm house with locally sources alternatives (as they probably export this).
@@evalonia Even if they take 100% of the nest, there's a billion artificial, cheap, animal safe insulators they could use. This isn't just about money, this is being a prick
If they didn't leave enough, they wouldn't have any thing to harvest next year. I trust that people who have been doing this their whole lives know what they're doing.
@@herzogsbuick Exactly, i could not find the correct words. If they wouldn´t preserve it, they wouldn´t have nothing to look for. Thanks for your comment.
How is it ethical? Why is it unethical? This practice has been refined over centuries in a way that maintains the population of birds. The reason it is expensive is not ethicality but scarcity due to the regulations of the Icelandic government to maintain ethicality and prevent practices like battery farming.
Once the nest is removed, the bird has to rebuild it. Having to rebuild an entire nest imposes a lot of stress on the birds, so it’s harmful to them. They should wait for the eggs to hatch before taking away their nests.
exactly. and people are like "the ducks are protected, they're not close to extinction or anything." why do we need something to be on the brink of never existing again to care? so annoying
Plus birds don't grow feathers fast enough to keep fixing their nests. Take most of the nest will leave the birds with having to try taking down feathers where they already depleted on their bodies. The amount of nest she takes is overkill and leaves the eggs exposed and cold and has a higher likely hood of killing developing birds in the eggs if she does this to a nest that isn't new.
@@edmer68 Ikr, I am so glad these experts have come out to condemn these professional practitioners, maybe I should become a warrior of the keyboard, then I'd be able to master any profession in under 10 minutes!
Imagine hating this video when there are humans burning the forests, polluting the oceans in which homes to billions of animals, uhm right just forget about those
I thought they said they wait until the birds are gone before collecting ? And here she goes disrupting the nest and taking everything which is clearly still inhabited
She literally took 95% of the nest while the eggs were still in the nest. Imagine how much she would of taken if she wasn't being filmed. I will never buy this product.
you're making assumptions based on information you dont know, if this was a problem there would be a decline in their population or at least they would move away but neither of those things are happening, ducks arent humans, they dont care about comfort as much as they care about the effectiveness, as long as they reproduce fine and live healthy lives there really isnt a problem with it, and if you see this so abhorrently go look at the fur farmers in northern Europe, that is 100x worse than this situation.
@@brockcockren8643 Biologically the feathers serve a purpose to those eggs and mother nature didn't design these animals with the intent of having the feathers removed. Give your a head a shake. Why would the woman even say that they only take "SOME" of the feathers? It's because she understands that the feathers serve a purpose! It's too bad she took 95% of them for money though.
Never heard of it before but just discovered the word eiderdown was "translated" to edredom in Portuguese a word we use to refer to warmer blankets but they don't have any eiderdown on it lol
Yes it is… You’re just being emotional. The ducks literally just build new nests. It is ten times more ethical than any slaughterhouse operating in the USA or UK…..
@@boass lol wasn't anticipating to being called emotional (especially when this is 7 months old and has as little as 38 likes). . Either way, it was more of the juxtaposition of what she was saying compared to what she was doing on on camera. But imagine a wee little child with cotton candy had a random stranger say "don't worry, I'm ethically sourcing this" as they proceed to snatch 98% of the candy for themselves. To me it's little sad and funny, so it elicited more of a smirk and an eye roll from me more than anything.
I read about this practice in Jules Verne's "Journey to the centre of the Earth"... and that was written in the late half of the 1800's, it's amazing to see how this practice continues to this day in the exact same modus operandi as described in the novel. For those wondering about her taking most of the nests feathers, if Jules Verne's research into the matter is correct: They DO take all or nearly all the feathers, then they wait for the female eiderduck to pluck more feathers and redo it, then they collect them again until the female doesn't have any more of the priced chest feathers and then the male eiderduck redoes the nest. However, male eiderduck feathers are stiff and have no value so the collectors leave, the nest is finally left alone and the ducklings hatch with no problems.
Ouch. She is actually removing the eggs from their nest. It's like stealing a baby's home! Just noticed 99% of commenters too thought this was OUTRAGEOUS!
Literally every icelander i see in these comment section is saying that the eggs are safe. The nest is for wintertime. She harvests them on spring (aka the season AFTER winter, in case yall cant connect the dots at this point)
It depends on the farmer, some wait for them to leave completely and take the entire nest, while other don’t wait and take around 80% of the nest leaving 20% for the eggs (which is enough). Thats what’s evident in the video.
@@raminajm2163 is it though? Because frankly I don't see any evidence that shows that the down that's left is enough to keep the chicks nest safe. Also how can we really believe what she says when she so obviously becomes hypocritical from how she says "we take a small amount" then proceeds to take 80% + of the nest material. Litterally no one would agree that above half is a small amount, and the majority of people would agree that a small amount is something below 30% of the total.
"We only take a little from the nest or wait until the nest is abandoned." Proceeds to go to a nest and take 90% of all the feathers there. I'm pretty sure that if the people don't take the down, native animals will still use it in their nests for warmth.
Yet this practice has been around for 1000 and they’re still here. You’re a genius. Go live in Iceland for a while and see it first hand before you judge. Been and seen this first hand and it’s a perfect relationship between man and animal. They both get looked after. Also the eggs can stay warm with the smallest amount of the down…the female duck also replaces what’s lost when it returns. The IQ level in this comment section is astounding.
@@Joshuagilchrist55 oh you mean the commercial eider down industry has been there for a hundred years with mechanical machinery to hasten the process of creating luxurious beddings for humans all over the world?
The feather harvesters have more incentive than anyone to keep these duck populations high. It is mentioned in the video how the duck is heavily protected by Icelandic law. Please think before you comment.
"Eiderdown farmers will harvest this down either by taking small amounts from each nest or by waiting for the birds to dissapear completely" Notice the words: either, or and bird. They will either take small amounts while the bird is there or larger amounts when they arent. If the birds are not there then they take larger amounts. Nothing here is contradictory nor is it unethical. If anything this is beneficial as farmers are now invested in the safety of the bird populations. The fact that oftentimes the wind will blow away the nest if the birds are not present and the birds return and remake it is no different to when it the nest is taken with the minimum left for the eggs to survive. Either way: no birds are being harmed, no eggs are being harmed and this practice in contrast to ones like whaling have not had any adverse effects on the population of these birds.
@@ThatOneBreadstickEater There are still eggs at 1:20, so its not abaddoned nest. If you take entire 90% of nest while there are still eggs, eggs will lose their heat and may die before preparing new nest
Yes I can totally see her taking the entire Nest once the eggs have hatched because it would blow away or be used by another animal after the mother has left, but those eggs were still lying in the nest unhatched..that's removing too much material it appears to me..
"take a little bit from each nest" SHE JUST took 95% of the damn nest! I have to wonder how many of those eggs end up freezing or how many of those ducklings end up dead because they destroy the nests each time...
You are right, taking warm nests is like collecting eggs. Like the Farallone Egg Company, which by 1851 was collecting half a million guillemot eggs a year for sale. The collectors sailed in the spring, broke already laid eggs, so they soon received fresh ones. For half a century, at least 14 million guillemot eggs have been removed from the islands! Scientists estimate that the total population of seabirds has declined by 70 percent over the past 60 years. In fact, these numbers are even worse, because many are threatened with extinction: of the 360 known species of seabirds, most are endangered or endangered, which is more in percentage terms than in any other group of birds.
@@rodrigochayamiti9198 well it seems that even with the way she is Handling the nest the population of these birds is not declining so what she's doing is clearly not hurting the eggs
"If we didn't take it it would just blow away." Immediatelly shows her violating a nest by moving eggs. Yeah you could have just not done the whole eco act.
Yes! “It would just blow away and be useless” 🤔 or maybe you could just not ?? And just let nature be. There’s not a shortage in materials to make duvets and pillows. 😑
@@cantfiteveryheart There is indeed no shortage in materials to make duvets and pillows. Then again, she can sell these for $8000 a piece, and by the time those birds are endangered or outright extinct, she'll be 6ft under in an expensive coffin.
"They should replace the feathers with something else or artificial wool" Then they'd be introducing invasive materials that could possibly harm the ducks or pollute the environment which would also harm the ducks.
@@giovannicazares3110 what so we can produce more polyester to kill more whales and make us choke then blame the people for not planting enough trees eventhough trees dont even made 30% of oxygen?
There's good alternatives for pillows and blankets that doesn't involve taking the nests like that. I get that people did it in the old days, but today it's just greed.
I've never had the privilege of trying eider down anything - and I don't think my broke ass would ever get the chance to spluge that irresponsibly - I do wish down alternatives didn't feel (to my neuro-atypical self, at least) so ... "off" ... compared to say goose down, or down + feather comforters, or I'd be more willing to give them a whirl. For now, I'll stick to actual goopse down (responsibly sourced if possible), but I hope tech can advance - maybe growing down like they're working to do with lab grown meat!
HE said taking SMALL amounts of Eiderdown 0:48 min SHE took more than 90% of that nest 1:48 min The bird comes home just to see her home was vandalized
"Eiderdown farmers will harvest this down either by taking small amounts from each nest or by waiting for the birds to dissapear completely" Notice the words: either, or and bird. They will either take small amounts while the bird is there or larger amounts when they arent. If the birds are not there then they take larger amounts. Nothing here is contradictory nor is it unethical. If anything this is beneficial as farmers are now invested in the safety of the bird populations. The fact that oftentimes the wind will blow away the nest if the birds are not present and the birds return and remake it is no different to when it the nest is taken with the minimum left for the eggs to survive. Either way: no birds are being harmed, no eggs are being harmed and this practice in contrast to ones like whaling have not had any adverse effects on the population of these birds unlike that of whales. This practice has been refined for centuries. That does not mean it is good nessesarily just that it is efficient and due to the scarcity of this material REQUIRES that farmers maintain the populations of these birds. If it had any adverse effects on the birds then there would be noticable effects on the amount of Eiderdown produced and because there are no signs of this, it is simply wrong to consider this unethical as all signs show that it is an ethical and sustainable practice.
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No it is just mentioned they wait for the mothers to leave as normally when the mothers leave the wind destroys the nest after a while and the birds simply remake it. If they dont take the eiderdown it is useless and is simply taken by the wind with no impacts to the birds. There is no difference in people taking it before the wind does.
its ethically harvested that means the eider ducks will leave the nests then if its not collected it would just blow always so its not rlly stealing they abandoned their nests
In Norway they at least build hatching houses for Eiderducks and pad them with dried seaweed. They respect the fact that Eiderducks on the red list and don't take the down before the nests have been leaved. How they harvest the down in Iceland is really sad to see and very questionable.
$8,000 for a damn blanket because it’s the one of the warmest materials on earth? I’m thinking if you can afford an $8,000 blankie….you can probably afford to turn up the heat some🤨🤷🏻♂️ Anyone that pays that much for a blanket has more money than brains.🤯
the point is not that its warm, the point is that its a luxury good. a bragging piece. if we applied your logic to say, food for example, why arent we all just eating crappy fast food? anyone who pays more for gourmet food has more money than brains 🤯
you have no idea. Who decides what is "ethical" anyway? i suspect one we are going to hear about in the future is antarctic krill. Its kind of the wild west down there. Its all labeled as "sustainable" and crap like that. But theres no way they know that, the fishery hasn't been going on long enough its all BS. Its just no one is really looking at it yet. But Krill are a very important part of the ecosystem and we have no idea what sort of long term damage we will be causing with that pretty unregulated fishery. Only reason I looked at it was because Im a sled dog racing activist, and there is a krill oil company that sponsors a few of the racers. One of whom has a questionable reputation. The alarms in my brain went off seeing a dude who chains dogs and beats them talking about "ethical and sustainable." I worked in dog sled racing so I know how shady THAT gets, and then I saw that and just kinda did my own homework. and yea, theres alot of shady stuff with the whole krill oil thing. All the studies are privately funded and stuff like that. Its a total joke.
She stated, "when the birds are all gone and the babybirds are ready to leave. The down is gonna blow away and be useless." A minute later we witnessed her taking a mother eiders down straight from under the innocent eggs. That's false statements right there.
Birds also abandon their nests, they closely monitory the island to protect the nests and if all the parents are gone then those eggs are as good as dead if they arent already.
"We take just a little from the nest" Continues to remove live baby eggs and takes the entire nest and continues on to the next nest to take 100% of all the live nests they find! I HIGHLLLLY doubt they are doing this ethnically like they say.... Don't care what they claim. Greed and profits turn even the most ethical of people into dirty, conniving, horrible people!
do you know theyre live eggs? she's likely taking from abandoned nests, she wouldnt be doing something harmful to the species bc that makes no sense business wise.
@@Voiidpriince uhhh yeah there is business reasoning to take from the nest... They don't give a shit if the bird needs the nest or not, they just want the material for their expensive coats and products they make with this stuff! Notice how almost 98% of the comments are saying the same exact thing about her taking wayyyy too much of the nest?!
@@powsniffer0110 they literally couldn’t have a business if they were harming the species, that would make zero sense. Also yeah everyone is hive minding on the same sentence, we don’t work there, we don’t actually have any insider knowledge on the situation or how everything works. Of course there will be criticism for things none of us are informed on.
@@Voiidpriince you act like companies have never done things that would seemingly hurt their business in the long-run for short term profits.... This is literally EXACTLY how tons of companies operate like oil companies and mining companies. Screw the long term, we'll worry about that later ... We just need to gain as much profits RIGHT NOW! You're living in ignorant bliss if you don't think companies do this ... Talking about hive thinking and talking shit about societal thinking... 🤔
And another kind of predator: humans collecting the protection of eggs. I couldn't ever buy such thing, even for lower price. Thanks to share so we are all aware of it.
@@aryanbaviskar4127 that has nothing to do with anything. You dont eat these ducks, you're killing then for no reason, as there are other ways more sustainable to keep warm.
And another kind of predators: humans collecting the eggs of a chicken infront of their parents. I couldn't every buy such a thing, even for lower price.
It is ethical, if they didnt take the nest the wind would destroy it. They left the bare minimum nessesary to keep the eggs alive and the birds tend to remake their nests quite easily.
@@ThatOneBreadstickEater bro she literally just said they'd wait for the ducks to be done breeding 1:55 And then next second do the exact opposite are you arguing a fact? Personally I wouldn't care if she cooked the eggs on video and ate them I just don't like a lier.
Two solutions; replace the nest with something else like cotton or whatever, OR add a weighted fake egg to a full nest so it stays when the checks are gone
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 they could have also shown that in this video, or talked about how they ensure that what they do is ethical. The only thing they show is a lady in expensive clothing take a nest in its entirety and not do anything else
Okay so taking the nest isn't unethical as the wind destroys the nest if they dont and they leave the minimum needed for the birds to survive. This practice is centuries old and if it would be bad for the birds we would see a decline in their population. Instead farmers protect the birds from predators and collect about as much as the wind takes without them which is roughly 95% of it
i think there is a reason why a bird would build her nest to that size and it should be just right size. So taking 90% of that nest and still convincing that its no problem, is not ok.
It sure is a good thing to have a super insulated $8000 blanket to keep warm in on those freezing winter nights. It’s not like they can afford to heat their homes, you know, with the price of fuel these days😂
I thought messing with nests made birds not want to come back to them? Do these ducks still take care of their eggs after this woman has handled them and stolen the nests out from under them? Why not just like, mark where the nests are and come back later when the ducks have hatched? Surely y'all would know how long it takes these ducks to hatch by now.
That’s a myth. Mother birds will continue to incubate their eggs and feed babies once a person has touched them. If you see a baby bird or egg and you can also see the nest it fell out of, ALWAYS put it back. Also, this is their livelihood, they’re not going to do anything that will result in less ducks surviving. Obviously, the nesting ducks can replace the down that’s taken. I agree, though, it would be better to closely monitor nests and take the whole thing as soon as it’s not needed anymore.
I love how she is walking around in a $3,000 trench coat, $200 sunglasses, $800 watch, $250 rain boots while stealing 99% of the eggs nest. Looks like she doesn't work a hard day in her life. She should come work with me for a day. At least what I do is ethical, but I imagine I make about 1/60th of what she makes a year
Yes how wonderful! After ethically taking away all the eiderdown feather nest and leaving 2 feathers there, the eggs may or may not hatch. Just great, soon enough they’ll all go extinct and it’ll be a mystery as to why it’s going extinct isn’t it.
@@novaangle2183 Kinda, I helped with the conservation of hookbill ducks when I was studying animal behaviour. My grandparents raise free-range chickens for over 30 years now.
I can't believe she is handling those eggs, does she realize that she basically lied about waiting until the nests are abandoned to collect? I wonder how many eggs are abandoned because her scent is all over them
I was wondering same cuz most avians discard their egg if found other animals scent over eggs as she carelessly touched their egg literally like poultry egg
@@Leo-bu8hv actually no, birds dont have a good sense of smell, they wont know if theres been humans nearby unless theyve seen them there. I think that lie was just something told to us to not disturb birds when we were younger.
@@WildVee your mom's virginity was a myth in middle school, I've seen babies left by robins because a human handled the chicks, and I've seen a house wren throw one of its own back out of the nest after I tried to rescue a fallen chick. You can believe whatever debunking RUclips conspiracy videos, accusing someone of spreading misinformation seems to be the death rattle of the woke culture. You must be one of those Netflix employees that has extra time today?
"We only take a little off the nest or wait for them to leave." As she takes like 95% of the nest while eggs are still on them. Haha.
I was wondering the same😂
Yeah that seems fucked up. Don’t touch those prebirds.
😂😂 it’s ridiculous
I was thinking the exact same thing!
I'm pretty sure they take the whole thing and the eggs off camera 😂😂😂
That's actually pretty satisfying to see it unfold
What if i take out the blanket from new born baby of yours and left handkerchiefs in place of that. Think about it. Time to boycott such products
I stand with you
More like cutting out the blanket and leaving with a stomach size blanket
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 try that for your own baby and don't worry it's okay beacuse human population has not got down since the beginning of human race
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 lol.. love it that this person is saying that the eider ducks are okay with them stealing their homes. Wonder what a "I am okay with you stealing my home for your selfish needs" quack sounds like..!!
They made that home using their own feathers so that their kids can stay warm, but nah the ducks will be "okay" if we replace that rare material with hay which is obviously not as insulating like eiderdown feathers
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 how does me touching eider down matter here? Stealing an innocent duck's home is downright unethical and selfish, that's it.. there is absolutely no connection to me having touched eider down in my life..!!
Lmao they literally take like 90% of this thing from every nest
Imagine coming home from the convenient store and saw your house 98% missing
🤣🤣Capitalism ain’t shit.
“Just takes a bit”
@@greyishduckie bebek geprek with sambal ijo tasted amazing, you're making me hungry >:[
@@bebekgeprek8376 gofood at your service🙏
@@KontenRandomOfficial. i don't have enough storage on my phone to download gojek :(
Rich people watch this series like an infomercial on what to shop for.
😂😂😂
This is why i watch those bank loan advertisements haha
deathempire70 Mac foster is the best binary options expert I have ever been in business with, I have made over $30,000 within 2 weeks under his management
lmao you caught me
zlerner716 it’s literally a corporation with a huge amount of outside influence telling people what to buy. 🤣People with the intellectual and monetary capital to access something like this probably don’t. This series just keeps poor people constantly buying belongings that are absolutely not necessary because now people without doing any research whatsoever would think that it’s necessary to buy a several thousand dollar comforter to achieve superiority 😭🤣 This is literally porn for the middle & upper class at this point. A literal commercial from this Icelandic company would probably have less loaded language than this “infomercial” This series is ass.
"We only harvest abandoned nests."
*Proceeds to evict unborn ducks*
What if those eggs didn't have anything inside?
They are already lowering their survival chances without returning any favor for some nasty ass feathers.
@@helene4397 True, but they can't tell just from looking at it. I never saw her pick the egg up and take a flashlight or some light source to the egg so they could look if there was a bird embryo in there.
But she said they colect only part of the nest or everything if it is empty... Pretty sure it would be quite obvious if their methods was being too harmful.
odds are they were just recreating the scene for this clip, using down she already harvested and prop eggs. Having a crew follow her around until she finds a natural nest could take hours or even days, why do that when you can just use materials already on hand to demonstrate the concept
Farmers? What they do is literally the opposite of farming. It's gathering.
Nouns and verbs don't always mean the same.
Real life looters making some profitable investments.
They're like bounty hunters 😂
That's like saying you are gathering while you are harvesting your crops. Ofcourse it's both farming. Both farmers have dedicated land for their respective industry.
Egg farmers gather eggs
"We only take a small amount"
*Proceeds to take the entire nest*
Lmao, ikr. She's like we wait for the ducks to leave, and I thought she meant when they hatched, not steal their house.
She did leave some
This isn't something that's just been started, this has been going on for centuries. The eider ducks prefer this as in return the farmers help keep foxes away.
könnuður are you like a duck whisperer? Dafuq
@Omry Goldwasser Are you arguing with centuries of co-habitation?
Lol I legit thought she was gonna get a little pinch. Lol she legit left a pinch under the eggs. 😂
Yeah and that was probably just because there was a camera
@@SkyeAten truuu
She probably has scrambled eggs everyday too! 😷😷😷
@@bennydarko did you not watch the video? Those ducks are severely protected and harvesting the eggs would be illegal. Don’t be a dumbass and make assumptions
It was a joke.
They should have cotton nests or something ready to replace the nests if theyre going to take that much
I think most cover the nest in hay after they harvest
“Wait for the ducks to leave” bruh y’all just stole the baby duck’s homes😐
They probably know how much to take to make it safe, there were still some left at the bottom. And the birds keep shedding it so.
I doubt these corporations would publicly speak about what they're doing if they violated these ducks, the biodiversity and if they conducted a form of animal abuse. All the ducklings probably leave together with its family, and the eiderdown left ends up redundant which leaves to these corporations being able to ethically use it.
they would not put the ducks in danger when they are the source of income.
Right??? TF... 🙄🙄🙄😤
Man they take like 90% of the nest and leave just a little bit left 😒
She takes the same amount of nest material as I say I’m taking my husband’s fries.
Now this is a metric I can envision.
I hate to see that. The nest still contain eggs and she took it 90% from the nest. She come by car and look very stylish also using so many ring. But she can't bear to see the eggs provided enough by their mother so that they could hatch properly. She is a thief
What a shame things human woman did to another animal that willing to share her feather for the comfort of her eggs.
I wonder if other creature would do the same to that woman children.
@@luciana-hs8cg But she's taking the feathers from the nest in the spring. The feathers are used for insulation in the winter. The eggs will hatch as the weather gets warmer. To the birds, these feathers are otherwise wasted after winter.
@@saureco I live in tropical country. Even here we give the extra warm for the eggs so that it can hatch properly. Sometimes it means lamp to keep the eggs warm enough.
And don't you see the picture shown to us before? How the little bird safely play and covered by their mother with their full nest that hug them, the proper way the bird provide their best for their next generation?
Those feather act as their blanket and home and pillow if you will.
How can you said that your baby not need those things until they totally not need that?
The next time all those eggs left, if miracle happen than it can hatch, then they should life in rough environment, stone under their body, cold because their feather is not properly develop yet and not anything protect them from wind and they become hungrier because their metabolism should survive the weather.
Nearly all but you can have a few
She took the entire nest, like hellooo??
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 that's fine, but she straight up lied and that immediately makes it 100x more untrustworthy
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 yeah... you still part of the problem
@@chadwilliams9141 How am i part part of the problem when people like you keep buying stuff thats way less ethical than eiderdown or eiderfarming
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 100% agree, what an amazing job, i envy you're family's hard work
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 thank you for your family's hard work and keeping the eider duck population safe
If that's what she does when the camera is filming, I'd imagine her slam dunking the eggs into a frying pan and taking 100% of the nest when she's alone.
Do you understand, Endagering the species is entirely harmful to their livlihood? The duck will remake the nest, This species is not at risk
💯
Well it is in there interest that the egg hatches. So probably she knows what she's doing :)
was thinking the same thing while watching
Or, and follow me here, the film crew deliberately mainly used the clips where she took from nests with eggs to create the exact reaction in the comment section you see here for increased level of engagement, which youtube loves so much.
Glad I wasn't the only one outraged by the volume of feathers she takes from clearly active nests after saying she only harvests from abandoned nests.
My husband was pissed and he does not care much for other beings lol
I'm sure she knows what she's doing. Gotta love experts in the comments
@@arturravenbite1693 There are actually experts in the comments speaking about how the way she is doing it is wrong. Obviously we can’t know they’re telling the truth but we can all use our eyes and common sense to see she’s basically taking the entire nest.
She didn’t say she harvest only abandoned nest tho. She did say she only takes some of the active nests. Which she obviously takes way more than she originally let on.
Put Bluntly preaching to the wrong person here bud. Never said she was doing a good or bad thing.
"sustainably sourced" as she proceeds to place the unhatched eggs to the side, harvests their warm nest and returns the eggs to a single remaining feather
I detected no lie
And forget about the shaking of eggs not to mention that are not for omlate
Greed
sad...
Exactly!!! What is she smoking!!
she literally took the entire nest and left it in the grass wtf
She didn't take the entire nest. U probably have to watch it again. If you notice, she sit aside the eggs, grab the whole nest and pluck few of it. Laid back to the ground and returned the eggs.
@HorizonGaming791 hahaha maybe she did.
HorizonGaming791 nah you gotta be pretty dense to believe that and assume that
@@gw-tv5165 you have to get your eyes checked mate. She took 95% of the nest.
@Thornback I am not saying I know anything about Eider, but I have watched videos of plenty of birds that actually do continue to nest in horrible conditions. So I don't know that you point about then leaving if not treated well is accurate.
“we only take a small amount” proceeds to take 99.99% of the nest while the eggs are still there and leave a patch just to say they didnt take 100%. shameful to be honest
idk why they even bother leaving that little bit haha ya might as well just take the whole thing ya greedy bastards haha sheesh
I'm guessing that's all the eggs really need to survive, no point leaving more behind if they're safe as is.
@@bonk2910 nah she’s just greedy and doesn’t care about the ducks
Congrats on being the 1000th person to make this same exact comment. If not for you, we wouldn’t have noticed the other 999 comments.
@@flopyonce1418 doesn’t care about the ducks? If they kill them off, she has no job.
At least replace those poor eggs' nests with some regular wool or something.
considering these people have no livelihood without more eider ducks, I have trouble thinking they're taking too much or not doing it right.
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 thanks for giving us hope
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 nice to know then.
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 you are a beautiful woman for sure
@chinniwonkenobi @Gerda Fridriksdottir I'm yall 5th cousin & we replace the nests with blocks of cheese, the expensive kind with holes in it😂.
Um she practically took more than 80% of the nest I- if that’s how much she collects when filmed how much does she really actually collect when not filmed...:(
All of it
HorizonGaming791 lmao
Not to mention that she says that the nest goes to waste when the ducks leave. I'm fairly certain that the down would get picked over by several species of birds and other animals for building their homes and to use as nesting material. Very little goes to waste in nature--it doesn't matter whether you're on top of a mountain, at sea level, or several kilometers under the ocean.
@HorizonGaming791 lmao
This duck will just put more down, you know, because birds shed their feathers
"They wait until the bird leave their nest completely”
Then the woman just take 90% of the nest with the eggs in it. 👏
I agree with you, and she is crooked, and I'm going to say 95%, she didn't wait for them to leave the nest like she said. When the babies die because they have no nest to hatch and be warm because she took it all I hope she will be happy. Greedy people are never satisfied.
The eggs are fine. We have bin doing this for almost 1000 years. We know what we are doing
@@sinaimuse6562 If the eggs will die you don't think she would get into trouble for being filmed doing this? You think she is that stupid??
@@crazy808ish Ummm yes, since she lied and said she waited for the birds to leave the nest, and clearly they didn't. I don't put anything past liars or greedy people who sell comforters for 8,000 a piece. It's called supply and demand which is why people kill Rhinos for their horns, club baby seals, take sharks fins and drop them back in the ocean to die, etc. Also, she is on camera for the show only not always.
@@sinaimuse6562 0:50 "either by taking small amounts from each nest, or waiting for the birds to disappear completely" Now you can argue that that wasn't a small amount, but don't act like they didn't mention both ways.
"Also, she is on camera for the show only not always." EXACTLY. If she was on camera and doing something wrong, she would take only a tiny bit just for show, and then off camera take the rest. She wouldn't take all that on video if it wasn't alright! She can afford to pretend on one nest if she wanted to.
These birds are in severe decline and are listed as endangered species since 1973.
Hmmm maybe if people like the woman in the video stopped taking 90% of the nest leaving the eggs and ducks with little options for keeping it warm they wouldn't have such issues.
I wonder why 🤣
Thats just simply not true.... you can check for yourselves
So?
@@clingyloki8598 well damn you're right
Literally stole the whole nest wtf. Trying to act like they are saints
Atleast they are not treating them like hens in poultry farms or plucking them when they are alive
@@thegreatfellow you don't justify wrongdoing with something worse. It's like saying "At least they didn't kill or eat them like cannibals." to abusers. Something worse doesn't justify something else that is also wrong.
@@lavendertears1814 "something worse" is what you're calling poultry farms. It is regarded as normal all around the world and that's how you get chicken on your plate. When that is not considered wrong by people couldn't they do the same thing in the case of Eiders as well.
P.S: please check the meaning of cannibal.
I would imagine if they are doing this for a living and rely on the birds, they wouldn't be doing anything that disturbs the nest that badly.
It really worth paying attention and listen and not jump to conclusions, especially if you have no knowledge of the subject whatsoever. She left some amount, which, i assume, in a course of centuries of practice was determined to be sufficient for eggs to survive. Birds parents will rebuild the nest - they constantly do this in a wild. Practice obviously benefits the birds, as population statistics proves, so the only danger to poor birds will be self-righteous ignorant RUclips commenters, like yourself.
If they have enough money to buy this, I'm sure their bedroom isn't cold without this.
It's just a nice accessory made for extra comfortability and decoration.
Ivan Huynh but what if I want to feel cold in the scorching summer just so I can be warm and cozy? I turn my industrial grade AC to 40F and snug myself under eider down blanket. 👌
Exactly
j L that actually sounds nice lol only if i were rich
Rich people buy what they want, not what they need. Simply, brica they can.
Wtf, she took the whole nest!! And that was when the cameras were on her. I just can guess how much are left when she is not being filmed...
In northern Norway we have been harvesting Eiderdown for centuries. But they makes small sheds for the ducks to make their nests in, and wait for the family to leave their nests before taking the down. Often the ducks come back year after year, and gets so familiar to the «farmer» that they don’t care when they check on the nests. The ducks benefits enormously on this, because the farmer protects them from predators, especially cats, mink, foxes and seagulls, and provide them with shelter. But unfortunatly the practise have been dying out, literally, as the old generation who have been doing this for decades are getting old, and very few young people care to take over. And the Eider population are declining, and they are suspecting that the loss of Eiderdown farmers are part of the decline.
I love that Norway is doing it in a more sustainable and ethical manner! ❤️
Now if Iceland, etc, would just do similar...
So agreed with you...
Man ok so now everybody is an expert on eiderdown ducks?
The eggs are fine. The mother comes back and accepts her eggs. This does not harm them.
The nest is also fine. When the mother comes back she replenishes the nest to a point like she would after a storm or something, and the nest is not plucked again.
There are only select areas the eiderdown can be picked here and there is a reason iceland produces 80%, its because we have an extremely high population of these ducks.
Calm down, jesus, its not like most of you would be this vigilant for your t-bone steak or chicken wings. These practises work, the ducks come back every year, none of them die and their population is not in decline in Iceland.
@@lapatron555 this is what I thought would be the case but I'm not sure if you've heard of this new fad called outrage culture, it's all the rage, all the kids are super into it. Basically you get outraged at online content so you can virtue signal how good of a person you are by caring about an issue that's not really an issue until it becomes an issue. Welcome to 2021!
@@Jumbo_Jym yea it's called like cancel culture it's quite dumb
With todays technology, they could easily mark each nest they find then come to remove the nests near the end of the season, you will loose couple of nests, but you ensure less stress on the birds that no longer need to rebuild 90% of their nest and a lower loss of eggs meaning more ducks, meaning more down in the future.
not if you are worried someone else is going to come and take it. Apparently its big money.
Its just like animal racing, whom ever is willing to do what others aren't is going to be most successful.
down covered in bird crap would be my guess the abandoned nest is lower quality. This is why the woman was stealing like 80% of that nest. The eggs look barely warm.
marking the nests could also make it way easier for predators to find them, unless they were marked digitally with some sort of coordinate.
@@squishydonuts1004 hence todays technology..
They want to make the material more rare so they can mark up the price higher
she said: "we only take a little amout off the nest"
1:23
its like taking the entire bed and leaving just one pillow. 😂
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 for now...
me: “oh ok she’s taking a small amount and then she’s gonna put the nest back down that’s go-“
her: *takes the ENTIRE NEST AND LEAVES LESS THAN A HANDFUL*
They said if the birds are there they take a little but if the mother leaves then that is when they take more. The mothers remake their nests relatively quickly and otherwise the wind destroys them anyways.
The eggs need insulation down to the ground. She left the bottom of the nest (you can't really see the bottom of the nest since it was filmed from the side and this angle was obscured by the grass.) the upper part of the nest, around and between the eggs are uncompressed feathers and will blow away during nesting season.
In Norway it's traditional to build tiny wooden or stone "houses" on unpopulated islets for the Eiderduck, so the feathers don't blow away and can be harvested after the birds has left. But only in parts of Norway where this practice has continued for hundreds (or thousands) of years are the Eiderduck keen on building their nests "inside". And a farmer may several hundred Eiderduck "homes" over several dozen islets to build/maintain, with a portion of the "homes" being inhabited in a given year.
@@mathewst3979 table
If an African country harvested this they'd be paid $5 a kilo
Truth
5$ with duck
No thats not true, vanilla harvested in Madagascar and costs $500 a kilo. It is supply and demand.
Yeah cos we don't protect and value what's ours.
Thats what happens with countries with no democracy
"ethically sourced"? that woman just removed the eggs and took the nest protecting them!
she put the eggs back afterwards but yeah she takes too much nest
@@penntopaper9305 Back in what she took the whole nest!!!!!!
@@penntopaper9305 She put them back to die anyway. The birds cannot suddenly produce more feathers to cover the eggs.
those eggs gonna die of coldness in there
Unethical actually
Who the hell went and thought in their head "I'm going to steal a duck's nest and sell it for $8,000"
This lady
Lol
It's because it's so warm... People are too damn greedy though. If people can afford this for a duvet, surely those people can afford a warm house with locally sources alternatives (as they probably export this).
If I could sell birds nest for 8k each I probably would.
@@isloo4588 what do you mean?
This whole series could be resumed in "Because Iceland"
Haha yes
Don’t we have enough bedding materials out there. Those animals need to stay warm too out in the wild.
Money > Everything else
@@evalonia Even if they take 100% of the nest, there's a billion artificial, cheap, animal safe insulators they could use. This isn't just about money, this is being a prick
@@jjOnceAgain Yeah. I'm realising this more and more when it comes to animals.
WE have enough. The rich need more. Iono why.
@@jjOnceAgain artificial most of the time equals plastic, tho, and we all know how that is going
"We only take a little". But steals over 90%.
And that's with the camera filming her. I bet she slam dunks the eggs into a frying pan and takes 100% of the nest when she's on her own.
@@bort- yeah
Sadly no one to stop her
99%* bruh ur eyes need some check up
@@mr.unknownymous2114 99.9%. hope my eyes are ok now. 😑
she need to be schooled about the correct meaning of "little"
They could have atleast replaced the birds nest with something else while they take the feathers.
First coherent comment, that not just critic but give solution.
✨👌
They do leave some of the nest to put the eggs in, but it doesnt look like its enough
If they didn't leave enough, they wouldn't have any thing to harvest next year. I trust that people who have been doing this their whole lives know what they're doing.
@@herzogsbuick Exactly, i could not find the correct words. If they wouldn´t preserve it, they wouldn´t have nothing to look for. Thanks for your comment.
Do you really watch the video? The farmer said that if the nest left by the duck it'll just blew away
How is this ethical? Just took 80% of nest with eggs in it. She is just saying its "ethical" to maintain the premium price.
Perhaps 20% is all the eggs need.
We replace the eider down with other insolation instead (dried hey is the most commonly used option)
@@MrOscar5690 she took all off camera...These business people can sell their kids, if demand soars
She took like 95% and left a ninch there
How is it ethical? Why is it unethical? This practice has been refined over centuries in a way that maintains the population of birds. The reason it is expensive is not ethicality but scarcity due to the regulations of the Icelandic government to maintain ethicality and prevent practices like battery farming.
The fact that she lied with a straight face
bleacheese the fact that you’re this stupid and you type it on a RUclips video
Huh?
As most Icelandic do
Once the nest is removed, the bird has to rebuild it. Having to rebuild an entire nest imposes a lot of stress on the birds, so it’s harmful to them. They should wait for the eggs to hatch before taking away their nests.
exactly. and people are like "the ducks are protected, they're not close to extinction or anything." why do we need something to be on the brink of never existing again to care? so annoying
Plus birds don't grow feathers fast enough to keep fixing their nests. Take most of the nest will leave the birds with having to try taking down feathers where they already depleted on their bodies. The amount of nest she takes is overkill and leaves the eggs exposed and cold and has a higher likely hood of killing developing birds in the eggs if she does this to a nest that isn't new.
Thanks for the info, David Attenborough.
@@edmer68 Ikr, I am so glad these experts have come out to condemn these professional practitioners, maybe I should become a warrior of the keyboard, then I'd be able to master any profession in under 10 minutes!
Probably nest full of bird poop is not so expensive)
I don't know if taking someone home and left the kids homeless is ethical.
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 This comment needs to be higher.
Imagine hating this video when there are humans burning the forests, polluting the oceans in which homes to billions of animals, uhm right just forget about those
@@rojokalawakan at least not me doing that
Oh no, you dont need to worry, the eider just walks back to her nest when the gatherer is finished. And the egs continue like normal👍🏻
The ducks prefer the less down because it keeps foxes away
I thought they said they wait until the birds are gone before collecting ? And here she goes disrupting the nest and taking everything which is clearly still inhabited
notice they specified after the /duck/ is gone, not the eggs, they did that purposefully
its stealling !!!!
@@lilyee83 not really
Maybe they meant when the mom leaves and not the family. She clearly was not keeping them in mind.
They mean the parents.
And the ducks easily stock back the missing bits again.
The greed of human knows no bound. . You steal 90% for yourself and leave only 10% . Smart ethical move😎
Totally smart
She literally took 95% of the nest while the eggs were still in the nest. Imagine how much she would of taken if she wasn't being filmed. I will never buy this product.
www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/19/eiderdown-harvesting-iceland-eider-duck
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 Thanks for sharing, I felt that the process didnt harm them aswell. Keep up the good work!
you're making assumptions based on information you dont know, if this was a problem there would be a decline in their population or at least they would move away but neither of those things are happening, ducks arent humans, they dont care about comfort as much as they care about the effectiveness, as long as they reproduce fine and live healthy lives there really isnt a problem with it, and if you see this so abhorrently go look at the fur farmers in northern Europe, that is 100x worse than this situation.
@@brockcockren8643 Biologically the feathers serve a purpose to those eggs and mother nature didn't design these animals with the intent of having the feathers removed. Give your a head a shake. Why would the woman even say that they only take "SOME" of the feathers? It's because she understands that the feathers serve a purpose! It's too bad she took 95% of them for money though.
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 You don't know shit Gerda.
So she just straight up stole a nest and proceeded to replace it with grass huh
Exactly =))) ... right after the guy tells us how ethical the harvesters are .=))
They know what they're doing. No way of pleasing you people.
@Flaven80 why would they intentionally kill or harm their main source of income. Those eggs are literally a golden goose.
@Flaven80 we're talking Iceland. Probably the most eco friendly country out there. Plus they might have replaced the nest with something off camera.
@Flaven80 bro they know what theyre doing. Theyre not idiots.
Am I the only one who’s never heard of this before?
Me and you both. I guess that's what it means to be poor😂😂😂😂
Me too
I just checked the price of the products made with that material. Let's just say normal civilians wouldn't buy it.
Your name concerns me
Never heard of it before but just discovered the word eiderdown was "translated" to edredom in Portuguese a word we use to refer to warmer blankets but they don't have any eiderdown on it lol
"This is ethically sourced," she says as she steals 98% of the nest needed to warm the eggs.
Yes it is… You’re just being emotional. The ducks literally just build new nests. It is ten times more ethical than any slaughterhouse operating in the USA or UK…..
@@boass lol wasn't anticipating to being called emotional (especially when this is 7 months old and has as little as 38 likes). .
Either way, it was more of the juxtaposition of what she was saying compared to what she was doing on on camera. But imagine a wee little child with cotton candy had a random stranger say "don't worry, I'm ethically sourcing this" as they proceed to snatch 98% of the candy for themselves. To me it's little sad and funny, so it elicited more of a smirk and an eye roll from me more than anything.
I read about this practice in Jules Verne's "Journey to the centre of the Earth"... and that was written in the late half of the 1800's, it's amazing to see how this practice continues to this day in the exact same modus operandi as described in the novel.
For those wondering about her taking most of the nests feathers, if Jules Verne's research into the matter is correct: They DO take all or nearly all the feathers, then they wait for the female eiderduck to pluck more feathers and redo it, then they collect them again until the female doesn't have any more of the priced chest feathers and then the male eiderduck redoes the nest. However, male eiderduck feathers are stiff and have no value so the collectors leave, the nest is finally left alone and the ducklings hatch with no problems.
My head feels a little lighter. Thank you for this comment.
That's a relief. Thank you
Just started this book a little while ago and was going to comment the same thing. Thank you
That still sucks but atleast the chicks don't die
This need more likes.
Yeah I’m sure those duck eggs didn’t need that insulated nest they’ll be fine 😓
Yeah! They will 😄
I'm mad about how much she's taking, but at least that kind of duck isn't in danger of going extinct.
"This is FINE"
- frozen solid egg
Cruel company
Global warming in action.....
Them saying they only take a little of the nest is like me saying I'm only gunna eat a few chips from the bag
Ouch. She is actually removing the eggs from their nest. It's like stealing a baby's home! Just noticed 99% of commenters too thought this was OUTRAGEOUS!
Literally every icelander i see in these comment section is saying that the eggs are safe.
The nest is for wintertime. She harvests them on spring (aka the season AFTER winter, in case yall cant connect the dots at this point)
@@jay_dmp of course they would.
@@chrisbishop9531 Of course they would what exactly…???
@@jay_dmp So before they hatch and leaves them to potentially roll off and get chilled easy? Sounds like a great reason why they are endangered.
Wait until the birds to disappear completely??? they takin the birds nest before even eggs are hatched.
It depends on the farmer, some wait for them to leave completely and take the entire nest, while other don’t wait and take around 80% of the nest leaving 20% for the eggs (which is enough). Thats what’s evident in the video.
@@raminajm2163 is it though? Because frankly I don't see any evidence that shows that the down that's left is enough to keep the chicks nest safe. Also how can we really believe what she says when she so obviously becomes hypocritical from how she says "we take a small amount" then proceeds to take 80% + of the nest material. Litterally no one would agree that above half is a small amount, and the majority of people would agree that a small amount is something below 30% of the total.
"We have to look very carefully to find the nests, and I'm sure we do not find all of them"
Good. I hope you dont find every one of them.
I legit thought by “we wait for the ducks to leave” I thought they meant for the chick to leave
"We only take a little from the nest or wait until the nest is abandoned."
Proceeds to go to a nest and take 90% of all the feathers there. I'm pretty sure that if the people don't take the down, native animals will still use it in their nests for warmth.
We'll literally see this duck on the endangered list within 5-10 years ;)
Yet this practice has been around for 1000 and they’re still here. You’re a genius. Go live in Iceland for a while and see it first hand before you judge.
Been and seen this first hand and it’s a perfect relationship between man and animal. They both get looked after. Also the eggs can stay warm with the smallest amount of the down…the female duck also replaces what’s lost when it returns.
The IQ level in this comment section is astounding.
@@Joshuagilchrist55 yeah sure ... i'll just run on over there. Thanks for the advice.:)))
@@Joshuagilchrist55 oh you mean the commercial eider down industry has been there for a hundred years with mechanical machinery to hasten the process of creating luxurious beddings for humans all over the world?
The feather harvesters have more incentive than anyone to keep these duck populations high. It is mentioned in the video how the duck is heavily protected by Icelandic law. Please think before you comment.
@@martin.supertramp What does that have to do with anything? The Eiderdown population has been thriving in Iceland despite machines being built.
Everything with "Iceland" attached is expensive. Maybe they can start selling air from Iceland bet they can make good money off that too.
So there are quite a few companies that sell "fresh air" in jars. Some of them are in Iceland.
And its pretty pricey
""Only small amount of feather each nest..."" 1:20 really?
I guarantee you they take a lot more than they're supposed to No Doubt
@@joemomtana6014 Just watch 1:20 .... they took 90% of nest
@@Demetttttt trying to be optimistic ....
"Eiderdown farmers will harvest this down either by taking small amounts from each nest or by waiting for the birds to dissapear completely"
Notice the words: either, or and bird.
They will either take small amounts while the bird is there or larger amounts when they arent. If the birds are not there then they take larger amounts. Nothing here is contradictory nor is it unethical. If anything this is beneficial as farmers are now invested in the safety of the bird populations. The fact that oftentimes the wind will blow away the nest if the birds are not present and the birds return and remake it is no different to when it the nest is taken with the minimum left for the eggs to survive. Either way: no birds are being harmed, no eggs are being harmed and this practice in contrast to ones like whaling have not had any adverse effects on the population of these birds.
@@ThatOneBreadstickEater There are still eggs at 1:20, so its not abaddoned nest. If you take entire 90% of nest while there are still eggs, eggs will lose their heat and may die before preparing new nest
Wow, first she took almost entire nest. Second she is justifying that if she doesn't take it, it will blow away waste👏
Yes I can totally see her taking the entire Nest once the eggs have hatched because it would blow away or be used by another animal after the mother has left, but those eggs were still lying in the nest unhatched..that's removing too much material it appears to me..
This is how animals goes extinct.
Right. She probably clubs baby seals too.
@@Frozenmemory1 they're not even close to being endangered
They know what they are doing. They have been doing this for decades
@KG Woods they didnt take the entire nest
"take a little bit from each nest" SHE JUST took 95% of the damn nest! I have to wonder how many of those eggs end up freezing or how many of those ducklings end up dead because they destroy the nests each time...
Exactly, this is so messed up.
You are right, taking warm nests is like collecting eggs. Like the Farallone Egg Company, which by 1851 was collecting half a million guillemot eggs a year for sale. The collectors sailed in the spring, broke already laid eggs, so they soon received fresh ones. For half a century, at least 14 million guillemot eggs have been removed from the islands! Scientists estimate that the total population of seabirds has declined by 70 percent over the past 60 years. In fact, these numbers are even worse, because many are threatened with extinction: of the 360 known species of seabirds, most are endangered or endangered, which is more in percentage terms than in any other group of birds.
Is sad tbh
Most of them. Ffs
95? Check ur eyes, she took 99% turn on the brightness✌️😆
"ethical"
*Proceeds to destroy the nest with eggs in them*
She’s the CEO, how often do you think she does the manual task of collecting the eiderdown? She probably hasn’t done it for a while and made a mistake
@@rodrigochayamiti9198 well it seems that even with the way she is Handling the nest the population of these birds is not declining so what she's doing is clearly not hurting the eggs
"we wait to take the fibers" shows her taking almost all fibers from a clearly active nest. She should be ashamed tbh. Cause she's full of it.
And you are an expert in Eider Ducks? Ohh wait, you aren’t, and you have no clue about their behavior.
@@boass tell em
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"If we didn't take it it would just blow away."
Immediatelly shows her violating a nest by moving eggs. Yeah you could have just not done the whole eco act.
Yes! “It would just blow away and be useless” 🤔 or maybe you could just not ?? And just let nature be. There’s not a shortage in materials to make duvets and pillows. 😑
@@cantfiteveryheart There is indeed no shortage in materials to make duvets and pillows. Then again, she can sell these for $8000 a piece, and by the time those birds are endangered or outright extinct, she'll be 6ft under in an expensive coffin.
"They should replace the feathers with something else or artificial wool"
Then they'd be introducing invasive materials that could possibly harm the ducks or pollute the environment which would also harm the ducks.
Yup, that's why they use hay
They need to study the feathers and mimic it with other synthetic fibers
@@giovannicazares3110 synthetic fibers that cause harm to the environment to make?
@@giovannicazares3110 what so we can produce more polyester to kill more whales and make us choke then blame the people for not planting enough trees eventhough trees dont even made 30% of oxygen?
@@yonathanrakau1783 the trees want there air back b they said you're wasting it!
There's good alternatives for pillows and blankets that doesn't involve taking the nests like that. I get that people did it in the old days, but today it's just greed.
I've never had the privilege of trying eider down anything - and I don't think my broke ass would ever get the chance to spluge that irresponsibly - I do wish down alternatives didn't feel (to my neuro-atypical self, at least) so ... "off" ... compared to say goose down, or down + feather comforters, or I'd be more willing to give them a whirl. For now, I'll stick to actual goopse down (responsibly sourced if possible), but I hope tech can advance - maybe growing down like they're working to do with lab grown meat!
HE said taking SMALL amounts of Eiderdown 0:48 min
SHE took more than 90% of that nest 1:48 min
The bird comes home just to see her home was vandalized
"Eiderdown farmers will harvest this down either by taking small amounts from each nest or by waiting for the birds to dissapear completely"
Notice the words: either, or and bird.
They will either take small amounts while the bird is there or larger amounts when they arent. If the birds are not there then they take larger amounts. Nothing here is contradictory nor is it unethical. If anything this is beneficial as farmers are now invested in the safety of the bird populations. The fact that oftentimes the wind will blow away the nest if the birds are not present and the birds return and remake it is no different to when it the nest is taken with the minimum left for the eggs to survive. Either way: no birds are being harmed, no eggs are being harmed and this practice in contrast to ones like whaling have not had any adverse effects on the population of these birds unlike that of whales.
This practice has been refined for centuries. That does not mean it is good nessesarily just that it is efficient and due to the scarcity of this material REQUIRES that farmers maintain the populations of these birds. If it had any adverse effects on the birds then there would be noticable effects on the amount of Eiderdown produced and because there are no signs of this, it is simply wrong to consider this unethical as all signs show that it is an ethical and sustainable practice.
That's a real after 1 minute thing
1:00 "we only take downs which ducks have left and otherwise would blow away"
1:20
Wtf is this then Karen?
This is the equivalent of someone breaking into your room, stealing your bed, and leaving only the pillowcase for you.
No its like someone finding your house, hiring a company to destroy it completely all while your at work, then coming home to only a pillow case.
The best part is they call that whole BS "ethical sourcing."
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How is disturbing the eggs waiting until they leave
slerk9 I think they mentioned SOME wait until they leave while some take some while the eggs are still there
No it is just mentioned they wait for the mothers to leave as normally when the mothers leave the wind destroys the nest after a while and the birds simply remake it. If they dont take the eiderdown it is useless and is simply taken by the wind with no impacts to the birds. There is no difference in people taking it before the wind does.
They should just employ the Eider Ducks instead of stealing their homes
lol
Very true! 🤭
its ethically harvested that means the eider ducks will leave the nests then if its not collected it would just blow always so its not rlly stealing they abandoned their nests
@m dont they take the nests with out eggs or do they take the ones even with eggs?
@m oh
In Norway they at least build hatching houses for Eiderducks and pad them with dried seaweed. They respect the fact that Eiderducks on the red list and don't take the down before the nests have been leaved. How they harvest the down in Iceland is really sad to see and very questionable.
$8,000 for a damn blanket because it’s the one of the warmest materials on earth? I’m thinking if you can afford an $8,000 blankie….you can probably afford to turn up the heat some🤨🤷🏻♂️
Anyone that pays that much for a blanket has more money than brains.🤯
the point is not that its warm, the point is that its a luxury good. a bragging piece. if we applied your logic to say, food for example, why arent we all just eating crappy fast food? anyone who pays more for gourmet food has more money than brains 🤯
"We only took a little from each nest" yeah 1:24 she took like everything from the nest
“Ethically harvested” they said. This is disturbing :(
you have no idea. Who decides what is "ethical" anyway?
i suspect one we are going to hear about in the future is antarctic krill. Its kind of the wild west down there. Its all labeled as "sustainable" and crap like that. But theres no way they know that, the fishery hasn't been going on long enough its all BS. Its just no one is really looking at it yet. But Krill are a very important part of the ecosystem and we have no idea what sort of long term damage we will be causing with that pretty unregulated fishery.
Only reason I looked at it was because Im a sled dog racing activist, and there is a krill oil company that sponsors a few of the racers. One of whom has a questionable reputation. The alarms in my brain went off seeing a dude who chains dogs and beats them talking about "ethical and sustainable." I worked in dog sled racing so I know how shady THAT gets, and then I saw that and just kinda did my own homework. and yea, theres alot of shady stuff with the whole krill oil thing. All the studies are privately funded and stuff like that. Its a total joke.
She stated, "when the birds are all gone and the babybirds are ready to leave. The down is gonna blow away and be useless." A minute later we witnessed her taking a mother eiders down straight from under the innocent eggs. That's false statements right there.
I mean she did say that when birds are ready to leave its gonna be blown away so she takes them before they are ready 😂
Birds also abandon their nests, they closely monitory the island to protect the nests and if all the parents are gone then those eggs are as good as dead if they arent already.
"We take just a little from the nest" Continues to remove live baby eggs and takes the entire nest and continues on to the next nest to take 100% of all the live nests they find! I HIGHLLLLY doubt they are doing this ethnically like they say.... Don't care what they claim. Greed and profits turn even the most ethical of people into dirty, conniving, horrible people!
Facts
do you know theyre live eggs? she's likely taking from abandoned nests, she wouldnt be doing something harmful to the species bc that makes no sense business wise.
@@Voiidpriince uhhh yeah there is business reasoning to take from the nest... They don't give a shit if the bird needs the nest or not, they just want the material for their expensive coats and products they make with this stuff! Notice how almost 98% of the comments are saying the same exact thing about her taking wayyyy too much of the nest?!
@@powsniffer0110 they literally couldn’t have a business if they were harming the species, that would make zero sense. Also yeah everyone is hive minding on the same sentence, we don’t work there, we don’t actually have any insider knowledge on the situation or how everything works. Of course there will be criticism for things none of us are informed on.
@@Voiidpriince you act like companies have never done things that would seemingly hurt their business in the long-run for short term profits.... This is literally EXACTLY how tons of companies operate like oil companies and mining companies. Screw the long term, we'll worry about that later ... We just need to gain as much profits RIGHT NOW! You're living in ignorant bliss if you don't think companies do this ... Talking about hive thinking and talking shit about societal thinking... 🤔
"We only take small amount of the nest"
Looks like she took the whole nest. The little bit that she left isn't enough to keep those 3ducks warm
And another kind of predator: humans collecting the protection of eggs. I couldn't ever buy such thing, even for lower price. Thanks to share so we are all aware of it.
Do you eat meat?
@@aryanbaviskar4127 Probably not, who knows? Lol.
@@aryanbaviskar4127 that has nothing to do with anything. You dont eat these ducks, you're killing then for no reason, as there are other ways more sustainable to keep warm.
And another kind of predators: humans collecting the eggs of a chicken infront of their parents. I couldn't every buy such a thing, even for lower price.
@@aryanbaviskar4127 no. Why?
1:30 it's ethical but you just took away the nest for those eggs?
It is ethical, if they didnt take the nest the wind would destroy it. They left the bare minimum nessesary to keep the eggs alive and the birds tend to remake their nests quite easily.
@@ThatOneBreadstickEater and they also add hay and other insolation so the eggs stay warm until the mother duck returns.
@@ThatOneBreadstickEater bro she literally just said they'd wait for the ducks to be done breeding 1:55
And then next second do the exact opposite are you arguing a fact?
Personally I wouldn't care if she cooked the eggs on video and ate them I just don't like a lier.
Two solutions; replace the nest with something else like cotton or whatever, OR add a weighted fake egg to a full nest so it stays when the checks are gone
She moved eggs out and took the entire nest which was there for some reason. And how is it ethical? Can someone tell me?
Its not
@@gerdafridriksdottir8836 they could have also shown that in this video, or talked about how they ensure that what they do is ethical. The only thing they show is a lady in expensive clothing take a nest in its entirety and not do anything else
Okay so taking the nest isn't unethical as the wind destroys the nest if they dont and they leave the minimum needed for the birds to survive. This practice is centuries old and if it would be bad for the birds we would see a decline in their population. Instead farmers protect the birds from predators and collect about as much as the wind takes without them which is roughly 95% of it
1:23 literally takes the whole nest and with eggs still there ... so what happen to ethically waiting for the birds to leave .... this video is stupid
i think there is a reason why a bird would build her nest to that size and it should be just right size. So taking 90% of that nest and still convincing that its no problem, is not ok.
Comment section: WE ONLY TAKE SMALL AMOUNT....🤔🤔
Imagine the duck extinct and everyone asking, "What happened to all the duck eggs in the nest". The Farmer : idfk
"Harvested in ethical way"
Continue taking 90% of their nest. LMAO
I dunno, but I don't think this is very ethical. The down is covering the eggs for a reason.
Its not ethical to walk around stomping on ants all day. Have you stayed off your feet today?
It sure is a good thing to have a super insulated $8000 blanket to keep warm in on those freezing winter nights. It’s not like they can afford to heat their homes, you know, with the price of fuel these days😂
Chicks might be freezing, but at least rich people are gonna be nice and cozy cuddled up in their $8000 blankets
Wow this freaking lady took like 90% of the nest that still had a family living in it...freaking crazy
75% - 80%
I thought messing with nests made birds not want to come back to them? Do these ducks still take care of their eggs after this woman has handled them and stolen the nests out from under them? Why not just like, mark where the nests are and come back later when the ducks have hatched? Surely y'all would know how long it takes these ducks to hatch by now.
That’s a myth. Mother birds will continue to incubate their eggs and feed babies once a person has touched them. If you see a baby bird or egg and you can also see the nest it fell out of, ALWAYS put it back. Also, this is their livelihood, they’re not going to do anything that will result in less ducks surviving. Obviously, the nesting ducks can replace the down that’s taken. I agree, though, it would be better to closely monitor nests and take the whole thing as soon as it’s not needed anymore.
Imagine you're the bird and you see this weird ape thing walking up to your nest and stealing all your feathers. LMAOOOO
NOT MY FEATHERS!!!
- the cabbage bird
I guess an $8000 duvet cover makes it "ethically acceptable" to take out 95% of the eiderdown out of the nest with the eggs still unhatched....
Exactly
"Hey can I have some of that nest"
"Only a spoonful"
Then King Bach proceeds to produce a comically large spoon.
I love how she is walking around in a $3,000 trench coat, $200 sunglasses, $800 watch, $250 rain boots while stealing 99% of the eggs nest. Looks like she doesn't work a hard day in her life. She should come work with me for a day. At least what I do is ethical, but I imagine I make about 1/60th of what she makes a year
Yes how wonderful! After ethically taking away all the eiderdown feather nest and leaving 2 feathers there, the eggs may or may not hatch. Just great, soon enough they’ll all go extinct and it’ll be a mystery as to why it’s going extinct isn’t it.
Why does every SJW in the youtube section think he, she or whatever is a duck expert?
@@thundereagle4130 people stopped using the term sjw in 2018 go find a life
@@penntopaper9305 True, nowadays they are called BLM or Antifa terrorists.
@@thundereagle4130 Are you a duck expert?
@@novaangle2183 Kinda, I helped with the conservation of hookbill ducks when I was studying animal behaviour. My grandparents raise free-range chickens for over 30 years now.
“Ethically harvested” sure....
yes it is lol educate yourself first next time ;)
compared to the rest of pillows out there, yes, it is.
@@kris_py wouldn't cotton pillow be good
@@ragnheiur5608 doesn't look like it.
All of this tragedy is because a rich person wants to say: My pillow is made out of Eiderdown or my duvet is made out of Eiderdown !!!Unbelievable!!
I can't believe she is handling those eggs, does she realize that she basically lied about waiting until the nests are abandoned to collect? I wonder how many eggs are abandoned because her scent is all over them
I was wondering same cuz most avians discard their egg if found other animals scent over eggs as she carelessly touched their egg literally like poultry egg
@@Leo-bu8hv actually no, birds dont have a good sense of smell, they wont know if theres been humans nearby unless theyve seen them there. I think that lie was just something told to us to not disturb birds when we were younger.
@@TheDragonQueen-uh4lm yes it's an urban legend.
That's a myth that's long been debunked. As much as I agree with you, please don't spread misinformation.
@@WildVee your mom's virginity was a myth in middle school, I've seen babies left by robins because a human handled the chicks, and I've seen a house wren throw one of its own back out of the nest after I tried to rescue a fallen chick. You can believe whatever debunking RUclips conspiracy videos, accusing someone of spreading misinformation seems to be the death rattle of the woke culture. You must be one of those Netflix employees that has extra time today?
"Ethical" harvesting, i don't see anything ethical about taking away the main thing thatll keep the ducklings warm when the parents are away