I love the analog tachometer in the 400. These all digital displays are boring. Nevertheless, I still prefer the 400. It seems like they are just trying to push something new instead of evolving the bike like when the 250R became 300, and then 400. Those were justified full transformations.
Also hard to read at a glance when flying around road r track. Analog you know at glance where needle is where you are at rpm or very close. many racers in the day taped off ll but the area where needle is between say 5 and 10 grand where power is. varies on bike and power band but if needle is visible you are in power range if not you to low or high down shift or upshift at a glance you know. On my bike if needle is at 12 o clock to about 2 o clock it is in perfect range at a glance at speed I know. But after so many years riding I can feel the rpm in my hands and but pretty damn accurate and sound also.
Second Gear makes me buy both of them because of their badass editing skills, it was hella entertaining, 10/10 vid I'm a complete beginner at this biking stuff and I'm already in love with it from how well this video explained everything
Basically an update of Ninja 400 on Euro 5 regulations I guess. But my biggest gripe is the swingarm. It does the job but compared to it's rivals, it looks the most basic.
i think the same, this ninja was made for euro 5.5 regulation, also kawasaki built a basic machine because they have the another ninja 400 with 4 inline engine
That is the big question. PRICE. We need actual road test reviews ? You stand there looking at them ready to choose. Hmm .. The engine behavior and personality are different but IT is basically the same bike. sO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MAP IT? The Ninja 400 is a fantastic machine. Calling it a Kawasaki 500 kind of pisses me off. It is nothing like the Legendary 500 and I should know. And what about insurance. Are they going to ding you for imaginary CC's" @@SecondGearYT
Great comparison of these two bikes. The 500 with 451 cc vs 399 in the 400. It's true that there is a 650, and I agree it could've been called a Ninja 450 to be more accurate. Thanks!
Ninja 500 looks really cool, the very least Kawasaki tried to keep up with the competition, but the front shocks and swing arm really stick out like a sore thumb on how they cut cost for this bike.
Think I’ll keep the 2018 Ninja 400 and my old Vulcan 500. My Vulcan 500 parallel twin is surprisingly peppy for old technology and non fuel injection.. and being heavier than the Ninja 400. I enjoy riding them both but the Vulcan is my go to bike.
Hope the USA version is making at least 50bhp. As far as weight, installing after market pipe should get the weight down 10lbs and increase power delivery.
@@joaoahwouldn’t a smaller engine have less inertia to begin with??? 🤔 anyways… Small displacement 180 twins are plain and lack character… much like a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine 😂 Kawasaki brining back a screaming small displacement inline 4 is brilliant!!!
I am worried that the engine will loose some of its fun revy nature with the longer stroke as that was the thing that stood out to me on the 400... We shall see - ex 2018 Ninja 400 KRT owner
I was a very lightweight rider on my '72 500, 2 stroke . Raising the gear ratio way up was a major improvement! It was capable of 140 MPH (on the speedo) with a strong tail wind but don't do that too often. Not great handling. That bike was literally insane! I suspect the power and max torque must have aligned. @@lovelessissimo
@vtecninja6363 it makes the engine more lively, at the cost of top speed. It will rev faster, getting to redline at a lower speed. Many bikes have the issue of being geared too high, because its good for emissions and fuel efficiency, but the acceleration suffers. It's one of the huge benefits of having a chain versus a driveshaft. If you make the front sprocket smaller, it has the same effect. Your 400 doesn't need anything like that, though. It's a great engine and setup. I ride a z900 and it's great in the same way.
The Ninja 400 had 45hp in Europe due to A2 licence, but not due to maximum power but due to power to weight ratio of 0.2kW/kg max, getting: 168kg * 0.2kW/kg * 1.34hp/kW = 45hp The Ninja 500 will also be limitted first by the power to weight ratio: 172kg * 0.2kW/kg * 1.34hp/kW = 46.1hp So I would expect the Ninja 500 to have 46.1hp. So both bikes should have the same maximum allowed power to weight ratio of 0.2kW/kg, else Kawasaki is stupid.
it's so minor I doubt you would feel a tangible difference especially with the bit of extra torque it provides, and it might also mean the engine responds better to modding overall.
I was trying to figure out what i meant myself. The original two stroke 500 is Legendary! They were too fast actually for some reason and were later detuned to about 58 HP. 2 strokes have far less parts up top and probable rev up faster. 60 horse power today, seems like nothing. Hitting the power band on the old 500 was like touching a hot burner! OUCH! Wheelies at 90 mph. WTF. That reminds me. There was a famous book and movie called Fahrenheit 451 (the burning point of paper).. A good reason this new bike should be called Ninja 451. Sounds HOT!!! @@RitmodeGigante
I love your videos man, they help me to make better decisions 🙇🏻 Please can you make a video comparing the ninja 500 with the zx4rr? 🙏🏼 I would like to hear your opinion about it
Well in this video he said the 500 has upside forks, and it doesn't. The 400rr does. The poster of this video used an ai voiceover, and got information wrong. Why would you like to hear more of "their" opinion?
@@WiltedRaven2 Yeah, I'm laughing at Kawasaki on this one, and disappointed in them at the same time. If they wanted to go after the 450cc market fine but at least be honest about it.
@@WiltedRaven2 FR! Add some stroke to pick up a few CC's and by nature it gains some torque. Big deal. 🙄 Even Aprilia is straight up with their 457 which I find kinda funny because if Kawai can call this a 500 Aprilia sure could too! 🤣
I always thought it was a bit of overkill to make a ninja 125 , ninja 250, ninja 300, ninja 400, ninja 500, ninja 650, ninja zx6r, ninja 900, I mean the list goes on and on.
Between this the 650 and the zx4rr its like they are trying to get rid of the 400 lmao. The problem is that they overprice these bikes and they dont provide enough value to make the 400 obsolete or too warrant spending the same amount of money that you could use to buy a 636
I think that the Z500 would be real "new" motorcycle if it would have at least an inversed fork with better brakes, but the motorcycle is basically just "better", but it is not like "wow" because it has been since 2018, almost 6 years and they haven't done that, a bit frustrating
Ninja 400 is my dream bike from past 3 years. I'm much upset with the launch of Ninja 500. I've a doubt... Will kawasaki discontinue the Ninja 400 after the launch of Ninja 500? This should not discontinue..new Ninja 500 has shitty looks.. Ninja 400 looks so awesome
Idc anyone say, 400 is a great bike. Simple, cheap, so much fun to ride, been dailying it for about a month now put little over 1000miles it’s still fun lil speed rocket, it kind of reminds me of Toyota 86, it’s not a fast bike but it’s a bike that teach you how to ride well. I love flicking mine
@@Alexkasai Exactly right! Awesome little bike. Love mine! Super fun to toss around on back roads and just out cruising around and easily has enough power for the highway, at least around me. Sits comfortably at 80+ MPH and still has reserve to pass.
@@Alexkasaimy son bought a brand new Ninja 400 in 2018. Rode it very little and decided he’d rather have a new CBR600RR instead. The dealer only offered him 3k trade in for the Ninja 400 that he had recently bought brand new from them and I laughed and said “y’all can s**T and fall back in it.” Then my wife and I gave our son 3500 for the Ninja 400 right in front of them and rode it home. Then went to a different dealership and he bought a new CBR600RR there. I love the little Ninja 400. I also have a Vulcan 500 that’s a parallel twin too. I enjoy riding them both but the Vulcan is my go to bike if I know I will be riding any distance. It’s a lot more comfortable and even though it’s a hundred plus pounds heavier it still performs almost as well as the Ninja 400. Except for corners, it doesn’t corner as well as the Ninja for sure. But in a straight line the 400 can’t get away from my old carbureted 500 Vulcan.
You should buy a used something else and form your own opinion after gaining some experience, and only then buying new. I promise you won't have to ask, if you do this. You also will greatly increase your chances of not messing up a factory bike
Ninja400HG has keyless feture and 500 in its name is they way they made their product sound better because of the larger engine like CBR500 has 471cc at least it's above 450cc
Does this mean that Ninja 400 is discontinued? I live in a country where my license is split into 3: up to 200cc, up to 400cc and unlimited cc. really saddens me as I only got the license for up to 400cc... no more ninja 400 means i gotta wait for Kawasaki to eventually make an electric equivalent. RIP Ninja 400, just like the Versys 300. hopefully I can see a Versys or Ninja EV for 400cc and lower displacements
I loved the evolution of the Ninja 400 and reading all the comments. A thrilling machine without all the Speeding tickets. It's an Absolute Rush. Look at my little picture to the left up there. Now that's a REAL 500! That's why I feel so offended. Just call it a 451 and be done with all the name calling. Apples and Oranges. It's not a 500 Kawasaki. Pretender to the throne? Jeezsus Man! I know full well that the very Popular Ninja 4oo is a much better overall Bike than mine now but that was a different time, a different era. No showroom Car could beat it.@@rolanddiaz1974 NONE! Fasted thing on the street. Tap on the shoulder, Did you see the Blue 750 Bud? Yeah, I know. That's crazy. People will die.
Why? The ninja has always been an entry level bike, 300 was fine, maybe even 400 but 500 makes it a full on midsize bike that is completely different than the model its always been. At least yamaha has the common sense to stop at 320 with the R3. Instead of making this engine bigger put the 400cc in the versys x, like every one has wanted for years. Literally the only way this make any sense is if they are making a new ninja 350 too.
Interesting point. Back in the 1990s to 2009, the older Kawasaki 500R had 49hp and 30 ft lbs torque back then, weighing about 370 lbs, before the Ninja 650 replaced it. It was far enough from the classic Ninja 250Rs and 2008 model, before those bumped up briefly to 300cc and now 400cc. Kawasaki, if they're replacing the Ninja 400 with this "500" 451cc motorcycle, are completely moving away from the smaller class of the past as an option in the US anyway. Having learned and enjoy the 250Rs for many years, those taught me discipline with riding. There were times I would've gotten into danger/trouble if I had a faster bike while learning, so I agree it's important to offer smaller displacement bikes. Plus I used to take my Ninja 250R onto the freeways all the time, no issues (top speed downhill was 110mph) other than slower passing compared to my newer Ninja 650. So timing was important when passing on a 250R, and avoiding going up hills if passing, where it wouldn't accelerate very much. Still a fun, capable bike even at 250cc's.
It will be interesting to see if they bring out a Versy 450, sorry 500, as the Versy 300 is getting a bit out dated now. I have a 2023 Z400 and will keep this as there isn't enough improvements on this model and I agree with all the other comments that is should be called a 450.
In the real world or the track the difference between these bikes will be determined by the pilot not the bike, they are just too similar - if you have a current model 400 keep it, if you are a new buyer or upgrading from a ninja 300 then go for the 500 for sure!
Ok let's settle, in oder to prove cfmoto vs kawasaki, we need a rematch actual shoot out who is the best in the King of speed of 500cc inline 2 category regardless of fancy techs and exotic design we focus on pure speed and acceleration so we can decide which better to buy, 450sr vs N500 drag race full top end
The 636 is a monster.. even I came from Ninja 650. The handling is amazing.. also when braking.. it feels composed, compared to the Ninja 650... My only complain is it's not a touring bike. But then again, my fault.. because I should have bought the Ninja 1000sx.
Soooo…what they’re saying is there’s really no reason for the 500 (450) to exist since we already have the 400. I actually like the fact that Kawasaki is going in so many different directions producing a wide range of bikes. But this one was a swing and a miss in my opinion.
swing and miss how? it gains torque over the 400 which means you can finally comfortably use the back seat ! also gains an impressive new infotainment system who cares about the small weight gain at that point. also remember the 500 is a bored out 400 engine meaning a tune will make more power also so if you're really upset at the weight just do that ! and it still perfectly fits the european A2 market and it will be exactly the same price as the 400 give or take a few hundred
@@Diontb Swing and a miss because the difference in any of those things isn’t enough to warrant the price difference or the split in sales from Kawasaki. You’ve now got the 400, 500, and 650 (not to mention the new inline 4 400). Anyone as a beginner is best served by the 400 (Almost universally recognized as the number 1 beginner bike). If moving up from there I certainly wouldn’t go to one with so little difference as the 500 but rather go at least to the 650. If Kawasaki doesn’t care about making money I suppose it would be fine for them to have a 400, 450, 500, 550, 600, 650, 700 etc but in my humble opinion it’s a questionable decision 🤷♂️.
@@someoneelse1i1i problem is with this comment 1. the 400 will be phased out 2. this bike IS the new 400 its the exact same bike bar the bored out engine and infotaiment you know that right? like exactly the same, most parts are the exact same. 3. this bike is for the beginner market hence why i said its for the A2 market, new A2 beginner riders will buy this and not the 400 now which i think is perfect as it adds the "future proofing" of the bike with the bigger engine and better infotainment so new riders wont feel compelled to change bikes so quickly. 4. the inline 4 400 is the zx4rr no? thats not even in the same world as this bike so im not sure why you'd mention it thats a full on monster lightweight trackbike for people who dont want the crazy power of bigger track bikes.
@@Diontb I can understand your point of view and from what I’ve read I also believe they’re going to drop the 400. In my opinion, however, it’s a mistake. The Kawasaki 400 is pushed as the perfect beginner bike by nearly every influencer (that actually knows anything) because it hits that “sweet spot” of power you can grow into while not too much to start on. They are essentially doing what so many car companies do on a regular basis - replacing a great product with one that doesn’t serve the purpose as well and is more expensive. And with the numbers on the 500 being what they are (horsepower is almost identical) I certainly don’t see that “won’t feel compelled to change bikes so quickly” being altered at all. Hey, I may be off the mark completely but considering what it costs Kawasaki to retool for a new line of cycles and the current “positive buzz” that the Ninja 400 enjoys it seems they could have simply updated the features and kept a winner. In my opinion this will cost them more than it will make them in the long term and we will see them moving away from this (or at least doing little to push this platform) in just a few years. Who knows, just my opinion.
It has changed. Engines are dynamic, a peak number of hp is not the only way to judge an engines character. I guess it is easy to miss that part of more torque, an earlier rpm to both peaks, and having imagination good at seeing potential with tuning
That is a total disappointment for Kawasaki. Clear marketing name. Conventional forks on a Sportbike in 2023? What a shame. CFMoto 450 SR is still better. It may have 39 nm for Torque, but it compensates it with a 50HP and a better hp-weight ratio. Don't get my wrong, "Kawa will always be Kawa", but they are clearly laughing on people's face with this Ninja "500". And of course, don't forget they'll blow its price a lot just for 50cc more. 450 SR still takes the lead. More quality and features, for less money; amazing reliable engine, not a lot of issues for being a "Chinese bike", and it's also a high gamma/premium bike.
They should have decreased the displacement, and give it an even higher revving engine for an even sportier feeling, the abomination they call the Ninja 500 is just a Touring bike with a sporty look, not what i buy a Ninja for
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It should actually be called "Ninja 450" 😅
Naming a 471cc engine a 500 (CBR500R) might be a bit of a stretch, but calling a 451cc engine a 500 seems too far, doesn't it?😅
agreed 👍
@@SecondGearYT Exactly bro 🤜
@@SecondGearYTexactly
how old are u 5?
Kawi should have made it a TRUE 500 , not a 450 in sheep's clothing.
I love the analog tachometer in the 400. These all digital displays are boring. Nevertheless, I still prefer the 400. It seems like they are just trying to push something new instead of evolving the bike like when the 250R became 300, and then 400. Those were justified full transformations.
Also hard to read at a glance when flying around road r track. Analog you know at glance where needle is where you are at rpm or very close. many racers in the day taped off ll but the area where needle is between say 5 and 10 grand where power is. varies on bike and power band but if needle is visible you are in power range if not you to low or high down shift or upshift at a glance you know. On my bike if needle is at 12 o clock to about 2 o clock it is in perfect range at a glance at speed I know. But after so many years riding I can feel the rpm in my hands and but pretty damn accurate and sound also.
Second Gear makes me buy both of them because of their badass editing skills, it was hella entertaining, 10/10 vid
I'm a complete beginner at this biking stuff and I'm already in love with it from how well this video explained everything
Basically an update of Ninja 400 on Euro 5 regulations I guess. But my biggest gripe is the swingarm. It does the job but compared to it's rivals, it looks the most basic.
i think the same, this ninja was made for euro 5.5 regulation, also kawasaki built a basic machine because they have the another ninja 400 with 4 inline engine
It's just the 400's swingarm
@@LSB44446 exactly, they should have at least upgraded it.
Yeah, I think throwing on zx4rr's swing arm would make it look a lot better without jacking up the price too much.
That is the big question. PRICE. We need actual road test reviews ?
You stand there looking at them ready to choose. Hmm ..
The engine behavior and personality are different but IT is basically the same bike.
sO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MAP IT?
The Ninja 400 is a fantastic machine.
Calling it a Kawasaki 500 kind of pisses me off. It is nothing like the Legendary 500 and I should know. And what about insurance. Are they going to ding you for imaginary CC's"
@@SecondGearYT
Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for
Great comparison of these two bikes. The 500 with 451 cc vs 399 in the 400. It's true that there is a 650, and I agree it could've been called a Ninja 450 to be more accurate. Thanks!
Damn the new bike is pretty nice, its an awesome year to get into bikes
Ninja 500 looks really cool, the very least Kawasaki tried to keep up with the competition, but the front shocks and swing arm really stick out like a sore thumb on how they cut cost for this bike.
They didn't change front shocks because it would have added weight.
Think I’ll keep the 2018 Ninja 400 and my old Vulcan 500. My Vulcan 500 parallel twin is surprisingly peppy for old technology and non fuel injection.. and being heavier than the Ninja 400. I enjoy riding them both but the Vulcan is my go to bike.
Good comparison. Grunt vs Go.
Superb video god bless you brother
this video is so good thank you
So good that what? So good that half of the comments don't catch the misinformation and horrible ai voiceover?
Possible start for Kawasaki to release a Ninja 700 with 270 degree engine and USD forks?
Ur videos are very informative
Not if you know the truth
Hope the USA version is making at least 50bhp. As far as weight, installing after market pipe should get the weight down 10lbs and increase power delivery.
Information so clear sub!!!😊
Yea misinformation
Wow great video and editing ❤
Except for misinformation like upside down forks, and the horrible ai voiceover.
new headlight immediately puts it back on the table for me 😩😩😩
Do you mean theyre good or bad? English not my 1st language
@@stfu6397 'back on the table' just means im thinking about it again, i like the new design ^^
Can’t wait for the 500
I might get one i like 👍
If you insist on a parallel twin at least make it a 270 firing order…
Even CF Moto got that memo
For small displacement engines 180 degrees is better, since it can rev more without increasing vibrations
@@joaoahwouldn’t a smaller engine have less inertia to begin with??? 🤔 anyways… Small displacement 180 twins are plain and lack character… much like a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine 😂 Kawasaki brining back a screaming small displacement inline 4 is brilliant!!!
Aprilia RS 457 seems much more tempting then this although reliability is still the big question on aprilia
I am worried that the engine will loose some of its fun revy nature with the longer stroke as that was the thing that stood out to me on the 400... We shall see - ex 2018 Ninja 400 KRT owner
It has a bigger rear sprocket, so that should keep the fun level up.
I was a very lightweight rider on my '72 500, 2 stroke . Raising the gear ratio way up was a major improvement! It was capable of 140 MPH (on the speedo) with a strong tail wind but don't do that too often. Not great handling. That bike was literally insane! I suspect the power and max torque must have aligned. @@lovelessissimo
@@lovelessissimowhat exactly does having a bigger rear sprocket do? I used to have a 2019 Ninja 400 and loved that bike.
@vtecninja6363 it makes the engine more lively, at the cost of top speed. It will rev faster, getting to redline at a lower speed. Many bikes have the issue of being geared too high, because its good for emissions and fuel efficiency, but the acceleration suffers.
It's one of the huge benefits of having a chain versus a driveshaft. If you make the front sprocket smaller, it has the same effect. Your 400 doesn't need anything like that, though. It's a great engine and setup. I ride a z900 and it's great in the same way.
Excelent video!
The Ninja 400 had 45hp in Europe due to A2 licence, but not due to maximum power but due to power to weight ratio of 0.2kW/kg max, getting:
168kg * 0.2kW/kg * 1.34hp/kW = 45hp
The Ninja 500 will also be limitted first by the power to weight ratio:
172kg * 0.2kW/kg * 1.34hp/kW = 46.1hp
So I would expect the Ninja 500 to have 46.1hp.
So both bikes should have the same maximum allowed power to weight ratio of 0.2kW/kg, else Kawasaki is stupid.
it's so minor I doubt you would feel a tangible difference especially with the bit of extra torque it provides, and it might also mean the engine responds better to modding overall.
expect is 58HP
It needs that just for it's name.@@RitmodeGigante
@@davidmacphee3549 WTF?
I was trying to figure out what i meant myself.
The original two stroke 500 is Legendary! They were too fast actually for some reason and were later detuned to about 58 HP.
2 strokes have far less parts up top and probable rev up faster. 60 horse power today, seems like nothing. Hitting the power band on the old 500 was like touching a hot burner! OUCH! Wheelies at 90 mph. WTF.
That reminds me.
There was a famous book and movie called Fahrenheit 451 (the burning point of paper).. A good reason this new bike should be called Ninja 451. Sounds HOT!!!
@@RitmodeGigante
it looks like cf moto and aprilia have the upper hand with the 270 degree crank
I love your videos man, they help me to make better decisions 🙇🏻 Please can you make a video comparing the ninja 500 with the zx4rr? 🙏🏼 I would like to hear your opinion about it
Well in this video he said the 500 has upside forks, and it doesn't. The 400rr does. The poster of this video used an ai voiceover, and got information wrong. Why would you like to hear more of "their" opinion?
I would get one in a heartbeat if they made the rear a180.
Is it the same exhaust???
You should make CBR500R vs Ninja 500 vs RS457
Somehow I love analog dash on ninja 400
The Ninja 400 dash was really 👍
The Cf moto 450ss really made kawasaki release a 500cc bike. Its hilarious.
The best part is CFMoto scared Kawi so bad they had to add 2cc over the CF and call it a 500. LMAO!
@@Ryan_H22 cfmoto is still better. Waste of money on kawasakis part.
@@WiltedRaven2 Yeah, I'm laughing at Kawasaki on this one, and disappointed in them at the same time. If they wanted to go after the 450cc market fine but at least be honest about it.
@@Ryan_H22 100%😂. They did not even try to compete. They just threw this half assed so called 500cc bike out there for no reason.
@@WiltedRaven2 FR! Add some stroke to pick up a few CC's and by nature it gains some torque. Big deal. 🙄 Even Aprilia is straight up with their 457 which I find kinda funny because if Kawai can call this a 500 Aprilia sure could too! 🤣
Please compared the ninja 500 to cf moto450ss. I think the 450ss is better and make more power?
Will Ninja 400 discontinue after the launch of Ninja 500?
Screw that! The Ninja 400 is fantastic!
50 more cc and all the tech on the se ✅
So what’s extra on the 40th anniversary besides paint??
I always thought it was a bit of overkill to make a ninja 125 , ninja 250, ninja 300, ninja 400, ninja 500, ninja 650, ninja zx6r, ninja 900, I mean the list goes on and on.
Alright
Can you compare a 450Sr and Ninja 500 🙂
450 Ninja 🥷 😂
There is a 650. Why not name this 450? You can't use the excuse that it is to keep the same naming
will it be the new beginner bike of kawasaki? are they gonna phase out the ninja 400?
Between this the 650 and the zx4rr its like they are trying to get rid of the 400 lmao. The problem is that they overprice these bikes and they dont provide enough value to make the 400 obsolete or too warrant spending the same amount of money that you could use to buy a 636
I think that the Z500 would be real "new" motorcycle if it would have at least an inversed fork with better brakes, but the motorcycle is basically just "better", but it is not like "wow" because it has been since 2018, almost 6 years and they haven't done that, a bit frustrating
Ninja 400 is my dream bike from past 3 years. I'm much upset with the launch of Ninja 500. I've a doubt... Will kawasaki discontinue the Ninja 400 after the launch of Ninja 500? This should not discontinue..new Ninja 500 has shitty looks.. Ninja 400 looks so awesome
Grab a new '23 400 now or pick up a nice used one.
@@Ryan_H22 hm.. Actually.Thank you
Idc anyone say, 400 is a great bike. Simple, cheap, so much fun to ride, been dailying it for about a month now put little over 1000miles it’s still fun lil speed rocket, it kind of reminds me of Toyota 86, it’s not a fast bike but it’s a bike that teach you how to ride well. I love flicking mine
@@Alexkasai Exactly right! Awesome little bike. Love mine! Super fun to toss around on back roads and just out cruising around and easily has enough power for the highway, at least around me. Sits comfortably at 80+ MPH and still has reserve to pass.
@@Alexkasaimy son bought a brand new Ninja 400 in 2018. Rode it very little and decided he’d rather have a new CBR600RR instead. The dealer only offered him 3k trade in for the Ninja 400 that he had recently bought brand new from them and I laughed and said “y’all can s**T and fall back in it.” Then my wife and I gave our son 3500 for the Ninja 400 right in front of them and rode it home. Then went to a different dealership and he bought a new CBR600RR there. I love the little Ninja 400. I also have a Vulcan 500 that’s a parallel twin too. I enjoy riding them both but the Vulcan is my go to bike if I know I will be riding any distance. It’s a lot more comfortable and even though it’s a hundred plus pounds heavier it still performs almost as well as the Ninja 400. Except for corners, it doesn’t corner as well as the Ninja for sure. But in a straight line the 400 can’t get away from my old carbureted 500 Vulcan.
How is this compared to Honda CBR500r?
Being called 500 and a more city friendly approach will make it compete with CBR500R, and this can't compete against that
New buyer here, beginner, should I get the 400 or 500?
You should buy a used something else and form your own opinion after gaining some experience, and only then buying new. I promise you won't have to ask, if you do this. You also will greatly increase your chances of not messing up a factory bike
The 500 reminds me of my old gpz500s, if this bike is as much fun to ride it will sell well as the ninja 500 looks ace.
I agree seams like a gpz500s with a modern facelift and modern tech.
Ninja400HG has keyless feture and 500 in its name is they way they made their product sound better because of the larger engine like CBR500 has 471cc at least it's above 450cc
I think they would have been better off putting this engine in the Versys 300 and upgrading some of the suspension for a Versys 450.
Does this mean that Ninja 400 is discontinued? I live in a country where my license is split into 3: up to 200cc, up to 400cc and unlimited cc.
really saddens me as I only got the license for up to 400cc... no more ninja 400 means i gotta wait for Kawasaki to eventually make an electric equivalent.
RIP Ninja 400, just like the Versys 300. hopefully I can see a Versys or Ninja EV for 400cc and lower displacements
Top speed sir
115 MPH is the average reported top speed for the 400 but depends on rider weight and conditions.
It is a 'small' bike so it can really vary. (241 KM)
@@davidmacphee3549 500 ninja not 400,
I loved the evolution of the Ninja 400 and reading all the comments. A thrilling machine without all the Speeding tickets.
It's an Absolute Rush. Look at my little picture to the left up there.
Now that's a REAL 500! That's why I feel so offended. Just call it a 451 and be done with all the name calling. Apples and Oranges. It's not a 500 Kawasaki. Pretender to the throne?
Jeezsus Man! I know full well that the very Popular Ninja 4oo is a much better overall Bike than mine now but that was a different time, a different era. No showroom Car could beat it.@@rolanddiaz1974 NONE! Fasted thing on the street.
Tap on the shoulder, Did you see the Blue 750 Bud? Yeah, I know. That's crazy. People will die.
What about Ninja 500 VS CBR 500?
Need to increase the tire size. The 110/150 is perfect for the 400, but is still a eyesore, it will look much worse on a bigger 500.
Well, all you have to do when it's time to replace the tires, go up a size, it's not an issue!
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Hoping we get to see duke 890 vs the new 990! 🙏
Why? The ninja has always been an entry level bike, 300 was fine, maybe even 400 but 500 makes it a full on midsize bike that is completely different than the model its always been. At least yamaha has the common sense to stop at 320 with the R3. Instead of making this engine bigger put the 400cc in the versys x, like every one has wanted for years. Literally the only way this make any sense is if they are making a new ninja 350 too.
Interesting point. Back in the 1990s to 2009, the older Kawasaki 500R had 49hp and 30 ft lbs torque back then, weighing about 370 lbs, before the Ninja 650 replaced it. It was far enough from the classic Ninja 250Rs and 2008 model, before those bumped up briefly to 300cc and now 400cc. Kawasaki, if they're replacing the Ninja 400 with this "500" 451cc motorcycle, are completely moving away from the smaller class of the past as an option in the US anyway. Having learned and enjoy the 250Rs for many years, those taught me discipline with riding.
There were times I would've gotten into danger/trouble if I had a faster bike while learning, so I agree it's important to offer smaller displacement bikes. Plus I used to take my Ninja 250R onto the freeways all the time, no issues (top speed downhill was 110mph) other than slower passing compared to my newer Ninja 650. So timing was important when passing on a 250R, and avoiding going up hills if passing, where it wouldn't accelerate very much. Still a fun, capable bike even at 250cc's.
Speaking of, is the ninja 450 better than the 450ss?
The American Version of the 500 is listed with 51 HP at 10k rpm
Ibam wondering Kawasaki ninja has placed its price lower than 400 in India ..they need to fix this issue .it seems they are so confused
It will be interesting to see if they bring out a Versy 450, sorry 500, as the Versy 300 is getting a bit out dated now. I have a 2023 Z400 and will keep this as there isn't enough improvements on this model and I agree with all the other comments that is should be called a 450.
If there was a performance difference id care, but there isnt. Id prefer the analog tac too. The 500 looks vetter, but the 400 is the way im going
Umm starting to think they are coming out with a 500RR to go after the CFMoto 500
Who's strong bro 450sr or ninja 400? Top speed and power?
450sr power wise by a bit, not sure about top speed
The new keyless shit is gonna be hackable af
Not as hackable as old "keyed" locks. They are hackable without complicated electronics
The main market for the 400 is japan because their medium bike license is limited to 400cc
In the real world or the track the difference between these bikes will be determined by the pilot not the bike, they are just too similar - if you have a current model 400 keep it, if you are a new buyer or upgrading from a ninja 300 then go for the 500 for sure!
How is sitting position for ninja 500 too upright or too lean?
same as the 400
They could've atleast upgraded the fork,the SE tft display is not worth it.
If MSRP is no more than $7500 USD I’ll get one
Only the SE gets the upgraded TFT display? c'mon Kawasaki, Other makers are fitting it as standard. and it really should be a 450 Ninja.
Agree.....every KTM 390 gets a TFT....
TFT is a shit
I'm between getting this 500 or the Aprilla
I hope they put the same upside down fork as the r3 and the same swing arm as the r3
Those aren't upside down. Damn. Are you blind?
@@josephweaver9579 Learn to read and understand
In terms with power to weight ratio,it is better to get the 400 than the 500.
N400 fits into racing classes whereas 451 is going to cause headaches in the homologation process. I'm not convinced.
Ok let's settle, in oder to prove cfmoto vs kawasaki, we need a rematch actual shoot out who is the best in the King of speed of 500cc inline 2 category regardless of fancy techs and exotic design we focus on pure speed and acceleration so we can decide which better to buy, 450sr vs N500 drag race full top end
Me on my '24 hayabusa watching these videos and actually liking them :|
So nothing added really, what am I paying for? Just for the updated dashboard and keyless entry?
The engine is different... I guess it would be easy to miss that. Just like the forks not being USD
Release when?
Trying to compete with cfmoto?
if u are wondering ninj400 phase out is because of 450sr cfmoto the new king thats y the kawasaki upgraded
Upgrade to same 450cc
Love my 400 way to much....now if it was a 636 id definitely consider moving up to that but not to a 500 only
The 636 is a monster.. even I came from Ninja 650. The handling is amazing.. also when braking.. it feels composed, compared to the Ninja 650... My only complain is it's not a touring bike. But then again, my fault.. because I should have bought the Ninja 1000sx.
One question
Why ❓
Show!
They're fighting with cfMoto 450 in the CF Moto 450 still wins oh my God that's so embarrassing
Win what? Top speed? Acceleration?
Kawasaki really missed the mark here, they should have made it 499cc and 270* crank
Think I’d still take the CF Moto 450
You cannot sell to the wise and the young cannot afford it.
All manufacturers: cars motorcycles and bicycles have lost their way.
By design
I think they have actually found their "way".. why else would they have made it? Oh yea, you didn't listen with an open mind.
I just bought the 500 (US), My MSO says 51.7 HP!!!!!!!😀
Soooo…what they’re saying is there’s really no reason for the 500 (450) to exist since we already have the 400. I actually like the fact that Kawasaki is going in so many different directions producing a wide range of bikes. But this one was a swing and a miss in my opinion.
swing and miss how? it gains torque over the 400 which means you can finally comfortably use the back seat ! also gains an impressive new infotainment system who cares about the small weight gain at that point. also remember the 500 is a bored out 400 engine meaning a tune will make more power also so if you're really upset at the weight just do that ! and it still perfectly fits the european A2 market and it will be exactly the same price as the 400 give or take a few hundred
@@Diontb Swing and a miss because the difference in any of those things isn’t enough to warrant the price difference or the split in sales from Kawasaki. You’ve now got the 400, 500, and 650 (not to mention the new inline 4 400). Anyone as a beginner is best served by the 400 (Almost universally recognized as the number 1 beginner bike). If moving up from there I certainly wouldn’t go to one with so little difference as the 500 but rather go at least to the 650. If Kawasaki doesn’t care about making money I suppose it would be fine for them to have a 400, 450, 500, 550, 600, 650, 700 etc but in my humble opinion it’s a questionable decision 🤷♂️.
@@someoneelse1i1i problem is with this comment
1. the 400 will be phased out
2. this bike IS the new 400 its the exact same bike bar the bored out engine and infotaiment you know that right? like exactly the same, most parts are the exact same.
3. this bike is for the beginner market hence why i said its for the A2 market, new A2 beginner riders will buy this and not the 400 now which i think is perfect as it adds the "future proofing" of the bike with the bigger engine and better infotainment so new riders wont feel compelled to change bikes so quickly.
4. the inline 4 400 is the zx4rr no? thats not even in the same world as this bike so im not sure why you'd mention it thats a full on monster lightweight trackbike for people who dont want the crazy power of bigger track bikes.
@@Diontb I can understand your point of view and from what I’ve read I also believe they’re going to drop the 400. In my opinion, however, it’s a mistake. The Kawasaki 400 is pushed as the perfect beginner bike by nearly every influencer (that actually knows anything) because it hits that “sweet spot” of power you can grow into while not too much to start on. They are essentially doing what so many car companies do on a regular basis - replacing a great product with one that doesn’t serve the purpose as well and is more expensive. And with the numbers on the 500 being what they are (horsepower is almost identical) I certainly don’t see that “won’t feel compelled to change bikes so quickly” being altered at all. Hey, I may be off the mark completely but considering what it costs Kawasaki to retool for a new line of cycles and the current “positive buzz” that the Ninja 400 enjoys it seems they could have simply updated the features and kept a winner. In my opinion this will cost them more than it will make them in the long term and we will see them moving away from this (or at least doing little to push this platform) in just a few years. Who knows, just my opinion.
@@someoneelse1i1i emissions... you gotta open your ears man... its a new year and new regulations.
Sorry if it is clser to 450 cc than 500 it is ninja 450 not 500 if t was 476 cc or more then round up to 500 if not this is BS
Honestly, it disturbes me that the name says 500 but the engine is 450, really don't like that.
In the US the 500 is 49hp
The horsepower don’t change WTF
It has changed. Engines are dynamic, a peak number of hp is not the only way to judge an engines character. I guess it is easy to miss that part of more torque, an earlier rpm to both peaks, and having imagination good at seeing potential with tuning
That is a total disappointment for Kawasaki. Clear marketing name. Conventional forks on a Sportbike in 2023? What a shame. CFMoto 450 SR is still better. It may have 39 nm for Torque, but it compensates it with a 50HP and a better hp-weight ratio. Don't get my wrong, "Kawa will always be Kawa", but they are clearly laughing on people's face with this Ninja "500". And of course, don't forget they'll blow its price a lot just for 50cc more. 450 SR still takes the lead. More quality and features, for less money; amazing reliable engine, not a lot of issues for being a "Chinese bike", and it's also a high gamma/premium bike.
Top speed? Acceleration?
Kawasaki always better on track, not on paper
Hmm... seems like another update bike. Just like Honda did an update on its CBR650R. It's mostly about gadgets.
Writing for Aprilia RSV 457 to launch in India
It's much better than Kawasaki 500se at lower price
Due to its manufacture in India bike
Ninja500 topspeed 190
Ninja400
Topspeed 205+
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life
Facts!
Blasphemy! the flying spaghetti monster is the only way!
but still low top speed as compare to 450sr and 450sr now is superior in all aspects
China makes nothing that is superior… 😂
Ninja500: 250kpj bibehh...
One of the most disappointing bike this year, especially when you compare it with aprilia 457 or cfmoto 450sr
you forgot the ninja 400 with 4 inline engine exists
oh yeah, time will tell its not about brand its how you take care ediot@@no_name4080
and you for got to, 450sr is new coming 500sr inline 4 screamer to beat your zx4r@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
non-Japanese? but they are European base ediot@@no_name4080
@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 Sorry I mean in this year’s EICMA or model year 2024
They should have decreased the displacement, and give it an even higher revving engine for an even sportier feeling, the abomination they call the Ninja 500 is just a Touring bike with a sporty look, not what i buy a Ninja for
Performance won't be much different than the 400, I don't see the point.
Doesn't mean there aren't many valid points, just because you are blind. I bet you are incorrect.