Happy to have stumbled onto this video. I am set to buy the first SA-35 that becomes available. Or at least I was. Just what I need is another totally unreliable pistol, seriously, thank you guys!
I love BHSpringsolutions. They are honest to a fault and provide high quality parts and service. I called them once with questions about an older model I own with an internal extractor and spoke with Mark (I believe) for quite some time. If you want it straight regarding your, or any other, Hi-Power, these are the people to deal with. No taticool, rapid fire, heavy metal music showboating here. They show you the gun in all it's pieces and parts, their interoperability, weaknesses, and strengths - then proceed to show you how they improve it. As someone who is a big fan of the Hi-Power, I am watching the BHS assessments of the SA-35 closely to help me decide if it's worthwhile to buy one and make the recommended improvements. I trust them implicitly.
The current SA-35s are performing reliably well. The extraction problems have been fixed. My serial number has five digits. Don't like the fact, to sell their products, BH claim the pistol is not safe enough, so they changed out a couple of factory parts, with their BH parts. That's BS. The stock factory SA-35s are safe already. Nothing wrong with upgrading you pistol to look more attractive to the eye, but all their enhancements are not necessary.
This is exactly what I wanted to see thank you so much I am sticking with my Tisas it works better than this pistol. Garand thumb had the same problem.
Same here. Plus, with all I’ve sunk into mine, I’d need a VERY compelling reason to part with it. The SA-35 doesn’t appear up to the task of providing such a reason.
The only thing I had to do was replace the extractor when I initially got my tisas since then then it works flawlessly I have one failure to feed every 500 rounds or so its extremely accurate.
@@PaulG-oc2ct I turned mine into a project gun and ended up replacing every part except the ejector and the grip screws. It’s now got a C&S no bite hammer, fiber optic sights, a BHSS threaded barrel, Garthwaite trigger, front slide serrations, and even a picatinny rail. Has a nice 4lb trigger pull and it’s my favorite gun (and I own a couple 1911s).
You're the only one of over 15 review videos to have this problem. Usually ejection issues in EARLY models occurred after over 700 rounds. All videos of later models functioned through 1000 rounds.
Is the threaded barrel just a modern BHP modified for the additions of rhe sa 35? I really want a threaded barrel but still want the hollowpoint reliability
If I have a problem with a new firearm it will be sent back to the factory. I’ve had to do that a couple of times with reputable companies and have always had great results. This has always been my procedure even though for years I had an extremely well known gunsmith as a friend and next door neighbor and friend. His name was Bob Dunlap, known to most in the firearms world as Robert. Do not send a factory new weapon to anyone that is not authorized by said company for issues on a new weapon as any modifications may void the factory warranty. JMHO!
Thank you for your good faith effort testing a stock gun. Its performance was shocking and you were right to discontinue the test. This failure to extract seems to be an Achilles heel for the SA-35 that Springfield Armory needs to fix. I was wondering if the chamber dimensions are accurate too? Regardless this makes the BHP look bad, as my 93 MkIII has been faultless except for two occasions where I shot hundreds of dirty reloaded rounds without cleaning it.
Even the cheapest hi power I own...an FM Argentine Hi Power...is significantly better out of the box. FMs can be picked up for $500 to $600 all day every day. It's sad because Garand Thumb, BHSS, and a good amount of other RUclipsrs/bloggers have had the exact same issue with the SA-35. I was going to buy one, but I think I might just pick up another FM.
If it were unsafe, SA would not sell it. It's standard Browning Hi Power. BHSS is marketing their know-how, solid upgrade philosophy and demonstrating their own high standards.
@@RobWhittlestone I'm sure Springfield Amory lawyers would disagree with you. BHSS is stating SA is shipping a gun that's not safe and for "safety" buy our product.
@@NDSMD No, not quite. Mark has spoken of "increased margins of safety" in the event of a muzzle drop but he didn't say the stock configuration was "unsafe."
Only if you're willing to pay an extra $300 or so. Not many are willing to pay that much. SA is in the business of making guns for the masses not the small high end market.
What did you do about the extractor problem on the new SA-35? Just last week I had tate type of extraction problem on my old Argentine Hi-Power. I replaced the extractor and extractor spring and it runs flawlessly now. I'm surprised that Springfield didn't catch the problem before shipping.
So my FM Detective Hi Power went through their Masterpiece Maker Process this Fall. Every part except for the slide and frame was replaced, metal work done, and refinishing. Basically has every upgrade possible. Total cost was around $1200-1300...don't remember an exact figure. Probably that same ball park for the SA-35
Their kit is $99 on gunboker. Obviously the bluing/grips are extra. My understanding is Springfield has addressed these issues. Just picked mine up (for msrp👍) and may order the kit. Not sure I want to burn through 300+ rounds in order to see if it has problems so I'll probably just order the kit and install when/if it needs it. Nice to have the option.
I have seen several reviews as of late and I am less than impressed! Jesus, from finishing issues to FTE. Even at $400, I’d expect better. People have been paying North of $1k and it sounds like a gamble. I am waiting to see how EAA’s offering is. They told me mid month of December. SA needs to tighten up!
Did you lube the gun? Maybe try that. I know you have the skill to do it and a company behind it but for your average Joe it's probably not necessary to detail strip and start replacing parts. When mine gets here this week I'm going to lube it well and run it hard. I'm willing to bet that will resolve any and all issues while keeping it in factory configuration and not voiding the warranty.
It would be interesting to see some measurements of the case in addition to chronograph results of the velocity... I'd also like to see close up photos of the extractor. If it were my gun (I have not found one yet) I think I'd drop an FN extractor in the gun and see if that fixed the problem...
More of these reviews I see the less I want one from SA. That coupled with their 2A misstep does not inspire any confidence to buy ANYTHING they make! Sorry fanboys! Kinda like Benchmade F them too
Wow...could it be that you made two modifications to a brand new gun before firing it? Guy’s stance and has to adjust his grip after every shot, could that be an issue? Snake oil salesmen.
Happy to have stumbled onto this video. I am set to buy the first SA-35 that becomes available. Or at least I was. Just what I need is another totally unreliable pistol, seriously, thank you guys!
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I love BHSpringsolutions. They are honest to a fault and provide high quality parts and service. I called them once with questions about an older model I own with an internal extractor and spoke with Mark (I believe) for quite some time. If you want it straight regarding your, or any other, Hi-Power, these are the people to deal with. No taticool, rapid fire, heavy metal music showboating here. They show you the gun in all it's pieces and parts, their interoperability, weaknesses, and strengths - then proceed to show you how they improve it.
As someone who is a big fan of the Hi-Power, I am watching the BHS assessments of the SA-35 closely to help me decide if it's worthwhile to buy one and make the recommended improvements. I trust them implicitly.
The current SA-35s are performing reliably well. The extraction problems have been fixed. My serial number has five digits. Don't like the fact, to sell their products, BH claim the pistol is not safe enough, so they changed out a couple of factory parts, with their BH parts. That's BS. The stock factory SA-35s are safe already. Nothing wrong with upgrading you pistol to look more attractive to the eye, but all their enhancements are not necessary.
Thanks for showing us that SA dropped another turd on the US market.
This is exactly what I wanted to see thank you so much I am sticking with my Tisas it works better than this pistol. Garand thumb had the same problem.
Same here. Plus, with all I’ve sunk into mine, I’d need a VERY compelling reason to part with it. The SA-35 doesn’t appear up to the task of providing such a reason.
The only thing I had to do was replace the extractor when I initially got my tisas since then then it works flawlessly I have one failure to feed every 500 rounds or so its extremely accurate.
@@PaulG-oc2ct I turned mine into a project gun and ended up replacing every part except the ejector and the grip screws. It’s now got a C&S no bite hammer, fiber optic sights, a BHSS threaded barrel, Garthwaite trigger, front slide serrations, and even a picatinny rail. Has a nice 4lb trigger pull and it’s my favorite gun (and I own a couple 1911s).
Thats pretty cool. I will upgrade mine little by little. Waiting on the reviews of the new Girsan mpc 35
@@DLordSadow where’d you find the trigger
You're the only one of over 15 review videos to have this problem. Usually ejection issues in EARLY models occurred after over 700 rounds. All videos of later models functioned through 1000 rounds.
I love the video series on the SA-35. The refinish is stunning.
Remarkable work Mark but also its no surprise on the quality and workmanship you all do at BHSpring.
Is the threaded barrel just a modern BHP modified for the additions of rhe sa 35? I really want a threaded barrel but still want the hollowpoint reliability
That completed one is lovely. I really love the final blueing job y'all did on it.
Garand Thumb had same extraction issue. It needs to work through some teeth cutting issues. GT spoke highly of your work and I agree.
I'm curious how a Girsan MCP35 from EAA corp would stack up to the Springfield SA-35 since they said their guns would do better for cheaper
How much did it cost to do all the things you did to the sa 35 on the right ?
No disrespect to Dave but please get him to a Tactical pistol class.
If I have a problem with a new firearm it will be sent back to the factory. I’ve had to do that a couple of times with reputable companies and have always had great results. This has always been my procedure even though for years I had an extremely well known gunsmith as a friend and next door neighbor and friend. His name was Bob Dunlap, known to most in the firearms world as Robert.
Do not send a factory new weapon to anyone that is not authorized by said company for issues on a new weapon as any modifications may void the factory warranty. JMHO!
Geez, and I was thinking of sending out my 1972 Hi-Power for a failure to eject about every 100 rnds.
Thank you for your good faith effort testing a stock gun. Its performance was shocking and you were right to discontinue the test. This failure to extract seems to be an Achilles heel for the SA-35 that Springfield Armory needs to fix. I was wondering if the chamber dimensions are accurate too? Regardless this makes the BHP look bad, as my 93 MkIII has been faultless except for two occasions where I shot hundreds of dirty reloaded rounds without cleaning it.
Even the cheapest hi power I own...an FM Argentine Hi Power...is significantly better out of the box. FMs can be picked up for $500 to $600 all day every day. It's sad because Garand Thumb, BHSS, and a good amount of other RUclipsrs/bloggers have had the exact same issue with the SA-35. I was going to buy one, but I think I might just pick up another FM.
So, are you saying that you believe the stock SA-85 is unsafe to fire without swapping in your BHSS sear lever and firing pin spring?
If it were unsafe, SA would not sell it. It's standard Browning Hi Power. BHSS is marketing their know-how, solid upgrade philosophy and demonstrating their own high standards.
@@RobWhittlestone I'm sure Springfield Amory lawyers would disagree with you. BHSS is stating SA is shipping a gun that's not safe and for "safety" buy our product.
@@NDSMD No, not quite. Mark has spoken of "increased margins of safety" in the event of a muzzle drop but he didn't say the stock configuration was "unsafe."
@@stevepalincsar4273 watch the whole series again
@@NDSMD Sorry, once was enough...
Now this is excellent. A stock gun compared to the same gun that’s been ‘smithed
The finish it should have had from the factory
Only if you're willing to pay an extra $300 or so. Not many are willing to pay that much. SA is in the business of making guns for the masses not the small high end market.
What did you do about the extractor problem on the new SA-35? Just last week I had tate type of extraction problem on my old Argentine Hi-Power. I replaced the extractor and extractor spring and it runs flawlessly now. I'm surprised that Springfield didn't catch the problem before shipping.
Que bonitas pistolas me gustan
Still waiting to get mine. What’s it cost to have it worked over?
So my FM Detective Hi Power went through their Masterpiece Maker Process this Fall. Every part except for the slide and frame was replaced, metal work done, and refinishing. Basically has every upgrade possible. Total cost was around $1200-1300...don't remember an exact figure. Probably that same ball park for the SA-35
Their kit is $99 on gunboker. Obviously the bluing/grips are extra.
My understanding is Springfield has addressed these issues.
Just picked mine up (for msrp👍) and may order the kit. Not sure I want to burn through 300+ rounds in order to see if it has problems so I'll probably just order the kit and install when/if it needs it. Nice to have the option.
Can just the upper be sent in for work?
Extractor work , etc
Man, that first "test" gun in refinished mode is just beautiful! Nice job, guys! You turned that one into a Cadillac...
I would NOT be a happy with that many FTE's on a brand new gun. Unacceptable.
The finish was beautiful. I feel I could not shoot it. I prefer a Battle Worn look as I would shoot it quite a bit
It might not be the extractor! My Argentine FM Hi Power will fire and extract without an extractor installed. Ask me how I know...
How you know?
I have seen several reviews as of late and I am less than impressed! Jesus, from finishing issues to FTE. Even at $400, I’d expect better. People have been paying North of $1k and it sounds like a gamble. I am waiting to see how EAA’s offering is. They told me mid month of December. SA needs to tighten up!
Where are you finding it for 400?!?! Cheapest I saw brand new is 455 with tax and shipping
Did you lube the gun? Maybe try that. I know you have the skill to do it and a company behind it but for your average Joe it's probably not necessary to detail strip and start replacing parts.
When mine gets here this week I'm going to lube it well and run it hard. I'm willing to bet that will resolve any and all issues while keeping it in factory configuration and not voiding the warranty.
It would be interesting to see some measurements of the case in addition to chronograph results of the velocity... I'd also like to see close up photos of the extractor. If it were my gun (I have not found one yet) I think I'd drop an FN extractor in the gun and see if that fixed the problem...
@Hanlon Kitto I''d definitely be interested in reading about how that works out.
@@robbymc4483 Based on the first one, the FN extractor wouldn't have fit until they dealt with the "snaggle tooth" issue in the extractor slot.
the effect that the bullets had on the targets, it looks to me that they were different rounds used in the different guns.
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I have that exact table.
What pistols do these drum mags fit??????????????
These drum mags are for the day of the only-one-mag-ban 😂😂
So far all the tests from different testers shows extraction problems with the SA-35. Glad to see these videos. Won’t buy one.
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Your shooting partner is standing funny you need to fix his shooting stance .
Odd stance, right handed with left foot forward… good shooting though !
More of these reviews I see the less I want one from SA. That coupled with their 2A misstep does not inspire any confidence to buy ANYTHING they make! Sorry fanboys! Kinda like Benchmade F them too
Wow...could it be that you made two modifications to a brand new gun before firing it? Guy’s stance and has to adjust his grip after every shot, could that be an issue? Snake oil salesmen.
You're welcome to take a look at session 1. This might clarify the situation for you... Thank you for the comment though!