Serial Killer Rodney Alcala was on a TV show in the 1970's The Dating Game I believe & he won but he creeped out the woman so much she refused to go on the date with him. She had GREAT instincts!!! This guy going on TV reminds me of that!
Yeah! I watched that documentary/episode and they even showed a clip from the Dating Game Tv show where he appeared ! Pretty unbelievable knowing what we know now and looking back on it with hindsight
I think you're mistaken in calling him a farmer- he lived on the same council housing estate as me (and at the same time). He was just a casual farm worker or just as often unemployed. His son really hated him, his wife was terrified of him- both with good reason. My brother in law was interrogated after the Scoveston Manor killings as he lived nearby and had a firearms license. The police were clueless for a long time, despite Cooper's well known criminality and violent tendencies. His family still suffers the stigma of his monstrous crimes. They are good people. It is him alone that bears responsibility for his actions. He made his family live in real fear for decades. I suspect they will never find peace until he dies and there is absolutely no way he could be released and return to hurt them or others any more.
Thank you Mr Llewellyn, your personal knowledge of Cooper and his family gives a fascinating insight. I've no doubt that his family were also very much his victims and sadly are still suffering the stigma of his crimes. Comments on here such as"the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" shows how judgemental people can be, and how wrong..
Thanks for your more of an insider story. However ..... his family enabled him to keep going. And killing. They bear a huge part of the responsibility. They could have put an end to his crime spree. Period!
Until the people who helps these criminals are held to account for lying and providing false testimony there will be no change. Those that lie should be charged as accessories to any crimes committed after they lied.
Lying to the cops is not the same as giving a false testimony, but I’d be surprised if there weren’t a charge for that in the UK like there is in the USA. You also have to consider that be abused his family, he stuck a shotgun in his own child’s mouth, I guarantee that someone would be hurt soon after they told the truth about his whereabouts.
@@bigwendigo2253 Exactly, people have no idea how police procedure works. You don't just call the police on somebody and they immediately go away forever lol
The alibis remind me of Peter Sutcliff's wife and once his mother, alibiing him over and over. The first one included his mother saying he was at the house warming party They criticized the police for believing family members then, but they still did it here. If authorities started seriously prosecuting people for giving false alibis, it would stop a lot of people.
Absolutely appalling the police don't prosecute families' members for giving false alibis! That's obstruction of justice ~ purposefully impeding an investigation ~ those ARE crimes!
I agree that people who have given a false alibi should be prosecuted. Even if they were scared to talk to the police while the suspect was right there next to them, they could have secretly contacted the police later.
@@baconneggs1234 The real guilty person probably murdered 6 more people over the years. He died of old age in 2015. I know his name and a huge amount of other facts, but cannot say stuff in public as Cooper has an appeal being compiled right now. The son, Adrian , had many other agendas.
@@Hensen1954 Unfortunately i was a little suspicious just didnt make sense It felt like the police just wanted closure and they are well known for planting evidence and other items on people they want to blame or frame...believe me ive had my tangle with them...
The Welsh police were a great help to him over the years, as was his family. That said, of course they gave him an alibi, after what he did to his son. They must have been terrified.
For me, I like to learn how they progressed into their psychosis, and/or narcissism. Usually, it starts with childhood abuse, neglect, or trauma. I yell at the screen that it's just awful to mistreat children. It just breaks my heart, and I wish the psychopaths were able to get help before they lost control.
@@sheristewart3940 just the typical female herd and care instinct? How about the loads of other people experiencing tough conditions, without murdering? Trivial evil exists, never mind how much naive women needs something to nurse and manage 😉 Guess which sex are most represented in Psychiatry..
I dont know, for me its a step up from mental health education and horror movies.. in the beginning i had nightmeirs watching these. It would really f me up and im used to some strong horror. Its totally different and more scary when its real. Those poor victims. I cant imagine. It is very interesting how these monsters are made nature nurture. As long as the victims are respected and People learn how to prevent and recognise red flags i guess its ok. This one was reported well. Some muricans their sensationalising walks a thin line. I feel dirty watching those. Interrogations are very intreging too.
@Frank Skoda-Simmons You presume too much about someone you do not know a thing about, as is very often the case in these comment sections. You do not even know why I am against the death penalty, as I did not state my reasons. Also, you make claims that are evidently not true. There are many who lost someone as a result of murder, who are against the death penalty. You only need to do a bit of googling, or watch a few documentaries about the topic.
@Frank Skoda-Simmons Whoa back off with the lecture and sweeping statements Mr. Pedant. And the false good wishes: "I hope you won't learn it the hard way..." when you mean anything but. I believe that you DO hope Mr. Plosky learns it "the hard way". This is RUclips and ordinary people make Comments that, while sometimes inappropriate and maddening, have little value in the grand scheme of things. In short and in my opinion, you are wasting space.
For those of you against the death penalty , can you explain …is it because of religious reasons “thou shall not kill?” ..or do you feel that we are an advanced enough society that we should be able to function without it? Also, if you are against the death penalty then what do you think should be done to the people in our society that choose to kill? Just life imprisonment?
I remember hearing about him when I was a kid due to the media frenzy regarding his appearance on the massive game show Bullseye. At the time the show pulled in 15-20 million viewers, so many people saw him as a contestant but had no idea about his past, and what was yet to come.
And he seemed really quiet and humble even lowering his eyes when he got questions correct. Sometimes it's hard to understand that these people are human with human traits but have this monster inside but can appear quite normal. On Bullseye this was the case, lowering his eyes when he answered questions not seeming big headed.
Absolute twaddle. Poly-LIE-TIC-ians & their enforcers & collaborators commit horrendous crimes every day & get away with it cos the dumb public don't care.
England dialects are different in different areas, or if you speak US english- then the whole England english is differently pronounced indeed. Is it aluminum or aluminium? :D
All my years growing up in England and always loved Wales over all other areas in England such as I love North Carolina, Colorado springs and northern Georgia here in the states now, I never heard of John cooper at all. Wales is for sure a area one would least expect a serial killer being around. It's not like a big city or anything.
Ed Gein lived in a rural area and was a bit of a "loner," Jack the Ripper ( whoever he was ) Jeffery Dahmer and many others committed their crimes in major cities. It's not the landscape that makes the killer.
Because, if we take the example of the USA, it is well documented that the total cost generated by the lengthy process of putting someone to death far exceeds the cost of incarceration for life.
I know that here in the U.S. we are still finding people who were discovered to be innocent of the crime they were initially found guilty of. Some of them even falsely confessed. I would rather we let all the guilty live until natural death than put even one innocent person to death. But I’m aware that I’m in the minority on that.
@@ginalove3115 However..the majority of people convicted..are guilty! and now with DNA testing..i would say there is a 100% chance that. there is no chance of a wrong conviction.
I'm just curious, did a stray cat cough up the decaying mouse playing the part of Cooper's mustache, or did the production staff just glue a dirty carpet remnant to the actor's face and call it good? Even with the extreme close-ups it's hard for me to tell
If someone says "tHis iSn'T tHe TyPe oF pLaCe ThEsE tHiNgS HaPpEn!" one more time in one of these documentaries I'm gonna be the one going psycho. Seriously how do these people not get sick of their own cliches? This Yardley woman has like 5 lines. You could make one of those dolls of her where you pull a string and she says one of several lines ie. "It was all about power for him. His victims were just objects"
I’m just glad Emma kenny expert “psychologist” isn’t on here where she speaks on the victims and perpetrators behalf as to what they’re thinking wheras anyone with the ability to construct their own theories will see she’s wrong 99% if the time
Castrating doesnt stop rape, only removes risk of unwanted pregnancy significantly. Removal of their genitals and reproductive parts completely, to pee sitting seems more fitting. I mean if were talking barbaric punishments that is. Not that i have put much thought in that... 😶🌫️😏
@@distracted5767 ,if they cut it off and medical castration you can't get sexually aroused, but they can go to the Bible they so many believe in and do it that way!
@@tinamurray5610 what are you talking about. Castrating doesnt stop arousal. And what do religions have to do with anything. Thats Just ignorant and weird. We all know religions add to the abuse because that surpresses their nature rather than fix it. Also abuse is mostly about power and control rather than just the sexual aspect. Religion is a perfect tool to abuse for these preditors so that they dont have to take ownership for what they did. Religion also gives them direct acces to vulnerable People they can exploit. The last place they should be is near gullable people
He, actually, told the detectives, when they question him about the shorts, "these looks like my shorts but they are too short", and then they found out that his wife had shortened them and they found the DNA under the hem. I have seen this story in another documentary.
Totally wrong, the shorts were his sons, bought in America when the family went to visit Coopers sister, after they won Spot the ball. The shorts were never sold in UK or Europe. The documentaries, etc, are all just amusement for the viewers - nothing like the truth.
He's probably responsible for more than just these ones. There was a lady who was found dead in her bath that some people say it was a murder less than a mile away from him years before this
I arrested Peter Tobin about 18 months before his arrest for murder...he was belligerent and obnoxious towards me ..(this is not uncommon given the circumstances )..however when a wpc arrived he instantly became another person he was charismatic a real real charmer..he had the wpc believing I was the bad guy...I knew he was a psychopath
Tobin is bed ridden ( chained ) with cancer and hopefully in lots of pain……he doesn’t deserve pain relief! I would personally let him rot in agony if it was up to me!
Parasitic. We all know some like that. Often where youre so glad to escape and recover from.. But to do all those things.. you have to be some extra level of selfish and sociopathic. I wonder if he had some headinjuries rather than just the fact he won big once. He already had his agression prior to winning at gambling. So ok maybe that was the trigger to go on a criminal path but thats def not the cause of his deeper cruel selfish issues
@@TariAkpodiete Yep. She picked him, then cancelled the date because, as you said, she didn't like his creepy vibe. Smart young lady, listened to her spider senses.
some of the things these "experts" say are just hilarious. like saying a rural community is not where something like this hapens.dafuq...that's the perfect setting. few police, few cctv, few or no witnesses...simple logic...it's like alaska.in alaska, there are more missing people than people living there
This guy reminds me a bit of Rodney Alcala (the scumbag who was on The Dating Game) in that he couldn't help himself. He wanted fame and notoriety and like Alcala, he didn't care how he got them.
I take a very first look at that pseudo Cooper and immediatly tell myself that he'd portray a very convincing Stalin indeed... That feeling never left me, may I add. Too bad for him, would have made him really famous!
Even though his family contributed to the murders of the elderly couple and the attack on teenagers and the teacher, for giving him an alibi. It looks like they had no choice , the police would have released him until any DNA was linked to him. In the meantime he would have blown his family members heads off.
It's astounding how many people in the comments claim to have known this person, and right along side of a lot of comments blaming those who knew him for not turning him in sooner. All unproven of course... Smfh sad...
Cooper will find out just how hot Hell is, You think your notes now Cooper you’ll be insanely screaming for eternity there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
The cooment about killers not liking t.v is kinda bunk. There are several examples of killers being on t.v, Edward Edwards, Ted Bundy, Manson, chameleon killer loved the spotlight of the tv cameras
Puerto Rico's a COMMONWEALTH only, of the United States of America. Puerto Rico has it's own government completely separate from the United States of America's government. If Puerto Rico were United States of America territory, we would eliminate the ubiquitous corruption rampant in Puerto Rico.
@@martenkrueger8647 The sacks under the eye could be an indicator of kidney problems. I was trying to be sarcastic but warned at the same time. It could also be to a lot of other things like collagen and sleep patterns or lack of nutrients and other diseases. But it could be. Are you ok?
"Absolutely Absolutely Absolutely Absolutely". I suggest to the female co-host that she return to grade school in order to sound more educated. How about you finish Grade 9? By then you will surely have expanded your vocabulary 🤭🤪🤷
Is anybody else asking themselves why a pair of shorts on a father has the daughters DNA in any case I can't tell you that I had a granddaughter and I have boys raise them both I don't see where my husband would have DNA of my granddaughter in a fold of him on thigh high shorts cuz this is a 90s these are older General so they're thigh shorts capris why is her DNA and blood mind you in in his pants along with his DNA okay so it had to be wet when it entered hello yeah I'm questioning that father for some reason I have grandchildren I have boys and I can't tell you where would be in the ham of my husband shorts at all
One possible innocent explanation: The shorts belonged to the father. The daughter borrowed them or mistook them for her own, and wore them.. The shorts were altered with turnups. The material inside the altered hem containing the DNA survived any subsequent washing.
Confused at times. Wich Cooper are they referring to? Father or son? Ad first names please. Also I can't understand that woman with her annoying voice and accent.
Cooper never lived in Milford Haven, he lived in Jordanston, next to my ex of the time. His son, Adrian, lived in Milford on 4 occasions. This whole documentary is false, absolute rubbish, designed to entertain the internet.
Some families don't need persuasion to give false alibi to a family member. He was operating in an area of not very good police detective, which is why he wasn't caught sooner. You can see time and again the value of a good police officers in catching killers. Sometimes just because they were suspicious and decided to check something
Serial Killer Rodney Alcala was on a TV show in the 1970's The Dating Game I believe & he won but he creeped out the woman so much she refused to go on the date with him. She had GREAT instincts!!! This guy going on TV reminds me of that!
I remember this. I think he killed two more people after that before he was caught. That woman's radar saved her life, she is so lucky.
narcissist's
Called himself a "banana". I remember that being one of his answers.
Yeah backstage he was supposed to have said something big headed and it gave her the creeps. Can't recall exactly what he said.
Yeah! I watched that documentary/episode and they even showed a clip from the Dating Game Tv show where he appeared ! Pretty unbelievable knowing what we know now and looking back on it with hindsight
I think you're mistaken in calling him a farmer- he lived on the same council housing estate as me (and at the same time). He was just a casual farm worker or just as often unemployed. His son really hated him, his wife was terrified of him- both with good reason. My brother in law was interrogated after the Scoveston Manor killings as he lived nearby and had a firearms license. The police were clueless for a long time, despite Cooper's well known criminality and violent tendencies. His family still suffers the stigma of his monstrous crimes. They are good people. It is him alone that bears responsibility for his actions. He made his family live in real fear for decades. I suspect they will never find peace until he dies and there is absolutely no way he could be released and return to hurt them or others any more.
Thank you Mr Llewellyn, your personal knowledge of Cooper and his family gives a fascinating insight. I've no doubt that his family were also very much his victims and sadly are still suffering the stigma of his crimes. Comments on here such as"the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" shows how judgemental people can be, and how wrong..
Thanks for your more of an insider story.
However ..... his family enabled him to keep going. And killing.
They bear a huge part of the responsibility. They could have put an end to his crime spree. Period!
@@abocasthey were scared of him.
@@guardiansanimalrescuestate7289 oh, I got that. So not turning him in or giving him a false alibi made them not scared?
@@abocas It allowed them to live.
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Until the people who helps these criminals are held to account for lying and providing false testimony there will be no change. Those that lie should be charged as accessories to any crimes committed after they lied.
Yes!
They would be in the States.
Lying to the cops is not the same as giving a false testimony, but I’d be surprised if there weren’t a charge for that in the UK like there is in the USA. You also have to consider that be abused his family, he stuck a shotgun in his own child’s mouth, I guarantee that someone would be hurt soon after they told the truth about his whereabouts.
@@bigwendigo2253 Exactly, people have no idea how police procedure works. You don't just call the police on somebody and they immediately go away forever lol
The only liars here are the police. Cooper is innocent - the real killer, who murdered even more, died in 2015 of old age.
The alibis remind me of Peter Sutcliff's wife and once his mother, alibiing him over and over. The first one included his mother saying he was at the house warming party They criticized the police for believing family members then, but they still did it here. If authorities started seriously prosecuting people for giving false alibis, it would stop a lot of people.
Absolutely appalling the police don't prosecute families' members for giving false alibis! That's obstruction of justice ~ purposefully impeding an investigation ~ those ARE crimes!
U remind me of the narrator who said exactly the same thing at the start, just a copycat wanting to be bright
I agree that people who have given a false alibi should be prosecuted. Even if they were scared to talk to the police while the suspect was right there next to them, they could have secretly contacted the police later.
yes but that sucks for real citizens . i’m always with my family . rarely anyone else 😮
Suttcliffe did only kill 4
Odd how he couldn't pull off a robbery but he can pull off a slaughter. Seems like the robbery would would have been the easy part.
I’m guessing with the murders that was done quickly, the quicker you keep someone hostage the higher the chance they escape I guess
What an insane story!
And all totally false.
@@baconneggs1234 Its all total rubbish. A stitch up by the police. Coopers son married my ex, I know what really happened.
@@baconneggs1234 The real guilty person probably murdered 6 more people over the years. He died of old age in 2015. I know his name and a huge amount of other facts, but cannot say stuff in public as Cooper has an appeal being compiled right now. The son, Adrian , had many other agendas.
@@Hensen1954
Unfortunately i was a little suspicious just didnt make sense
It felt like the police just wanted closure and they are well known for planting evidence and other items on people they want to blame or frame...believe me ive had my tangle with them...
@@Hensen1954 false how? There’s literally a witness of his character at the top of the comments section
And the UK will treat him better than most homeless folks and probably get parole...
NO, he will DIE in prison.
Peter and Gwenda Dickson RIP 🙏
His family are as guilty as he is for giving a false alibi.
They are guilty of perverting the course of justice but ultimately HE is the one that killed, not his family.
@@elizabethsohler6516 Yes, just as guilty. Guilty is guilty.
He physically abused his wife and son they were scared of him it wasnt out of malice
Apple doesn't fall far from tree
@@ollie9195 so what? Even scared women has to take responsibility for their choices. Murder isn't a walk in the park 😡
The Welsh police were a great help to him over the years, as was his family. That said, of course they gave him an alibi, after what he did to his son. They must have been terrified.
I hate that this story is so fascinating. Why do we love these stories? I like to think it's to see them caught. 🙈
For me, I like to learn how they progressed into their psychosis, and/or narcissism. Usually, it starts with childhood abuse, neglect, or trauma. I yell at the screen that it's just awful to mistreat children. It just breaks my heart, and I wish the psychopaths were able to get help before they lost control.
@@sheristewart3940 just the typical female herd and care instinct?
How about the loads of other people experiencing tough conditions, without murdering?
Trivial evil exists, never mind how much naive women needs something to nurse and manage 😉
Guess which sex are most represented in Psychiatry..
I dont know, for me its a step up from mental health education and horror movies.. in the beginning i had nightmeirs watching these. It would really f me up and im used to some strong horror. Its totally different and more scary when its real. Those poor victims. I cant imagine. It is very interesting how these monsters are made nature nurture. As long as the victims are respected and People learn how to prevent and recognise red flags i guess its ok. This one was reported well. Some muricans their sensationalising walks a thin line. I feel dirty watching those. Interrogations are very intreging too.
@@sheristewart3940 Hi Shari, We used to laugh at my mom yelling at the tv. Now I do it too...a lot!
I am against the death penalty, but sometimes I think impalement would be appropriate in certain cases.
Same here
I agree with you
@Frank Skoda-Simmons You presume too much about someone you do not know a thing about, as is very often the case in these comment sections.
You do not even know why I am against the death penalty, as I did not state my reasons.
Also, you make claims that are evidently not true.
There are many who lost someone as a result of murder, who are against the death penalty. You only need to do a bit of googling, or watch a few documentaries about the topic.
@Frank Skoda-Simmons Whoa back off with the lecture and sweeping statements Mr. Pedant. And the false good wishes: "I hope you won't learn it the hard way..." when you mean anything but. I believe that you DO hope Mr. Plosky learns it "the hard way".
This is RUclips and ordinary people make Comments that, while sometimes inappropriate and maddening, have little value in the grand scheme of things. In short and in my opinion, you are wasting space.
For those of you against the death penalty , can you explain …is it because of religious reasons “thou shall not kill?” ..or do you feel that we are an advanced enough society that we should be able to function without it? Also, if you are against the death penalty then what do you think should be done to the people in our society that choose to kill? Just life imprisonment?
I remember hearing about him when I was a kid due to the media frenzy regarding his appearance on the massive game show Bullseye. At the time the show pulled in 15-20 million viewers, so many people saw him as a contestant but had no idea about his past, and what was yet to come.
And he seemed really quiet and humble even lowering his eyes when he got questions correct. Sometimes it's hard to understand that these people are human with human traits but have this monster inside but can appear quite normal. On Bullseye this was the case, lowering his eyes when he answered questions not seeming big headed.
The narrator's voice is perfect.
Wonder how his kids feel about him, seeing this, them victims too, how one person can ruin so many people remains crazy!!
He used to beat his son up. As soon as he was able to, Coopers son moved out of Milford Haven and disconnected with the family.
He had plenty of help with the false alibis 🙄
They think hes a prick
I always said that SPOT THE BALL was a gateway competition to MULTIPLE MURDER!
True story.
Fascinating and so very sad at the same time. One can but feel for the victims and family of this man Cooper.
Thanks so much! Such a favorite show..👍
This sort of thing really makes me happy intelligent people seldom do crime.
Absolute twaddle. Poly-LIE-TIC-ians & their enforcers & collaborators commit horrendous crimes every day & get away with it cos the dumb public don't care.
something ive noticed about these videos is the way the narrator talks, some words he says make me think wtf, the way he said mandatory at 41:53
England dialects are different in different areas, or if you speak US english- then the whole England english is differently pronounced indeed. Is it aluminum or aluminium? :D
@@mindlesslydisplaced US dialects differ from area to area.🇺🇸
@@francesmeyer8478 Spanish dialects differ from area to area 🇪🇸
All my years growing up in England and always loved Wales over all other areas in England such as I love North Carolina, Colorado springs and northern Georgia here in the states now, I never heard of John cooper at all. Wales is for sure a area one would least expect a serial killer being around. It's not like a big city or anything.
I used to live on peterson Road colorado springs.........we were stationed at peterson AFB
Wales is a country,nothing to do with a city
Everywhere is the same. shit.
Ed Gein lived in a rural area and was a bit of a "loner," Jack the Ripper ( whoever he was ) Jeffery Dahmer and many others committed their crimes in major cities. It's not the landscape that makes the killer.
Wales is a Country? There's loads of cities in Wales.
Most of the time, these criminals need to be put down. Why should legal, law abidinng citizens have to pay for their incarceration.
Because, if we take the example of the USA, it is well documented that the total cost generated by the lengthy process of putting someone to death far exceeds the cost of incarceration for life.
I know that here in the U.S. we are still finding people who were discovered to be innocent of the crime they were initially found guilty of. Some of them even falsely confessed. I would rather we let all the guilty live until natural death than put even one innocent person to death. But I’m aware that I’m in the minority on that.
Laws are made too protect the guilty from the justice seeking angry population!
@@ginalove3115 However..the majority of people convicted..are guilty! and now with DNA testing..i would say there is a 100% chance that. there is no chance of a wrong conviction.
I'm just curious, did a stray cat cough up the decaying mouse playing the part of Cooper's mustache, or did the production staff just glue a dirty carpet remnant to the actor's face and call it good? Even with the extreme close-ups it's hard for me to tell
If someone says "tHis iSn'T tHe TyPe oF pLaCe ThEsE tHiNgS HaPpEn!" one more time in one of these documentaries I'm gonna be the one going psycho. Seriously how do these people not get sick of their own cliches? This Yardley woman has like 5 lines. You could make one of those dolls of her where you pull a string and she says one of several lines ie. "It was all about power for him. His victims were just objects"
Hahaha so true. We should start a list …
@@edwardbrianna9729 'it was all for his ego'
Y'all killing me...oops.
She seemed like a quiet woman.
I’m just glad Emma kenny expert “psychologist” isn’t on here where she speaks on the victims and perpetrators behalf as to what they’re thinking wheras anyone with the ability to construct their own theories will see she’s wrong 99% if the time
I am from wales and never thought this would even come up on my mind
When they said bulls eye i remembered this evil brute
I just adore Jeffery Wansell. He looks like the perfect English grandpa.
When DNA shows that the perpetrator killed, I believe in the death penalty. For violent rapes, castrate.
Castrating doesnt stop rape, only removes risk of unwanted pregnancy significantly. Removal of their genitals and reproductive parts completely, to pee sitting seems more fitting. I mean if were talking barbaric punishments that is. Not that i have put much thought in that... 😶🌫️😏
Me too!
@@distracted5767 ,if they cut it off and medical castration you can't get sexually aroused, but they can go to the Bible they so many believe in and do it that way!
@@tinamurray5610 what are you talking about. Castrating doesnt stop arousal. And what do religions have to do with anything. Thats Just ignorant and weird. We all know religions add to the abuse because that surpresses their nature rather than fix it. Also abuse is mostly about power and control rather than just the sexual aspect. Religion is a perfect tool to abuse for these preditors so that they dont have to take ownership for what they did. Religion also gives them direct acces to vulnerable People they can exploit. The last place they should be is near gullable people
This is horrific, 😭
He, actually, told the detectives, when they question him about the shorts,
"these looks like my shorts but they are too short",
and then they found out that his wife had shortened them
and they found the DNA under the hem.
I have seen this story in another documentary.
Cheap boy got wifey to
Me too. What a dirty boy..to decent people
Totally wrong, the shorts were his sons, bought in America when the family went to visit Coopers sister, after they won Spot the ball. The shorts were never sold in UK or Europe. The documentaries, etc, are all just amusement for the viewers - nothing like the truth.
Disgusting!...
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
The Pandemic was over two years ago you sanctimonious gloit
An excellent series from ITV starring Luke Evans recreates this story of John Cooper's murderous crime spree.
The UK police believe victims deserve their tribulations inflicted upon them!!
He's probably responsible for more than just these ones. There was a lady who was found dead in her bath that some people say it was a murder less than a mile away from him years before this
The family who alibied him should have gotten jail time and a hearty fine. They are just as responsible for the murders.
I arrested Peter Tobin about 18 months before his arrest for murder...he was belligerent and obnoxious towards me ..(this is not uncommon given the circumstances )..however when a wpc arrived he instantly became another person he was charismatic a real real charmer..he had the wpc believing I was the bad guy...I knew he was a psychopath
Tobin is bed ridden ( chained ) with cancer and hopefully in lots of pain……he doesn’t deserve pain relief! I would personally let him rot in agony if it was up to me!
How was John Cooper albe to get a shotgun in the uk
@@charlottestreet3301 Easy if you have the right contacts
@@charlottestreet3301 people in farming communities get them pretty easily for hunting, is my understanding of it.
I absolutely fucking LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, these videos. I watch them at night as I am going to sleep.
20:55 "they were in their early fifties" and they show you at least a 70-75+ couple
Well researched
Sick!....
Weird that he didnt kill the teenagers? The couples he killed must have known him personally, and perhaps even recognized him.
Amazing channel 🎉
Money, the root of...not all, but a lot of evil.
It's the love of money
Parasitic. We all know some like that. Often where youre so glad to escape and recover from.. But to do all those things.. you have to be some extra level of selfish and sociopathic. I wonder if he had some headinjuries rather than just the fact he won big once. He already had his agression prior to winning at gambling. So ok maybe that was the trigger to go on a criminal path but thats def not the cause of his deeper cruel selfish issues
"He was on a show called bullseye where you play darts and answer questions"
Sounds lame and no budget lol.
@00:38 Dude has kind of an Alex Trebek look to him..
i’m so sorry but the narrator is so funny lmfao
Rodney Alcala did not win he was the next contestant to go. It was the dating game and the girl contestant said his answers were creepy
No, he did win but she refused to go out with him
@@TariAkpodiete Yep. She picked him, then cancelled the date because, as you said, she didn't like his creepy vibe. Smart young lady, listened to her spider senses.
He makes me think about Ivan Milat for some reason.
Ivan was framed.
WHY, did they let him out of prison?
some of the things these "experts" say are just hilarious. like saying a rural community is not where something like this hapens.dafuq...that's the perfect setting. few police, few cctv, few or no witnesses...simple logic...it's like alaska.in alaska, there are more missing people than people living there
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👍🏻Didn't knew that scary fact about Alaska. Sounds logic 😬
@@OmmerSyssel idk if it s a fact, but it s very probabile
@@nostraoffice1486 So, a guess then?
His family is guilty too!
The title says, Welsh farmer.....he was a known crook! who lived & worked on a farm! A labourer, not a farmer!
This guy reminds me a bit of Rodney Alcala (the scumbag who was on The Dating Game) in that he couldn't help himself. He wanted fame and notoriety and like Alcala, he didn't care how he got them.
This guy was such a vile character.
Disagree hes just a bit misunderstood 😕
I take a very first look at that pseudo Cooper and immediatly tell myself that he'd portray a very convincing Stalin indeed... That feeling never left me, may I add. Too bad for him, would have made him really famous!
This is not the behaviour of a gentleman.
Even though his family contributed to the murders of the elderly couple and the attack on teenagers and the teacher, for giving him an alibi. It looks like they had no choice , the police would have released him until any DNA was linked to him. In the meantime he would have blown his family members heads off.
You damn right he would've. The people being so judgemental here have never been in the presence of genuine evil.
It's astounding how many people in the comments claim to have known this person, and right along side of a lot of comments blaming those who knew him for not turning him in sooner. All unproven of course... Smfh sad...
Damn video peeps he said early fifties!!
Evil 😈 man
SO WHAT ABOUT THE ALIBIES GIVEN. DID THEY NOT QUESTION THOSE WHO GAVE FALSE ALIBIES.....
Cooper will find out just how hot Hell is, You think your notes now Cooper you’ll be insanely screaming for eternity there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
Switch from DNA to tactile fibers. God, it’s so awesome to see people really put their heart in it. Stop at nothing. Hell yeah!
Sounds like Rodney Alcala
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The cooment about killers not liking t.v is kinda bunk. There are several examples of killers being on t.v, Edward Edwards, Ted Bundy, Manson, chameleon killer loved the spotlight of the tv cameras
COWARD COOPER is his identity......period
Murder is wrong!!!
What does the wife think ?? 😮
Is this elden ring ?
No bloodborne
@@RustTillDusk ok thanks 😊
Why is not available in Puerto Rico? Puerto Rico is USA territory in south Florida, US
Puerto Rico's a COMMONWEALTH only, of the United States of America. Puerto Rico has it's own government completely separate from the United States of America's government. If Puerto Rico were United States of America territory, we would eliminate the ubiquitous corruption rampant in Puerto Rico.
@@sheristewart3940 lol
How big is this community that they couldn't figure out it was him? Where was Prince Charles when you need them he's here to serve after all
Adverts,adverts and more adverts…unwatchable
Why was the FIRST couple, who were only in their 50s portrayed as in their 60s or 70s?
Stop MANIPULATING PEOPLE!!
This guy playing murder needs his kidneys checked asap from according the eye sacks under his eyes. Just putting it out there!
Why do you say that? curious! it may be info I could use..
@@martenkrueger8647 The sacks under the eye could be an indicator of kidney problems. I was trying to be sarcastic but warned at the same time. It could also be to a lot of other things like collagen and sleep patterns or lack of nutrients and other diseases. But it could be. Are you ok?
R.I.P. Queen Elizabeth II
"Absolutely Absolutely Absolutely Absolutely". I suggest to the female co-host that she return to grade school in order to sound more educated. How about you finish Grade 9? By then you will surely have expanded your vocabulary 🤭🤪🤷
Can’t stand the way she speaks, sounds so uneducated,I find it hard to take her seriously.
Is anybody else asking themselves why a pair of shorts on a father has the daughters DNA in any case I can't tell you that I had a granddaughter and I have boys raise them both I don't see where my husband would have DNA of my granddaughter in a fold of him on thigh high shorts cuz this is a 90s these are older General so they're thigh shorts capris why is her DNA and blood mind you in in his pants along with his DNA okay so it had to be wet when it entered hello yeah I'm questioning that father for some reason I have grandchildren I have boys and I can't tell you where would be in the ham of my husband shorts at all
One possible innocent explanation:
The shorts belonged to the father.
The daughter borrowed them or mistook them for her own, and wore them..
The shorts were altered with turnups.
The material inside the altered hem containing the DNA survived any subsequent washing.
The daughter might have ironed and packed them for him.
Confused at times. Wich Cooper are they referring to? Father or son? Ad first names please. Also I can't understand that woman with her annoying voice and accent.
Nobody is going to cater to you. Don't watch.
Viola, it's John Cooper the nasty Father. There are better documentaries...
Cooper never lived in Milford Haven, he lived in Jordanston, next to my ex of the time. His son, Adrian, lived in Milford on 4 occasions. This whole documentary is false, absolute rubbish, designed to entertain the internet.
dyou think he did the murders?
@@barrybark3995 No, it was someone else who died of old age in 2015.
@@Hensen1954 what made u think that?
@@barrybark3995 I know all the latest info, plus John Coopers son, married my ex ( Susan ).
@@Hensen1954 oh i see.was that bit about the shotgun in the sons mouth made up? im not local jus wondered .thanks for sharing
So sorry to hear about the victims but you cannot believe everything the police tell us.
Unbelievable lousy and sensationalised presentation 😱🤮
Thanks for nothing 🙄
sound like someone got out of bed on the wrong side this morning?
> All murders are unnecessary
Let's agree to disagree
Goofy Welsh cops,who's coat is that jacket........
Some families don't need persuasion to give false alibi to a family member. He was operating in an area of not very good police detective, which is why he wasn't caught sooner. You can see time and again the value of a good police officers in catching killers. Sometimes just because they were suspicious and decided to check something
That thumbnail is norm Macdonald in disguise I don’t give a fuck