Successfully Growing Food in Sand?! They used a Cuban Technique called "Organopónicos"
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- With the Covid-19 Pandemic and food shortages becoming a reality, It was a good time to visit and get an update with Josh Jamison, over at HEART Village. Every year they see their soil fertility increase using the Cuban Model; "Organopónicos". In this video, Josh delivers highly valuable information that would be of great assistance to anyone growing food and trying to maximize their yields.
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@1:19 I appreciate the quotation marks around the "corona virus pandemic"!
@@katnip2u from the first case reported in the U. S. on 1/21/20 to being declared a pandemic on 3/11/ 20 Was 1 month 19 days for 119!
Sandy Cracks In The Ground?! Sand Man Grow Dat Food! P.D.
Hi Pete. I do NOT appreciate the quotation marks.
I normally hit the like button on your videos but not this time. Now is not the time to be visiting farms or anywhere else. Stay home, save lives. Imagine how you would feel if you carried the virus to one (or more) of your farmers OR their family. The content you provide will be much needed in the near future so stay safe and plan, plan, plan to feed the masses.
@@katnip2u I came to say this too. Appreciate the quotation marks
*My man Josh is like a gardening savant. He dropped so many gold nuggets for Floridians. I appreciate this video.*
Seriously! Florida is so lucky to have him.
@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL We are fortunate to have H.E.A.R.T. in Florida. Josh is such a great resource. If more people knew about him and his methodology it would really help support the mission of HEART so it be can shared locally and abroad.Love their concept growing. Thank you for continuing to highlight H.E.A.R.T.
the only problem is the guy they have running he volunteer coordination at HEART. I believe his name was James. I applied and did a tour, did the background check, emailed to check up on it and never heard anything.
I move to a wonderful beach town in Florida a year ago. I thought Alabama clay was tricky! I have not been successful growing a vegetable garden here, or my lemon trees that grew 3 inches the first 2 months and then stopped growing a year ago.
I look forward to learning what I need to know!! Thank you! 💕
Misleading title. They didn't grow in the sandy soil; they grew on top of it via raised beds...
Actually, that’s exactly how a person grows in sandy soil lol
Thanks for commenting this and letting me know before I used up 20 minutes of my precious time;
Now, I can go look for something else;
I appreciate you;
@@westoversoutheastactually if you can buy top soil and and cart it over, you can actually grow on concrete, tarmac, and even your bathroom floor, actually.
I forgot; lol.
Exactly what i was thinking
I live in Southern Africa. And our soil is sandy. I farm with patatoes, that works the best for me.
I live in sugar sand and it's no easier so I am now growing in horse manure and shavings that rotted for a year. My garden is doing really well, finally.
Glad to hear!
DJ, You may want to try a bioreactor to generate compost that will inoculate your soil with microbial life to wildly amp up its water retention, nitrogen fixation, and 5x your plant production permanently. See ruclips.net/video/XlB4QSEMzdg/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/DxUGk161Ly8/видео.html
Try sand hydroponics
All amazing positive advice, I have the same exact soil. I’m thinking of building raised beds .
What an awesome garden complex! If only I could clone myself - then perhaps I would have the energy to maintain a garden that size! 🤔😉
I need a clone machine also! 🤣
Armadillos tilled my garden last year but they aren`t very good at it and killed everything.
This is the video I needed, he's only an hour N of me, very encouraging, guess it's time for some raised beds...so much info here I've been struggling with, this was the bomb...now back to the dirt...!!!
Awesome! Josh is a wealth of information.
" What's growing on " Pete
I've lived in Florida my entire life, where on earth do you find clay soil here??
I'm in Fort Lauderdale. Soil was close to 100% sand. Looked just like that, but opposite pH, at 8.4. After fertilizing, mulching the tree leaves and grass, adding wood chippings, etc, it's still very sandy and white. Organic matter gets washed deeper. If I had access to clay, I would definitely try that.
7:00. I love your taro patch. I have a taro patch too here in Malaysia, but very small patch, just a small polystyrene box but enough to provide me food (I am the only one in my family that eats taro). I eat the stems, leaves and tubers - all of it, none gone to waste! Haha!
I add a few teaspoons of powdered clay to a watering can and water all the sand and it holds together after that its really easy and cheap. it does not take much clay at all im sure a pound of clay could cover that entire lot when dissolved into water.
I hope youguys are all healthy,happy , and safe too, Thanks Pete.
Living the dream bro!
I live on sand and have a heck of a time as a new gardener. Thank you so much for your tips!
Glad to help!
checkout iAVS/Sandgardening. We have a facebook group at facebook.com/groups/1318946951452383/
I just got a horihori .. my favorite tool now along with the rice knife love the organoponicos system Josh rocks
Hi Yours is is a much better teaching method than many others
I’m on the ridge also. Where in the world am I going to get clay?? LOL.
Hey homiez... I live in Michigan where it's pretty much sand central except for the top layer..I am choosing Hugelkultur design where I rake in all the leaves from the forest adding indigenous microorganisms along with dragging in all the old logs so the roots can tap into the moisture during drought thymez and eat bug shyt ect..the logs also hold the nutrients so they don't leach out of the sand and add nutrients themselves...it's known as the 50-year Garden...love you dudez...... Post scriptum add in some Biodynamics (Maria Thun) haz an awesome calendar.
ZephaniahW Marion gotta love bug shyte , thank you for sharing ❤️
Wow that how you grow sweet potatoes
Thank for sharing and stay safe
I unkowingly did the same thing for my raised bed/terracing (i have a sloping backyard), but used a very common resource here in South florida...that being old hurricane shutters. Lots of people put in impact windows and giving away their old shutters...they are 14" wide on average, so two (which nest together naturally with some over lap)make a nice approximately 2 foot high bed. I used cheap landscaping timbers for the upright pillars.
Great idea...I was looking around trying to think what I could use; the old shutters are out in the garage!
The solution to ignorance is well balanced knowledge :)
Thank you!! from sandy soil Texas with gophers and moles, I'm frustrated with so I'm doing a Hugo culture garden I had so much rotten wood on my property I didn't want it to go to waste. But I will make a garden somewhat like yours and see the difference in my Hugo. But I enjoyed the knowledge thanks again.
I like your accent, you sould like a really chill surfer dude
Worm castings will bond that sand together .
Central Florida's sugar sand doesn't lend itself to retaining moisture or nutrients I can attest to this. I personally grow out of 17 gallon containers because of this. About 1/2 sand 1/2 compost amended seasonally with compost & blood/bone meal.
I have "Taro" coming up here in Virginia! Last year I grew it in big pots and the mild winter did not kill it so I have many plants coming up now! I bought one corm from an oriental store and it has been very prolific!
What!!!! Did you do any kind of special treatment for it?
@@Sunshine_Daydream222 No! Just kept it wet! I have a bunch coming up now and I will trans plant them to compost piles I dug up and made last year! Should be a great place for them to grow around all of my ginger from Hawaii!
Cutting off the leaves to prevent transpiration is a GREAT tip! 👌
I also heard that the other day on an America’s Test Kitchen video, re: cutting off carrot tops (and saving them separately) to prevent the carrots from getting dried out. 🥕 The repetition of info really helps w/ reinforcement.! 👍
Thank you, Pete and Josh! I've got it all; FL. sand, hoards of armadillos, rabbits, raccoons, squirrels, hogs, deer, and ? varieties of cats, not to mention unidentified species of bugs! Josh's setup and ideas are great! I do believe there's hope for me!
Sue Young - Same, here in SE Texas. 😂
Really enjoyed this video. I was excited to hear about his soil mixture as I'm trying something similar (sand, compost, a little bit of clay, and pine bark mulch for use in pots) since I'm trying to have as little environmental impact as possible and I can get all of these components on my property (and they don't cost anything!). Awesome!
Pine is acid forming, the only plant I know like it Philomena, blue berry maybe
I really enjoyed this he has a lot of information for gardeners, Thank you
Awesome video. I could definitely see this helping people's perception on how to set up a bed in our Florida soil. One of my favorite public lands to hunt is in the lake Wales ridge state forest, and it is super sandy. Ive read the ancient history behind it, and from what I understand when Florida was covered in ocean thousands of years ago that area was above sea level. Apparently the area that I hunt is all ancient sand dunes. It's very protected, and there are plants growing there that don't grow anywhere else. Very cool place to hunt and camp.
Yup! I love that lake wales ridge. You can even find some very unique topography in some areas.
Yeah man it's a special place. The only time I've ever got in some quick sand was down there. I thought I was a goner for sure lol.
Love this garden tour. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the tour. Thank you so much for bringing this information to us.
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Really enjoyed this video! I’ve been contemplating raised beds and we have a ton of metal from our barn the Irma blew down! Researching this Cuban method now! Thanks Pete and Josh!
Thank yous for sharing. . . .
Josh and Pete, really nice job, tutorial, teaching,video,scenery, producer and editing and dedication
Thanks Nancy! ❤️
I’ve seen the Chinese do something similar where the took sand was mixed it w something to paste like material which helps hold water 💦 incredible technology.
Blessings to Pete, Josh
AndALL
Thanks 🙏
This is good information for us. We are starting an off-grid homestead at 7800 ft above sea level in So. Colorado. The soil is TOTAL SAND and the area gets 8 inches of precipitation per year. Anything we can do to build the soil will help. Thanks!
How much land you did ? Where did you get the mulch ?
Liked every minute of this video 👏🏾👌🏾
Thanks bro 👊
@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL your welcome Pete 👊🏾
If you live in a desert or other water poor area a sealed raised bed with a water faucet at the bottom lets you recapture all the water minerals and fertilizers that normally just drain away.
Awesome video! THANK YOU and we hope we can visit the farm when we move to Florida this year. God Bless!
Love the new video Pete
Thanks 😊
I have to give this video a Wow, I gained some well needed knowledge, thanks for sharing!!
I live in Spain and on my property it is the same sand. But everything grows amazingly well and super quick.
Being in the high Sierras with lots of wind and not much rain, I actually dig low beds, I dig down far enough that when I add soil and plants they sit level with the ground, then I mulch. This way they get protected until they take hold and get acclimated. Raised beds need way too much water here and very few plants need full sun here at 6000 feet elevation. Here shade is our friend
Great video! I live in SW Florida and my soil is sand. I'm trying the Back to Eden gardening method. I'm 2 years in and starting to see some results. Waiting for the wood chips to decompose is trying. I think Josh's gardening method would be a good fit for my soil. Thanks for sharing this info!
Get a lot of leaves, they decompose much faster
Mix your highly acidic sandy soil with my highly alkaline sand and silt desert soil. The advantage you have, lots of green stuff around to compost. Use a lot of composted weed tea over here.
This place is on my list to visit. I think I'll stop in around the 22nd of December. 🤗🤗🤗
Good video, never seen you guys before.
Take a sample of any soil and fill it up a little more than halfway and then fill the rest up with water within one inch of the top. Then shake it vigorously for 10 minutes making sure that everything gets wet and then it's swirling around before you set it down. The next day you will see layers of different soil construction. And you'll be able to determine what you're low on depending on what kind of garden you're going to grow.
I own a large Rock crusher and other machines to reduce anything down to 100 - which feels a lot like flour.
I can see collecting clay and pulverizing it down to 300 - or maybe just 100 - would be sufficient. And then sell bags of it.
God danmmit Pete, the "whats growing on" is just way too good. Keep up the great job
Thanks man! 👊
This is a great video, thank you for posting it for us!!
Glad you enjoyed!!
Great video lots information 👍
Thank you for diversifying your videos this one was awesome 👏
Its funny how things change when our generation starts farming. Farmers go from saying things like howdy yall to man thats an epic sweet potato.lol
🤣🤣🤣
Парень молодец! Голыми руками картофель сажает :)) Спасибо за видео.
Great video. Even for someone who lives in the opposite side of the US (Minnesota). Yes, I try to grow sweet potatoes, with not much luck and I grow taro. Right now they are inside on pots with a lot of water and no holes, since they are basically bog plants, waiting to move to their container bog once it's warm enough. Will try experimenting in an area where I mostly let dry leaves slowly turn into compost, without any effort from me. Got some ideas, for my garden. Example, plant lettuce in the shady areas of my tomatoes, I experiment a lot since our growing season is very short.
QUESTION
Greetings Pete,
What type of "ground cloth liner" does Josh use on the bottom? (minute 9:17)
Thanks
transcript minute 9:17
So there's bed frames and all sorts of old rusty junk they're about three and a half feet and they get driven in every four feet down the length of the bed to hold up the tin and then there's a like a ground cloth liner on the bottom to keep the small particles of organic matter and clay from leaving and then in ...
Hey Josh is there a ground cover / low growing plant , that you could plant in some compatible beds? It would help with weeding and be an extra thing to sell .
Hey thank you for information
I love it. I am planting as intensively as i can to print as much of my own money as possible!! P>D>
YES! 👊
The concept of printing one's own money by planting is brilliant. And disruptive, rebellious, defiant, insurgent, bold, and intractable. Great metaphor!
@marthale7 Nice metaphor about the runaway slave, marthale7!
More videos with Josh, please! Wealth of knowledge that guy!
Working on it! 👊
CORN GLUTEN MEAL PRE-EMERGENT
The timing for applying corn gluten meal for pre-emergent weed control is just before the weeds start to germinate. We usually guess that to be February 15 to March 15 in the South.
Liquid corn gluten meal spray - a listener/farmer recommendation that's a great idea.
The way we use corn gluten on our fields - we make a tea out of it and spray on the fields once a month from Autumn to May. Works very well. We use 2 to 6 cups of corn gluten to 100 gallons of water and spray it on with a pull behind sprayer. We just put the corn gluten meal in panty hose and suspend it in the sprayer when we fill it up, then swish the panty hose, remove and stir. Use at about 35 gallons per acre. Simple, economical and effective.
This place is amazing. Great video. I am also in FL with the same native sand. I have been amending beds with cheap cat litter. Will look for more info on the Cuban organoponicos. Thanks.
Wood chips in clear bags, water (moist but not standing water) and let them stand in the sun. They should break down, very fast. That is good substrate, not a lot of nutrients,but something for the worms an bacteria to settle in. Pores, structure, water retention. Much better than the cat litter (you have no idea what is in it).
Love....love....love.....H. E. A. R. T. ......been there and bought plants ! Great place ! Ty4Sharing Pete !!! Wolf from Pasco County, FL.
Thanks Wolf! 👊
I want to definitely see this place soon!!!
Great video!
Please comment on the contributing factor that is controlling the nematode pressure. Thank you.
I am struggling to garden in the sandy South also.
This is awesome man. Loving the content and videos. Definitely will be supporting. I looking to relocate to FL from GA in the next 2 yrs. I love the scene you guys have. This is so dope.
Great video! I’m in FL and grow sweet potatoes in the summer. Never gave much thought to the variety though. Where can I find a cutting for Tainong 64?
Glad you enjoyed! Good question on the sweet potatoes.
Great video, grow on!
Thanks bro 👊
Coarse acidic sand seems like a great candidate for gypsum and lime to stabilize it and raise PH, and add a lot of organic matter.
@1:19 I appreciate the quotation marks around the "corona virus pandemic"!
Same. 👌👌👌
WOW!! Im learning so much (as always) and Im so grateful to you for sharing.. Thank you! Keep em coming please.
I had a neighbor many years ago who would grow all his broccoli, cauliflower and kale in sand. It produced amazing plants but holy hell it took DAYS sometimes to rinse the sand out of the florets! I'd hear my family chewing their dinner and then suddenly you'd hear sand being ground between teeth LOL it was awful and I never did figure out how to remove ALL the sand lol!!
Too funny! 🤣
@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL Some of the prettiest & tastiest broccoli I ever had before or since
Did you ever try soaking it with a mild tumbling action?
Pachyrhyzus erosis or Jicama may suit your Farm very well as it likes warm well drained soils and is quite hardy and productive. Tomatillos another.
In Michigan watermelon grows in pure sand really great!
I wish I had some sand up here in Ontario Canada. my soil is 85% silt and 15% clay.
All I need is some sand and some compost and I'm set
Be cautious with sand, the best improvement is with compost, and I think wood chips. Added and worked into the dense soil. I know -temporary nitrogen binding where the wood is processed by funghi, but in that case you need to get structure into the soil and pores and the nitrogen can be fixed from the top in form of liquid fertilizer, manure or whatever.
Gypsum is a temporary fix (that should be used with a lot of moderation, if at all, it also comes at the cost of fertility).
What can happen is the that the clay gets into the pores of sand and cloggs them, you do not get the best of both worlds, and you would need to add 50 % sand to clay in order to really soften the soil - and that comes with a price in fertility, ability to hold water and exchange of ions (nutrition).
David the Good has an article on his blog (Can you do no dig on clay). Southern state, clay soil (pottery quality material), and lots of rain, so still problem with standing water that also stands in the good layer that has already been built if they have one or two weeks of rain.
The woman he interviwed should have dug deep ONCE (even maybe using machines) and on that occasion should have worked in lots of organic matter / wood chips. Temporary drainage would have been an option to consider. At least the ground is flat - if it would have a slope the good layer would have already slided down on a water film during periods of heavy rain.
I read that straw gets slimy under such conditions, but wood chips are supposed to be good, or maybe hay. I guess newspaper crushed into in balls could be added - not as flat sheet - might also be good to provide some structure and holes and airpockets where life can enter from top down. Or shreddered paper or carton in pieces.
Wet newspaper sheets clings to the underground (if it is laid out) even more than wet _sheets_ or carton and seals off everything under it from air, and a little bit from water. With the Back to Eden method they use that trait of wet newspaper and carton on top to smother lawn and weeds in order to turn a meadow or lawn into a vegetable garden.
So the paper carton would need to have another structure to give structure to the soil. paper are a form of wood.
because it clings well to the underground
Careful weighing down can help to settle down the soil. Just enough so that there are no larger airpockets depending on what you bury underground, wet paper balls will disintegrate soon and the soil if it gets wet will weigh it down. (some bury logs and branches for instance at the bottom of higher raised beds and they see to it that have no pockets - of course they do not use clay soil to set up a raised bed - unless that soil has already been transformed) - Airpockets could host insects and critters..
She has two distinct layers, the good top soil she built and the (dead) clay zone where nothing can enter, no air, worms, roots, and water goes through very slowly. They cleared trees on the ground. There is a reason there were trees - and not even those change the underground much. After they cut them down, the ground turned hard and compacted despite the rain, and then they mulched it for 2 years, plus 2 years of gardening with intense soil care and adding compost.
Others with not quite as bad clay soil and less rain have seen some improvements with the no dig top down approach, but it does not work for her, and most gardners see some improvement after year 2. So it could take 10 years before the top layer is so high and has such a water holding capacity that life can exist in the deeper layers and some air and soil organisms might be able to exist in the border zone - without being drowned (= no oxygen) on a regular base.
Happy accident from a woman in Iowa. wood chips (pine, coarse) in clear bags, organic chips were hard to get, so she bought more than she needed and stored them outside. Rain got into it and the sun - and they broke down in 2 months, that is fast for any compost, let alone wood chips.
That was in Iwoa - lots of sun in the summer (clear bags) but also good rain. I think if you can get your hand on woodchips that could be a way to produce lots of fluffy substrate fast. In that case the fungi that processed the chips did not temporarily bind nitrogen - from soil that is (maybe they can do w/o or they even draw nitrogen from the air. That is a lot of hassle for organisms (or humans, not easy to get the nitrogen, needs a lot of energy), so it is possible that as long as there is nitrogen in surrounding soil it becomes the go to source, and the fung doing that, win the race in the soil.
I would inoculate the bags with some rotten down wood (or water where it was soaked).
the only input was water, likely some air, and lots of energy in form of heat. And the clear bag as reactor.
That would provide you with lots of substrate to mix into your silt, and while it is not very fertile (minerals and nutrients) it is at least already broken down and provides the sturcture, the pores, the water retention, the space of bacetria, fungi, air, worms ...
Clay, silt is rich in minerals (such soils once they are transformed are excellent), and nitrogen is not that hard to fix.
“ its kinda been, win, win, win, win, win!”
What kind of mulch is that and where do they get it. I live in NE FL and am struggling with getting mulch.
Sign up for chip drop and/or call your power company. Your city or county may have it also.
Good job 👍 looks beautiful
Amazing , I learned so much, Thank you.
Glacier deposited sand in Florida?
I once came across a video documentary that was about how china is reclaiming desert land by planting trees. The ground there is also desert sand. They had to come up with a whole new system. Their key to success was an additive that they added to the desert sand that made it water proof. So the sand remains sand like except for the fact that it holds the water so they were able to start drip irrigation as well as liquid fertilizer. The trees that they planted would then shed a lot of leaves and sticks and this plant matter would then start a natural nutrient cycle. Ending up with reclaimed desert land where research has shown that the man made forests are also changing the weather in that there is more rainfall where the reclaimed land is reestablished.
South america is about to find out first hand how such a desert comes about and how their actions today are going to change not only the landscape but also the weather. Deforestation =Depopulation, just ask the Ethiopian people as well as the ancient Chinese and the extinct peoples that were running around the Sahara forests, then grasslands and finally desert. . .
We sheeple really have to wake up some time, pull ourselves towards ourselves and start to actually do what is expected from us as the "top of the food chain" organisms of this planet. .
Preferably before The Universe decides to choose someone else to do it.
Stewardship is our purpose.
Pray
TGC
Blessings in abundance :)
Woods up! Whats Growin on!! HAHAHAHA I LOVE THAT
I have an interest in knowing the type of sweet potato that he mentioned toward the beginning of this video. Sounded like Pine On 64 ???? Thanks !!!
For the record, I don't give a shit about the heat, sweet potatoes, raised beds, tarrow, potato leaves, etc.,etc., ......came here for "growing corn in sand", corn in sand, corn in sand...............corn.......in..........sand......... 🌽......sand.....corn.......23 of these......corn.....
What's growing on
Yeah you just got a new sub
Thanks 🤩
Great timing, growing slips right now. Thanks!
Awesome 😎
Pete Kanaris GreenDreamsFL ...Pete, could you plz tell me the name of those sweet potatoes again? Something ..66? Thanks so much, great vid!
you may want to check out early findhorn garden info re growing things in sand
Thank you for another awesome and informative video!
very very informative videos....Love your enthousiasm, and thanks for sharing all this info :) Great job !
Thanks 😊
Thank you so much!!!
Many thanks for the info!
What is the "mulch" he is using? Looks like some kind of straw or grass. I am also on the Lake Wales Ridge not far away and would love to find a good source. I have been using leaves and composted horse manure but need something like that that will cover lightly and airy and keep the top of the soil cooler and hold moisture. When the sun hits the sandy soil around here it gets really hot and dries out fast
What is that thing that looks like hay? On soil where he plants sweet potatoes?
Awesome video😊
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for this so nice content.
Amazing info! Thank u
PERFECT PLACE TO EXPERIMENT WITH REPRODUCING TERA PRETA SITES .with a broken pot base biochar etc etc.