Same TENT….but different. Premium v Budget materials
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In this video I compare 2 of the new camping tents from Terra Nova Equipment. The Wild country panacea 2 and the Terra Nova Northern Lite 2. But are identical in design but the materials and specifications are quite different. But does that matter?
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0:00 Comparing 2 wild camping tents
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Nice break down of two tents side by side. We don't get enough of these close up videos showing the features and details of tents.
I love that more brands are going for the zip in the bottom corner like MSR, it's one of those little things that makes a difference to the livability of a tent.
Agreed. Good comparison.
Love the Northern lite 2 but Terra Nova are out of stock at present. But today I looked on line and Outdoor in Hathersage had two in stock with the same 20% off. I nipped up and bagged one. I've ordered a Panacea footprint as it's identical to the Northern lite one. I think this will be my dream tent. Great review.
Hmmm I have to say, this tent look super solid!
I think its probably the best 1-2 person Terra nova tent (Southern Cross 2 is overpriced and not worth the money in my opinion, Pioneer is good but not as solid). I sold my Helm 2 as its was a bit bulky to carry, 3kg with footprint and a bit too much for few days backpacking trips but this Northern Lite 2 is really cool! The fact that you can also use trekking poles to make it proper boom proof - love it!
I got Luxe Hex Peak v4a tipi for solo just now as its much cheaper as well but maybe one day will get this Terra Nova tent to use with my daughter as well etc if I can ever afford buying and justify keeping long term lol
I actually like it better then any other Helleberg or Durston X-Mid 1/2.
Good to see the two tents side by side compared. Thanks Paul. 👍
Good to see you got the comments back ,Paul❤
I prefer a yellow inner over white.
Brilliant, no nonsense video as usual Paul. Straight to the main features to help decision making.
Thank you so much for this video. As someone who is just getting into camping, having this comparison of why TN are pricier is really helpful. I’ve got a Helm 1 and a Helm 3 and love them. At the moment, I fall into the “weekend warrior” camp and so Wild Country is perfectly good enough for my needs, probably better than I need!
Your explanation allows me to understand the differences - if you know anything about road bikes, it sounds like the difference between 105 and Dura Ace and I’m definitely a 105 guy!
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I finally got a big boy tent and you can definitely feel the difference in materials. Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 Bikepacking tent was $150 off at REI right now. I had a naturehike before this. Still a good tent though.
Thank you for showing us. Looking forward to your next Videos! Keep going and have fun!!!
Great video Paul, I was looking at these tents, but i ended up ordering the older Wild Country Helm 2 compact, got a great deal including the footprint. If the Helm 2 turns out to be too small, i don't think it will, then i'll look at one of these palaces.
The Northern Lite is £290 dearer so I would go for the Panacea.
Thanks Paul for about the only reviews online so far. I've a Helm2 Compact, but being a big guy (nearly 6ft3) whilst I could fit inside no problems, I found the doors to be a little small and the venting lacking a bit, to the point I'd use a tarp over the Helm so I could leave the tops of the doors open on wet nights. I took a look at the Panacea 2 in a shop at the weekend and it addresses those shortfalls, along with a lot larger vestibule area. I ordered one and it arrived today, I suspect that they will be out of stock soon!
Russell, I'm in same position - sold my Helm 2 for pretty much the same reason, very small / low doors and a right pain when setting up your bed etc. Have you got your yet, and what's your verdict?
@@steviesteve750 it's arrived, haven't had chance to use it yet, possibly next weekend. In the meantime I've obtained the footprint for it, thought it best to jump early as the Helm 2 one was a bugger to get hold of. The store I bought it from had a Helm 2 next to it on display so I was able to do a proper like-for-like. In summary by doing away with the second pole needing to connect to the ground on the Helm2 , its allowed them to alter the porch area I guessed based on "I wish it did this type feedback" One thing that I noticed on inspection is that the knuckle joints on the pole have a hole on one side so that they could tie the elastic cord inside the pole sections, this means you should be careful putting the poles together so that the knuckles in the poles face down to stop any water collecting in them.
The panacea is a great little low level summer basecamp tent on an budget, good vestibule and head space and it opens up nicely in summer for good ventilations and views.
Great video. Thanks.
as ever Paul a brill review hats off sir classssssssssssssssssssss
Really useful and informative video. Thanks Paul!
Paul. Good trick with the tent poles.shame we can't get these tents in Australia
This is great, thanks so much Paul!
Thanks great video as always 😊
Quality video mate, absolutely love your stuff 👍
Just the review I needed, Paul.
These two tents, along with the Southern Cross 2 and Helm Compact 2 are on my shortlist.
Now which 'style' to go for?
Decisions, decisions...
Is there a possibility of hanging a washing line inside the inner tent of the Panacea 2. Any loops or string to tie some rope to?
Comments back on, good. Important to connect with viewers. Thick skin needed 😀
Could you please do a budget tent for under £100. As money is tight for everyone at the moment. Thanks
Do you have to use a trekking pole?
What's your comfiest air mat. I have a descent light weight high R rated air mat but it's not comfy. Where weight isn't an issue, what would you take?
With your 20% discount the Northern Lite is a no brainer. I just have to finish the bathroom first before I pull the trigger on one. 😅😅
I prefer a yellow inner.
Problem with Terra Nova tents is their availability... they always out of stock, footprints not available.. Helm Compact 2 out of stock for about 2 years now. I can buy it elsewhere, but footprint at least should be accessible on producer web site.
The no rain gutter down the zip is a big pain in the arse, the rain pisses in when you open it.
Considering between this and the southern cross 2. Is rain ingress a big really that bad on the NL2 at the doors when opening? A big put off of it is.
Very interesting nice to see the comparison and good detailed explanation of the products thank you 😊
Another great informative video. Thank you Paul
Hi Paul great breakdown cheers for sharing. Watched a while a go, revisited as I'm looking at tents again as we head closer to xmas. I am looking to purchase a wild Country/terranova tent with my main priority being stability in wind and rain. The 2 tents I can justify buying at present are the pioneer 2 and the Panacea 2. Noted difference in price, weight, materials and size. I know the Panacea can incorporate trekking poles to aid stability (and doubling up on poles). Just wondering if anyone has experience with both and know if either would fair better in 40 mph winds. Cheers chris
I’ve not used the pioneer. The panacea is very robust with the trekking poles but it is a bit heavy and bulky.
Thank you Paul! 👍
I'm thinking of selling my helm 2 and replacing it with the panacea, weight not an issue, but what is the pack size comparison excluding poles, as they go in a separate pocket.
Was wondering if I could use the walking pole trick with my Nature hike Mongar 2 which has a similar pole layout, just tried it and it works not perfect but significantly more rigid. Useful if an unexpected storm blows up.
Was wondering if could do on the MSR Elixir 2.
Thanks Paul, great video!
Was just wondering if you know what can be done when a tent fly goes “sticky”?
I have a Terra Nova tent that I bought about 5 years ago and have only used a handful of times. I dug it out to use at the weekend and the fly was stuck to itself and I had to almost rip it apart. Terra Nova said nothing can be done & they can’t replace it because it is a discontinued pattern. I can’t believe I spent so much money on a tent that is actually expected to degrade.
Do you happen to know if there is any way of re-proofing/repairing it?
Any advice much appreciated.
Odd that. They can last decades usually. Maybe it got covered in tree resin during a camp and caused that. Stick it in a bucket with some reproofer after giving it a soak in some Nikwax cleaner
You may not have dried it out properly, sill Nylon absorbs water a lot and it takes a fair bit of drying out. Leaving a damp tent in a tight storage bag will run it. Even if you think its dry it sometimes isn't with Nylon. Stick any tent on the washing line for a day after use and even chuck it in the spare room loose for a few days too just to be extra sure its bone dry on pack up.
keep up the good works
Hi Paul. Do you think for occasional 2 person use they are big enough for 2?
Yes
Cheers Paul
i think 20d fly is a bit too thin for a 4 season tent..
People camp in the winter in nothing but a tarp, im sure that will be fine
Who needs a Terra Nova tent at £630 when the Chinese version costs £130, how many people actually go camping in storms? Sure the materials are better quality but not £500 pounds worth of better quality. I feel it’s disingenuous to tell people otherwise. If Terra Nova didn’t realise their tents were overpriced they wouldn’t have released a cheaper version of their own tent to compete with Naturehike.
The reason is there is a difference. For many of us, the cheaper is fine, but for many the more expensive makes all the difference. Horses for courses. It comes down each of us if the price is worth the difference
Q! We’re the dog?
Get some camping done man 😂
What a pity the doors don't have zips on both sides!
I have been following you for a year or so, All you have become is an advert, for this and that, If you are going to do that at least go camping instead of field with your product promotions and tell us how they have stood up to the conditions of camping.
Bit of an irrational comment. why so demanding. He's not on a beck and call for viewer's . His channel His terms , the way it should be.
You mean when he took it out in the snow two videos ago?
It’s a free video stop complaining.
Doesn’t sound like you’ve been following very closely.
Paul took a Panacea tent out in some pretty nasty weather, in the mtns, just 1-2 video's ago. And I think Paul is pretty honest, even if sponsored.