The sheer glee of the fandom every time something gets canceled or somebody gets fired should tell disney everything they need to know. Meanwhile they spend god knows how much employing hordes of demographic analysts and representation specialists to figure out why all their projects are failing... WE'RE RIGHT HERE. LISTEN TO US, NO CHARGE.
It does tell them everything they need to know. It tells them the fandom is toxic, racist and sexist. Since that’s all they’re capable of reading from the room, that’s all they can take away from people’s reactions.
It's so fkn beautiful.. like 10 minutes into The Farce Awakens, my chest started hurting. Seriously. I pirated TLJ on Fire Stick.. and still haven't seen Rise of Palpatine - I never liked Infinity War. That's when I knew the MCU was in trouble. Then Endgame was the last time Disney ever counted my ticket money. - side note is the NBA has steadily gone to bleep 💩 ever since ESPN/ABC (Disney) acquired TV rights. Ratings are awful
@Snuse Mcgoose Not only is the NBA woke. (I say Disneyfied), but like 15 years ago NBA HQ changed rules legislating physicality out. (Soft). Changed rules allowing traveling/carrying. And Modern players practice shooting 3s.. and every game is nonstop 3 point jacking (bricks)
Great Open Bar. Always enjoy seeing Nerdrotic on. The Victoria Alonso situation gets crazier each day, since now shes suing Disney and claiming they tried to make her do something 'reprehensible'. Of course she didn't state what it is, so shes probably lying as well.
Standard activist grifting behaviour. Just the claim of a "wrongdoing" is enough to get the wokists all riled up and launch another cancel round, so it will be easier for a company to buy off the accuser.
@@sowgatg1836 True, but a lot of judges these days are very susceptible to the "you just can't fire a minority" card Victoria Alonso plays. Notice that she doesn't even address the "breach of contract" argument Disney makes, because she knows that's a valid reason for her firing. Instead, she plays the "look at how cruel they are firing poor little minority me" card, as if that is the reason for her firing.
1:01:35 this tiny blink and you miss it exchange between drinker and mauler is golden.. Had me in stitches. As great as the gusts are it might be nice just to have a stream with drinker and mauler, they play off each other so well.
@@nightprowler1 The characters are lost. I can't take Thor or Dr. Strange serious anymore because of the damage they have done to them it needs a proper reboot😊
People like Nerdrotic should be the ones who are working on bringing comic book stories to the big screen. Not these nonce’s who have never once bought a comic book in their lives. Disney, you fuct up. Just admit it and get the right people on the job.
as a former vfx artist i 100% can guarantee u thats wat life is like....if more movies were in pre-production longer and clearer definite decisions were made before you get to vfx it would cost less money and less time
I know some Disney executives. If you think they've learned ANY lessons from this ongoing debacle, no, they have not. They're going to double down on what they've been doing--because they don't know how to do anything else.
I call that, 'The Opposite Corporate Manager Syndrome'. If it's THEIR idea, or if they steal someone else's idea as their own, no matter how much it fails they are going to stick to that course. The only way to cure such, FIRE THEM. It's happened before, and it's WAY OVERDUE at Disney.
@@theequalizer9154 But what happens if the people with the power to fire ARE THE PROBLEM? You're committing the "Wise Chief Fallacy", which assumes that somewhere at the top is a wise person with the power to set things right. What if it's woke lunatics all the way to the top? That's Disney and it's why they're doomed.
Mauler really set drinker straight on the Mortal Kombat narrative. Mauler is right, the MK games have a pretty awesome story imo. Especially the newer trilogy of mk 9-11
As much as Samual L Jackson was is cool as Nick Fury, imagine how cool a Josh Brolin as Nick Fury MCU would have been. He could have still played Thanos as one role is live action acting and the other motion capture voice acting.
it's time for me to list my favorite RUclips Channels: 1. The Critical Drinker 2. Thinking Critical (The best comic books channel on any social media especially RUclips) 3. Nerdrotic 4 Midnight's Edge 5 YoungRippa 6. YeelowFlash 2 7. Clownfish TV 8. The TV Show Quiz Channel (TSQC) Great job done by these channels. I'd also like to say, I may not agree with all the opinions of these RUclips Channels, but I think these channels have great content and I respect their opinions. Keep up the great work, and I'll keep watching. Ed G.
I'm pumped for RoTK screening in a couple of weeks. My GF took me to see Fellowship with Howard Shore & the live score @ Radio City and it was the best thing I've seen on the big screen in ages.
I can't wait for the take you guys will have on Disney truly outdoing themselves with extending the Multiverse to our Earth's iteration of the villainous Jonathan Majors, aka Kang. Their scrip took a turn no one expected.
18:37 I've been saying that since Endgames release. Why the hell did we get Captian Marvel saving the day instead of World Breaker Hulk saving the day??? Mind blowing that Marvel thought we wanted STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN saving the MCU from Thanos instead of having Hulk go World Breaker and Thor unleashing the Odin-Force. Absolutely mind-boggling!
Holy shit they fired Victoria Alonso? I genuinely thought they'd never dare, looking at Kathleen Kennedy and how untouchable she's been even after sinking a franchise that cost Disney $4B to buy. Imagine how utterly toxic she must be for this to happen.
Imagine going to school for a graphic artist degree, grinding, learning, slowly improving your craft, missed weekends with the friends, the stress of failure. Then getting hired by Disney. Getting hired by disney.
Still a good job regardless they will pay well and that's really what anyone cares about, they only care about their art after they're taking care off finacally lol
A good few years ago I was afraid that Disney would use the MCU and Star Wars to dominate/suffocate the film industry just indefinitely. I'm happy we've avoided that timeline.
What's sad with the mention of black panther is that Chadwick and his family knew he was down for a recast for his character if shit went down for him. Which it did.
People in the 80s, 90s and 2000s were more idealistic and hopeful, hence why movies, while they could be dark and cynical sometimes, they ended up having idealistic endings filled with hope.
As much as I enjoy watching and reading about Hollywood failing at every turn, I hate the fact that our entertainment has become so terrible. And who knows how long it'll take to get quality shit again.
2:45:59 I forgot her name (Alison, maybe?) but Miranda Otto's character is the fifth season of Homeland. I was furious when they killed her off unceremoniously and needlessly at the end, that character had a lot of potential and Miranda was brilliant as always, she's an underrated actress.
I liked for the first 4½ episodes of Last of Us but then I gradually lost interest. Making Joel an emotional tool kind of sealed it for me. The actress playing Ellie reminds me of Rocky Denison so I just can't get into her . Mean but that's how I feel
Agreed, I lost interest in the show the moment that I saw how they portrayed Joel's character. It felt like they had replaced Part 1 Joel with Part 2's character. I know MauLer doesn't agree with that interpretation, but I think he's very biased towards this series. I've noticed he gets rather defensive whenever anyone criticizes it.
Shoutout to the guy shouting out One Piece. Definitely a commitment to read (though is still much faster than watching), but it is probably one of the best stories of our time, even over Wheel of Time, which is tough for me to admit. It's not flawless, but i'd say it's worth the time investment by far. Added bonus, the One Piece youtube sphere is full of some awesome people, and could make for some great collabs down the road.
@@sarov7658 The live production might end up surprising us. Seems the crew mostly cares about the story, so it's got a chance, at least. Still a netflix anime adaptation, so the curse is there..
@Critical Drinker: Could you set the stream to "unlisted" instead of "private" after you finish your streams? ...I was halfway through the stream on Thursday before getting kicked off
Is this the first time Tom and Gary have been on stream together? I like them both a lot but I always assumed that there was some unspoken animosity for each other. Anyway more of them please this is awesome!
On the other hand, I'm looking forward for the growing Clone Rebellion to rise up against the Empire in Bad Batch Season 2. Even though it would be forgone conclusion as Old Man Rex, Wolffe and Gregor appear in Star Wars Rebels as the remaining Clones left in existence.
@ 41:00 (ish) Not only do we not have movie stars or directors who are box office draws, we also do not have too many actors and actresses who are capable of playing anyone other than themselves while on camera. Anya Taylor-Joy, Lupita Nyong'o, and Adam Driver are incredibly talented, but we do not have many other men and women ready to fill the shoes of an Anthony Hopkins, Cate Blanchett, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks (in his prime), Meryl Streep, Morgan Freemen, or anyone else who actually have range.
The older generation is getting older and younger generation is not on the same level. Some are VERY talented but not on the the same bridge as the older actors.
I really would like to see some of these actors and actresses being wasted in DC and MCU get good scripts and movies, to show whether or not they really can act. Robert Pattinson is great; he was just given shit in Twilight.
Gonna paint our wagon Gonna paint it good We ain't braggin' We're gonna coat that wood. There Gonna paint that wagon There Gonna paint it good They aint Braggin' There gonna coat that wood Gonna paint your wagon Gonna paint it fine Gonna use oil-based paint 'cos the wood is pine.
Gary’s absolutely correct about Geoff Johns. His 2000s Hal Jordan Green Lantern run was one of the most glorious eras in comics. Especially Blackest Night.
Marvel peaked at civil war. Ragnarok, and Guardians 2 were fun but formulaic. And infinity war and endgame should have been the end of it. To quote Bane, “victory has defeated you” Disney was so assured of their success that they greenlit shit, and rather than taking a hiatus to plan for what comes next, they pumped out material in phase 4 than the previous 3 phases combined. The DCEU was always a shallow cashin on marvel’s success. It’s been a day late and a dollar short for years now. They didnt even have the balls to own Snyder’s signature brooding tone, potentially refining it into something of its own, no they decided to try and steal the quippy dialogue, cheerier atmosphere and tone deaf jokes that plagued the mcu post civil war. What goes up must come down, Seinfeld understood this. If only the vampires in hollywood could. Instead though they’ll bleed the franchises dry, and when there’s not a drop left, they’ll spend years trying to reanimate the corpse
32:00 If he's going to make the argument that most people haven't played the Mortal Combat games, then he has to accept the same argument for book and comic adaptations.
The superhero is not the suit. It is not a mantle to be exchanged with another. It is the character that first inhabited the suit. Falcon will NEVER be Captain America to me; Captain America IS Steve Rogers. Ironheart will NEVER be a replacement for Iron Man; Iron Man IS Tony Stark. Black Widow IS Natasha Romanoff and she permanently died on Vormir and absolutely cannot be replaced by some blonde discount replacement. Spider-Man is Peter Parker. Miles Morales is just Miles Morales, not Spider-Man. Same goes for any other character they try to create a replacement for. Woke or not, I will not support these replacements. Give us the originals, not these knockoff fakes.
On the discussion on videogame adaptations around 30:00, I think that it's a difficult juggle that needs to happen: make it different to adapt to the different medium but not as different as to lose the essence of the characters and the story and the background mythos, then make the characters clear and compelling, make the story work with the characters, get enough capital to finance the movie in order to make justice to such story. It's not going to be the same as experiencing a game but that's not what we fans are looking for as much as a comic book fan isn't expecting the same experience when they started to make good comic book movies; the same principles apply, and it's a perfect storm of good stuff that needs to happen in order for the adaptations to work.
Listen Falcon is a cool character but damn when I thought of it for a second. Falcon never got any serum. So he isn't super strong like Steve Rodgers. It just isn't the same without the serum.
I still don’t get why they didn’t just adapt the Rogue Squadron stuff by Stackpole. Heck, even the Mara Jade comic by Stackpole and Zahan would have been better as a TV show than Bobba Fett or Obi Wan. 🙄
As a child who grew up on Willow for my fix of high fantasy, I could t have been more disappointed in the show. A single line of enjoyment where Willow recounts wether or not he was able to change ALL of the Galladorn army back into humans after they were changed into pigs, all while they spoon at their pork stew. I usually don’t care for reboots, but a Peter Dinklage led Willow reboot, without THE MESSAGE, would (hopefully) be enjoyable. Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth as Madmartigan. Helen Miran and Tilda Swinton as Razel and Bavmorda, I don’t care who plays which witch. Louis CK and Bill Burr as Roul and Franjean. Forgive my questionable fantasy spelling.
Regarding Chris Gore's comment; lesbian weed farmers armed with flamethrowers pitted against nazi zombies could be an indie movie that might just work.
She deserved to be fired. Though,admittedly, it wasn't All her fault. Disney's Executives are also to blame for being Out of Touch and Wasting the Infinite Potential that is Disney.
Will always "privates" the stream shortly after it is finished; usually he will wait a few hours but with this one it was about 15mins after he finished the stream on Thursday. He does this so he can reupload the topic clips in a 15-20min video format. After he has releases all 4 topic clips, he then reuploads the full stream. I am not sure if there are any edits to the full stream reupload. I suspect not.
@@2percentright did you watch the stream or the reupload? For open bar 41 he privated the stream sometime on Thursday then reuploaded the VOD on Monday. For 42 he reuploaded on Sunday (today).
Its not superhero fatigue, it's just that the novelty has run out just like the 3D animated movies back in the 2000s. Now they actually have to make good movies again...
@Alex M - Apm Yeah I was surprised to see Tom and Gary streaming together. I thought they had a falling out. Like Gary and Doomcock. Glad it isn't the case.
Star Wars isn't the story if Luke, Knights of the Old Republic demonstrated it 20 years ago. It's set 4000 years before the movies, it doesn't impact them at all, yet it's still regarded as one of the best Star Wars stories, alongside its sequel. Star Wars is about emotions, light vs dark, good vs evil. You can make pretty much anything with that. It's just that Disney cannot infuse their shows and movies with emotions and passion to save their life.
1:51:53 That's not even correct, even The Force Awakens ditched its original screenwriter, Michael Arndt. It's actually pretty telling that the only Disney SW film that had a smooth production was the one that ended up tearing the franchise apart.
The sheer glee of the fandom every time something gets canceled or somebody gets fired should tell disney everything they need to know. Meanwhile they spend god knows how much employing hordes of demographic analysts and representation specialists to figure out why all their projects are failing... WE'RE RIGHT HERE. LISTEN TO US, NO CHARGE.
You're the wrong skin color, sexual orientation, and gender to have any opinion worth listening to.
@@james3876 You are correct. However, money is still green.
im loving watching it burn down
Natural backlash after years of being called every -ist under the sun and treated like shit by them. You go against your customers, you lose.
It does tell them everything they need to know. It tells them the fandom is toxic, racist and sexist. Since that’s all they’re capable of reading from the room, that’s all they can take away from people’s reactions.
Disney is really taking a pummeling of late.
They deserve every bit of it.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Let's not celebrate too early, they will tear down everything they can reach in their thrashing death throws should they look close to failure.
They get what they deserve
The ghost of Walt Disney seems to be haunting them. 👻 They need to appease his spirit, or things will only get worse.
@@chasehedges6775 how about another joke Dis-ney?
Watching the destruction of Disney is a beautiful thing. It looks like the money and patience has finally run out for the ideologues
It's so fkn beautiful.. like 10 minutes into The Farce Awakens, my chest started hurting. Seriously. I pirated TLJ on Fire Stick.. and still haven't seen Rise of Palpatine
- I never liked Infinity War. That's when I knew the MCU was in trouble. Then Endgame was the last time Disney ever counted my ticket money.
- side note is the NBA has steadily gone to bleep 💩 ever since ESPN/ABC (Disney) acquired TV rights. Ratings are awful
@Ken S. And it's no surprise the baseball world series broke records last week for viewership because they're don't Want to watch the woke NFL or NBA
@Snuse Mcgoose Not only is the NBA woke. (I say Disneyfied), but like 15 years ago NBA HQ changed rules legislating physicality out. (Soft).
Changed rules allowing traveling/carrying.
And Modern players practice shooting 3s.. and every game is nonstop 3 point jacking (bricks)
"Watching the destruction of Disney is a beautiful thing" ... And it makes us happy! 🤣😍
Well get woke go broke,I guess. 🤷♂️
Falcon throwing his shield as Captain America makes me think of Random Task throwing his shoe in Austin Powers.
Memo to Disney:
Those who live by identity politics usually end up destroyed by identity politics.
Once you take the Woke Path, Forever it will dominate you Financially.
It's like in War Games.
The only winning move is not to play.
@@Donnerbalken28 “Sometimes when you win, you lose”
- Robin Williams, What Dreams May Come(1997/98)
Empty pandering isn't winning anyone over. We know Disney is as capitalist as they come.
Be careful what you wish for😰
Great Open Bar. Always enjoy seeing Nerdrotic on.
The Victoria Alonso situation gets crazier each day, since now shes suing Disney and claiming they tried to make her do something 'reprehensible'. Of course she didn't state what it is, so shes probably lying as well.
Standard activist grifting behaviour. Just the claim of a "wrongdoing" is enough to get the wokists all riled up and launch another cancel round, so it will be easier for a company to buy off the accuser.
"so shes probably lying as well" wouldn't be so sure mate
Does she realize she is fighting disney the copy right lawyers are serious business and not someone u can beat easily
@@sowgatg1836 True, but a lot of judges these days are very susceptible to the "you just can't fire a minority" card Victoria Alonso plays.
Notice that she doesn't even address the "breach of contract" argument Disney makes, because she knows that's a valid reason for her firing. Instead, she plays the "look at how cruel they are firing poor little minority me" card, as if that is the reason for her firing.
She's probably not
Disney is like those aquarium fish that eats all the smaller fish before going belly-up. Been struggling with digestion for some time now.
The woke piranha is now starving for $$$🥺
In the end, the bugs and amoeba are the last ones standing
One of the most idiotic things Rian did in TLJ was NOT having Han’s death motivate Luke to immediately rejoin the fight. Utterly inexplicable
LAZY WRITING!
They should animate their drama at Disney and make that a movie.
I’d watch that, tbh. Seeing Disney fall is a story worthy of an animated movie or documentary.
Very mature audiences required🤯😲
Better yet let someone else make the money and fun of them
In the puppet stylings of Team America.
And it's gonna win an Oscar for sure
Remember when The Rock used to play as the Toothfairy?
Pepperridge Farm remembers.
I would watch Hannibal adaptation with rock as tootfairy
That always felt like a sort of shaming ritual for the rock.
I can always get behind that.
1:01:35 this tiny blink and you miss it exchange between drinker and mauler is golden.. Had me in stitches. As great as the gusts are it might be nice just to have a stream with drinker and mauler, they play off each other so well.
Victoria Alonso: "If I can't have MCU.... *THEN NO ONE WILL!"*
Still, nothing of value is lost...
@@nightprowler1 Nope. Nothing was lost except Disneys former awesomeness
i’m 💀
@@nightprowler1 The characters are lost. I can't take Thor or Dr. Strange serious anymore because of the damage they have done to them it needs a proper reboot😊
@@Darkstar_Dayne I feel bad for Chis Hemsworth and Benedict Cumberpatch
This line up was great the topics were awesome and the quality of analysis of the 4 of you was fantastic
People like Nerdrotic should be the ones who are working on bringing comic book stories to the big screen. Not these nonce’s who have never once bought a comic book in their lives. Disney, you fuct up. Just admit it and get the right people on the job.
This is the dream team! Amazing panel.
I like Tom.
@@hamdinger7145 I miss him on Friday Night Tights.
This really was one of the best line-ups.
Proper chill and insightful conversation.
We need this line-up on a regular basis, even if it's just a monthly thing
as a former vfx artist i 100% can guarantee u thats wat life is like....if more movies were in pre-production longer and clearer definite decisions were made before you get to vfx it would cost less money and less time
Thank you for keeping away the sound of my own thoughts this Sunday morning
She-Hulk didn't "Jump the Shark", it JUMPED in it's waiting Jaws!
What will finally panic Disney? Universal theme park attendance soars.
This whole thing is more entertaining than anything they put out in years.
Indeed.
Actual drama in a GoT setting☠
I missed the original stream and I've been waiting since Thursday for this. Can't wait!
I know some Disney executives.
If you think they've learned ANY lessons from this ongoing debacle, no, they have not. They're going to double down on what they've been doing--because they don't know how to do anything else.
I call that, 'The Opposite Corporate Manager Syndrome'. If it's THEIR idea, or if they steal someone else's idea as their own, no matter how much it fails they are going to stick to that course.
The only way to cure such, FIRE THEM. It's happened before, and it's WAY OVERDUE at Disney.
@@theequalizer9154 This is the way...
@@theequalizer9154 But what happens if the people with the power to fire ARE THE PROBLEM? You're committing the "Wise Chief Fallacy", which assumes that somewhere at the top is a wise person with the power to set things right. What if it's woke lunatics all the way to the top? That's Disney and it's why they're doomed.
Mauler really set drinker straight on the Mortal Kombat narrative. Mauler is right, the MK games have a pretty awesome story imo. Especially the newer trilogy of mk 9-11
Can a game as one dimensional as that have a "story"? It's a fighting game. They always just seemed like random cutscenes to me. But what do I know
As much as Samual L Jackson was is cool as Nick Fury, imagine how cool a Josh Brolin as Nick Fury MCU would have been. He could have still played Thanos as one role is live action acting and the other motion capture voice acting.
The 1998 Nick Fury movie had David Hasselhoff as Fury. Movie kind of sucked, but Hasselhoff was good as Nick Fury.
@@Mister-Six David Hasslehoff and Samuel L. Jackson in a movie would be EPIC
Have Samuel L Jackson play Thanos.
“Where is the soul stone Gamora?”
“Idk”
“Do I look like a bitch? Then why you tryna fuck me like a bitch?”
it's time for me to list my favorite RUclips Channels:
1. The Critical Drinker
2. Thinking Critical (The best comic books channel on any social media especially RUclips)
3. Nerdrotic
4 Midnight's Edge
5 YoungRippa
6. YeelowFlash 2
7. Clownfish TV
8. The TV Show Quiz Channel (TSQC)
Great job done by these channels. I'd also like to say, I may not agree with all the opinions of these RUclips Channels, but I think these channels have great content and I respect their opinions. Keep up the great work, and I'll keep watching. Ed G.
How about Overlord/ Lord Doomcock? Hypnotic is an ip and comer.
Nostalgia Critic is pretty good, honestly
Geeks/gamers too .but that aside I'm currently liking japanese cuisine channels for some reason they are crazy good with knives
I'm pumped for RoTK screening in a couple of weeks. My GF took me to see Fellowship with Howard Shore & the live score @ Radio City and it was the best thing I've seen on the big screen in ages.
I can't wait for the take you guys will have on Disney truly outdoing themselves with extending the Multiverse to our Earth's iteration of the villainous Jonathan Majors, aka Kang. Their scrip took a turn no one expected.
Go into it say "yeah kangs scary isn't he?!"
The entire plot of the latest Ant-Man movie was almost identical to Tron: Legacy
@@Memememe-is1yn Tron Legacy>Ant Man 3
@@Memememe-is1yn I too watch Little Platoon
18:37 I've been saying that since Endgames release. Why the hell did we get Captian Marvel saving the day instead of World Breaker Hulk saving the day??? Mind blowing that Marvel thought we wanted STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN saving the MCU from Thanos instead of having Hulk go World Breaker and Thor unleashing the Odin-Force. Absolutely mind-boggling!
What? What do you mean Captian Marvel saving the day? Tony saved the day
Holy shit they fired Victoria Alonso? I genuinely thought they'd never dare, looking at Kathleen Kennedy and how untouchable she's been even after sinking a franchise that cost Disney $4B to buy. Imagine how utterly toxic she must be for this to happen.
Loved the Farscape reference. Best show ever. The finale of season 2 is the ultimate cliffhanger. Level of Beat of the Both Worlds
Imagine going to school for a graphic artist degree, grinding, learning, slowly improving your craft, missed weekends with the friends, the stress of failure. Then getting hired by Disney. Getting hired by disney.
Still a good job regardless they will pay well and that's really what anyone cares about, they only care about their art after they're taking care off finacally lol
What will Marvel do now that Jonathan Majors has been caught throwing hands for real?
He just needs to come out as gender fluid or identify as a woman and he'll be fine.
They'll never acknowledge that and he'll continue to appear in movies just like Ezra Miller
Do they address it in this open bar
Jonathan Majors is not going to get a pass like Ezra Miller. Ezra Miller has the sexual preferences pass. Jonathan Majors, he does not.
@@theequalizer9154ut he is black and currently that still tops the alphabet
This was a really great open bar. Great talking points from each of you and I felt that no subject was lingered on for too long.
And on top of it all Jonathan Majors may become the MCU's Ezra Miller. 😬
Sounds like he was just following the advice of the late, great Sean Connery with regards to women.
Doubtful
@@johns.1854what did Sean do?
@@remyd8767 he said on a live interview that he thinks it’s ok to smack a chick if she’s getting outta hand(paraphrasing). The man was an inspiration.
@@thechicagobox Ohh man this is funny as hell BUT it can really destroy your life😂😂
A good few years ago I was afraid that Disney would use the MCU and Star Wars to dominate/suffocate the film industry just indefinitely. I'm happy we've avoided that timeline.
They kinda succeeded and failed simultaneously at both
What's sad with the mention of black panther is that Chadwick and his family knew he was down for a recast for his character if shit went down for him. Which it did.
Yep pure evil using a ded guy as a pr material disney looks colorful on outside but full of the most vile ppl you kno on earth
Tom Connors is wrong about The original Addams Family outlasting the original Munsters. Both were cancelled after two seasons, and both had a Special.
“Unless I croak I’m going to be seeing it in my lifetime.”
-Nerdrotic, Open Bar, 2023.
Reports of Majors not being a nice person is the nail in the coffin for me
If he is guilty and he doesn't get fired, it means Disney considers worse to have different opinions than assaulting a woman
Ezra Miller. Enough said.
Will Smith also counts
@@chasehedges6775 Let us NOT forget Will Smith's adulterous wife. She does NOT get a pass, because she is a female.
@@theequalizer9154 Don’t like Jada anyways
how long has Gary had a starfleet Com badge on his Mic? I never noticed that before
People in the 80s, 90s and 2000s were more idealistic and hopeful, hence why movies, while they could be dark and cynical sometimes, they ended up having idealistic endings filled with hope.
As much as I enjoy watching and reading about Hollywood failing at every turn, I hate the fact that our entertainment has become so terrible. And who knows how long it'll take to get quality shit again.
I'm pretty sure that's an oxymoron.
2:45:59 I forgot her name (Alison, maybe?) but Miranda Otto's character is the fifth season of Homeland. I was furious when they killed her off unceremoniously and needlessly at the end, that character had a lot of potential and Miranda was brilliant as always, she's an underrated actress.
1:50:18 DUDE !!! The Star Trek Experience in Vegas was one of the greatest things they had there !!
Such a toxic work environment, I wonder if they'll somehow blame men for her actions too?
I liked for the first 4½ episodes of Last of Us but then I gradually lost interest. Making Joel an emotional tool kind of sealed it for me. The actress playing Ellie reminds me of Rocky Denison so I just can't get into her . Mean but that's how I feel
Agreed, I lost interest in the show the moment that I saw how they portrayed Joel's character. It felt like they had replaced Part 1 Joel with Part 2's character. I know MauLer doesn't agree with that interpretation, but I think he's very biased towards this series. I've noticed he gets rather defensive whenever anyone criticizes it.
Dang, missed this one live because RUclips decided to ignore my notification preferences. Thank goodness for this channel.
Shoutout to the guy shouting out One Piece.
Definitely a commitment to read (though is still much faster than watching), but it is probably one of the best stories of our time, even over Wheel of Time, which is tough for me to admit. It's not flawless, but i'd say it's worth the time investment by far.
Added bonus, the One Piece youtube sphere is full of some awesome people, and could make for some great collabs down the road.
Yea in a better world the live action that's on production would help it but i dont think so rn how it's possible
@@sarov7658 The live production might end up surprising us. Seems the crew mostly cares about the story, so it's got a chance, at least. Still a netflix anime adaptation, so the curse is there..
Chris Gore is great, like his presence whenever he's on.
"Transgender quadriplegic dwarf"
LOL! Can't stop laughing.
@Critical Drinker: Could you set the stream to "unlisted" instead of "private" after you finish your streams?
...I was halfway through the stream on Thursday before getting kicked off
Doesn't the Rock's wife decide what movies he does (seriously)? She's his agent I thought.
Great open bar with the boys.👍🤘
Love their content
Is this the first time Tom and Gary have been on stream together? I like them both a lot but I always assumed that there was some unspoken animosity for each other. Anyway more of them please this is awesome!
On the other hand, I'm looking forward for the growing Clone Rebellion to rise up against the Empire in Bad Batch Season 2.
Even though it would be forgone conclusion as Old Man Rex, Wolffe and Gregor appear in Star Wars Rebels as the remaining Clones left in existence.
Mindy getting awarded for Velma reminds me when Cartman shoved food up his ass and the mayor gave him a freaking medal for it.
Exactly! Mindy should have been banished to the phantom zone but instead is rewarded
Mindy was Terrible in that Wrinkle In Time
Movie from 2018.
Drinker: "It was streaming, but nobody was watching."
Welcome to my world, pal! 🤣
"DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT I AM, MAULER!!!" 😂😂😂
@ 41:00 (ish) Not only do we not have movie stars or directors who are box office draws, we also do not have too many actors and actresses who are capable of playing anyone other than themselves while on camera. Anya Taylor-Joy, Lupita Nyong'o, and Adam Driver are incredibly talented, but we do not have many other men and women ready to fill the shoes of an Anthony Hopkins, Cate Blanchett, Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks (in his prime), Meryl Streep, Morgan Freemen, or anyone else who actually have range.
Nailed it. It’s sad what’s happening to entertainment and actors
The older generation is getting older and younger generation is not on the same level. Some are VERY talented but not on the the same bridge as the older actors.
I really would like to see some of these actors and actresses being wasted in DC and MCU get good scripts and movies, to show whether or not they really can act. Robert Pattinson is great; he was just given shit in Twilight.
Make Sega's Daytona into a musical comedy.
Chris Gore's theory of Kathleen Kennedy's twin running star wars while the real one took off with the money is my new fav conspiracy theory
I have been waiting for this 🍻
If all super hero movies were like The Dark Knight we would not get fatigue.
We would feast😋
The Dark Knight is pretty high bar tho
Keanu Reeves is a movie star. He’s doing the last hard R action films.
Basically Disney and even Hollywood are just one big chess game, Alonso was a pawn and she didn’t even know it
She thought she a Queen😆
I have not read Brandon Sanderson (yet), but he has a great series of writer’s workshop videos on here. Free to watch.
Feige, the Russo's, and Olsen backed Scarjo.
There's no credit score in the world worth the billions of dollars Disney is losing right now.
Disney gets what it deserves
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P.S. Great show
Was wondering where this video went as it said it was deleted, then I noticed you uploaded it to the original channel by mistake haha
Listening to open bar I have been inspired to watch Buffy, wrath of Khan and now Picard 3. Good times. Good times.
When did they talk about Buffy? I'm curious about their take on it.
@@Zestie I know Mauler has mentioned it many times as a great show. Would love an EFAP BuT 7 series is even a challenge for the Longman!!
Gonna paint our wagon
Gonna paint it good
We ain't braggin'
We're gonna coat that wood.
There Gonna paint that wagon
There Gonna paint it good
They aint Braggin'
There gonna coat that wood
Gonna paint your wagon
Gonna paint it fine
Gonna use oil-based paint 'cos the wood is pine.
Gary’s absolutely correct about Geoff Johns. His 2000s Hal Jordan Green Lantern run was one of the most glorious eras in comics. Especially Blackest Night.
bankruptcy beckons me hearties
Best pop culture panel on the internet
Agreed
Marvel peaked at civil war. Ragnarok, and Guardians 2 were fun but formulaic. And infinity war and endgame should have been the end of it. To quote Bane, “victory has defeated you”
Disney was so assured of their success that they greenlit shit, and rather than taking a hiatus to plan for what comes next, they pumped out material in phase 4 than the previous 3 phases combined.
The DCEU was always a shallow cashin on marvel’s success. It’s been a day late and a dollar short for years now. They didnt even have the balls to own Snyder’s signature brooding tone, potentially refining it into something of its own, no they decided to try and steal the quippy dialogue, cheerier atmosphere and tone deaf jokes that plagued the mcu post civil war.
What goes up must come down, Seinfeld understood this. If only the vampires in hollywood could. Instead though they’ll bleed the franchises dry, and when there’s not a drop left, they’ll spend years trying to reanimate the corpse
Marvel was good but now it’s going downhill.
DCEU never had a future to begin with
The Force Awakens is getting diagnosed with Non Hodgkins Lymphoma, and The Last Jedi is getting hit by an effing train.
Revenge Of The Sith trumps both of them
Best cameo in a movie was Channing Tatum in This is the End.
@Anoneemus Noename brad pitt in lost city was great too
32:00 If he's going to make the argument that most people haven't played the Mortal Combat games, then he has to accept the same argument for book and comic adaptations.
I'm pretty sure Brandon Huerrara would love to come on this show if you just ask him.
It was a great stream! 👍👍👏
1:58:50 The polar opposite of "WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"
This "Whills" idea could be a triumph...
best (meta) cameo of all has to be the Dukes from Trading Places turning up in Coming to America 👌
What happened to the original upload? I was fifteen minutes behind on the stream and then got booted off.
Drinker saves them and reuploads them here for the algorithm
The superhero is not the suit. It is not a mantle to be exchanged with another. It is the character that first inhabited the suit. Falcon will NEVER be Captain America to me; Captain America IS Steve Rogers. Ironheart will NEVER be a replacement for Iron Man; Iron Man IS Tony Stark. Black Widow IS Natasha Romanoff and she permanently died on Vormir and absolutely cannot be replaced by some blonde discount replacement. Spider-Man is Peter Parker. Miles Morales is just Miles Morales, not Spider-Man. Same goes for any other character they try to create a replacement for. Woke or not, I will not support these replacements. Give us the originals, not these knockoff fakes.
On the discussion on videogame adaptations around 30:00, I think that it's a difficult juggle that needs to happen: make it different to adapt to the different medium but not as different as to lose the essence of the characters and the story and the background mythos, then make the characters clear and compelling, make the story work with the characters, get enough capital to finance the movie in order to make justice to such story. It's not going to be the same as experiencing a game but that's not what we fans are looking for as much as a comic book fan isn't expecting the same experience when they started to make good comic book movies; the same principles apply, and it's a perfect storm of good stuff that needs to happen in order for the adaptations to work.
Listen Falcon is a cool character but damn when I thought of it for a second. Falcon never got any serum. So he isn't super strong like Steve Rodgers. It just isn't the same without the serum.
I still don’t get why they didn’t just adapt the Rogue Squadron stuff by Stackpole. Heck, even the Mara Jade comic by Stackpole and Zahan would have been better as a TV show than Bobba Fett or Obi Wan. 🙄
Such wasted potential
As a child who grew up on Willow for my fix of high fantasy, I could t have been more disappointed in the show.
A single line of enjoyment where Willow recounts wether or not he was able to change ALL of the Galladorn army back into humans after they were changed into pigs, all while they spoon at their pork stew.
I usually don’t care for reboots, but a Peter Dinklage led Willow reboot, without THE MESSAGE, would (hopefully) be enjoyable. Henry Cavill or Chris Hemsworth as Madmartigan. Helen Miran and Tilda Swinton as Razel and Bavmorda, I don’t care who plays which witch. Louis CK and Bill Burr as Roul and Franjean.
Forgive my questionable fantasy spelling.
The Willow show was abysmal
@@chasehedges6775 Zero argument.
Regarding Chris Gore's comment; lesbian weed farmers armed with flamethrowers pitted against nazi zombies could be an indie movie that might just work.
I would watch that TWICE.
"When a polar bear farts at The North Pole it creates a big wind in Chicago."
(Kilgore Trout)
- Kurt Vonnegut -
'Breakfast Of Champions'
She deserved to be fired. Though,admittedly, it wasn't All her fault. Disney's Executives are also to blame for being Out of Touch and Wasting the Infinite Potential that is Disney.
Thank god Disparu isn’t here
I'm curious what was discussed or shown that required they pull down the cached video before the reupp
Will always "privates" the stream shortly after it is finished; usually he will wait a few hours but with this one it was about 15mins after he finished the stream on Thursday.
He does this so he can reupload the topic clips in a 15-20min video format. After he has releases all 4 topic clips, he then reuploads the full stream. I am not sure if there are any edits to the full stream reupload. I suspect not.
@@Brian-gw5hg well now that's not true. I watched the last open bar before this one over a couple days
@@2percentright did you watch the stream or the reupload? For open bar 41 he privated the stream sometime on Thursday then reuploaded the VOD on Monday. For 42 he reuploaded on Sunday (today).
@@2percentrightBrian is right
@@2percentright well you are wrong
Its not superhero fatigue, it's just that the novelty has run out just like the 3D animated movies back in the 2000s. Now they actually have to make good movies again...
Man I've missed Tom on Friday Night Tights. I wish he was still on rather than some of the other hosts.
Like the pointless eye candy that is xray girl? Does she ever contribute anything meaningful other than being simp bait?
I’d take this panel over FNT.
@@Dousch It's funny though when I first started watching I didn't like Tom or Jeremy but they both
grew on me. Now I miss old Tom.
@Alex M - Apm Yeah I was surprised to see Tom and Gary streaming together. I thought they had a falling
out. Like Gary and Doomcock. Glad it isn't the case.
@@whaguitars ur really going above & beyond in the comment section for this tom dude.... kinda weird.
Star Wars isn't the story if Luke, Knights of the Old Republic demonstrated it 20 years ago. It's set 4000 years before the movies, it doesn't impact them at all, yet it's still regarded as one of the best Star Wars stories, alongside its sequel. Star Wars is about emotions, light vs dark, good vs evil. You can make pretty much anything with that. It's just that Disney cannot infuse their shows and movies with emotions and passion to save their life.
_Good and evil_ is problematic. And we all know no human ever wanted to sit by and watch a problem play out
Disney's Ragnarok is here and I'm loving it.
Agreed. The downfall of Disney is beautiful
1:51:53 That's not even correct, even The Force Awakens ditched its original screenwriter, Michael Arndt. It's actually pretty telling that the only Disney SW film that had a smooth production was the one that ended up tearing the franchise apart.