Open Bar #70 - The Marvels Review Blackout, Disney Board Takeover, Actor's Strike Bites
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2023
- Marvel is doing everything they can to mitigate the damage for The Marvels, imposing a review embargo until the day before the movie releases. They know how bad it is, and they're scared. Meanwhile, Nelson Peltz, the activist investor is back, and this time he's gunning for Bob Iger's job. And as the Film Actors Guild strike passes 100 days, the full extent of the damage is becoming obvious.
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I wonder if the best scene in cinematic history for older men is when Mr. Incredible gets his back popped by that murdering sphere robot in The Incredibles
The Incredibles is an animated masterpiece and one of Pixars best
@@chasehedges6775 That is right! And we do not talk about a sequel because none is needed!
That reminds me of spiderman 2. I'm back! I'm back! Crash! my back my back
I think about that scene almost every day and pray a robot tries to kill me and pops my back like that
Best scene EVER is the last battle in Endgame.
To be honest, judging entirely by the avatar alone, Platoon has the look of what could be a decent villain. The turtleneck and overcoat, the slight smirk, a drink in hand. It just fits.
Looks like Johan from monster
The best villains are the ones that are right.
Also the accent.
@DiceOL damn lol hell yeah haha never put that together before, but that's dead on 😂
Bond villain
2:11:10 My favourite story about Brian Blessed was when he was in an episode of Doctor Who, back in the 70’s. In the scene he was being chased by some kind of monster, he runs up to a big wooden door in what looks like a castle, finds it locked but smashes his way through it. Someone screwed up though, and the real door hadn’t been swapped for the fake balsa wood prop. He actually smashed through it anyway, like the tank on legs he was.
😂 Wow, I’ve never saw that episode of Doctor Who, (the fourth Doctor I assume?) but wow, that’s dedication. Hopefully he wasn’t seriously hurt by doing that.
I think it was actually the 6th Doctor, 1986. The entire season sees the Doctor on trial, by the Time Lords. About 12 episodes, comprised of his court statement flashbacks.
There is a similar story about Equilibrium. There is a scene where an enforcer has to kick down a door. He has to give it 3 solid kicks to get through. The way I heard it, the people who were tasked with constructing the set didn't build the door to "breakaway" standards. And the actor just beat it down anyway.
That’s nothing. I had to break through the front door, run upstairs and smash through the bedroom door when a girl I’d started seeing said she was ready for me. Lil minx only went and gave me the wrong address 🙄
he was fine. the door is still in recovery.
Biggest shock to me in this video is that there's been 8 superhero movies in 2023. WTF? I couldn't even name half of them if I tried. The apathy has definitely set in.
Shazam 2, Across the Spiderverse, Quantumania, Guardians 3, the Flash, Blue Beetle, Aquaman 2, and the Marvels
@@mrg2155
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I’ve heard of most but had no idea they were already out
that's because they all sucked. The Marvels is just the capstone of Suckitude!
Three of those movies were lame ducks to a dead cinematic universe
Interesting experiment: compare The Marvels to Indy 5: “Dial of Dysentery” and see which one makes back it’s Production Budget the fastest 😂
indy has the better chance but thats sort of like saying this tortoise has a better chance of growing wings and flying away than this spare tire does.
I think the answer to this is neither, but the closest to making back the budget is “whichever one cost less”
The one box office bump The Marvels might get is the Thanksgiving weekend because people will want the 2 hour break while still doing something as a family. I still think it bombs.
People will be at their homes eating Turkey, potatoes and squash, and pudding instead of watching that movie
@@chasehedges6775 That Thursday, come Friday and Saturday. I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if it had a surprising hold that weekend much like Wakanda Forever did.
We had a family tradition of having Thanksgiving a little before lunch, then around 1-2 PM going to a movie.
We stopped before covid. Haven't been back. No one wanted to spend the time or money on the crap that was being shown.
@@Kyle-sr6jm Ditto.
It's important to remember that the Disney board was hand picked by Iger.
They're essentially his puppets and won't question anything he says or does.
Peltz is attempting to change that by getting several board seats to force a vote of 'no confidence' in Iger so that he can replace him with someone more competent.
It's also important to note that before picking Chapek to 'succeed him' as CEO, Iger had other choices that would've helped Disney to become more successful.
Iger chose Chapek because he thought he would be easier to control, and he was afraid the other candidates would overshadow his legacy.
I really don’t get those claims (CEO picking the board)… how is it possible? Especially for a company so focused on ESG (G for governance)?
CEOs don't pick the BoD. You know nothing about governance, even if your intentions are good. Making points with erroneous claims isn't productive. There's enough material to persecute Iger or Disney without being objectively wrong.
@ClownTown15000
When Iger resigned as CEO, he was immediately made chairman of the board.
If you think that wasn't already planned months before it was announced that Iger was 'retiring' you're the fool, not me.
Even before becoming chairman of the board, Iger had lots of influence over who the majority shareholders would pick as board members.
In fact, one of the reasons he cited when he refused to allow Nelson Peltz onto the board was that Peltz had no experience running an entertainment company.
Something Igers board members also didn't have.
They clearly weren't picked for their ability.
They were picked because they aligned with Iger's agenda and will fall in line when he needs them to.
@@ian-flanagan My point is that Iger picked them by proxy.
He's been the CEO for over 15 years, and he's 100% behind the ESG agenda no matter what.
The majority shareholders would've been heavily influenced to back his picks for board members since Iger would know who they could count on to follow his directive.
Which is also the majority shareholders directive.
@@ClownTown15000 Yes, we understand how boards are *supposed* to work. The newspaper claim is that the Disney board is not normal. Unless you have inside info, you can’t call it “objectively wrong”.
You love to see a company that had all the advantages piss it all down the toilet for meager gains
Gains?
Their ambition was little… fueled by petty need
The only reason I even remembered a small portion of Capt. Marvel was Maulers review. I was like I don't even remember that happening?😮🤣🤣
Same. Drinker calling her Plank in his review is also locked into memory because it was hilarious.
"Has The Patriarchy™ got you down? All you have to do is get a little upset, power up another 1%, and easily defeat whatever's in front of you."
One of the best panel lineups of all time. Was only missing Disparu and itsagundam
Edward Norton's Hulk would destroy Ruffalo's Hulk. Norton's Hulk had a LOT more rage bottled up.
(edit: By the way, talking about the Black Widow solo movie.. Angelina Jolie in the movie "Salt" is more black widow than Black Widow was in her own movie.- If you haven't seen Salt, it's a fun one when it comes to the action. Much better than Black widow)
Salt was bomb.
Fun fact: Salt was pitched to star Tom Cruise. If that had happened, it'd be just another generic action movie. That movie only worked because Angelina Jolie was in it. The plot is generic, everyone from the Russians to Liev Schrieber is a cartoon. And the climax is a B movie with bad prosthetic make up. Yet, people liked seeing Angelina Jolie be a James Bond style character.
Also, I fully agree. Ed Norton Hulk would smash Ruffalo into paste. What's the best thing about The Hulk? Anger and rage. They turned that into a superpower. Again, the movie wasn't great. But they fully embraced the anger. There was blood in that movie. The idea of male rage is now toxic masculinity bullshit.
MauLer is right. Ruffalo Hulk was the best in 2012 Avengers. The rest is all a joke. Especially Ragnarok and Endgame.
@@valentinegonsalves7322 Norton’s Hulk is definitely my favorite version. Diznee/Marvel turned Norton’s Giga -Chad- Hulk into a MaIe-Pheminist Hulk, which isn’t that far off from what Mark Ruffalo is IRL.
Red Sparrow was Black Widow. Right down to Budapest...
Norton’s Hulk, was high on Daddy Issues, that edgy editing is still my fav.
Sequel was dud, not much fun.
And then there was Ruffalo in Avenger.
1:11:00 We are already in our own entertainment echo chambers. My wife and I watch entirely different RUclips videos and practically everyone else is doing the same thing.
Having a "surprise" cameo and being awful are not mutually exclusive. See also: nearly every Marvel film since 2012.
On Longman's question on trying to boost Marvel with popular characters; Holywood execs, holding 0 understanding of pop-culture, think of character popularity like that of political candidates and endorsements.
If popular character publicly endorses the character Holywood wants to push, then most of their votes/popularity will transfer to the endorsee.
Ofc that's not the case, sometimes even failing on actual political elections but if there's one thing we can rely on entertainment execs to do, it is they'll always learn the wrong lesson no matter what.
They'll always learn the wrong lesson, no matter what.
💯👍
To be completely fair - Keaton genuinely rescued Flash. Still has charisma, still has nostalgia. It's not a wonderful movie, but Keaton delivered.
Even worse, they are all Democrats so they think it’s all decided by the Superdelegates (access media).
Kevin Feige and KK are the worst. They have ruined the MCU and Star Wars, respectively.
Regarding The Mandalorian, they could have done it sort of like the old western tv-series Kung Fu, with David Carradine. It was an American action-adventure martial arts Western drama television series. The series follows the adventures of Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin monk who travels through the American Old West, armed only with his spiritual training and his skill in martial arts, as he seeks Danny Caine, his half-brother.
I had a serious thing for Mindy Kaling, but everything she did after the office was just obnoxious. She needs to self-insert into her personal life and leave entertainment alone.
The Office was my first introduction to Kaling, and I wasn’t surprised to learn that she’s just as vexatious in real life as her small screen counterpart.
Bro how on earth did you find her attractive
Who's Mindy Kaling?
@@snusemcgoose1001She’s cute. She’s not like a 10 bombshell or anything but not bad.
@BootySweat4491 Whatever your on ill take two 😅
My favorite part of these shows is when you talk about where all the money really goes. Where do these millions of dollars end up?
Ukraine and Pfizer
I kid but sadly, not really
@@cosmictreason2242was thinking the same thing... especially when I heard She Hulk cost them $25M per episode.
@@cosmictreason2242Israel as well but that’s taboo to say
Really happy to enjoy an intelligent discussion where the panel members aren't dropping F-Bombs every two sentences.
A rarity. Usually this signifies the opposite
Agreed. A little professional decorum goes a long way, even if it might not be intentional.
True. Thats wjy I dont like friday night tight.
Are you American by any chance?
A few F bombs to emphasize a point never hurts. 😂
On voice actors: Christopher Lee did Death in some TV adaptation thing of the Discworld books; I have no idea what the thing was, but his voice stuck with me so totally that now when I read the books it's only his voice I can hear when Death speaks. Other than Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid, I can't think of a single other character in a book where that is true.
Probably _Hogfather._ The Discworld's version of Santa goes missing. Death, ever a believer in order, decides that someone has to do the Hogfather's job.
Not Saruman?
Qui-Gon didn't have enough hp to survive a critical from Maul because he spent so many Souls in Dexterity and none in Vigor.
What made Independence Day such a great movie is that at its core, it's about a marine marrying a stripper and saving the world.
Not sure if sarcasm
Every man’s quest
At first the actors went on strike to stand with the writers right? Unless I don't know exactly how it works, doesn't the actors staying on strike screw over the writers even after their strike ended?
Not at all. 2 different groups. Actors struck because the writers were also striking so both can benefit due to both being important things for movies. The writers already got there deal done so whatever the actors do now shouldn't effect the contract thebwriters got negotiated
@adammarkovic3316 Right but whatever the writers create (talking about film and TV mostly) is useless if there are no actors right? Unless studios are just going to hire writers to make scripts to movies that can't be made until the actors strike is over, which may not even be this year.
I feel like there is a 70-80% chance that mauler does his streams from his bathroom or something. Everyone else has a nice little studio and mauler is under a freaking bridge somewhere!😂
Or Wales internet can’t handle live video stream 😅
Nah he understands doxxing
Wdym? Mauler broadcasts from the Interstice. Where all eldrich horrors reside.
Someone has to keep it real. ((Eg. They're all trolls))
Black Widow film should have been like the Bourne films.
Dailywire seems aware that its entertainment programing needs to entertain. The stance they are taking now is that selling entertainment that hold traditional family structure as the norm and not having politics at all is the revolution that is needed. I strongly agree.
If 10 years ago you proposed that the market would have room for a new company that simply had as goals "not-Woke and entertaining", it would have been taken as a joke.
@@Kyle-sr6jm Back then not many even knew the woke existed
@@dean_l33 It was much more subtle if at all back then.
Trump broke them all permanently. 🤣
As a parent I could not be happier that someone is stepping into the family values market that Disney abandoned and subscribed to try it out. We haven’t had time to watch any of it yet but I have high hopes it will be more palatable than lesbian relationships in cartoons aimed at 8-10 year olds.
traditional family structure is right wing in 2023. In 2023 anyone who isn’t bat shit insane gets lumped into right wing 😂
The only value of Carol Denvers is to get her power sucked by Rogue.
The dig at AngryJoe was funny, I don't believe I've ever heard The Drinker mention or discuss him before.
While I wasn’t a big fan of Angry Joe, I appreciated that he had his own opinions on what he reviewed. But then he swung to the left too far, and began insulting people whom didn’t agree with his leftist beliefs. I’m neither left or right, but if you’re going to review shows etc, being open minded is recommended.
DeSantis is stubborn as hell, he can't afford to lose this fight and neither can Disney.
I think this could go all the way to the SC.
Florida has the law on its side.
@@darthkek1953True but Disney is small hat controlled and the small hats control most of government. So… I’d say it’s 50/50.
Unfortunately for DeSantis, he lost a lot of power, influence, and public good will when he ran against Trump. He’s greatly weakened his position and support. Disney couldn’t have wished for something more destructive for DeSantis, and the worst part is he did it himself.
@@itsawoodchuck4330cap. That's just trump Cult propaganda. DeSantis has way less negatives than trump
Dude is a straight right wing clown
I don’t understand why you wouldn’t write a good script, then start making the show? Isn’t it basically the same cost for a good writer and a bad writer? Even if you had to pay the good writer 1 mil USD more, it’s a drop in the bucket for the cost of these projects. Just seems so obvious…
The MESSAGE is more important than quality to Disney.
@@TheDevilmayfart💯💯
I also don’t get it. It might be because good writers are getting rarer. As LP has said before, these days their only life experience is studying writing at college….. (compare to Gene Roddenberry who fought a war and was a pilot and policeman before writing).
@@ian-flanaganBut what if that writer is white and your diversity quota requires a more melanated writer? Prioritizing quality work over skin color is LITERALLY racism!
I think the people making hiring decisions genuinely don't know the difference between good and bad writing, and may not believe that there even is a difference. A lot of them seem to think that the difference between success and failure purely comes down to whether you have the right kind of pandering. After all, it requires a certain amount of self reflection and self awareness to recognize the difference between "I like it" and "it's good". A lot of these people may not know how to make that distinction, or may not even know that that distinction can be made.
2:27:15 Miles Morales already has a superhero name, it's Kid Arachnid, I really like it, and before someone says that he is not a kid, Hellboy is not a boy 😂
The drinker hit it right on the head. The backstories and lore are so complex and interwoven now that if you miss anything you're completely lost now. And when people don't understand something they don't like it That is what's bleeding marvel completely dry right now people aren't tuning in because they're completely lost They have no hope of getting caught up because we don't have time to sit down and watch over 300 hours of television. We're busy we have lives we got to cook dinner we got to pay the mortgage We can't just sit down and watch 300 hours.
EXACTLY! There are bigger things to worry about.
It also doesn't help that the shows just aren't that good or entertaining. It just makes going through all the content an absolute nightmare, and the average person would definitely not want to bother with it.
@@faboo2001 💯💯
There is more humanity in Thor than there is in Captain Marvel who is supposedly human. MCU Captain Marvel comes off to me as some sort of anti-human propaganda.
Disney thinks that their movies are perfect and their failure is due to the work of internet trolls. The best part about the gag order decision is that they will prove themselves wrong.
In the UK, the actors union is much MUCH more woke, but much less powerful. There is a bit of a taboo about actors who aren't members of Equity (hilarious name) but you genuinely don't have to be. But the flip side of that is that Equity publicly attacked one of their own members (Lawrence Fox) for his political views and eventually he sued them and forced them to both pay him and publicly apologise.
hulk`s son??? what about vision?? where is that guy??
The main reason I think Andor did so well is the characters act like real people, and the stakes seem real. Most of the characters are new and have no plot armor, so they can get killed at any time. The other shows (what little I've seen), have the most unreal interactions and reactions of any acting and writing I've ever seen.
Exactly. Andor is 10/10
Everything else is meh
Andor took its world seriously.
Any other Star Wars content, The Empire exists in name only. Remember when people people dreaded being found out by the Empire? The Rebellion were the underdogs, and constantly needed help by either going undercover or turning Empire folks to their side to spy for them? How Alderaan was blown up because the Empire smelled a rebellion?
Watch Ahsoka. Ray Stevenson is scary. But he's not Empire. And the Empire is just a thing everyone talks about while standing around. No fear, no thirst for revenge, no anger. "Because women are awesome and cool and don't get angry like men do."
Guys, according to WDW Pro and Valiant Renegade, it was Eiger who actually got Disney into the problem with Florida, he released statements undercutting Chapek, who did try to keep them out. So he actually WAS the source of the political problems.
-John
PS: No, we know that Eiger kept the key to his bathroom (with shower)
The thing about the strikes is that everyone, even the production side, could see that the idea of using AI to create things without paying the actors they are modelled on is not fair. Everyone could equally see that streaming needs proper metrics, and that hiding the numbers only benefits Netflix. The fact that these two points were hammered out quickly shows that this strike was not really about that.
The issues were all about the unions feeling insecure post Covid and wanting to re-assert their power. And so they did what all unions do; they pushed for more benefits for members and pulled up the ladder behind them.
And the world became quiet as the common people gathered, hand in hand, in anticipation of 'the message' from Zegler to the world. Suddenly, trumpets sounded as rose petals fell from the sky. Then, atop a great mountain, Zegler appeared. The common folk knew the rule, so nobody dared look her straight in the eye. Then she spoke, and as she spoke, the commoners listened intently. It wasn't a few seconds when the riff-raff in attendance realized it was all lies and bullshit! "Don't turn your back on 'the message'" Zegler screamed, but it was too late. The people quickly went home. Suddenly, from the heavens, a massive hand came down. It was holding a McDonalds hat. "This is your destiny" a woman's voice chanted. Zegler looked to the skies in fear, only to see the image of Gina Carano, smiling with sympathy. Then Carano's voice shook the land when she said..."That's Hollywood Baby!"🤣
Petals
This is BEAUTIFUL!
The problem with the MCU isn’t that it’s too big, it’s that too much of it is shit. I love dense, realized narrative universes. The problem with the MCU is that in order to keep up, you have to trudge through so much shit. And the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze.
I pretty much tapped out after end game, but when they expected me to have watched these unbelievably sub-par TV show etc to watch the main movie line!!! No way.
Guardian of the Galaxy 3 was the end of the universe for me.
Spider-Man was better than Endgame
My bad-movie guilty pleasure is the original D&D movie, and for the same reason Drinker gave for B&R. Jeremy Irons was having so much fun playing a completely over-the-top villain. He was chewing up every bit of scenery every time the camera turned to him!
LET THEIR BLOOD RAIN FROM THE SKYYYYY
😂😂😂
I have two: God's Not Dead and The Giver.
To be fair, the latter's easily an 8/10, *if* you haven't read the book.
If you have, then it's closer to a 5/10.
Nelson Peltz sounds like a villain in a wacky 80s adventure movie.
They should have killed off Hawkeye instead of Black Widow in Endgame. Yeah, he had a family, but that just makes his sacrifice even more tragic and he was the least interesting Avenger, IMO -- especially if you were worried about female representation.
I mean imo they shouldn't have done the treasure hunt memberberry time travel in the first place
@@cosmictreason2242 Exactly
Guilty pleasure movie: Speed Racer, by the Wachowski bros/sisters.
I am soo looking for the reviews of The Marvels. It will be so epic.
Yay! Little Platoon is on. Every time I think I’m capable of intelligent discourse, he puts me absolutely to shame.
Your statement was clear, with correct punctuation and grammar. You, Sir, are more capable of intelligent discourse than 90% of RUclips commenters!
Little Platoon review of Ashoka is gold
@@dougrobinson8602 I gotta admit, I try to be flexible when it comes to grammar and spelling in the comments section. However, nothing annoys me more than reading an interesting comment that forms a wall of text.... no paragraph breaks. Run-on sentences with no commas or periods doubles my psychic pain.
@@RustCole01 As much as I like Gina Carano, and her post about Kathleen Kennedy, it was _exactly_ like that. Just one giant run-on sentence.
@@toothgrinder2760 Ya man, I don't get it. I guess it depends on the crap-shoot of public schools. I grew up in an average suburb of Boston and went to a very average school. But, I know that my grade school teachers emphasized the importance of making our writings easy to read.
IIRC, we were taught the general rules about commas and prepositions. I feel bad for Bill Burr when he reads audience emails. I mean, he concedes that he isn't a tremendous reader, but I have seen some of the emails and they are barely comprehensible. Gina Carano's hotness makes her posts less of a problem for me though. Lol
Echo sounds like an excellent film to explore in a future episode of: "PRODUCTION HELLLLLLLLL"
When do good movies have a review embargo? I've never given a sh*t about a cameo at the end of the movie. Not a single marvel movie did I ever sit through the credits at theaters.
I remember after the first avengers came out everyone was referencing and talking about and mimicking hulk whip smashing loki over and over. He could have been the coolest character
He was the coolest character. Until they killed the real Hulk off-screen and stuck some toothless doofus in his place.
He was an absolute savage. Then somewhere along the line, they cucked the shit out of him. Despite his strength, he never gets any credit. Just humilated and overlooked over and over again.
They should re-release classics remastered in the theaters. For Christmas do Christmas vacation, Rudolph, frosty, elf, etc etc
Fantastic idea. There’s already a cinema brand with smaller screens to rent for birthdays etc and you can pick the movie, maybe even bring a USB
I always see this comment, or similar, and I just have to point out, most theaters already do that... Just nobody actually goes to watch them. My local theater in Australia has 2 nights a month where they show 2 classic movies back to back, and nobody goes. I mean I'm interested in it and I've only been once or twice. Seems like an obvious and great idea but probably doesn't make a big profit in reality
@lucasbennett7717 I just mean while there are no new movies. It'll give theaters something to show
Agreed. While having showings at 7pm on Tuesday and Wednesday technically fulfills the idea, it’s completely different than having it on the marquee, over the weekends and advertising it.
If the theaters do it then I hope others join me in going.
They didn't even try to explain how Hulk got to the planet of the Grandmaster.
Spiderman was a good movie. Everyone seems to forget that one
I could be wrong cuz I'm almost always listening to these and not watching but the intro seems new and updated and it's absolutely gold 😍
Yeah it's new. 3 episodes ago
When Drinker says "go away now" I hear "now,fk off"
🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, but this has to be said: Echo looks like an Oblivion NPC
Gunn is "in control of all variables".
“It's all part of the plan…. but not quite.”
Gunn is about to have a taste of failure. Heck, even if he somehow makes the stuff good
Fav voice actor was the one who played Kain from Legacy of Kain.
Simon Templeman
@@Dhomden yes him!!! 😁
@@Dhomden thank you for name drop.
I agree Captain Marvel should have been held till phase 4. She doesn't return in time to save the day. Carol arrives to see the destruction and decides to join the Avengers after. She feels the guilt for not being there and maybe we get some character development
i actually forgot hulk had a son. shows how much i care about the mcu now
Kevin Conroy as Batman, and Mark Hamill as the Joker- Some of the greatest voice actors ever!
I am so looking forward to the efap for Loki & The Marvels.
Efap lol. Does that mean what I think it does? I hope so 😂😂
Loki and the Marvels sounds like one of those weird 80s cartoons where they just took some random characters and stuck them together for no reason.
Chapek also tried building up a panel which had oversight over movies and series to make sure they presented good values. Iger was quick to desolve this.
I try not to be too judgmental, but Chapek was at an Elton John concert the night he got fired. I'm not 100% convinced he was opposed to woke Disney.
@@RustCole01he was just the fall guy
@@RustCole01You can like an musical artist like Elton John, and disagree with a corporation like Disney.
Thanks for the upload rescued a shitty day somewhat.
Same. It's cold where I am and this made my day a little better
I'm saving it for tomorrow.. Monday is gonna suck.
Still think the best Snow White version was the Rammstein video for Sonne!
Kevin Conroy of course. Keith David. Steve Blum. Denise Poirier (Aeon Flux, Angela in Spawn).
I saw the Robbin Williams Popeye in the theater! Love that movie.
Spoilers for Rebels:
Darth maul died in Rebels in one amazing scene with Obi Wan so it wouldn't really make sense for him to be in Ahsoka
If DCCU wants to make better movies just ask the DC Animation team for help.
100%. Its a shame WB has actually scaled back budgets on the animated movies to make up for losses. The stories remain awesome. But the animation and art style has really deteriorated.
little platoon makes these conversations10 times better.
"bob iger being part of disney fabric"
like that one ancient dude fused to a ship in pirates of the caribbean
Nice little opening there! (Not sure how long it’s been there because I don’t always view rather than listen at 1.5 to 2X speed most the time).
Miles new name:Lightning Bug
Let's Get Down on the 70th Open Bar
At 2:07:25 Drinker makes a reference to The Lord of the Rings subsituding Scottish for Dwarves
Back when the mcu was working, favreau, Gunn and the Russo’s were all working together to
Varying degrees and all the cast members were all clearly enjoying themselves. None of that is present anymore
Shuri: Well I'm sure you did your best.
Banner: Those cat paw blasters...made out of vibranium?
Shuri: *smuggly* Yes.
Banner: Black Panther's suit...?
Shuri: Also vibranium.
Banner: The force field generator, space ship, holographics technology...?
Shuri: *red faced* Yes it's all vibranium,
Banner: So... you just throw this wonder metal at pretty much everything.
Shuri: *sullen* Well..um... yes, actually.
Banner: Well... I'm sure you would still be quite competent without it.
Shuri: *crying* No! I don't know what I'm doing! I just weld vibranium to everything! Help...?
I always forget that Hux even exists.
I've seen a few people reflexively recoil at Daily Wire's new media arm saying things like it's just ideological propaganda in the opposite direction. It's kind of incredible that the only propaganda they need is a faithful adaptation of a beloved story.
There were a billion reasons to introduce Captain Marvel when they did.
Funny how the Open Bar sign at the beginning has stickers on it but as an American they always look like bullet holes to me.
I'll have you know, Quaigon had a rare allergy to lightsabers, the poor sod.
I don't know if this is too late a recommendation, but a documentary on the production of your movie would be amazing, probably too late now if you don't have the footage, but maybe an idea for your next one 😊
Universal hasn’t done anything with The Hulk since 2008. Those right should have lapsed years ago. They only had distribution and first right of refusal anyway. Neither would have stopped Marvel from making a solo film *if they wanted to.* the first film just didn’t make enough money for them to want to continue is all. Marvel can make the movie. Universal can either distribute it or pass. If they pass, the Rodent House gets to distribute. The only “downside” is having to share a percentage (whatever it would have been) of the box office with Universal, if they distributed.
Everyone always blows this issue out of proportion. Feige laid it out simply over ten years ago.
FIsk in Daredevil....I loved him
This movie is the prize for reviewers who were prevented from experiencing New Warriors with Snowflake and Safespace.
27:04 THAT'S ME!!!! I'm a normie. And they totally had me back in 08 with that end credit scene in hulk with Norton. When Tony mentions the avengers initiative. I wasnt a big comic book fan nor did i have a lot of knowledge about them, but i remember being curious about it so i went home looked it up.
I remember being excited and thinking "holy shtt, this is gonna be awesome" Thor, iron man, Spider-Man, Hulk all these superheroes together fighting enemies. And it was cool for a while, but damn right around the agents of shield show they lost me.
25:00 - re: having to purchase everything out there to get the story. Chris Claremont did this in the mid-80s with The Mutant Massacre over at Marvel: a single story, spread out across almost more titles than a normal person could purchase. They were aiming for the "get the whole story!" angle to drive greater sales, including major titles like X-Men and obscure ones like Power Pack. It worked then because it was a relatively new concept and an extermination campaign against mutants (X-Men was their biggest title then) captured readers' attention.
Unfortunately it also led to "the X-Men die and go to Australia" as a pre-meme recurring joke. They threatened everybody with death but apart from obscure characters like Cypher, nobody really died--and those that did were resurrected on the third day to keep up sales. And of course, this was followed by "The Death of Superman"... who came back almost right away. There's no permanence anymore, and thus no stakes. The only thing that's changed is the medium and the budget.
Actually, the mid-80's is when I lost interest because it was obvious they were trying to milk the fan base with all these crossover storylines. I finally got tired of Peter Parker/ Spider-man getting nothing but abuse in his life and cancelled my last comic subscription.
Cypher came back too eventually lol
the proposed "successful" Black Widow movie sounds alot like Atomic Blonde lol
I got drunk and threw a roundhouse kick at my refrigerator, and my knee just hinged and i dropped on my back with a massive blop!
27:07
The thing is the drinker hit this perfectly. My mother just turned sixty five, and she has never picked up a comic book in her life, but she knows who Hemsworth and Thor are and she loves Downey and Iron Man
Let me ask her if she's ever heard of Moinca Rambeau lol. Watch even as a comic book reader myself, and i share them with my teenager, I could care less about The Marvels
And last but not least is that I have 3 younger sisters. Aging from 30 to 40 that have watched most of the MCU and they could give a rat's ass about this new upcoming crap film.
Original Star Wars was al about personal growth.The interaction between diagonal characters and the way they did overcome their differences and learned to work together, but also learn from and trust and love each other.
New Star Wars has no learning curve but simpleton solutions. Bloody awful .
I've no love lost for Chapek but Platoon is wrong that Chapek started the legal war with FL.
Like Gary said, Chapek wasn't allowed to stay out of that political quagmire.
He was forced to take a side by the company.
1:14:00 hit the nail on the fucking head! Just one of countless reasons to hate TLJ. It kickstarted a cult of “I like this movie not out of subject taste but because pretending to like it makes you maaaaad, take that bigots”
Wow! 8 superhero movies in 2023? Didn't even realise there were that many. Must have been an even worse year than I thought it was
"Fans aren't impossible to please, they just need occasionally for things not to be complete dogshit." Thank you, LP
I can’t wrap my head around them ruining Thrawn. A near perfect character with the advantage of when he DID lose small battles, which was very very rare, he had the ability to learn from it and use those tactics to crush enemies even more efficiently the next time. They took that ONE trait and made it his entire personality. Now he loses constantly and justifies it with “well we learned from it”. Absolute garbage.
man that south park special was good
31:29 / soy hulk … sulk?