Open Bar #23 - Rings of Power Struggle, She Hulk Nightmare, House of the Dragon Ascendant
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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00:10 The queen is dead. Long live the king.
02:11 Press F to pay respects
02:48 Intro - Tyrone Magnus
04:14 Intro - Nerdrotic
06:00 Intro - The Little Platoon
08:28 Amazon's Rings of Power - A dog can bark at the moon...
19:34 Amazon's Rings of Power - Inability to take constructive criticism
28:10 Amazon's Rings of Power - The Lore and lack of it
32:44 Amazon's Rings of Power - SPOILERS
33:44 Amazon's Rings of Power
34:00 Corporations not learning from their mistakes, bad sequels everywhere
41:04 Fandoms as battlegrounds
46:00 Directors messing things up and for what? - Thor movies
55:35 Directors messing things up and for what? - Star Wars
58:20 Directors messing things up and for what? - The Last of Us part 2
1:03:44 She-Hulk
1:16:02 She-Hulk - Representation of male and female characters
1:21:29 She-Hulk - Drinker's suggested character development of She-Hulk
1:25:17 She-Hulk - Marvel wont remember Hulk is not on earth in their next camio or representation of the Hulk
1:26:35 Marvel having no cohesive plan
1:28:53 House of the Dragon
1:29:11 House of the Dragon - Girl power written well (so far)
1:35:51 House of the Dragon - "Mediocre" to "Good" is the new benchmark
1:40:54 Cobra Kai
1:42:37 She-Hulk
1:43:37 Arcane
1:48:04 Process of kickstarting a movie/franchize
1:52:43 The Fantastic Four
1:55:09 Super Chats
1:58:41 Wrath of Kahn tangent
2:00:44 Reuse of Invention - The history of the steam engine
2:01:46 Wrath of Kahn tangent
2:02:47 Super Chats - The queen and conspiracy theories
2:04:10 Super Chats - Rings of Power - The unincluded Tolkien lore
2:07:56 Adapting Tolkien's work
2:09:13 Super Chats
2:09:55 Super Chats - Rings of Power Amazon reviews still not visible
2:10:25 Constructive criticism tangent
2:12:46 Super Chats
2:15:05 Super Chats - Plushies
2:15:29 Super Chats
2:15:44 Amazon's Rings of Power Disa and other character portrayals tangent
2:19:58 Super Chats
2:21:51 Super Chats Tyrone and internet beefs
2:22:46 Super Chats
2:23:24 Super Chats - Which series is worser?
2:26:37 A glimps behind the tv and movie making curtain
2:28:54 Amazon's Rings of Power - Bad writing hurtting portrayals of characters
2:31:52 Nerdrotic exits stage left
2:33:49 Super Chats - Do you know why a ship floats and a stone cannot?
2:35:24 Super Chats
2:35:59 Super Chats - Who will win the streaming wars?
2:37:50 Super Chats
2:43:22 Final Thoughts
2:45:27 That's all he's got for today, GO WAY NOW!
Wow ...
@Graham Perry Noted.
Great work mate, All podcast should do this by default. Pretty Much any video on RUclips should do this.
God Bless you
You, sir, have done a great good deed. I declare thee lord paramount of the comment section, and bestow upon thee all the privileges that come with thy new title.
Never heard of The Little Platoon, but my goodness he brought a lot to the table
You should check out his Star Trek stuff. It’s outstanding.
@@chickenleg675 I have recently rewatched the entirety of TNG this year
His videos are insanely good.
Drinker said he made good arguments in a video in a recent open bar so I checked him out. First vid and I was hoping he would be on open bar or efap because he's definitely a Longman.
Including his politics, sadly
I am so happy to see Tyrone on the show! I also think The Little Platoon is doing good work as well. GAME FACE!
Same. Dude has the best Try Not To Laugh videos on YT.
Ah, loved to see Little Platoon making it. I've found his channel few months ago and I was instantly blown away by the quality of his analysis and smart sense of humour. Great chap, please bring him in more often. A collab video of Drinker x Platoon would be something interesting to see happen
Agreed! Tyrone was a miss for me, he ain’t suited to this level of content
@@thebitsanpiecesman4423 I like Tyrone. He's a proper bloke too, but in here he came across as a bit, erm, shy? Platoon is a true erudite and I must admit that it's the first time I'm fanboying for a youtube creator. I really wish his channel gets traction and blows up
@@TrigonAZR oh don’t get me wrong he’s good at what he does, but real in depth analysis just ain’t his strong suit imo but little platoon was great subbed almost immediately lol 😂
I honestly thought the queen was going to live for at least 5 more years.
And to be honest, the idea of her ever not being around seemed quite an alien one to me.
From the first James Bond book until the last movie it was the same Majesty he was in service to.
It's hard to put into words
I know what you mean - I don't know I'm going to be able to to think of anyone else as monarch other than her.
It's going to be so strange seeing stamps and banknotes that are not her.
I had her outliving her son to spite him for being with Camilla lol
@@gickojerke1262 That's crazy to think about. She reigned longer than me and my parents have been alive
@@incurableromantic4006 Shit I didn't even think about all the representation of royalty needs to be changed over now
I think it's perfectly legitimate and "not racist" to expect that stories based o European folklore should have European casts. No one would think it was acceptable to make a tale based on African folklore without an African cast or a tale based on Chinese folklore without a Chinese cast.
Parity is all I want.
I can't wait for the all black version of Romance of the three Kingdoms.
I think it’s also legitimate to not really mind if there’s a black elf. Not really a big deal in any sense right?
@@bubblehulk7647 no.
@@cynickicksasssounds silly. I saw some people trying to argue dwarves couldn’t be black, because they live underground and never see the sun…lol. In a world where trees were the first source of light and dwarves were willed into existence by literal gods. Aight.
@@bubblehulk7647 wouldn't be a big deal if the author doesn't explicitly describe them as white. If they want diverse dwarves or elves, make their own damn show. I would expect the same amount of anger if the Dragon Prince's elves are portrayed as all white by some hack who thinks they're a genius that can improve on it by makin it a representation of medieval germany
The little platoon was a really knowledgeable guest on LOTR you should get him on more often with you to rip the awful rangs of power show apart.
yeah i like him too
never watched his videos before but he was great. def gonna check him out.
Agreed! Intelligent and articulate
Better than disparu and autistic Az
Agreed, his comments regarding the shehulk clip got me listening to the whole podcast
Love that you got The Little Platoon on. His Content is very enjoyable. He has a specific way of putting things that is very refreshing!
loved this Open Bar, great group of people, i wouldn´t mind seeing Little platoon and tyrone magnus a little more often here!
Same
I want Platoon and Mauler to have a voice-off.
Absolutely my Opinion
@@jonbaxter2254 yeah I thought the same xD
Little Platoon is a beast when it comes to insightful commentary without filler or time wasting. Missing any part of his videos means you missed something relevant that is worth hearing.
Finally, the full thing. Great gang in this open bar too!
Yh i hate when theres to many people on a podcast but these guys dont talk over each other and don't irritate me
@@Lucian66642 Yeah as much as I like Gary/Nerdrotic, I cannot watch FNT because there are too many people. Guests often get side-lined on that show even though they should be the focus.
Years ago, my dad told me women love riding horses because it makes their va-jay-jay feel good.
That scene of Galadriel on the horse was the perfect depiction of it.😂😂😂
The Little Platoon was a good find, Drinker. Enjoying his content.
Agreed. Subscribe to his channel! You won't regret it.
The positioning of the icons is pretty funny. Gary looks like he's leaning on the table with his huge left arm, and Little Platoon is leaning back in Drinker's chair
Gary looks like the stereotypical bad yaoi art in this. I love it.
Love seeing Tyrone Magnus on here this was a good one more like this please and bring them back Tyrone and Platoon were great
When he comes back, gotta get that clear microphone hahaha.
But was great to see this.
And what exactly is he adding to video? Useless
@@verazollinger6862nothing absolutely nothing, he’s a reactionary RUclipsr not someone one who breaks down stuff or video essay type content he just ain’t suited to this style of content
10:30 it’s actually worse than you think despite people getting killed in the ice troll fight they actually left with more people than they arrived with.
Didn’t you know that elves are like hydra heads?! If you kill one, two will take their place. I thought everyone knew this! 😉
Also, I object to the false statement that Galadriel’s team did nothing! Not only were they excellent meat-shields, but the sword ramp thing was critical! CRITICAL!
@@neillindgren8992 Hugo Weaving was Elrond and Red Skull
@@neillindgren8992 I gues the stunt crew didnt want to leave on a seperate transport incase they had to fight another hydra?
@@BalrogUdun There you go - he was a hydra head!
So good to see my man Tyrone Magnus on the panel, man's a true hero. You guys are becoming more and more like the Justice League of RUclips movie critics with each new guest. Hopefully he comes back, would love to hear him get involved a little more next time.
Shame, he's not used to talking over/standing his own when he want's to get a point across. He has some genuine insight as well as humor but can't find a window to insert himself into. Glad to see him branch out tho, really hope he get's more opportunities like this and gain more experience.
@jbbj9720 Seriously! Like a fan just observing the heroes at work
I was laughing at the fact that Tyrone was reacting for basically the entire video. 😅
All I can say is if Galadriel is representative of the elves in this show, then I support Sauron and his armies. She is an Insufferable twat. And the rest of the elves are useless! Remember these should be MUCH more powerful elfs in this age, one of the most powerful killed like a DOZEN Balrogs single handledy! Let that sink in.
Real Galadriel was far more powerful than “Guyladriel”, the discount Galadriel in this series. She was a powerful enough sorceress to have supplanted Sauron if she had taken his ring from Frodo, after all. Guyladriel is such a meathead she’d try to eat the ring, probably.
@@neillindgren8992 Yeah- I am real curious what exactly happened to these elves MAGIC?
@@markharc7615 These elves were written by people who either have no clue or don’t care about how Tolkien elves should be. Leaders like Galadriel or Finrod should be ultra-powerful (Finrod should have gone out cutting down scores of orcs, not going out looking like he’s wetting his pants), and even regular elves should be making moves like Legolas, not standing in place like trees waiting for trolls to smash them (of course, since there were more elves after the fight than before, maybe when they get killed two pop up in their place, so maybe that was part of the plan 😉🤣).
@@neillindgren8992 Yeah- they aren't even true to Galadriel in the previous LOTR movies. Maybe they didn't even watch those either.
They remind me of the Thalmor
Very apt comment by the Little Platoon at around 39:00. Tolkien was at The Somme and took part in the assault on the Schwaben Redoubt. That is some serious life-experience, and I have no doubt that the appalling images he will have seen influenced his descriptions of Mordor.
The part where Galadriel says "SNAKES, WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE SNAKES!!!" and then shoots The Invisible Swordsman after plundering and pruning the hedges of many small villages all while valiantly fighting chlamydia, the Silent Killer, made me cry.
When she told the others to stand back and that "it's Galadrin' time"... Chills, man, chills!
Chlamydia, the Silent Killer. 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome to see Tyrone there even though he hardly spoke.
He should return to Africa
@@reek4062 Wow you're so edgy being racist
Tyrone is basically Mr positivity...that can't really be said by the others.
@@reek4062 something wrong with you ngl
the little platoon finally made it! LETS GOOOOOOOO. found him recently and have been watching a ton of his content. really nice to listen to. glad to see him on the show
F. I appreciate the stuff you guys put out there and its always a joy to watch both you and Mauler. Rest in peace Queen Elizabeth.
I remember the wonder and love I felt when in the silmarillion the high king of the noldor stepped foot upon middle earth. It was the first day when the sun appeared above the earth and when it first came it rose from the west, and as the noldo made their first footfalls upon middle earth flowers, for the first time, were blooming beneath their feet.
Tolkien alone could make my heart lift up and alone he could make me weep bittersweet tears. It is a sore blow to see his work manhandled and marred.
I believe it was the moon that rose, when Fingolfin set foot on Middle Earth?
Something that struck me in the rings of power was Nori’s speech to Not Sam about how she was meant to find the man on the crater. In the Two Towers, we can see Frodo turning to corruption when he tells Sam this task is mine, my own. Nori’s starting point in which she is convinced that she’s the chosen one is Frodo’s turn toward corruption. Prime is such a joke that it thinks this is somehow empowerment for females when in LotR the same attitude becomes the downfall of the protagonist
Been binging Platoon's stuff since this livestream. That channel is top notch, even rivalling Mauler and Critical Drinker at their best. You guys should really bring him on as much as possible.
Drinker; 'Its almost like the writers dont know what they are working with.'
Thats exactly the point they dont know, care or want to know anything about it, just write every character like a modern person and if
anyone dares criticize it call them an 'ist or phobe!'
Too bad the Critical Incel doesn't know the substance of Tolkien's writings either.
@@reek4062 incel? Remember when pointing the finger three more are pointing back at you......
Its mainly due to them trying to portray it as women can do no wrong and women are perfect etc which if this were true why wouldnt every doctor and surgeon be a woman if they never make mistakes? Then millions of lives would be saved
@@BackUp-nx2de Yeah, it's always funny when people go "well YOU aren't an expert either so shut up and also you're a poopyhead".
Besides the fact that it's just an ad hominem, it's not even a valid argument to begin with.
You can actually hold people to different standards because they have different responsibilities to live up to, and even if you aren't 100% qualified to do someone else's job* it is still fine to call them out when they're bad at it.
(*The Drinker is probably at least 90% qualified though, given he is a published writer. Obviously novels and TV scripts aren't the exact same thing, but the core ideas of storytelling, like characterization, pacing, and consistency, still are.)
@@themanwithnoname1839 essentially she hulk.
Al Pacino's speech from... Any given movie actually, he's always so great at delievering an emotional monologue.
Hoo-hah!!!
Everyone was awesome. But damn Little Platoon is like an encyclopaedia!
Can’t wait for their take on episode 3 lol. Out of all the combinations of language the writers went with “The Ocean is Always Right” as one of the factions motto… more really inspiring stuff.
Man, imagine you time travel back to 2018 when Avengers: Infinity War was just released and GoT season 8 finished filming.
You find your past self and tell them that MCU is circling the drain, Amazon with its infinite money glitch and rights to (bits of) the LOTR IP is setting mounds of cash on fire, and HBO with its GoT prequel meant to coast on the hype of GoT is actually killin' it right now. They wouldn't believe you... I know for sure I wouldn't believe me.
I no... Although I would still be happy if at least chinese flu did not happen.
The part about She-Hulk that boggles my fragile mind is: How did it get past quality control. Okay, there must have been some red flags or questions marks at the conception stage and someone glossed over it. That happens. Then the scripts came out. No one said "That is not how law works". And given the inconsistencies, no one went over the completed scripts to check for that. Okay... that... can happen to. But then actors and relevant crew members receive the scripts, none of them raise their hand and say "I have a ... multiverse ... of mad questions", no one panic drunk-dials their agent and points out that this could damage their careers. Well... oka-yyyyyy Stupidity happens. But then some episodes got shot... and no one says "well THAT is crappy." and orders a healthy dose of re-shoots?hise popint Disney either assumes their audience is stupid, low-taste and worth no effort worth mentioning... or they have reached critical to terminal incompetence.
The troubling thing appears to be that DID happen. The released show is the improved version, after 2-3 months of additional work... It was supposed to come out alongside Kenobi / Thor, but was pushed back for 'improvements'
Anyone else think that drinker would make a terrific John Constantine? xD
My deepest condolences to you and everyone mourning the queen's death. It's a tragic hour indeed, even though we all knew it would come one day.
Don't be fooled. The majority of us in these islands really don't care that much.
@@rab210 you should, she was an important presence.
@@dreioo8759 I'm supposed to 'mourn' an old multi millionaire and total stranger by diktat? How much mourning did you do when my grandmother died? See the stupidity in your statement?
@@dreioo8759 If you have to tell someone that someone important or legendary, it's likely they arnt...
@@dreioo8759 LMAO mate as someone from England I can guarantee to you she’s not, majority of us don’t give a shit about the Monarchy
When I found out that Sauron has been cutting about, doodling maps to his new hideout everywhere... I mean, yikes.
Could 4 orangutans with a typewriter write better scripts for She Hulk and/or the Rings of Power?
Don't know...........but probably.
Sure, if they're not feminists i.e. blutans
Make it 4 orangutans and 1 giant sloth.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
Hey, I don't want Whoopi Goldberg anywhere near that writers room.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 it'll be more talent than the She Hulk writers.
Most definitely. Even one chimp throwing poop at sheets of paper could come up with better scripts than these people, plus would likely have a more professional demeanor - I’ve never heard of any chimpanzees insulting their fans, after all.
Great intro, y'all probably the only one who can balance seriousness and fun.
I'm not watching RoP, but it just dawned me that I hardly have seen any jewelry. Elves especially were supposed to be very fond of the shiny stuff.
Condolences to my British brothers from a fellow westerner of European descent. R.I.P
F.
I never followed English royalty but I was saddened to hear that the queen is gone. She was on the throne 15 years before I was born. Hearing she was gone is a small reminder that everything comes to an end.
Why feel sad?
Pathetic
Queen Elizabeth II was a deeply fascinating person. A veteran of the Second World War, the last monarch to reign over the British Empire, the last monarch to reign during a Churchill government, and not only the longest reigning British monarch, but the second longest reigning monarch in world history.
And for those who are being arseholes about her death, remember; she'll still be remember by history centuries from now, while your graves are being shoved aside to build a new condo. 🙃
At the very least, she took her role in life seriously and didn't whine, which is more than many of those criticising her have ever done.
@@whenpigsfly8178
Many people out there haven't done jack shite, and are ignorant as a chimp, but boy do they have a high opinion of themselves.
Bold of you to assume modern society won’t collapse and regress back to the dark ages with all history and all graves lost.
honestly she did a pretty good job as a queen for this day and age. All the political and social upheaval the world's seen in her lifetime and she managed to bring a level of calm consistency that helped keep her nation mostly stable through all of it.
‘British Empire’ that right there is why most people are assholes about her and why they couldn’t give a shit about her especially regarding colonialism.
What really bothers me about all of this is the actress that plays Desa was complicit in allowing Amazon to use her race and gender as body armor to deflect all criticism of the show, and label anyone with an opinion they didn't like as a racist.
57:00 The right answer is, "There is always stuff we'd change. As artists we're pursing perfection in the moment and often that changes over time" or something to that effect. "Art is never finished, it's only abandoned."
Really nice touch not to put a happy intro at such a moment. Good taste man, cheers. As you are sharing your reason not to, I will share one of the reasons I respect her: she was friends with one of my great uncles, Freddy Aalbæk, a professional singer who fled Denmark during the war as he was involved with the Danish resistance. They became good friends.
He passed away watching her birthday actually. And he was a very good judge of character. Reason he did not fancy Hitler, as he used to say "a man not of his word" (refering to the fact that Hitler had this penchant for betrayal) or "oath breaker". Freddy was a classical Monarchist, may they all rest in peace.
Very respectful opening gentlemen.
We need more of that.
No we dont
Hell yeah! Nothing like open bar to start my morning.
Amazon said it themselves _when races come together_ Yes. That is all great. The issue i personally noticed with the show is confusion. Confusion because race and the color of someone's skin is because of where they as a people grew up regionally over many, many generations. The timeline in Rings of Power tells the story of a young Earth. I imagine a darker skinned elf grew up in an entirely different region than others, but that is not the case. Everyone is already mixed together. So there is no story of _races coming together_ If they want a world where we don't see skin color for the actual reasons why they exist. That is kinda cool Write a story about that and create your own universe. To take something as old as Tolkien's work Make drastic changes like that, and don't even bother to give a proper explanation. That is what makes it confusing.
The other thing they got wrong about it, is when in LotR the 'races come together', it means Elves, Humans, Dwarfs, Halflings, and so on. Literally different races, and nothing to do with skin color.
In order to make it work, 1) no buzzcut, and 2) make him a half-elf half-haradrim who chose immortality and to be an elf over mortality. And actually do something with that.
Instead, they pretend that genetics and ethnicity don't work how they do in reality.
@@ZillaTheTegu exactly, in Tolkien‘s universe race means species…not different color skin!
If you race-swap a character in Tolkien it would mean making a dwarf an elf, a Hobbit a Numenorean or a wizard into a Southlander
@@lynnm6413 Careful, the writers might actually start doing that if they heard you.
"Do not deadname Durin, she self-identifies as an elf woman and you will call her Elbereth from now on!" (Ow. That hurt to write...)
That's basically what I did in my old D&D world. There were Elves, Dwarves, Humans, etc with different looks, cultures and skin tones to others of the same Race based on where they lived. It makes your world unique.
Diversity in storytelling is a really great thing, and can only enhance your story. Though, if you force it, it'll drag everything else down.
Great to see Little Platoon on here. His content is fantastic, with well-articulated arguments. I'd definitely bring him on for more videos, and suggest that members of the Toxic Brood check him out.
Tyrone Magnus! I've been following him for a few years, so glad you had him on the show!
The note to Daemon said "Brother come home and watch Rings of Power"
Little Platoons way of articulating thoughts is quite impressive
Little Platoon and Mauler with such soothing voices.
10:36 no I think there’s actually an additional elf that joins them after that fight scene. One video I saw showed 8 going into the troll fight then 9 in a scene after. Spontaneous generation I guess?
Elves are like hydra heads. Kill one, and two more pop up.
All the ones that died respawned, but there was a glitch, and they got an extra.
Death is a path we all must take one day fellas, mortality comes at you fast sometimes so leave no stone unturned while you're here..96, old girl had one hell of a run!!.. thanks for all you gentlemen do for us unwashed masses, God bless you and God save the queen..
yeh but do you know why a boat floats and a rock does not?
@@nklin6 if the Queen knew, maybe she’d still be alive RIP
It's not just Viserys who commits to keeping Rhaenyra as his heir. A lot of other houses will support her claim. That's why the war is so bloody. It's not just because of the destruction the dragons cause, but because the realm was actually divided into Blacks (Rhaenyra) and Greens (Alicent/Aegon).
39:00 I think little platoon is here on something, you really need live experience to be able to write good stuff. I always wanted to be an author and watched videos with tips, and one older German author said exactly the same as Platoon.
Who would think you need to do research and have life experience to write stories that resemble life?
The mashup I never knew I needed until I saw it! Love to see Tyrone on the show! Hopefully he can come back for more
Tyrone got the best laugh on the platform, great edition to the cast.
Getting Tyrone Magnus was awesome. One of my fab RUclipsrs!
59:50 Maulers drawings arm in the background perfectly lined up with Garry, making it seem like it was his almost the whole stream which was kinda funny to watch
I can't stop looking at him lol
@@valonrugova8634 I couldn’t either lol
lenny henry never made me laugh at the `best` of times but seeing him in his get up on the cover of radio times had me bursting out laughing in the supermarket the other week. what a croc of
Both Taika Waititi and Rian Johnson are good directors, but even good directors make mistakes. Waititi made some amazing films in New Zealand (What We Do in the Shadows, Hunt for the Wilderpeople) while Johnson directed some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad (Ozymandias). And now they both made one bad movie - doesn't mean they can't make more good stuff in the future.
Little Platoon! Hell yeah.
I’m glad platoon made it here. He deserves to be involved with you guys. Before his channel exploded he was kind enough to message back and forth with me on a comment. I was telling him to get on EFAP but this will do.
I was never really a LOTR fan. I remember going to see the films when they came out but thats all. You guys talking about the lore and such makes me actually want to read the books and try to actually understand the films
Wow I didn't ever imagine such a genuine sombre tone for the queen dying!
Rings of power seems like those TV shows for teens with second tier actors and a easily digestible no brainer script. Pretty good cgi tho
Nerdrotic being down in the bottom right and that arm is messing with my mind.
To assist the down fall of these corporate monopolies faster, because you mention since they have made so much money off ruining these IPs they have prolonged their survival, WE, us fans must create competition. That is how we help them collapse faster.
I'm a fan in the USA I send my condolences to the loss of your queen.
Holy smokes, I think there is about 8 hours of Gary and Mauler talking about Rings of Power on YT, just from this week's episode.
A bit late, but… F 😢 And thank you for the special remembrance for HMQEii in the opening. What an incredible woman and person she was. ❤️🙏🇬🇧
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This may be the best roster for the podcast yet! Thanks for the content
From the USA, sorry about the Queen being gone. Check out the The Beatles when they met the Queen. Great photo.
That part about how arcane was a struggle for that guy to put it all together and was worry as fuck to see it fall apart. Sounds like a creator that ACTUALLY CARES about his work and passion. No wonder it became such a badass hit.
Drinker you have a point about making him watch some old British comedy. Take blackadder goes forth, the end of last of the episode. Where Darling goes the guns have stopped and then says the great war of 1914 - 1917. Then blackadder goes no they have stopped because not even our generals are that mad to shell their own men, they find it more sporting to let the Germans do it. Is funny, but then that moment when the whistle is blown and they go over the top. The jokes stop and they let the moment sink in. Gives me goosebumps ever time I watch it, I go from laughing to crying. That is good writing.
I'd have thought those Brit actors would be insulted to have to deliver such clunky English dialogue. Paper boats that look up, rocks that look down? Where do the scissors fit in?
Or its as Disparu asserts, that its nothing but a paycheck to them. Didn't Sir, Ian McKellen once break down and weep when a role had him sitting alone on a sound stage surrounded by green screen and mocap sensors all over him?
He said all he ever wanted was to be in theater and its come to this, then he cried. What happened to the artists?
To be fair, he was probably rich at the time, and these young actors are probably poor.
Nerdrotic only wears black to claim Mauler's left arm as his own!
Happy to see Tyrone Magnus joining the crowd, I enjoyed his reactions to MCU trailers (back when it still had decent movies) and other random stuff, got more curious about where his channel was going when I saw his recent reactions to Drinker's vids and was hoping he'd eventually get in contact with the gang.
Great episode! Hope to see Tyrone on here more often! I hope, at the end of the day, we can at the very least preserve the culture that fandom has provided the lot of us!
I like Tim Burton's Batman movies, especially Batman Returns. Those movies gave us the animated series.
Little Platoon is brilliant here. Loved his videos, but most people can't hack it in a live conversation. Well done.
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Another great example of creative derivative ideas: Jim Butcher, the author of the Dresden files, was challenged to write an interesting story about Pokémon and the fate of a lost roman legion. The result was an 6 volume epic high fantasy series called The codex Alera. I haven't read it, but it is high on my to-read-list and I've heard that it's really good.
It IS really good! Hope you can get to it soon 😊
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Shadow of Mordor/War did the lore (mostly) justice and (mostly) expanded it in a way that makes me think that it could've happened this way in canon.
Especially their interpretation of Celebrimbor and Sauron was awesome imo.
I might be mistaken, but the durin in the show is the 3rd durin.
The durin of durins bane was durin the 6th.
Gimli was suprised that Moria was abandoned, which implies that it happened recently before the original trilogy, probably within 20 years.
I remember Tyrone being a Coliders Star Wars Jedi Council show years ago 😂😂😂
I was 16 when the Return pf the King came out and i was graduating at the time. My english teacher knew i was a lotr fan as i often did my own sort of deep dives into the further lore of the books and changes made to the movies. She gave me a bookmark with the one ring attached to it, to make it short. I doubt anyone else growing up will ever feel that way with all the garbage hollyweird keeps shoving out.
My family and I started watching the MCU during Covid. There’s a lot I didn’t care for, but by Endgame we were all in. When movies started coming back to theaters we went and saw every MCU movie in the theater with generally each one being worse than the previous (except GoG III). We finally skipped The Marvels as even my 15 year old daughter realized that it was likely to be disappointing. We later watched it on Disney+ and confirmed it was boring, but we finished it. She-Hulk was so bad my daughter refused to watch any more after episode 4.
The Little Platoon is really getting over! He makes insightful and entertaining content and I was incredibly surprised and pleased to see him on Open Bar. Good to see Tyrone Magnus as well, though he looked like he was just enjoying the show a lot of the time. No kick against him. I’d probably be the same if I were on Open Bar. Excellent episode guys!
And thank you, drinker, for getting the "long live the King" statement correct. Most have no clue how to use it properly.
Mauler refers to a nice part of the Telltale Walking Dead game, whic was written so good and at the end you get the percentage of other player that made the same decision like you. Awesome game.
Every time I hear that "Do you know why a boat floats and a stone cannot...", I get an urge to toss a chunk of pumice in water.
I don't think I'm supposed to feel smarter than an elf 😫
You might not be smarter than an elf, but certainly you’re smarter than the writers of this show, and also whoever funded this show, unless they were looking for a billion dollar tax write off.
Steph, what do you think you mean?
Thank God for your take. I've unsubscribed and unfriended so many people today because there are conversations I just can't take part in.
I ended up finally finishing Mauler's Star Wars critiques today.
I have a beer at the ready and glad to sit at the "bar".
Cheers from Japan!
Holbrath/Sauron is turning out to be my favorite character. He's truly interesting and interacts cleverly with the other characters. The rest of this show is utter garbage tho.
Thanks Amazon!
Hopefully he’ll win and take over Not-Middle Earth, because nobody cares if discount Middle Earth loses to him (plus, he actually seems less repulsive than most of the protagonists).
"You ever just wanna be a giant eye?"
😂 😂 😂
I am so happy Little Platoon was on!
Speaking of huge corporate machines. The US military wants innovators but they want people who follow all of the rules. In order to innovate, you must go against the grain. However, going against the grain to go against the grain is also bad. Return to basics, master those, then innovate/branch out.
I think that’s what is wrong with the shows you are talking about. They are trying new things without mastering the basics. As Gary essentially said, learn the lore then branch out little by little.
Mauler's sweet voice would definitely help people through this hard time.
This was probably my favorite open bar so far. Every single one is fantastic but I loved this cast. It was great seeing Tyrone Magnus and I’ve been really loving his reactions to Drinker. Seeing Platoon was so nice to and his commentary was phenomenal. Great work to everyone and keep up the great work.
Nerdrotic, I can't thank you enough for informing me that Drew Goddard was the show runner for Daredevil. I started watching it 2 weeks ago and it's been incredible. Thank you so much!
36:24 Actual creators aren't making these things. It's about money or ideology, so you get boards or co-ops planning and running these projects. Corporate people just want the easiest product turnaround for profit they can get. That means sequels, reboots, and adaptations. Ideologues want to saturate culture with their messaging. That means invading known properties and funding new initiatives. Most things are probably made by both of these groups together, the money-types producing and the ideologues directing and writing, but nowhere will you find a creator who just wants to make a good story and have people see it. Those kinds of people aren't allowed anywhere near these projects, because they don't care as much about the profit margin and don't want ideolgical messaging (except their own) injected into the works.
Al Pacino's "I'll show you 'out of order....'" surely has to be in any Top 5 monologues in film..... Hail the Drinker; you are doing God's work, Sir.