Open Bar #56 - Indy 5 Disaster, New Superman, Kathleen Kennedy "Moving Past" Lucas Star Wars
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2023
- Well, Indiana Jones 5 is finally here, and we've seen it. Join us for our review and box office speculations. We'll also be discussing the new Superman casting, and Kathleen Kennedy's desire to "Move past" George Lucas's vision of Star Wars.
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I can’t be the only one who “watches” Disney content vicariously through these guys?
I haven’t paid (or even pirated) a disney product since 2019’s endgame. That movie was convoluted trash. However I do enjoy watching these fellas talk about it.
However, Secrete Invasion sounds so awful that hearing about it second hand is still torture.
I have no interest in the ‘content’, it wasn’t made for me.
You are not.
@@Mr_Bones. lol
I went to the cinema to watch the first of the Star Wars sequels, watched the the second one at up to the point where Carrie Fisher survived in space and the final one I watched through these guys which was easily my best experience of the three.
The movie is bad, and that's without the original ending with Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war make protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them...
The final nail in misogyny is putting this chick as our new Lara Croft. Removing any sexiness left in the series.
LOL it's not even misogny at this point, it's just destroying any semblance of reason except the WOKEIFIED agenda of "men suck" but "girlboss rules"! Love our girlboss, don't you see how stunning and brave she is?!
She's not playing Croft, she's writing the show, which is probably worst, honestly. Of course, they might kill that after this flops.
Bro you should not call broads chicks
Shes a dude tho 😂
Bro you should not call twats broads
Kathleen Kennedy didn't just turn off the money printer that is Star Wars, she replaced the ink with piss and the paper with shite.
While burning down the building housing the blueprints!!
@@IDYMONDthey're plates, but yeah.
@@IDYMONDand crippling the workers trying to fix it
Gross but accurate.
🤣 Great analogy!
Anyone else notice Lucas gave Indy a son to carry on his legacy...so Disney killed him to make his legacy a stunning, brave, Kathleen Kennedy insert?
They did pretty much the same to Han Solo. Maybe she hates Ford more than she hates Lucas or Spielberg, or the audience...
Except, if you actually watched the movie you would know that is not what this movie does. There’s no setup for anyone to take up the mantle. Well, except for Indiana himself.
You might be better suited forming your own _informed_ opinion on things, rather than parroting these dorks.
@eyespy3001 there was in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Mutt goes to grab his dad's hat and Indy takes it instead, but smiles at him as they walk out. It's strongly implied the mantle will be passed to him. Then, they kill him offscreen and completely sever that line. The moment I knew they did that, I didn't NEED to see this absolute garbage to know what they were doing. Killing his son was already going too far, and then having Marion leave him and making him a broken, boring old man? I'm tired of seeing the heroes I grew up with reduced to that, and by the same studio no less.
If you liked this absolute trash film, you're entitled to like it. Im not gonna mock you for liking something and I'm happy for you that your money was well spent in your eyes, but I DID form my own opinion and that's EXACTLY what I drew from what I saw.
@@eyespy3001 nah, I'll better watch _fun_ stuff, like the drinker & co, and don't give my money to people who hate me.
@@robertbishop7722 See, that’s the thing you’re wrong about- he’s not a broken, boring old man in this movie. Well, he’s old, but that’s a given. At the beginning of the movie, he’s just retiring from teaching. That’s it. He may be weary, but that’s because of his age. He’s never depicted as depressed or lonely. There’s one scene where he’s having a drink in a bar, but that’s because he’s celebrating his retirement. Then the plot kicks in from there and it’s never implied that he’s sad again.
You’re being lied to by these angry dorks because they want you to keep watching them instead of forming your own opinions.
The problem with Disney/Pixar is that they don't make movies for kids anymore. They make them for Disney adults.
They don’t even make them for adults or kids.
They make them for executives.
They make movies for Twitter left wing wannabe activists.
@@a.m.2066what is character development? - Disney writer
They make them to recruit children. For reasons.
And Twitter activists who block anyone who doesn't agree with them
I was done with anything Harrison Ford when he came out and said we are all selfish for destroying the environment, and then proceeds to fly his own plane, probably has his own carbon footprint the size of most american towns...
Done with these hypocrites who know nothing about how the world work, but decided they need to preach to us.
Thank you. I don’t know why people aren’t blaming him more. He could’ve said no to this and crystal skull as well as Star Wars but he wanted the money. He really ruined his own legacy.
@@randomdude189 people is blaming him though...
Environmentalism is kinda the token cause for actors that won't promote lgbt or other stuff. DiCaprio does it, and Joaquin Phoenix too, both without any conviction, like Ford did I presume.
@@marbellaotaiza801 absolutely, good call 👍🏼
character gets happy ending with wife and son.
character loses son, which causes marriage to fall apart.
character becomes detached, disinterested & depressed. a failure.
= both indiana jones & han solo.
@@marbellaotaiza801 like when Leo came to Canada and complained about our Chinook winds.
Learn about climate before you preach, Leo. Lol.
It's insane to me that in ten years of Henry Cavill Superman we only got one single Superman movie........how does that even happen??????
And no batman movie. Leading with batman vs superman as 2nd movie to introduce the character. How dumb is that
Because Henry Caville will not drink the Kool-Aid and spout the company line, so they give him just enough unlike the ones who do sing the company anthem and get film after film like Fleabag Oxbridge (aka phoebe Waller-Bridge).
Eventually, long after KKs death, there will be some exciting documentaries about her blackmail files.
Seriously that really is the most likely outcome. If you just look how far our exposé docs have as entertainment in the modern era it only makes sense that future entertainment will be the most tedious specific uncoverings of truth possible. I’m there for it.
"Reports indicate that the BlackRock Fund has a 4.09% stake in Walt Disney, which equates to 74,577,472 shares valued at $6,479,290,767."
@@Bodwaizer oh god. What if Disney falls into their hands through their own incompetence? They'd end all life on earth.
She has the Epstein tapes.
@@THECOLONEL50she probably filmed them!
I encourage people to look closer at Raiders and Crusade. In both films, Indy never returns with the films treasure, instead he gets much more. He reconnects with the 2 most important people in his life, Marion and his father. The earth will always have its “treasures” but it’s most important things are our relationships with friends and family. These are completely different movies now watching them as adults compared to when I was 12. That’s great storytelling.
The very same thing happens in Dial of Destiny. Indy is reunited not only with Marion, but- more importantly- himself as well. It really was a good movie, despite what these angry nerds want you to believe.
@@eyespy3001 Except Indy in Dial is reunited with Marion because the scriptwriters said so. There are no effort throughout the movie from Indy to reconnect with her. Rey... I mean Helena brings Marion to Indy and it magically works because reasons!
But sure, keep telling yourself that this movie is good with the plot this nonsensical. Good movies don't flop this hard my dude. Even normies don't want to support it.
@@Arko777777 Everything in every movie ever happens because the writer says so 😂
Now, if you’re arguing that it wasn’t earned, well, perhaps. But, perhaps not. The movie isn’t about Indy reuniting with Marion. It’s about him finding the spark that made him love archeology and all the adventures chasing ancient artifacts took him on. It’s about him finding himself again. When he does, Marion comes back, because that’s what she loved about him that he lost after the death of their son. Is it rushed and shoved in at the very end? Yeah, sure. Is it unearned? No. That’s Indy’s entire arc throughout the movie.
I LOVE how absolutely fired up and angry Drinker is.
Feels really cathartic to see him go off on this crap movie.
Indiana Jones and the Diarrhea of Disney...you can only do the cliche woke stuff for only so long.
BREAKING: "Toxic misogynist homophobic and racist RUclipsr Will Jordan trashed and burned down a cinema complex in Glasgow after not liking the screening of "Fleabag Shaw and the Empty Egg Carton". Survivors inform from the emergency room that after the deed, still covered in dust and ashes, the man downed a bottle of whisky in a single gulp and _went away_ loudly singing IT'S OPEN BAR followed by a kind of creature wearing a gas mask..."
@@marbellaotaiza801I do love a happy ending
It's clear that Drinker was a big fan of the Indiana Jones trilogy, cus this time he sounds legit angry
He did get one thing wrong though. Indy has flown planes before, well, at least one. During Last Crusade he and his dad fly a biplane and his dad shot their tail. Great scene.
It almost takes more effort to crash franchises like star wars and indy into the ground than to just make somewhat competent, mediocre sequels. It's actually impressive how they fucked it all up.
Mind boggling
I have been saying that for years. "How do you fuck up starwars?!" If it wasn't so destructive it would be impressive.
"Kathleen Kennedy did great things - terrible, yes, but great.”
- Garrick Ollivander, probably.
At some point this period in Disney's history will get books written about it.
I wish movie theaters would count how many people leave a movie during its run.
I've been to a few where people got up and walked out. I only did it once myself, and to this day I still can't remember what the hell it was....
I walked out of Doctor Strange MoM, it was just too weird and uninteresting
_Cats_ probably wins that contest. Only “cinema experience” I’ve ever walked out of. Not a movie.
I walked out of the original Blair Witch. I thought it was awful before the hype ever could bias me.
I watched it again as a young adult, it still sucked
Doesn't matter, they already gave them money.
They legit could have made a team up with Indy and adult Short Round. I would have loved that.
Imagine the original ending that involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war make protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them...
The movie sucked so they would’ve just been member berries. The core writing vision was the issue.
Honestly would've loved a crossover with The Mummy. Rick O'Connell and Indiana Jones. Fighting mummies in Egypt.
@@RhysCallinan-cg5ww and with Lara Croft. The original one, not the one fleabag is going to "empower".
Yes that would of been alot better...
'Queen of Flop' Kathleen Kennedy must have compromising info on Disney board members. There's no other way to explain how so much ineptitude hasn't resulted in her termination.
Flop House of Mouse
@@dougcrane8031I wonder if she's purposely sabotaging Disney so Lucas's work will always be the best of the franchises.
It's not about making money. It's propaganda
She knows where the bodies are, for sure.
I think ESG plays alot into her continued employment also.
Having a female in a high position looks good for them when they approach the banks for those loans, as it suits their agenda.
As much as you, me and the guy down the block wants to see her gone; it just isn't going to happen until this whole progressive movement crashes and burns.
"YOU ABSOLUTE SPAM SANDWICH" has got to be one of the funniest insults I've seen in a long while.
I cracked up when he lost it over that quote!
In the 1976 film, 'Network', Faye Dunaway played a TV executive whom I think could almost be a template for all the current female writers working at Disney today: she has the attention span of a flea, is hyperactive, unpleasant, unlikeable, a narcissist and as shallow as a worm's grave: she is Empty. She feels no emotion. I urge you to rewatch the brilliant film and tell me I'm wrong!
This latest fiasco from Disney, destroying yet another IP, sounds like it was made by and made for...just such a creature I just described, first seen in 1976...!
Fantastic movie!
Great movie
Nonsense. The Dunaway character knew the audience she was playing to and what they wanted.
That is why she was so successful.
You are just trying to sling personal insults at her and trying connect it to a classic movie to seem intelligent.
@@voodoochile333 Do you want a kiss where it hurts?
Thanks for the suggestion, never heard of Network, I got mommy dearest on Google play, Faye is so bats hit in that movie its iconic . "no wire hangers". When I was 10 I knew if I wanted to upset my mother, all I'd have do is call her mommy dearest in public. I'd never even seen the movie at 10. Beating my ass was legal in the 80's and I had it coming, I was a little shit to my parents.
She got him in the plane, back through the rift, and from Syracuse, Sicily to New York. All before Indy regains consciousness.
To be fair, if I hit an 80yo, I’d never expect them to wake up again.
Exactly! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@samblack5313Joe Biden enters chat. “Put up your dukes you pale faced horse pony.”
@@DerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpDerpThe Greeks never got to use the rift. The Dial's purpose was to bring anybody from the future into the Greek/Roman war so they can help the Greeks beat the Romans. It can't time travel anywhere else.
The original ending involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war make protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them...
When my girlfriend and i saw "Raiders" in 1981, we were holding hands. We gripped so hard that our hands were in pain at the end of the movie. I suspect that wouldn't happen if we saw "DEI of Disney".
"What do they want and how can we give it to them, versus now, what do we want and how can we force it on them." Yup, perfectly sums up Disney the last 5-years.
Probably the best lineup on Open Bar in a few months! Great conversations all around, cheers lads!
Love their content and videos
The Critical Drinker and his friends are THE BEST!
Mr. H is stellar
so glad we finally got Mr. H on the channel.
If there’s an afterlife, I can’t see how KK would be happy in it unless she could spend it demeaning men…
Or protecting ped0s
Haha! Amen!😁🙏
She'd try to recast god as a middle aged woman with pink hair the first week 😂
Brilliant
"You know, Almighty Creator, you and your religions are a bit ... proooblemaaaatic."
My favourite trailer was the Kevin Smith He-Man one. It got me so pumped for the show. Then the synopsis came out. Then the show came out. Lesson learned: trailer's mean absolutely nothing.
You really have to wonder at this point if Lucas and Spielberg did something to Kennedy that made her want to destroy their legacy IPs, and specifically the male heroes they created. Someone’s gotta ask her:
‘Mrs. Kennedy, can you show me on either this Indiana Jones or Han Solo doll where Lucas and Spielberg touched you?’
She "serviced" Spielberg under the table
They did. They told her 'I take mine with cream and two sugars. Chop-chop."
They didn't need to have done anything "real" to her. An imagined offense should suffice...
Choosing Joe Leno's daughter for the role shows nepotism is alive and well in Hollywood.
Wait who are you talking about? Jay Leno famously has expensive cars instead of children
@@TheCapedWanderer it's the chin
@@andim.8788 aahhhhh good point🌛
Didn't Archimedes die during the storming of Syracuse by the Romans? So, Archimedes survives long enough to finish the Dial and end up in an elaborate tomb. That sounds like history has altered.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped."
Also, it's amazing how he managed to make the dial, being as he was somewhat busy trying to defend the city with his parabolic mirrors.
The most depressing thing I read about the Indy 5 was that originally Spielberg was to direct and it would be an Indy/Marion story. I would have been down to see that, even if it turned out to be no better than Crystal Skull.
Dial was good, man. It was fun, and it had the proper feel of Indiana Jones without relying on lame ‘member berries. There’s no attempt made to tear the character down. He’s not disrespected at all. He’s not sad or pathetic. His costars are just that- costars. They don’t upstage him, and there’s no passing of the torch. It’s an Indy film through and through. If Crystal Skull never existed, this would have been a perfect 30-years-later follow up to the original three films.
Fun fact: in the Mummy originally Brendan Fraser's character was going to be a pilot and in a cut scene he and his best friend would be seen hitting a baseball back and forth with each other with bats mid flight in 2 red baron style planes
Noice
The original ending involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war make protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them; even killing hither before the inglorious basterds...
I'll tell you this, the movie was bad, but the opening 20 minutes were actually really good. It was like I was watching a REAL Indiana Jones movie, back when he was in his prime.
Yeah, the opening minutes is the best part from what I’ve heard
Probably because movie theatres don't give refunds after about 20 minutes.
That's what you call a 'Bait and Switch'
I don't get why people say the first 20 minutes are good, it's too dark to see clearly and for no reason, the action is just okay and the CGI in Harrison Ford is the best attempt at a digitized face Disney has made, yes, but you can still tell the difference at first glance to a real life face. Is it because people had such low expectations even a mediocre segment looks good?
I have seen worse movies, shockingly it was better than I thought ( my expectation were really low). My wife liked it, she put it ahead of Crystal Skull and Temple of Doom. I'm drawing up divorce papers monday!
I hope Drinker and Mr. H do videos together more often.
When someone hates you, they won’t listen regardless of what you have to say.
There is no discussion to be had with these people.
Have you read Don't Give Money To People Who HATE You?
The saddest part is that it's not that hard to write a sunsetting-story for an eighty years old Indiana Jones.
Prologue:
Indiana is retired. He occasionally still holds seminars as a guest lecturer at the university, but otherwise he's not doing any more adventuring, and he has a reputation at campus as this kooky old professor with a lot of tall tales. For exposition, we use one of the students asking him about his adventures, and why he isn't out there doing adventure archeology anymore, and Indy would tell them that there are three reasons: there's no clear-cut bad guys from whom he has to protect these supernatural treasures, due to that, there's no rush and no reason to discover and hide/protect/destroy them ASAP, and last, but not least, he's an old man and his whip-cracking days are behind him.
Act 1:
The next day, a group of modern adventurer types show up at his doorstep. Sweatshirts, gun holsters, etc. Pretty much a group of Nathan Drake/Lara Croft expies, led by a young and charismatic german guy (also, explicitly Jewish, for later payoffs) and with Phoebe Whatshername as the second-in-command. They are doing the kind of globe-trotting adventures Indy used to do, and they are here for his expertise, because they found the trail for the Dial of Destiny, an artifact that would let the user see into the past, and since Indiana is the most famous archeologist specialized in this kind of work, they seek him out.
We quickly establish the character dynamics. Indy is tired and jaded, but humors the youngsters. Leader guy is obviously respectful of Indy, read all his books, and believes in the supernatural. Second-in-command woman is much more skeptical, and considers Indy a fraud and mistrusts him.
At first Indy refuses the call, but then leader-guy sells it to him on the premise that if the legends are true, then it could be used for all kinds of discoveries about the past, and if it's just a trinket, it will still look nice in a museum exhibit. He also plays into Indy's ego, and at last, he picks up his hat and agrees to be their mentor.
Act 2:
They go on the globe-trotting adventure, and while there are a couple of action scenes, they mainly focus on the younger characters, while Indy is just being pragmatic in the background. They encounter some local criminal types, who seem to have a connection to leader-guy (establishing him as a more morally grey character than initially thought), as well as another treasure-hunting group on the way, and tensions keep rising. However, the main focus is on the relationship between the three main leads. Leader-guy seems to worship Indy and hangs on his every word, but Indy seems suspicious about his intentions yet keeps up a friendly facade. Second-on-command woman blindly trusts leader-guy, but doesn't like Indy, and argues with him about the supernatural, and Indy seems to like her more and entertains these debates, trying to teach her some life lessons.
We also have a pivotal scene, where the three leads sit down while waiting for something, and talk about what they would use the Dial for. Indy talks about how he would probably open a window to ancient times and observe things like the Minoan culture we know comparatively little about. Second-in-command lady is more pragmatic, and say that she would use it to observe the past shady dealings of politicians, and use them for blackmail, which Indy disapproves of, calling it a terrible misuse of such power, and warns her that he had seen many small-minded megalomaniacs try to use such artifacts for their own benefit and learn to regret it. Then, when it would be leader-guy's turn, he says he would change the world, but doesn't elaborate, and then they move on.
Then, at the end, they track down the location of the Dial and go through a classic booby-trapped complex (in this case, it's Archimedes's hidden workshop in Sicily) and find the Dial of Destiny, which sparks a conflict. It turns out that the Dial can not only show someone the past, but send them there. However, it's an one-way trip. Indy and second-in-command lady realize it's too dangerous and that they shouldn't play around with it, though for different reasons. Indy knows how destructive and unpredictable these things can be, so he leans towards caution, while the woman doesn't believe in the supernatural, and so thinks messing with the Dial is frivolous and would damage it. Leader guy, on the other hand, seems to be obsessed with it, and gives a speech about how he could use it to right the greatest wrong that ever happened to his people.
Turns out, leader guy knew about the time-travel thing and planned to use the Dial to go back to 1930s Germany, kill Hitler before he rose to prominence, and using his future-knowledge, gain control of the nation and prevent WWII. However, as he keeps talking, he gets more unhinged, talking about how he would then dismantle the Soviet Union, the Japanese Empire, China, and even the USA to stop their future atrocities from ever happening, which Indy notes sounds both like the ravings of a megalomaniac, and about three other world wars. He then uses his whip to knock the Dial out of Leader Guy's hand, it falls to the floor, breaks, and causes all of them to be transported back to Ancient Greek times.
Act 3:
They are now in the same place, but a different time, and hearing the commotion, a bunch of guards rush in. Leader Guy escapes, because he has a gun, while Indy and second-in-command woman get captured. Luckily, Indy is an archaeology professor, so he speaks (or rather, writes) fluent ancient Greek, and manages to communicate with the guards and cause them to stand down.
Then, a middle-aged Archimedes shows up, and they talk about the Dial (long story short: it's maybe-magic-maybe-alien-tech that Archimedes found and reverse-engineered), and that they need to stop Leader Guy before he could cause any problems in the time-stream. Second-in-command lady is still shocked, angry, and a little panicked, while Indy is fascinated, because he can now witness ancient times with his own eyes, which causes them to bicker, but the second-in-command lady slowly thaws to him and starts taking his "tall tales" seriously.
In the meantime, they realize that they don't need to look for Leader Guy, because he will naturally seek out Archimedes to get the Dial of Destiny of this time period and use it to complete his plans. They set a trap for him, things get complicated (as always), Archimedes gets taken hostage, but by working together, Indy and second-in-command woman manage to outwit him (something about how setting the date on the Dial is counter-intuitive, because there's no unified calendar or BCE/CE in Archimedes's time), and trick leader guy into sending himself back by something like 1 million years. Doing so uses up most of the Dial's power, and Archimedes says that if the two of them use it to return to their own time, it will completely run out of juice. Indy realizes that this would cause a time-paradox, so he tricks second-in-command lady and sends her back to the future, leaving it with just enough charge so that it could activate in the future and close the time loop.
When she arrives, she finds the broken Dial, and she also discovers that there's a storage compartment under the pedestal that held the Dial, where she finds Indy's hat, his whip, and a hand-written letter for her, explaining Indy's motivations, and telling her that exploring the Ancient Greek city states with his own eyes is the best retirement plan he could've ever hoped for, and laments that he would've loved to have her as a student at the university.
Epilogue:
We cut a few years later, with a newspaper headline about it being the five years anniversary of Indy's disappearance, and how it's a mystery. Then, we zoom over to the university, where the dean is taking an application for an archaeology teacher job, and then the camera pans over and shows second-in-command lady carrying Indy's hat and telling the dean that he was her teacher for a short time, and she wants to continue his legacy by joining the faculty. Roll credits.
I still think it is not really correct to say we don't have clear cut evil guys in the cod war the Soviet Union or the Maoist China was pretty unhinged at times and pretty much megalomaniac even if our modern media doesn't depict them this way. But otherwise it is a much better base idea then enything in this movey.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 Doesn't this movie take place in the early 90s?
No.
This is worse than the actual movie, especially the ending.
If the goal is to have a character retire, then just have him/her retire! There is no need to replace characters.
@@Horvath_Gabor It is not, if I understand correctly it is in the time period of the moon landing.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 Ouch. Since Indy was in his 30s during WWII, I just automatically presumed that, since Harrison Ford is 80 now, it means it should be about 50 years later, and so the movie should be taking place in the 90s...
The proper way to handle old Indiana would be to make him take less risks because he is a happy grandfather with shit to lose if something goes wrong on an adventure. It’s also fucking criminal that the dial of destiny wasn’t used as a gimmick for one final young Indiana Jones in his prime fist fight to stop the villain or pull a captain America and put him in modern times 🤦🏽♂️
What about short round's archeological adventures in Asia and India after he left Indy? He's become a professor of Asian history and like his old mentor an adventurer.
There's menacing bad guy groups in Asia during that period and there is so much Asian lore/religious stories to make a couple of really good Indy style movies. Plus you have an Asian lead and it would be sell-able (depending on how you treat the Chinese and the cultural revolution of the same period). Have short round as the lead and have Indy have a POSITIVE cameo.
Such a lost opportunity.
India is in Asia bro
@@marbellaotaiza801 it's in south asia. they're talking about central/east asia.... Nobody's saying India isn't in asia
At some point we have to hold Ford accountable; he's allowed them to destroy Han and now Indy. Used to be one of my favorite actors, now...? I kinda don't care for him anymore. Also, PLEASE do more Happy Hours with Mauler!
In a weird way I can respect how open Ford is with how much he doesn’t give a toss about anything
He needs another plans to crash, that's why he needed the money.
1:06:24 The moment the Drinker began contemplating ending it all :D
Has a gun nut I wonder what tool he had in his hand. All I can tell is that the pistol as a browning tipping action. Which doesn't really narrow it down at all 😅
Drinker, thanks for having Mr H Reviews, you and him are two of my go-to's for information, it was sweet to see both of you on the same deal and getting the 411 on the shitshow of entertainment we're being shoveled
Disney chose… poorly.
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Teddy is supposedly the Short Round for Helena I think. There's a part about Helena discussing with Jones how they met, because she caught the kid stealing from her. Didn't Short Round try to snatch Jone's wallet too on their meet?
love hearing Fringy! always great to see him in the lineup!
I think we can safely predict that Deadpool 3 will be the worst of the three because of the writer's strike and Ryan Reynolds not being allowed to ad lib.
Boo!
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. “Yes, I think I smell shite.” Love those little bits in drinker videos.
Best-meme-ever.
Trying to explain the logic in a garbage committee movie is like arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
I worked on this film as a Trainee and everybody felt that this project was gunna bomb
Leave Indiana Jones alone, if they wanted to create a franchise send on old action serials then they definitely could have done that and with enough creativity and film making prowess it could have been serviceable. The problem is mainly that people at Disney do not have the talent to make good films.
Too late for that.
It was doomed from the moment they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge of Lucasfilm.
Holy crap! I just figured out the whole equation!
Kennedy viewed Lucas (and maybe Spielberg) as cranky, senile old white men the entire time she was “forced” to work for them. When she was handed the keys to the castle, her revenge was to turn the entirety of LucasFilm on film into the literal manifestation of cranky, senile old white men. She couldn’t put them in their place as a young white woman so she created characters to do it for her...to both their creations she altered to fit their image.
I'm certain sucking off Spielberg and probably Lucas under the table and the only reason those two tolerated her was because they needed Frank Marshall's cash, contributed to her disdain of her "friends" and their creations
Better late than never. Glad you figured it out.
@@umiluv Late? Never seen a single person put forth that as a theory before.
@@SumDumGy Drinker himself described pretty much that back in the Rey days.
@@alianablue I have no recollection of that but I’ll take your word for it.
You know what would save Star Wars at this point? Disney being so broke that they literally have no other choice but to sale off the franchise.
The bit where the drinker yelled “WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ASK HIM IF HE COULD FLY THAT PLANE THEN!?” Had me cracking up 😂😂
If there aren't buried bodies someplace, it might just be a sadly simple case of Kathleen Kennedy being a 'yes-man' type secretary throughout her early life and giving her bosses the wrong impression with all that nodding she probably did in response to whatever floated her way.
When I heard Spielberg describe her as being horrible at taking notes and interrupting with useless suggestions, I stopped being concerned with her shockingly terrible decision-making. I was more worried over who the hell decided to put a broken dictaphone in charge in the first place.
I always thought she just handled logistics, I very much got that impression she was never present in the creative process behind the scenes documentaries, or was camera shy if the former, when Hurricane Enki hit Hawaii during the filming of the original Jurassic Park she was booking flights for people before and after, it's on RUclips.
@@johnmcternan4157she was the real-life Dennis Nedry.
Fringy improves every movie conversation he's in. We need more episodes with the froggy plague doctor.
I only go into a movie expecting the feeling of "what happens next" because I know none of them can write a complete, self-contained story. Everything must be a 3+ movie franchise now or it won't get made at all. Partly why I haven't seen a new movie in 5yrs.
Oddly enough, the version of Superman and Lois I've been enjoying the most lately is the CW show by that exact name. It's a very nostalgic and wholesome take on Superman, and the actors that play them are both fantastic. It's set after they've been married for years and have kids, which makes it unique from a lot of other versions of superman, and my favorite part is that it shows such a healthy depiction of marriage and family relationships. They argue, but they also clearly love and respect each other and they communicate clearly rather than being passive aggressive or manipulative. There are some cheesy elements to the show, of course, but it's WAY better than most other CW shows (or pretty much any other superhero movie in recent years, for that matter) and I've enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to... mostly because it doesn't expect me to root for characters that are evil or stupid.
Disney strictly only caters to the ESG score
Old Disney was everyone
Modern Disney is for the executives
I’m extremely glad that people have started waking up to the evil of the ESG agenda now
Clint Russell (Liberty Lockdown), Marty Bent, and James Lindsay have done a heroic job of raising awareness
Nerdrotic has been outstanding too regarding the effect of ESG on pop culture increasingly over the past decade
Any film that is eligible for an Oscar, is a work of racial discrimination.
@@JeThoreau_behind Nerdrotic's beard there's not a chin, only more beards.
The Indy thumbnails from all the videos are hilarious, I can never take the character seriously again. So, I guess mission accomplished KK.
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Drinker you're an absolute classic along with your co classics as well. The money you all save us in not watching crap is priceless. May the Drinker whiskey be with you all into future episodes. Keep them up.
Happy to report I drank too much last night, fell back asleep to the available sections of this episode, then woke up to this being available. Back to bed.
KK has been in Hollywood Since the first Indy film.
I am quite certain she's got dirt on A LOT of people .
None the least of which would be Lucas and Spielberg.
You’d think dirt on Lucas or Spielberg wouldn’t really be worth much. Lucas is retired and reclusive and Spielberg isn’t cranking out movies left and right anymore. And frankly finding out Spielberg was a scumbag thirty years ago isn’t going to make me dislike Jaws or classic Indy.
Im honestly dumbfounded that Kennedy has buried two massive franchises and still has a fecking job, she must have amazing blackmail material!
Don't be, friend. KK is a know-nothing puppet simply fulfilling the Puppet Masters' Agenda.
The only thing that Rey, as a character, acomplished, was making her specific hair style popular for like two months (because it was summer and it was convinient).
She also ensured the supremacy of the Palpatine bloodline over the Skywalker. No small feat.
Why would Archimedes make a wormhole way up in the air, over 2000 years before flight?
Dunno, but it smells alot like JJ Abrams and his Mystery Box bullshit
@@pimphandduke8447 yes, I definitely smell some shite.
It's even funnier. He didn't make them... he build a compass to point out to them 2000 years before anyone can even reach them...
Hearing about short round and Indy in a movie today would be amazing sad what they put out there .
The three writers have good resumes. Mangold is a good director. It’ll be interesting to learn how KK destroyed this entire project…
Yeah idk how this is the guy that did a masterpiece like Logan
To Quote Captain Picard: There are Only 3 Indy Movies!!
Can't wait for the Air Force One sequel, where we learn President Marshall was impeached after the events of the first film and is despised by much of the country. His wife left him, and all his children are dead or hate him.
Brilliant! That would go down just like his third Jack Ryan film, where he's a mumbling, useless, old analyst whose miscalculations almost get America destroyed if it wasn't for the diverse female middle-aged operative with a British accent, that bosses him around telling him what to do, and eventually saves the day.
The Man who Killed Hitler and then the Bigfoot isn't too bad as a B movie. The first 2/3 are solid, then it hits you with Bigfoot and ends on a pretty pleasant note.
Would definitely recommend watching it on general principle.
I liked the original ending that involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became the Retcon Girl, so she went to collect the Shankara Stone, The Arc of The Covenant, and The Holy Grail, but with all that power and awesomeness she became Miss Multiverse, and went to turn Lara Croft into a strong character while taking from her the Triangle of Light, El Gato from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, the mummies of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines, and with the machine gun to embarrass every WW2 and WW1 and Napoleonic war make protagonist by taking down all the nazis in those movies before them...
My family really enjoyed that movie.
Looks like it was shot entirely in a studio, cheap as hell. Where did all the money go? 😅
That de-aging stuff can't be cheap. Someone is there optimising pretty much every scene, lighting etc.
Cgi more expensive than anything else in hollywood
I rewound and watched this 3 times on Thursday. Good show. Good job to all involved.
Sorry but I’m still laughing at the Drinker’s comment “you absolute spam sandwich!” 🤣
My son and I went to the movie…11 people in the theater…we went MST3000 on it! More entertaining than the movie!
They face swapped Chris Pratt's face onto Indiana Jones and not going to lie and say I don't want to see a movie.
I would see 1 movie with Chris Pratt as a young indy
Thank you SO much for covering this movie, Drinker, good on you! This movie and the subject matter it addresses needs to be promoted as much as possible. Why indeed, does Hollywood seem intent on minimizing it's impact? Well said, sir. Kudos!
I dont know why they didnt have him hunt down any number of lost treasures through antiquity. There is a list of 100s of items long of missing relics and items through history, many of which are tied to mythology and the supernatural.
Yes perfect ending to a weekend fun outside. Cheers gentlemen 🍻
Always love Open Bar
Lucas only handed the reins to her because he had given her a full plan for a bunch of movies, notes on how things should pan out and would act as creative consultant. She agreed to abide by that, then immediately stabbed him in the back.
Don’t ask questions, just consume product, then get excited for next product 😂
character gets happy ending with wife and son.
character loses son, which causes marriage to fall apart.
character becomes detached, disinterested & depressed. a failure.
= both indiana jones & han solo.
lucasfilm dismantled and poisoned both of harrison fords iconic, legacy characters using the same exact formula. humiliate & destroy the man. remove his son, remove the love of his life, then bury him with feminism. the disrespect is insane. but some ppl just larp it up & clap like seals.
One of the less talked about problems with the new Star Wars was the destruction of Luke's Jedi Academy. It was supposed to be the intergenerational legacy of Luke, and from a story perspective allowed for the telling of a wonderful new set of stories.
I would have loved to have followed Leia's twins on adventures around the galaxy while they were not yet full Jedi Knights, coming of age in the shadow of their uncle. That's great story telling potential right there. And the beauty of an Academy setting is that it can allow for lots of different characters who interact with each other over long periods of time. And Disney killed it.
Not to mention some of us grew up with these characters, so if Disney wants to play on nostalgia...
Don't worry. They're stealing... I mean reimagining this for the Rey movie! Aren't you excited to see Rey train Rey 2.0 and a boy that will turn to the dark side because he's jealous of powerful women? Jeez, I can't wait for this masterpiece!.
1:21:00 I LOVE that they're essentially trying to blame the Disney SW franchise on George, even though his own outline was about Luke.
The 'F U' to KK, LF and the writers at the end was the chefs kiss.
Can we please fire KK from a canon into the sun now?
She looks like female Adrien Brody.
9:55 I saw Der Untergang at a small theater. The looks on people's faces after the lights cane on, nobody was having fun. Except for my military history friend, and I. 😅
Your description of the core idea of the Roman battle reminds me of the anime Gate, where they mow down an entire army using modern weaponry. Only that this was actually depicted realistically in the confines of the world
Friends don’t let friends go see Indy 5
The best friend: “DO NOT GO SEE INDY 5!”
open bar yay !! Best theme song ever !
Fringy plus Disparu! So cool! Mr H seem bery classy, love it, great Open Bar, Thank you!
Omg, I can't believe I found it after all these years. My VHS version cut off just before Tri-Ax-Con fell into the black hole. Finally, I got to see the last few minutes 😂
1:55:10 That super chat about the cake and the d**k wss legendary.
What's the timestamp?
@@JRO_studios199 1:55:10
Disney executive: 'presses random show name generator ten times and hands the names to the creative director'
"here are the new shows, make them happen, make them woke and make all the lead male characters look like weak, useless, idiots."
Creative director: "do you think anyone will actually want to watch this crap?"
Disney executive: "yes they will, these people are idiots and will watch anything"
I have been confusing airplanes for dragons my entire life. I am a bit of a mess.
Raiders of the Lost Ark started with Indiana Jones trying really hard, but failing. He lost that gold statue to the French archaeologist.
Drinker + Mr. H? Hell yes!
Disney Indiana Jones? Hell no.
Conclusion : Lucasfilm is still showing the middle finger to his original creator (Lucas), and now to his best friend (Spielberg).
They still have "Red Tails" in stock 😁
And Monkey Island. Gore verbinski is rumored to be working on the adaptation.
@@marbellaotaiza801 They've already licensed Monkey Island to Rare for inclusion in Sea of Thieves. Given how erratic the results of the PotC license crossover was, it'll be of extremely variable quality scene-to-scene and overall entirely forgettable. RIP Guybrush Threepwood
@@stoneymahoney9106 that's sad to hear, but at least it's off verbinski's hands. F
Imagine punching an old man in the face who has already been shot in the chest by someone else.
the concept of Indiana jones: modern adventurer/archaeologist encounters the supernatural of ancient religions and cultures, keeping powerful ancient relics and magical abilities out of the hands of people and organisations that seek to use them to do evil.
I love this content. It’s fun
I was just watching the last episode of the grand tour...OMFG give Andy Wilman a movie deal, I don't give a fuck what movie/franchise it is just give him something... anything...give him a story and ooodles of money..
I haven’t watched anything Disney related since end game, that was the ending I needed for Disney.
30:10 the giant black holes that pass for brains. Well said, drinker. Bravo. Skal!
All these bois are Legends to me. Keep up all your good works fellas, you are all appreciated and admired. Cheers.