I've got a Canon 50MM f/1.2 and I can tell you that if you're doing work in low light situations, like churches and conventions, you WILL notice that extra light coming in, even over an f/1.4. Thanks Sigma! You've consistently made great lenses!
Lol people complain about Chris shooting fast lenses at F4. Next video, Chris's first image of the 50 f1.2 is shot at f8. Way to stand up for your ways Chris 👏
It's crazy how few images most actual properly professional photographers and videographers actually shoot anything at as shallow as f1.2 or even f1.4, even if they have the lenses (most do). Still, if you're pulling in $$$$$$ for your work, it's worth it for the rare times you do, makes your shots at f2 or f2.8 sharper, and a few grand written off on taxes isn't going to impact you much
@@ulyssessait I'm hoping for a Sigma 85 1.2 and if it is similarly well sized and weighted, I'll replace my Sigma 105mm 1.4 with it. Even though I only use the 105 for planned photoshoots, it still is a bit unwieldy. I'm sure with a 85 1.2 the bokeh and aesthetic will be pretty similar and well worth the handling gains.
@@zegzbrutal I guess you loose autofocus. not sure. I use sony aps-c so for me it's just a matter of not having a full frame body to have actual f/1.2 aperture.
@@willemdebeer2507 Me, being a tech guy. Hated it so much when my sub feed got flooded with tens of new camera, lenses, phone, PC accessory etc exactly the same time.
I have Sigma's 24-70 f/2.8 A for my Sony camera and I love it. It's a great lens, and a LOT cheaper than the Sony version! I have the Sony 50 f/1.8 and rarely use it because of the 24-70. As cool as this lens is, I dunno if I'd really ever use it, rather have to force myself to find reasons to use it.
I also have the Sony 50mm f/1.8 and I also rarely use it - because I hate it, haha. Terrible focus at night (very disappointing, since focus is possibly the best thing about the Sony system) and not very sharp at wider apertures. If I need the light then I almost always go for the 20mm f/1.8 (amazing lens!), unless I don't want the dramatic perspective distortion (but I usually do). I think this 1.2 would complement the 24-70 much more than 1.8, especially for the bokeh. Might not make so much sense if you already have an 85mm prime, though.
If we are talking best 50 for L mount (Leica - SL2-S body) which would be better image-quality-wise - the Sigma or the SL 50 APO (considered as the best 50mm ever created)? Many say the SL50's look isn't like a f2 lens, especially the out of focus areas and falloff. It's more like a 1.4 with incredible sharpness and zero aberrations.
Gents, great review, but the Shure mic's sound rough from this end. A few other folks here in the comments have also noticed it. Based on the conflicting results people are getting with the quality of the Shure MoveMic, I'd love if someone could get to the bottom of the mystery!
When we are getting the 40mm F1.2? I do like this one and just I like the 85mm. Finally we are seeing a F1.2 prime Sigma and hopefully this is a thing to come. Let's if Sigma has replacement for 105mm f1.4 and 135mm F1.8.
Oh wow....Chris Niccolls into his natural habitat...with a nifty-fifty, this time, the best from Sigma as 50mm so far. Fine video, Chris - and greatly made by Sigma.
@PetaPixel it would be great if you guys would start testing lenses for internal reflections. It was never really a concern for me until I started noticing it in product shots on white, especially a dark object. The Sigma Art 24-70 has it particularly bad and I no longer use it for product work because of this. I am sure other people would be interested to know this since that photo category is in such high demand now.
Sony shooters should be more upset that Sony throttles third party lenses on their fast shooting cameras. That’s like PlayStation only allowing their first party studio’s to utilize the full power of their PlayStation hardware. It’s anti competitive and disenfranchises great third party manufacturers like sigma and others who make unique and premium glass for their mount adding to Sony’s versatility and overall appeal to shooters looking to buy into the system.
Most people shooting a9/a1 aren’t overly concerned since they already own GM lenses. The scenarios they settle for 3rd party lenses they’re not looking for 15+ fps
@@encryptededdywe need to make this a bigger issue. The more competition we can encourage on the mount, the better results we’ll see from manufacturers in terms of performance and value. And, sigma is working their butt off and Sony would be wise to treat them with the respect they deserve for adding so much value to the E-mount ecosystem. My goodness, this 50mm 1.2 lens is impressive, and may beat out the GM variant in most categories, save autofocus. (And again, that may be the result of proprietary compatibility) as an A1 shooter who shoots mostly on gm glass, Sony’s throttling truly does deter me and other from more seriously exploring third party options like this beautiful lens. Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with this one, in a similar way to Canon.
What Sigma hasn’t figured out yet for me is color and micro contrast. Everybody talks about sharpness, and the Sigma is right there with the Panasonic, but what you’re paying for with the Panny is beautiful color and perfect contrast. Hardly anyone talks about that.
Very impressive lens . For most photographers the 50 1.4 is still a great choice, question is do you want to pay 40 procent more to get .2 more light and a little better performance even tough the 1.4 is very sharp to? I would
I love my Sigma 50mm 1.4 I bought it last year to use it for weddings and it's more than enough than I need, but I'm sure this lens is amazing as well. I'm glad they were able to push the limits of what they can do. I'm really just waiting for someone to give me a F2 24-70 for E Mount because that's what I need more than anything.
Thanks!!! Looks really good, even though maybe a bit to sharp. But it seems as if Panasonic gear is simply amazing. The color, pop, contrast - really special@@PetaPixel
I wish the 35mm f1.2 could get the same size adjustment. I’m still in the converted dslr series of sigma lenses looking to upgrade especially my enormous 85 f1.4.
How about a real comparison with the Sony GM f1.2? Maybe you could measure t stops or at least compare scenes shot a the same aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Is one lens brighter than the other?
$550 more than the 50mm 1.4 DG DN I have - and all the shots I've seen, I prefer the images from the 1.4. One good thing, while this is only 75 grams (670 vs 745 grams for L mount) heavier, it's just 2.8 mm larger diameter and actually 0.7 mm shorter - nice that it can fit in the same camera bag, but can it match the 35mm 1.2's rendering being this much smaller and lighter?
Looks like the Panasonic 50mm 1.4 still has better image quality ( lack of CA ) and no focus breathing, but the weight saving and price will be worth it for most.
Thank you for this informative video. I would be interested in learning about auto-focus performance on either a Panasonic or Leica compared to their own branded lenses.
You guys mentioned the lack of close focusing on this lens… is it that hard to make lenses that are always able to focus closely? This seems like an odd limitation to have in lenses these days. Could just be me though!
I own a Voigtlander Norton 50 1.2, which is definitely softer @f/1.2 than the sigma one, as compared to the beautiful portraits Chris showed in this review
All my sigma lenses are my go to for client work. If I hadn’t just bought half a dozen vintage 50mm primes, I might consider this art lens 😂. Well done sigma, proving once again that sigma and beautiful glass belong in the same sentence.
can I suggest an alternative that is faster, lighter, a joy to use and has gorgeous Bokeh? Just over a year ago I paid $399 for a lens from China that had received rave reviews. Mr. Ding Noxlux 50mm. f1.1. It weighs 385 g, is 5cm/2" long and is metal construction. If you either enjoy and are able to use MF (easy on a Sony), this is an interesting option.
It's not a DN though, it's the DSLR version with an MC-11 built in. The resulting size and weight is why I don't own it. If they made a proper DG DN mirrorless version, I'd preorder for sure.
Only recently they mastered making light and sharp lenses. They mostly were already very sharp, but very heavy. 50mm is one of the easiest focal length to make so no surprise that it's sharp. Now let's hope they make a v2 or v3 of all their lenses just to make them lighter.
Hey thanks for the video, can you help be decide if i should go with GM 50mm 1.2 or art 50mm 1.2, im trying to use it for wedding photography, and if you can recommend me another lens from what i have mentioned thatll Be appreciated, mind you that i just started photography and im Still learning, thank you
It has a nice price too. Too bad it won't be in the Z mount. They might make a f/1.4 version of this for Nikon later. I haven't seen much from Sigma for Nikon.
I was in these locations in Calgary just a few days before this was filmed. It would have been fun to bump into you guys and see this lens! Thanks for the helpful reviews. Keep up the good work guys!
Brilliant lens, but for the price: I'd get the f1.4 version! I'm sorry but the price difference is another lens I can buy. For Pros, absolutely but for amateurs f1.4 is perfectly fine!
Cannot stand the shiny bit of plastic between the aperture ring and the lens mount. No idea why they don't make it the same matt colour as the rest of the lens
As someone who's mostly using film era lenses, I always have a bit of a laugh when someone describes one like this as "compact" ;) Yeah, more lens elements, autofocus motors and so on, but still, these are anything but compact.
Wait, "don't go above 15fps and expect continuous autofocus (on Sigma lenses)"?. See, I was going to complain that you seldom talk about video issues with lenses, but was going to keep quiet as I am not "the expert".
The kind of lens that makes you wish you didn't own a canon body. I guess we'll see which happens first, sigma lenses come to rf or I get the money to switch systems
I've got a Canon 50MM f/1.2 and I can tell you that if you're doing work in low light situations, like churches and conventions, you WILL notice that extra light coming in, even over an f/1.4. Thanks Sigma! You've consistently made great lenses!
Lol people complain about Chris shooting fast lenses at F4. Next video, Chris's first image of the 50 f1.2 is shot at f8.
Way to stand up for your ways Chris 👏
I was thinking the same thing before I saw your comment. I just knew some people were going to freak out, which is hilarious.
New photographers: Shoot everything at the tightest F-stop
Experienced photographers: I learned to use all the F-Stops
It's crazy how few images most actual properly professional photographers and videographers actually shoot anything at as shallow as f1.2 or even f1.4, even if they have the lenses (most do). Still, if you're pulling in $$$$$$ for your work, it's worth it for the rare times you do, makes your shots at f2 or f2.8 sharper, and a few grand written off on taxes isn't going to impact you much
@@goo-o8g It's great to have the option, important to know when and how to use it
The only time I used widest aperture is when it is a lowlight. Bright daylight, F4 is the best.
Finally! Didn’t want the GM, due to price. This is it! I’ve found my 50mm. Definitely pulling the trigger on the art series. Great review
Sigma have been killing it for years now
all third parties lenses are becoming fantastic... Tamron, sigma and even cheap lenses like Viltrox are so exciting for budget shooters
85 art DGDN is their best lens for me. way sharper than 85gm
@@ulyssessait I'm hoping for a Sigma 85 1.2 and if it is similarly well sized and weighted, I'll replace my Sigma 105mm 1.4 with it. Even though I only use the 105 for planned photoshoots, it still is a bit unwieldy. I'm sure with a 85 1.2 the bokeh and aesthetic will be pretty similar and well worth the handling gains.
if I had a full frame sony body, this one would already be in the checkout cart. excellent job sigma
No cap
If you use Nikon Z, you can still adapt this lens
@@zegzbrutal I guess you loose autofocus. not sure. I use sony aps-c so for me it's just a matter of not having a full frame body to have actual f/1.2 aperture.
@@giovannigio6217 there's autofocus adapters for E to Z.
1:58 that's a really nice portrait Jordan. Love the rendering of this lens, bokeh and out of focus rendition is just stellar.
wow Christopher Frost literally just released his video as well, we eating good tonight boys
Someone does not know about the concept of content embargoes
@@ArteUltra1195exactly
Even Gordan Laing has a sample. More and more RUclipsrs are getting bigger among lens manufacturers to give out samples to.
Not just Christopher Frost. I have 3 other RUclipsrs that also released videos about this lens within an the last hour 😂
@@willemdebeer2507 Me, being a tech guy. Hated it so much when my sub feed got flooded with tens of new camera, lenses, phone, PC accessory etc exactly the same time.
I have Sigma's 24-70 f/2.8 A for my Sony camera and I love it. It's a great lens, and a LOT cheaper than the Sony version! I have the Sony 50 f/1.8 and rarely use it because of the 24-70. As cool as this lens is, I dunno if I'd really ever use it, rather have to force myself to find reasons to use it.
I also have the Sony 50mm f/1.8 and I also rarely use it - because I hate it, haha. Terrible focus at night (very disappointing, since focus is possibly the best thing about the Sony system) and not very sharp at wider apertures. If I need the light then I almost always go for the 20mm f/1.8 (amazing lens!), unless I don't want the dramatic perspective distortion (but I usually do). I think this 1.2 would complement the 24-70 much more than 1.8, especially for the bokeh. Might not make so much sense if you already have an 85mm prime, though.
this looks like the perfect pair to my S5 II!
Awesome work guys, this lens looks wild!
I was this close to getting the S Pro on sale, but how could anyone resist this? Looking forward to Cheyenne's field report!
great video! love the photo at 1:58, that's fire! hope this comes to the RF mount one day!
You have to be a fan of Sigma. Nothing to dislike here.
If we are talking best 50 for L mount (Leica - SL2-S body) which would be better image-quality-wise - the Sigma or the SL 50 APO (considered as the best 50mm ever created)? Many say the SL50's look isn't like a f2 lens, especially the out of focus areas and falloff. It's more like a 1.4 with incredible sharpness and zero aberrations.
The toneh is amazing
😂😂😂😂 so much Toneh
Thanks for this thorough review. What a great lens.
Gents, great review, but the Shure mic's sound rough from this end. A few other folks here in the comments have also noticed it. Based on the conflicting results people are getting with the quality of the Shure MoveMic, I'd love if someone could get to the bottom of the mystery!
Why no video test segment?
Very nice still image rendering.
Excellent upload as usual.
When we are getting the 40mm F1.2? I do like this one and just I like the 85mm. Finally we are seeing a F1.2 prime Sigma and hopefully this is a thing to come. Let's if Sigma has replacement for 105mm f1.4 and 135mm F1.8.
i assume sigma 50 1.2 is just a replacement for 50dgdn since that one is really bad in today's standards + sigma really need a convincing 50mm anyways
Oh wow....Chris Niccolls into his natural habitat...with a nifty-fifty, this time, the best from Sigma as 50mm so far. Fine video, Chris - and greatly made by Sigma.
@PetaPixel it would be great if you guys would start testing lenses for internal reflections. It was never really a concern for me until I started noticing it in product shots on white, especially a dark object. The Sigma Art 24-70 has it particularly bad and I no longer use it for product work because of this. I am sure other people would be interested to know this since that photo category is in such high demand now.
Sony shooters should be more upset that Sony throttles third party lenses on their fast shooting cameras. That’s like PlayStation only allowing their first party studio’s to utilize the full power of their PlayStation hardware. It’s anti competitive and disenfranchises great third party manufacturers like sigma and others who make unique and premium glass for their mount adding to Sony’s versatility and overall appeal to shooters looking to buy into the system.
Most people shooting a9/a1 aren’t overly concerned since they already own GM lenses. The scenarios they settle for 3rd party lenses they’re not looking for 15+ fps
at least is doesnt do like canon 😂
Also no teleconverters
@@encryptededdywe need to make this a bigger issue. The more competition we can encourage on the mount, the better results we’ll see from manufacturers in terms of performance and value. And, sigma is working their butt off and Sony would be wise to treat them with the respect they deserve for adding so much value to the E-mount ecosystem. My goodness, this 50mm 1.2 lens is impressive, and may beat out the GM variant in most categories, save autofocus. (And again, that may be the result of proprietary compatibility) as an A1 shooter who shoots mostly on gm glass, Sony’s throttling truly does deter me and other from more seriously exploring third party options like this beautiful lens. Sony is shooting themselves in the foot with this one, in a similar way to Canon.
@@ImanSyah-t8uyou’re 100% right, Sony would be wise to treat their friends wise. And sigma is most certainly a great friend to have!
What Sigma hasn’t figured out yet for me is color and micro contrast.
Everybody talks about sharpness, and the Sigma is right there with the Panasonic, but what you’re paying for with the Panny is beautiful color and perfect contrast.
Hardly anyone talks about that.
Any plans for a Nikon Z mount version?
Very impressive lens . For most photographers the 50 1.4 is still a great choice, question is do you want to pay 40 procent more to get .2 more light and a little better performance even tough the 1.4 is very sharp to? I would
Do you know the transmission of the lens. I couldn't find the T-stops. Some f/1.2 are worse than some f/1.4
Why doesn’t anyone talk about micro contrast anymore?
That’s why I’d still take the Panasonic.
It's not just an art! It's a 1.2 art!
Chris I know you tried the 50 Leica SL primes...you really think it's the best 50mm L mount lens to date???
Why is Sigma not releasing their primes for z mount? The mount is open I dont get it.
I love my Sigma 50mm 1.4 I bought it last year to use it for weddings and it's more than enough than I need, but I'm sure this lens is amazing as well. I'm glad they were able to push the limits of what they can do. I'm really just waiting for someone to give me a F2 24-70 for E Mount because that's what I need more than anything.
Great Video again. Jordan, what camera and lens did you use to shoot the video? The image looks super crisp and contrasty.
This was shot on the Panasonic S5 IIX with Panasonic 35mm F1.8 and 100mm F2.8.
- Jordan
Thanks!!! Looks really good, even though maybe a bit to sharp. But it seems as if Panasonic gear is simply amazing. The color, pop, contrast - really special@@PetaPixel
Still no Jordan segment for video?🤔
I wish the 35mm f1.2 could get the same size adjustment. I’m still in the converted dslr series of sigma lenses looking to upgrade especially my enormous 85 f1.4.
I'm surprised to see that much depth of field on the fellows face at 1.2. I would guess the pic was cropped and you were at a fair distance.
How about a real comparison with the Sony GM f1.2? Maybe you could measure t stops or at least compare scenes shot a the same aperture, shutter speed and ISO. Is one lens brighter than the other?
So many great shots! Appreciate the feedback 🤝
$550 more than the 50mm 1.4 DG DN I have - and all the shots I've seen, I prefer the images from the 1.4. One good thing, while this is only 75 grams (670 vs 745 grams for L mount) heavier, it's just 2.8 mm larger diameter and actually 0.7 mm shorter - nice that it can fit in the same camera bag, but can it match the 35mm 1.2's rendering being this much smaller and lighter?
Looks like the Panasonic 50mm 1.4 still has better image quality ( lack of CA ) and no focus breathing, but the weight saving and price will be worth it for most.
Perhaps it can replace the old Sony-Zeiss 55mm F1.8 from the early days of full frame E-mount.
I am also considering the change, but the Sony-Zeiss is so small and light weight... 🤔
Would love this for nikon over their behemoth version.
Same!
A really impressive chunk of glass… great review
This was a compelling review even for someone who thinks the 50/1.2 GM is my dessert island lens! Nice work (for a Canadian)! ;-)
Thank you for this informative video. I would be interested in learning about auto-focus performance on either a Panasonic or Leica compared to their own branded lenses.
You guys mentioned the lack of close focusing on this lens… is it that hard to make lenses that are always able to focus closely? This seems like an odd limitation to have in lenses these days. Could just be me though!
This lens is making it onto my SL3 kit now.
Looks like a great lens! That bokeh is nice.
I own a Voigtlander Norton 50 1.2, which is definitely softer @f/1.2 than the sigma one, as compared to the beautiful portraits Chris showed in this review
Z mount please :)
All my sigma lenses are my go to for client work. If I hadn’t just bought half a dozen vintage 50mm primes, I might consider this art lens 😂.
Well done sigma, proving once again that sigma and beautiful glass belong in the same sentence.
can I suggest an alternative that is faster, lighter, a joy to use and has gorgeous Bokeh? Just over a year ago I paid $399 for a lens from China that had received rave reviews. Mr. Ding Noxlux 50mm. f1.1. It weighs 385 g, is 5cm/2" long and is metal construction. If you either enjoy and are able to use MF (easy on a Sony), this is an interesting option.
What is the Plena to Noct conversation rate? I only know Nocts 😕
1 Noct is approximately 2 Plenas
Great lens for the price but I'm equally amazed by the image quality of the G9 II in this episode.
Ermmmm, surely they already proved this beyond any doubt whatsoever with their 105mm Art DG DN Art - best and most versatile lens I've ever owned!
It's not a DN though, it's the DSLR version with an MC-11 built in. The resulting size and weight is why I don't own it. If they made a proper DG DN mirrorless version, I'd preorder for sure.
Only recently they mastered making light and sharp lenses. They mostly were already very sharp, but very heavy. 50mm is one of the easiest focal length to make so no surprise that it's sharp. Now let's hope they make a v2 or v3 of all their lenses just to make them lighter.
Will we be getting one for the Z-mount?
Unlikely. Sigma is not making Z glass, seemingly Nikon made a deal with Tamron.
Hey thanks for the video, can you help be decide if i should go with GM 50mm 1.2 or art 50mm 1.2, im trying to use it for wedding photography, and if you can recommend me another lens from what i have mentioned thatll
Be appreciated, mind you that i just started photography and im
Still learning, thank you
It has a nice price too. Too bad it won't be in the Z mount. They might make a f/1.4 version of this for Nikon later. I haven't seen much from Sigma for Nikon.
And now a compact 40mm 1.4, Sigma. Go!
Sigma lenses have a great reputation for GFX conversion, this one would be INCREDIBLE if it doesn't vignette too much!
How does it compare to the Sigma 85mm?
Chris pls compare this to Sony FE 50mm f/1.2 GM.
Others have just done exactly that.
I would maybe get it if there is not focus breathing ... in that case I won't cause sony does not allow breathing compensation on 3rd party lensnes :(
Sigma, release this lens - with the aperture ring - for Z mount please!!
I was in these locations in Calgary just a few days before this was filmed. It would have been fun to bump into you guys and see this lens!
Thanks for the helpful reviews. Keep up the good work guys!
Brilliant lens, but for the price: I'd get the f1.4 version! I'm sorry but the price difference is another lens I can buy. For Pros, absolutely but for amateurs f1.4 is perfectly fine!
Not sure if u rly need 1.2… quite happy with my pana 1.8 primes on my s5iix 🥰
What is going on with the audio? Im having to lower the volumen lately because of that weird noise.
Why don’t lens reviewers test for micro contrast on lenses?
Damn canon for not opening up the rf mount to third party.
In australia its selling $2800+ while the 1.2 sony gm is like $2100 wth!?!?
7:10 What?! How can i shoot video then? Only manual focus?
15fps in stills mode, AF-C is still available in all video modes it normally would be.
I just wish Chris would tell us what 'loca' means
That's kind but I was just having a little joke at Chris' expense@@odebarta729
The other caveat is that third-party E-mount lenses won't be able to access breathing compensation. But yes, it looks like a stellar lens.
I wonder if Viltrox will soon bring their amazing f1.2 to full frame for some real competition
I love my RF 50mm 1.2 L. This one definitely looks nice.
Chris is finally wearing Orvis again. This Haukland thing never seemed a good fit to me.
@2:31 LOL I know too many of these photogs
What is a plena?
Is it weather sealed?
Thank you, Chris! Interesting lens to review.
The Sony 1.4 is clearly the way to go.
Cannot stand the shiny bit of plastic between the aperture ring and the lens mount. No idea why they don't make it the same matt colour as the rest of the lens
I can't wait to get a used one
You have no choice. You must wait.
make a native gfx mount one
At this point, does Chris give the LOCA explanation in his sleep?
Great reviews ; very tempting, hmm, I am happy I waited.
What's up with the vocal audio?
As someone who's mostly using film era lenses, I always have a bit of a laugh when someone describes one like this as "compact" ;)
Yeah, more lens elements, autofocus motors and so on, but still, these are anything but compact.
Wait, "don't go above 15fps and expect continuous autofocus (on Sigma lenses)"?. See, I was going to complain that you seldom talk about video issues with lenses, but was going to keep quiet as I am not "the expert".
That's not video but still picture limitation on A9 and A1 series cameras
i see jordan didnt forget his ND filters this time xD
Clincally sharp great for post Mortum autopsies. Not for portraits.
Now, Sigma: How about a 20mm F1.0? 😍😍😍
This sigma lens check all the boxes, even in the weight departement sigma beats sony's own 50mm GM lens
Do we like the new hood connectors? DO WE???
Would be interesting to see how it compares to Summilux-SL 50mm
Nice this will be a great addition to my Canon kit. Ohhh wait.
Thanks for the video. What microphone / wireless kit was used in the making of this video. It sounds terrible with lots of hiss.
Will Sigma make their own Noct?
The kind of lens that makes you wish you didn't own a canon body. I guess we'll see which happens first, sigma lenses come to rf or I get the money to switch systems
You got this Chris.
Soo much Toneh!
I guess this proves that the 50mm F1.4 from Sony is not a "GM", it's a "LM"