As to the plural of Noctilux: it depends on whether you're using German (lux = measuring unit for light intensity) or Latin (lux = light) declinations. Latin: Noctilux / Noctiluces; German: Noctilux / Noctilux (plural and singular are the same). Sorry for the nerdism 😅 ... and thanks very much for the review!
@@mikegregory8353 so happy you like them! Please forgive the following answer to your question, but it truly is the best answer I can give you: the frame tells me what it needs, so that’s what I do. I can tell you that this never takes longer than a minute or three. I hope that helps.
Thanks Hugh for discussing this extraordinary lens. Compliments of course for Sigma. For enthusiasts of a small depth of field, it is interesting to know that the depth of field of the Sigma 65mm f 2 is identical to a 50mm f 1.2. In practice, these lenses have a small difference in light gathering and angle of view but a huge difference in weight, size and price. So there is something to choose from for everyone. I am a fan of the Sigma 65mm f 2 in L mount precisely because of the bokeh and subject separation.
Awesome. This is a point that's rarely brought up and I didn't realize it was so dramatic even across 15mm. Keep in mind that minimum focus distance is important to some. I know that part of the reason I even pull out very fast 50mm or 58mm lenses is because I want to use them SUPER close to subjects. The DOF for the 65mm at minimum focus distance is .76 cm, while the DOF for the 50mm at minimum is .40cm. may not matter for most but part of the fun of fast lenses is razor thin at very close distances, so it may be useful for some. Still not enough to make me spend $1400 for it though
Thank you for the Sigma 50/1.2 video. i’m really glad to see this from Sigma even though i own both the Sony 50/1.2 and 50/1.4 GM lenses since they were introduced. I also own Sigma’s f/2 50mm and 65mm I-Series DG DN i use on the A7CR. This is because 40-50+ is my favorite focal range. Now i can consider Sigma’s newest ART series an alternative going forward. Take care.
Fantastic video by the way. After switching to Lumix from our Three Sony, I’m starting to finally feel that we’re not giving up much going to the l mount
I've had a few Sigma lenses that have been outstanding compared to first party lenses. The 24-70/2.8 L mount is fantastic, and the old 17-50/2.8 for crop sensors was also very impressive. The 56/1.4 is one of the best lenses I've ever owned. No wonder Canon won't let you put them on their R-series cameras.
I. M. P. R. E. S. S. I. V. E. Some great images here, and a very impressive looking lens! That photo of ‘the pooch,’ was just so nice and so sharp. I’m curious as to whether these newer lenses give up any of that sought after ‘character’ in the pursuit of perfection? Love how You break things down Hugh, and never fail to come away impressed. Your Photographic knowledge notwithstanding; I think I could listen to You talk on about various patches of paint drying on a wall! 😯😃 Please stay safe and best to You and Claudia.
Thank you George! As to your musing about “character:” it depends upon one’s definition of “character.” A precise definition of lens character would probably incorporate the notions that 1) “character” is a subjective thing; 2) it refers to what an optical engineer would likely consider the distance between technical perfection and what the person opining about character finds pleasing DUE to that distance. 😊🖖🏻
@@3BMEP You're Welcome! Really good points taken! Photographers are always chasing after ‘character,’ bokeh, micro contrast, and other so called features in a lens. You made a very good point on what the optical engineer is considering in the design. I’m happy if I get a decently sharp lens that isn’t decentered! And I am content on focusing on chasing after that ‘one image.’ But that is just me! I’m penning this on one cup of coffee, and after re writing it several times, I’ve settled on this. 🙄 Take care! 😊📷🇮🇱🇺🇸🖖
@@3BMEP No that's a poor definition of "character". "Technical perfection" as a term depends on one's definition of "perfection" just as much as "character" does. Character of a lens would simply be the attributes that render the various aspects of optical conveyance in a way appealing to one's preferences while still being acceptably sharp or better.
I would love to know your take on a comparison to the panasonic 50mm 1.4, especially taking image quality, bokeh (catseye...) and rendering into account.
The skateboard shot is terrific, with the action caught at the apogee, and the other skater standing on a tipped skateboard taking their own picture for posterity. I like Sigma and I am trying to decide between a larger and pricy Leica SL APO 50, the smaller, cheaper and faster focusing Leica SL 50mm and something like this Sigma. Thank you!
And yet you will hear again all the same snobs about their G masters and native apo Leica lenses. Sigma is KILLING IT. If only they could make the new FF Foveon camera...
I wanted to buy this because of cost and weight, compared to the Panny 50mm 1.4. My buddy at my local shop let me test both and let do some basic processing there at the store. Yes, the Sigma is as sharp as the Panny, but who cares… the rendering/color on the Panny files were completely dominant. That’s what you’re paying for with the Panasonic. Just like with their 24-70
Looks like a stellar lens for e-mount and L-mount shooters. I own a Lumix S5 (I) and actually I feel a little tempted, but to be honest - I don’t need a f1.2 lens. Most of the time I shoot street and travel and I rarely need something faster than, let’s say, f2.5 or 2.8. Actually I really like the Sigma contemporary i-series lenses on my S5. The 24 f3.5, the 45 f2.8 and the 90 f2.8 are awesome lenses. Small, beautiful with a real aperture ring and a great performance🤩. But hey, this f1.2 lens is kind of mouthwatering🤤.
Ah the Three Tuns Pub and Lloyds of London. My stomping ground. Thanks for the review Hugh, excellent and as well argued as usual! looking forward to acquiring this lens once I can get my hands on an SL3…….❤
Focus pull ..SL2.. I have seen video instructions on the touchscreen method .. with ability to control the speed of focus ..it meant delving into programme settings.. perfect problem solved if on SL3..
Great coverage about this lens, and your voice is always so soothing to listen to. 😊 ...If you were in the process of buying a used 50 Summilux-SL, would you hold off and buy this Sigma 50/1.2 instead?
I would. I already have two APO Summicron SL lenses that are reference standards (35 and 90), and I have a relatively small and light Sigma 65/2 for when I want a "normal" FOV without cropping. The bonus is that it will give me an identical DOF at 6' to a 50 at 1.2. Bottom line: I RARELY need to go to 1.2; 35 and 90 are my bread and butter lenses; and if I NEEDED 1.2 (as I will in June for a wedding inside a dim chapel), the Sigma makes more sense from light gathering, size, weight and cost perspectives than the Summilux SL. But hey: that's just me. :)
So the most important question since you mentioned it.... how are the images with this lens on the Panasonic vs the Letter ca SL3? Also is the SL3 that much better than SL2 other than the resolution?
@@3BMEP How do they do it? Their 15 mm f/1.4 DG DN Fisheye looks stunning too (I’d use it for a different kind of astrophotography than I normally do with long FL telescopes).
APO 50 SL (or M) and you will never look at something else... i had the G-Master 50 1.2 which is outstanding... but then... APO... IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT ❤
Thank you so much for this review. It made me really take a bold step of selling my Rokinon 50mm F1.4 to get this Sigma 50mm F1.2 DG DN Art. I really want to explore night street Photography with this beautiful lens and see where I can let my imagination explore with my Sony A7RIIIa and see what I can do with this combination. 🙂
Great video!! And thank you for mentioning the other beautiful 50mm lenses Sigma has for L-Mount. I especially like the f/2.0 version (size and weight are key).
I’ve been using 50mm loxia and an adapted 50mm milvus on my Sony body for the past few years but the relatively small size, extra lighter gathering and autofocus capabilities on the sigma sound marvellous. I’ve never tried any sigma lenses so I’m worried I won’t like the rendering compared to the milvus or loxia.
i LOVE THE NEW OFFICE LOOK! recently i picked up a copy of the ttartisen 50mm f0.95 for half the original price. if i hadn't i would absolutely pick one up.
What are your thoughts for using this lens for astrophotography. I have the 14mm 1.8 art, but would like something I can frame in the milky way a little tighter.
Apologies, but as I don’t do astrophotography I don’t think I can answer your question properly. Our friends Chris and Jordan over at PetaPixel are more qualified than I am, and they test for things like sagittal coma flare.
Appreciate the look into this lens..this lens is very intriguing!..dont usually shoot 50mm but this is a great alternative to the GM. Hopefully Sigma will release an 85 1.2 Art for E mount just like this!..because so far it looks like Sony is not going to make that lens any time soon..unless they did a reverse on us..release the upcoming 85 1.4 GM II than a 1.2 later..like they did with the 50 1.2 GM was first than the 1.4..haha
Great review. I am an a7cr owner. It appears this lens is too large for that camera. You mentioned that Claudia uses the a7cr for street photography. May I ask what lenses she uses?
It is good to have choices but I ‘ve had the Sony 1.2 since its launch, and I’m not motivated to switch. Wait did you say it is lighter? I am shooting the a7cr now, 🤔
@@3BMEP GAS! LOL. I have been shooting the G Master 50mm on the A7cr for a local theatre. I am shooting their plays in the dark, which is impressive, and the G Master 135mm 1.8 is also as good. Last weekend, I pulled out the G Master 14mm 1.8, and I was happy with those photos, too. Sometimes, speed is what you need.
@@3BMEP I'm still drinking the 50 milk with Voigtlander's new 50mm f1's for Z and RF (I shoot both)... and now that I see this Sigma lens, it's just one more excellent reason to consider adding L mount to my collection 🥹
@@3BMEP There are so many technically perfect lenses, they are more or less exchangeable. The shooting experience and the results with the Voigtländer are special. Possibly not for every job and project, but for those with fun.
I think this looks good. It’s new. We never ever have seen Hugh like this. That’s why you are distracted. And if you go to his website and watch his pictures, you can enjoy his voice and content. Cheers 🎉
Remember a few years back when everyone was saying f/1.2 wasn't physically possibly for Sony's E-Mount mount? 🤣
Always appreciate your kind words!
Always earned!
Wow, how cool! Sigma doesn’t get the credit they deserve?!
As to the plural of Noctilux: it depends on whether you're using German (lux = measuring unit for light intensity) or Latin (lux = light) declinations. Latin: Noctilux / Noctiluces; German: Noctilux / Noctilux (plural and singular are the same). Sorry for the nerdism 😅 ... and thanks very much for the review!
LOVE it!
Definitely buying one for my SL2-S after seeing this. I love my Canon L but this looks like the business.
It IS the business.
Love these images. How much post production work to achieve the posted shots?
@@mikegregory8353 so happy you like them! Please forgive the following answer to your question, but it truly is the best answer I can give you: the frame tells me what it needs, so that’s what I do. I can tell you that this never takes longer than a minute or three. I hope that helps.
Sigma continues to offer optical gems for the L-Mount and great lower cost alternatives for E-Mount. Brilliant lens.
Thanks Hugh for discussing this extraordinary lens. Compliments of course for Sigma. For enthusiasts of a small depth of field, it is interesting to know that the depth of field of the Sigma 65mm f 2 is identical to a 50mm f 1.2. In practice, these lenses have a small difference in light gathering and angle of view but a huge difference in weight, size and price. So there is something to choose from for everyone.
I am a fan of the Sigma 65mm f 2 in L mount precisely because of the bokeh and subject separation.
Awesome. This is a point that's rarely brought up and I didn't realize it was so dramatic even across 15mm.
Keep in mind that minimum focus distance is important to some. I know that part of the reason I even pull out very fast 50mm or 58mm lenses is because I want to use them SUPER close to subjects.
The DOF for the 65mm at minimum focus distance is .76 cm, while the DOF for the 50mm at minimum is .40cm. may not matter for most but part of the fun of fast lenses is razor thin at very close distances, so it may be useful for some. Still not enough to make me spend $1400 for it though
GREAT point! You are correct: at a distance of 6’ both yield a DOF of 3.5”!
Thank you for the Sigma 50/1.2 video. i’m really glad to see this from Sigma even though i own both the Sony 50/1.2 and 50/1.4 GM lenses since they were introduced. I also own Sigma’s f/2 50mm and 65mm I-Series DG DN i use on the A7CR. This is because 40-50+ is my favorite focal range. Now i can consider Sigma’s newest ART series an alternative going forward. Take care.
Fantastic video by the way. After switching to Lumix from our Three Sony, I’m starting to finally feel that we’re not giving up much going to the l mount
I've had a few Sigma lenses that have been outstanding compared to first party lenses. The 24-70/2.8 L mount is fantastic, and the old 17-50/2.8 for crop sensors was also very impressive. The 56/1.4 is one of the best lenses I've ever owned. No wonder Canon won't let you put them on their R-series cameras.
I. M. P. R. E. S. S. I. V. E.
Some great images here, and a very impressive looking lens! That photo of ‘the pooch,’ was just so nice and so sharp. I’m curious as to whether these newer lenses give up any of that sought after ‘character’ in the pursuit of perfection?
Love how You break things down Hugh, and never fail to come away impressed. Your Photographic knowledge notwithstanding; I think I could listen to You talk on about various patches of paint drying on a wall! 😯😃 Please stay safe and best to You and Claudia.
Thank you George! As to your musing about “character:” it depends upon one’s definition of “character.” A precise definition of lens character would probably incorporate the notions that 1) “character” is a subjective thing; 2) it refers to what an optical engineer would likely consider the distance between technical perfection and what the person opining about character finds pleasing DUE to that distance. 😊🖖🏻
@@3BMEP You're Welcome! Really good points taken!
Photographers are always chasing after ‘character,’ bokeh, micro contrast, and other so called features in a lens. You made a very good point on what the optical engineer is considering in the design. I’m happy if I get a decently sharp lens that isn’t decentered!
And I am content on focusing on chasing after that ‘one image.’ But that is just me! I’m penning this on one cup of coffee, and after re writing it several times, I’ve settled on this. 🙄 Take care! 😊📷🇮🇱🇺🇸🖖
@@3BMEP No that's a poor definition of "character". "Technical perfection" as a term depends on one's definition of "perfection" just as much as "character" does. Character of a lens would simply be the attributes that render the various aspects of optical conveyance in a way appealing to one's preferences while still being acceptably sharp or better.
I would love to know your take on a comparison to the panasonic 50mm 1.4, especially taking image quality, bokeh (catseye...) and rendering into account.
The skateboard shot is terrific, with the action caught at the apogee, and the other skater standing on a tipped skateboard taking their own picture for posterity. I like Sigma and I am trying to decide between a larger and pricy Leica SL APO 50, the smaller, cheaper and faster focusing Leica SL 50mm and something like this Sigma. Thank you!
And yet you will hear again all the same snobs about their G masters and native apo Leica lenses. Sigma is KILLING IT. If only they could make the new FF Foveon camera...
Excellent review. I must say, your black and white grading is lovely.
Thank you! 😊🖖🏻
6:55 and look at how the onlooking guy is perched on the edge of his board while taking his pic! Yeah, that's an amazing pic!
Thank you so much Hugh for the very helpful review! Good luck!
Glad it was helpful! 😊🖖🏻
Super job Hugh, Thanks and Cheers
😊🙏🏻🖖🏻
I'm sorely tempted to pre-order and I already own the Lumix 50/1.4. And the Lumix 50/1.8 and the Sigma 50/2! 😂
how does this compare to the sony 50mm f1.4gm in terms of image quality?
I wanted to buy this because of cost and weight, compared to the Panny 50mm 1.4.
My buddy at my local shop let me test both and let do some basic processing there at the store.
Yes, the Sigma is as sharp as the Panny, but who cares… the rendering/color on the Panny files were completely dominant.
That’s what you’re paying for with the Panasonic.
Just like with their 24-70
Looks like a stellar lens for e-mount and L-mount shooters. I own a Lumix S5 (I) and actually I feel a little tempted, but to be honest - I don’t need a f1.2 lens. Most of the time I shoot street and travel and I rarely need something faster than, let’s say, f2.5 or 2.8. Actually I really like the Sigma contemporary i-series lenses on my S5. The 24 f3.5, the 45 f2.8 and the 90 f2.8 are awesome lenses. Small, beautiful with a real aperture ring and a great performance🤩.
But hey, this f1.2 lens is kind of mouthwatering🤤.
Agreed on all counts!
Ah the Three Tuns Pub and Lloyds of London. My stomping ground. Thanks for the review Hugh, excellent and as well argued as usual! looking forward to acquiring this lens once I can get my hands on an SL3…….❤
They didn't call me either when they visited town!
Thanks Hugh for sharing your thoughts, great video :) I wonder how it compares to Voigtlander 50mm 1.0
One just came in, but the Sigma just went out!
I’m curious about the weather sealing compared with the Leica SL 50 1.4.
Or does it make a significant difference?
Good thing I haven't bought Sony's 50 1.2 GM yet😅.
I don’t recall, did you mention or highlight the Lumix S pro 1.4?
Focus pull ..SL2.. I have seen video instructions on the touchscreen method .. with ability to control the speed of focus ..it meant delving into programme settings.. perfect problem solved if on SL3..
I do not own a camera that fits that lens. I was curious what you had to say about it and then the music hit. Great stuff as usual, Hugh.
How does this compare to Zeiss Otus 55mm f1.4 optically and mechanically?
I guessed you were filming with the lens in question. Very nice and cinematic.
Great coverage about this lens, and your voice is always so soothing to listen to. 😊 ...If you were in the process of buying a used 50 Summilux-SL, would you hold off and buy this Sigma 50/1.2 instead?
I would. I already have two APO Summicron SL lenses that are reference standards (35 and 90), and I have a relatively small and light Sigma 65/2 for when I want a "normal" FOV without cropping. The bonus is that it will give me an identical DOF at 6' to a 50 at 1.2. Bottom line: I RARELY need to go to 1.2; 35 and 90 are my bread and butter lenses; and if I NEEDED 1.2 (as I will in June for a wedding inside a dim chapel), the Sigma makes more sense from light gathering, size, weight and cost perspectives than the Summilux SL. But hey: that's just me. :)
So the most important question since you mentioned it.... how are the images with this lens on the Panasonic vs the Letter ca SL3? Also is the SL3 that much better than SL2 other than the resolution?
Great video! How would you say this stacks up against the lumix 50mm 1.4?
So much smaller and lighter that those two words are the end of the story.
Hmmm. I was saving up for the Leica Summilux-SL 50.
Sigma is killing it with DG DN L-mount lenses.
They are indeed!
@@3BMEP How do they do it? Their 15 mm f/1.4 DG DN Fisheye looks stunning too (I’d use it for a different kind of astrophotography than I normally do with long FL telescopes).
APO 50 SL (or M) and you will never look at something else...
i had the G-Master 50 1.2
which is outstanding... but then... APO... IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT ❤
Yes!
@@3BMEP Greetings from Austria, i work for Leica 🔴
🤭
Thank you so much for this review. It made me really take a bold step of selling my Rokinon 50mm F1.4 to get this Sigma 50mm F1.2 DG DN Art. I really want to explore night street Photography with this beautiful lens and see where I can let my imagination explore with my Sony A7RIIIa and see what I can do with this combination. 🙂
Enjoy!
Called B&H to make sure 3BMEP gets credit for our SL3 and Sigma50/1.2 backorders 👍🙏
Much appreciated! :)
love the DOF in this video ;)@@3BMEP
Great video!! And thank you for mentioning the other beautiful 50mm lenses Sigma has for L-Mount. I especially like the f/2.0 version (size and weight are key).
I’ve been using 50mm loxia and an adapted 50mm milvus on my Sony body for the past few years but the relatively small size, extra lighter gathering and autofocus capabilities on the sigma sound marvellous.
I’ve never tried any sigma lenses so I’m worried I won’t like the rendering compared to the milvus or loxia.
Walk into a camera store that has one and look through the viewfinder. That ought to be sufficient to tell you what you need to know. 😊🖖🏻
i LOVE THE NEW OFFICE LOOK! recently i picked up a copy of the ttartisen 50mm f0.95 for half the original price. if i hadn't i would absolutely pick one up.
😊🖖🏻
What are your thoughts for using this lens for astrophotography. I have the 14mm 1.8 art, but would like something I can frame in the milky way a little tighter.
Apologies, but as I don’t do astrophotography I don’t think I can answer your question properly. Our friends Chris and Jordan over at PetaPixel are more qualified than I am, and they test for things like sagittal coma flare.
BUT Hugh, does this lens shoots colors?????? Ps what about the lumix s-pro 50mm 1.4?
Appreciate the look into this lens..this lens is very intriguing!..dont usually shoot 50mm but this is a great alternative to the GM.
Hopefully Sigma will release an 85 1.2 Art for E mount just like this!..because so far it looks like Sony is not going to make that lens any time soon..unless they did a reverse on us..release the upcoming 85 1.4 GM II than a 1.2 later..like they did with the 50 1.2 GM was first than the 1.4..haha
Great review. I am an a7cr owner. It appears this lens is too large for that camera. You mentioned that Claudia uses the a7cr for street photography. May I ask what lenses she uses?
She loves the 24-50/2.8!
Ahhh… The “Mystery” Lens. I like Sigma Art lenses… I giggled at your description of the CA. I know …. It’s a travesty…😂😂.
Nice work once again.
Hey Frank!
Are the sigma lenses capped at 4 fps for Leica SL cameras? Am I reading that right from the Sigma website?
It’s the body, not the lens, and the frame rate depends on a number of factors.
It is good to have choices but I ‘ve had the Sony 1.2 since its launch, and I’m not motivated to switch. Wait did you say it is lighter? I am shooting the a7cr now, 🤔
STOP, Cal! You're good with what you've got! :)
@@3BMEP GAS! LOL. I have been shooting the G Master 50mm on the A7cr for a local theatre. I am shooting their plays in the dark, which is impressive, and the G Master 135mm 1.8 is also as good. Last weekend, I pulled out the G Master 14mm 1.8, and I was happy with those photos, too. Sometimes, speed is what you need.
Got the Sony 50 1.2 when it came out but I actually like my S5ii better, so L mount it is.
you sound like Patrick Warburton, very relaxing!
Great review as usual, this lens is especially interesting lens for l mount users
Hey, Richard!
Where is the Z mount???, Alan
Unfortunately it won't come to Nikon Z though.
I like this review a lot 👍 and I subscribed and turned on the Notification.
Welcome!
How is it at F2.0 vs. the Sigma 50/2.0?
Didn’t do a side by side comparison, sorry!
When oh when in Z mount please
Woohoo! Everybody loves a 50🥰
I was weaned on 50!
@@3BMEP I'm still drinking the 50 milk with Voigtlander's new 50mm f1's for Z and RF (I shoot both)... and now that I see this Sigma lens, it's just one more excellent reason to consider adding L mount to my collection 🥹
How my ZF wishes this was available for Z mount :(
I am once again asking myself why im still shooting RF
A RF camera is nice and compact.
Yup…
👍 greets from germany, Carsten Villa Petersberg
Hallo, Germany!
Your jazz music is way better.
All this said:
I shoot the Voigtländer 50mm 1.0 🙂
Interesting lens - I have it in-house now.
@@3BMEP There are so many technically perfect lenses, they are more or less exchangeable.
The shooting experience and the results with the Voigtländer are special.
Possibly not for every job and project, but for those with fun.
Fuzzy hair today Hugh lol
Fresh out of the shower and forgot the Rogaine!
Are we beginning to see a white Afro? 😂 Great insightful review as always.
Hah! Not after I get my haircut today or tomorrow!
@@3BMEP Wonderful! That said I was loving the ‘fro.
Regardless, ‘fro or no’ fro your thoughtful reviews and great photos bring a lot of joy.
This video is shot at a too shallow depth of field. Your eyes are not sharp. Its distracting 😢
they seemed pretty sharp to me for his talking head shot. looks great imo
I think this looks good. It’s new. We never ever have seen Hugh like this. That’s why you are distracted. And if you go to his website and watch his pictures, you can enjoy his voice and content. Cheers 🎉
Change your bitrate in your RUclips app
Too bad it’s not an aps-c lens.
Too much talks few images. Not good.