Why I ALWAYS recommend freeCodeCamp and The Odin Project
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Johnny Sins is a full fledged coder now! Amazing transformation!
Shut up!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 My thoughts exactly
I started watching your videos a few months ago and I completed FreeCodeCamp, and CS50. It was a lot of late nights and grinding and I’m still grinding but I have my first developer job interview next week!! I’m so nervous and probably going to bomb but I’m so excited.
Good luck!!
@@jewelsonmyjeans Thank you !!
Good luck, bruv. Hope you get in there man!
this is inspiring ! good luck man! hope to be in your shoes someday
How long did it take you from beginning to learn to getting an interview?
I currently working on freeCodeCamp. So far it has worked good for me. I haven’t given the Odin Project a shot yet but I plan to. It sometimes feels like a bummer when people look down on self-taught learners (for whatever field) I am one that others don’t believe will amount to anything that what I am doing now. I do have my wife that believes in me. I know that the time is now and I will succeed. I have been studying code for 2 months and I feel like I have made significant progress. I don’t plan on giving up. I hope anyone who reads this feels the same. It’s a tough road and I am well aware that it’s not easy but I love it.
how is it going?
I pray for your success!
How could anyone look down on autodidacts? It takes a lot of dedication and perseverance to teach yourself all these relveant skills to work as a programmer.
I'm sure you will do very well! Hope I can too lol.
I wish you success, may you be totally awesome in your endeavours! 😎🤩
I'm not comparing them to anything else, but as an App Academy Open student, I can attest that it is a fantastic curriculum and I never felt pushed to pay. Their Discord is wonderful for a community feel and for support.
I came to know about odin project from one of your videos. Now i am a good front end developer. Thanks man!
I found your channel when I watched fireship talk about your video on finding a job as a self taught programmer.
I've been binge watching your vids lately and I absolutely fell in love with the way you talk about things
I hope you keep doing what you're doing.
I plan on coming back here once I land my first job and letting you know.
Again, thank you!
since nobody mentioned it yet, OSSU is also a nice completely free CS curriculum that focuses more on overall knowledge and problem solving rather than specifically web development. A good place to start if you desire to have the knowledge of a CS university graduate
OSSU seems a bit overkill in certain areas. I think Teach Yourself CS is a better more focused resource that if you finished you would then know what you would want to branch out into.
to many anime girls on osu
Yesterday morning I was searching for your recommendation for learning resources and boom!!! today this video landed on my feed, I can't thank you enough for being so realistic in this overwhelming youtube programming guidance situation. Keep up the excellent work. Take care and be safe.
I agree, but in the middle stage, I don't mind codecademy as a freemium option. They give you an intro to discrete math, which is the basis of data structures and algorithms. I personally appreciate that because sometimes DS&A online courses make it seem like you just have to memorize that when there is a rhyme and reason to it. It's math after all!
But there's no reason why someone can't get that first job with entry level skills, then drill into knowledge gaps to pass harder interviews for a next job, if they want.
Is codecademy free?
@@manishanthan713 it’s free but you can get all the better stuff if you don’t pay of course like certification and quizzes etc.
Thank you I started it last week. Loving the odin project.
A year ago I abandoned my coding journey due to some mental health things. For quite a while, I have watched your videos trying to gain the courage to begin again. I am almost a month back into coding and doing pretty okay on TOP. Thanks man! Keep up the good work!
You can do it. His videos got me back again as well.
Mee too, we all can do it
@@ericb4898 Thank you for the vote of confidence!
@@mapmap123456 Thank you so much for the support!
Me too man. A lot of mental issues but we got this!!
Even though free code camp backend development curriculum specializes in JS, nodejs etc. I took it to RUclips to learn Python and Django still with free code camp help. They have helped me tremendously and so have this channel with your candor and frankness. It is greatly appreciated. I hope everyone wins.
I’ll add Harvard cs50, DSA RUclips courses, and maybe MDN docs. Oh and get into a habit of going through framework or libraries docs first then branch out to other learning resources. Combine all of these and don’t worry about time, just learn and start building and you’ll be straight in no time
Bro what you mean by docs?
Is it anything related libraries or framework or you just meant documents?
On top of everything you mentioned it's good to get into these free options anyway: because 1 you may need to test the waters to see if the industry is for you, 2 to test if you have the propensity for the curriculum, 3 if you are going to a boot camp anyway why not prep ahead, 4 save money and donate once you get a job, etc.
Yo Dorian, I just checked in after a year of not watching your channel and MAN you've grown. I knew that your video production skills would eventually reflect in subscriber count! Hey, thanks for helping me out when I was looking for my first job. 15 years old and I'm already a self-taught developer!
hi, could you please tell me the path you took to become a self taught developer. did you use any specific courses? and is freecodecamp or odin project good to become a full stack developer? any help would be appreciated. thank you
This what I was looking for, Thanks a lot
Yes! I've been using freeCodeCamp and The Odin Project in tandem with Team Treehouse. I found, that with my personal learning habits, that The Odin Project was so text heavy and isolating, videos from Team Treehouse were helpful in having someone in my ear. I know TOP recommends to stick with one track, but using them together has been great. One with the text notes and one for video explanations.
Could you please send the link to TOP? I had searched it in google did not get relevant answers? 🙏
@@user-od1wk9yt4e bro its the odin project
I didn't like TOP because of the text heavy lessons. I recommend using a text to speech extension. Helps me absorb the material.
@@maximorodriguez6849 just shows that there's no "one" right way. I love the fact that it's text heavy and tried running it through a text2speech extension but it annoyed me.
It just depends on your preferred style of studying. You can also switch it up and combine it. What matters is to learn the relevant skills and be competent in your field.
There's many options for the different learning styles. I personally prefer text heavy because I like to set my own mood with lightning and background music. I'm unable to learn properly just from videos, or even in real life someone talking. I will get distracted and not pay much attention haha
I'm almost done with fundamentals course at Odin. I love it
I started both The Odin Project and Free Code Camp back when they both started. I would recommend doing The Odin Project first and then do Free Code Camp for further learning. The Odin Project covers much of the basics I skipped over, and that's why I'm going back to complete their curriculum. I'm sure I can finish it before 2024 gets here, as long as I'm not too busy with my web development volunteer work and freelance projects.
getting decent money off those side projects? and how long have you been coding?
I just stumbled upon the odin project a few weeks ago, I'm a software engineering student at a professional insitute in my country and tho I know how to code mainly in python, lua an java, by my own professor's advice, complementing your knowledge is required, and with resources like this or cs50, some books and documentation, I've been learning a lot and the results are I'm probably gonna get a job coding next year while I still finish my degree. So yeah, excelent resources. Especially if you're not a begginer anymore and you have some experience coding.
Thank you, I really appericate your this content!
Thanks for keeping it real Dorian. So i just had a look at freecodecamp and here's the list of certifications/courses:
"(New) Responsive Web Dev"
"Legacy Responsive Web Dev"
"Javascript Algos & Data Structs"
"Front End Dev Libs"
"Data Vis"
"Back end Dev and APIs"
"Quality Assurance"
"Scientific Computing w/ Python"
"Data Analysis w/ Python"
"Info Sec"
"Machine Learning w/ Python"
"Relational Database (Beta)"
How different is this list compared to when you were going through their courses? Which of these would you say are needed for a front end and mid end development job? I was thinking i could leave out:
"Legacy Responsive Web Dev"
"Data Vis"
"Scientific Computing w/ Python"
"Data Analysis w/ Python"
"Machine Learning w/ Python"
"Relational Database (Beta)"
Your thoughts?
One of the most legit and discrete programming channels. Respect
FreeCodeCamp and The Odin Project are awesome. I think that CS50 ando OSSU are very useful too.
Thanks bro, for everything!!!
For a developer Freecodecamp is a huge, fantastic and useful platform, where you can find everything ... I've never used The Odin Project, I'll see it ... Nice video as always Dorian, Thanks ✌🏻
@But I'm not a rapper to clear off one before starting another?
I discovered your channel a few weeks ago, and I've been watching you. I've been wanting to get back into learning how to code again. I've done parts of both FCC and TOP before, but didn't stick with it. However, I'm inspired to really stick with it this time and go the distance, and I'm working my way through TOP right now. So thank you very much for your videos and your inspiration.
I'm sticking with it too 👍
pick one and stick with it imo
Thanks Dorian
couldn't agree more , am currently stuck in a code cademy which was supposed to be beginner friendly and about front end and backend introduction but we've been learning C to the point where everyone is exhausted to the point where people are dropping out, c was fun up to pointers then everything started sounding way too theoretical for something we don't plan on using . they don't offer a brief video with detailed example of topics like freecodecamp does and the worst part is that most of these projects are time sensitive and their code checker is a black box , they made us write a simple shell fro this big project with it was hell and i wouldn't be a ble to recreate that. contrast that with when i did the freecodecamp javascript data structures projects and everything was clear from the tests to the expected outcomes , it took me a while to finish them but i was so proud in the end and felt like i learned something
Lemme guess, ALX 😂
@@femi_danjuma i graduated actually, i wish ChatGPT came out sooner it would have been a different experience. Anyways they moved to physical classes + online no more completely online 😭
@@hakuna_matata_hakunawow congratulations. I'm currently a student but deferred to a later cohort. Had a very hard time with the C part. Do you think the whole program is worth it? Or its better to self learn?
@@femi_danjuma this C fundamentals are worth it , some of the python stuff is okey but the most value is the DevOps stuff . You can keep self teaching something else on the side but if you have the time just finish it . Things are now tricky because you need to be in one of the cities with a physical location because some of the classes have to be in a physical class and ChatGPT will help you out when you're stuck
@@hakuna_matata_hakuna thank you so much. I appreciate your time
Great recommendations for new devs! RUclips itself is a great resource too
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I’m training in cyber sec but your videos really motivate me. Being 39 can be daunting in the industry but I do believe skills trump youth.
Hows it going?
How’d it go one year later?
Those are great resources but I don't mind paying for other great resources too. They sell their long term knowledge and experience that can help me buy time. Thanks for the video.
i just started learning how to code on june 28th and im hooked. im 22 and work at a walmart warehouse for almost 3yrs now but never really learned anythin that helped me. Ive just gone through their whole legacy web responsive web design,ive made sure to understand every lesson,ive taken notes and im currently about to start my first project which is to build a tribute page,id appreciate any tips and feedback bc honestly yea im looking at my screen and i dont know where to start lol. ill keep yall updated and thank you dorian for everything youve taught me in just the past month
:)
Hey my suggestion are:
If you go to gym or any other place
Where they give out paper form take that form and turn it into a webpage it's best because it's a real world application and I have made my own gym membership form (the gym where I workout).
But didn't tell a soul about that webpage.
Because it's not perfect.
In short you get the idea.
Forms are easy and they are everywhere in real world.
So just look around and just copy paste it on a webpage using HTML elements and CSS.
@@harshadadagale4253 hmm thats an awesome idea for small projects,ima def have to try that one,thx for the tip!
@@samuels.6733 when you make your first project based on real world don't forget to show me how you made it!!!
Hows it going buddy?
Out of curiosity, are there any free resources you'd recommend for getting better at code challenges (besides the obvious "practice more" which definitely has merit)? And to clarify I mean a resource not sites that have code challenge problems such as Codewars, Leetcode, etc
Appreciate you!
Back when I started learning coding for web-development (in my middle school days), Codecademy used to be "free" for their whole curriculum. However, after several years coming back into it, I was upset to see that only a part of the curriculum was "free". 0 ~ 0 I don't use it anymore since I finished their JavaScript, HTML, and CSS course, but still a bit of a bummer.
Hello! I am planning on starting The Odin Project this week. I have a question about distros though.
Can I use Arch (Or Arch based) distros for The Odin Project? I would like to fully make Arch my main OS for both daily usage and working.
What changes do you think I need to know in order for me to do this?
Thanks!
Great vid!
What do you think to take first Odin or free code camp or maybe combine learning them together? In glance they look similar
Thank you :)
Hi! I'm new to the Software Development world. Would you recommend these courses over the most recent Frontend & Backend Meta courses? Thank you, in advance! xoxo, Olivia 💛
What theme are you using for vscode? At 0:33
Are there any good testing courses out there(project based) for react/next js developers?
Thx bro
100% motivation💪
I use a mix of both of those and a udemy course called the full stack web developer course…mainly because it’s nice to have videos to follow and watch, bouncing between those 3 may not sound productive to some but I find it helps to not only solidify some of the knowledge I’ve gained but also each one has just a little something to teach that the others don’t…..now once I can get the hang of if and for and switch statements everything will be easier
As long as it works for you that's all that matters!
Is the udemy course the one from Angela Yu?
@@valentin7436 yeas that’s the one, there are some bits in it that are out of date because of updated software but you can check the questions or the docs for newer versions, I’m currently up to the api backend portion of it right now
@@bigmanbedda Thank you very much!
You're not the only one. For the past few months I've been watching Colt Steele's Web Developer Bootcamp Udemy course. And earlier today I registered myself to Odin Project. As you say, it's nice to have some videos to follow along the way. And also it's a good thing to view/learn same topics from another point of view.
They are great sites, I'm doing both =)
For digital marketing what is the best course like free code cam, i really need your advice
what about the new Coursera Meta front-end course? Do you have any thoughts?
i love TOP can't recommend it enough
How long should each one take to complete as a beginner? Are you able to get a job with just going through freecodecamp and the Odin Project ?
Is the key to solve a lot of problems to be prepared in the interview, I am aiming for intern frontend position!
Should one start with JS or Python? Thanks.
What is your thought on Cs50 from EDX??
Please let me know good resources for learning Azure.
Does any of these have a "job track" of sorts?
I really can't decide between the Odin Project or Zero to Mastery: The Complete Web Developer in 2023. Can anybody help?
I have one question. Are those 2 resources good if we are not "beginners" but just want to learn more, for example i wan to dive deep into React, and atm looking for best learning resource so i don't jump around so much? What resource do you recommed for this case?
Well if you are already experienced it would make sense to make a lot of projects with React. You can do React section at TOP or FCC and take it from there.
Try Full Stack Open. It's aimed at intermediate programmers and starts you off with React before getting into the back-end.
@@rod6722 Tnx a lot for recommending this, definitelly gonna try it out. I have plenty experience with JS but never learned any frameworks, so hopefully this helps. Can not rly bother watching some 80h udemy course...
Anyone have a recommendation on a first coding language to learn? Ik they all have different uses but is there on that’s a must know to learn?
Python is the go to for beginners. I recommend python
Thanks Johny Sins
Can you make a video discussing the fastest way to being a backend developer? I feel like there aren't many videos on it on RUclips
How can he? he is a front end developer, this would not be his expertise. there are plenty of videos about it on youtube, that's an easy title to grab people's attention. literally just search, you don't need many videos, you just need a good single video and you are set
The Odin Project is the best one
Hi, I am between App Academy Open or FreeCodeCamp. Which would you all say is easier for a complete beginner? 🤔
Best for advanced coding?
how much a monitor like that costs?
What kind of computer screen does Dorian have?
why no windows on the odin project tho
Bless up for intel, I will do Oden
Any recommendations for python learning with same project based concept?
Anyela Yu has a Python course. I heard it's good.
Why is there fear of paying money? The best resources are paid in terms of learning effectiveness and job placement rate right?
I wish there was a freecodecamp for the c# language
Exercism
Coding is 💯
Thanks buddy ....this is useful....i am now currently in manual testing...doing excel work....kind of thinking to upskill myself....going to give 3 months time for myself to transform myself
Hello I am doing Udemy courses for HTML&CSS JavaScript Jonas course. In near future I plan to learn react as well.
I want to be a front end web developer. Is it worth doing free code camp or should I just continue doing udemy courses?
Is it enough if I complete only the odin project?
I think TOP is possibly enough to land a junior developer role, yes, esp. for web development. From there you can tailor your resources and learn on the job. My friend did TOP and got an offer half-way through as he started applying, and while he is a developer it's in another language.
Do you enjoy your coding career, and would you recommend it?
he currently despises it because he is still working 9-5 for someone else instead of building his own empire, you can watch his other videos about it
Im using a windows11 pc. So i didnt bother with TOP.
I’m really bummed. I tried starting Odin Project but I was hit with a roadblock right away. You have to have a mac or have Linux. However, my laptop doesn’t support having another OS or even the virtualbox. Makes me sad since I can’t afford a newer laptop 😢
you dont need linux, you are fine with wsl
@@antohnyt2067 what?! Really? Thanks for letting me know. I’ve been trying to install xubuntu but my laptop can’t handle it. I will look into wsl thank you!
Did you try freecodecamp?
What about #100devs ?
what with w3schools?
Personally I don't think W3Schools is that good for learning. It will teach you syntax but not teach you to really build anything or understanding beyond it. I used it for HTML and some CSS, but either FCC or TOP are much better for actually learning.
Im Neves Gonna be a good coder
I am a btech graduate with the skill to create" Hello World!". Going to start HTMl from freecoding camp.. pray for me guys😢😊
Fullstackopen??
Why noone gonna talk about the curriculum of W3schools they cover the things that FCC and Odin project dont have.
@@retrogalaksi What do you mean not safe?
My only regret is to have started with Js/React instead Java or C#. I can´t find any kind of job in Brazil even though I have 2 great individual projects.
My wife is new to code and she just finished W3C’s edX front end program and the first two courses (html intro and css intro) are fantastic but the other three videos in the course are hot garbage that is 7 years old, feels super phoned in and unrefined
Anybody here have experience with Harvards CS50? I’ve heard and read that it’s pretty good, difficult, but good.
It's good because it's difficult. Some people say CS50 is not for beginners but that's not true. I was able to complete it with basically no programming knowledge. Do it, you'll learn a lot.
@@rod6722 thanks for your input! I had started TOP but running the VM for Linux was a drag. Constant issues with screen resolution every time I booted it up, etc. so it made me not want to continue with it. Started Freecodecamp and have been doing their new course so I’ll also check this out.
What about the app academy open curriculum?
I don't know about the new one (with Python), but the old one (with Ruby) is really great. It's essentially a more hardcore version of The Odin Project (which, if I'm not mistaken, was created by App Academy graduates). It's a huge time investment but it's probably one of the best resources available on the Internet. You'll learn back-end, front-end, data structures, algorithms, and build many projects along the way.
@@rod6722 I am doing it right nad I love it so far...
@@RudyRavelin1983 The old one or the new one?
@@rod6722 The new one.
It’s mostly a scam
E . It is very intersting"!!
What do you think of Codecademy?
Seems I'm early
Yessssssssssssssssssss but i liked odin better tho❤❤❤
I am freecodecamp addict.
Is FCC also for the software engineering field?
Which is better to freelance as a web developer frontend or full stack?
I rather work for a company
Freelance has to be full stack. Doubt too many people hire front ends for short projects except maybe other back end developers but likely wont have investor type of money if they are not hiring full time.
your screen cost more than my networth
I brought up the like count to 666. 😈lol
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