As a non-pro, DIY enthusiast, I love the 2-platform advice. I have Ridgid and DeWalt and I’ve found the two platform strategy provides a great balance for my needs
I went Makita when choosing a primary. I bought into Ridgid later when I found a deal for their impact wrench. That got me into the line since it came with a charger and 2 batteries. Having the 2 lines has worked well for me for years now.
Great way to look at it. I clearly have more top brands than the average person and I would also pick and choose tools for several brands for building my “best” tool lineup.
i run a lil of everything Milwaukee m12,m18 metabo 18v and 36v dewalt 20v, ryobi 18v, porter cable 20v, kobalt 24v,Bosh 12v hart 40v run em all and you will save money in the long run being able to take advantage of sales and deals all around
I have a combination of Dewalt 12v and 20v tools. Doing the basement renovation, 12v tools are being used 90% of the time. For 20v, i got the dcf845, cutoff tool, DCD805 hammer drill and Atomic 4 1/2 circular saw. This is all i need.
Excellent video, I'm an electrician by trade, my primary platform is Milwaukee, my secondary platform is Ryobi (tools that I use every once in awhile). I don't see myself switching platforms, but I've started to see some Hercules tools on the jobsite and I'm quite impressed with what Harbor Freight has to offer at a lower cost than the other big box stores offer. To be honest, if I were just a DIY weekend warrior, I'd look into checking out Hercules or Bauer. Ryobi and Hart are good platforms for the average DIYer to check out as well. If there isn't a Home Depot in your area, but you've got a Lowe's, Skil and Craftsman are also very viable options. Avoid Porter-Cable though, despite being Stanley- Black & Decker, their line is getting smaller and smaller.
With corded tools it has made sense to me to buy whichever tool I like best - not important to stick to one brand. With battery tools it's nice to stick with one brand.
I can understand that. The only reason I suggest two platforms is because no one brand makes a great version of everything. But I don’t fault anyone that prefers to be on a single platform.
There is an Irish guy that repairs tools on RUclips. He absolutely shits on Milwaukee, says there basically unrepairable, use crap parts and are built poorly. Can’t get replacement parts, last just till warranty ends.
I don’t know what the availability where they are located but I have been able to find smaller replacement parts for Milwaukee and other TTI companies where I am. From everything I have seen, newer tools are all fairly similar in that area.
Finally someone with the 2-platform advice for the DIY user. I use the more expensive brand X for tools I use often but I also have inexpensive brand Y for tools I don't use that much or are simply to expensive to justify for me in brand X.
Spend more on the tools that matter... but something like Ryobi has several tools that I prefer the ryobi version because the performance just doesn't matter. For something like a van, my ryobi glue gun, etc, the performance difference just isn't there and I save money on the tools.
I've got multiple different lines as a plumber, hvac tech and electrician. Have Ridgid, Flex, Milwaukee, Makita, Ryopi, Ego, Kress and Echo. It all makes the world go round
Like your review and reasoning. I’ve been able to cut it down to only 6 platforms. Milwaukee, 12 and 18 volt Makita 18 & 40 volt, DeWalt, Bosch, Ryobi, Metabo HPT, and one remaining Rigid 71/4 inch sliding compound miter saw, I just can’t seem to part with 😅😁 I might have a problem here, or not!
It's only a problem if you let it be... I think that there are great tools that I love on a lot of different brands. I've owned tools from just about every brand and the dream set of tools is really a combination of them all. I get that's not feasible for everyone though...
I bet most of us are on a couple different platforms. I’m on 3 different ones Bosh, Makita and Milwaukee. Makita is my favorite but the others have there place.
I'm also kn Makita and I'm considering investing in a second brand. Makita is great , but tool availability and battery development too. For example, the skill saw options. The only saw that uses one batter, is the 6 1/2" blade saw. If you want more power, then you need two batteries.
On battery two platforms now: Makita and Parkside. At this moment it delivers everything I need and almost every week good sales for upcoming home projects.
For the non professional user (like me) I would start out with a larger kit and I like the Dewalt 12v and Milwaukee Fuel 12v tools quite a bit. For larger tools like a grinder and sawzall, going to want 18v or higher tools with bigger batteries for those. I have Dewalt 12v and 20v tools and Milwaukee 12v and 18v tools, and a few Makita and Ryobi tools. I also have a couple newer Skil 12v tools that were a great value that made them worth getting. I've upgraded and changed several of my power tools the last few years and sold several tools. The more power tools you get the more brands your likely to want to try out.
Bosch is my primary and Milwaukee is my secondary. EGO for landscaping. I can't see why Bosch gets slept on so hard. Everyone that uses my stuff says they wish they weren't so stuck with their brand. Also, I don't like people using my stuff at all.
Bosch makes some solid tools and has some great sales at times that make the brand a compelling value but in the North American territory their tools just don’t garner too much attention.
That's a great advice. I'm on three brands right now (Bosch, Milwaukee, Ryobi) and I got into two of these by BOGO deals that otherwise would've costed me the same as a bare tool on the brand that I already owned. It's all about getting a good deal and now you have a backup brand when you want the best performance, price, ergonomics, weight or a combination of these. I'll eventually keep only 2 brands as I only have a Ryobi hammerdrill and impact driver, though
I really like having a cheaper brand that can be for the tools that just don't need to be heavy duty. I have no doubt in my mind that my Ryobi fan will work just fine and cost 1/2 the price that something from a bigger brand. But you are dead on with the BOGO deal as a great entry point!
I have a mix of one platform and multiple. I keep one platform at home to make it easy and straight forward. But at work I have 3-4 different brands. That works well for me because each brand has good tools and not so good tools. I can mix and match depending on the job at hand. Great video man
A great breakdown video brother. To be honest I don’t see how one can stick with a single platform nowadays 😂. So many great options across all brands👌.
@@TinkerWithTools Touche my friend 😂. I’m glad you mentioned Metabo Hpt. They definitely earned their place and respect in the tool industry. Even though some of the staff is sketchy😂😂
I’ve got several tool brands I have used in my shop - Makita, M12, Bosch, Flex, Ryobi - though I got into Flex on founders warranty and have luckily accumulated the turbo drill, compact router, the variable speed grinder and a few stacked lithium batteries for a number under the list price of any one of those tools. I know in the US many people love dewalt and milwaukee (Personally adore the m12 installation driver, staple gun and others), but I have found that Makita & Bosch make the most comfortable, robust, and precise tools out there. Unfortunately, they both benefit from far superior marketing, tool releases, and general innovation in the overseas market. Cant go wrong with most of these brands, just my two cents.
Can’t say enough about Metabo HPT ergonomics. My opinion, but they just feel right. I like the Bosch feel as well - especially their cordless 18v sander.
This is probably one of the better videos only one I’ve heard recommend getting hands on time with the tools which is by far the best advice you could give someone. I just started buying tools and doing renovation work like 3 years ago now and I have gotten a few different brands dewalt, ryobi,Milwaukee, and I’ve gotten a few metabo tools on discount. For me as a homeowners I want to eventually get every platform because that way if there is a really good deal I can get it. But I totally understand why a contractor or trades person would want to have 1 maybe 2 platforms at the max. It’s easy though if you just have a charging station where you keep all they different chargers and batteries
My cordless tools are all Makita LXT 18 and 36 Volt. They are plenty powerful for my purposes and their ergonomics are second to none. As for their battery technology Makita has some of the longest lasting batteries in the business and they hold up under constant heavy use and abuse. I do have a few corded Milwaukee tools and if I wasn’t on Makita’s platform I’d probably be on Milwaukee’s platform but never DeWalt.
I have some LXT tools and the the x2 rear handle saw. Not as much a fan of the two battery design after comparing it to XGT. But you are certainly right about the ergonomics
@@TinkerWithTools I have the 36v rear handle saw I like it , but can't justify going on the 40v platform just yet . Just bought a stiletto tbone 3 today for 300 euro as I live in Ireland so have to be good with tool buying for at least a week or so lol
Yeah I ended up getting both to do a comparison and haven’t done it yet but the XGT won me over. Performance is similar but the single battery and a few other creature comforts were the difference.
@@TinkerWithTools as far as x2 tools I have : XEC01 9” Powercutter which is perfect for my needs (Drive Thru Detection Loops) note the saw’s performance is much better with a Premium Diamond Blade over the included Makita Diamond Blade. XGD01 Earth Auger which is based on the Right Angle Drill and still functions as a Right Angle Drill, I haven’t used it as an Earth Auger yet but regularly use it for drilling holes in 3/16” to 1/4” steel tubing (Sonic Drive In canopy frames) using Bimetal Hole Saws. With the drill in Low Gear (350 RPM) I tape for the holes in the sides of the Hole Saw with electric tape and fill the Hole Saw with Sonic Ice (pellet). The melting ice keeps the Hole Saw and steel cold and provides plenty of lubrication while flushing the chips away. I generally get around 100 holes from each Milwaukee Hole Saw and it cuts faster and cleaner. XUX01M5 36 Volt Coupleshaft Power Head and String Trimmer attachment, I also have the Extension Shaft, Hedge Trimmer, and Pole Saw attachments. It’s simply brilliant! XCU07 36 Volt Chainsaw Nice Saw without the hassle of messing with a gas saw that sits for months without being used. XML11CTXML11CT11 36 Volt Self Propelled 21” Lawnmower not a bad machine that I got on sale from Home Depot with 4 5ah Batteries and a charger for $300.00
Currently on some Black and Deckers that I got on sale on amazon, though in the future I have been eying ridget with their lifetime service guarentee. Im in no rush to switch, So I will wait until my current ones were out. I just like the idea of having a "buy once and set forever" powertool brand, like I do with my hand tools. That being said, I could see having multiple tool brands arpund for different jobs. Thats how I am with my hand tools. I got Icon, gearwrench, dewalt, craftsman, and a random snap on or two. Just whatever tool does the job the best is always a good way to go.
I had some black and decker tools when I first started going woodworking and DIY, corded mostly. As I have gotten more tools they were slowly replaced but they certainly did what I asked them to do at the time.
I totally agree. The last couple of years I've gotten into the dewalt 12v line and especially with the drill and drivers the ergonomics is great compared to my 18v Ryobi which are thick with the handles because of the stem battery. As I get older (50 in Nov lol) I lean more and more for lighter tools but still have the power to get the job done and sometimes 1 tool brand doesn't quite cover it all.
If two tools can both do a job, I will likely go with the lighter tool or the once that is nicer to use. That is a big thing that most don't talk about on these type of videos.
I know that people have had success with them. I have always wondered with some of the more modern technology heavy tools that communicate with the battery, what impact they would have. But it would be a way to stay on a single battery platform.
You should consider Dewalt for another reason Lowe’s and home Depot both carry the brand other brands can limit your retail locations to pick up you can find value by comparing similar models from the same line and play the retail game of who has the better deal
I think an overlooked section of tools is the premium brands brushed and mid tier lines like Milwaukee non fuel brushless and Dewalt non xr or atomic brushless and brushed. I’ve got both Milwaukee fuel and their brushed tools. And both lines have taken everything I’ve thrown at them.
I have done some videos on the Milwaukee brushless and the non XR dewalts like the brushes and atomic. My issue with brushed tools at this point isn’t they they weren’t decent tools at their time I just think that being as old as they are at this point you can get better tools for equal prices.
As just a homeowner and DIY person you absolutely have to have RYOBI with the amount of tools and their commitment to bringing everything under the sun to market. I also have BOSCH 18v and 12v for some more serious tools / table /miter saw
Ive bought into makita and the bosch power for all system. I wanted to be able to buy tools cheaper than makita from time to time and i like how the batteries fir Batavia and Husqvarna tools. Ive considered getting into ryobi for their solar panel/inverter combo, but I'm only interested in the tools only they make.
2:46 - I came to the same conclusion a long time ago tbh. I ended up with Milwaukee for the main platform, a bunch of Ryobi for occasional use, and some spesific Makita stuff that they just seem to do better than everyone else. I have considered swapping out Ryobi and Makita for Dewalt though, partly because i want some stuff from them like the multitool, but also because i have friends and family who use Dewalt so it would be easier to borrow / lend out to eachother that way. So far decided against it simply because of the price for "secondary" tools though. Edit: I didnt mean this as a "I already know better than you" thing, I meant it as "yeah thats great advice!". Way too many prominent figures will hardcore claim that you MUST pick a platform and stick with it or else you will have more than 1 charger and God will smite you.
I agree. Limiting yourself to a single battery platform stops you from experiencing some great tools on other brands. I always looked for a deal that I felt was too good to pass up to buy into a new platform, then once I had a charger and battery, it really opens up the possibilities for deals on bare tools or clearance items from that brand.
@@TinkerWithTools Yeah exactly. Also alot of people seem to forget that batteries are consumables that needs to be replaced every so often anyway, its not actually THAT big of a deal to have all tools work on the same exact battery when youd have to buy new batteries at some point anyway. Especially if youre on DeWalt where they change their platform every 2 months 🤣
DIY-enthusiast/non-pro here. I went back and forth on it forever until I settled on Flex as my main brand with a drill, driver, saw, and sander (things I use the most) because of 1) quality 2) lower cost than Milwaukee/Dewalt XR and 3) lifetime warranty (and, to a slightly smaller extent, 4) the color scheme); and plan to grab Ryobi tools for others that i plan to not use as much--e.g. nailers and other things nice to have at home like the tire inflator, generator, etc. I really debated on it way too much. Bought the $199 ryobi kit and took it back and ordered the $499 Flex stacked lithium hammer drill, driver, 7 1/4 saw, and 2 battery kit. Still waffle on whether it was the right choice or not and whether I should have gotten over myself and kept the Ryobi kit. Love the Flex tools, though.
I have stuff on most platforms now but I used to waffle back and forth as well. I don’t think there would have been anything wrong with either decision but I think you will like the flex.
I have Ridgid for most tools and a ton of batteries. The LSA is great as a home owner/diy and they are great tools. I have some Dewalt, Bosch and Metabo HPT. And I feel every DIYer needs some Ryobi batteries. For those niche or “fringe” tools that you don’t need to spend big bucks on. ie: fans, glue gun, speaker, some outdoor stuff, etc. They are great for that.
I prefer milwaukees m12 range. it's very compact and built to last. All tools have their cons unless its made by festool or snap-on because those 2 are in a league of their own
I'm on 4 platforms i find metabo hpt to be the best value of them all. Have a few makita 40v or XGT tools would of gone with milwaukee but I really done care for most of there saws other then the tracksaw they got that one right. But it wasn't on the market when i bought my makita 40v track saw.
I work hvac mostly doing service so running a old brushed m12 impact and drill. But i have alot of ryobi tools at home for wood working. My ryobi multi tool and reciprocating saw constantly go between my truck and garage
Prime example for 2 platforms. My primary is Milwaukee and I need powerful Impacts working on cranes. My secondary is actually Hercules which runs my grease guns band saws and a couple other things where I don’t necessarily need a hugely strong tool. This is good advice
Personally I've had Makita 18v for years and now I'm mixing it with Bosch due to the fact that they have eclipsed makita in thier drill and impact quality. Also the multi tool is lovely and although the starlock isn't the coolest especially when buying blades its still a great tool. And the sds hammers are still an industry leader. I do have some rypbi with a makita adapter for when I want a cheap knock arounder.
Great video, and well said all around! I do think the volume is a bit low on this one, as I had to dial way back for the ads and dial back up by a bunch for the video itself. Thanks again for the great content!
@@TinkerWithTools no worries, just thought I’d pass along the heads up ☺️ The video was just fine in terms of presentation and energy, just the mechanical volume was a bit low on my end at least. 😅
i appreciate the input.. i’m mostly a dewalt user..m12 line to make up the difference and my wife had a few ryobi.. now i don’t feel bad having more than one
I haven't personally done it but it's a great way to score some good tool deals. Garage sales or estate sales are another good one from what I have seen/heard.
My dad gifted me a Milwaukee impact driver/drill kit like idk, 6-7 years ago, so I never really had a choice in the matter when it comes to the run of the mill power tools. Granted, my bigger battery power lawn tools and the like have lately all started to slowly but surely become EGO brand. But I’ll never give up my stihl chainsaws
Can't beat the tools that someone gives you! And my outdoor power equipment is slowing moving over to EGO has well. I still have a fair bit of the Ryobi 40v but I would guess in the next year or two it will all be EGO.
@@TinkerWithToolsI would really like to get one of those mikita coffee makers just for the shits n gigs factor but I just don’t wanna have to shell out even more for a new battery set & charger 😂
The biggest single asset you will own will be the battery set you need to allow a days work. Splitting this up into 2 sets means you cannot do this without expending a lot of money. So do not ignore using battery adapters thus maintaining only a single set but being able to use multiple makes of tools. I have gone with Makita but have 2 x Milwaukee impact wrenches which I got a very good prices (bare tool only no batteries or chargers). A pair of inexpensive adapters allows me to use my Makita batteries with both makes thus allowing me to keep a larger quantity of Makita batteries. Using multiple manufacturers is just a waste of the worlds resources (assuming you even care).
Most professional platforms seem to be way less available, which is why I'll probably end up mostly goung with Ryobi. Also like their commitment to compatible batteries over the years. As an aspiring home tinkerer, I think their quality will be enough.
I think there are a lot of us that could certainly do just fine with a brand like Ryobi. I have quite a few Ryobi tools and some of my outdoor power tools are Ryobi. They have been great!
I’ve used many brands, dewalt which I had but they had a lot of fit and finish issues especially with the triggers and Milwaukee they have issues with batteries and the molding coming off the tools and Mikita was good but their hammer drill was bulky and their batteries felt like cheap plastic flex yes they are heavy but feel like quality tools and still feel good in the hand
Ok.. now I have this 12v Black+Decker drill and it literally smoked while I was working with my house's wall... I was just drilling some screws into... and the smokey happened after 3rd screw. So, definitely, I need to look for another better brand. I also have this WORX pruning saw which did really good job with my garden trees. So, I was kind of thinking makong WORX as my main brand. But it seems not many big box stores near me are selling this brand. I picked up that WORX saw since it was the perfect fit for my preference. The Milwaukee m12 one was too large for my hand and DeWalt one did not come with charger and batt. But then... this is drill set I am desperately in need to fix my crumbling wall. So, perhaps I should take a primary brand now then push the WORX to secondary brand? WORX provides many interesting stuffs for garden care tools but those big time drill brands seem to consider garden as secondary. So, I may only buy the drill set. And yet, those premium drill brands are quite expensive. I was looking at the DeWalt Atomic drill combo 20V at HomeDepot since they are similar priced with WORX Nitro which I was planning to at the beginning. But from what I heard, those DeWalt Atomics are quite inferior to XR variants which are almos double in price. I am afraid that those Atomics may end up like the crappy B+D one but XRs are too much. So yeah, I am not sure what to do.. Aiming for the DeWalt Atomics seems to be the most feasible option for me. And go for WORX for other things such as washers and blowers etc.
At the price range of the atomic, unless you are just dead set on being on Dewalt, I might suggest getting a different brand. By going with something like Kobalt (typically on sale), the new compact Metabo HPT kit (on sale for $149 right now with an impact). I haven't ever tried the Worx tools, but I can say that while the atomics aren't bad drills, I think there are better tools out there for that price point. And if size isn't a cocern, and you can wait a month to get it, the Flex Turbo Hammer Drill is only $99 for the kit right now. It's a big drill but it's very powerful, has great batteries and the platform shows a lot of promise.
I rarely use my tools but the few times that I need them, I like to have everything on me. I just started my tool collection about 2 or 3 years ago and for my hand tools I pretty much bought everything on discount (husky, Kobalt, milwaukee, a couple of toughbuilt items) or at HF (the icon wrench pliers are amazing and a lot cheaper than a Knipex for a DIYer like myself with lifetime warranty) slowly but surely as well as my power tools. I went for the milwaukee m12 platform and I love how many things they have and just how powerful the fuel line is. Maybe if I need something thats cheap or on sale that they make in my platform , I'll go for the non-fuel version of it. For the tools that I'm only gonna need like once in a blue moon and are either too expensive on the m12 line or they don't exist in m12, I'll probably go buy that specific tool in either ryobi or something cheap from harbor freight like I did with my bauer orbital sander. I got it on sale for like $20 (it uses a cord) for sanding some palette wood down for a DIY project about a year and a half ago and haven't used it since. I ended up buying the m12 fuel oscillating multi tool kit for $99 during the holidays with a free 6 ah battery so that one doubles as a sander and I love using it for cutting random things. Waiting for tool deals is a great way to build your collection and saving your money, especially for DIYers. Thanks for the video! Great advice!!
Problem is whether which one is Considered the Best tool brand, me being a Diy daddy, those brands are too Pricey purchasing them here in the Philippines...
@@TinkerWithTools Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Ferrex,Bosch Ozito are available but Way Too much for me to Own...I rely on Chinese brands and OEM's around here...If only someone can be Kind enough to let me Own one, even second owned Tools...
I am DIYer and in my country Makita LXT is quaite cheper then Dewalt9r Milwaukee and comon so my primary platform is mwkita LXT butI agree regarding the bataries, if I will buy secondary platform is Milwaukee 12v becuase what tools I have tried they are awesome.
@@TinkerWithTools Yes and US has its own strong manufactores like Milwaukee and Dewalt and when I see tne prices of tools in US regaridng our prices US prices are 30% lower or evan more, but milwaukee is getting more and more used also in Slovenia.
Hey, bud. Good to see your still going strong… did you ever review the m18 surge? Considering the purchase. Or the m12. You shared some good advice here!
I have tested it but it was a while back. My M18 surge has always been a little on the weaker side but it’s still nice to use. It’s an older tool at this point and I think we need to see a Gen 2 to both the M12 and M18. The M12 would get my vote but I think both are good.
I'm on a few platforms. I have some corded tools, which being a homeowner it helps to just plug in and have unlimited run time. I have Kobalt and Ryobi as my two main platforms. Kobalt tools are all Brushless since that's all they make. I have some brushed Ryobi tools for once and a while use. I also have a few lawn and garden deals I picked up for Ryobi. I have a DeWalt Impact and Driver kit, but I abandoned DeWalt when I saw the prices of their bare tools. Kobalt was cheaper $250 for 3 tools, flashlight, a 4ah battery, charger and a 4th free tool of my choosing in Black Friday 2022. I wanted a Sawzall and it was going to cost me about $200 for just a DeWalt Sawzall and a 4ah battery or close to $200, so I abandoned them to get the Kobalt kit for $250 and get way more tools. I run 18v Ryobi for garden tools and random tools like my oscillating tool. I hate the ones Kobalt and DeWalt make. I have a pressure washer, orbital buffer, hand vacuum, and a brushless leaf blower. With Ryobi and Kobalt I can pick and choose good deals and with DeWalt I can if needed buy something more professional if needed. I love my DeWalt Atomic drills just the rest of the platform can be expensive to maintain even just buying their brushed tools.
Which brand to go for? Whichever brand is having a current deal lol. Get two batteries and get the 845 and 805 for free. Guess I’m a dewalt guy now 🤷🏼♂️
I loved this video, especially the 2 brand suggestion. This other video(ruclips.net/video/P32PGx2oYPI/видео.html) on price should be a companion to this video. Right now I am kind of in a weird place with tools. I am a homeowner/low lever diy-er. I want to get into some stuff but I wont be anywhere near using these at a pro level. I currently have 12v milwaukee hammer drill and impact driver and recip. saw. I was thinking of sticking with M12 and getting their oscillating tool but then going with Ryobi for some other less used tools and some of their unique offerings like the power scrubber. I like the m12 for the compactness and light weight and crazy power. I don't know if i could justify getting some of the m18 tools because they can get costly. Im considering getting rid of my Milwaukee tools and getting a set of Rigid tools that will cover all the needs and keeping Ryobi for those one off/less frequent used. Im very indecisive about this and any input or examples of what folks are using would be greatly appreciated. Also is it bad that I wanted to go with Flex just because it matched my Ego OPE tools? 🤣
With the primary brand, Ridgid can be a great primary brand. They have tools that edge closer to Milwaukee than they do Ryobi at times. I would recommend waiting for sales where you can get batteries for free or free tools with a purchase to make the build out easier and less expensive. Since you already have current tools, replace the ones that you see come up on sale. Then Ryobi can serve as a great companion brand. They have great quality tools in their HP lineup and they have a lot of strange or crazy tools you don't think about often (like the glue gun for me - cordless glue gun is a game changer) and they can get those one off tools as cheaper. When it comes to Flex, they are certainly more professional, and my biggest complaint is the weight and size that comes along with a heavier more powerful tool, but also the 24v vs 18v battery. If you can get past those two things then I think that they are a nice brand that offers some crazy performance.
Easy. Look for made in USA. As an American I will always buy American unless there is no option. Only Milwaukee will have some products made in USA. All others are China. Stihl also has products made in USA or Germany. Not China.
@@TinkerWithTools I haven't checked the packaging at the local hardware store in a while, but my friend bought a Milwaukee multiple battery charging station the other day that had Made in USA on the box.
“I’m not really talking about hedging against brands going out of business. Most of us are picking from reputable tool brands” Me sitting here watching this video because I have a bench full of Porter Cable electric tools 😅😅
@@riba2233 I've only seen 3 dewalt batteries go bad and they where like 8 years old. Also what kills dewalt usually is people covering the vents with thier hand and running a 5in holesaw in speed 2
@@bread-gz3rl their packs have the most basic rudimentary bms compared to other big names, and their flexvolt packs have inherent flaw which allows them to go out of balance which is inexcusable. And they are not cheap
why does every american think dewalt and milwaukee are the best and everything else is a rank below, i use makita and hikoki and they are just so much more comfortable, way cheaper than milwaukee and a bit more expensive than dewalt , just as powerful if not more and way better warrantys, reliability run a lot cooler and have better battery life
@@kylehocking420 I think they are several reasons but in the American market in the last 10 years+ they have been the dominant two. In stores they have the most shelf space and so they have the most readily available tools. Brands like Makita and Bosch are great but if I can’t walk in and get hands on with the tools or get them when I need them if affects the perception.
I don't know much about theese but ryobi Sawzall is 100% best for your $ all 3 of mine get used and abused daily for the last 7 years. They have outlasted several batteries. I'm sure it's not a 700$ powerful but for 90$ it punches way above it's weight. If anyone cares😂 have a fantastic day everyone
As a non-pro, DIY enthusiast, I love the 2-platform advice. I have Ridgid and DeWalt and I’ve found the two platform strategy provides a great balance for my needs
I think it’s a good practical approach.
I've done the same. 12v DeWalt Xtreme for lighter tasks. And 18v Ridgid for heavier tasks.
I went Makita when choosing a primary. I bought into Ridgid later when I found a deal for their impact wrench. That got me into the line since it came with a charger and 2 batteries. Having the 2 lines has worked well for me for years now.
As a business owner with 55+ cordless tools, I’ve got 8 cordless lines 😂👌 top quality where I need it, save a ton of money where I don’t
Great way to look at it. I clearly have more top brands than the average person and I would also pick and choose tools for several brands for building my “best” tool lineup.
This is the way.
i run a lil of everything Milwaukee m12,m18 metabo 18v and 36v dewalt 20v, ryobi 18v, porter cable 20v, kobalt 24v,Bosh 12v hart 40v run em all and you will save money in the long run being able to take advantage of sales and deals all around
Agreed I was all milwaukee and just recently added/kind of switched to ridgid because of the warranty and ryobi.
I'm a tradesman and DIYer. I use dewalt, Makita, and Boshe. I buy stuff on sale and get that I want
I have a combination of Dewalt 12v and 20v tools. Doing the basement renovation, 12v tools are being used 90% of the time. For 20v, i got the dcf845, cutoff tool, DCD805 hammer drill and Atomic 4 1/2 circular saw. This is all i need.
12v tools have become increasingly capable of handling most things.
Excellent video, I'm an electrician by trade, my primary platform is Milwaukee, my secondary platform is Ryobi (tools that I use every once in awhile). I don't see myself switching platforms, but I've started to see some Hercules tools on the jobsite and I'm quite impressed with what Harbor Freight has to offer at a lower cost than the other big box stores offer. To be honest, if I were just a DIY weekend warrior, I'd look into checking out Hercules or Bauer. Ryobi and Hart are good platforms for the average DIYer to check out as well. If there isn't a Home Depot in your area, but you've got a Lowe's, Skil and Craftsman are also very viable options. Avoid Porter-Cable though, despite being Stanley- Black & Decker, their line is getting smaller and smaller.
Thanks! I appreciate the input.
I have a soft spot for makita one the first power tools I used was in shop class was the makita corded sander
Makita tools are nice. I know some people hate them but from what I have used they can be great.
With corded tools it has made sense to me to buy whichever tool I like best - not important to stick to one brand. With battery tools it's nice to stick with one brand.
I can understand that. The only reason I suggest two platforms is because no one brand makes a great version of everything. But I don’t fault anyone that prefers to be on a single platform.
There is an Irish guy that repairs tools on RUclips. He absolutely shits on Milwaukee, says there basically unrepairable, use crap parts and are built poorly. Can’t get replacement parts, last just till warranty ends.
I don’t know what the availability where they are located but I have been able to find smaller replacement parts for Milwaukee and other TTI companies where I am. From everything I have seen, newer tools are all fairly similar in that area.
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Finally someone with the 2-platform advice for the DIY user. I use the more expensive brand X for tools I use often but I also have inexpensive brand Y for tools I don't use that much or are simply to expensive to justify for me in brand X.
Spend more on the tools that matter... but something like Ryobi has several tools that I prefer the ryobi version because the performance just doesn't matter. For something like a van, my ryobi glue gun, etc, the performance difference just isn't there and I save money on the tools.
I've got multiple different lines as a plumber, hvac tech and electrician. Have Ridgid, Flex, Milwaukee, Makita, Ryopi, Ego, Kress and Echo. It all makes the world go round
Agreed.
A weekend warrior 💪. I am also on two platforms. A power tool you can get at a big box store and harbor fright. It works perfectly
Right on
Like your review and reasoning. I’ve been able to cut it down to only 6 platforms. Milwaukee, 12 and 18 volt Makita 18 & 40 volt, DeWalt, Bosch, Ryobi, Metabo HPT, and one remaining Rigid 71/4 inch sliding compound miter saw, I just can’t seem to part with 😅😁
I might have a problem here, or not!
It's only a problem if you let it be... I think that there are great tools that I love on a lot of different brands. I've owned tools from just about every brand and the dream set of tools is really a combination of them all. I get that's not feasible for everyone though...
I bet most of us are on a couple different platforms. I’m on 3 different ones Bosh, Makita and Milwaukee. Makita is my favorite but the others have there place.
Yeah I think it becomes more and more common place even though we talk about the benefits of being a single platform.
I'm also kn Makita and I'm considering investing in a second brand. Makita is great , but tool availability and battery development too. For example, the skill saw options. The only saw that uses one batter, is the 6 1/2" blade saw. If you want more power, then you need two batteries.
On battery two platforms now: Makita and Parkside. At this moment it delivers everything I need and almost every week good sales for upcoming home projects.
For the non professional user (like me) I would start out with a larger kit and I like the Dewalt 12v and Milwaukee Fuel 12v tools quite a bit. For larger tools like a grinder and sawzall, going to want 18v or higher tools with bigger batteries for those. I have Dewalt 12v and 20v tools and Milwaukee 12v and 18v tools, and a few Makita and Ryobi tools. I also have a couple newer Skil 12v tools that were a great value that made them worth getting. I've upgraded and changed several of my power tools the last few years and sold several tools. The more power tools you get the more brands your likely to want to try out.
Yeah I didn’t give 12v much love in this video but they are more than enough for a lot of people.
Bosch is my primary and Milwaukee is my secondary. EGO for landscaping.
I can't see why Bosch gets slept on so hard. Everyone that uses my stuff says they wish they weren't so stuck with their brand. Also, I don't like people using my stuff at all.
Bosch makes some solid tools and has some great sales at times that make the brand a compelling value but in the North American territory their tools just don’t garner too much attention.
@@TinkerWithTools I do phenomenal work with the stuff. I plugged into them back in 2010, because my small town has a Menards and they carry it.
That's a great advice.
I'm on three brands right now (Bosch, Milwaukee, Ryobi) and I got into two of these by BOGO deals that otherwise would've costed me the same as a bare tool on the brand that I already owned.
It's all about getting a good deal and now you have a backup brand when you want the best performance, price, ergonomics, weight or a combination of these.
I'll eventually keep only 2 brands as I only have a Ryobi hammerdrill and impact driver, though
I really like having a cheaper brand that can be for the tools that just don't need to be heavy duty. I have no doubt in my mind that my Ryobi fan will work just fine and cost 1/2 the price that something from a bigger brand. But you are dead on with the BOGO deal as a great entry point!
I have a mix of one platform and multiple. I keep one platform at home to make it easy and straight forward. But at work I have 3-4 different brands. That works well for me because each brand has good tools and not so good tools. I can mix and match depending on the job at hand. Great video man
Thanks and I agree with you!
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A great breakdown video brother. To be honest I don’t see how one can stick with a single platform nowadays 😂. So many great options across all brands👌.
Yeah you and I both know the benefits of being on every brand 😆
@@TinkerWithTools Touche my friend 😂. I’m glad you mentioned Metabo Hpt. They definitely earned their place and respect in the tool industry. Even though some of the staff is sketchy😂😂
I’ve got several tool brands I have used in my shop - Makita, M12, Bosch, Flex, Ryobi - though I got into Flex on founders warranty and have luckily accumulated the turbo drill, compact router, the variable speed grinder and a few stacked lithium batteries for a number under the list price of any one of those tools. I know in the US many people love dewalt and milwaukee (Personally adore the m12 installation driver, staple gun and others), but I have found that Makita & Bosch make the most comfortable, robust, and precise tools out there. Unfortunately, they both benefit from far superior marketing, tool releases, and general innovation in the overseas market. Cant go wrong with most of these brands, just my two cents.
Can’t say enough about Metabo HPT ergonomics. My opinion, but they just feel right. I like the Bosch feel as well - especially their cordless 18v sander.
That Bosch Sander is my favorite cordless sander by far!
This is probably one of the better videos only one I’ve heard recommend getting hands on time with the tools which is by far the best advice you could give someone. I just started buying tools and doing renovation work like 3 years ago now and I have gotten a few different brands dewalt, ryobi,Milwaukee, and I’ve gotten a few metabo tools on discount. For me as a homeowners I want to eventually get every platform because that way if there is a really good deal I can get it. But I totally understand why a contractor or trades person would want to have 1 maybe 2 platforms at the max. It’s easy though if you just have a charging station where you keep all they different chargers and batteries
Glad you enjoyed it.
It doesn't have the perfect brands , perfect lineups
But if you know how to choose and combine it , you will have the best tool store for yourself
Well said!
My cordless tools are all Makita LXT 18 and 36 Volt.
They are plenty powerful for my purposes and their ergonomics are second to none. As for their battery technology Makita has some of the longest lasting batteries in the business and they hold up under constant heavy use and abuse.
I do have a few corded Milwaukee tools and if I wasn’t on Makita’s platform I’d probably be on Milwaukee’s platform but never DeWalt.
I have makita and milwaukee, very happy with them both , was on dewalt or default as some call ,very happy since I got rid of them
I have some LXT tools and the the x2 rear handle saw. Not as much a fan of the two battery design after comparing it to XGT. But you are certainly right about the ergonomics
@@TinkerWithTools I have the 36v rear handle saw I like it , but can't justify going on the 40v platform just yet . Just bought a stiletto tbone 3 today for 300 euro as I live in Ireland so have to be good with tool buying for at least a week or so lol
Yeah I ended up getting both to do a comparison and haven’t done it yet but the XGT won me over. Performance is similar but the single battery and a few other creature comforts were the difference.
@@TinkerWithTools as far as x2 tools I have :
XEC01 9” Powercutter which is perfect for my needs (Drive Thru Detection Loops) note the saw’s performance is much better with a Premium Diamond Blade over the included Makita Diamond Blade.
XGD01 Earth Auger which is based on the Right Angle Drill and still functions as a Right Angle Drill, I haven’t used it as an Earth Auger yet but regularly use it for drilling holes in 3/16” to 1/4” steel tubing (Sonic Drive In canopy frames) using Bimetal Hole Saws. With the drill in Low Gear (350 RPM) I tape for the holes in the sides of the Hole Saw with electric tape and fill the Hole Saw with Sonic Ice (pellet). The melting ice keeps the Hole Saw and steel cold and provides plenty of lubrication while flushing the chips away. I generally get around 100 holes from each Milwaukee Hole Saw and it cuts faster and cleaner.
XUX01M5 36 Volt Coupleshaft Power Head and String Trimmer attachment, I also have the Extension Shaft, Hedge Trimmer, and Pole Saw attachments. It’s simply brilliant!
XCU07 36 Volt Chainsaw Nice Saw without the hassle of messing with a gas saw that sits for months without being used.
XML11CTXML11CT11 36 Volt Self Propelled 21” Lawnmower not a bad machine that I got on sale from Home Depot with 4 5ah Batteries and a charger for $300.00
Currently on some Black and Deckers that I got on sale on amazon, though in the future I have been eying ridget with their lifetime service guarentee. Im in no rush to switch, So I will wait until my current ones were out. I just like the idea of having a "buy once and set forever" powertool brand, like I do with my hand tools.
That being said, I could see having multiple tool brands arpund for different jobs. Thats how I am with my hand tools. I got Icon, gearwrench, dewalt, craftsman, and a random snap on or two. Just whatever tool does the job the best is always a good way to go.
I had some black and decker tools when I first started going woodworking and DIY, corded mostly. As I have gotten more tools they were slowly replaced but they certainly did what I asked them to do at the time.
I totally agree. The last couple of years I've gotten into the dewalt 12v line and especially with the drill and drivers the ergonomics is great compared to my 18v Ryobi which are thick with the handles because of the stem battery. As I get older (50 in Nov lol) I lean more and more for lighter tools but still have the power to get the job done and sometimes 1 tool brand doesn't quite cover it all.
If two tools can both do a job, I will likely go with the lighter tool or the once that is nicer to use. That is a big thing that most don't talk about on these type of videos.
You can also find adapters for different platforms to keep one style battery.
I know that people have had success with them. I have always wondered with some of the more modern technology heavy tools that communicate with the battery, what impact they would have. But it would be a way to stay on a single battery platform.
You should consider Dewalt for another reason Lowe’s and home Depot both carry the brand other brands can limit your retail locations to pick up you can find value by comparing similar models from the same line and play the retail game of who has the better deal
That’s a good recommendation. Access to the tools at most locations can be crucial!
Underrated comment Peter! This is something that was important to me making my tool decision.
I think an overlooked section of tools is the premium brands brushed and mid tier lines like Milwaukee non fuel brushless and Dewalt non xr or atomic brushless and brushed. I’ve got both Milwaukee fuel and their brushed tools. And both lines have taken everything I’ve thrown at them.
I have done some videos on the Milwaukee brushless and the non XR dewalts like the brushes and atomic. My issue with brushed tools at this point isn’t they they weren’t decent tools at their time I just think that being as old as they are at this point you can get better tools for equal prices.
As just a homeowner and DIY person you absolutely have to have RYOBI with the amount of tools and their commitment to bringing everything under the sun to market. I also have BOSCH 18v and 12v for some more serious tools / table /miter saw
Ryobi is a great brand for a lot of things.
Ive bought into makita and the bosch power for all system. I wanted to be able to buy tools cheaper than makita from time to time and i like how the batteries fir Batavia and Husqvarna tools.
Ive considered getting into ryobi for their solar panel/inverter combo, but I'm only interested in the tools only they make.
2:46 - I came to the same conclusion a long time ago tbh. I ended up with Milwaukee for the main platform, a bunch of Ryobi for occasional use, and some spesific Makita stuff that they just seem to do better than everyone else. I have considered swapping out Ryobi and Makita for Dewalt though, partly because i want some stuff from them like the multitool, but also because i have friends and family who use Dewalt so it would be easier to borrow / lend out to eachother that way. So far decided against it simply because of the price for "secondary" tools though.
Edit: I didnt mean this as a "I already know better than you" thing, I meant it as "yeah thats great advice!". Way too many prominent figures will hardcore claim that you MUST pick a platform and stick with it or else you will have more than 1 charger and God will smite you.
I agree. Limiting yourself to a single battery platform stops you from experiencing some great tools on other brands. I always looked for a deal that I felt was too good to pass up to buy into a new platform, then once I had a charger and battery, it really opens up the possibilities for deals on bare tools or clearance items from that brand.
@@TinkerWithTools Yeah exactly. Also alot of people seem to forget that batteries are consumables that needs to be replaced every so often anyway, its not actually THAT big of a deal to have all tools work on the same exact battery when youd have to buy new batteries at some point anyway.
Especially if youre on DeWalt where they change their platform every 2 months
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DIY-enthusiast/non-pro here. I went back and forth on it forever until I settled on Flex as my main brand with a drill, driver, saw, and sander (things I use the most) because of 1) quality 2) lower cost than Milwaukee/Dewalt XR and 3) lifetime warranty (and, to a slightly smaller extent, 4) the color scheme); and plan to grab Ryobi tools for others that i plan to not use as much--e.g. nailers and other things nice to have at home like the tire inflator, generator, etc.
I really debated on it way too much. Bought the $199 ryobi kit and took it back and ordered the $499 Flex stacked lithium hammer drill, driver, 7 1/4 saw, and 2 battery kit. Still waffle on whether it was the right choice or not and whether I should have gotten over myself and kept the Ryobi kit. Love the Flex tools, though.
I have stuff on most platforms now but I used to waffle back and forth as well. I don’t think there would have been anything wrong with either decision but I think you will like the flex.
I have 3 - Bosch 18v, Ridgid 18v and Flex 24v.
Nice selection!
I have Ridgid for most tools and a ton of batteries. The LSA is great as a home owner/diy and they are great tools. I have some Dewalt, Bosch and Metabo HPT. And I feel every DIYer needs some Ryobi batteries. For those niche or “fringe” tools that you don’t need to spend big bucks on. ie: fans, glue gun, speaker, some outdoor stuff, etc. They are great for that.
Great strategy!
I prefer milwaukees m12 range. it's very compact and built to last. All tools have their cons unless its made by festool or snap-on because those 2 are in a league of their own
I'm on 4 platforms i find metabo hpt to be the best value of them all. Have a few makita 40v or XGT tools would of gone with milwaukee but I really done care for most of there saws other then the tracksaw they got that one right. But it wasn't on the market when i bought my makita 40v track saw.
The track saw is nice. As for metabo HPT I don’t think I have ever paid full price for one of their tools. That’s where their value is for me.
I work hvac mostly doing service so running a old brushed m12 impact and drill. But i have alot of ryobi tools at home for wood working. My ryobi multi tool and reciprocating saw constantly go between my truck and garage
Prime example for 2 platforms. My primary is Milwaukee and I need powerful Impacts working on cranes. My secondary is actually Hercules which runs my grease guns band saws and a couple other things where I don’t necessarily need a hugely strong tool. This is good advice
Great example. Thanks for sharing!
Personally I've had Makita 18v for years and now I'm mixing it with Bosch due to the fact that they have eclipsed makita in thier drill and impact quality. Also the multi tool is lovely and although the starlock isn't the coolest especially when buying blades its still a great tool. And the sds hammers are still an industry leader. I do have some rypbi with a makita adapter for when I want a cheap knock arounder.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video, and well said all around! I do think the volume is a bit low on this one, as I had to dial way back for the ads and dial back up by a bunch for the video itself. Thanks again for the great content!
Thanks. Thanks for the feedback. I was getting over being sick (hence the lower energy overall) but I’ll check the audio for the next one.
@@TinkerWithTools no worries, just thought I’d pass along the heads up ☺️
The video was just fine in terms of presentation and energy, just the mechanical volume was a bit low on my end at least. 😅
I really do appreciate it.
Great video! very few people will take the step to have different platforms. I think more than one platform is the best way too if possible.
I agree Doc! And thanks!
i appreciate the input.. i’m mostly a dewalt user..m12 line to make up the difference and my wife had a few ryobi.. now i don’t feel bad having more than one
Glad it was helpful.
Picked up the Icon set a few weeks ago when it was a bit cheaper. Very happy with it.
Glad you are liking it. I have loved mine.
I like hitting flea markets where I look for made in USA hand tools and proven quality power tools. Having multiple chargers is not a problem for me.
I haven't personally done it but it's a great way to score some good tool deals. Garage sales or estate sales are another good one from what I have seen/heard.
My dad gifted me a Milwaukee impact driver/drill kit like idk, 6-7 years ago, so I never really had a choice in the matter when it comes to the run of the mill power tools. Granted, my bigger battery power lawn tools and the like have lately all started to slowly but surely become EGO brand. But I’ll never give up my stihl chainsaws
Can't beat the tools that someone gives you! And my outdoor power equipment is slowing moving over to EGO has well. I still have a fair bit of the Ryobi 40v but I would guess in the next year or two it will all be EGO.
@@TinkerWithToolsI would really like to get one of those mikita coffee makers just for the shits n gigs factor but I just don’t wanna have to shell out even more for a new battery set & charger 😂
The biggest single asset you will own will be the battery set you need to allow a days work. Splitting this up into 2 sets means you cannot do this without expending a lot of money. So do not ignore using battery adapters thus maintaining only a single set but being able to use multiple makes of tools. I have gone with Makita but have 2 x Milwaukee impact wrenches which I got a very good prices (bare tool only no batteries or chargers). A pair of inexpensive adapters allows me to use my Makita batteries with both makes thus allowing me to keep a larger quantity of Makita batteries. Using multiple manufacturers is just a waste of the worlds resources (assuming you even care).
I originally started with red but ended up with more yellow tools just because the deals are better for them
Most professional platforms seem to be way less available, which is why I'll probably end up mostly goung with Ryobi. Also like their commitment to compatible batteries over the years. As an aspiring home tinkerer, I think their quality will be enough.
I think there are a lot of us that could certainly do just fine with a brand like Ryobi. I have quite a few Ryobi tools and some of my outdoor power tools are Ryobi. They have been great!
I’ve used many brands, dewalt which I had but they had a lot of fit and finish issues especially with the triggers and Milwaukee they have issues with batteries and the molding coming off the tools and Mikita was good but their hammer drill was bulky and their batteries felt like cheap plastic flex yes they are heavy but feel like quality tools and still feel good in the hand
Sometimes experiencing a lot of the tools is the only way to figure out which ones you really like.
Ok.. now I have this 12v Black+Decker drill and it literally smoked while I was working with my house's wall... I was just drilling some screws into... and the smokey happened after 3rd screw.
So, definitely, I need to look for another better brand. I also have this WORX pruning saw which did really good job with my garden trees. So, I was kind of thinking makong WORX as my main brand. But it seems not many big box stores near me are selling this brand. I picked up that WORX saw since it was the perfect fit for my preference. The Milwaukee m12 one was too large for my hand and DeWalt one did not come with charger and batt.
But then... this is drill set I am desperately in need to fix my crumbling wall. So, perhaps I should take a primary brand now then push the WORX to secondary brand? WORX provides many interesting stuffs for garden care tools but those big time drill brands seem to consider garden as secondary. So, I may only buy the drill set. And yet, those premium drill brands are quite expensive. I was looking at the DeWalt Atomic drill combo 20V at HomeDepot since they are similar priced with WORX Nitro which I was planning to at the beginning. But from what I heard, those DeWalt Atomics are quite inferior to XR variants which are almos double in price. I am afraid that those Atomics may end up like the crappy B+D one but XRs are too much.
So yeah, I am not sure what to do.. Aiming for the DeWalt Atomics seems to be the most feasible option for me. And go for WORX for other things such as washers and blowers etc.
At the price range of the atomic, unless you are just dead set on being on Dewalt, I might suggest getting a different brand. By going with something like Kobalt (typically on sale), the new compact Metabo HPT kit (on sale for $149 right now with an impact). I haven't ever tried the Worx tools, but I can say that while the atomics aren't bad drills, I think there are better tools out there for that price point. And if size isn't a cocern, and you can wait a month to get it, the Flex Turbo Hammer Drill is only $99 for the kit right now. It's a big drill but it's very powerful, has great batteries and the platform shows a lot of promise.
I rarely use my tools but the few times that I need them, I like to have everything on me. I just started my tool collection about 2 or 3 years ago and for my hand tools I pretty much bought everything on discount (husky, Kobalt, milwaukee, a couple of toughbuilt items) or at HF (the icon wrench pliers are amazing and a lot cheaper than a Knipex for a DIYer like myself with lifetime warranty) slowly but surely as well as my power tools. I went for the milwaukee m12 platform and I love how many things they have and just how powerful the fuel line is. Maybe if I need something thats cheap or on sale that they make in my platform , I'll go for the non-fuel version of it. For the tools that I'm only gonna need like once in a blue moon and are either too expensive on the m12 line or they don't exist in m12, I'll probably go buy that specific tool in either ryobi or something cheap from harbor freight like I did with my bauer orbital sander. I got it on sale for like $20 (it uses a cord) for sanding some palette wood down for a DIY project about a year and a half ago and haven't used it since. I ended up buying the m12 fuel oscillating multi tool kit for $99 during the holidays with a free 6 ah battery so that one doubles as a sander and I love using it for cutting random things. Waiting for tool deals is a great way to build your collection and saving your money, especially for DIYers. Thanks for the video! Great advice!!
Thanks for sharing. Glad you liked the video!
Problem is whether which one is Considered the Best tool brand, me being a Diy daddy, those brands are too Pricey purchasing them here in the Philippines...
What brands do you have access too? I know we talk about the premium brands a lot but there are a lot of great budget brands here as well.
@@TinkerWithTools Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Ferrex,Bosch Ozito are available but Way Too much for me to Own...I rely on Chinese brands and OEM's around here...If only someone can be Kind enough to let me Own one, even second owned Tools...
In hvac, Dewalt gives you everything you need. I would spend the money on dewalt/Milwaukee instead of going to a lower tier company for niche tools.
That’s an approach that I take as well.
I am DIYer and in my country Makita LXT is quaite cheper then Dewalt9r Milwaukee and comon so my primary platform is mwkita LXT butI agree regarding the bataries, if I will buy secondary platform is Milwaukee 12v becuase what tools I have tried they are awesome.
Yeah, makita ends up being more expensive where I am. That's part of the reason why the brand is losing traction in the US market.
@@TinkerWithTools Yes and US has its own strong manufactores like Milwaukee and Dewalt and when I see tne prices of tools in US regaridng our prices US prices are 30% lower or evan more, but milwaukee is getting more and more used also in Slovenia.
Also thank you for honest reviews (seen also few other of your videos) usualy reviewers are biast to the brand they are using.
Thanks. I am glad you find them helpful.
Hey, bud. Good to see your still going strong… did you ever review the m18 surge? Considering the purchase. Or the m12.
You shared some good advice here!
I have tested it but it was a while back. My M18 surge has always been a little on the weaker side but it’s still nice to use. It’s an older tool at this point and I think we need to see a Gen 2 to both the M12 and M18. The M12 would get my vote but I think both are good.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks for sharing
Anyone want to buy a gently used m18 surge, so I can upgrade to makita?
Warranty is a big deal breaker for me. If i am going to spend over 300 dollars cover me i am going in. All good points.
There are a couple of great lifetime warranty or service agreements out there. 5 years is the next best thing in most cases. Thanks.
Personally I got Metabo for a prime and Bauer as a 2nd for tools not used a lot
Good picks.
Great advice on the sales to look for.
Glad it was helpful!
Im on milwaukee, flex, makita, and ego😬
Good choice on all. But especially EGO.
Milwaukee m18 and M12 every time…… but here in the UK we get ripped off with the price!!
I wish pricing were more consistent but the same thing happens where I am with European brands.
I'm on a few platforms. I have some corded tools, which being a homeowner it helps to just plug in and have unlimited run time.
I have Kobalt and Ryobi as my two main platforms. Kobalt tools are all Brushless since that's all they make. I have some brushed Ryobi tools for once and a while use. I also have a few lawn and garden deals I picked up for Ryobi. I have a DeWalt Impact and Driver kit, but I abandoned DeWalt when I saw the prices of their bare tools. Kobalt was cheaper $250 for 3 tools, flashlight, a 4ah battery, charger and a 4th free tool of my choosing in Black Friday 2022. I wanted a Sawzall and it was going to cost me about $200 for just a DeWalt Sawzall and a 4ah battery or close to $200, so I abandoned them to get the Kobalt kit for $250 and get way more tools.
I run 18v Ryobi for garden tools and random tools like my oscillating tool. I hate the ones Kobalt and DeWalt make. I have a pressure washer, orbital buffer, hand vacuum, and a brushless leaf blower.
With Ryobi and Kobalt I can pick and choose good deals and with DeWalt I can if needed buy something more professional if needed. I love my DeWalt Atomic drills just the rest of the platform can be expensive to maintain even just buying their brushed tools.
Not a bad strategy.
Which brand to go for? Whichever brand is having a current deal lol. Get two batteries and get the 845 and 805 for free. Guess I’m a dewalt guy now 🤷🏼♂️
I like to use battery deals as a way to get into a brand, then I can pick up a tool on that lineup if it ends up being the best one for me.
Seems like my biggest weakness will be color OCD 😂😂😂
i dont mind ryobi for certain things but that color wont match anything 😂.
Do not sleep on Ryobi when Nicad was in use all the craftsman 19-2v craftsman from sears guess what it was it was Ryobi
Ryobi doesn’t cater to the professional but for a lot of people their tools are more than enough.
Only one answer to the question Milwakee fule line m18 and m12 😊
best tool review for sure. thanks!
Thanks!
I loved this video, especially the 2 brand suggestion. This other video(ruclips.net/video/P32PGx2oYPI/видео.html) on price should be a companion to this video. Right now I am kind of in a weird place with tools. I am a homeowner/low lever diy-er. I want to get into some stuff but I wont be anywhere near using these at a pro level. I currently have 12v milwaukee hammer drill and impact driver and recip. saw. I was thinking of sticking with M12 and getting their oscillating tool but then going with Ryobi for some other less used tools and some of their unique offerings like the power scrubber. I like the m12 for the compactness and light weight and crazy power. I don't know if i could justify getting some of the m18 tools because they can get costly. Im considering getting rid of my Milwaukee tools and getting a set of Rigid tools that will cover all the needs and keeping Ryobi for those one off/less frequent used. Im very indecisive about this and any input or examples of what folks are using would be greatly appreciated. Also is it bad that I wanted to go with Flex just because it matched my Ego OPE tools? 🤣
With the primary brand, Ridgid can be a great primary brand. They have tools that edge closer to Milwaukee than they do Ryobi at times. I would recommend waiting for sales where you can get batteries for free or free tools with a purchase to make the build out easier and less expensive. Since you already have current tools, replace the ones that you see come up on sale. Then Ryobi can serve as a great companion brand. They have great quality tools in their HP lineup and they have a lot of strange or crazy tools you don't think about often (like the glue gun for me - cordless glue gun is a game changer) and they can get those one off tools as cheaper.
When it comes to Flex, they are certainly more professional, and my biggest complaint is the weight and size that comes along with a heavier more powerful tool, but also the 24v vs 18v battery. If you can get past those two things then I think that they are a nice brand that offers some crazy performance.
Buy one with the color you like most 😘
Big difference is a tool you use 15 minutes a couple months and a tool you use 15 minutes every hour
Rainbow 🌈 tool collection is the only way to go for the best of the best tool collections.
Easy. Look for made in USA. As an American I will always buy American unless there is no option. Only Milwaukee will have some products made in USA. All others are China. Stihl also has products made in USA or Germany. Not China.
I know Milwaukee has hand tools that are made in the USA but do they have any power tools that are still made in the US?
@@TinkerWithTools I haven't checked the packaging at the local hardware store in a while, but my friend bought a Milwaukee multiple battery charging station the other day that had Made in USA on the box.
Yo. I like the idea of two platforms. I thought we got sorted into one like at Hogwarts.
The best tool collection probably has representation from several colors of tools.
“I’m not really talking about hedging against brands going out of business. Most of us are picking from reputable tool brands”
Me sitting here watching this video because I have a bench full of Porter Cable electric tools 😅😅
Sorry about that man! Stanley Black and Decker has done them dirty.
Id go with dewalt, can beat the hell outta them and theyre cheaper then Milwaukee but dont have battery and charger problems like ryobi.
They do have battery problems and their quality is not really good in general
I think DEWALT can be a great choice and if it’s working for you then clearly it was the right one for you.
@@riba2233 I've only seen 3 dewalt batteries go bad and they where like 8 years old. Also what kills dewalt usually is people covering the vents with thier hand and running a 5in holesaw in speed 2
@@bread-gz3rl their packs have the most basic rudimentary bms compared to other big names, and their flexvolt packs have inherent flaw which allows them to go out of balance which is inexcusable. And they are not cheap
Dewalt pulls that garbage to confuse the customer. I really don't appreciate the marketing guys.
Yeah, they have muddied the waters in terms of their product line.
Tinker with tools, not to be confused with tweakers with tools.
That's pretty good!
@@TinkerWithTools , yeah, I couldn't resist. I love puns.
why does every american think dewalt and milwaukee are the best and everything else is a rank below, i use makita and hikoki and they are just so much more comfortable, way cheaper than milwaukee and a bit more expensive than dewalt , just as powerful if not more and way better warrantys, reliability run a lot cooler and have better battery life
Just to be clear, I wasn’t ranking anything but price in the video.
@@TinkerWithTools i know i was just wondering why a lot of americans think milwaukee and dewalt are the best and in a league of there own
@@kylehocking420 I think they are several reasons but in the American market in the last 10 years+ they have been the dominant two. In stores they have the most shelf space and so they have the most readily available tools. Brands like Makita and Bosch are great but if I can’t walk in and get hands on with the tools or get them when I need them if affects the perception.
I pick up whatever is on sale😂
Not a bad strategy.
I don't know much about theese but ryobi Sawzall is 100% best for your $ all 3 of mine get used and abused daily for the last 7 years. They have outlasted several batteries. I'm sure it's not a 700$ powerful but for 90$ it punches way above it's weight. If anyone cares😂 have a fantastic day everyone
I appreciate you sharing. Glad you found a good one.
Say platform again.