Camaro ZL1 Bad Punk'n EP2 - Ported Supercharger Huge Horsepower Gains
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Alright everyone, bring it in! The FLHP 2019 Camaro ZL1 is taking things to the next level with a ported supercharger in Episode 2 of the Bad Punk'n series. That means upgrading our pulleys and testing the capabilities of the full-tilt LT4 ported blower from our friends at Jokerz Performance. That is combined with the tried and true 103mm throttle body from our people at Katech Performance to max out this Camaro on 93 octane... BUT, we didn't stop there. So check out the video for an MS109 bonus (WITH D*NO SHEET)! She's come a long way from the stock pulley, stock supercharger.
Throughout these tests, the blowers were fed by nothing less than the awesome cold air intake supplied by the team at Roto-Fab.
There's no shortage of information, d*no pulls, graphs, specs, wrenching, time lapses, side-by-side comparisons, and all the details you all appreciated in Episode 1, which if you haven't seen yet, you can check out right here👇
2019 Camaro ZL1 Bad Punk'n - Stock Power vs Headers Install with Tune:
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To learn more about this Camaro ZL1's performance parts visit:
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katechengines.com/
www.roto-fab.com/
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For those of you who want to skip ahead to each section of the video, we've placed the chapter markers for you below:
00:00 Start
00:22 What Happened In Episode 1
01:08 What Episode 2 is all about
02:43 Removing the Factory LT4 Supercharger
04:16 Supercharger Removed (Exposed Intake Ports)
05:13 Removing Coolant Passages from the blower
06:57 Removing The LT4 Supercharger Snout
08:38 Removing the stock (2.3) pulley (Timelapse)
09:02 Pressing in the new pulley (2.45)
09:22 Re-installing the blower (clearing the PCV tank)
10:29 Comparing the OEM Supercharger Lid vs. DSX CNC Billet Lid
12:10 Placing the DSX billet lid onto the supercharger
12:41 Bleeding Coolant (Heat Exchanger Pump Cavitation)
14:12 D*no Pull with the new Pulley and Lid
14:30 Innovators West Pulley (Harmonic Balancer) Comparison
16:42 OEM LT4 Supercharger vs. Ported Jokerz Performance Supercharger
20:21 Katech 103mm Black Anodized Throttle Body (Plug n' Play)
21:34 MS109 D*no Pull with full bolt-ons, ported supercharger, and TB
21:54 RESULTS BREAKDOWN
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You are so transparent, articulate and professional - it's such a pleasure watching your work and presentation - I'm so sick of watching performance shops who permit bad language, smoking, mechanics who think they are comedians while working on the customer's car - you do it right - THANKS
Thank you, I am glad you enjoy our content. I try to explain things in a manner that can be understood by someone who may not have the knowledge or background that I do. A lot of DIY garage warriors out there nowadays looking for accurate and unbiased info to guide them. That is who these videos are for. Episode 3 coming soon - head cam swap!
Seriously love your video’s! I have a 17 and have learned so much from your video’s. Thank you so much for your time and putting these together. Very well done! Keep them coming bro!
Glad you find them useful and fun to watch. MORE TO COME! Thanks again.
Great video. Appreciate the details in the video. Shows your knowledge and appreciate you sharing it. I just bought a ZL1 and look forward to watching all of your videos…..SUBSCRIBED.
Thanks so much….more content coming soon!
Been waiting for this to drop!
Very informative and easy to understand, great job explaining things. I love the idea of just doing basic bolt ons and keeping things simple for the basic DIY guys like myself.
Hey thanks a lot- appreciate it. Glad you found it informative. That’s my goal.
Great episode/ I put that Eaton blower on my 18 SS1LE and really got a lot of good tech from you here. Time for some porting! Thanks guys
Enjoy! Thanks for watching.
Awesome as always! Great video! 👍
Thank you Sir! Glad you enjoyed it….
Really enjoyed the video - very cool. This summer I picked up a slightly used blue 2019 ZL1 convertible, with only 1333 miles on it, that I nicknamed Stitch (the little blue monster). After watching your videos I'm thinking about doing some of these mods. I'd like to hear the supercharger more so definitely going to do the rotofab CAI and now I'm going to look at the supercharger cover. (Yes, even on the convertible with the top down you can hardly hear the blower.) I might do the headers and exhaust, but I'd probably have to leave one set of cats in to pass emissions testing in Missouri. I know all the exhaust manufacturers say you can't use their stuff on a convertible, but I was chatting with a support tech at Borla about it after your first video and he said it can be done, you just have to make a small custom section of pipe to clear the x-brace on the convertible. I don't want to add too much more power as I don't want to twist the car, but a little more whine, a little more growl, and maybe a little more efficiency would be cool. I'm also working on some custom aero touches to set my car apart. Don't want to just add the little canards like everyone else seems to be doing.
Thanks for watching- let me know if you need anything - Erik
What a Pro, requested a quote after hours and Erick called me while he was driving home. Explained everything and I can’t wait to give him my ZL1 1 Le and rock his colors on the West Coast of Florida.
LETS GOOOOO! Talk soon
Great information Eric. I am running an LSA 6.0 in my 69 CHEVELLE
That is awesome!
Nice work 💪🏻
Thanks!
Awesome video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Amazing work
Thanks!
Solid video and good info
Thanks for watching
What a great video ! Thx sir
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. We are currently upgrading the heads and camshaft and will be putting an episode out soon!
Very informative. 😊
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
Erik, you're really good.Tell ppl to bring their car in for you to build it rather than telling them to build it themselves. Of corse they can but doesn't help your bottom line much.....
Thank you. My transparency and willingness to share my knowledge and results openly like I do have helped our bottom line tremendously- I have customers sending me their vehicles from all over the United States.
Great video
Thank you
Thank you for the information
I just got a 2018 ZL1. I wasn't sure what to start with or how to go. I'm looking forward to getting started on mine.
Thanks for watching, if you need anything I’m here to help.
I can't wait to see what a big gulp intake will do for you. I have a Maggie 2650, cam, headers, f.b.o and only went from the roto to the roto big gulp and made almost no gain. 2hp is all. The R.P.M 's went from 6,400 to 6,600 on peak hp# but I was seriously disappointed for what I spent. And as people know they don't want you to return a used part.
While I fully back Roto and their full line of intakes, I will say that bigger isn’t always better. This goes not only for intakes, but throttle bodies, camshafts, injectors and other parts. It’s all about BALANCE. No one component will prove to be the silver bullet. Performance is all
About many parts working together in perfect harmony. That’s what I did in this episode. I didn’t go with the most boost- I didn’t go with the biggest TB- or the highest octane fuel. I carefully selected parts that compliment one another- and the results speak for themselves. Im making power with bolt ons that others are making with head and camshaft work. I am going to switch to a big gulp when we install the new engine coming from LME. It will be required to move the air the larger displacement will require to do what it does. Thanks for checking out the video!
I mean carrying the power out further up top is as good as gaining peak power so not too bad for just an intake change when you already had a good one before. The higher boost level you have more it will help. Throttle body also needs to flow well or the intake won't do much. These blowers hate inlet restrictions. I mean positive displacement ones.
Great video!! I sold my H/C C6 Z06 and are looking to scoop up a ZL1 1LE soon. I’m in Orlando and plan to bring it to you guys. You’ll are very thorough, explain everything, are to the point and don’t blow smoke. I’ve used a outfit outside of Tampa for my C6 build (with things I was not capable of doing) however are looking to switch it up a bit. Keep up the good work and look forward to chatting with you’ll in the near future. 👍🏻👍🏻
Miss my C6Z!! Google “matte blue Z06”…that was mine, with the Strasse forged wheels and all. Was a beast. Hey man, thanks a lot, we will be here when you’re ready.
360 Customs?
@@leea4624 I don’t understand the question
@@floridahighperformance sorry about that, speed therapy said he went somewhere outside of Tampa, I was just asking him about that. My bad for the confusion. BTW, I hope to bring my ZL1 to you guys at some point. I love the videos, workmanship, and explanations.
@@leea4624 all good man- just wanted to make sure you didn’t have any questions- appreciate ya
Nice job
Thank you
BADASS!!!
Thanks!!
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awesome video. do you think tho with pushing 16.5 now that there’s a chance you could be overworking the blower? i know a lot of people say it’s not worth it due to heat soak.
Thanks a lot. No heat soak at all on this set up- but then again I don’t track this car like so many do. Few answers to your question: one, 16.5 PSI on this ported supercharger is the sweet spot. Anymore and you’re past the critical speed of the unit- just killing it slowly. Two, a top mounted supercharger has to be the absolute worst option for a true “track car”. They all get hot- no matter the size or speed they turn. Show me one true road race car that excels in all aspects with a positive displacement blower on it. You won’t- it doesn’t exist. SO- with that being said- this is a wicked combo and is kicking ass considering what it’s being asked to do. Street and dyno it does just fine!
Great video. I have almost exact setup ported blower, 103 lower n upper pulley with headers and rotofab. If you wanna add race fuel does it require a tune? I plan on adding a katech oil pump and cam later if you happen to do this could you make a video? Thanks
Cool! YES- race gas requires a custom tune. DO NOT run race fuel without a proper tune- it can be very bad.
Episode 3 will spotlight a head cam swap on the stock motor….
Hey guys, just found your channel on this video. Subscribed. Wow! Long time road racer looking to pull trigger on a Z06 or ZL1 1LE. Curious if you might share your thoughts on which platform has best track potential. Z06 has cooling issues and 1LE is heavy. Car will be weekend toy 90% of time and tracked 4 weekends a year. E85 flex & manual. Can’t wait to catch your other videos.
Hey Andy. Thanks for sub and watching. Hands down...ZL1 1LE....thank me later. I love a bad ass Vette, but the Camaro is much better suited in my opinion. Better cooling, cost to fix (and own) is less, performance is amazing, and the 1LE handling and aero is pretty stout from the factory. They love E85...
If you need any more info, feel free to reach out or use my videos as a guide. We are currently installing heads and a camshaft on Bad Punkn. Episode 3 coming soon!
@@floridahighperformance Thanks for reply. Currently in a C8 Z51. Got full exhaust, intake, 2pc rotors, and lowered. Freaking fun car. Haven’t tracked it yet. Don’t think it would compete with ZLE with track mods.
I understand the GM concept of this package,...all the dependable, competitive,ext. horsepower from factory and I think you did a great job staying inside the same guidelines by just making good , great ... But I'm SS not ZL1 so I have been thinking about Pro charger just because of price difference or NOS WHAT'S your experience
Thanks for checking out the video. NOS isn’t like boost- it is it’s own animal with a lot of technical things that have to be done to make it reliable. ProChargers are nice- work well- and tend to make a bit more peak HP than a positive displacement supercharger. Depends where you want your power to be made.
What's your opinion on cams? I love that chop. I'm about to upgrade my ZL1 next month
They work very well - I am installing new heads and our custom camshaft into Bad Punk'n and shooting EP. 3 soon!
Awesome video. How often would you recommend to bleed the coolant on a ZL1?
Thanks so much. 70/30 dexcool to distilled water is what I run. Very very slow evaporation- so long as system stays sealed, pretty much never. Some guys run straight water- some guys run 50/50 dexcool distilled….whatever floats ya boat. Have a great weekend and thanks for watching
Hi there! Great video. So in your opinion would that current setup on a road course doing multiple 20 min sessions be able to handle the increased heat load from the extra boost. Current owner of a ZL1 mostly stock. But considering a similar set up on my car I just don’t want to over heat on the track. Thank you!
Hello. For track, I’d slow the blower down quite a bit- 12-13 psi boost max- and add a bunch of cooling upgrades to the heat exchanger system. We are actually going to be modding a ZL1 here soon that sees the track- and we will cover the build and how it runs at Sebring- stay tuned!!!
The 19’s up didn’t have oil pump issues right? I’ve heard some of the early cars were having oil pressure issues
Supposedly fixed in 19. I’ve never had a failure on any Z I’ve done…and if we mod I ALWAYS install Katech pumps
Nice build car is crazy, how much would it be to have everything from episode 1 & 2 done to mine? I have a 2023 zl1
Thanks a lot. Shoot me an email I’d be happy to quote it. Sales@flhighperformance.com
can you list all the upgrades this has besides the upgrades you installed during the video? I believe somewhere in the video you mentioned exhaust/header combo? or did i hear wrong?
Hey buddy. Go check out episode 1. We are building this car in a series of episodes- each episode building off the previous one. Episode 1 goes into great detail on all of that. Let me know if you have any more questions
I would like to see a N/A set up now that the ECM can be tuned. Straight 93 pump gas tune. Heads, cam, and other necessary parts.
All in the works. We will also be tuning one on flex fuel, 93 and E85!
A lot of shops push the 2650 I like that you guys are using the OEM blower. Question is the 2650 really that much cooler than the 1.7 LT4 blower? Shops keeping telling me to not do upper just do lower and H/C due to all the heat
We don’t recommend a 2650 until you increase cubic inches…like a 416 or 427. That’s not to say you can’t benefit from a 2650 on SBE, but that’s just how we do things. We look out for our clients and their hard earned money and look for ways to stretch their dollars. Porting the stock blower is proven to make power without breaking the bank. Yes, 2650 has far superior efficiency over the 1.7…but for most folks on the street, that efficiency is never really taken advantage of. Heads and cam have little to do with IATs- rather they increase airflow through the engine…blower temps will still rise regardless…
@@floridahighperformance man I like how you guys think. That makes a lot of sense how that 2650 isn’t needed until you get into stroker build area. What cooling mods are necessary for the OEM blower? I know heat exchanger for sure
With a stock set up how much boost would that 9.1 lower add?
Do you have the part number for the gates belt you used with the 2.45 upper and 9.1 lower pulley combo? I was going to run a 2.3 upper with a 9.1 lower pulley combo as well but if you were getting belt slip I’ll just go with the 2.45 upper and 9.1 lower setup
email me, I have all that stuff in my notes...
sales@flhighperformance.com
An NA LT1 Camaro build would be great to see plz.
All in the works!
Can I run a flex fuel sensor with c16? You briefly mentioned something about it in video? Can you explain please. I’m trying to run c16
Technically speaking, you can use the sensor to measure 0% content (which is what C16 will be). When the ECU sees 0% eth coming through, you can set your timing for C16. When it sees 9% Eth content (like pump 93, or any E85 based fuel), you can set timing for that as well. That is how we use flex sensors with C16....
can you provide a part number for that vacuum/fill device you used!
It was a tool made by Kent-Moore. It no longer exists. Nor do the fittings and lines. I was VERY lucky to have found one on eBay- new in the box. It was the actual tool GM used - or still uses but you can’t find it. There are some other DIY bleeder tools on the market that also work pretty well like the Cooler Bleeder
Do you need to change the tune when ypu put in the race gas 109? Interested in copying this on a lt4 ctsv on Canadian 94 pump gas
Yes absolutely. When you change fuel types you must tune for them. I have a tune file for 93 and a file for 109. The major difference being ignition advance.
Are you using a ngauge I use one on my boosted c6
@@siihighperformancelighting2390 No, I use HP Tuner software on my laptop to change tune files. Ngauge works too if you have one and your tuner can supply you with the different fuel maps.
Where are you located? I’m in Jacksonville Florida and would love to get a stage 1 or 2 package done! Idk how much hp I can get for 8-10k! So many shops are telling me different things.
Boca Raton, FL. 5 hours south of you....easy drive down 95. Shoot me a call or email and I would be happy to help. sales@fhighperformance.com or 561-609-2991
- Erik
Ive got an 18’ ZL1 with a corsa catback and rotofab CAI. Im ordering kooks headers with green cats and an LMR billet lid. As far as pulleys what would be the best combo. I dont see myself porting the supercharger or doing anything else to the car after adding an upper or lower pulley or both. The car is staying on 93 with no meth. What in your opinion would be the best pulley combo for the most power but retaining as much reliability as possible?
I’d go 9.5 lower…2-3lb gain over stock and you’re good to go- nice and safe!
Thank you! Also have you heard about oil pump failure on the 2017/2018 zl1’s? I haven’t had problems on mine but would it be smart to change the stock one to a katech oil pump or wait until something possibly happens. I wonder if you know many people with that problem. And how much would it typically cost to replace the stock one with a katech one?
@@tylersosnowski843 I’ve modded/built/tuned hundreds of LT engines since 2014. Oil pump failure is rare- less than 5% I’d say…based off my own experience. I’ve had maybe 5 LT engines fail- thrust bearings, rod and mains- etc. Never had a pump take a dump. Katech oil pumps are standard on ALL of our cam swaps- wet and dry sump. Katech takes the stock pump and modifies it- making it more robust and reliable. If customer isn’t willing to spend the money we don’t do it- period.
@@tylersosnowski843 replacing the pump is a big job. It’s a cam swap- basically. Pan comes down to remove pump. If you’re doing that- swap the cam.
What is the equivalent liter displacement of a Jokers ported LT4 blower?
Not exactly sure what the displacement changes to…the same rotor pack is used so I don’t think very much…
Could you run heads cam with the same setup on 109 with no fuel system upgrades?
Glad you asked....episode three is right around the corner...and will answer your question.
Instead of a 9.1 lower pulley am I able to do a 9.10 and still keep stock fuel system ?
Bad Punkn ZL1 is on completely stock fuel system….to date.
Wow that’s insane… thank you !
I can’t find the lt4 look alike kid anywhere on dsx
It’s separate from the lid itself. It’s a coating option they offer.
Can you run av gas
Negative
How much was the cost to build this if it was your costumers? Parts and labor?
About 15k or so
@Florida High Performance thank sir , so round it up at 17k to be sage for a 2022 2ss camaro
@@gilbertahsam643 Non ZL1? Completely different quote....
Do you offer this current setup as a package?
Absolutely- since the launch of this video I’ve booked 3 identical jobs like this
Price check on the set up?
@@stangdemon82 email me sales@flhighperformance.com Erik
Awesome info on your work on the pumpkin 🎃, We've communicated I think 7 months or so ago via e-mail when I asked if you could change the oil in my 2.9 whipple on my '17 ZL1!! You said not yet but eventually, I know where you are and I'd love to drop by and meet you and check out your operation. I'm Dominick so you'll know who I am. Keep up the great vids and im a new subscriber.
Thanks again man- come by anytime
@@floridahighperformance will do, I'm in Delray. You're gonna kill it with builds like this bro, that ZR1, 1100-1200whp is NUTS!!
@@dominicksforza3484 man just the beginning
Are you worried about the DOD lifter with the extra power?
No DOD on this engine from factory...
No headers on this video, correct?
This episode is a follow up to Episode 1 where I installed ARH headers. Yes the vehicle has headers in this video and will so on all remaining episodes.
With headers or Stock headers
With….go watch episode 1
@Florida High Performance I have similar same setup
Headers
Hjs cats 200 cell
Kong x ported blower
97 octane pump gas (102 octane) Germany
Roto fab intake
103mm tb
Heat exchanger
Cousum LMP LID
2.30 pulley 15-16psi Max boost
I just want add flex feul for try e30 97 octane mix
@@hythekiller sounds awesome
I thought this was Nemo at first from another channel 😭
Nemo is a bad boy- and this will be too
Tap it from the backside 😂
Hellcat killer but put the same size throttle body an supercharger that comes on the dodge or mustang Camero wins all day
Do you recommend meth injection for more power and cooler iat
Yes meth has several advantages on any forced induction engine.
I could have added it at any point on this vehicle and reaped the benefits- I just haven’t….no particular reason…just haven’t. Wanted to show folks that it can be done without meth. A lot of clients are weary of adding meth- so I didn’t add it into this build. I may at some point….
4+ ads a video .. come on man
That’s up to RUclips not me brother- and yes I agree their ads are getting out of hand
How much $$ all together ?
Parts, parts and labor? Which one
Both .
@@joedrazic6764 Bout 15 k or so all in parts labor tuning...parts total about 10k give or take...it can vary but this is a general ballpark