The media consensus is that Tomlin would be hired quickly somewhere else if the Steelers fired him. That’s great! Can we play that team first in the playoffs?
That’s such a toothless statement for people/media to make as well. There are probably 10 coaches in the league who you could say the same thing about. If Tomlin was fired, the Steelers would have plenty of qualified candidates interested in taking over his job; it goes both ways.
Dan Rooney lived and breathed football. Art Rooney is a businessman who cares more about profits than any on field success. Its painfully obvious at this point. No playoff wins since he took over. RIP Dan, the steelers way died with you.
To be fair they both were about profits or they wouldn’t be where they are. It is hard to win a world title. We act like we are a lock every season to win. The reality is we have find a great quarterback. When we had Big Ben he was the reason we won or lost not the coach. Ben won with both coaches. We need the players to win. We could have had bill belicheck and we would have lost that game . We don’t have the talent. We need to add some pieces . We don’t need to clean house and start from scratch. When ever we are winning games you guys say “ tomlin is the best” when they lose they should fire him and send him packing out of town!😂 get a grip with your emotions. Question if you make a mistake a work should your employer fire you right away or give you some respect that you earned because you have been there for 18+ years and never had a losing season. The reality is Mike T is going to be hard to fire. He will need another bad season for that to happen.
I didn’t watch a snap this season until the playoff game. Didn’t miss it at all. The only reason I watched the game Saturday is because of friends. Otherwise, I would have found something else to do. Apathy has set in.
People say that when going through a divorce, if people are angry and snapping at each other, they still care.... at this point, I've reached indifference.
Yup apathy, we're all reaching that point. I've been there since 2017. That loss to the Jags and Blake Bortles broke my spirit. I haven't yelled or gotten mad at a loss since. Now I just laugh and go on with my day.
@@yeahspring36 this is a terrific analogy. When you stop fighting with the other person, you’ve given up and made your peace that it’s done. I feel the same about the Steelers. Pretty much makes me not want to watch. In fact, in recent years since our first (and only) child was born, I miss around 5 or 6 games per year because of “stuff.” When I was younger, that would never happen. I don’t care where I was or what was planned I’d have the game on somewhere and in some form. Now, it just feels not that important. I don’t think things will change and it sounds like the Rooneys are happy to just keep running it back year after year.
It's going to start getting REALLY embarrassing for Tomlin. Every year he is eating away at his legacy. In fact, this is what he will be remembered for, even more than the SB's. Think about that for a second. He has overstayed his welcome with Steeler fans for so long, that the SB appearances mean less than the playoff losses do. Never mind the Steelers, The Rooneys and Tomlin need to realize it's the best thing for Tomlin. It's a bad move for him to stay. A SB winning coach (with never a losing record ) is becoming a total joke, with memes and videos and massive public ridicule. He may or may not really care at all (I actually think he does) , but it's 100% true. Noll needed to leave, Belichick needed to leave. For god sakes Mike, leave!!! With your contract clause, you can do it on your own terms too.
He never had a legacy only fake fans with no football knowledge think he a good coach he landed in a well built team and ran the team to the ground. Anyone could of accomplished what he did I said 10 years ago he should been fired
What legacy ? Won a Superbowl with players draft and grom by other coach his haven't had a loser season is totally crap he ain't got no coaches of his going to other teams he's a joke and Rooney ain't the right owner either he suck am not watching Steelers or buy Steelers crap until Tomlin is out .
We are currently in the early 80s of the Noll era. Good enough to make the playoffs, but that's it. We already know what followed after that. And this owner is content with letting that play out in its entirety.
Nice to see Art's loyalty is to his failure coach instead of the city and the fans that have supported, and made his family the unofficial royal family of Pittsburgh. Thanks Art.
@@seanlynskey9235 The fans have to go on a "Steeler diet" for a year or two to give Rooney the message........then, change would occur. He needs to feel it in the pocketbook....
Tomlin’s post game press conference was the best indication for how bad things have gotten. Tomlin just seemed relatively content after getting blown out by his rival in the playoffs. He knows he’s not going anywhere until he’s good and ready.
Exactly. The noise for Tomlin to leave now is more deafening than any coach I can think of, even Marvin Lewis. My only hope is that Tomlin gets an amazing offer from another team, and leaves on his own terms, thus saving his ego.
@@dr.scanlan6112 NE fans made it clear they wanted Mayo out and Vrabel in. They got their wish. Fortunately Vrabel wanted in. We don’t have a Vrabel, but we can’t keep doing the same thing over and over.
As my Dad would say, the owner is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. After this decision I'm done with the Steelers. MT should have been gone 3 years ago. I don't follow the Pirates now add the Steelers to that. All I have left are the Pens and that doesn't look good either. 😟
Fellow Steeler fans!!! Please stop going to the games, cancel your season tickets, stop buying the Merchandise and shut off the games. Boycott the Steelers until the Rooney’s get the message we have all had enough of Tomlin and the regime! Now I realize that sadly most of you will ignore this message and that will be to your detriment because next year will be a repeat of this season. If you are happy with that then enjoy the abuse! At this point Art Rooney is abusing you! Please WAKE UP!!
That’s what needs to happen this season. Every game. All year. The Rooney’s need to be pressured into firing Tomlin. I don’t think Canada would have been fired without those chants and the national attention they received. Time to make it happen for Coach Teflon.
Remeber when Ben was acting like a fool crashing motorcycles and Dan Rooney said cut the shit or youre out. To be a steeler is a privlage... I wish we still had that. While we have beennin purgatory Washington changed their name TWICE, yeeted the useless owner, hit a slam dunk in the draft because of lol losing season and already got a playoff win and are set with Daniels looking like a stud. Meanwhile we are the just above .500 club doing nothing
Some other franchises who have rebuilt from laughing stocks to playoff wins / SB contenders: lions, commanders, Texans. All jokes of franchises a few years ago and could only get a few wins a year, now look at them, far greater than the Steelers. Even bengals and jags and browns have won playoff games recently
The only way we get Rodney's attention to make a move is if ticket sales decline as well as sponsorships. That will never happen, thus the cycle will continue.
NOTHING will change. Tomlin will be forced into retirement by Art II after he loses a '27 road wildcard game by 31 points. The last play will be a jump ball to Cal Austin.
Wonderful show again, DK. Thanks for voicing your opinions, which closely align with how so many of us feel right now. It feels so helpless to be a fan right now. Nothing changes, and it's just the same thing over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I'd love to be a fly on the wall in a meeting room with Art and Tomlin. I just wonder how they deal with each other. How does their dialogue unfold? Tomlin has a dominant personality, and Art seems like a timid businessman who is not close to his father's legacy. I feel like the Rooney family is really out of touch with how fans feel and what the city wants. The fire/trade Tomlin train has never had more passengers. It's wild right now. I've never seen this kind of momentum. It's so disheartening to read that nothing will change and they're just running it all back.
We are the biggest and most dedicated fan base in the country. That should stand for something. As fans can we call Rooney out? Will he listen to us. After all without this great fan base can the brand exist ? As fans, let's raise some hell together. Let make the stubborn old dude take notice. We need to lobby and protest for change. Let's go Steelers nation.
Rooney won’t listen. That’s the whole point here. The only way to lobby and protest for change is to hit Rooney in his pocketbook. Stop attending games and stop buying merch. A drop in revenue will go along way but don’t hold your breath.
Fans need to revolt.stop going to games stop buying jerseys stop the support.only watch games on tv and all messages on social media should be fire mike Tomlin
Kieth Butler said in so many words when he was leaving that he had no control over the defense. The offense looks the same under new coordinators, and new QBs. Tomlin keeps coordinators around as “sacrificial lambs” to jettison and blame for his ineptitude. Why we won’t look for, or bring in a real OC or DC.
I have been a Steelers fan since the fourth grade after submitting an essay on Rocky Bleier. I am 62 years old now and sad to say that I will be moving on from the Steelers organization since it appears that Mike Tomlin is not. How can any Steelers fan expect positive change when Tomlin can’t, or won’t fix something as tangible as his way of managing “Red Flag Challenges”. He continues to show his stubborn side and doing things his way even when it can be so simply addressed. He continues to take the joy out of watching a floundering Steelers Team of today, leaving me no choice but to take my enthusiasm and financial support to a more successful and fun to watch National Football Team.
Art Rooney is a lawyer the most risk averse group on the planet. You will be waiting for a long time for a change to happen. I don't live in Pittsburgh, my suggestion to yinzers boycott the games, start wearing brown paper bags and if you do go to the games chant "fire Tomlin", where logic fails, humiliation might succeed.
A lot of people are oddly personally attached to tomlin, they take everything to heart when it comes to him. Saying he should be fired is extremely fair, as long as your criticism of him is constructive and not personal. I think it’s time for a change of scenery for both parties involved. Nothing wrong with admitting this era is over.
The problem is, any criticism he receives is immediately labeled as “racist” by his sycophants. That’s ridiculous. I’ve never met one person who has mentioned his race as a reason to fire him. No one cares. But that shuts down debate, as it’s intented. He should be and is judged by results, and his results are terrible.
We really don’t know how good Tomlin is. He doesn’t coach like his job is at stake, because it isn’t. He’s got tenure and he knows it. That’s also why he’ll never leave voluntarily.
One of my biggest annoyance is that people assume this franchise would go off a cliff like there wasn't good football in the 30+ seasons. prior to him being hired. Good football in Pittsburgh existed before Mike Tomlin and will exist after.
I’m not oddly attached like that but I have seen some people that are. Anyways I have defended him because it seemed like this rebuild was something different and finally this season was off to a somewhat great start.. He failed miserably and embarrassed the team. As a fan I’m done with tomlin not changing my mind again. He’s got to step down or get traded, if not then fire him. Losing 21-0 in the first half against the damn ravens at that and in the playoffs just shows we need some real change in this rebuild, he didn’t prepare the team enough to be hungry to win. He’s got to go.
A "players coach" is a euphemism for a coach who doesn't hold his players accountable. In midget football, my head coach got in our faces and yelled when we didn't do what we were supposed to do, very similar to Cowher. I keep hearing about Sutton calling his own blitzes, continue to see Pickens quit on plays. Can you imagine that behavior under most coaches? Under Cowher? When I was younger, I used to wonder why the Steelers didn't pay some fan-favorite players and let them walk. It became obvious when they moved on, they were no longer elite in most cases. I trusted when someone left the team that it was the right call. It's why, even in some of the bleaker years, I knew it wouldn't last because that's not how Pittsburgh does football. Now, it's very obvious being above .500 is good enough, the mediocre standard is the standard for Tomlin and Rooney. It's not for me, and I won't be back until excellence is the standard.
As long as tickets are selling, they will never get rid of Tomlin and his "no losing seasons". I will never buy another ticket to a Steelers game as long as Tomlin is head coach. I have 50+ years of unwavering - DIEHARD support for the Steelers, and that's coming to an end. 20+ years of going to a few games each season. But, ticket prices are higher and this time is not worth it! I'm so sick of this leadership not caring about the state of this team or the fans.
My family has been Steeler season ticket holders since the ‘60s. My older sister now has those tickets (actually her son pays for them). I attended games in the ‘60s ( aka *Same Old Steelers*), the glorious ‘70s, the ‘80s when I quit attending (I had other priorities), up to today (where I only watch game highlights on RUclips). We are back to the *Same Old Steelers*. I actually watched 1/2 of the first quarter on Saturday, but I couldn’t watch after that 90 yard Ravens drive. I NEVER tuned out a game! But here we are. It’s sad.
That's a great idea if it would work. Unfortunately for every 10 fans that's refused to buy tickets, 10 others that don't care about how proud this franchise once was under Dan Rooney, Bill Cowher and Chuck Noll would just snatch them up.
They don't care about the fan base. Fans want a Super Bowl celebration yet Tomlin doesn't care about that. He just cares about his winning record. 10 - 8 is mediocre considering they lost 5 games in a row at the end of the season.
I remember back then mocking the Bengals for their Playoff win drought...sigh. This is much worse than the Bengals, 6 playoff losses in a row an NFL record with Steelers D allowing 28+ points in all of those games which is also an NFL record...
I love this city and these three teams. But when one or two were down, we relied on at least one of them to keep us up. We have now arrived at a place where it seems that we're witnessing the same product and the same results at the same time and it's disheartening.
Tomlin hated Rudolph. They ran Pickett out. Both of those overpriced losers see their careers almost over, and both have nothing to show for it in terms of postseason success. They figured there was no way they wanted to watch Kenny struggle again, so instead of calling out the coaching staff and lack of player development, they tossed him under the bus and rolled the dice with Russ bringing them playoff success. How’d that work out? Maybe it WASN’T Pickett. Maybe he was drafted into a horrific situation and was left to flounder. I hope the Eagles win the SB and Pickett sends every Steeler a picture of him holding the Lombardi in one hand wearing his ring.
@@g.warren7921 Cam and TJ losers?? WOW!! Listen; it's ok to be upset with the theme here and I think everyone can agree that Tomlin is a shit show that needs to move on. But ; both those guys are class acts!!I believe Tomlin had his own agenda regarding Mason and KP. I won't get into KP cause there really is no point to discuss. Tomlin likes his 36 year olds and is more worried about non losing seasons than actually developing a kid. Look at the Broncos; beginning of the year there rookie looked like dog crap. Looks like they had a plan no??
@@g.warren7921 They wasted Mason and they ruined Pickett. Mason was more valuable as a Steeler. He waited patiently, knew the players and organization. When he finally got his chance last year, he was ready. Was he a franchise QB? Don’t know, but the offense played like a unit the last 3 games of last season. They lost to Buffalo but without TJ. Remember 4Q Kenny? I do. It seems like he was under strict rules to avoid turnovers. He played afraid. However, when we were down and they let him play, he did. They learned nothing and he regressed his 2nd season under the “tutelage” of Canada. Was Kenny a franchise QB? Don’t know, but he was not developed here. They relied so long on Ben, they didn’t know how. It’s still a problem.
Picket did not want to compete with Wilson so he wanted to be traded.We were told that Kenny learned from his mistakes.He even said that he learned nothing from Mason Rudolph.We know Tomlin does not know how to evaluate quarterbacks. He had no idea Mason could play like that.When Mason came in for Kenny he played very good.The Buffalo playoff game an atrocious weather situation that you could not deem much from.Mason for the Titans coming in for their starting QB could you tell much from that team except that they were just bad and Mason did not look very good iirc.If you asked Art Rooney if a lawyer lost 8 big cases in a span of 9 years would he still be around?He would say probably not I would think.I have no idea how a law firm handles that though lol.Tomlin is one playoff one and done from the guy who had great regular seasons and was the king of one and done Marty Schottenheimer.That is awful.
What a brutal season for Steelers fans. I usually go to a few games a year... Next year I might just sit it out depending on what they do in the off-season. I'm now firmly in the fire Tomlin camp. I just don't see them making the deep and necessary changes required to get out of this now decade of catastrophic collapses. Beyond that, aside from Pickens, it's like the players are just there to collect a paycheck. No fire. No passion. They lose before the game even starts. The standard has become substandard.
Given what you've shared DK, next year may be the first time since 1969 that I don't root for the Steelers. I'm tired of it consuming my time and energy when no significant change is in sight. How disappointing that Art Rooney would tarnish the legacy of his family and the Steelers by overlooking the real problems.
Appreciate the unfiltered information, DK. When you mentioned that Canada was tough as nails and Tomlin didn't have to deal with offense it made me think of possibility that Art is doing same with Mike. Meaning Art doesn't have to deal with team issues as long as Mike is there which leads to Mike not leaving anytime soon.
I hope they go 0-17 next year. I already can't face my family and friends due to complete and total embarrassment. At this point, I hate Mike Tomlin and I want his legacy completely and utterly destroyed. These people that run these franchises have a responsibility to us as fans. We go out and support, wear gear, talk about our favorite team! Then we get slapped in the face by ownership. As a customer, if this is how I'm going to be treated...I'm gone. You served me one too many bad meals. Thank God I didn't raise my kid to watch pro sports.
Can never lose my Fandom for the city I was born and raised in. I was there in the 70s. It was a glorious time not only for the Steelers but the Pirates and Panthers as well. Having said that even I can see the game has changed. Leaning for the Offense so much more than then. We'll eventually figure it out. Just hope I'm still alive to see it😂
Steelers playoff wins since 2011: 2011: - 2012: - 2013: - 2014: - 2015: @ Bengals (A.J. McCarron starting QB) 2016: vs. Dolphins (QB Matt Moore) @ Chiefs (QB Alex Smith) 2017: - 2018: - 2019: - 2020: - 2021: - 2022: - 2023: - 2024: - That includes Ben in his prime years with Antonio Brown and Lev Bell by the way.
I used to think we Browns fans were masters of innovating ways to suffer as football fans. But I have to give credit to Pittsburgh, as they figured out how to live in true Purgatory. 14 of those 18 non-losing seasons were without a playoff win, so while you've had no losing seasons, all that winning has devolved into being absolutely pointless. At least when we lose, we can see a rebound back into relevance. Yinz have made relevance absolutely meaningless.
There's a reason why Sports Media is so invested in the "success" of Tomlin being the head coach of the Steelers, none of which is good. The NFL has slowly turned into a woke culture. "End Racism" in the end zone...seriously. All of this ties together whether you want to believe it or not. Roger Goodell is the worst thing to happen for the NFL, but he was brought in to carry out an agenda. ✌🏾
You gained a subscriber. First person I’ve heard say what a lot of us are thinking. Tomlin is the main problem and the source of this main problem is Art Rooney.
Art Rooney is proving how small and weak he is. He inherited a pro football team due to his lineage and learned nothing about leadership along the way.
Hire Harrison as LB coach, value and implement his input in the defense, and put him up in the box during games for real time input. Groom him to be a DC. He definitely has potential. Hsi heart is for the city, this team, and the Roonys
The only possibility Tomlin gets run out of town is if the fans go all out fire Tomlin like they did with Matt Canada. Meaning at Pens games, ESPN College Gameday...... There has to be a point where he can't ignore the fans anymore. You would think the last home game when half the fans left the building by the middle of the 3rd quarter that Mr. Rooney would have gotten the hint!!! SMH
Gm DK im disappointed here someone should have been accountable for this loss coaches even sorry to say Tomlin this is serious i feel bad for TJ and Cam
Tough to feel sorry for TJ and Cam. When they publicly slobber all over Mediocre Mike and declare they would not want to play for anyone else, they reinforce Art’s stance and Tomlin’s thought process. They are a massive part of the problem.
The sad part is, those of us who called this shit out YEARS ago and were obviously right, we were and still are called all sorts of horrible things. We will never hear an apology or an admittance that we were right.
The rooneys will never get rid of tomlin. Because they are afraid they'll get backlash. Because their own rule. It sucks being a steelers fan anymore. Because we all know the outcome of the season. IF we make it to the playoffs on our own skills. We know it'll be 1 and done.
DK how, how does it feel to know that your analysis is spot on but nobody in a position to do anything about it ignores not just you but everyone close to the situation….Pirates, Penguins, and now the Steelers have scummed to profit over achievement…..
It honestly seems that Art Rooney cares more about what the image of firing Tomlin would look like. That it might show weakness within the organization or instability. It seems like thats all he cares about and not the product on the field. But when you have national media people and even the guys who were calling the game calling your team out for looking like they dont care or are unprepared and that they are just submitting while they are being bullied, THAT shows more weakness and instability in an organization than firing the damn coach that should have been gone 3 years ago.
I’ve stopped. I know a lot of people who have. It’s possible. I have not purchased Steeler gear in over 3 years and I didn’t watch a snap this season until Saturday. It’s not hard. Tomlin has made me not care.
My brother and I were talking yesterday, (we’ve been fans for years and grew up in the burgh. Every off-season, we get excited to talk about the prospects of the free agent signings and draft etc) he told me he’s not certain what his excitement level will be for the off-season, much less his interest. Because to your point DK nothing‘s gonna change anyway.
Getting a better understanding of what my grandfather's generation suffered through in the decades before Dan Rooney and Chuck Noll. Maybe empty seats will get the Artful Dodgers' attention.
Tomlin actually said that he proudly carries the One & Done baggage. WTH. No Zay Flowers even. Defense Ran over for 300 yards rushing in a Playoff game!
Rooney already handed Tomlin a new contract last season. He sees the 10-7 record and think there's nothing to change. Acrisure is going to be a nasty and unfriendly place in 2025.
I’m not going to say “I’m giving up on this team and am never going to follow or watch them again.” However, this organization’s continued stubbornness, reliance on past accomplishments, delusions of grandeur, and blind acceptance of mediocrity have legitimately lessened my overall interest and emotional investment over the few seasons.
Thank you DK, I agree and I've never seen such a collapse on different levels. People do become uninterested in this type of game playing and coaching ,and just find other things to do. The standard does not feel like the standard now. Always glad to hear from you DK.
What's really sad is... We had a team that could possibly compete if only every play call wasn't go deep or run laterally.. The success rate of HB pass plays was phenomenal.
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I love when DK has had enough. He's normally such a friendly uncle type guy. Then when enough is enough, he turns into a junk yard dog and goes hard!
If the Steelers put up a fight and lost he would probably be OK. But that loss was embarrassing, somebody needs to tell the truth.
The media consensus is that Tomlin would be hired quickly somewhere else if the Steelers fired him. That’s great! Can we play that team first in the playoffs?
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Truth 💯
THAT! Was BRILLIANT.😂
That’s such a toothless statement for people/media to make as well. There are probably 10 coaches in the league who you could say the same thing about. If Tomlin was fired, the Steelers would have plenty of qualified candidates interested in taking over his job; it goes both ways.
maybe at the college level but I doubt an NFL team would especially as he make 10 million a year
Dan Rooney lived and breathed football. Art Rooney is a businessman who cares more about profits than any on field success. Its painfully obvious at this point. No playoff wins since he took over. RIP Dan, the steelers way died with you.
@@knowledgeseeker1528 preach brother preach
Absolutely.
Art has playoff wins under him he took over in the late 00s with Mr Dan Rooney was being the Ireland ambassador
Amen
To be fair they both were about profits or they wouldn’t be where they are. It is hard to win a world title. We act like we are a lock every season to win. The reality is we have find a great quarterback. When we had Big Ben he was the reason we won or lost not the coach. Ben won with both coaches. We need the players to win. We could have had bill belicheck and we would have lost that game . We don’t have the talent. We need to add some pieces . We don’t need to clean house and start from scratch. When ever we are winning games you guys say “ tomlin is the best” when they lose they should fire him and send him packing out of town!😂 get a grip with your emotions. Question if you make a mistake a work should your employer fire you right away or give you some respect that you earned because you have been there for 18+ years and never had a losing season. The reality is Mike T is going to be hard to fire. He will need another bad season for that to happen.
299 to 29 rushing yards, Art. Your father and grandfather would be very disappointed and embarrassed.
Against the RAVENS. In the Playoffs. It is a taint we will bear forever.
Steelers losing 21-0 in the first half is unbelievable. Truly what an embarrassment it feels to be a fan.
Yeah the fact that this was against the ravens and they didn’t even have their WR1. What an embarrassment
VERY DISAPPOINTED! I’m starting to worry if he’s a real Rooney
Thank the wide 9 , that is the dumbest most uncreative front of all time
There is no point in watching them until there is a change.
I didn’t watch a snap this season until the playoff game.
Didn’t miss it at all.
The only reason I watched the game Saturday is because of friends. Otherwise, I would have found something else to do.
Apathy has set in.
@@g.warren7921😂😂
I'm about 5 seasons ahead of you
Won't be back until Tomlin is gone
I’m done!!!! Let’s go Lions!!
People say that when going through a divorce, if people are angry and snapping at each other, they still care.... at this point, I've reached indifference.
Yup apathy, we're all reaching that point. I've been there since 2017. That loss to the Jags and Blake Bortles broke my spirit. I haven't yelled or gotten mad at a loss since. Now I just laugh and go on with my day.
@knowledgeseeker1528 I'm actually the same i cried after that game 🤣 last time i showed emotion during a game
Don't go to games next year when he see empty seats it will hit him then
Same.
@@yeahspring36 this is a terrific analogy. When you stop fighting with the other person, you’ve given up and made your peace that it’s done. I feel the same about the Steelers. Pretty much makes me not want to watch. In fact, in recent years since our first (and only) child was born, I miss around 5 or 6 games per year because of “stuff.” When I was younger, that would never happen. I don’t care where I was or what was planned I’d have the game on somewhere and in some form. Now, it just feels not that important. I don’t think things will change and it sounds like the Rooneys are happy to just keep running it back year after year.
It's going to start getting REALLY embarrassing for Tomlin. Every year he is eating away at his legacy. In fact, this is what he will be remembered for, even more than the SB's. Think about that for a second. He has overstayed his welcome with Steeler fans for so long, that the SB appearances mean less than the playoff losses do. Never mind the Steelers, The Rooneys and Tomlin need to realize it's the best thing for Tomlin. It's a bad move for him to stay. A SB winning coach (with never a losing record ) is becoming a total joke, with memes and videos and massive public ridicule. He may or may not really care at all (I actually think he does) , but it's 100% true.
Noll needed to leave, Belichick needed to leave. For god sakes Mike, leave!!! With your contract clause, you can do it on your own terms too.
He never had a legacy only fake fans with no football knowledge think he a good coach he landed in a well built team and ran the team to the ground. Anyone could of accomplished what he did I said 10 years ago he should been fired
100%. Great comment.
What legacy ? Won a Superbowl with players draft and grom by other coach his haven't had a loser season is totally crap he ain't got no coaches of his going to other teams he's a joke and Rooney ain't the right owner either he suck am not watching Steelers or buy Steelers crap until Tomlin is out .
We are currently in the early 80s of the Noll era. Good enough to make the playoffs, but that's it. We already know what followed after that. And this owner is content with letting that play out in its entirety.
No Zay Flowers, No Defensive adjustments during the game, No intensity.
If you keep supporting the team financially, nothing will change.
It’s that simple
Why do Pirates fans not understand this?
Exactly
Nice to see Art's loyalty is to his failure coach instead of the city and the fans that have supported, and made his family the unofficial royal family of Pittsburgh. Thanks Art.
All that money he gets from the city and the fans, but it’s clear his top priority is protecting Mike Tomlin at all costs.
@@seanlynskey9235 The fans have to go on a "Steeler diet" for a year or two to give Rooney the message........then, change would occur.
He needs to feel it in the pocketbook....
@@kenisheretosay9656I agree but if we can’t punish Nutting into selling there’s no chance enough people stop watching Steelers football
He fail for 17 seasons same with any coach that doesn't win the superbowl
Get a new team and stop whining.
Tomlin’s post game press conference was the best indication for how bad things have gotten. Tomlin just seemed relatively content after getting blown out by his rival in the playoffs. He knows he’s not going anywhere until he’s good and ready.
The owners only care about the money.
Exactly. The noise for Tomlin to leave now is more deafening than any coach I can think of, even Marvin Lewis.
My only hope is that Tomlin gets an amazing offer from another team, and leaves on his own terms, thus saving his ego.
The football Nutting
@@dr.scanlan6112 NE fans made it clear they wanted Mayo out and Vrabel in. They got their wish. Fortunately Vrabel wanted in. We don’t have a Vrabel, but we can’t keep doing the same thing over and over.
It's so sad what our beloved Steelers have devolved into.
So very sad.
It would not have been like this if Dan Rooney was still alive
There's maybe 3 games this season where our boys looked like a playoff team. Squeaking by with a last second field goal isn't playoff football
So from 1980-2005 was they your beloved Steelers
Rest in Peace Dan Rooney
I am so disappointed in Art 🤦🏾♂️😞
As my Dad would say, the owner is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. After this decision I'm done with the Steelers. MT should have been gone 3 years ago. I don't follow the Pirates now add the Steelers to that. All I have left are the Pens and that doesn't look good either. 😟
Fellow Steeler fans!!! Please stop going to the games, cancel your season tickets, stop buying the Merchandise and shut off the games. Boycott the Steelers until the Rooney’s get the message we have all had enough of Tomlin and the regime! Now I realize that sadly most of you will ignore this message and that will be to your detriment because next year will be a repeat of this season. If you are happy with that then enjoy the abuse! At this point Art Rooney is abusing you! Please WAKE UP!!
I did that 10 years ago this dude always been a fraud and I’m not gonna lose sleep over a team
My thoughts exactly.
that does absolutely nothing
This is our team. We’re where the money comes from. Fire Tomlin chants next season is the way.
Maybe some ex players need to have a meeting with Art ?
Mike should have said one sentence at podium Saturday night “that’s why I’m extremely well compensated “
He should have said “I am stepping down as the HC of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Tomlin's 1st Ring - thank Dungy. Tomlin's 2nd Ring - thank Cowher. Look at the past 16 years. He has done absolutely nothing with so much.
Tomlin is a cheerleader and surrogate father for many of his players. He’s not a football coach who knows x’s and o’s.
He’s got those non losing seasons…☹️
I don’t get it? Tomlin only has one ring
@johnnolaniii652 he means when tomlin was a DB coach with the bucs when gruden won I think
@@Spahr1970 in hindsight it’s obvious. Though I keep commenting (haha), I have lost my enthusiasm for this organization.
Steelers are the Pirates now.
💯💯💯
Not that bad but Rooney appears to be taking a page from Nutting
Pittsburgh sports are a nightmare lol
This time of year we always look slow, unprepared and clearly we dont belong on the same field as these elite teams. Something major has to change
There should have been Fire Tomlin chants at the last Bengals game. Worked for Canada
That’s what needs to happen this season. Every game. All year. The Rooney’s need to be pressured into firing Tomlin.
I don’t think Canada would have been fired without those chants and the national attention they received.
Time to make it happen for Coach Teflon.
@@g.warren7921 Tomlin needs to go..so we can move forward..
Next Season
The more effective response is to stop attending. As long as the seats are filled you'll probably keep getting the same result.
@@joes295agreed. I really feel like they play in the fans face and tell themselves the suckers will keep coming back so let em complain.
Well we did learn this season that Tomlin is well compensated 🤣.
He's been there for 18 years. Duhhhh
@@FreethinkingPharoahHe’s referring to what Tomlin said after the media asked him why he switched QBs.
Pride comes before a Fall:))
Remeber when Ben was acting like a fool crashing motorcycles and Dan Rooney said cut the shit or youre out. To be a steeler is a privlage... I wish we still had that.
While we have beennin purgatory Washington changed their name TWICE, yeeted the useless owner, hit a slam dunk in the draft because of lol losing season and already got a playoff win and are set with Daniels looking like a stud.
Meanwhile we are the just above .500 club doing nothing
Some other franchises who have rebuilt from laughing stocks to playoff wins / SB contenders: lions, commanders, Texans. All jokes of franchises a few years ago and could only get a few wins a year, now look at them, far greater than the Steelers. Even bengals and jags and browns have won playoff games recently
Wake me when its the 2026 season.
Art II doesn’t care about football, he’s just here to keep collecting money. I miss Dan 😩
Maybe the fire Tomlin chants will happen
I was shouting it in 2023 against Arizona.
The only way we get Rodney's attention to make a move is if ticket sales decline as well as sponsorships. That will never happen, thus the cycle will continue.
One would have to be a fool to spend money on this product
100 on that!
NOTHING will change. Tomlin will be forced into retirement by Art II after he loses a '27 road wildcard game by 31 points. The last play will be a jump ball to Cal Austin.
You kidding?
They'll extend him, just like they did after BUF.
@@GageRyanVideo exactly
When loyalty is more important than job performance...
Rooney just can’t admit he made a mistake extending Tomlin’s contract.
Exactly!
Wonderful show again, DK. Thanks for voicing your opinions, which closely align with how so many of us feel right now. It feels so helpless to be a fan right now. Nothing changes, and it's just the same thing over and over and over and over (you get the idea). I'd love to be a fly on the wall in a meeting room with Art and Tomlin. I just wonder how they deal with each other. How does their dialogue unfold? Tomlin has a dominant personality, and Art seems like a timid businessman who is not close to his father's legacy. I feel like the Rooney family is really out of touch with how fans feel and what the city wants. The fire/trade Tomlin train has never had more passengers. It's wild right now. I've never seen this kind of momentum. It's so disheartening to read that nothing will change and they're just running it all back.
Rooney and Tomlin will get into a tickle fight and giggle like school girls when they meet.
There HAS to be a reason this continues.
Art Rooney has allowed Mike Tomlin to destroy the Steelers !!!!
We are the biggest and most dedicated fan base in the country. That should stand for something. As fans can we call Rooney out? Will he listen to us. After all without this great fan base can the brand exist ? As fans, let's raise some hell together. Let make the stubborn old dude take notice. We need to lobby and protest for change. Let's go Steelers nation.
Rooney won’t listen. That’s the whole point here. The only way to lobby and protest for change is to hit Rooney in his pocketbook. Stop attending games and stop buying merch. A drop in revenue will go along way but don’t hold your breath.
Fans need to revolt.stop going to games stop buying jerseys stop the support.only watch games on tv and all messages on social media should be fire mike Tomlin
This team has been on the downward trend ever since the Tebow Debacle !
Kieth Butler said in so many words when he was leaving that he had no control over the defense. The offense looks the same under new coordinators, and new QBs. Tomlin keeps coordinators around as “sacrificial lambs” to jettison and blame for his ineptitude. Why we won’t look for, or bring in a real OC or DC.
Fall guys to throw over board 😂
I have been a Steelers fan since the fourth grade after submitting an essay on Rocky Bleier. I am 62 years old now and sad to say that I will be moving on from the Steelers organization since it appears that Mike Tomlin is not. How can any Steelers fan expect positive change when Tomlin can’t, or won’t fix something as tangible as his way of managing “Red Flag Challenges”. He continues to show his stubborn side and doing things his way even when it can be so simply addressed. He continues to take the joy out of watching a floundering Steelers Team of today, leaving me no choice but to take my enthusiasm and financial support to a more successful and fun to watch National Football Team.
Art Rooney is a lawyer the most risk averse group on the planet. You will be waiting for a long time for a change to happen. I don't live in Pittsburgh, my suggestion to yinzers boycott the games, start wearing brown paper bags and if you do go to the games chant "fire Tomlin", where logic fails, humiliation might succeed.
A lot of people are oddly personally attached to tomlin, they take everything to heart when it comes to him. Saying he should be fired is extremely fair, as long as your criticism of him is constructive and not personal. I think it’s time for a change of scenery for both parties involved. Nothing wrong with admitting this era is over.
The problem is, any criticism he receives is immediately labeled as “racist” by his sycophants. That’s ridiculous. I’ve never met one person who has mentioned his race as a reason to fire him. No one cares. But that shuts down debate, as it’s intented. He should be and is judged by results, and his results are terrible.
We really don’t know how good Tomlin is. He doesn’t coach like his job is at stake, because it isn’t. He’s got tenure and he knows it. That’s also why he’ll never leave voluntarily.
One of my biggest annoyance is that people assume this franchise would go off a cliff like there wasn't good football in the 30+ seasons. prior to him being hired. Good football in Pittsburgh existed before Mike Tomlin and will exist after.
I’m not oddly attached like that but I have seen some people that are. Anyways I have defended him because it seemed like this rebuild was something different and finally this season was off to a somewhat great start.. He failed miserably and embarrassed the team. As a fan I’m done with tomlin not changing my mind again. He’s got to step down or get traded, if not then fire him. Losing 21-0 in the first half against the damn ravens at that and in the playoffs just shows we need some real change in this rebuild, he didn’t prepare the team enough to be hungry to win. He’s got to go.
Dan Rooney is rolling over in his grave right now. Well done, Art.
Well said.
As long as fans keep packing the stadium he won’t change. Hitting is wallet is when he’ll change.
I live for these daily shots rn. Great way to start the day. Ty dk!!!
A "players coach" is a euphemism for a coach who doesn't hold his players accountable. In midget football, my head coach got in our faces and yelled when we didn't do what we were supposed to do, very similar to Cowher. I keep hearing about Sutton calling his own blitzes, continue to see Pickens quit on plays. Can you imagine that behavior under most coaches? Under Cowher?
When I was younger, I used to wonder why the Steelers didn't pay some fan-favorite players and let them walk. It became obvious when they moved on, they were no longer elite in most cases. I trusted when someone left the team that it was the right call. It's why, even in some of the bleaker years, I knew it wouldn't last because that's not how Pittsburgh does football. Now, it's very obvious being above .500 is good enough, the mediocre standard is the standard for Tomlin and Rooney. It's not for me, and I won't be back until excellence is the standard.
As long as tickets are selling, they will never get rid of Tomlin and his "no losing seasons". I will never buy another ticket to a Steelers game as long as Tomlin is head coach. I have 50+ years of unwavering - DIEHARD support for the Steelers, and that's coming to an end. 20+ years of going to a few games each season. But, ticket prices are higher and this time is not worth it! I'm so sick of this leadership not caring about the state of this team or the fans.
My family has been Steeler season ticket holders since the ‘60s. My older sister now has those tickets (actually her son pays for them). I attended games in the ‘60s ( aka *Same Old Steelers*), the glorious ‘70s, the ‘80s when I quit attending (I had other priorities), up to today (where I only watch game highlights on RUclips). We are back to the *Same Old Steelers*. I actually watched 1/2 of the first quarter on Saturday, but I couldn’t watch after that 90 yard Ravens drive. I NEVER tuned out a game! But here we are. It’s sad.
If people stopped going to the game and they stopped making money, maybe they listen
That's a great idea if it would work. Unfortunately for every 10 fans that's refused to buy tickets, 10 others that don't care about how proud this franchise once was under Dan Rooney, Bill Cowher and Chuck Noll would just snatch them up.
Mike Tomlin is Marvin Lewis with a better personality. Even the Bengals figured out that a change was necessary, yet here we are...
Fan for 55 years! Let me know when we have a new coach.
Will do
They don't care about the fan base. Fans want a Super Bowl celebration yet Tomlin doesn't care about that. He just cares about his winning record. 10 - 8 is mediocre considering they lost 5 games in a row at the end of the season.
I remember back then mocking the Bengals for their Playoff win drought...sigh. This is much worse than the Bengals, 6 playoff losses in a row an NFL record with Steelers D allowing 28+ points in all of those games which is also an NFL record...
That’s enough to be fired, not counting all other reasons.
I feel like he’s just sticking with Tomlin because he doesn’t want to admit he has been wrong to keep him so long.
I love this city and these three teams. But when one or two were down, we relied on at least one of them to keep us up. We have now arrived at a place where it seems that we're witnessing the same product and the same results at the same time and it's disheartening.
When TJ and Cam teamed up to bring Russ in and run Mason out of town the fate of the season was sealed.
Tomlin hated Rudolph.
They ran Pickett out.
Both of those overpriced losers see their careers almost over, and both have nothing to show for it in terms of postseason success. They figured there was no way they wanted to watch Kenny struggle again, so instead of calling out the coaching staff and lack of player development, they tossed him under the bus and rolled the dice with Russ bringing them playoff success. How’d that work out? Maybe it WASN’T Pickett. Maybe he was drafted into a horrific situation and was left to flounder.
I hope the Eagles win the SB and Pickett sends every Steeler a picture of him holding the Lombardi in one hand wearing his ring.
@@g.warren7921 Cam and TJ losers?? WOW!! Listen; it's ok to be upset with the theme here and I think everyone can agree that Tomlin is a shit show that needs to move on. But ; both those guys are class acts!!I believe Tomlin had his own agenda regarding Mason and KP. I won't get into KP cause there really is no point to discuss. Tomlin likes his 36 year olds and is more worried about non losing seasons than actually developing a kid. Look at the Broncos; beginning of the year there rookie looked like dog crap. Looks like they had a plan no??
@@Vecc-tq3fb He didn’t call them losers, but if your 2 defensive stars are recruiting QBs, it is a problem.
@@g.warren7921 They wasted Mason and they ruined Pickett. Mason was more valuable as a Steeler. He waited patiently, knew the players and organization. When he finally got his chance last year, he was ready. Was he a franchise QB? Don’t know, but the offense played like a unit the last 3 games of last season. They lost to Buffalo but without TJ. Remember 4Q Kenny? I do. It seems like he was under strict rules to avoid turnovers. He played afraid. However, when we were down and they let him play, he did. They learned nothing and he regressed his 2nd season under the “tutelage” of Canada. Was Kenny a franchise QB? Don’t know, but he was not developed here. They relied so long on Ben, they didn’t know how. It’s still a problem.
Picket did not want to compete with Wilson so he wanted to be traded.We were told that Kenny learned from his mistakes.He even said that he learned nothing from Mason Rudolph.We know Tomlin does not know how to evaluate quarterbacks. He had no idea Mason could play like that.When Mason came in for Kenny he played very good.The Buffalo playoff game an atrocious weather situation that you could not deem much from.Mason for the Titans coming in for their starting QB could you tell much from that team except that they were just bad and Mason did not look very good iirc.If you asked Art Rooney if a lawyer lost 8 big cases in a span of 9 years would he still be around?He would say probably not I would think.I have no idea how a law firm handles that though lol.Tomlin is one playoff one and done from the guy who had great regular seasons and was the king of one and done Marty Schottenheimer.That is awful.
What a brutal season for Steelers fans. I usually go to a few games a year... Next year I might just sit it out depending on what they do in the off-season. I'm now firmly in the fire Tomlin camp. I just don't see them making the deep and necessary changes required to get out of this now decade of catastrophic collapses. Beyond that, aside from Pickens, it's like the players are just there to collect a paycheck. No fire. No passion. They lose before the game even starts. The standard has become substandard.
Just sit out bro. I’m not one to tell you what to do but I’ll give advice, it’s not worth it until tomlin is gone.
Given what you've shared DK, next year may be the first time since 1969 that I don't root for the Steelers. I'm tired of it consuming my time and energy when no significant change is in sight. How disappointing that Art Rooney would tarnish the legacy of his family and the Steelers by overlooking the real problems.
Shame
We need billboards all around the stadium that say Fire Tomlin or Sell the Team
Appreciate the unfiltered information, DK. When you mentioned that Canada was tough as nails and Tomlin didn't have to deal with offense it made me think of possibility that Art is doing same with Mike. Meaning Art doesn't have to deal with team issues as long as Mike is there which leads to Mike not leaving anytime soon.
Love your show DK u always do a great job, but l'm out until Tomlin is gone✌🏾👊🏾
I hope they go 0-17 next year. I already can't face my family and friends due to complete and total embarrassment. At this point, I hate Mike Tomlin and I want his legacy completely and utterly destroyed. These people that run these franchises have a responsibility to us as fans. We go out and support, wear gear, talk about our favorite team! Then we get slapped in the face by ownership. As a customer, if this is how I'm going to be treated...I'm gone. You served me one too many bad meals. Thank God I didn't raise my kid to watch pro sports.
Can never lose my Fandom for the city I was born and raised in. I was there in the 70s. It was a glorious time not only for the Steelers but the Pirates and Panthers as well. Having said that even I can see the game has changed. Leaning for the Offense so much more than then. We'll eventually figure it out. Just hope I'm still alive to see it😂
I’m already watching the Eagles 🦅 the other Pennsylvania team! I won’t spend a dime to go to camp again a game or watch until Tomlin gone
Steelers playoff wins since 2011:
2011: -
2012: -
2013: -
2014: -
2015: @ Bengals (A.J. McCarron starting QB)
2016: vs. Dolphins (QB Matt Moore)
@ Chiefs (QB Alex Smith)
2017: -
2018: -
2019: -
2020: -
2021: -
2022: -
2023: -
2024: -
That includes Ben in his prime years with Antonio Brown and Lev Bell by the way.
I watched the Commanders play the Bucs, and what close entertaining and competitive game it was…😔
I used to think we Browns fans were masters of innovating ways to suffer as football fans. But I have to give credit to Pittsburgh, as they figured out how to live in true Purgatory. 14 of those 18 non-losing seasons were without a playoff win, so while you've had no losing seasons, all that winning has devolved into being absolutely pointless. At least when we lose, we can see a rebound back into relevance. Yinz have made relevance absolutely meaningless.
Don’t be surprised if Tomlin gets traded. If you fire him, you lose the value, but he could bring in a trade.
Tomlin has a no trade clause in his contract. Why would he waive that clause?
There's a reason why Sports Media is so invested in the "success" of Tomlin being the head coach of the Steelers, none of which is good. The NFL has slowly turned into a woke culture. "End Racism" in the end zone...seriously. All of this ties together whether you want to believe it or not. Roger Goodell is the worst thing to happen for the NFL, but he was brought in to carry out an agenda. ✌🏾
Let those ticket sales start dropping and maybe it’ll force Rooney to grow a pair and make the necessary changes need(fire coach t)
Mike Tomlin has become a Brand in the NFL. Mike Tomlin is the biggest star of the Steelers. Mike Tomlin is the diva!!
Cool. I got no problems not watching the Steelers until they change.
DK thanks for shining a light on the issue
Please keep it up
You gained a subscriber. First person I’ve heard say what a lot of us are thinking. Tomlin is the main problem and the source of this main problem is Art Rooney.
"Canada couldn't script his way out of a coloring book"
One of the best lines I've ever heard. I might have to steal that one, DK 😆😆
This is one of the reasons why , we are stuck in football purgatory .
Art Rooney is proving how small and weak he is. He inherited a pro football team due to his lineage and learned nothing about leadership along the way.
Ownership change is do!!!
A spicy headline
The future of Pittsburgh sports is looking very bleak
Fantastic show. Subscribed!
Just started following you. Thanks for the interesting insight. Makes enormous sense.
Art Rooney however nice he may be, is a coward. I agree with the sentiment, he's intimidated and afraid of Mike Tomlin.
Hire Harrison as LB coach, value and implement his input in the defense, and put him up in the box during games for real time input. Groom him to be a DC. He definitely has potential. Hsi heart is for the city, this team, and the Roonys
The only possibility Tomlin gets run out of town is if the fans go all out fire Tomlin like they did with Matt Canada. Meaning at Pens games, ESPN College Gameday...... There has to be a point where he can't ignore the fans anymore. You would think the last home game when half the fans left the building by the middle of the 3rd quarter that Mr. Rooney would have gotten the hint!!! SMH
Agreed
lol they did him so dirty. Mans was getting Boo'ed walking out his front door🤣. Couldnt show his face no where in Pittsburg that whole season
If he doesn’t want to make changes with Tomlin….SELL the ream
Gm DK im disappointed here someone should have been accountable for this loss coaches even sorry to say Tomlin this is serious i feel bad for TJ and Cam
They both support Tomlin 100%, so it is their own fault as well.
Tough to feel sorry for TJ and Cam. When they publicly slobber all over Mediocre Mike and declare they would not want to play for anyone else, they reinforce Art’s stance and Tomlin’s thought process.
They are a massive part of the problem.
If the owner won't do anything, it seems like it's left up to the fanbase to make Mike Tomlin's life in Pittsburgh so miserable that he resigns.
The sad part is, those of us who called this shit out YEARS ago and were obviously right, we were and still are called all sorts of horrible things. We will never hear an apology or an admittance that we were right.
Most important thing is that Russ is gone. He should never be allowed to wear the black and yellow again.
Am I optimistic about next season?
"NAH"
The rooneys will never get rid of tomlin. Because they are afraid they'll get backlash. Because their own rule. It sucks being a steelers fan anymore. Because we all know the outcome of the season. IF we make it to the playoffs on our own skills. We know it'll be 1 and done.
DK how, how does it feel to know that your analysis is spot on but nobody in a position to do anything about it ignores not just you but everyone close to the situation….Pirates, Penguins, and now the Steelers have scummed to profit over achievement…..
It honestly seems that Art Rooney cares more about what the image of firing Tomlin would look like. That it might show weakness within the organization or instability. It seems like thats all he cares about and not the product on the field. But when you have national media people and even the guys who were calling the game calling your team out for looking like they dont care or are unprepared and that they are just submitting while they are being bullied, THAT shows more weakness and instability in an organization than firing the damn coach that should have been gone 3 years ago.
Art hasn't won a playoff since becoming owner of the Steelers. If he doesn't care, why should the fans keep giving him money?
The fans will keep giving money since they cannot stop. Same conversations about pirates every year. Stop going to the games but people keep going
I’ve stopped.
I know a lot of people who have. It’s possible. I have not purchased Steeler gear in over 3 years and I didn’t watch a snap this season until Saturday. It’s not hard.
Tomlin has made me not care.
that does absolutely nothing...
@scottgetty5547 when Art decides he cares about supplying a watchable product. I'll give a f**k about watching and spending my money.
My brother and I were talking yesterday, (we’ve been fans for years and grew up in the burgh. Every off-season, we get excited to talk about the prospects of the free agent signings and draft etc) he told me he’s not certain what his excitement level will be for the off-season, much less his interest. Because to your point DK nothing‘s gonna change anyway.
Getting a better understanding of what my grandfather's generation suffered through in the decades before Dan Rooney and Chuck Noll. Maybe empty seats will get the Artful Dodgers' attention.
Tomlin actually said that he proudly carries the One & Done baggage. WTH. No Zay Flowers even. Defense Ran over for 300 yards rushing in a Playoff game!
Rooney already handed Tomlin a new contract last season. He sees the 10-7 record and think there's nothing to change. Acrisure is going to be a nasty and unfriendly place in 2025.
The one point I would make: if you intend to trade Tomlin, you wouldn't telegraph intent to sack him
I’m not going to say “I’m giving up on this team and am never going to follow or watch them again.” However, this organization’s continued stubbornness, reliance on past accomplishments, delusions of grandeur, and blind acceptance of mediocrity have legitimately lessened my overall interest and emotional investment over the few seasons.
Thank you DK, I agree and I've never seen such a collapse on different levels. People do become uninterested in this type of game playing and coaching ,and just find other things to do. The standard does not feel like the standard now. Always glad to hear from you DK.
What's really sad is... We had a team that could possibly compete if only every play call wasn't go deep or run laterally.. The success rate of HB pass plays was phenomenal.