At this point it seems the only loyalty Tomlin has is to that 12 million a year. I've seen 2nd graders play with more Tenacity and heart than these guys coach or the guys play. IMHO Tomlin was never a talented coach, and now he just down right sucks.
You're loyal to your wife you're in the house with her you know her good and bad what if I say you need a new wife just based on what I see from the outside would you leave her that's basically what we as fans do we're not in the locker room
Steelers biggest issue is the OL. 3 Rookies. Steelers were suppose to be 4-13. People forget that! Tomlin is Fine. The only issue I have with Tomlin is not Starting Corey Trice Jr over Donte Jackson who solid in Zone but terrible in Man to Man. Corey Trice Jr and JPJ on the outside will allow Watt and HighSmith to regain their form!
The unfortunate thing about this situation is that I just can't get excited for the regular season anymore, what's the point? We can pile up the wins, drop 30 points a game, have the number 1 ranked this or that, but ultimately when it comes to December and January I'll be expecting a meltdown, and all the fun and games we had along the way will mean nothing - again! All hope appears to be quashed, and that's a sad place to be as a fanbase.
Thank you DK. It is very clear the coaches were out coached, five times in a row. I don't think words matter right now. It's time for change. I hope they are way more concerned and truthful up front more importantly to themselves as a team. Awesome show DK.
I've been a Steelers fan my whole life - close to 40 years. I've haven't always loved the franchise decisions, like coordinators, but I have always loved Tomlin. I had an interesting moment the other day when I saw that Mike Vrabel went to the Patriots, and I was bummed for a second. My first thought was, "Man, he would have been a good pickup for us." It made me realize that my confidence in Tomlin and the organization has dropped quite a bit.
I couldn't agree with you more. Mike Tomlin is the problem and I've said this for years and got so much flack for it. It's like no one is allowed to criticize him and I'm sick of it.
We can continue to be a losing team with Tomlin or take the chance and be a losing team OR maybe start winning again with someone new. I think Tomlin should have a little Integrity and resign. If he's the coach next year this fan of 50+ years won't be supporting. Let's do a coach Campbell turn around !!!
@hamiljohn It's been bad for 8 years, where have you been. Tomlin won a SB on the tails of Cowher and a Solid team. The progression of the team has been downhill for years. When someone isn't "producing" results you get rid of them not make excuses for them. I'm guessing you never owned or ran a business.
I'm done getting worked up about the Steelers and Tomlin. If Rooney isn't worked up enough to make change, then why should I get worked up? If the players aren't worked up enough to make change, then why should I get worked up? I used to dislike Pickens because of his disruptive bad attitude, but do you know what? I've come to realize, alot of his antics came out of frustration for not utilizing him correctly and because of the "same old same old" with the team going on! I actually like Pickens now, understand his frustration, and respect his honesty and competitiveness! This IS the Steelers for the next 2-3: years and that's the way it is. Who am I to tell Rooney how to run HIS team? I'm done. See you next season Steelers! Luv ya Black and Gold!
Pickens had this issues before he was even picked up on the draft. Tomlin gave him the opportunity when all other teams pass on him. He should be more grateful IMO. Tomlin is the rare coaches that knows how to deal with the Pickens, Browns, Holmes ... deevas attitude.
TJ will retire a Steeler. He’s the only one I truly believe that loves this team. I’d be shopping Fitzpatrick for sure. Cam will also finish his career out there.
Maybe if the Steelers focuses on an offense that can move the ball and score points, the defense wouldn’t be playing so much. Instead it’s quick three and out. Run run pass
I say no. Trade him, he's not a contributor vs better competition, nor is most of that overpriced defense. Ship them out and spend the money on offense. I think we have enough evidence to say the defense-centric approach has failed spectacularly.
Beanie Bishop was 2nd on the Steelers in int with 4 and he didnt get to play in the playoffs. Jackson had 5. Almost like they played well off eachother. Tomlin chose Sutton. Remember that.
@@3-4ZoneBlitz Because Tomlin sucks. He has no control of the players, the plays, the clock, time outs or challenges. He's a relic on the sidelines who looks like a deer in Headlights !
Tomlin is so backwards in every thing he does. Oh beanie doesn’t have the experience. Well how the hell is the young guys very going to get experience if he never plays them
Unfortunately Ive felt this way for about a decade now. I literally just tune in each year to root for a sub .500 season so we can finally stop celebrating mediocrity
@@Saibot79 He hated being exposed for having kept the only competent QB on the roster buried on the bench. Not sure what Mason did to deserve it, but boy did Tomlin ever have it out for him. Heck, we may have gotten better results if we had just gone with Mason this year, but Tomlin ran him off apparently.
Can't really be mad at Tomlin anymore. Rooney needs to be held accountable from the fans and local media to the point where he gets uncomfortable. You may feel Tomlin is a good coach. I don't anymore. He's not even in the neighborhood anymore. I am burnt out on his stubbornness and his bullshit. It's insanity that we are NOT moving on from this never ending nightmare known as Groundhog's Day in the Steel city.
This time period now should also be examined. The media is echoing what the fans are complaining about (as they should) and how that helps calm down everyone with their pitchforks and torches. Do you see how that fits in yet? Then the draft and free agency. Then it all starts again with the exact same scenario happening all over again. Force change by hitting the organization where it hurts. Money, money, money. Take it away from them by not letting all of this frustration dampen by the start of next season.
The only thing that will change in 2025 is how the Steelers will crawl to 9 wins and get blown out in the wildcard round. Maybe they'll just lose four straight in November instead.
The sight of seeing TJ Watt keep tackling Dereck Henry when he didn't have the ball is going to stay with me for a long time. He was told to do that, rather than going on his instincts.
Doesn't matter still be one and done. There is only 1 solution. Get a new head coach. News flash TJ , tomlin has wasted your entire career so far. Go find a new team and win one. Don't worry tomlin brings evey old player back.
It appears the good teams have figured that out. Find a 3-4 coordinator and a head coach who has a good grasp of that scheme. Sounds like new blood in coaching ranks. Sounds good to me.
@@shelleyrenee4889 he will no one stays forever it's for you to real fan it out and say welp we'll win next season because I don't think you were there when they fired Chuck Noll or Bill Cower but it happened right
Tomlin can't delegate worth a crap. I laugh when NFL pundits say it would be a mistake to fire Tomlin. If Tomlin goes to another team what kind of staff could he attract? Please go to another team and prove your head coaching abilities. Steelers should hire the top OC and DC candidates and then promote their best organizational person to be head coach - someone who can delegate - whether they are currently on the coaching staff, in scouting, in the front office, or in the secretary pool. After a year or so, then decide which coordinator should be HC.
You know, there’s a sneaky take that says Tomlin would be talked about as the goat had he switched teams every handful of years taking his command of the podiums to each franchise utilizing established players, coordinators and culture then moving on before it inevitably got stale… staying too long is what exposed him. Sure, he would’ve left places worse than he took it over but that would’ve easily gotten swept under the rug as him being the champion that left during the rebuild. But that didn’t happen and he’s the most overrated motivational speaker of all time!
If he wants to keep Mike fine but take his control of the defense and offense away. Hire coordinators and let them actually do their job. Tomlin is a great motivator, that’s about it.There is a reason why you never hear of any team wanting to hire from his coaching tree. The rest of the NFL knows they are puppets. Don’t even say Flores because he was established before Pittsburgh.
That will happen next year with my family. The past 8 out of 50+ as a Steeler fan has been an excruciating pain !! I won't mind Bud Lighting the Rooneys. Hell, the Lions been a blast to watch.
DK a broken clock is right at least one time so as long as I say we will win the Superbowl next year one year I'll be right and I'm a passionate enough fan to believe it
Thanks for your honest and insightful description of the players and the Steelers organization. Mighty bleak. But then I picture Mike Tomlin and Annie singing a duet, "Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya tomorrow, you're always a day away". Maybe Coach T has a future on Broadway.
This issue is that Tomlin needs to change and adapt. He wants to win with his guys his way. He coached to his ego and pride. He had to be right. He stayed comfortable and he absolutely lived in his fears. He played Russ over Justin even when Russ was clearly not the answer or delivering on what Tomlin said Russ was to provide. Same with Beenie Bishop and Cam Sutton. Beenie was trending upwards and then Tomlin benched him for a guy playing much worse. Same with Roman wilson and Mike Williams. Why not get these players run? He does not develop players anymore. He does not correct players like Jones or Pickens. They were the clear cornerstones of the offense and repeat offenders and they did not improve. He did not play to their strenghts. he played to his perceived thoughts.
Hey DK, it seems like Tomlin plays to not lose. Want to know what the Kenny Pickett, Russel Wilson, Justin Fields, and even Mitch Trubisky experiments had in common? And I know those names aren’t special. But they were all handicapped by Mike Tomlin. They were told to “keep the ball out of harms way” which yes, this will win you games, but it won’t win you championships. At what point do we take the leash off and see what Russ, Fields, and previously Kenny could actually do. Let them determine their own fate or success. Let’s see what we have in our players.
During 2018 draft with an aging and past-prime Big Ben, the Steelers selected Terrell Edmunds with the 28th pick. The Ravens then selected Lamar Jackson with the 32nd pick.
I don't think the situation is super dire. Ok, Art may not fire Tomlin the HC.....BUT he might be willing to fire Tomlin the DC (e.g. curtail his micromanagement of the D). do that, and dump his frontman Austin. pursue Rivera for DC. if not Rivera, then a Saleh or someone with actual credentials. try to lure back Munchak to replace Meyer. Munchak has ties to Arthur Smith going back to the Titans.
Good Morning DK , not really sure what I'm feeling right now. But when did Mike Tomlin and his EGO become bigger than the Pittsburgh Steelers ? The biggest problem is that Mike Tomlin thinks he knows what's best for Pittsburgh Steelers is ridiculous! And how is he CAPABLE of looking at himself and still thinking that he was right. This is just Hard to WATCH and listen to him saying that they have to do a Better Job when in fact it's Mike Tomlin that needs to do a BETTER JOB!!! Dayton Ohio
I think DK hit on a valuable point: words are just words & we've all held them to be far too valuable in regards to this football franchise. They're meaningless, look at people's actions. I think this is good advice in all aspects of life.
The Steelers are the St Louis Cardinals of the nfl. They flex about how good a roster they build leading into the season, and the season goes good for a while, then they crumble when they face real competition. The St Louis Cardinals, like the Steelers, live off past glory with championships and keep hanging onto hope for a championship that will never come.
So sick of Tomlins excuses. He should be a politician. People should continue to make memes and really drag the guy all off-season and until he leaves or makes meaningful changes. He is not going to self correct.
management stability is widely recognized as a key toward success in the nfl. but stability can turn to decay when taken to extreme as we are currently witnessing. it’s never comfortable to leave the known for the unknown but we must.
The question and phrasing I would die to ask/use: "Mike, on the topic of tough decisions, you mentioned 'that is why I am well-compensated.' As we sit here today have the Pittsburgh Steelers gotten their money's worth from you?"
Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of INSANITY. TOMLIN must go for Any current talent to shine ! If he had Integrity he would resign, if he stays it will be a Disgrace !
Maybe you should ask him those pointed questions about him stepping back from the play calling. Maybe the fans should stop paying to go to the games and hit Rooney in the pocketbook.
Also - NO, Tomlin is not a good “leader of men.” I was a 3E771 from 2001 to 2010. I’ve been around great leaders - they always lead by EXAMPLE, and none of the guys had continued attitude problems - this is getting guys in the military, whom you don’t choose. Tomlin can’t control his own locker room, and people are confusing “players coach” with “leadership.” Two separate things - it’s why players love him, and the results never change. No accountability for anyone, just loyalty.
Now that I think about it, it honestly wouldn’t anger me one bit of TJ rejected another contract with this team. The guy deserves to be a champion. Hearing about how committed he remains to the team just makes me appreciate him that much more, and it also at the same time makes me sad because he deserves better. If I were him, I would seriously consider signing elsewhere after next season if the direction of this team doesn’t change.
I love TJ & Cam. If they ever request a trade to a better team to get a ring for their legacy, i would hold no ill feelings. When it's all said & done, we know they will retire a Steeler regardless.
Tomlin should have been a politician - his words never match reality, and he will gatekeep any media from actually asking tough questions. Brooke Pryor paid for it last year.
Tomlin conversation is turning like the Big Ben conversation, just to find out that after Ben came ( Mason, Picket, Hodges, Fields, Russell) and here we are. We got Arthur and we need better defensive Coordinator. There is a reason players like Watt or Heyward
Wassup DK, how long do you think we have with Dan Moore, Issac, and James Daniels? I hope Broderick and go back to left tackle and we draft an Inside lineman this draft to replace Issac since mason did such a good job this year. We might not need to bring back James or Dan this year.
It will likely take till the end of his current contract for the team to consider parting ways with Tomlin. And even still, there’s no guarantee they won’t extend him in a year or two…
Change of leadership is a bare minimum to be a contender ever again, cleaning of house and getting rid of a few very heavy defensive contracts wouldnt be a bad idea either
This is spot ON! Dale Lolly might wanna listen to this for some insight into reality for what his articles spout and his talk show spouts daily through the season. Somehow the entire sports reporting group in PIT has given up on promoting reality in favor of looking for “the positive”. EXCEPT THIS GUY! There is no positive in these same results happening yr after yr. Having the same outcome when different results are expected without change, is INSANITY. Tomlin needs to go inirder to get better/different results.
DK - I wish we had an authentic look at the collapse of this team this season. Additionally, why do the Steelers refuse to make significant changes? This past offseason shows they have the capacity to do it. However, they don’t. Is this Rooney not willing to put his foot down? Do quality OCs, DCs, etc., not want to be part of the Steelers? That is why we never have a coaching tree. Is it all on Tomlin, and if so, why is he so willing to allow for mediocrity? These are questions that I feel like others have had, but yet we can never find real answers.
I hate owners who want a bigger say in day to day operations. Hire a GM and let him work. Let him do the hiring and firing. Art is 1 step below a Jerry Jones type.
I don’t like saying this, but the only way Tomlin we’ll be let go or resign is if the Steelers actually miss the playoffs because of a losing season and it might take more than one. Most of us remember when Bill Cowher had 3 consecutive playoff misses in the late nineties. But Dan Rooney believed in him and never gave up on Bill’s desire and motivation to win. Well, he was right. However, the situation is much different these days. The beliefs that we’ll get another ring under Tomlin are practically nonexistent.
7:12 it’s because he feels he knows better than yall/us and doesn’t owe an explanation… he literally turns the media and the fans into enemies.. the players are blaming the media reports for the collapse lmaoo… you hear it in the pressers they often take shots at yall “you guys” is often used..
You Know What’s Really Tiring Is Hearing The Players Say How Much They Love Mike T But On The Field It Doesn’t Look Like That No Pride No Will It Was A Time Teams Feared Playing Pittsburgh Now They Look At Us Like A Bye Week
This is the stop where i get off. I can no longer ride this train. If the owner doesn't care, why should I? I'll still listen to DK cuz i like his show. But as far as watching games and following the Steelers. Nah, I'm good.
I have a J1Q. Doesn't ownership of the Steelers look at past history and greatness of years past, and not want to go back to that Standard? Do whatever needed including changes at the coaching levels?
There is a Bill Murray movie shot up the street at Punxsutawney that has a similar story. It's called Groundhog's Day.
At this point it seems the only loyalty Tomlin has is to that 12 million a year. I've seen 2nd graders play with more Tenacity and heart than these guys coach or the guys play. IMHO Tomlin was never a talented coach, and now he just down right sucks.
"PHIL?????"
@@selaxlife7621 If you mean me, I do not have 2 logins. Saibot79/B Phil is me
Cam and TJ may feel a sense of loyalty to Mike T but if they want to win a Lombardi before they retire they better request a trade or demand a new HC
You're loyal to your wife you're in the house with her you know her good and bad what if I say you need a new wife just based on what I see from the outside would you leave her that's basically what we as fans do we're not in the locker room
TJ should be concerned about his game 150+ snaps without a stat.
ABSOLUTELY ! To late too fix this "Broken"!
@@victorsimmons5776You’re comparing a marriage to a head coach/ player? Co workers ? 😂🤡
Steelers biggest issue is the OL. 3 Rookies. Steelers were suppose to be 4-13. People forget that! Tomlin is Fine. The only issue I have with Tomlin is not Starting Corey Trice Jr over Donte Jackson who solid in Zone but terrible in Man to Man. Corey Trice Jr and JPJ on the outside will allow Watt and HighSmith to regain their form!
The unfortunate thing about this situation is that I just can't get excited for the regular season anymore, what's the point? We can pile up the wins, drop 30 points a game, have the number 1 ranked this or that, but ultimately when it comes to December and January I'll be expecting a meltdown, and all the fun and games we had along the way will mean nothing - again! All hope appears to be quashed, and that's a sad place to be as a fanbase.
You took the words out of my mouth. Well said.
Thank you DK. It is very clear the coaches were out coached, five times in a row. I don't think words matter right now. It's time for change. I hope they are way more concerned and truthful up front more importantly to themselves as a team. Awesome show DK.
I've been a Steelers fan my whole life - close to 40 years. I've haven't always loved the franchise decisions, like coordinators, but I have always loved Tomlin. I had an interesting moment the other day when I saw that Mike Vrabel went to the Patriots, and I was bummed for a second. My first thought was, "Man, he would have been a good pickup for us." It made me realize that my confidence in Tomlin and the organization has dropped quite a bit.
I couldn't agree with you more. Mike Tomlin is the problem and I've said this for years and got so much flack for it. It's like no one is allowed to criticize him and I'm sick of it.
We all know why we’re not allowed to criticize him lol
"What'll change"? Nothing as long as you have the same HC.
What will change on this? I'm looking forward to more shouting in the wind.
We can continue to be a losing team with Tomlin or take the chance and be a losing team OR maybe start winning again with someone new. I think Tomlin should have a little Integrity and resign. If he's the coach next year this fan of 50+ years won't be supporting. Let's do a coach Campbell turn around !!!
@@shelleyrenee4889 So, they had a losing record this year?
@hamiljohn It's been bad for 8 years, where have you been. Tomlin won a SB on the tails of Cowher and a Solid team. The progression of the team has been downhill for years. When someone isn't "producing" results you get rid of them not make excuses for them. I'm guessing you never owned or ran a business.
@@hamiljohn - shouting into the wind at Acrisure is what got Canada fired…
I'm done getting worked up about the Steelers and Tomlin. If Rooney isn't worked up enough to make change, then why should I get worked up? If the players aren't worked up enough to make change, then why should I get worked up? I used to dislike Pickens because of his disruptive bad attitude, but do you know what? I've come to realize, alot of his antics came out of frustration for not utilizing him correctly and because of the "same old same old" with the team going on! I actually like Pickens now, understand his frustration, and respect his honesty and competitiveness! This IS the Steelers for the next 2-3: years and that's the way it is. Who am I to tell Rooney how to run HIS team? I'm done. See you next season Steelers! Luv ya Black and Gold!
Pirates time!😂
@bighilltom I've been done with them a LONG time ago...
@@bighilltomThank god I’m not a pirates fan, I already get enough disappointment from one Pittsburgh team lol
Pickens had this issues before he was even picked up on the draft. Tomlin gave him the opportunity when all other teams pass on him. He should be more grateful IMO. Tomlin is the rare coaches that knows how to deal with the Pickens, Browns, Holmes ... deevas attitude.
Penguins for me but yes
Whatll change?
The weather.
Changes will be made, but nothing will change.
The Steelers will simply rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.
If TJ is always hurt at the end of the season and doesn't do anything in the playoffs, is he worth keeping around anyway?
TJ will retire a Steeler. He’s the only one I truly believe that loves this team. I’d be shopping Fitzpatrick for sure. Cam will also finish his career out there.
Maybe if the Steelers focuses on an offense that can move the ball and score points, the defense wouldn’t be playing so much. Instead it’s quick three and out. Run run pass
I say no. Trade him, he's not a contributor vs better competition, nor is most of that overpriced defense. Ship them out and spend the money on offense. I think we have enough evidence to say the defense-centric approach has failed spectacularly.
He's hurt at the end of the year because the defense plays 46 minutes a game.
No trade him & Mincah fire Tomlin and let’s just start over
Beanie Bishop was 2nd on the Steelers in int with 4 and he didnt get to play in the playoffs. Jackson had 5.
Almost like they played well off eachother.
Tomlin chose Sutton. Remember that.
Agreed. MT sat our biggest LB (Smith) and CB (Trice) when needed most
@@3-4ZoneBlitz Because Tomlin sucks. He has no control of the players, the plays, the clock, time outs or challenges. He's a relic on the sidelines who looks like a deer in Headlights !
Tomlin is so backwards in every thing he does. Oh beanie doesn’t have the experience. Well how the hell is the young guys very going to get experience if he never plays them
DK you are really the only reason I am paying attention at all anymore. As long as Tomlin is here, I won't be and it kills me.
Unfortunately Ive felt this way for about a decade now. I literally just tune in each year to root for a sub .500 season so we can finally stop celebrating mediocrity
@@21DaHoagie12 Mason Rudolph saving the 2023 season wasn't a good thing. And Tomlin wasn't even grateful.
@@Saibot79 He hated being exposed for having kept the only competent QB on the roster buried on the bench. Not sure what Mason did to deserve it, but boy did Tomlin ever have it out for him. Heck, we may have gotten better results if we had just gone with Mason this year, but Tomlin ran him off apparently.
Art Rooney has more in common with Mike Brown than his late great father
It ALWAYS starts with the HEAD COACH
New DC needs to have it written into contract that he has ultimate control of defense and defense plays.
Nothing. Nothing will change DK.
Yup TJ been banged up this year... BUT FIRE TOMLIN !
Not happening he will leave on his own terms
@ that’s why next season will be the same ol sh!t..
@@victorsimmons5776
If he stays he has no Integrity
Can't really be mad at Tomlin anymore. Rooney needs to be held accountable from the fans and local media to the point where he gets uncomfortable. You may feel Tomlin is a good coach. I don't anymore. He's not even in the neighborhood anymore. I am burnt out on his stubbornness and his bullshit. It's insanity that we are NOT moving on from this never ending nightmare known as Groundhog's Day in the Steel city.
I can't stand his ego and how cool he thinks he is. The lovely cross he wears, ray ban sunglasses, nike sweatshirts, but no coaching!!!
This time period now should also be examined. The media is echoing what the fans are complaining about (as they should) and how that helps calm down everyone with their pitchforks and torches. Do you see how that fits in yet? Then the draft and free agency. Then it all starts again with the exact same scenario happening all over again. Force change by hitting the organization where it hurts. Money, money, money. Take it away from them by not letting all of this frustration dampen by the start of next season.
Nothing is going to change … just howling at the moon.
Well let's go down there with torches and pitchforks DK !!😂
Same old same old and we can't change it, they got us by the dam sack see ya next season
The only thing that will change in 2025 is how the Steelers will crawl to 9 wins and get blown out in the wildcard round. Maybe they'll just lose four straight in November instead.
We shouldnt of got rid of Brian Flores. Wouldve liked to see him be DC or even HC after Tomlin
I would rather have james Harrison as head coach....with him steelers would be a no nonsense team. And who's going to act out against him?
What will change? Nothing, really. Maybe an extra win or loss, give or take.
The sight of seeing TJ Watt keep tackling Dereck Henry when he didn't have the ball is going to stay with me for a long time. He was told to do that, rather than going on his instincts.
Doesn't matter still be one and done. There is only 1 solution. Get a new head coach. News flash TJ , tomlin has wasted your entire career so far. Go find a new team and win one. Don't worry tomlin brings evey old player back.
They need to go back to a traditional 3-4 defense with a nose tackle and with traditional outside linebackers not edge rushers
It appears the good teams have figured that out. Find a 3-4 coordinator and a head coach who has a good grasp of that scheme. Sounds like new blood in coaching ranks. Sounds good to me.
Force Tomlin out. Hire ben Johnson. Let him build whatever staff he wants. Go win playoff games again
What's the next lottery numbers you seem to be able to know the future or better yet you should run for president 😑😑😑
@@victorsimmons5776
Or just stay in the same old losing stagnant BS for another 8 years. NOPE, Tomlin needs to go, They have nothing to lose...DUH
How are you going to force Tomlin out? Tell us your plan?
@lesterholmes8473 Rooneys Fire him. Just like every other coach that has been "Let Go" before their contract is up.
@@shelleyrenee4889 he will no one stays forever it's for you to real fan it out and say welp we'll win next season because I don't think you were there when they fired Chuck Noll or Bill Cower but it happened right
I LIKE THE 3D BACKUP QB ...
DK you nailed it!
Tomlin can't delegate worth a crap. I laugh when NFL pundits say it would be a mistake to fire Tomlin. If Tomlin goes to another team what kind of staff could he attract? Please go to another team and prove your head coaching abilities. Steelers should hire the top OC and DC candidates and then promote their best organizational person to be head coach - someone who can delegate - whether they are currently on the coaching staff, in scouting, in the front office, or in the secretary pool. After a year or so, then decide which coordinator should be HC.
THIS!!!!!!
You know, there’s a sneaky take that says Tomlin would be talked about as the goat had he switched teams every handful of years taking his command of the podiums to each franchise utilizing established players, coordinators and culture then moving on before it inevitably got stale… staying too long is what exposed him.
Sure, he would’ve left places worse than he took it over but that would’ve easily gotten swept under the rug as him being the champion that left during the rebuild.
But that didn’t happen and he’s the most overrated motivational speaker of all time!
You Nailed it once again !! It's JUST WORDS !! Tomlin is the King of Words !! Love TJ Watt !! 😎🇺🇸🇺🇸
If he wants to keep Mike fine but take his control of the defense and offense away. Hire coordinators and let them actually do their job. Tomlin is a great motivator, that’s about it.There is a reason why you never hear of any team wanting to hire from his coaching tree. The rest of the NFL knows they are puppets. Don’t even say Flores because he was established before Pittsburgh.
Until Tomlin starts hurting Rooney's pocket book, he will never get rid of him. EVER NEVER!
That will happen next year with my family. The past 8 out of 50+ as a Steeler fan has been an excruciating pain !! I won't mind Bud Lighting the Rooneys. Hell, the Lions been a blast to watch.
Exactly
Spot on DK, spot on 🙌🏼 it’s sad too 😢
DK a broken clock is right at least one time so as long as I say we will win the Superbowl next year one year I'll be right and I'm a passionate enough fan to believe it
I wish watt and cam would leave to get a ring. No one in pittsburgh would blame them
Time for change 👍
Thanks for your honest and insightful description of the players and the Steelers organization. Mighty bleak. But then I picture Mike Tomlin and Annie singing a duet, "Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya tomorrow, you're always a day away". Maybe Coach T has a future on Broadway.
enough is enough
This issue is that Tomlin needs to change and adapt. He wants to win with his guys his way. He coached to his ego and pride. He had to be right. He stayed comfortable and he absolutely lived in his fears. He played Russ over Justin even when Russ was clearly not the answer or delivering on what Tomlin said Russ was to provide. Same with Beenie Bishop and Cam Sutton. Beenie was trending upwards and then Tomlin benched him for a guy playing much worse. Same with Roman wilson and Mike Williams. Why not get these players run? He does not develop players anymore. He does not correct players like Jones or Pickens. They were the clear cornerstones of the offense and repeat offenders and they did not improve. He did not play to their strenghts. he played to his perceived thoughts.
He was never a coach who developed players and he never will.
Hey DK, it seems like Tomlin plays to not lose. Want to know what the Kenny Pickett, Russel Wilson, Justin Fields, and even Mitch Trubisky experiments had in common? And I know those names aren’t special. But they were all handicapped by Mike Tomlin. They were told to “keep the ball out of harms way” which yes, this will win you games, but it won’t win you championships. At what point do we take the leash off and see what Russ, Fields, and previously Kenny could actually do. Let them determine their own fate or success. Let’s see what we have in our players.
I feel so bad for TJ
During 2018 draft with an aging and past-prime Big Ben, the Steelers selected Terrell Edmunds with the 28th pick. The Ravens then selected Lamar Jackson with the 32nd pick.
It's sad that DK could get up there and answer all the questions they'd ask Tomlin as if you were Tomlin That's how predictable he is
I don't think the situation is super dire. Ok, Art may not fire Tomlin the HC.....BUT he might be willing to fire Tomlin the DC (e.g. curtail his micromanagement of the D). do that, and dump his frontman Austin. pursue Rivera for DC. if not Rivera, then a Saleh or someone with actual credentials. try to lure back Munchak to replace Meyer. Munchak has ties to Arthur Smith going back to the Titans.
this reminds me of a old motley crue song, same ole situation, same ole song and dance.
Good Morning DK , not really sure what I'm feeling right now. But when did Mike Tomlin and his EGO become bigger than the Pittsburgh Steelers ? The biggest problem is that Mike Tomlin thinks he knows what's best for Pittsburgh Steelers is ridiculous! And how is he CAPABLE of looking at himself and still thinking that he was right. This is just Hard to WATCH and listen to him saying that they have to do a Better Job when in fact it's Mike Tomlin that needs to do a BETTER JOB!!! Dayton Ohio
I'm starting to have a genuine feeling that Art Rooney is the problem 😧
He is... and will remain the problem.
I think DK hit on a valuable point: words are just words & we've all held them to be far too valuable in regards to this football franchise. They're meaningless, look at people's actions. I think this is good advice in all aspects of life.
Good morning DK, HARD working Stan the man checking in, have a wonderful day. I'm listening 🎧
Words you'll never hear from Mike Tomlin: "Jesus, take the wheel."
That wheel will drive us to Russell Wilson unfortunately
DK, you truly have your finger on the pulse of the fan base’s heartbeat…thank you for being our voice! Hopefully, those at the top are listening #PSFL
The Steelers are the St Louis Cardinals of the nfl. They flex about how good a roster they build leading into the season, and the season goes good for a while, then they crumble when they face real competition. The St Louis Cardinals, like the Steelers, live off past glory with championships and keep hanging onto hope for a championship that will never come.
Yea, I'm blaming the insanity on Art Rooney. Sucks man
So sick of Tomlins excuses. He should be a politician. People should continue to make memes and really drag the guy all off-season and until he leaves or makes meaningful changes. He is not going to self correct.
NOTHING will change unless TJ, Cam and Minkah individually or collectively tell Art II that they want to be traded.
Tomlin was never a defensive genius. He needs to let go of that idea. He is not Belichick.
All I can say DK is from the words of donkey in the movie Shrek " I need a hug"😞😞😞😞
I am a season ticket holder and have been for years...i am NO LONGER going to another single game until TOMLIN'S GONE OR I SEE A CHANGE IN HIM
management stability is widely recognized as a key toward success in the nfl. but stability can turn to decay when taken to extreme as we are currently witnessing. it’s never comfortable to leave the known for the unknown but we must.
Question to ask Mike Tomlin at the next sit-down meeting, "So...how long are you going to go with 'Hope and Change' as a Strategy?"
6:52 so tired of his generalities/cliche statements
Bring Flores back. He had that defense cooking.
No point. DCs are just puppets in Pittsburgh.
In other words, the players need to wake up and smell the coffee.
The question and phrasing I would die to ask/use:
"Mike, on the topic of tough decisions, you mentioned 'that is why I am well-compensated.' As we sit here today have the Pittsburgh Steelers gotten their money's worth from you?"
Last year: "Next year's QB is in the building." Sure. Where are they now?
TJ had zero tackles if he was injured he should not been playing...
Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of INSANITY.
TOMLIN must go for Any current talent to shine ! If he had Integrity he would resign, if he stays it will be a Disgrace !
Maybe you should ask him those pointed questions about him stepping back from the play calling. Maybe the fans should stop paying to go to the games and hit Rooney in the pocketbook.
Also - NO, Tomlin is not a good “leader of men.” I was a 3E771 from 2001 to 2010. I’ve been around great leaders - they always lead by EXAMPLE, and none of the guys had continued attitude problems - this is getting guys in the military, whom you don’t choose. Tomlin can’t control his own locker room, and people are confusing “players coach” with “leadership.” Two separate things - it’s why players love him, and the results never change. No accountability for anyone, just loyalty.
Now that I think about it, it honestly wouldn’t anger me one bit of TJ rejected another contract with this team. The guy deserves to be a champion. Hearing about how committed he remains to the team just makes me appreciate him that much more, and it also at the same time makes me sad because he deserves better. If I were him, I would seriously consider signing elsewhere after next season if the direction of this team doesn’t change.
This job going cause you high blood pressure i can hear you change this team changing us all dk time for them to wake up for real
I love TJ & Cam. If they ever request a trade to a better team to get a ring for their legacy, i would hold no ill feelings. When it's all said & done, we know they will retire a Steeler regardless.
Ask little Mike if "Bringing back JOY" is part of his Strategy...
Tomlins mediocrity has permeated the team. Losing is part of our culture now, so our players are indoctrinated and see it as normal.
Tomlin should have been a politician - his words never match reality, and he will gatekeep any media from actually asking tough questions. Brooke Pryor paid for it last year.
Tomlin conversation is turning like the Big Ben conversation, just to find out that after Ben came ( Mason, Picket, Hodges, Fields, Russell) and here we are. We got Arthur and we need better defensive Coordinator. There is a reason players like Watt or Heyward
Wassup DK, how long do you think we have with Dan Moore, Issac, and James Daniels? I hope Broderick and go back to left tackle and we draft an Inside lineman this draft to replace Issac since mason did such a good job this year. We might not need to bring back James or Dan this year.
Keep Issac. Let the other 2 walk
It will likely take till the end of his current contract for the team to consider parting ways with Tomlin. And even still, there’s no guarantee they won’t extend him in a year or two…
Change of leadership is a bare minimum to be a contender ever again, cleaning of house and getting rid of a few very heavy defensive contracts wouldnt be a bad idea either
This is spot ON!
Dale Lolly might wanna listen to this for some insight into reality for what his articles spout and his talk show spouts daily through the season.
Somehow the entire sports reporting group in PIT has given up on promoting reality in favor of looking for “the positive”. EXCEPT THIS GUY!
There is no positive in these same results happening yr after yr. Having the same outcome when different results are expected without change, is INSANITY.
Tomlin needs to go inirder to get better/different results.
How many times has we heard from Tomlin after each lost...Their gonna be changes made..and..nothing, same old same old, it's a broken record.
DK - I wish we had an authentic look at the collapse of this team this season. Additionally, why do the Steelers refuse to make significant changes? This past offseason shows they have the capacity to do it. However, they don’t. Is this Rooney not willing to put his foot down? Do quality OCs, DCs, etc., not want to be part of the Steelers? That is why we never have a coaching tree. Is it all on Tomlin, and if so, why is he so willing to allow for mediocrity? These are questions that I feel like others have had, but yet we can never find real answers.
I hate owners who want a bigger say in day to day operations. Hire a GM and let him work. Let him do the hiring and firing. Art is 1 step below a Jerry Jones type.
I don’t like saying this, but the only way Tomlin we’ll be let go or resign is if the Steelers actually miss the playoffs because of a losing season and it might take more than one. Most of us remember when Bill Cowher had 3 consecutive playoff misses in the late nineties. But Dan Rooney believed in him and never gave up on Bill’s desire and motivation to win. Well, he was right. However, the situation is much different these days. The beliefs that we’ll get another ring under Tomlin are practically nonexistent.
Nothing but players will change as long as tomlin stays steelers will not make playoff run
7:12 it’s because he feels he knows better than yall/us and doesn’t owe an explanation… he literally turns the media and the fans into enemies.. the players are blaming the media reports for the collapse lmaoo… you hear it in the pressers they often take shots at yall “you guys” is often used..
Nothing will change ! Overpayed on D , with 3 players.
You Know What’s Really Tiring Is Hearing The Players Say How Much They Love Mike T But On The Field It Doesn’t Look Like That No Pride No Will It Was A Time Teams Feared Playing Pittsburgh Now They Look At Us Like A Bye Week
This is the stop where i get off. I can no longer ride this train. If the owner doesn't care, why should I? I'll still listen to DK cuz i like his show. But as far as watching games and following the Steelers. Nah, I'm good.
Or to the statehouse.. he would be a good politician
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I am predicting that Tomlin WILL NOT take any accountability.
I'm done with this season. I'm focusing on the rest of the playoffs. See you next season, Steelers.
Fitzpatrick called out the defense to change and was overturned,i guarantee it
I have a J1Q. Doesn't ownership of the Steelers look at past history and greatness of years past, and not want to go back to that Standard? Do whatever needed including changes at the coaching levels?