One thing I've not seen mentioned in the comments is that the cable was mounted so poorly to the grappling hook that the weight of the car basically sliced it no matter what. That amount of force put onto a small 180 degree angle is not going to go well. Even the high tech rope could probably have done it if mounted better. In all 3 tests the cables only ever broke at the mounts.
Love how the safety people just decided to take a day off for this episode, Indoor 30000 psi, Jaime going up a thin line with nothing below him (like even a yoga mat), driving a car with 2 mythbusters (no stunt/safety people), trying to hook steel cables to steel, having the cables snap and send hooks flying with Tori just standing there AAAaaand Adam casually dropping nail guns that consistently bounce higher than his head i.e. could hit him in the face. 5/7 perfect episode
Yeah, they got better as they went along and gained experience, but i also like the earlier episode such as this where it was more honest and raw... Different time and age... Remember when they nearly set the shop alight testing rockets inside?
They got the ring thing _completely_ wrong. In the comics, The Phantom's ring is effectively an instant tattoo device. He _does not_ hit you hard enough to leave a permanent dent, the ring just perforates your skin and injects ink into it. Incidentally, his left ring works the same but brands people with his "good" mark of four crossed swords instead of the skull so his allies and heirs know to trust them, and he doesn't _punch_ people with that one. What impressed me as a kid was that, given the preceding facts, he clearly only ever punches baddies with his right fist, effectively fighting with one hand. :D
And they made the ring wrong. I had a ring that basically did what they are talking about, it was a letter that was raised and sharp, and if you hit someone in the forehead, it ABSOLUTELY left a scar. Myth confirmed, myth busters where bad at their jobs 😂😂💯
@@XXhite not to mention...STERLING SILVER? really? Silver is a SUPER soft metal wth, heck even 18ct gold is harder than sterling silver. Even if they didn't want to spring for titanium why not just go for hard steel?
To add to the complaints about the ring: The pig had all its blood drained and Pork Loin had no flesh at all, while a ring would likely leave a visible discoloration from popped blood vessels. Of course you dont see anything if theres no blood in your analog at all!
The ring punch tests always bothered me. Kari made a negative impression of a skull in a big flat square. That's the worst configuration for making an impression in anything. She should have made an actual skull shaped ring. That would have had a much better chance of making an impression in the test skull
Aye, same here. Then again, messing it up this completely seems almost intentional. I mean at this point, they could have not been that clueless on how the physics behind hitting objects work?
also their human skull analog doesn't have blood circulation. a ring would leave a mark, but not immediately, it will take a time to become a bruise in roughly the shape of the ring. not 100% about this, though
I think the same, I have seen a ring impression after a punch with a ring and the reason for it to be well so See was of the stones that was set on it, lots of small ones all over the ring. And you could count it on his arm so Material and design seem to be the main part to consider.
19:55 the rollercoaster of emotion on Jamies face is priceless. At first I thought he was going to scold Adam but no! 😂 For those who wonder, a Hyneman rarely shows emotions in the wild!
I habe some insults in this great Episode: First the Ring-Punch myth. Real flesh are flown by blood and behaviors completly different than death Skin. Secound the Batman Myth with the Nailgun. Tere also 10 mm Cardriges who will penetrate The nail much deeper in the Concrete and the angle was wrong, you dont will pull the nail outwards of the concrete, you will pull downwards. But it`s again a really Cool episode👍
The ring they chose certainly would never leave a mark. Worst of the selection that were designed, and the designs they came up with were universally pretty bad for it It really needed some kind of ridges
7:00 the grapling hook climb thing is just silly. Like yea these two can't climb the rope, i assume neither of them have trained enough to do so. A lot of people can climb ropes, in fact you can train to do it "legs are deadweight" style too so you're not only not using your legs but they're just dangling there, and hardest of all the L-sit rope climb. and it's clear that superheroes that use this grappling hook are at the very least fit and trained enough to be able to do this easily. So it's kinda unfair to use Jamie and Adam to do this instead of like a marine who can climb ropes easily.
This was the only episode that made me shut the tv off and walk away. The Phantoms ring was originally made by a french clockmaker, and the edges were needles with some jungle dye. It was a tattoo, not a scar. I'm old enough to have actually read the comic..
The nail thing was kind of obvious. A nail is meant to withstand vertical forces while sticking horizontal in wall. In other words it is meant to withstand forces perpendicular to the way it is in the wall. But the way they applied force to it was roughly in line with the nail, so there was literally no easier way to pull it out. The nail might as well have been held by a toddler.
Some content creators these days try and replicate the Attack on Titan cable gun and sometimes that takes them days or months to finish one. Jamie on the other hand, took one day to create a prototype. Imagine giving him a week or a month. Gosh. I wish Mythbusters were still going because I could see a lot of anime myths being tested.
The one with The phantoms ring is weird... Cause one of my old friends hit a guy in the forehead with a versace medusa ring and it left the medusa face in the guys forehead for like 2 days...
That's what I was thinking. It looks like more than 50% of the force goes towards stopping the car and not actually rotating it towards the turn. But even then they would've needed a stronger cable anyway.
The ring episode was one of the worst, even back then i thought "Everything is wrong" in this experiment. I easily could cast a ring wich leaves a skull mark on your skin. They used a real bad design.
The version of The Phantom i read as a kid here in Sweden said that the ring had some sort of acid on it to make the mark. Long time i read that comic so i don't remember any details though.
Admittedly I am skimming through this so they might have explained this, but that ring is not at all what the Phantom used. That's a massive slab of a ring, the Phantom had a skull shaped one.
I've been rewatching a lot of MythBusters and I am finding myself amazed that nobody was ever hurt. There are a lot of times when people were saved by luck, not by being behind a blast screen or something.
This is wrong, u need the reeal skull ring and it is made of steel, i had one when i was a kid and it left a mark, not permanent but u could clearly see thee mark after a light tap from the ring, and the skull pattern had relatively sharp edges. so redo the rings and try again
Here is my two cents on that ascending device : If you gonna use an inertia fused nail projectile/launcher like Adams device, you need it to be self propeled like a RPG or a Gyrojet shell. (remember Newton laws) The projectile is the abutment! The other solution is something that looks like a big concrete peg similar in shape to one James bond use in "The diamond are forever" (ruclips.net/video/Ybc6taOgaxU/видео.html at 2:06). Quite clever designed and believable gadget for once! For the device itself why not build a winch & capstan combination? Winch for speed and spooling/unspooling the line and a motorized capstan - the anchor point - for the torque and lifting (think of sailing winch). And it can work both ways. One motor can power both. Sometimes MB either did not see the engineering connection they could have used or purposefully design a device to "bust".
As a kid Phantom was my favourite hero so few things, He is not a superhero, he is like Batman. Just a hero and second he didnt punch so hard it leave a skull scar, there was a spring, ink and needles in a ring like a tattoo gun. So when he punches needles pop up and make skull tattoo to criminals face
Early days for them, they improved as they went along and learned more. I mean it was even quite late in the series when they had THAT incident that completely changed and ramped up their protocol around firing projectiles...
@@somedude3443 They were at the bomb range firing a cannon, the cannon shifted and the cannon ball ended up being sent into a residential area, hit a couple of cars and went through a house, after that they decided to only do cannon tests in a remote quarry. If you search mythbusters cannon incident it should come up, they addressed it in the episode also (can't think of the name of the episode of the top of my head)
i wonder if modern winch cable could help that batmobile myth..? my winch has rope that'll hold up to 6 tonne. and it's lightweight and flexible. modern tech.
But you know physics enough to know what happens when your lower half is being held up while going up the wall u see people in the military walking the side of the wall all the time guys ur problem was u were being held but the ladie and ur weight was being moved away from the wall rather then u pulling yourself against the wall like u would have 7:11
That was the wrong ring to use in my opinion. Bc the mark was gouged into the metal essentially, was like a knuckleduster. If they would’ve used the one with the protruding mark it might’ve had a chance at leaving a “stamp” on the skin even in the form of the outline of the ring
You will need some percentage of upper body strength to climb a wall with a rope,adams a floppy middle age powder puff ffs, C'mon guys, make it semi realistic at least
They should have heated the ring. I may be wrong but nowhere in the comic is it mentioned if the impression is purely by force or by some other mean, either super natural or HEAT! If they heated the ring I bet they would have left a mark. btw using a heated imprint tool is how animals are marked.
A DEAD PIG CANNOT "SCAR" - "SCARRING" IS AN ACTION OF A LIVE ORGANISM FFS! Debunked my ass, this episode still annoys the heck out of me, you need a live subject that can BLEED for the myth to work! I know for a fact that you can leave an impression of something in a human if you hit him hack enough, its caused by blood vessels rupturing... Also it works best with sharp edges.
This probably was one of the episodes the channel forced them to make. I can't imagine any one of them came up with the idea: "You know what we should do? Try to reproduce in the real world comic book gadgets, despite the fact that comic book world has completely different laws of physics as well as technology far above our own."😅 Doesn't stop it from being fun to watch, of course.
I don't know. They are a bunch of geeks and nerds. Pretty sure some of them are comic fans, so them trying to duplicate comic tech seems pretty on point.
Why are we still talking about this like a weather phenomenon or a political issue? Its almost like finding a troop glider in WW2 and only caring about glider and dont even care where all the soldiers gone. People, these vehicles are just that; vehicles, they carry living beings which are way more advanced and intelligent than us and they are here with a purpose. But all we care is to turn those vehicles into economical or political gain. Our idiotic greed will be our doom.
One thing I've not seen mentioned in the comments is that the cable was mounted so poorly to the grappling hook that the weight of the car basically sliced it no matter what. That amount of force put onto a small 180 degree angle is not going to go well. Even the high tech rope could probably have done it if mounted better. In all 3 tests the cables only ever broke at the mounts.
Love how the safety people just decided to take a day off for this episode,
Indoor 30000 psi, Jaime going up a thin line with nothing below him (like even a yoga mat), driving a car with 2 mythbusters (no stunt/safety people),
trying to hook steel cables to steel, having the cables snap and send hooks flying with Tori just standing there
AAAaaand Adam casually dropping nail guns that consistently bounce higher than his head i.e. could hit him in the face.
5/7 perfect episode
He didn't tie in to his harness properly either.
Yeah, they got better as they went along and gained experience, but i also like the earlier episode such as this where it was more honest and raw... Different time and age... Remember when they nearly set the shop alight testing rockets inside?
They ARE the safety people. So we don't have to.
@@nicholascrow8133 Early? That isnt early... Have you seen season 2?
I said I also like earlier episodes...@@gabrielv.4358
They got the ring thing _completely_ wrong. In the comics, The Phantom's ring is effectively an instant tattoo device. He _does not_ hit you hard enough to leave a permanent dent, the ring just perforates your skin and injects ink into it.
Incidentally, his left ring works the same but brands people with his "good" mark of four crossed swords instead of the skull so his allies and heirs know to trust them, and he doesn't _punch_ people with that one. What impressed me as a kid was that, given the preceding facts, he clearly only ever punches baddies with his right fist, effectively fighting with one hand. :D
And they made the ring wrong. I had a ring that basically did what they are talking about, it was a letter that was raised and sharp, and if you hit someone in the forehead, it ABSOLUTELY left a scar. Myth confirmed, myth busters where bad at their jobs 😂😂💯
@@XXhite not to mention...STERLING SILVER? really? Silver is a SUPER soft metal wth, heck even 18ct gold is harder than sterling silver. Even if they didn't want to spring for titanium why not just go for hard steel?
@@XXhite plus they neglected to put bone in their fist which gives a solid surface behind the force of the punch
Mr Walker, that's supposed to be a secret.
To add to the complaints about the ring:
The pig had all its blood drained and Pork Loin had no flesh at all, while a ring would likely leave a visible discoloration from popped blood vessels.
Of course you dont see anything if theres no blood in your analog at all!
The shape on the ring was also indented. An actual protruding shape would probably leave more of a mark.
12:00 Jamie clearly refused to dress up as a villian, so Adam shot the scene anyway using a cardboard cutout of Jamie.
The ring punch tests always bothered me.
Kari made a negative impression of a skull in a big flat square. That's the worst configuration for making an impression in anything.
She should have made an actual skull shaped ring. That would have had a much better chance of making an impression in the test skull
It would have been cheaper and easier to just go to a store and buy a proper skull ring. I did not like their versions either. Made no sense.
Aye, same here. Then again, messing it up this completely seems almost intentional. I mean at this point, they could have not been that clueless on how the physics behind hitting objects work?
also their human skull analog doesn't have blood circulation. a ring would leave a mark, but not immediately, it will take a time to become a bruise in roughly the shape of the ring. not 100% about this, though
The sharp edges of the ring they used are ideal for making an indentation. It didn't happen. Myth busted.
I think the same, I have seen a ring impression after a punch with a ring and the reason for it to be well so See was of the stones that was set on it, lots of small ones all over the ring. And you could count it on his arm so Material and design seem to be the main part to consider.
19:55 the rollercoaster of emotion on Jamies face is priceless. At first I thought he was going to scold Adam but no! 😂
For those who wonder, a Hyneman rarely shows emotions in the wild!
I habe some insults in this great Episode: First the Ring-Punch myth. Real flesh are flown by blood and behaviors completly different than death Skin. Secound the Batman Myth with the Nailgun. Tere also 10 mm Cardriges who will penetrate The nail much deeper in the Concrete and the angle was wrong, you dont will pull the nail outwards of the concrete, you will pull downwards.
But it`s again a really Cool episode👍
With the ring leaving an imprint, it's actually the bruising that shows the pattern, not the scar.
The ring they chose certainly would never leave a mark. Worst of the selection that were designed, and the designs they came up with were universally pretty bad for it
It really needed some kind of ridges
7:00 the grapling hook climb thing is just silly. Like yea these two can't climb the rope, i assume neither of them have trained enough to do so. A lot of people can climb ropes, in fact you can train to do it "legs are deadweight" style too so you're not only not using your legs but they're just dangling there, and hardest of all the L-sit rope climb. and it's clear that superheroes that use this grappling hook are at the very least fit and trained enough to be able to do this easily. So it's kinda unfair to use Jamie and Adam to do this instead of like a marine who can climb ropes easily.
Only Adam could joke about Jamie having his nose smashed into.
Keep posting Mythbusters episodes. I love it. 😃
They should have watched sherlock Holmes before testing the myth with the rings, u can't bruise a dead body
This was the only episode that made me shut the tv off and walk away. The Phantoms ring was originally made by a french clockmaker, and the edges were needles with some jungle dye. It was a tattoo, not a scar. I'm old enough to have actually read the comic..
1:56 Adam: ...noone turns green when they get angry and has super strength.
*cuts to Jamie looking on knowingly*
The nail thing was kind of obvious. A nail is meant to withstand vertical forces while sticking horizontal in wall. In other words it is meant to withstand forces perpendicular to the way it is in the wall. But the way they applied force to it was roughly in line with the nail, so there was literally no easier way to pull it out. The nail might as well have been held by a toddler.
28:39 Poor Grant did an accident and had to say sorry to the neighbors XD
15:08 Woaaaa, save that for the chilli episode! 🤣
The ring myth would have worked better if the ring was not engraved but sculpted (details outward instead of inward)
Some content creators these days try and replicate the Attack on Titan cable gun and sometimes that takes them days or months to finish one.
Jamie on the other hand, took one day to create a prototype. Imagine giving him a week or a month.
Gosh. I wish Mythbusters were still going because I could see a lot of anime myths being tested.
The one with The phantoms ring is weird... Cause one of my old friends hit a guy in the forehead with a versace medusa ring and it left the medusa face in the guys forehead for like 2 days...
even the scene with adam in a costume and jamies cardboard stand-up, has its own charme :D you can guess jamie didnt want to dress again XD
46:39 They should have put the cable in the front so it can hold the front of the car around the turn instead of having the car yank the pillar.
That's what I was thinking. It looks like more than 50% of the force goes towards stopping the car and not actually rotating it towards the turn.
But even then they would've needed a stronger cable anyway.
The ring episode was one of the worst, even back then i thought "Everything is wrong" in this experiment.
I easily could cast a ring wich leaves a skull mark on your skin. They used a real bad design.
In the comics, the ring has a sharp serrated raised edge along the countour of the skull.
The version of The Phantom i read as a kid here in Sweden said that the ring had some sort of acid on it to make the mark. Long time i read that comic so i don't remember any details though.
Hej där fellow svensk!
It was also a raised and serrated edge on the contour of the skull.
Admittedly I am skimming through this so they might have explained this, but that ring is not at all what the Phantom used. That's a massive slab of a ring, the Phantom had a skull shaped one.
I've been rewatching a lot of MythBusters and I am finding myself amazed that nobody was ever hurt. There are a lot of times when people were saved by luck, not by being behind a blast screen or something.
How wrong is the test with the ring? YES?
When you see Grant fire an air cannon indoor and immediately think: that can't end well ... seconds before it indeed doesn't go well...
🎶Nocturnal echolocating flying mammal man🎶
15:42 Grant’s superhero pose. 😂😅🤣
THE INCH WORM! 😂😂😂😂
This is wrong, u need the reeal skull ring and it is made of steel, i had one when i was a kid and it left a mark, not permanent but u could clearly see thee mark after a light tap from the ring, and the skull pattern had relatively sharp edges. so redo the rings and try again
You keep delivering, you are a hero in my book. Awesome 👍👍👍
Here is my two cents on that ascending device :
If you gonna use an inertia fused nail projectile/launcher like Adams device, you need it to be self propeled like a RPG or a Gyrojet shell. (remember Newton laws) The projectile is the abutment!
The other solution is something that looks like a big concrete peg similar in shape to one James bond use in "The diamond are forever" (ruclips.net/video/Ybc6taOgaxU/видео.html at 2:06).
Quite clever designed and believable gadget for once!
For the device itself why not build a winch & capstan combination? Winch for speed and spooling/unspooling the line and a motorized capstan - the anchor point - for the torque and lifting (think of sailing winch). And it can work both ways. One motor can power both.
Sometimes MB either did not see the engineering connection they could have used or purposefully design a device to "bust".
They were trying to make it small enough to fit on a person
29:49 that's a phantom camera on the ground?
I always thought that Jamie had big knots! 😉😂
they didn't needed a stronger cable, they needed a more elastic one to spread the charge over a longer period of time
As a kid Phantom was my favourite hero so few things, He is not a superhero, he is like Batman. Just a hero and second he didnt punch so hard it leave a skull scar, there was a spring, ink and needles in a ring like a tattoo gun. So when he punches needles pop up and make skull tattoo to criminals face
Yikes, they were not wearing safety hats! A single head collision would be a serious injury.
OMG this episode is full of very questionable safety decisions 😮
Early days for them, they improved as they went along and learned more. I mean it was even quite late in the series when they had THAT incident that completely changed and ramped up their protocol around firing projectiles...
@@nicholascrow8133 Hmm, if you don't mind me asking, what was "THAT incident"? I'm not sure if I saw this
@@somedude3443 They were at the bomb range firing a cannon, the cannon shifted and the cannon ball ended up being sent into a residential area, hit a couple of cars and went through a house, after that they decided to only do cannon tests in a remote quarry.
If you search mythbusters cannon incident it should come up, they addressed it in the episode also (can't think of the name of the episode of the top of my head)
@@nicholascrow8133 Oh right, I forgot about that one
😂ive actually seen someone get Reebok imprinted on someone’s face before so I’m guessing the ring thing is actually possible
Jamie was faster than a speeding building and could leap a tall bullet in a single bound.
I loved this show. I missed very much.
Gracias Gracias Gracias Gracias Gracias 👋👋👋👍
21:35
Need a name. For research purposes.
a few towing straps would do the trick
Ring has too much area, thus reducing pressure. Also i think the goal was to leave an imprint rather than a scar, requiring a more 3d shaped ring.
Without knowing it, Jamie and Grant passed the superhero combine. The League will be in contact soon...
i wonder if modern winch cable could help that batmobile myth..? my winch has rope that'll hold up to 6 tonne. and it's lightweight and flexible. modern tech.
In Vilnius, Lithuania we have our own batman and he is not the Caped Vigilante.
Send more Mythbusters
But you know physics enough to know what happens when your lower half is being held up while going up the wall u see people in the military walking the side of the wall all the time guys ur problem was u were being held but the ladie and ur weight was being moved away from the wall rather then u pulling yourself against the wall like u would have 7:11
Maybe he didnt realise what he was saying when he marvelled at the bloody of the hymen (Hyneman). Did anyone else mishear that?
That was the wrong ring to use in my opinion. Bc the mark was gouged into the metal essentially, was like a knuckleduster. If they would’ve used the one with the protruding mark it might’ve had a chance at leaving a “stamp” on the skin even in the form of the outline of the ring
They overlooked ring area.
Miss the goofiness of the junior busters.
Tori looks like the bad guy from Despicable Me
You will need some percentage of upper body strength to climb a wall with a rope,adams a floppy middle age powder puff ffs, C'mon guys, make it semi realistic at least
more of this
I feel like they used the wrong type of ring for the ring myth
Whats the trick to removed the watermark from Discovery Channel? Just zoomed in a bit?
Buying the licence.
I love Carrie
Carrie who? The MB girl is called Kari.
there will not be left here one stone on another, that will not be thrown down. Mathew 24.2
Extremely beautiful ❤😊
The ring punch is done wrong.
..the emblem is ment to be protruding not indented ...🤦♂️
So they were testing Batman equipment.. if you were Bruce Wayne who had billions .. I think you will not use some shity metal cable..
the ring trace is plauseble
They should have heated the ring. I may be wrong but nowhere in the comic is it mentioned if the impression is purely by force or by some other mean, either super natural or HEAT! If they heated the ring I bet they would have left a mark. btw using a heated imprint tool is how animals are marked.
The comic does tell. The edges of the symbol are serrated/spiked, and contains some secret jungle dye. It's an insta-tattoo..
A DEAD PIG CANNOT "SCAR" - "SCARRING" IS AN ACTION OF A LIVE ORGANISM FFS! Debunked my ass, this episode still annoys the heck out of me, you need a live subject that can BLEED for the myth to work! I know for a fact that you can leave an impression of something in a human if you hit him hack enough, its caused by blood vessels rupturing... Also it works best with sharp edges.
Tattoo color in the ring!!!!!
This probably was one of the episodes the channel forced them to make. I can't imagine any one of them came up with the idea: "You know what we should do? Try to reproduce in the real world comic book gadgets, despite the fact that comic book world has completely different laws of physics as well as technology far above our own."😅
Doesn't stop it from being fun to watch, of course.
I don't know. They are a bunch of geeks and nerds. Pretty sure some of them are comic fans, so them trying to duplicate comic tech seems pretty on point.
cows have branding sticks why not copy that design?? cmon complete bullshit
Why are we still talking about this like a weather phenomenon or a political issue?
Its almost like finding a troop glider in WW2 and only caring about glider and dont even care where all the soldiers gone.
People, these vehicles are just that; vehicles, they carry living beings which are way more advanced and intelligent than us and they are here with a purpose.
But all we care is to turn those vehicles into economical or political gain.
Our idiotic greed will be our doom.
Mythbusters are dum
Pig skin is not human skin
16:01 get the ring on target ffs