Two things. 1. I forgot to mention the accuracy. It's gaining just under 5 sec a day, so overall pretty good. 2. This really needs a good nickname. So please if you have something please suggest it. The only names I was coming up with was; The Posidean The North Star The Stick The Narwhal (Min hand kind of looks like a horn)
Orient Europa - after Triton and Neptune, I think this is a fitting name. Next one is, of course, Orient Hyperion.The one after that - Orient Callisto.
Tic Tacs and Pepsi doesn't quite ring like Mentos and Coke. 🤷♂️ Great review, btw! Good advice in general to not let minor flaws ruin your enjoyment of something. Kudos!
You are certainly one of the best reviewers on RUclips. this video is once again, very balanced, fair minded, observant and extremely calm/mellow. I bet as a friend you make a perfect good scotch and interesting conversation friend. The type you can confide anything to. If you are ever in Australia, let me know. (do you drink Scotch?) Cheers and thanks for another great watch review. From a subjective point of view I like the hands on this one...modern, and simple, whereas the Triton has hands which seem inelegant and overly aggressive. Having minute markings the whole way around makes it useful for the dozens of non-diving related uses of a bezel. In terms of value, the current prices of Glycine subs, which are half a cm thinner, would make this a choice based on its aesthetics being a strong motivator. The dial is beautiful as is the finishing as you noted.
Yes, this one has a LOT going for it.....The Kamasu, Triton, and Orient Star are all great watches, imo.....Shane, you have produced another outstanding review!!! BTW, I really like the Pepsi bezel....and I have become a big fan of power reserve indicators.
I got mine a year ago and ordered directly from Japan. Keep better time than my Oris Aquis and competes ahdn on hand with my Sinn 104. I put it on a leather strap and it is a sweetie
As an Orient fan, the initial price put me off, they were generally going for around $750+ when they were first released. My biggest gripe was $750+ ... and a pressed clasp!!. I might just have another think about them, now that the price seems to be coming down a little. It's a handsome watch, and I 've been wanting a larger diver, as the small number I currently have are all around the 40mm mark. Thanks for the tip re the TUS site, I'd never heard of them!.😃
You asked about the movement… I believe this is the undecorated version of the same movement that’s in the Orient star outdoor. That would make sense I suppose because it has the same power reserve indicator, has a close case back so no need for a decoration, and is in the ‘Starr’ line. Thanks for the great review!
Thank you for the great review. This looks like a sports watch that would have me neglecting my collection because I would want to wear it all the time. That dial and hands are near perfect in design.
I just bought one at about $530 including shipping (Jomas). Alas, it wasn't available on the Orient web site or any other non-gray-market site. I messed around with the bracelet, but I utterly failed to fit it to my wrist. There is a quirky pin and collar system that is totally different from the usual Orient bracelets that I can adjust in a coma. A jeweler did it for about $20. It is obviously a heavy watch, but I find it extremely well balanced and comfortable on my 7-inch wrist. It is extremely easy to read. The dial is very different from any other. There is no homage to Seiko or Rolex here. I like the open, wide face. So, a great purchase. And yes, I WILL be taking it diving.
@@RelativeTime Travel is such a bother, nowadays. I have forgotten whether you are an American. If so, I'd suggest Cozumel. I have dived there many times, and it's also cheap. (II like to have save money if I don't have too sacrifice much.)
@@RelativeTime I have now taken it diving. It's extremely functional: easy to set the bezel and easy to read at any depth. It's obviously over-engineered. While it has no crown guard, I expect it just doesn't need one. Also, the blue dial pops under brightly lit underwater conditions. This is a "diver's 200m," and, in every way, it feels like one. While Orient told me not to take my Kamasu diving (and so I haven't), I've used it in water, and it's just not as functional, no matter how pretty its red dial is.
Hi Shane, i have the green one and You´re right with bezel play. It's too light and should be more precise. But the watch is perfectly legible, and the lumens are also very powerful. Despite the size, it is wonderful to wear. I also think the "pressed" clasp is very well made, it is above all comfortable, cleanly made and has no sharp edges. It's the first watch i have with a power reserve display and i have to say: you quickly get used to it and don't want to be without it anymore. The clock rates are also top.
Jason, I have many Orient watches. What's funny is that, no, it doesn't compare to a Grand Seiko, but I still find the designs very pleasing. Orients will not dazzle, but they sure do please. (I actually think the Sun & Moon v3 DOES dazzle, and I don't care what anyone says.)
I bought the solid blue version of this watch a few weeks ago. I also have a blue Ray II, a green Kamasu, a blue Triton and a black Triton. I plan on keeping them all, plus my green Bulova Oceanographer (Devil Diver), Citizen BN0191-55L and Glycine Combat Sub Ambush. Luckily, I don’t have to live with only one diver, but if I did, I am thinking it would be this Orient Star.
@@valentind134 Probably my black Triton/Neptune. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. I did also buy its replacement, the RA-AC0K01B10B (sometimes called the Triton Lite). It does not have the power reserve meter, the DIVER’S 200m rating or the diver extension on the bracelet. If those are not important, I would recommend it. I do prefer its longer minute hand, thinner case and its lighter weight. If a person has a smaller wrist, I recommend the Kamasu or the new RA-AA0810N19B (an update to the Ray II).
@Relative Time I've been anxiously awaiting this review since you posted your pics some time back... I've not been able to forget this model. I have a "grail" watch I need to save money for, and this one comes right next to it. I'm honestly kind of speechless; you've already mentionned everything about it. I think what stands out most to me, is the same as you: the hands and indices. The shape and finish. What I particularily appreciate about the dial is the fact they left out an inner beveled chapter ring. Instead, they focused on a certain "simplicity" to the layout. This is a model I get a feeling had so much work in the design department to get just right... from the placement of the cutouts on the hands to the pill shape and finish on markers and hands. They've managed to keep a very "Orient"-like look, but to bring it to a way sportier level, while maintaining the classy touch Orient divers have. Everything is for you to focus on the dial, and nothing else. The case is perfectly trimmed down and shapped in such a way that lugs are almost an afterthought. And the edge of that bezel... ohh man... Anyways, I could go on, because I fell in love with this one. In my eyes, Orient really hit the mark on this one. To me, it's their nicest watch. Thank you for the review and awesome close-ups!
Talk about a slow adopter - I finally bought one, and I LOVE it! The hands and hour markings make this an extremely easy watch to read. Also, great (but not overpowering) wrist presence.
Thanks for this. I have the Triton and the quality and finish is exceptional so I was very keen to see what the Star range would be like. Excellent video as always. Thank you. Would just like to add that the Triton has a lumed power reserve and the lume overall is excellent.
I want to thank you again for this review Shane… I had the triton which I sold along with a Kamasu… That gave me more than enough money to buy this watch… An opportunity to downsize the collection and upgrade it in my Opinion… 43 mm is generally on the upper end of what I like to wear… I think this one wears a bit smaller than that… Much like the SKX does… I intend to upgrade the bracelet however The bracelet itself is it terrible… Which is more than I can say about most Orient divers… it’s just a great watch!
Congratulations on 20k subs !🎂🍺 I have to agree with everything you say, especially about the lack of ceramic. Maybe they're taking a leaf out of mothers book and giving you less for more money.
The Triton bracelet fits this perfectly. I got a Super O Boyer for my Triton/Neptune and I swapped the bracelets and both watches still look amazing. Same way, the Kamasu bracelet fits the Phoibos wavemaster too. Perfect fit.
jomashop has it for $492. still for about $500 there are so many other watches out there with milled clasps and lumed ceramic bezels... even some with SW200s. anyway great review, love your channel
You can get a milled clasp on a cheap bracelet. An ceramic is not better than aluminum. Both are just prefernces, none are better than one another. The orient diver is a very high end , well put together watch. Change the bracelet thats all. None of those other watches come close to this orient star. An this orient star will be highly collectible in the coming years.
Just a beautiful design, I love the look of that bezel. I dislike the Mako and Rays "dented" bezel inserts, it serves no purpose other than to make it ugly so people would upgrade to their more premium diver.
From what I've seen, the M-Force is a real beast of a tool watch. Where this has some more refined touches. The M-Force also looks to be a little bit bigger, especially with the extended crown guards.
I can hear the wailing and moaning. Oh god a pressed clasp. Personally it matters not a bit. For years Rolex used pressed clasps and hollow end links. As for a name, "wave master" keeps coming to mind. Excellent review.
Excellent review. Your thoughts and comments are always so fair and balanced. I own the Shinrin Green model and I must say that it is a great watch. I agree that the bracelet is very supple and comfortable, despite the pressed clasp; which I really do not mind. This watch is under-rated .
Love you reviews! Very informative and delivered in a calm, relaxing manner. The focus on the lume is much appreciated, as is the various comparisons. Would love to see reviews of more expensive watches like Breitling, Omega, IWC, and Rolex. Maybe through loaners from stores, brands, or subscribers? Keep it up!
High beat rate sounds impressive, but you trade off power reserve and longevity/service interval. It's marketing hype more than it's actually better. At any rate, Orient is kicking Seiko's butt across the board.
As usual a great experience of a review from you. I love your shots in various elements and different straps. I've mentioned your narrative some times here, so not again lol. I'm usually not a pepsi guy, I mostly prefer black bezel inserts. But here it actually looked really good. That said, I'm usually not a blue dial guy either (usually to bright blue for my taste), but this was a really beautiful dial with that dark sunburst blue yet still vibrant. Orient Star always seems like premium quality for money even though this is a little steep for me personally, and also a little too big in size for me. A beautiful diver never the less. Keep up the good work.
I like that you include the weight, most review do not. But maybe we need a point of reference like about the same as an skx007. Excellent review and interesting watch.
Absolutely fantastic review video. I think the watch has too many negatives for the price though. What I noticed first is that the bezel appears to be clearly misaligned. And I'm not crazy about seeing a single-link "pseudo-oyster" bracelet on such an expensive watch. But it's good to know that is has the best pressed clasp 😉 And although I do like a touch of colour on dials and hands of a watch I think the yellow "Diver's 200m" writing looks a little bit out of place here. Finally the new Orient dive watches shown at the end of the video look pretty much like Orient want to offer something to the numerous SKX fans, hopefully with sapphire! 🖖
There is an Open Heart Orient Star Diver. It's a similar size, but way different case and supposedly a better bracelet. I might look at one in the future, but unfortunately they went the 21mm lug route there. The new ones say they are sapphire, which is one of the reasons I was thinking it's a Triton replacement. Although unfortunately it looks like took out the Diver's 200m along with the power reserve. Serious Watches already has them up for sale for 299 euros (~$350). So a little high, but not too bad.
For me it would, it will definitely be in my top 10 list for 2020. Although there are a lot of Divers in the 600-1000 range I haven't looked at. I still haven't looked at a Christopher Ward, but maybe this year.
Just subscribed and thank you for a great review. I am a orient star single brand collector and caught both of your reviews. What got me into the brand is the power reserve and dial designs esp their older models ... Initially, I thought this was too simple of a design unlike their earlier 200m diver - air revolver but still purchased their limited edition (blue dial with black bezel) and the longer i wear it i fell in love with it. Now have the green and black and yellow edition as well. I realised with orient star is that there are many who never owned one but never met one with just one orient star watch...hahaha
Great honest review as usual. I would love get an Orient Star, but I have to many divers already. Hopefully the will reissue their Star GMT one day. Thanks.
Seems like another awesome 😎 Orient diver for sure . I already own the Triton and the Orient Mforce Bravo which are both outstanding watches . This would definitely be one I’d like to add to the collection 👍🏻
It's a damn beautiful 😍 time piece... Love the lumes, applied indices, semi skeletonised hands... And, though funny... I love the sound of the bezel when rotating 😘❤️
Pricey Keeper.....Orient Star Preeker 👍.....yes I don't work in marketing as you can tell! Lovely watch, even with the slight disappointments. Love Orient Star. Orient is a great brand but the star line is definitely a step above. You should have kept your Retrograde mate! Great thorough review
😄. Thanks! Yah I regret selling the retrograde, but it was pretty early in the channel. Although I'm currently looking at another Orient Star dress watch. So might get that before the end of the year.
@@RelativeTime I still have my Retrograde. I did also have an Orient Star classic white dial with blue hands. I loved it, but ended up selling as I don't tend to wear a dress watch, and have a vintage Ricoh 70s automatic that I tend to wear when needed. I do kind of regret selling. But as said love Orient Star look forward to hearing about your new purchase mate if and when it happens 👍
I briefly show and talk about the diver extension about 13:45. It's very similar to what Seiko uses. Only desk diving with this one so far. Most of the pools around here are closed, and at least 6-7 hour drive to the beach. So probably won't for a while.
The Orient Star. I still have it and wear it frequently. While I wound up selling the Triton a while ago. I like the more unusual styling of it, and the case shape feels more comfortable to me.
Not that it matters in the States, the watch received Japan’s Good Design Award in 2019 that awards designs that are beautiful, functional, and have improved/innovated human lives A great watch from Orient!
Your reviews are so good...different than any other in terms of delivery, but you provide all the info required for a watch review. The way you discuss the look and feel of the various aspects (dial, bezel, finish) are what sets you apart, and I totally agree with you on this watch, I was thinking a lot of the things and then you were saying them in the review. Kinda cool. It is a looker for sure, love that dial, hands and the bezel (which surprised me, but I still think it looks great on that watch) but it does indeed have some serious competition given its price, you threw up some killer ones in your review. My only complaint is the strap show for this one, it was weak by your standards.... 😂 and it was the first time I didn’t like the look of a strap that you added on (not the rubber or braclet). But you are the king of straps, so it must be me...😉 I think this one could be a strap monster with that dial and bezel combo.
Great Review. I bought a Sport Outdoor which your review helped me decide on, and I love it. I love the case on the diver, the yellow 200m has to go, and at that price point I think it needs a glossy ceramic bezel. Nice photography and video work as always. God Bless from Wisconsin.
@@RoaroftheTiger I think " Man 'O War" is a cool name, but from what I've read it doesn't glow at night. It might be cooler if the name was translated to portuguese and be "Caravela". What do you think?
Thanks for doing this. I’ve been hoping someone would do exactly this. Trying to decide between the blue version of this at $430 or the Triton at $299 right now. Where I am buying from only has the black Triton when I’d rather have the blue... Is this watch $130 better than the Triton?
That's a tough call. At that price, I'd probably go with the Orient Star. The finishing is better, an extra 10hrs of power reserve, and I love the hands. But might depend on what you like. The Neptune is more of a pure tool watch with its matte dial, where this is a tad more elegant with a bit more flash. Although some of the Orient Star colorways will be more toned down than this. I think TUS watches mentioned that the sunburst effect isn't as dramatic on the standard blue and black.
Great review, Shane. I find myself looking to brands other than Seiko, these days; for best value set for your dollar. I am more than just a little off put by the price gouging for an SKX series. In excess of $325 for a watch with a 7S26? This watch is probably where Orient wants you to go after the Kamasu. Sadly, I have also heard the rumors about the Triton. I had taken that with a grain of salt until you said it. Now, it appears; to be somewhat more than just a rumor. Nevertheless, it was a good heads up for your viewers. Good job!
Another terrific review, Shane. I flipped my Triton earlier in the year...kinda miss it. This one is tempting....dial is awesome. Seems a tad overpriced, especially with a pressed clasp.
The date placement is unfortunate as it highlights the diminutive size of the movement. This watch suffers from 'big watch/tiny movement' syndrome. The clasp is 100% seiko. Looks to be an exact 1:1 copy of the clasp on my seiko prospex samurai.
Great indepth review & i prefer it to the triton,pretty much agree with all points earmarked,& zero ideas for a nickname but congrats on the 20k Cheers !🍺
Saw the pepsi version in the metal, and I surprisingly not pulling the trigger. I am looking for a watch with power reserve of 48+ hours with indicator, and thot this was it. The search continues...
i really love the value proposition on the orient brand. i am not a fan of the power reserve indicator. that goes for all watches grand seiko included.
Orienteer ? I have a couple of other Orient Stars and they have the Super Clear Coating on the crystal, the best in the world apparently and you can notice it ! RLex take note. thanks fr the vid Shane
Curious. Why do you think Seiko should take note of the watch’s signed crown? I think for the most part Seikos come with signed crowns at this price point, no? Perhaps on a reissiue you wouldn’t get a signed crown. My Sumo certainly had one and it was similarly priced.
From my own experiences, I can't really say when Seiko includes one and when they don't. On my Turtle (~$350-$400), and the sport watches below that I don't think I've seen one. As well as my new 2020 Alpinist (~$650) it didn't. Although strangely I remember seeing it on a Cocktail Time (~$350). So far I haven't quite figured out when they do or when they don't.
I'm still guessing that they went this route because they wanted that diver's extension. So they probably used the design or stock clasp for a turtle. Supposedly the other open heart Orient Star Diver has a milled one, but haven't seen it for myself.
I’m a huge Seiko fan I have an entire box dedicated from low end prospex to grand seiko SBGA diver so naturally I’m drawn to orient I love all the details but to put a cheap stamped claps on an orient star is kind of disappointing I think the open heart diver is more dynamic and refined for a negligible amount of money more. You can’t go wrong with an orient star though
Relative Time “Black boy” is the same color way as the skx007! i.e. black bezel and black face. www.amazon.co.jp/オリエント時計-腕時計-オリエントスター-RK-AU0302L-シルバー/dp/B07VX8XQLT/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=orient+star+diver&qid=1600317107&sr=8-6
I have the all blue variant. It's definitely a classy and special diver and exceptionally well made. Lume is better than most Seiko divers and lasts many hours. There is just something about this watch that makes it oustanding.... Thanks for a fantastic review video, Shane !
Clearly a lot more design effort was made on the OS than the Mako, Ray, Kamasu, Neptune, or Triton. That combination of Pepsi and Bond NATO is a look only a mother could love. Nickname: Orient Star Submarine. According to Gnomon Watches on the F6N47: "The 22 Jewels, 50-hour power reserve F6N47 Automatic runs at a daily tolerance of +25 to -15 seconds per day, beating at 21,600bph with a power reserve indicator at 12 o’clock (somewhat iconic across the whole Orient Star flagship line), a date display at 3 o’clock." I have no idea where they got this information except from Orient itself.
following the tradition of the kamasu and kano, and because this watch is killing it - it should be called the "shachi" w/c means killer whale in japanese .
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Two things.
1. I forgot to mention the accuracy. It's gaining just under 5 sec a day, so overall pretty good.
2. This really needs a good nickname. So please if you have something please suggest it.
The only names I was coming up with was;
The Posidean
The North Star
The Stick
The Narwhal (Min hand kind of looks like a horn)
Orient Europa - after Triton and Neptune, I think this is a fitting name. Next one is, of course, Orient Hyperion.The one after that - Orient Callisto.
@@vladimirpetreski7248 I like them. Especially Europa.
Peps-Orient?
Orient Pepsi Star
Tic Tacs and Pepsi doesn't quite ring like Mentos and Coke. 🤷♂️ Great review, btw! Good advice in general to not let minor flaws ruin your enjoyment of something. Kudos!
You are certainly one of the best reviewers on RUclips. this video is once again, very balanced, fair minded, observant and extremely calm/mellow. I bet as a friend you make a perfect good scotch and interesting conversation friend. The type you can confide anything to. If you are ever in Australia, let me know. (do you drink Scotch?) Cheers and thanks for another great watch review. From a subjective point of view I like the hands on this one...modern, and simple, whereas the Triton has hands which seem inelegant and overly aggressive. Having minute markings the whole way around makes it useful for the dozens of non-diving related uses of a bezel. In terms of value, the current prices of Glycine subs, which are half a cm thinner, would make this a choice based on its aesthetics being a strong motivator. The dial is beautiful as is the finishing as you noted.
Yes, this one has a LOT going for it.....The Kamasu, Triton, and Orient Star are all great watches, imo.....Shane, you have produced another outstanding review!!! BTW, I really like the Pepsi bezel....and I have become a big fan of power reserve indicators.
I got mine a year ago and ordered directly from Japan. Keep better time than my Oris Aquis and competes ahdn on hand with my Sinn 104. I put it on a leather strap and it is a sweetie
I wish they did a 40mm version of this one 🙃great review, Shane! Congrats on the 20k : ) keep the ball rolling!!
I’ve always liked the no crown guard look. And I actually prefer the look of the bezel insert compared to ceramic!
As an Orient fan, the initial price put me off, they were generally going for around $750+ when they were first released. My biggest gripe was $750+ ... and a pressed clasp!!. I might just have another think about them, now that the price seems to be coming down a little. It's a handsome watch, and I 've been wanting a larger diver, as the small number I currently have are all around the 40mm mark. Thanks for the tip re the TUS site, I'd never heard of them!.😃
Absolutely love it.........just need to nudge them towards a ‘high-beat” movement option
You asked about the movement… I believe this is the undecorated version of the same movement that’s in the Orient star outdoor. That would make sense I suppose because it has the same power reserve indicator, has a close case back so no need for a decoration, and is in the ‘Starr’ line. Thanks for the great review!
That makes sense. Thanks!
Thank you for the great review. This looks like a sports watch that would have me neglecting my collection because I would want to wear it all the time. That dial and hands are near perfect in design.
I just bought one at about $530 including shipping (Jomas). Alas, it wasn't available on the Orient web site or any other non-gray-market site. I messed around with the bracelet, but I utterly failed to fit it to my wrist. There is a quirky pin and collar system that is totally different from the usual Orient bracelets that I can adjust in a coma. A jeweler did it for about $20. It is obviously a heavy watch, but I find it extremely well balanced and comfortable on my 7-inch wrist. It is extremely easy to read. The dial is very different from any other. There is no homage to Seiko or Rolex here. I like the open, wide face.
So, a great purchase. And yes, I WILL be taking it diving.
Awesome to hear. I still love mine, and was planning on taking it diving too. Unfortunately vacation plans had to be rescheduled. Perhaps next year.
@@RelativeTime Travel is such a bother, nowadays. I have forgotten whether you are an American. If so, I'd suggest Cozumel. I have dived there many times, and it's also cheap. (II like to have save money if I don't have too sacrifice much.)
@@RelativeTime I have now taken it diving. It's extremely functional: easy to set the bezel and easy to read at any depth. It's obviously over-engineered. While it has no crown guard, I expect it just doesn't need one.
Also, the blue dial pops under brightly lit underwater conditions.
This is a "diver's 200m," and, in every way, it feels like one. While Orient told me not to take my Kamasu diving (and so I haven't), I've used it in water, and it's just not as functional, no matter how pretty its red dial is.
Hi Shane, i have the green one and You´re right with bezel play. It's too light and should be more precise. But the watch is perfectly legible, and the lumens are also very powerful. Despite the size, it is wonderful to wear. I also think the "pressed" clasp is very well made, it is above all comfortable, cleanly made and has no sharp edges. It's the first watch i have with a power reserve display and i have to say: you quickly get used to it and don't want to be without it anymore. The clock rates are also top.
Such a lovely watch, massive fan of orient lately, love their dials. Reviewed a GMT on my channel and fell in love with it.
Jason, I have many Orient watches. What's funny is that, no, it doesn't compare to a Grand Seiko, but I still find the designs very pleasing. Orients will not dazzle, but they sure do please. (I actually think the Sun & Moon v3 DOES dazzle, and I don't care what anyone says.)
Without a doubt an exceptional watch, Orient offers a lot of quality at the right price. Excellent review.
its a little big for me but i love it, due to hard times i had to sell my oris aquis, if things ever pick up again i would like to try it
Shane you are the best! You and Random Rob are the 2 best in the world. Congrats.
Thanks!
I bought the solid blue version of this watch a few weeks ago. I also have a blue Ray II, a green Kamasu, a blue Triton and a black Triton. I plan on keeping them all, plus my green Bulova Oceanographer (Devil Diver), Citizen BN0191-55L and Glycine Combat Sub Ambush. Luckily, I don’t have to live with only one diver, but if I did, I am thinking it would be this Orient Star.
What is your favorite orient after the orient star ? It’s a bit expensive for me
@@valentind134 Probably my black Triton/Neptune. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. I did also buy its replacement, the RA-AC0K01B10B (sometimes called the Triton Lite). It does not have the power reserve meter, the DIVER’S 200m rating or the diver extension on the bracelet. If those are not important, I would recommend it. I do prefer its longer minute hand, thinner case and its lighter weight. If a person has a smaller wrist, I recommend the Kamasu or the new RA-AA0810N19B (an update to the Ray II).
@Relative Time
I've been anxiously awaiting this review since you posted your pics some time back... I've not been able to forget this model. I have a "grail" watch I need to save money for, and this one comes right next to it.
I'm honestly kind of speechless; you've already mentionned everything about it. I think what stands out most to me, is the same as you: the hands and indices. The shape and finish.
What I particularily appreciate about the dial is the fact they left out an inner beveled chapter ring. Instead, they focused on a certain "simplicity" to the layout. This is a model I get a feeling had so much work in the design department to get just right... from the placement of the cutouts on the hands to the pill shape and finish on markers and hands.
They've managed to keep a very "Orient"-like look, but to bring it to a way sportier level, while maintaining the classy touch Orient divers have. Everything is for you to focus on the dial, and nothing else. The case is perfectly trimmed down and shapped in such a way that lugs are almost an afterthought. And the edge of that bezel... ohh man...
Anyways, I could go on, because I fell in love with this one. In my eyes, Orient really hit the mark on this one. To me, it's their nicest watch.
Thank you for the review and awesome close-ups!
just picked up one and have to agree.. really great watch.
Hi) do you recommend it?
I bought this watch and it quickly became my daily. Hated the bracelet though and replaced it with a Strapcode Angus Jubilee with straight end links.
I have the blue Triton, which I wear a lot. Glad i got it since it may be discontinued soon
Talk about a slow adopter - I finally bought one, and I LOVE it! The hands and hour markings make this an extremely easy watch to read. Also, great (but not overpowering) wrist presence.
I still love this one. It may be Orient's biggest sleeper. Even after Jody did a review of it, not too many people know about it.
Thanks for this. I have the Triton and the quality and finish is exceptional so I was very keen to see what the Star range would be like. Excellent video as always. Thank you. Would just like to add that the Triton has a lumed power reserve and the lume overall is excellent.
The lume on the Triton is fantastic, it also surprised me on how good it is. Unfortunately I sold mine, otherwise I would of put them head to head.
i thoroughly enjoy the subtle boom boom in some of the close up shots.
Thanks for review!
It would be tough choice between this Orient Start and Orient Triton.
Great in-depth review! You make a strong case for this Orient Star Diver, even at the price.
I want to thank you again for this review Shane… I had the triton which I sold along with a Kamasu… That gave me more than enough money to buy this watch… An opportunity to downsize the collection and upgrade it in my Opinion… 43 mm is generally on the upper end of what I like to wear… I think this one wears a bit smaller than that… Much like the SKX does… I intend to upgrade the bracelet however The bracelet itself is it terrible… Which is more than I can say about most Orient divers… it’s just a great watch!
I got my used yesterday and it is hands down my favorite diver
Great looking watch. I think the days of under $500 Orient Star's are gone. Been watching prices and everything has gone up lately.
Congratulations on 20k subs !🎂🍺 I have to agree with everything you say, especially about the lack of ceramic. Maybe they're taking a leaf out of mothers book and giving you less for more money.
Apart from the Triton and this OS diver, the Orient M-force 2020 is also ISO/JIS rated. And most of the previous M-Force generations as well.
The Triton bracelet fits this perfectly. I got a Super O Boyer for my Triton/Neptune and I swapped the bracelets and both watches still look amazing.
Same way, the Kamasu bracelet fits the Phoibos wavemaster too. Perfect fit.
Thats good to know. I'll have to try it!
Enjoyed watching it at playback speed 1.25
jomashop has it for $492. still for about $500 there are so many other watches out there with milled clasps and lumed ceramic bezels... even some with SW200s. anyway great review, love your channel
Are those order watches true divers?
You can get a milled clasp on a cheap bracelet. An ceramic is not better than aluminum. Both are just prefernces, none are better than one another. The orient diver is a very high end , well put together watch. Change the bracelet thats all. None of those other watches come close to this orient star. An this orient star will be highly collectible in the coming years.
Shhh you're going to make the price go up
Just a beautiful design, I love the look of that bezel. I dislike the Mako and Rays "dented" bezel inserts, it serves no purpose other than to make it ugly so people would upgrade to their more premium diver.
Amazing looking piece and another great review!
Great review! How do you think it compares to the Orient M-Force?
From what I've seen, the M-Force is a real beast of a tool watch. Where this has some more refined touches. The M-Force also looks to be a little bit bigger, especially with the extended crown guards.
The new Orient Triton does not compare to the Orient Star Diver. The old Orient Neptune/Triton did compare, but they are hard to find.
A very cool watch. I love the staged photos, they are a few steps above the quality of any other watch channel I follow.
I can hear the wailing and moaning. Oh god a pressed clasp. Personally it matters not a bit. For years Rolex used pressed clasps and hollow end links. As for a name, "wave master" keeps coming to mind. Excellent review.
Excellent review. Your thoughts and comments are always so fair and balanced. I own the Shinrin Green model and I must say that it is a great watch. I agree that the bracelet is very supple and comfortable, despite the pressed clasp; which I really do not mind. This watch is under-rated .
Love you reviews! Very informative and delivered in a calm, relaxing manner. The focus on the lume is much appreciated, as is the various comparisons. Would love to see reviews of more expensive watches like Breitling, Omega, IWC, and Rolex. Maybe through loaners from stores, brands, or subscribers? Keep it up!
High beat rate sounds impressive, but you trade off power reserve and longevity/service interval. It's marketing hype more than it's actually better. At any rate, Orient is kicking Seiko's butt across the board.
As usual a great experience of a review from you. I love your shots in various elements and different straps. I've mentioned your narrative some times here, so not again lol. I'm usually not a pepsi guy, I mostly prefer black bezel inserts. But here it actually looked really good. That said, I'm usually not a blue dial guy either (usually to bright blue for my taste), but this was a really beautiful dial with that dark sunburst blue yet still vibrant. Orient Star always seems like premium quality for money even though this is a little steep for me personally, and also a little too big in size for me. A beautiful diver never the less. Keep up the good work.
I like that you include the weight, most review do not. But maybe we need a point of reference like about the same as an skx007. Excellent review and interesting watch.
Really beautiful results in your filming
Absolutely fantastic review video. I think the watch has too many negatives for the price though. What I noticed first is that the bezel appears to be clearly misaligned. And I'm not crazy about seeing a single-link "pseudo-oyster" bracelet on such an expensive watch. But it's good to know that is has the best pressed clasp 😉 And although I do like a touch of colour on dials and hands of a watch I think the yellow "Diver's 200m" writing looks a little bit out of place here. Finally the new Orient dive watches shown at the end of the video look pretty much like Orient want to offer something to the numerous SKX fans, hopefully with sapphire! 🖖
There is an Open Heart Orient Star Diver. It's a similar size, but way different case and supposedly a better bracelet. I might look at one in the future, but unfortunately they went the 21mm lug route there.
The new ones say they are sapphire, which is one of the reasons I was thinking it's a Triton replacement. Although unfortunately it looks like took out the Diver's 200m along with the power reserve.
Serious Watches already has them up for sale for 299 euros (~$350). So a little high, but not too bad.
@@RelativeTime Thanks for the heads up, Shane. They seem to be very compelling watches 👍
I’d love to see a comparison of this Orient Star diver to the new “Triton Light” you showed at the end of the video. Is the OS worth double the money?
Got mine. Thanks for the great review. Under 1000 do you think it is in your top 5 divers?
For me it would, it will definitely be in my top 10 list for 2020. Although there are a lot of Divers in the 600-1000 range I haven't looked at. I still haven't looked at a Christopher Ward, but maybe this year.
Yay! 20k subscribers! Congratulations Shane!! Truly well deserved 🌟🔥🥳🔥🌟 cheers from Bengaluru India.
Just subscribed and thank you for a great review. I am a orient star single brand collector and caught both of your reviews. What got me into the brand is the power reserve and dial designs esp their older models ... Initially, I thought this was too simple of a design unlike their earlier 200m diver - air revolver but still purchased their limited edition (blue dial with black bezel) and the longer i wear it i fell in love with it. Now have the green and black and yellow edition as well. I realised with orient star is that there are many who never owned one but never met one with just one orient star watch...hahaha
This is very true. Currently own two, and looking at getting one of the dress watches.
Great honest review as usual. I would love get an Orient Star, but I have to many divers already. Hopefully the will reissue their Star GMT one day. Thanks.
Excellent review! Good to hear how killer the lume is. Now im wondering if its better than the triton?
Seems like another awesome 😎 Orient diver for sure . I already own the Triton and the Orient Mforce Bravo which are both outstanding watches . This would definitely be one I’d like to add to the collection 👍🏻
Your watch shots seem to be on another level in this video. Fantastic!
Thanks!
You're really tempting me to pick one of these up....
How much are they going for over there?
@@RelativeTime usually around $700, but every now and then there's one or two models that drop down under $450
It's a damn beautiful 😍 time piece... Love the lumes, applied indices, semi skeletonised hands... And, though funny... I love the sound of the bezel when rotating 😘❤️
Nothing wrong with enjoying a good bezel.
Pricey Keeper.....Orient Star Preeker 👍.....yes I don't work in marketing as you can tell! Lovely watch, even with the slight disappointments. Love Orient Star. Orient is a great brand but the star line is definitely a step above. You should have kept your Retrograde mate! Great thorough review
😄. Thanks! Yah I regret selling the retrograde, but it was pretty early in the channel. Although I'm currently looking at another Orient Star dress watch. So might get that before the end of the year.
@@RelativeTime I still have my Retrograde. I did also have an Orient Star classic white dial with blue hands. I loved it, but ended up selling as I don't tend to wear a dress watch, and have a vintage Ricoh 70s automatic that I tend to wear when needed. I do kind of regret selling. But as said love Orient Star look forward to hearing about your new purchase mate if and when it happens 👍
Now you didnt mention or show if it has diver extensions ? And have do any scuba with it ? I love the look ..blue dial and pepsi bezel .
I briefly show and talk about the diver extension about 13:45. It's very similar to what Seiko uses. Only desk diving with this one so far. Most of the pools around here are closed, and at least 6-7 hour drive to the beach. So probably won't for a while.
Great review thanks. Question of curiosity. Which would you choose of the same styling? The Orient Star or Orient Triton and why?
The Orient Star. I still have it and wear it frequently. While I wound up selling the Triton a while ago. I like the more unusual styling of it, and the case shape feels more comfortable to me.
Not that it matters in the States, the watch received Japan’s Good Design Award in 2019 that awards designs that are beautiful, functional, and have improved/innovated human lives
A great watch from Orient!
I noticed that, but I'm not too familiar with the reward. So I wasn't sure if it was a big deal, or not.
Your reviews are so good...different than any other in terms of delivery, but you provide all the info required for a watch review. The way you discuss the look and feel of the various aspects (dial, bezel, finish) are what sets you apart, and I totally agree with you on this watch, I was thinking a lot of the things and then you were saying them in the review. Kinda cool. It is a looker for sure, love that dial, hands and the bezel (which surprised me, but I still think it looks great on that watch) but it does indeed have some serious competition given its price, you threw up some killer ones in your review.
My only complaint is the strap show for this one, it was weak by your standards.... 😂 and it was the first time I didn’t like the look of a strap that you added on (not the rubber or braclet). But you are the king of straps, so it must be me...😉 I think this one could be a strap monster with that dial and bezel combo.
Great Review. I bought a Sport Outdoor which your review helped me decide on, and I love it. I love the case on the diver, the yellow 200m has to go, and at that price point I think it needs a glossy ceramic bezel. Nice photography and video work as always. God Bless from Wisconsin.
Good clip and review. Not so with bezel. Colored ones seem to vie for attention aside from dial proper.
I think a good nickname for it would be "jelly fish", because it has an awesome lume and skeleton hands, transparent, if you will.
Ok.... I get It. But perhaps being more specific, would be best ? How about a - ('Portuguese') " Man 'O War " ?
@@RoaroftheTiger I think " Man 'O War" is a cool name, but from what I've read it doesn't glow at night. It might be cooler if the name was translated to portuguese and be "Caravela". What do you think?
@@gabrieltauchen8159 - Brilliant ! ;-)
Orient should put you guys on the payroll. They come up with trash like the Mr. Orient usa commercials
@@mrbacchus6127 Having a "bad day" ???
The crown alone sells me on this watch. I HATE 4 o’clock crowns just as much as I LOVE unguarded crowns. The Triton doesn’t stand a chance
Thanks for doing this. I’ve been hoping someone would do exactly this. Trying to decide between the blue version of this at $430 or the Triton at $299 right now. Where I am buying from only has the black Triton when I’d rather have the blue... Is this watch $130 better than the Triton?
That's a tough call. At that price, I'd probably go with the Orient Star. The finishing is better, an extra 10hrs of power reserve, and I love the hands. But might depend on what you like.
The Neptune is more of a pure tool watch with its matte dial, where this is a tad more elegant with a bit more flash. Although some of the Orient Star colorways will be more toned down than this. I think TUS watches mentioned that the sunburst effect isn't as dramatic on the standard blue and black.
I was just writing about the hands and you said it. good call. nice watch.
I like the hand and the marker of this watch, the model is simple but not aggresive enough. But the date window is to small
as always a great video. beautiful watch, but I would prefer a matte black bezel. the pepsi combination is not for me. 💯👍
Great review, Shane. I find myself looking to brands other than Seiko, these days; for best value set for your dollar. I am more than just a little off put by the price gouging for an SKX series. In excess of $325 for a watch with a 7S26? This watch is probably where Orient wants you to go after the Kamasu. Sadly, I have also heard the rumors about the Triton. I had taken that with a grain of salt until you said it. Now, it appears; to be somewhat more than just a rumor. Nevertheless, it was a good heads up for your viewers. Good job!
Another terrific review, Shane. I flipped my Triton earlier in the year...kinda miss it. This one is tempting....dial is awesome. Seems a tad overpriced, especially with a pressed clasp.
It is, but if you happen to find one at a good price I think it's worth it. A few have mentioned finding them for just over $400.
The date placement is unfortunate as it highlights the diminutive size of the movement. This watch suffers from 'big watch/tiny movement' syndrome. The clasp is 100% seiko. Looks to be an exact 1:1 copy of the clasp on my seiko prospex samurai.
Great indepth review & i prefer it to the triton,pretty much agree with all points earmarked,& zero ideas for a nickname but congrats on the 20k Cheers !🍺
TQ. Eyeing the green version now...
Saw the pepsi version in the metal, and I surprisingly not pulling the trigger. I am looking for a watch with power reserve of 48+ hours with indicator, and thot this was it. The search continues...
i really love the value proposition on the orient brand. i am not a fan of the power reserve indicator. that goes for all watches grand seiko included.
Orienteer ? I have a couple of other Orient Stars and they have the Super Clear Coating on the crystal, the best in the world apparently and you can notice it ! RLex take note. thanks fr the vid Shane
Oh yeah, i just to loved my Triton, i sold and bought my Baby Tuna which i love even more.
Orient star is very nice. Lightly decorated movement on some models.
Curious. Why do you think Seiko should take note of the watch’s signed crown? I think for the most part Seikos come with signed crowns at this price point, no? Perhaps on a reissiue you wouldn’t get a signed crown. My Sumo certainly had one and it was similarly priced.
From my own experiences, I can't really say when Seiko includes one and when they don't. On my Turtle (~$350-$400), and the sport watches below that I don't think I've seen one. As well as my new 2020 Alpinist (~$650) it didn't. Although strangely I remember seeing it on a Cocktail Time (~$350). So far I haven't quite figured out when they do or when they don't.
And the bezel marker(s) never hits the inner markers accurately, it seems
Showed a quasi hidden gem here. Excellent video as all of yours are.
Change the clasp for a strap code. And is perfect
Orient are great, no doubt about it, but sometimes I really wonder how they manage to put milled clasp on $140 watches and pressed one on $700+ ones.
I'm still guessing that they went this route because they wanted that diver's extension. So they probably used the design or stock clasp for a turtle. Supposedly the other open heart Orient Star Diver has a milled one, but haven't seen it for myself.
thought you have the cronoz watch to check the lume against the orient star.... well explained thank
Yep, I was going to write this as well. Maybe he flipped it already.
I love the Pepsi Star Diver. My next purchase will be this or a Glycine combat sub.
I’m a huge Seiko fan I have an entire box dedicated from low end prospex to grand seiko SBGA diver so naturally I’m drawn to orient I love all the details but to put a cheap stamped claps on an orient star is kind of disappointing I think the open heart diver is more dynamic and refined for a negligible amount of money more. You can’t go wrong with an orient star though
Interesting video. Subscribed.
Thanks. What's your thoughts on it?
@@RelativeTime Good watch, let down by a poor clasp. A Steinhart Ocean One 39 ceramic is better value/quality for less money. Regards.
@@watchreviews4k True. Steinhart is hard to beat, but always fun to see something a bit different.
Beautiful! Love that one, wish it was a bit cheaper.
The “black boy version” available at Amazon Japan for 44,800 yen (about US$425, GBP330)
That's a good price. Which one is the "Black Boy" Version? The Gilt? Got to love Japan and some of their crazy names.
Relative Time “Black boy” is the same color way as the skx007! i.e. black bezel and black face. www.amazon.co.jp/オリエント時計-腕時計-オリエントスター-RK-AU0302L-シルバー/dp/B07VX8XQLT/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=orient+star+diver&qid=1600317107&sr=8-6
I have the all blue variant. It's definitely a classy and special diver and exceptionally well made. Lume is better than most Seiko divers and lasts many hours. There is just something about this watch that makes it oustanding....
Thanks for a fantastic review video, Shane !
Great review work. Happy to be subscribed. Awesome watch.
Thanks! Welcome to the channel.
Just got one for myself today ....... Value for money....
A blue one?
Clearly a lot more design effort was made on the OS than the Mako, Ray, Kamasu, Neptune, or Triton. That combination of Pepsi and Bond NATO is a look only a mother could love. Nickname: Orient Star Submarine. According to Gnomon Watches on the F6N47: "The 22 Jewels, 50-hour power reserve F6N47 Automatic runs at a daily tolerance of +25 to -15 seconds per day, beating at 21,600bph with a power reserve indicator at 12 o’clock (somewhat iconic across the whole Orient Star flagship line), a date display at 3 o’clock." I have no idea where they got this information except from Orient itself.
This or the Mido commander?
I have been thinking about getting an Orient Star. Would you recommend this diver, the outdoor , or something else?
Nice watch. Just needs a weekday indicator like in my Orient Tristar.
excellent review thank you
following the tradition of the kamasu and kano, and because this watch is killing it - it should be called the "shachi" w/c means killer whale in japanese .
I really like that pilled blue pespi cookie, espically that splash of yellow text. But damn the date wheel is a serious miss.
I think it should without date