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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth: Dream Worlds, Dates, and Death (Ending Deep Dive 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
  • Aerith's final free moments, possibly ever. A date. Where Dreams and Worlds and meaning become one. Where heroes fight for the right to exist, where deities exert their initial salvos of direct cosmic warfare, where every innocent detail comes alive with intense meaning, and where two people discover something in each other. The next instant they'd have would be when Cloud is vainly trying to stop Sephiroth from killing Aerith.
    Answers and questions arise like an army caught awash in the flood of relentless emotion. The best and the worst happens, and from it Cloud, Aerith, and Zack are forever changed. As is Biggs and every other beloved entangled to these three direly entrenched heroes.
    It is humbly recommended to have already watched the previous episode of the Ending Deep dive, for better contextual awareness of some of the ideas presented:
    Part 1, Temple of the Ancients and a New Midgar
    • Final Fantasy VII Rebi...
    Enjoy!
    Relative Timeline of Events:
    0:00 Flower Resolution Opening
    1:11 Recap of What’s Occurred So Far
    3:32 Zack the tragic Scion, The immortal Hero
    5:06 The Dream Date
    6:21 Where Dream and World unite
    8:35 Endangered innocence and Cosmic Forces
    9:38 The One Winged Angel’s Plan
    10:55 Zack, the Brave Leaf caught in Cosmic Winds
    14:21 The Abuse of Power, and a Ray of Hope
    15:33 Murder and a Sacred Moment worth Dying for
    17:43 Light, Dark, Law and the unbroken Fourth Team
    Music in order of appearance:
    Aerith’s Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    Listen to the Cries of the Planet, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    Under the Apple Tree, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    Flowers Blooming in the Church, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    You Can Hear the Cry of the Planet, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    The Price of Freedom, Takeharu Ishimoto (1)
    I’m Waiting Cloud, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Remake Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    FFVII Opening Theme, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    Hollow Instrumental, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    No Promises to Keep, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    (Piano Version) Pablo Enver (2)
    Her Final Prayer, Nobuo Uematsu (1)
    (Rebirth Version) Masashi Hamauzu, Mitsuto Suzuki
    (1) / @squareenixna
    (Square Enix Music Channel) / @squareenixmusicchanne...
    (2) • FFVII Rebirth Theme - ...
    Remake, Rebirth and Ever Crisis footage:
    Faz Faz, / @fazfaz
    Buffmaister, / @buffmaister
    GamersPrey, / @gamersprey
    Dream Phoenix, / @dreamphoenix
    Banden, / @bandentcy
    “Any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again.”
    ― Homer, The Iliad

Комментарии • 47

  • @ourfamilyaccount
    @ourfamilyaccount 2 месяца назад +10

    Incredible video. My eyes became shiny towards the end. I hope we can still save Aerith somehow but even if that's not the direction of the new narrative... I'm awaiting how Cloud interacts with Aerith in his imaginative state. I like them as a couple so any more interactions with Cloud and Aerith are treasured for me.

    • @fire1ice1
      @fire1ice1 2 месяца назад +3

      Mine too 🥹

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you so much for the touching complement.
      I also really, really hope she is able to enjoy life things at Journey's End!
      And thank you for watching!

    • @tonymaccaroni1683
      @tonymaccaroni1683 Месяц назад +1

      It's a feeling...just a feeling that I have...that this time things will play out differently. "That the future, even if it has been written, can be changed"
      Aerith doesn't lie, she has good reasons to believe what she is trying to convey, and so do I. I am hopeful and I trust, that the story's buildup will pay off in the end. I believe that the devs have cooked an ending for part 3, that will leave us speechless.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  Месяц назад +1

      @@tonymaccaroni1683 We resonate very much, especially on what the geniuses have prepared for the finale.
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @randybear932
    @randybear932 2 месяца назад +17

    I hope for PS6 they remaster all three games and either release as a collection or somehow make them into one massive game ☺️

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +2

      Same here! 4k resolution at 60 fps, would be spectacular.
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @jennahanks3032
    @jennahanks3032 2 месяца назад +9

    I never noticed that Cloud doesn't see the black feather! Interestiiiiiiiiing

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +1

      Very interesting! I only noticed on a replay of that moment.
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @shonenmc
    @shonenmc 2 месяца назад +7

    You've done it again!
    The lifestream in the putting cloud together sequence being the same design as the torn world is a wild discovery. And I completely missed that cloud didn't see the feather fall during the dream date.
    I'm interested in seeing how the theme of memory plays into this solipsistic dreamers create world narrative. And its interplay with the idea of Fate. 10x more interesting than the og's and finally deep diving into how the world of ff7 truly works.
    . I thought meteor just came out of nowhere in the og and they missed some opportunities. I think the being doomed theme will hit significantly harder this time around

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! 🙏
      I am also keen to observe how memory and Cloud's redemption plays out with reunion nigh and god like dreamers! So much so a future video will be dedicated to this.
      I agree that the feels will hit really hard, possibly insanely hard, in 2-3 years!
      Thank you for watching!

  • @MrTRex-pu6pd
    @MrTRex-pu6pd 2 месяца назад +10

    😢 Intense finis to your vid. Hits home

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for the complement! And thank you for watching!

  • @Edu_Hi_FTW
    @Edu_Hi_FTW 2 месяца назад +11

    This thing going on with Cloud, it feels a lot like Anakin in Revenge of the Sith. I'm thinking that scene when Palpatine explains Darth Plagueis this Wise and immortality.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +2

      I get a similar eery vibe.
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @franny_frantastic
    @franny_frantastic 2 месяца назад +12

    Cloud carries the burden of a universe of creation??? zomg...

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +8

      This was pointed out to me. In the Ultimania (Kindle version at least), in a blog on the Edge of Creation it's mentioned that Sephiroth carries the burden of the universe of death, and Cloud carries the burden of the universe of creation.
      zomg x 7777777!
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

    • @user-qz4ck1me4l
      @user-qz4ck1me4l 2 месяца назад +4

      How do I not know this?! Like wow.

    • @franny_frantastic
      @franny_frantastic 2 месяца назад +3

      @@dreamphoenix ... Ima go take a cold bath now. This whole dream weaver thing might actually... bath time!

  • @Drw-id-Kirin
    @Drw-id-Kirin 2 месяца назад +6

    "Everything is more beautiful...because we are doomed."
    BREATHE IT, BROTHER.
    Let Doom consume you. It is the power of power itself.
    RETURN TO US IN DARKNESS. FOR WE SHALL BURN BRIGHTEST FOR ETERNITY.
    SHEOL AND HELL A PASSING MEMORY.
    VICTORY OVER FLESH, METAL, AND SOUL.
    RIP AND TEAR.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      :) Amen!
      Thank you for watching and for the sermon!

  • @force-1-nature
    @force-1-nature 2 месяца назад +4

    Zack in Rebirth is a leaf in the wind. So happy he had at least one good scene right at the end.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      How much Zack has to struggle to even do anything is hauntingly touching, and truly haunting at the same time.
      Thank you for watching and the comment!

  • @Foxheimer
    @Foxheimer 2 месяца назад +5

    Always a pleasure to watch your video and then trying to improve my English lol.
    I wanna ask you something about the end scene of the game.
    Sorry if you already brought the topic in a previous video.
    What’s your take on The fact that Aerith is not impacted by the environment surrounding her when she walks around her friends (when the tiny broncos engine blows out Cait sith’s cap is moving but not Aerith hair or clothes and she only reacts when she sees Barret and Cait reacting) but she is by the end when the Tiny bronco’s is ready to take off.
    Knowing that all that scene is seen trough Cloud’s eyes. It’s like Cloud sees her because of his new « ability » but the devs tricks us by adding the prism of a word/conscientiousness where she is dead (she is presented to us like a ghost) and then they show her trough the prism of a word she is alive interacting with her environment. But it would mean the tiny bronco exist in this reality too ? What about the rest of the party ?
    Odd stuff during the end credit the last screens we see of the party is during the boss fight’s cut scene, the last time we see cloud is when he is holding Aerith in his arms. They skip all the lake scene and only show Aerith for the last shoot. It made me wondering if something happen to them during the boss fight.
    Thank you

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +2

      You've hit upon a key detail that I will get into in a later Ending Deep Dive.
      It's definitely of notice that Aerith's physical manifestation doesn't respond to the engine blow out, but does respond to whirring of the blades. What's especially interesting is that her physical manifestation responds to the wind the whole time. And she is able to maintain manifestation even after Cloud has flown scores of kilometres away.... :)
      It's as if worlds are being brought together, like a reunion.
      Thank you for watching and for the in depth comment!

    • @Foxheimer
      @Foxheimer 2 месяца назад +2

      @@dreamphoenix Nice. It’s like she doesn’t make sound but at other moments we hear her footsteps.
      Did you notice that when Cloud starts watching her we don’t see Tifa and Nanaki in the background despite the fact that we can identify the spot they are sitting on when Aerith is close to them. Then she looks up to Cloud and he sees the 3 of them. It maybe just a mistake, they forget to add them in the background or they took a sit after the beginning of the scene.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Foxheimer I'll have to watch for that specifically as I definitely didn't notice. If you don't mind, could you give me an idea of when are Tifa and Nanaki not in Cloud's view?
      Thank you for the keen observations!

    • @Foxheimer
      @Foxheimer 2 месяца назад +1

      No problem
      I used the video from Gamersprey
      ruclips.net/video/ihInCPBf5QY/видео.html
      At 0:27 Cloud starts watching Aerith and we don't see them.
      At 1:39 He sees them
      And I'm almost 100% sure their spot is already entirely visible at 0:27 probably a mistake but a big one.

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад +2

      @@Foxheimer Wow! Just watched and you are absolutely right. Tifa and Nanaki also aren't visible at 0:11, the wide angel shot from Cloud's perspective. But once Cloud notices them as Aerith walks to their position, they remain in view.
      Though Yuffie could easily be blocked by Cloud's head, she also isn't visible from Cloud's initial perspectives.
      This could be a mistake, but as:
      At 0:48 Cloud can clearly be seen in the background, and all the rocks and flowers match location between perspectives, and considering this is SE whose engineers spent many hours figuring out the train schedule for all of Midgar so that the timing of trains in Remake was holistic... I'd wager this isn't a mistake. And the implications are alarming.
      Thank you so very much for bringing this into my attention!
      You mentioned that there is a point where Aerith's footsteps can't be heard, when they should; when does this occur?
      Thank you again!

  • @user-db8yg2sx4o
    @user-db8yg2sx4o 2 месяца назад +2

    What is decision point? Spot where timeline splits?

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      Exactly that! The point in space and time on which the divergent worlds are based.
      I use 'decision' because choice and action seems to be the most common progenitor for worlds.
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @WintersChosen
    @WintersChosen 2 месяца назад +1

    The tension builds! Kinda like in Remake, the deeper one looks the more profound the struggles and beauties one finds. Such an awesome journey

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      I 100% resonate. My analogy is the first time the Twin Slit experiment was conducted, and the realm of quantum physics was conceived. Holy !?! :)
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @tundra-queen-sled-god
    @tundra-queen-sled-god 2 месяца назад +6

    OOOoOoOoOooO

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      Thank you! Thank you for watching and for the comment!

  • @holy9781
    @holy9781 2 месяца назад +1

    I love convaluted middle games lmao

    • @dreamphoenix
      @dreamphoenix  2 месяца назад

      lol!
      Thank you for watching and for the comment!