Cloud being in love with Aerith for 23 minutes straight |
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2024
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As I mentioned in another comment. Details! These little details show that Cloud AND Aerith are a couple made for each other. Not everyone is able to see this and even if they do, they deny it by coming up with idiotic theories. As a psychologist, I am really full of appreciation of how wonderfully the developers recreated the body language, facial expressions of two people in love with each other. The gestures, the glances, the behavior of Cloud who is simply nervous and shy around Aerith. She, in turn, knowing his behavior, constantly breaks down this wall and allows him to open up to her. Those who think it's one sided love or simple friendship or the behavior of brother and sister have never been in love, never felt butterflies in their stomachs. This romantic tale could not be better presented. I think in 3 years there will be a happy ending for this couple.
I couldn't have said it better myself!!! Very well said... there is something very special and unique between Cloud and Aerith.
But I also confess that I'm afraid for part 3... afraid that fanservice and the desire of other fans might lead Square to make certain decisions... I hope I'm wrong
I just hope Square doesn't waste this fantastic relationship I've built up between Cloud and Aerith... it would be a lifelong pain for me not to see a moment of resolution between the two.
So far, SE has stayed faithful to the OG -- CxA are non-optional canon, while CxT are optional fan-service -- Tifa was always a date option in the OG, but Aerith's date has always been default / canon -- yet again in Rebirth, the #clerith date is canon due to Aerith playing Rosa in 4/6 plays -- personally, I think SE is baiting clawti's in with fan-service to then show them that they were wrong about canon / the main narrative (which is has always & forever been Cloud x Aerith since 1997) @@francisco24slb1
But isn't it weird that there's an optional kiss between Cloud and Tifa? If Aerith and Cloud are canon why isn't there a kiss between the two?@@JShroy
@@francisco24slb1because from a storytelling standpoint it's too soon for their relationship to have a major climax moment like that. Aerith's fate still needs to be secured. Cloud's mind is still fragmented. It's like if Sophie and Howl kissed before he got his heart back from Calcifer & Sophie found her confidence. It's not "earned" yet.
So do you believe it will happen in the 3rd game?@@hippiefarts
'They're just thoughts. Let them be 'dark and ugly'; you're not.'
For a non-romantic, that's one heck of a beautiful line.
That line in of itself solidified even further that Cloud and Aerith is endgame
WHY DOES THIS FICTIONAL COUPLE BRING ME SO MUCH JOY
IT'S OK, IT BRINGS ME HAPPINESS AS WELL!!
Because it's too obvious that they were made for each other ❤
Exactly
@@divinearia1601 Zack: Heh-um😒
@@litepaw7...Sorry, but Zack and Aerith are alike in more ways, especially in personality, and are just not as complimentary in the sense that they complete each other/make one another whole. I feel the same about Cloud/Tifa.
19:06 the way she restores your HP and MP when she shows up… “you would appear, reach out to me / heal every wound and make me whole” :’)
Nice attention to details!😮
holy shit
Where’s that quote from?
@@finleymorris04 these are quoted from the song "Hollow", the main theme for Remake^-^.
Cloud be like: “as soon as I kill Sephiroth I’m permanently going to the world where Aerith is still alive”
Funny. I also thought in the ending when Cloud mumbled "reunion" is where he was determined about something.
cloud pulling a steve rogers?
Cloud has always shown interest for Aerith’s safety. It wouldn’t surprise me that Cloud after defeating Sephiroth goes back to her. Additionally, he says “I’ll keep an eye out.”
🥹🥹🥹 his romance is so sweet.
@@rubicolin4692what means “Ill keep an eye out” for you?
@@LeocaprioDinardo that he’s alert to whatever Aerith does.
23 minutes??? Damm let’s go enjoy clerith fam
You have no idea how happy I am that this exists 😍
Tifas video is over an hour
@@Padfoot-ji9qb and aerith's full without cuts is about 10 min longer. And the tifa compilations are 9 min in total with 2 videos, and this one is 23 in just one video.
Total time means nothing and in EVERY way Aerith's is also longer.
Hey mate, Can I join?
Another important thing is that How complicated their relationship is. Aerith loves him but, knowing her future, she will not tell him directly and will always hold back so that he does not suffer even more after her death. Cloud, on the other hand, as you know, is not a person who likes to talk about his feelings, besides, this is his first romance and a person does not always know how to behave in such a new situation. He is what he is. On the other hand, the fact that he is also in love with her, the game shows us in various ways. Often not apparent at first glance. Those who fully understand the story will understand their relationship. It is complicated, not literal, sad and cruel for the sake of the future.
YEAHHH IT'S HERE THE GREATEST LOVE STORY OF OUR TIME RETURNS
Ever since the awkward visit to Zack's parents Cloud became unsure if the girl he's falling in love with feels the same about him.He's thinking about this even if you got Tifa's date. But then near the end of the game, during Aerith's GS date and the beginning of ch14, Cloud finally understood they have mutual feelings for each other and promised Aerith that they'll make more memories together next time. Just when Cloud thought he was about to start a new chapter of his life with Aerith, fate took everything away from him. Such a beautiful yet bittersweet love story but I believe Cloud can make things right in part 3 and reunite with Aerith.
Fuck AT LAST someone that understood what really happened in (me?) Gongaga.
@LeocaprioDinardo What do other people think happened in gongaga? Was it not obvious Cloud really wanted to know if Aerith still likes Zack and was obviously showing jealousy?
@@Clarity696 yeah but lof of (biased) people twisted lot of moments including this one.
Imo is clear that when Cloud, after that, gets closer to Tifa in that scene is because he, after wrongly thinking Aerith still liked Zack, thought he had ZERO chance with her.
@LeocaprioDinardo Obviously biased people will be biased. But I honestly don't think Cloud thought he's got zero chance after this scene he just became way less confident. I also didn't notice him trying to get closer with Tifa after this scene, aside from the end of chapter 9 since he almost killed her on accident.
@@Clarity696 I think you forgot the non optional scene by the end of the chapter where Cloud and Tifa almost kiss but they were interrupted.
Imo this was a sign of Cloud accepting he had no chance with Aerith after he missunderstood she still liked Zack.
Here me out - people are pissed that Tifa's date ended in a kiss and Aerith's didn’t. BUT when you factor in the song Aerith wrote about Cloud that she performed right before the skywheel, the hand-holding guesture actually says A LOT more. By holding her hand he's non-verbally doing exactly what she said in the song, 'Take my hand and believe we can be together ever more.' He's telling her without words that he knows that was directed at him and he's reciprocating. Basically saying yes I want to be together evermore. That's why he's so nervous, because it's so meaningful. Sure, their date could have ended in a kiss, but would it have been SO MEANINGFUL? Would it have communicated that Cloud wants to be with Aerith forever more?
Her not kissing Cloud as of this moment is a good thing for the story. Because it flows nicely to when they hold hands together as lovers after defeating Sephiroth. If they had shared a kiss it would not have been consistent with the story. They just are not there yet and the devs are playing the long game in developing them further. It was intentional imo. We will see in Part 3.
For the record, I’m not pissed. The devs know what they’re doing. We Cleriths play the long game when it comes to romance.
Please cloud and Aerith compliment each other so welllll 😭😭 they’re memories > their chemistry > THEM >
Fun fact, usually when people are listing their reasons for something they list them in order from the least important to the most important, so when Aerith says "Its about saving the world... and you" deliberately separating cloud from the whole big world, she is saying that, for her, he is more important.
Actually in japan ver, she only says “this materia is to save the world” but up to this point they clearly fall for each other deeply.
@@dustinjowen4427 I see, didn't know there would be a discrepancy in the translation, but alas the point still should be on the table, they both seem infatuated with each other deeply as things stand
@@hugosampaio2178 Don't worry, in the japanese version, the thank you she says to Cloud has a heavy lovers (as in, something a person who loves another would say) connotation. I guess they wanted to contextualize the scene as romantic even if subtleties like that are lost in translation.
@@slayer1156 Nice, they deserve to be endgame, truth be told it's like, tifa is the childhood friend and aerith is the trasfered student
Damn, it feels like christmas day, new clerith.
We have the same pfp
Can you imagine if Cloud said this:
Cloud: I love you, I love you in every universe.
Then he kisses her in a non-optional kiss. Okay I know this will never gonna happen, but, let me dream, lol 😂
🥹😢
@bia_kawaii, don't worry, it will be happen in the last part 3 🥰💖
I Hope !!!
@@aisyahmulberry1064 maybe it actually will since she's alive in another timeline but probably not tbh
Like this comment if you think Cloud and Aerith are soulmates!
That scene after meeting Zack's parents in Gongaga, they made canon the jealousy option, the option that required very high affection poitns with Aerith.
She just keeps on winning
They’re literally star crossed tragic soulmates THROUGHOUT TIME AND UNIVERSES. Their romance it’s such a narrative masterpiece and so intertwined in the main story of this game it’s insane.
While I know in the OG timeline, ultimately, Cloud and Tifa are a couple, I suspect the reason for that is that, defying fate, has Aerith surviving, they were the couple meant to be. The one concerning Tifa and Cloud may just have been the result of trauma bonding. Two major events (the destruction of Nibelheim and the death of Aerith) that changed the course of their lives, they experienced together. They were both there when they happened. And I think it is still rather undeniable that as a teenager, Cloud had very deep feelings for Tifa, and just never felt worthy of her. Tifa was the opposite of Cloud. She was the center of attention in Nibelheim, undoubtedly the object of affection with most of her circle, if not all of them, while Cloud was quiet, reserved, and standoffish, perhaps jealous or envious of Tifa.
For those of you who never played the OG, I'm not going to say anymore except that the truth does come out, assuming the 3rd installment follows the basic plot of FF7.
What I think might have been better for the story, because you may have noticed the different worlds have certain differences, one of the most obvious being the Shinra Pooch mascot Stamp (he's a beagle in one, a terrier in the other), in the OG Aerith was called "Aeris". Maybe them keeping that in would have made a little more sense, too. Certain elements would have to change...
@@mr.e1026 they're kinda not though. They're more like roommates in Advent Children. He could never forgive himself for, or move on from Aerith, not until the end, anyway.
@@PlasticLawnDaemon You know, it's kinda why I said this: "I suspect the reason for that is that, defying fate, has Aerith surviving, they were the couple meant to be."
Not all couples live happily ever after. And I didn't even comment on the strength of this relationship, because it was a strained one, particularly for all the reason I stated. Cloud had the Geostigma following the events of the OG game, and stayed away from people as a result, including Tifa. What would you do if you has a disease of unknown origin and you had no idea how to cure it or how it spreads or what would eventually happen at the end of it, would you hang all over the people you care about, and maybe infect them with it, too?? I wouldn't.
And Cloud has overwhelming feelings of guilt over the death of Aerith. That is a touchy issue. She obviously didn't die of natural causes; she got her belly button pierced by Sephiroth's Masamune. Cloud clearly has a confidence problem. While he was the one who killed Sephiroth in Nibelheim 5 years prior to the OG when no one else, including Zack couldn't, he is also the reason Zack had a leg iron on himself the entire trip back to Midgar. Zack could have gotten to Midgar WAY before he did if Cloud wasn't nearly comatose from Mako poisoning, and if he was with Zack when Zack died, the two of them might have been able to prevail. Was that Cloud's fault? No. But it doesn't matter to him. Advent Children fleshes that out pretty early. He felt unworthy of Tifa, even as a kid, and especially now. As much as I love Tifa, she wasn't the one Cloud would have chosen between her and Aerith. It became a thing because Aerith was swept from the board.
I agree Cloud and Tifa is a relationship that is really flimsy. We don't really know if it improves, or fractures, really, because the last installment on the timeline, Dirge of Cerberus doesn't exactly have much to do with Cloud or Tifa. Tifa clearly feels like Cloud is pushing her away, and Cloud has a confidence problem. Cloud is even told by Aerith in Advent Children he needs to stop feeling guilty about that. Even Aerith is rooting for Cloud and Tifa beyond the grave.
@@mr.e1026 I tend to agree for the most part, I think a fair amount of people miss the particulars of Cloud and Tifa's childhood relationship. They're not childhood friends, they know each other from childhood, there's a difference.
Cloud feeling unworthy is only half of it. Yes, she's his childhood crush, the popular pretty girl, but the other kids excluded him, and she was "too cool for him" for the most part. This isn't meant to cheapen what comes after though, they form a bond with each other later on, but it is what it is.
Aerith and Cloud are star-crossed soulmates, there's no scenario where she's in the equation and Cloud chooses Tifa over her. None.
But she dies. Tifa and Cloud bond over both the shared trauma of Aerith's death, and (finally) over the shared trauma of losing everything 5 years prior.
This is why I find the Clerith vs Cloti shipping war so toxic and tiresome. It doesn't matter. IHad Aerith lived, they'd be together. But she didn't, so he gets closer with Tifa, and as you say, she roots for him and Tifa from beyond the grave, because of course she does, that's who she is.
They'll reunite when Cloud's time comes to return to the planet, but until then he has a life to live, and she wants more than anything, for Cloud to be happy.
One doesn't cheapen or negate the other.
@@PlasticLawnDaemon I suspect Tifa would have been a childhood friend of his. Nibelheim wasn't that big and there is no way Cloud NEVER talked to Tifa as a kid. The biggest reason they weren't was because of Cloud. That's it. Tifa would have been ok with him being in her circle.
I'm loathe to continue commenting about Nibelheim circa 5 years earlier in order to keep from exposing a spoiler that the OG game time line explains, regarding Cloud and Tifa as kids, but one part that the game absolutely did reveal so far is, Cloud DID tell Tifa he was leaving Midgar. She did open up to him somewhat.
But that said, When they were kids, there was no Aerith, yet. Cloud didn't even know Aerith through Zack at that point.
What I suspect, and always have suspected, even in 1997 was, a relationship between Cloud and Tifa was doomed with Aerith in the picture. Too much had happened with Tifa and Cloud. They both experienced traumas that were too likely to poison a relationship. I mean, imagining the woman you love in theory also reminding you of the worst day of your life when your mother was killed, your village was burned to the ground by someone you looked up to, and you saw her probably dead from a slash wound sustained by that person you held in such high regard? Or being Tifa where you remind her of many of the same things, including watching her father die, being nearly killed yourself....
None of that was present with Aerith. It was a clean slate. And Tifa was a bit more hardened than Aerith. Aerith had a certain vulnerability that Tifa didn't. Aerith really didn't hate anyone except maybe Hojo (confirmed!!). Tifa was full of hate, though. And let's assume for a minute Zack actually SURVIVED the attack outside Midgar. What if the Turks found him dying. I mean they were looking for him, and Tseng did order the Turks to protect Zack and Cloud. What if Zack was found dying, was retrieved by the Turks and was taken to a medical facility to restore him to health, and he rejoined the story before Aerith is killed? Chances are, Zack would have prevailed with Aerith, not Cloud. Then what? It's kind of difficult to get close to a woman when she is as guarded as Tifa.
Cloud and Tifa are a tragic love story, in that, there seems little hope of a lasting bond, due to the circumstances surrounding how the bond really formed to begin with. Could they have made a good couple?? Maybe. A power couple?? Hell no.
"The spot" they talked about = the same spot as Cloud indicated as "my place" to Tifa in the novel.
20:07
This moment is so heartbreaking and beautiful. After the fighting died down, Cloud finally got a moment to just BE with Aerith. The music is soft, his touch is soft, his voice, their mutual smiles. None of their friends are present, it’s truly just the two of them sharing a moment of connection. Aerith and Cloud will never beat the star crossed lovers allegations.
And what is the best thing about this is that this Aerith is alive. Cloud breached the fate and created a parallel world where he saved her.
@@AnonymousBesserwisser Did he, though? Or is it just his broken mind conjuring a false reality as a coping mechanism?
@@imveryangryitsnotbutterit’s a parallel timeline. So many scenes and evidence points toward this. We legit follow Zack in multiple scenes where he himself creates different timelines by making different decisions. Zack is alive in some form in at least one of them. Clouds mind is fragmented, no doubt, but this entire remake was set up with the objective of “defying fate” and it makes no sense to have it all just be in Cloud’s mind at this point.
@@Karyna_isabelle Yep. Too much evidence for parallel world. Cloud saved Aerith. That is certain.
Now that Cloud managed to breach the fate and created a parallel world where he saved Aerith's life everything is now possible in part 3. These two belong together.
Ninguém é de ninguém.
right
I mean what's that about, in saving Aerith or creating a parallel world at another crossroads of fate, did we save her, is cloud not crazy and is actually perceiving aerith through all worlds meanwhile the others can't because they weren't there at the crossroads, and does that mean that we still have a chance to save her. one can only hope, part 3 will finish things
@@bradkeen9760 Cloud already saved her. Main world Aerith is dead but she is alive in parallel world. Cloud breached the fate that was supposed to be fixed but when he blocked Sephiroth's masamune that created another world where he saved Aerith's life. Cloud who held Aerith after the ending fight and asked her to wake up was not main world Cloud but Cloud from this new parallel world.
@@AnonymousBesserwisserthey introduced her again and made her fight Sephiroth alongside you to ground this idea, that she is still alive. Somewhere, somehow.
Fascinating, what part of these two games made you believe this to be the case? I played both games as a normal FF7 fan. And I’m a guy. I also played Crisis Core. I don’t see this at all. If this is personal preference thats fine. But its also painful to see..
Funny enough there is even stuff in TIFA centered events. In Tifa's chapter 8 gold saucer date if they talk to Aerith she says how, after seeing them on a 'date' she thinks she should find somebody to go with. Cloud VERY SUDDENLY says 'No you shouldn't do that'. There's a bit more, a great video called "CLOUD BEING JEALOUS FOR 5 Mins captures it all
I've seen the video. The edit was also funny😂
Just watched that myself those edits were gold😂
It's the same in part 1, too. When you check on Tifa, she asks Cloud if he's sure there isn't something more going on with Aerith. He gets flustered and doesn't deny it. In Tifa's secret cutscene, she mentions how she knew something was going on between them. Again, Cloud doesn't deny it. When Aerith asks Cloud if Tifa is his gf, he immediately denies it and even seems defensive about it.
@@salazar556 I do find it interesting that that line of dialogue isn't a choice anymore(with either Yes!!! or Heck no!!!!) same thing with Gongaga there isn't a choice between jealous... envious... and that's too bad instead jealousy is what Cloud displays period.
Making optional dialogue non optional/canon in this trilogy tells me that the devs are pointing to a canon ending (won’t be open/optional ending) and a canon love interest
THEY ARE PEAK ROMANCE 💘
#1 of all-time forever & ever -- the OTP of all OTPs
cloud and tifa don’t feel like it’s working for me areith and cloud date work more for me
I'm replaying the story again. I reached the part in Gongaga and i noticed an important detail that makes everything make more sense in the context knowing what happens between Cloud, Tifa and Aerith for the rest of the game.
I'm playing the spanish version which uses a translation based directly on the japanese one. When Cloud and Aerith talk about Zack and Cloud is VISIBLY jelaous when he asks Aerith is she still likes Zack, in this version she doesn't says "maybe" she says "yes" (but not in a strong manner), and then the "he didn't give me any reason not to". Cloud looks pissed about that answer and starts acting insecure, blasting Zack inmediately after.
From this moment, this puts Cloud in a situation of insecurity about how Aerith reciprocates his feelings. Until that moment he probably thought there was really something between the both of them, but "what if not.....".
It's after that moment that his insecurities about Aerith start allowing Tifa come closer to him and just not long after they have that moment after getting back from the reactor. It's like he's starting to accept some kind of "defeat" and that maybe he needs to move on.
In Cosmo Canyon in their side mission about taking photos of the stars, after the selfie, he wants to ask her something personal, but he stops. He's still clearly insecure and confused about how Aerith thinks of him.
Then we have the golden saucer date. And now i see better what the story is telling if you choose Aerith or Tifa there. If you have the date with Tifa it only ends solidifying Cloud mistakenly thinking he has no chances with Aerith because she really prefers Zack. He brought Aerith to the conversation and after Tifa's response he is hearbroken. So now, he is around this beautiful girl, who is his friend from his childhood, who he clearly likes too, and then he says to himself in the heat of the moment...."well, maybe this is what it needs to happen" and they kiss and then they left the wheel clearly embarrassed about it as if something was not quite right.
But then you have the "dream date" with Aerith, and Cloud learns the real truth. Aerith does indeed likes him too. You can see how in their date Cloud is slowly accepting what is happening. Clouds doubts from earlier in the story are disappearing and when Aerith admits her feelings to him, you can see in Cloud's face that this makes him happy and how relieved he is to hear that.
If you had the date with Aerith in golden saucer, all of this is just not that ambiguous. It only serves to make Cloud realise Aerith maybe feels the same sooner, and only getting confirmation in that "dream scene". It's more like a conventional romance story that just focuses on two characters. But with the Tifa date route, the story clearly goes to the "love triangle" drama kind of story more. It doesn't matter because in both cases Cloud ends up realizing Aerith real feelings. And that's why the love song is in the credits. It's unavoidable. The cards are already in the table.
If i'm right in my impressions, i think i can visualize how the 3rd part is going to end this part of the story...
Yeah 100% this. The game all the way showing and telling us that it is pushing forward to the end only relationship Between Cloud and Aerith. Last couple of hours proved that.Maybe that's why Aerith wrote a song for Cloud. Because she saw hesitation in him after Gongaga scene? And she want to show him that she loves him. Honestly i didn't notice it until now .I'm curious your theory about 3 part.
even in the OG when you talk to Aerith after entering zack's parent house, the option prompt for cloud is 1.Poor guy 2.(...jealous...envious). Cloud has been jealous about it since the OG, it just people memory holed it so they can ship cloud with tifa.
@@Speechless84 In short:
In gold saucer you are not deciding between romancing Tifa or Aerith, that choice is made by Cloud, what you're really choosing is a love triangle story or a basic romance story.
But both will end the same way.
Man reading it like this Tifa doesn't deserve to be second place and a consolation prize because of Cloud's insecurity and inability to just ask Aerith directly instead of making assumptions... Well since I can't do that to Tifa gotta pick Aerith right?
In all seriousness this is an interesting reading of the Tifa route and not one I'd have made on my own.
@@CrazyxEnigma Like always this is only an interpretation.
I don't know, maybe i'm wrong and Square Enix comes tomorrow and says that in the "dream date" scene when Aerith confesses her love to Cloud, in reality, is not only about Cloud, is really about her loved ones, Zack, Tifa, Elmyra, Barret, specially Barret....who knows....
Or of course all of this theory is bullshit because from the start Aerith was fake and in reality was Jenova disguised so in reality Aerith never liked Cloud, and Cloud feelings are false.
Who knows.....😅
Oh we’re so back.
It will never be Jenover ✊
Idc. I cried. I love aeriths character, her optimism, her assertiveness, her glow, she just lights up the room anywhere she goes. She hides her burdens on their last date because she sees that Cloud was so close to breaking, she gave him them what they both wanted, a date, walking in the sector 5 slums. Her home, where she feels safe under the steel sky. A place for the both of them. And Cloud, finally dropping the act he got up, knowing that Aerith is hiding something but not pushing to hard cuz he knows hes not gonna get it out of her. Hes the dorky and awkward fun typa guy, hes who aerith wants to be with at that moment, the guy who lacks social etiquette - but that also makes him weirdly cute and wholesome. Its jus beautiful is all, and theres so much more i wanna say about it 😭
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She’s a real queen.
We all know this is the preferred ship
For me in the ending it felt like cloud was saying that after he kills sephiroth, hes still going to come and find her, and they will be together again. I don't know if I'm seeing this correctly or not, but when they are officially saying bye at the end and cloud tells her "I will stop sephiroth, trust me", and when they make their promise, it looked like yellow lily petals are blowing through the wind. I'm not sure if those are just some generic yellow flower petals though. If they are lily petals and they symbolize reunion, I feel like it really is a possibility that they will be together again in the next game. Along with the almost kissing scenes, it feels like they're building to them kissing because when they finally do it will be grand. Like how they do with story telling in movies and shows. I'm really hoping for this to be true in the next game!!
this! ❤
So how do you feel about Aerith saying “I like you, but liking.. and liking are two different things are they?” or the fact that he constantly refers to them as friends. And why the GS date lacked any tension. Genuinely curious. I would die inside if my SO suddenly uttered that line about liking and liking being two different things. Like thats not what you want to hear you know 😂
@@mikev8746thought she was gonna friend zone him right there lol
Absolutely!
"And if I said I wasn't? " was callback to remake playground scene.
("I'll go with you...")
The devs need to save the tension & mystery for pt.3. We just have to buy pt.3 to get her back!
There's so many clues everywhere. I think the yellow flowers symbolize fate. Cloud clutches petal to his chest in No Promises to Keep...Zack let's go of petal in finale. In remake... whispers tell Aerith, "Follow the yellow flowers, they say." ❤
@@potatofun3328 Oh you poor soul..
Honestly, this is better than all of those "all cloud and aerith moments" videos I've seen on RUclips
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I also find zack very cute in Rebirth. when he finds out that aerith likes cloud his reaction is not angry, he just processes it, looks a little sad but ends up accepting it. it's kind of sad for me cause I loved their dynamic in crisis core, but i love that he's not an jerk who hates Aerith just because she likes someone else (like many of his fans and #them)
Zack is great person. Cloud and Aerith need him. So I think he will have a very big role to reunite them
@@Speechless84 AM SAYIIIING, hes so sweet!! i hope to see zack interacting with aerith and cloud after all that happened, i hope in pt 3 they at least have a conversation TT
Zack on his way to become their biggest shipper: "I am speed!"
as we can see, Zack seems to accepting the fact that Aerith likes Cloud.
I am keeping my fingers crossed that Zach and Cissnai will meet up again and get together in the future lol
13:32 im honestly so happy you pointed this out. Ive seen so many people be like "he spent the date calling her weird" and im like "okay, but how are you ignoring the fact that he clearly wanted their date to go well?"
exactly! and the only reason he’s pointing out that she’s not acting like her usual self is cause he wants to know what’s bothering her, cause he, yknow, really cares about her!!
It blows my mind that people are trying to say “she made him uncomfortable” in this scene. Lol no?? If he was uncomfortable, he wouldn’t keep asking her to talk to him, wouldn’t keep *encouraging* the date (he pointed out the photo op!), wouldn’t be disappointed over his gift not getting picked or them winning the photo. He wouldn’t say “next time.”
He was enjoying himself-the only issue was that he could tell Aerith was not herself, that she wasn’t truly happy, and he wanted to fix it.
who are the mfs who said that?
@@willowkat27reason why he is asking her that because he knows something is bothering her.
@@huh3085 yep, exactly. It’s not because he was uncomfortable being there lol.
Final Fantasy 7 wouldnt be Final Fantasy 7 without this ship.
#clerith is the OTP of all OTPs
Yeah the more i'm into the franchise the more i come to realize that the core of FF7 is about Cloud, Aerith and Sephiroth
@@StevenZJ you mean like a threesome ?
Nearly all the spinoffs end with them meeting, waiting or on the way to meeting again...
Naah yall trippin, Clack and Aerti are the true and based ships ;)
THAT “Aerith will no longer talk..” TEXT BUBBLE OVER CLOUD TAKING PHOTOS AS MEMORIES IS SO UNNECESSARY BROO I CRIEEEEDD LIKE A BABY 💀💀💀💀
I literally said out loud “then why did you do this to us?”
CLERITH ALL THE WAY!
I so want to see Cloud and Aerith reunite in the last game... I really do!!!
PLEASE SQUARE !!!!!
NO, dont listen that man !! Dead characters must stay dead, unless you want to destroy the meaning of this death and all the drama of the story with a happy ending for spoiled children
@@chevalierbaleine4894We all know that the plot is different from the original. It's not the same game anymore
@@Nat_the_White_Mage It's not a question of changing the plot bro. Bringing dead people back to life is just the worst decision, it breaks the meaning of their death and all the sacrifices that the characters endured, the essence of the story of FF7 was originally serious, but everything it's going to be completely destroyed to satisfy the egos of people who live in their own fanfiction
@@chevalierbaleine4894 I would recommend being more careful in choosing words. There are many people who have waited over 25 years to see history change (myself included). You can be sure that during this time I understood the meaning of her death and sacrifice, without even having the hope that her fate could be changed in any way. Now, when the opportunity arises, I can even be called a spoiled child. And i know it's not just my own fanfiction
@@Nat_the_White_Mage Oh I know I also dreamed of this game since 97, I was also amazed to see a new writing arrive when I knew that the remake was on the way, but to change the essence of what marked so much the people, no, that's more of a nightmare that I hadn't envisaged and I know perfectly well that there are a lot of us who think like that and don't want that. Sorry that you felt insulted, that wasn't the intention, but I really mean what I said.
Can't wait for the reunion of the Flower girl and her bodyguard ❤
This game validated 20 years of being a Cleirth shipper.
She looked so sad walking away from him at the ending. It really broke my heart to see her smiling as she turned around to look at him. She only says goodbye after they've left, leaving her behind.
Cloud trusts Aerith to be by herself for the moment because he believes in her strength. Was it not the two of them that forcefully made Sephiroth kneel and made him tactically retreat during the final battle? Aerith is not weak. She was raised in the slums and can handle herself and focus on stopping Meteor while Cloud can concentrate on stopping Sephiroth. But yes she is very sad to part ways with Cloud because that’s her friend and lover. The ending is actually a happy one because she is seen smiling looking at the sky. Whereas before this, during the ending of Remake, she didn’t like seeing the sky. She is alive in a new world. That’s why the game is called Rebirth. Its referred to what Cloud did for Aerith when he parried Sephiroth’s blade. A new world where Aerith is alive and well.
I love the scene in the church when Aerith tells Cloud that she likes him. You can read so much in Cloud's tiny facial expressions and the way he's talking to her; it's insane.
At first he looks relatively open and relaxed, like he had a fun date and almost forgot about her weird behavior.
He even goes as far as to tell her the "next time" line. Which is kind of huge for him, since it is basically him actively asking Aerith on another date... and it's completely unprompted by Aerith, same as the photo op earlier in the chapter which was already quite a cutesy and clearly couple-y activity.
He's trying so hard, but also just the way he says this is simply amazing.
Sure, the first time the line is delivered he is not looking at her, apart from one really quick glance before staring straight at the flower bed again. As if he realized there's no way he can say what he wants to say while looking at her cause he's too chicken to see her reaction.
And when he does speak, there is that tiny pause after him saying "well", gearing himself up to the rest of it and trying his best to sound as nonchalant as possible although he is still clearly nervous regardless.
Because he's basically (lowkey) throwing out his feelings and intentions in the open and while he gained enough confidence during their date earlier to even attempt this, he probably still has that little fear of rejection that stuck with him all the way since their interaction about Zack in Gongaga.
But then Aerith playfully asks for confirmation and it's like a switch has been flipped. As if he knows that she's been waiting for him to make a move and he doesn't waste any time doubling down and confirming his intentions. There are no nervous pauses, no "uh"s or awkward "yep"s or any stuttering whatsoever.
Suddenly he looks at her and seems confident and content. Even his voice sounds so much happier than before. At that point he's sure she'll agree to go on that date with him and it shows.
But then she starts with that confession thing, which he clearly didn't expect. And yeah, he looks a little surprised, though mostly hopeful and elated at first... and yet.
The moment she starts explaining that there are different types of liking someone, Cloud vaguely looks like she kicked his puppy. His eyes are moving away from her for a bit, probably wondering if maybe he had misinterpreted her feelings after all.
Still, despite his confusion he's listening to her intently. He knows that whatever this is about, it's important to her and he's willing to set his immediate feelings aside for a moment to help her chew through whatever her problem is.
And that hug? Chef's kiss. I can imagine he would've closed his eyes and really enjoyed that if he didn't know that something was so clearly wrong. So he just stares ahead and can't relax, waiting for her to finally elaborate.
Unfortunately all she gives him is cryptic bullshit and that "thank you" seemed to immediately translate to "goodbye" in his head... Man. Poor dude can't catch a break...
Help, I'm way too invested in these two characters and I've watched this video and the Remake one at least 20 times by now...
When you get to the shells part of that side quest and aerith accidentally goes a little too far teasing him, it becomes clear that hes insecure about his romance abilities
One thing that I cannot get out of my head is how if anyone ever tries to say when Aerith dies, “Cloud isn’t really crying, that’s his persona crying blah blah blah” okay yeah if THATS his persona crying despite everything we’ve seen and KNOWING how Cloud himself reacts to things based on the Nibelheim flashback, you can only imagine how much harder Cloud would cry for Aerith’s death
just tell them it is also his persona who kissed tifa🤣
@@fadlanfadilah1171 Nah but that’s ‘dIfFeReNt’ tho 😂😂
I love how Brianna White captures Aerith’s loving side.😢
AhhZeeOww2 Maya as Aerith is Legendary and unmatched. But Briana is by far the best English VA for Aerith
@@kwstas1290 Yeah. And to make it better, like Cloud, Cait Sith, and Elena’s VAs, FF7 Remake is their first voice-over project.
There are so many more scenes than theses ones too!! Not to mention all the synergy skills they have together (like combat savior!)
Does anyone have a compilation of all the CxA Remake references in Rebirth?
@@JShroythere's so many clerith content! My dream, buddy! ❤
watching ur first clerith vid back in 2020 is what got me into ff7 🙌🏻
Same... honestly I'm kind of glad it was, because I don't think I would be able to live without this ship
Same here, it was the first ever final fantasy content I saw and it led me into this incredible rabbit hole that is final fantasy 7
Dude same for me 😂 never played a ff game before
Sameeeeee ended up playing ff7 remake and once it comes to pc i will buy it too
SAMEE
Isn't it sweet though how Cloud plays along with Aerith, even when he knows something isn't right? He does it because he loves her, he wants to make her happy.
yet some people keep saying that Cloud is annoyed with her while in a dream date. Because they said Cloud keep saying she is weird the whole time.
@AhhZeeOww2too bad that some people assuming the situation very wrongly
@@huh3085 He didn't call her weird, as in call her a name, he said "You're 'acting' weird." He didn't understand they were inside another timeline. She was not acting herself and he knew it. Aerith knew she would not live for much longer (i.e. Sephiroth calling to her, and then later entering the church behind her to kill her) and that she just wanted a nice date with Cloud before that happened. That's all.
@@huh3085 Hmm...assuming something wrongly...Such as yourself in this case.
@@ChangingTimes01 yes , everybody knows that Cloud knows something is wrong with Aerith. Unfortunately, not everybody.
19:00 in JP he says "Wait for me" 🥺
the japanese version sounds more romantic tho
I’ve heard a lot of the Japanese moments were missed in translation when it comes to Cloud and Aerith. I guess here’s another example 😭
@@MoonlightBrillance they did it on purpose otherwise EN server will not liked it and started mumbling on Twitter lol
Some people on our side(Jp fandom) also noticed how bad the translation was on some parts in rebirth and even my friends laugh at how bad it is
@@jpcrimson3210 the person who translated it might be Cloti fan lol.
jk.
I don't really comment, but this has been bothering me a little. I have not played any Final Fantasy 7 games at all. I saw Remake, the OG version and I am watching someone stream this on Twitch. You can tell. You can just tell because it is not the same with Tifa and I like Tifa, but they are toxic for each other. There are no games with Aerith. She tells it how it is, and Cloud has always been someone that you need to confront, not head games or guessing games. This is real human emotions, but in a game. I feel like people who actually and truly discovered love (and it can be through trial and error) knows the gestures. how that person acts nervous but is weirdly comfortable with you, their voice and composure. He can't do that with Tifa. I watched and read a lot of stuff to see was it just me who only saw that. It is not a "Zack Thing". The streamer said without Zack and Aerith there would be no Cloud and Tifa. Hell, Zack wasn't supposed to be in Final Fantasy 7 in the first place. She was Cloud love interest from the start. Tifa is someone that could 'also' be a love interest. When Tifa was talking about something at the hotel with Cloud and I'm like why she keeps going off topic and it turns out she was testing him to see if he was listening. No one got the energy for that especially with Cloud's personality and Aerith is someone that watches him closely and without him knowing, Cloud learned to do the same thing too with Aerith. Bluntly, Cloud does not do any of the caring and considerate gestures for Tifa, he does not smile the same way, he does not laugh or anything like that towards her. It slowly became Aerith and now it fully is. Aerith throws Cloud off and sometimes, depending on the purpose you need someone to make you uncomfortable in a good way to bring out the best of your personality and Aerith does it without having to try too hard. I was just saying you don't have to be psychologist or the FBI to notice it in people behaviors. They literally put it in the game! You can see the difference. I feel like they made it obvious depending on who you pick how the relationship would be. Even if they are not dating, you can tell. The dates with all the girls aren't even the same. Physical connection will never be the same as an inner and outer connection. Seeing Cloud and Aerith together makes me feel that same feeling because I know. Literal chills throughout my entire being watching those two.
Great comment. This is what i'm Talking about. Let's appreciate the work of the creators because they brilliantly portrayed the characters and their relationships. I 100% agree. There is a completely different chemistry between Cloud and Aerith. Every time Cloud is defensive Aerith smashes that wall by not acknowledging his comments. Cloud succumbs to her every time because deep down he is not as he appears. And she sees it that's why she told him several times "she wants to find the real you" I don't know why there will be so many rude comments from Tifa's fans or Aerith's haters. You have your theories which the game has successfully debunked and you still constantly throw out hateful comments in these types of videos. I didn't respond to the boorish comments so I'll say something like this. For Aerith Zack will always be important in her life, but it is Cloud that she has now chosen to her heart ( many times the game has shown us this) Those who think Aerith is dead. Aerith is alive, Cloud saved her by creating a new timeline or world. Those who think they know what will happen in part 3 know nothing. The game has already shown that it does not flow according to the OG. There are multiworlds, timelines. And in the 3rd part the plot can go in a completely different direction.
but Cloud and Tifa kissed. Main characters always kiss, right? Cloti are the only couple who kissed out of the 3 dates. I mean out of Clerith and Cloud & Yuffie dates.
@@huh3085 Listen I dont know how old are You but thinking that You are Young. But for the topic. Imagine you are on a date. And all of a sudden this person starts asking you if your friend (well you know he/she likes him too) still has feelings for his ex? How would you feel? I ask this because...Ok there was a kiss. But did you notice what caused it? Cloud on his date with Tifa showed that he was jealous of Aerith. If you think it was a romantic scene that's your opinion. Because for me Cloud acted like a total asshole and turned a romantic scene into a very toxic one. I feel sorry for Tifa. It was sad. She became a substitute.
@@huh3085 And Tifa is not a main character. Main Characters is Aerith & Cloud and Sephiroth The devs many time told that. Tifa is like Zack.. Important character.
@@Speechless84 bro relax. I'm a Clerith shipper😭. I commented as being sarcastic since I saw a video where the title said "All Main Characters kiss in Final Fantasy universe." and there are also Cloti kiss.
At first, I was disappointed because they didn‘t kiss, but after finishing the game I think holding hands is even more meaningful. In Japanese culture this is “the first thing they do when start dating”. They hold hands three times and 2 of them are in non optional scenes. Really hope their kiss happens on part 3, they are way past the first date after all! Actually I lost count…
In Japanese culture, their date was more meaningful. The looks, the flower to the heart and the interlocking hand holding. Then they finish it up with the thank you. Pretty heavy stuff.
@@slayer1156 Exactly, the Japanese express themselves in a different way, much more indirect and subtle. The same goes for the language. They almost never say “I love you”, even married couples. “Suki” best translated as “like” is used to express a romantic interest, depending on the context. As you said every interaction between them means a lot. Some people just don’t see or choose to ignore.
CxA is very Japanese couple while CxT is for fanservice Western fan lol. Im Asiam so i can understand that pretty quick (watching anime also helps haha)
And besides, in the remake they show us cloud going to a massage place (madam m) to get a massage in the HAND and geting out like It was the best time of his life! For me its was like a hint of some kind to his "holding hands" date with aerith x the Kiss date with tifa.
Man aerith is one of the Main reasons as to why this game and the last became one of my all time favorite
14:43 In case you missed it, after hugging Cloud, Aerith is about to slightly move her body back released from the hug, but since Cloud hugs her back she leans to hug Cloud again. Such a subtle gesture, like she can’t help it and doesn’t hold back her feelings anymore. 😩
@AhhZeeOww2 Yeah, kudos to the mocap actors and their director for considering such tiny details like this.
oh my! I just noticed it wut?!
@@feynevan Chanel-nya udah hilang, Bang.
Cloud: I'll dance to save Tifa (actually dancing to make Aerith happy)
Aerith: I'll sing for the people I love (actually singing about her and Cloud)
yeah okay... this video's gonna be my new roman empire for the next 3 years until part 3 comes out
I've been team Tifa since day 1 of the original game and this video has single-handedly changed my mind almost completely.
Welcome to the joys of Clerith.
I can’t get these two out of my head it’s seriously messing with my daily life 😭🥺❤️
Same😭 I can't study for my exams 😭😭
@@sora123aqua3yo don't be like that. you have to study for your exam😂
@@sora123aqua3you have studyyy hahaha
I can't imagine putting all the effort and little details into their meaningful, emotional, wholesome, tragic story, romance and relationship just to have people say
"He doesn't like her, he said shes weird."
"She annoys him. He wants to leave her."
"He thinks he loves her only because he has Zack's feelings."
"She wants him to become Zack."
"She wants Zack not Cloud (despite how many times they've made it clear she doesn't want to be with Zack.)
"She doesn't know the real him, so she can't really like him"
"She's trying to tell Cloud she only kinda likes him, not really likes him"
This has been one of the best developing relationships I've seen in media. From him immediately feeling comfortable with and opening up to her, despite how uncomfortable that usually makes him with others. Him not caring about the money anymore. To him slowly starting to be more honest with his emotions and behavior. And her finally opening up to him cause she usually tries to hide her fear and anger to not discourage others. And the trust they develop for each other. Just like the 'No promises to keep' song meaning.
Like 🙄It's disappointing how many of the 'Fans' seem to hate the relationship between the 2 main characters. Which is basically the core of the whole story. I just can't with the 'Fans' of this game. It's just depressing.
It's not depressing anymore, it's downright disrespectful. What I mean by that is at least in OG (and AC), the story and relationships were somewhat vague and left up to interpretations. And furthermore, the terrible localizations and translations didn't help either.
But the willful misrepresentation of the most obvious and mutual romance in Remake/Rebirth by the western audience and gaming media is damn aggravating (yes, it's mutual, just look at Cloud's body language and mannerisms during the final date, as if he would do any of that shit if he wasn't interested as well). Heck, the theme songs themselves in both games should be more than enough 'evidence' of mutual affection.
These 'fans' care nothing of the story or core themes. They don't even give two shits about Cloud himself and they downright despise Aerith for random, ridiculous reasons. Even shipping preferences aside, how do they even admit to liking FF7 while taking a piss on its protagonists and the way their feelings are being canonically depicted?
My only hope is that SE doesn't give into fan appeasement pressures and dilute the story/ending in the final game.
@@bluestone13a-cj9pc Yeah, you're right. It is very disrespectful.The amount of people who seemed to be excited about Aerith's death is just gross. When is was written to be tragic and heart wrenching for the players. And while Cloud suffers for years about it, all people care about is shipping him with Tifa. I was hearing more about that kiss than Aerith's death when Rebirth came out. I don't understand being so obsessed with the games while also opening disliking the main 2 characters and their relationship. They've made it VERY obvious how Cloud feels about Aerith since Remake. And VERY obvious how Aerith feels about Cloud in Rebirth. But people still continue to play and act surprised and angry every time they show/hint them liking each other more. Why would you even play them? I don't play games if I dislike the main character/main story 🤷♂ I DON'T GET IT!
Clotis suck. Constantly misinterpreting, misinforming and gaslighting people in the fandom.
the “she doesn’t know the real him” argument is the funniest one to me, considering he last saw tifa 5 years ago, and she didn’t even realize it was him and thinks they last saw each other like 7 years ago. her last memories of him before seeing him again at the beginning of 7 was when he was like 14. people who are 21 are not the same people they were when they were 14. if you argue aerith doesn’t know the real cloud that simultaneously means neither does tifa. i’m not really into shipping (i do think cloud and aerith make more sense tho, plus i like their banter), but when i see people double down on that specific argument it’s hilarious to me bc it goes against cloud and tifa just as much as it goes against cloud and aerith
@@sleepysunshiine ur speaking facts lol
In the original game, the golden saucer date was meant to have Cloud and Aerith have an intimate moment before everything fell down. That's why Aerith had way more affinity points by default than everyone else. It was the creator's intention for players to experience it.
In Rebirth they've turned the golden saucer date into pure fan service, just trying to make every "ship" happy for a moment. But even still, in my opinion is obvious that the play and the date were more suited to Aerith.
Everything starts with Cloud seeing and smiling at Aerith writing the song. Then goes to bed and dreams again about her in the other timeline.
He wakes up and goes to his date with the person who has more affinity to the play. A play called Loveless that has clear parallelism with Cloud and Aerith, where Rosa even uses a staff like Aerith uses in combat. Then Aerith sings the song she wrote, a song that is a love song about how she met Cloud, how she wants to hold his hand, and never let go. And after that the date at the wheel.
If you have the date with Tifa, everything from the moment they get to the play until the end of the date is very weird.
The moment in the song where Aerith sings about "taking her hand", with Cloud looking at Aerith, but then holding hands with Tifa is ....disrepectful to say the least. I can't understand why Square Enix did that this way.
Then they go to the wheel, Cloud is as defensive as ever, cleary uncomfortable. So much that while Tifa is trying to have a good time, he brings Aerith into the conversation. It's obvious he was thinking about her. He asks Tifa if she talked with Aerith about Zack and she lies (for whatever reason). That makes Cloud think that Aerith still has feelings for Zack, showing a clear disappointing face. From there, Cloud suddenly starts acting way different, like the "Prince charming" that Tifa so much wanted since they were kids. He gaves her a weird hug, says the perfect words that Tifa loves to hear, and then yes, a beautiful kiss. The thing ends with both getting out of the wheel, Cloud visibly embarrassed about it. This date is never referenced again for the rest of the game. Tifa fans got their kiss so i guess that's the only thing that matters but in my opinion Tifa deserved a better date than this. To me, with so many things so forcibly integrated in those scenes, i can't believe how any of this can make their relationship "canon". I'm sorry to Tifa fans, but that's the way i see it.
If you have the date with Aerith everything makes sense. Aerith plays as Rosa, a character that resembles her future destiny. Sings the song she wrote for Cloud, while he can't look anywhere else but at Aerith. Then they have the date at the wheel and both act like always, there's nothing weird. Cloud is shy and Aerith is jolly. They almost kiss by accident and both blush about it. Aerith explains to Cloud how he compared him to Zack at first, but that she now clearly understand they're not the same. That there's a real Cloud who she wants to be with. Cloud takes down his wall and accept an intimate moment with her holding hands, the same motif that was told during the song and that is going to be present for the rest of the game. The date ends with both getting out of the wheel smiling, Cloud specially proud about it. A clear contrast compared to the Tifa date. Both the fact that Aerith tells about Cloud finding the real him, and the aspect of holding hands are reused multiple times until the ending.
But if there was any doubt the golden saucer dates were mostly irrelevant, just fan service to make everyone happy for a moment, Cloud and Aerith still have yet another non optional date before the end. A date where Aerith ends having an even more intimate moment with Cloud than in Gold Saucer telling her directly that she likes him before saying goodbye for the inevitable about to happen. In other words, the game give you choices to have that fan service date with whoever you wanted, but at the moment to tell you the story, they force you to have this moment between Cloud and Aerith, because it NEEDS to happen.
From that moment, Cloud never stops thinking about her until the end of the game.
Sephirot, who knows how much Aerith means to Cloud, gave his "blessing" to Cloud and told him he needed a "little push", both clear references about what is going to happen to her. Sephirot has been mocking Cloud about not being able to cry when his friends died. He didn't cry when Biggs and Jesse died, he didn't even cried when he tought he killed Tifa in Gongaga. But he cries when he sees Aerith dying at his arms, or at least that's what it looks like in that moment. Once he understands that Aerith is still there somehow his face is always smiling to her in a way that we never see him in any media related to FF VII before. Then when they defeat Sephirot, just before separating again, they hold hands exactly like they've being doing in their dates in the last hours of the game. In the final scene, when Aerith jokes while flirting with him about a reference in the park in Midgar, you can see Cloud smiling like a person in love. That stupid giggle. He then says goodbye to Aerith with a clear intention to end all of this and be reunited again. And the same love song Aerith wrote starts sounding in the background. A song that ends talking about him finding her again and be together evermore.
If this is not a romantic story, the real main romantic story of Final Fantasy VII, then i guess i didn't understand anything about the story and these characters....😅
I believe that you understood everything correctly . Se are doing two things in gs : fan service and filler to elaborate on some characters . Tifa and cloud are shown as two insecure individuals who bring negative traits from each other ( at this particular moment in the story ) . Cloud is trying to forget aerith , that’s why he holds tifa’s hand . Unfortunately, our protagonist can’t look away from aerith . Her performances moved him , so he decides to grasp at the last straw . Asking tifa about zack and aerith . Tifa misinforms cloud because of her own insecurities and cloud is left heartbroken . To cope with that situation he falls back on his soldier persona and kisses tifa to overcompensate . Se shows to us that tifa and cloud’s relationships are build on miscommunication and jealousy.
@@user-bw6qq7cf3f Yes, exactly. That's my impression too.
Tifa wants to be with a fake version of Cloud that really doesn't exists but Aerith wants to be with the real Cloud.
Tifa always wanted to be the damsel in distress that is going to be saved by her hero since kids. That's why she made Cloud promise her to save her when she needed help. Aerith. on the contrary literally said to Cloud that she is not. Aerith from the begining understood Cloud fake persona and that's why she is always so active trying to make him break that role.
It's a parallelism to what happened in Advent Children and the official novels that works a prequels of the movie.
There, after the events of FF VII, the story told us how Cloud really tried to be the person that Tifa wants him to be. He tried to live with her, and form a family. But time passed and Cloud started to act distant, and it was because he couldn't forget about Aerith. That brought tension with Cloud and Tifa, the moment she learns where he has being going all this time. Cloud ends the novel and start the movie basically ignoring Tifa and living in Aerith church. Like you said, the topics about their relantioship: miscommunication and jealousy. By the end of the movie Cloud, despite learing to moving on, keeps thinking about Aerith, shown in the credits scene riding his bike in a road filled with yellow flowers and showing his desk filled with them. That's because he keeps recollecting them in his travels to be close to her.
That's why everytime i hear that Tifa "is the only person that understands Cloud", his "anchor", i can't believe we are experience the same things watching the story of FF VII.
In Rebith when Cloud has lost control of himself and is giving the black materia to Sephirot, is not Tifa who makes Cloud regain its senses, is Aerith. That's a real anchor, a feeling that makes him understand what's really happening.
I will add this about the topic about the kiss...
In a final fantasy game, you don't show the canon kiss in an optional scene that requires specific conditions to get. Yuna and Tidus was not optional, Squall and Rinoa was not optional, Clive and Jill was not optional....
So considering that they didn't show Aerith and Cloud kissing in the optional date scene, is kind of a hint of what is yet to come in the 3rd game.
With the Tifa kiss, is like a good example of "be careful of what you wish for". What if the 3rd game focus entirely in Cloud and Aerith's relationship and that's why they gave Tifa fans the kiss in the second game already?.
After seeing various streams of Cloti fans reacting so neagatively about the "dream date" scene between Cloud and Aerith, whatever it happens in the 3rd game is going to be a shitshow with this "shipping wars" if the lyrics of No promises to keep end up being true that's for sure....
@@user-bw6qq7cf3fAnd Cloud and Tifa date scene in skywheel is so wrong.. it's very sad. She is a great character and she is not deserve to be as a replacement. I am all the way for the Cloud and Aerith relationship...But when I watched Tifa and Cloud scene...I was angry for Cloud. I mean how can You go a date with a girl and asking her if she asked her friend (who is his another love interest) about if she still have a feeling about his ex. I understand that Tifa fans are happy because of the kiss. But.. the cause and in what kind of atmosphere this kiss happened..it was a really bad scene for Tifa. She deserves more in this scene.and Cloud acted like a total asshole
@@charliegoestohollywood1039 , amazing analysis . I agree with you . Tifa and cloud are like oil and water - the don’t mix . Nojima is doing his best by trying to provide fan service that they want and giving us a cohesive narrative . But some cloud and tifa supporters are refusing to see the bigger picture . Moreover , there is a clear parallel between tifa’s resolution in remake and aerith’s dream date in rebirth . In tifa’s resolution everything is so dark , Cloud hurts tifa during the hug , it feels so artificial . It causes her pain . While with aerith the room is full of light and warmth, cloud is natural in his behaviour, he has a firm embrace , but she feels comfortable with him . They fit very well together .
@@Speechless84 , I totally agree . But I believe it was the point that Nomura , nojima and kitase were trying to make . Tifa and cloud don’t fit . They are 2 different individuals with a lot of heavy baggage . They remind me a lot of jimmy McGill and Kim wexler from better call Saul . They are fine as friends , great even , but as a couple ( where you need to be very intimate and honest ) they fail miserably . Tifa lies because of her insecurities , cloud literally forces himself on tifa and she is fine being a second choice ( kind of ) , because she is so afraid of loosing cloud . He is the last piece of her tragic past , after all . Tifa needs to become more independent and let go of cloud who obviously views her as a substitution .
Omfg literally 23 minutes, the heavens are smiling upon me
They have been the perfect couple since I first played it in 1997❤
The thing is too a lot of the Cloud x Tifa shippers for some strange reason maybe not all seem to literally hate Aerith. And it is true Cloud only thinks about her all the time in Advent Children and was told he would lose what he cherishes most. And I see people saying Aerith was never a hero and all kinds of things about her. And to me she is the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen. And I just feel like they didn’t get the story. He liked Tifa in childhood. He thinks about her and cares about her. But his heart is with Aerith.
A lot of them love to troll and start 💩 I dunno how many of them actually hate Aerith probably not the majority since Zack exists and they can ship them together thus theirs isn't in danger which is... weird... I put myself in the head of a toxic shipper and need bleach now bye.
I’ve picked up on that too. Very seldom do I see Clerith fans that hate Tifa the way Cloti fans hate Aerith. They will do ANYTHING do diminish her feelings for Cloud and his feelings for her. It’s insane. It is canonically a LOVE TRIANGLE. Both girls are love interests.
some of the things i take joy from is watching cloti streamer doing chapter 14 date with Aerith, some of them were making faces and cringing really hard when Cloud and Aerith having fun and then they immediately distracted themself when Zack cutscene show just for it to come back to cloud and aerith date🤣. They are trying to deny Clerith but the game says NO.
@@fadlanfadilah1171 After finishing the game, i remember watching people playing the ending on twitch too to see their reactions and i watched 3 of them that were Cloti toxic fans in a row (it was not my intention, i really didn't know about their preferences). The 1st one called Aerith a "5 year old kid" and a cheater the moment she heard Marlene saying that Aerith liked Cloud. The 2nd one was all the time saying "bitch don't touch him, he belongs to Tifa" visibly upset every time during the "dream date" scene. The 3rd one during that same scene said that she didn't want to play anymore.
This is a great part of the fandom of this game. People that call themselves "fans" of FF VII. Total bullshit. What you are, is only a fan of a virtual character, not the game. If you hate Aerith, then you don't like FF VII at all, simple as that.
I'm not totally blaming them though. When they trick you into thinking you have a choice and then the game and the protagonists choose over yourself, it's normal to feel upset. I blame Square Enix itself for this.
Aerith became a corpse, Cloud has the right to fall in love again.
“Full girlfriend mode: activated” lol I swear her dream of a date with cloud is the best part in the game
I was about to rewatch the remake one, but it seems i that i got here just in time to watch rebirth version xD let's go clerith nation!! 🔥
Keep spreading that #ClerithLove
peak soulmatism
You are speaking facts.
it would be amazing if part 3 theme is a duet between Hollow and No promises to keep, singing about their reunion and how they won't let go.
It`s definitely gonna be a duet or sephiroth. But, I think duet makes a more sense, since sephi is gonna lose anyway)
@AhhZeeOww2 I do agree with @skywalkera836, The story clearly revolves around Aerith and Sephiroth's machination having cloud as the catalyst for both of their plans. Cloud already got his theme to set the tone of the remake (Hollow), Aerith got hers in rebirth with No promises to keep, for which if you examine the lyrics, the hope of it is like an answer to despair of Hollow. Since the last theme is most likely going to be made by Nobuo given the latest IGN interview, I think he'll want to complete is musical storytelling with maybe a piece centered around Sephiroth. Still, as iconic as he is, it would be weird to have the final theme be centered around the villain unless they go the route of the tragic villain route like they did with Emet selk in FF14, however I don't think that would fit well for Seph character. (But I wouldn't say no for a musical scene at the crater where he sing us his song).
Best case I can see, is a Trio song theme where Sephiroth comes to oppose both Hollow (Cloud) and No promises to keep (Aerith) common theme, to find each other again and never let go. But both Cloud and Aerith hopes for a reunion become his undoing.
At least that's how I imagine it, whatever we get, I know it will be great and I'll love it
@AhhZeeOww2 Bro just wants to hear him sing
@@borttheattorney6012 I don`t mind actually, that would be funny to see how sephi is gonna sing with his characther xD. But, I`m mostly sure, that it will be a duet
clerith nation we are so back
You could have also added the moment in one of their quests where Cloud teases Aerith about the flowers talking to her again
The interlocking fingers between them is so beautiful. In Japanese culture that's called "the lovers connection". And Aerith is the only person he does that with. I cannot with them, they make my heart melt.
“Koibito Tsunagi” or lovers tie
Yea loved that so much
And in reality Interlocking hands means a lot too..like Connection,real love,deep love,true love ... Interlocking is one of the most affectionate ways of affirmation and understanding of love between two ppl tgtr. And can also be expressed of contentment ,devotion that you're with someone you loved which you truly care about .By Interlocking hands w/c squeezing nor caressing it was one of the best answers to show him/her that..
"Yknow' the words of affirmation ...
@@Lunafreya_NoxEhm I’m a guy and I would opt for the hand thing if I wasnt big on having mouth to mouth action. But still cares enough for the girl in an emotional way as to not want to hurt her feelings. But the fact that I’m already not jumping the gun to go first base probably means I’m not feeling it. Thats kind of damning coming from a guy. Thats like a girl only wanting to be friends.
@@mikev8746 luckily you aren't cloud. That was very romantic but you can go on coping about it in comments lmao. Let me guess cloud jawdropping looking at aerith singing was also not romantic for you
@@lieberte I don't have to be literally him to understand how a guy like that thinks. Given that I'm a guy. And definitely not a salesman or social worker. So I can estimate a guess. A woman trying to speak for a guys body language and trying to make judgement calls on that is as flakey of a take as a man doing the same for a woman. It takes serious experience and aptitude to be able to read the opposite sex. Because what you think and feel never quite relates to the other side.
And no I don't think so. She was singing and he clearly was impressed by her performance. But that doesn't have to be romantic. A good example of staring in a romantic way would literally be the Tifa scene in GS. Do I have to elaborate on the differences between those two examples?
It's funny how minutes ago I was thinking about your channel and I wondered to myself "This channel made this recopilation of Cloud and Aerith moments in remake, it has been some weeks since release, I wonder if it will be the same now with rebirth." And I visited to watch the old video just to find that you did! What a happy surprise!
Destiny! Fate! Just like under the LOVELESS sign
@@JShroy Fr. Sometimes, when I look back at other ships I've had in the past I notice that most of them have similar motifs, dinamics, simbols, etc. It feels like a whole prediction to me.
2:44 funny enough I think it was hinted/confirmed that the Aerith cloud met in his dream in remake is actually 'future' aerith. So in a way he already has.....where she told him not fall in love with her and he said 'don't I get a say in this?'
soulmates ✨🤍
Canon since '97!!
omg yesss! i'm so happy you're back with the clerith content 🫶
Also in AC before the final phase of fight with Sephiroth, he asks cloud what he cherishes most,
Immediately, the first cutscene / thought that comes after is Aerith😊
Amazing edit 😁
Most w ship is back letsgooo
Hey yououui, just wanted to let you know that if there are any specific jerks or naysayers being particularly awful or persistent in the comments, you can "hide" those comments from view of everyone (I believe that will also stop you from getting alerts/notifs for their comments as well). If you click their names to go to their channel, then select "more about this user" and then "report this user" you'll get a list of options. One of which isn't reporting them for anything at all but instead "hiding" them so none of their comments will show up for anyone, yourself included, on any of your videos. Sadly there's no true block function anymore but this is the closest alternative.
Looking forward to a continuation to these vids once part 3 comes out. Congrats on reaching 100K views!
When I was much younger, I didn't care much about the love triangle of FF7. I think I might have even slightly preferred Tifa as a child. But as I got older and revisited the original game, and fell in love with Kingdom Hearts where Clerith was subtle but obviously implied, I began to really consider this ship. Then we got Remake and I was just BLOWN AWAY by how GOOD they were together. Cloud and Aerith went from being a couple I was only mildly invested in to possibly TIED for my favorite videogame romance of all time (with Justin/Feena from Grandia; and that game is a huge nostalgia bias for me). You could really see these two getting closer and falling for each other, while the potential tragedy of her death loomed large in players' (and maybe Aerith's) minds.
And now here in this game their love for each other is just undeniable. Aerith outright SAYS she likes Cloud, while he spends nearly the whole game looking at her with hearts in his eyes and getting hugely jealous about her past with Zack or even the THOUGHT of her finding someone else (as seen when going on a "date" with Tifa in chapter 8). I can acknowledge and respect the rival ships, so I just DON'T UNDERSTAND how they can't do the same when the game is blatantly obvious about these two liking each other. I genuinely wonder how they interpret and justify Cloud willingly going on MULTIPLE dates with Aerith non-optionally (beginning in Kalm, end of the game, and even optionally as a sidequest) as well as the implications of him "sneaking" pictures of her and, again, getting clearly jealous of her relationship with Zack. It's just ridiculous to claim Cloud DOESN'T like her romantically!
For instance, I'm not disputing he's attracted to Tifa. Scenes like Costa del Sol make that pretty obvious. But while she was definitely given more attention and emphasis in the story than I expected (Remake genuinely came across to me like he was ONLY interested in Aerith, but this game definitely tried to balance the girls more), I do think most of her moments with Cloud illustrated how they don't really work well together. Especially their early interactions were so strained, with Cloud being closed off, distant, or outright suspicious of her, and Tifa getting hurt because he didn't act the way she wanted/expected. It's just such a clear contrast to his much easier relationship with Aerith (which only gets complicated once they hit Gongaga and he starts thinking she might be "off the table", as it were). Like it's pretty damning that the DAY after a big fight with Tifa he casually goes on a date with Aerith. Right at the beginning of the game! Pretty clear where Cloud's feelings lie, regardless of the player's feelings. Personally I think he only has a romantic future with Tifa IF Aerith is out of the picture, and it's not an easy road for them at all.
I really hope part 3 gives Cloud and Aerith a happy ending. I'm worried it won't be a single, canon ending, but even if their ending is player-driven, I'll take it. I just want her to live and FINALLY be happy with Cloud, after they've lost each other not just in OG FF7, but spinoff material as well. They've spent SO MANY games and universes trying to make it back to each other, so just let them be happy already!
Yes i really hope they have their happy ending in part 3 and i have a slight feeling they will because of the alternate universe where cloud saved aerith (also in kingdom hearts thats the only universe she is alive so im sure that follows from when cloud saved her)
I’m just curious but what makes you think cloud is attracted to tifa this game? It’s clear the the devs intentionally add more tifa scenes to balnce out the girls’ screentime. But after doing all her quests, I fail to see anything that could be called romantic attraction (though some of these tifa quests are very cute). Except for the gold saucer date, what other scene with tifa is romantic to you? I’m not judging, just genuinely wondering.
@@quangthaitruong7960 Yeah all of Tifa's quests are mostly friendly based. If you replace Tifa with a guy the scene will turn out the same while Aerith's quests are way more romantic. The only non-optional romantic scene between Cloud and Tifa is the scene where they almost kiss in Gongaga in chapter 9. As a clerith shipper i have to admit, it was very cute. But still nowhere near to the Clerith moments.
@@quangthaitruong7960 Compared to Remake, much more emphasis was placed on Cloud and Tifa TRYING to connect... but failing at it. I'd personally classify a lot of the earlier scenes in the game as having romantic tension between them, since it's obvious they both DO care a lot about the other and WANT to be closer (not necessarily romantic, but potentially). It's just repeatedly shown that they struggle at this and probably don't mesh well. The FEELINGS are there, but their personalities clash and make it strained and painful compared to Cloud's interactions with Aerith.
I didn't say that I think Cloud is undeniably "in love" with Tifa for a reason though. I said he is ATTRACTED to her. As in, physically/sexually into her. The scene where the ladies come to the beach in Costa del Sol focuses on TIFA. It's possible Cloud was equally into Aerith's beachwear, but Tifa got the focus there and clearly flustered or outright turned him on.
For me personally, coming out of Rebirth, I think it's clear that Cloud and Aerith are attracted to each other emotionally AND physically, while Tifa definitely loves Cloud and his feelings for her are a bit more nebulous. She's gorgeous and he's aware of it now (which he might NOT have been in Remake, since he didn't care at all about her appearance in Wall Market while he was stunned by Aerith's best dress), and he definitely wants to be closer to her BUT it's up in the air whether he genuinely loves both girls romantically or Tifa is a wish fulfillment thing - finally getting to be friends with the girl he's watched from afar since childhood. And personally, even if he DOES like her romantically, I think Aerith is still the better, healthier choice for everyone involved. He and Tifa just do not communicate well at all and even later in the game are STILL fumbling and hurting each other. With Aerith, the only real issue is whether Zack is still "in the way", so to speak. Otherwise they get along really well and are able to be open in vulnerable and help each other a lot.
I feel similarly I played the OG for the first time about a decade ago already an adult and wanted to see what all the hubbub was about it having heard nothing but good things about it even though I had long been spoiled on nearly every twist(I somehow wasn't spoiled on Cloud's whole deal) and didn't much care about the romance but what I really identified with and still remember was Cloud's whole arc of self acceptance and learning to be ok with himself. Other than a few character moments and iconic scenes like Barret and Dyne fighting, Red realizing his father wasn't a coward and Nibelheim burning most of the other stuff I've forgotten. Should play it again one day soon.
Anyway the Remakes have completely changed things the characters have so much more presence now especially Aerith like holy 💩 she has so much personality and basically stole every scene she was in now I'm all aboard the Clerith train and there ain't any getting off these tracks any time soon baby😎
Did you notice that for the dream date sequence, it’s the background music is “No promises to keep”? It’s totally Aerith’s song with and to Cloud 🥲🥹
I cried at "Whatever happens, don't blame yourself". Wtf. Never had never a couple make me this sobbing mess. And i was there when Yuna said goodbye to Tidus.
I need you to know that your Remake video is what got me into the fandom-and now I am hopelessly immersed in the ff7 rabbit hole, and the relationship between these two means SO MUCH to me.
I don’t know that I ever would have gotten into these games without your video-so thank you!! Both videos are going to be my go-to pick me up for the next 3 years 💛
This is just beautiful.
You forgot the scene where Cloud grabs Aerith behind him when Rude and Elena helicopter down to drop off those " zombies " people near that railroad place.
Also, when Aerith was praying and Cloud asked what she wished for.
They really do show such love and romance.
Honestly that was me too at the end of 14 they took us on an emotional roller coaster. The bond of love they have is so wonderful. 🎀💛🖤🗡
Thanks for the amazing video. ❤
AHHHHH.
I am so freaking excited to see you back with a new Clerith video! I can not wait for what more you might have planned. Thank you so much!
Subscribed. I spammed all my group chats with your Remake edit, and here I go again with this one
"Wait, run it back, I was crying" is in regular rotation with my friends
They are so married couple coded 🥰🥰
A truly perfect pairing ♥
Even the way they speak to each other in Japanese is so married couple coded. Cloud be saying stuff like “I will come pick you up and bring you to my side” and “Wait for me” while Aerith be saying “Welcome Back” and “Take Care” like a housewife. She even says in Japanese “No matter what happens. We will be together” when she gives the Black Materia to him. Cloud will definitely marry her if given the chance 100%.
Waiting until at least 2026~2027 for a happy ending for those two is alright killing me here! AAAAAAHHHHHHH! Said that, nice editing @yououui! You're warmed my heart with cuteness of those two!
You know… if it comes out in 2027, that will be the 30th anniversary of ff7. Will Cloud and Aerith kiss on the 30th anniversary?
@@davidpaul1733 that's my bet bro! Haha! ;)
We saved her. We just have to bring her home.
A simple line
And yet you are right friend
Part 3, we will bring her home
Part 3: Homecoming?
@@justadarnminute474 hmmm
Just reminds me of cloud being a possessed mess of a person
And doesn’t fit the “Re” theme of it
Would be really painful if this was all part of the meta plot regarding acceptance, letting go, moving on in the lifestream, finding yourself, accepting who you are etc etc 😂
You know, the themes of FF7 as per the OG..
You are god damn right.
It’s time to finally save our girl.
17:02
that "no" from cloud was worth the 70 dollars I spent on this game
Congrats on 100k views!
This game was so Clerith I was sobbing the whole time
They’re so cute together. I really prefer Cloud’s date with Aerith over Tifa’s even though I like both. Feels more intimate and romantic even though there’s a literal kiss in Tifa’s xD
@AhhZeeOww2Also doesn't help that the kiss in question is a literal rebound kiss.
AhhZeeOww2Agreed. Cloud and Aerith have such a strong naturally romantic bond.
if your points with Tifa are higher, then you'll get the kiss. If not, Tifa got a hug and not a kiss.
They are so canon🫂❤️
Clive said it best...
"Call me a puppet all you want. It doesn't change the fact that I fell in love with Aerith."
WE'RE SO BACK ‼️‼️‼️ ☁️🌸
Jokes aside, thanks for all the effort you put into this video. The game fed us so well but it wouldn't be the same without you !
So happy to see the #clerith family reuniting!!
This video absolutely helps people understand the true love between cloud and aerith. There is no option between Cloud and Tifa or Aerith... there is no Cloud and Tifa, and Tifa knows it. The way Tifa shows disappointment but acceptance of it. She sees it, and she knows how much they love each other. Some players may want to ship them believing they are canon, but the true canon in this remake series is Cloud and Aerith. The entire premise behind it all is a man with a troubled past who finds the love of his life and does everything in his power to challenge fate, knowing what it has in store for her, and doing everything in his power to protect the woman he loves. Perhaps this is why he can still see her, as their love for one another is so powerful it created an alternate reality. Sephiroth sees this as well, and it interferes with his plans to destroy the planet and gain ultimate power. Cloud does not care so much to save the planet. He wishes to protect the woman he loves and be with her forever. Sephiroth is attempting to merge all realities, including the one created between the love Cloud and Aerith have for one another. This is why he tries tricking him, saying he's just a puppet and he doesn't have feelings towards her. But Cloud knows otherwise, and he knows how he feels towards her, and he will stop at nothing to prevent her cruel fate from becoming a reality.
You're the best!! Getting everything together for us to fall in love with these amazing characters. Cloud is more playful when he's around Aerith. Smiles more and he feels ease. Their chemistry is so amazing and how they care for each other :( It will break my heart if they have to separate again.
Aerith is waiting for Cloud. I hope they give us a full confirmation of their romance in part 3. And I'm really looking forward to listening to a song that is a duet with Cloud and Aerith.
Anyone else crying because of this beautiful romance.
I always find it funny when the camera pans over to Aerith, Cloud just walks into shot like “excuse me?”
So, did Cloud spin that wheel intentionally to catch an imbalanced Aerith, lol?
Absolutely amazing and adorable! I loved your Remake one and was eagerly hoping you would make a Rebirth version. Here's hoping the part 3 video breaks the 30 minute mark.
The end is so relatable 😂😂
100k let's gooo Clerith ❤
If they don't get reunited in the third game i will kms
I'll join you
me too
Yeah
Please dont guys 😂
@@mikev8746yeah haha
Cloud: Whatever you decide, I'm with you.
Aerith: Whatever happens, I'm here for you.
They might have changed the bonfire scene in OG, but theu added in these gems and made Cloud give her the SOFTEST look possible while encouraging her AND gave them a Tangled moment. Uugh, they just support and cherish each other so much it's crazy. ❤❤❤
3:16 YOURE EVIL FOR THAT OMFG 😭😭😭💔💔
I kept saying “NO NO NO, AIN’T NO WAY IN HELL!!!”😢