Twinblades is winblades, especially in low ranks.
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13:44-13:50 this is what's going through the mind of every Bronze-Gold Varian
LMAO
13:36 your first mistake was thinking low ranks care about clearing camps
i appreciate the heck out of these videos, i am getting back into hots and this helps a ton. I would like if you could post the final build at the end instead i have to try and search at the end for what talents you are picking but I am just happy to get good videos like this showing things i can use in my own games.
"I'm honestly just going to bully, and we're gonna keep bullying" - NotParadox 2019
@5:29 that's a very interesting detail, I have not previously considered. Denying experience, by taking opponent camps... that's an interesting detail.
@15:41 "Kill friendship..."
Banner of Ironforge actually dropped in WR. Now Dalaran and Glory to the Alliance is a thing to boost up your healer.
Thx for the video.
I must be the only one who has never played Twin Blades before and I’ve been on HotS since 2015.
For me, it’s Collosus Smash or no balls.
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Colosus Smash is good? Yes. But if you have burst damage already, such as Tychus and Jaina in the video, Twin Blades is arguably better.
You also have much better waveclear as TB and really good sustain after lvl 7, and you can solo lane or double soak.
Da Bx Twin is so op and stupid, specially if theres an aba or morales to back it up
@@kendov288 There's nothing bad about extra burst, and enemy tank might be scared of you since your whole team can blow him up in an instant
Smash is definitely good especially in lower rank. Just let the person push the lane past mid then delete them. Or wait for them to transfer to objective and ambush from the bushes. Basically guaranteed a free kill every game because many people think they wont go 100 to 0 that fast
Do you do strat videos for support mains?
Lol that mention to fantaro, you two should do a video about whatever you want of HotS :P
I enjoy these "you can carry in low ranks without doing anything impressive" videos, it's a realm of how to play's that I've literally never seen anyone touch before
A video on the new xp orbs and what this mean for Abather?
I want to know your opinion about the tactic in a 2 lane map where a team drafts tyrael, lt morales and some dot heroes like nazeebo and azmodan and just rushes the other teams structures and core using medivac dropship and tyraels sanctification to secure the structures
If that strategy doesn't at least get them a keep, it has failed. If they do that strategy after level 16, you should be able to at least take a keep of your own in return. If they do it after level 20, they have to kill your core. Even without minimap awareness, you get notified when Medivac is used. Hearthing to base takes 8 seconds. I'd say Medivac takes 3~5 seconds to depart and arrive in your base. Combined with Tyrael's Sanctification, they have 8 seconds at best before your whole team should be able to damage, crowd control and kill them.
It's important to play to the strengths of your team. Their team doesn't sound like one which wins teamfights. Push that advantage right from the start. You should be at least one fort ahead. The key to that strategy is to never neglect macro. Their team will kill your structures faster, but you kill their heroes faster. If their heroes are dead, you kill their structures faster.
Feed the doggo please!
Is that what that sound is?
I really like the contrast between how you and Fan play, both excellent in different ways
sorry but may i know why you don't help with wave clear in early game?
Hey NP,
I really feel live voice overs are better than recorded voice overs- it lets us hear a GM mindset /as/ you're making the decisions which i feel is really beneficial.
TYVM
Twin Blyat Varian, uurgh. Great video as usual, though. :)
What's that you mentioned about forts giving you a 20% exp boost? Never heard of that.
Taking down structures gives you passive xp, a notice tells you that in game even
How does one counter these low level Varians though?
One minor mistake I noticed is when you are running away you should do one AA on the closest enemy to you to get 30% movespeed. The delay caused by AA is insignificant.
Cool explanation! :)
fan is really fun to watch. i dont think i could ever be that good mechanically.
you need to take the talent that makes you parry pagic spells. They changed it so now Either you go tank varian and get the ability or arms varian and you can take it but cost you a bit of damage same as for fury cost you damage trade off sadly
Have you just been solo queue in all these or playing with ppl you know are competent?
Can we get a Probius guide?
Not talking about Fan, this is the crossover I never knew I wanted. You both should try to team for a crazy bronze to GM just so you can do the shittiest and craziest things a mind can come up with
Fans donogames in Bronze and still in GM are the shittiest things, like ana solo lane, doing no herodmg bevore min 10, Alex top dmg by far, trolling 9! ppl with gazlow and so on....
7:17 fans eys bleed everytime he sees someone tanking towershoots for greed...
can you do odin tychus ?
I love all your videos but I have a question. Why not go the talent that makes you not take damage when you W?
Aric Jones Because you lose a lot of sticking power without it and blocking auto attacks on 2 charges is enough survivability if you play right and to your strengths, although there are certain situations where it’s better to have the protected (such as Pyro blast, Kelthuzad 1 shot etc.)
@@HornetIsVoid The reason why I asked is because he was playing safe and not taking extended fights anyway.
old vid but why is the murky giving you kills for free ?
noooooo, the sacred texts! the secret is out :(
8:53 how did you heal yourself???
He had Stukov's heal on
"Memeblades"
"I dont condone smurfing " - NotParadox
If you want be a melee assassin Varian, choose Colossus with High King quest. If you want a bruiser Varian, choose Twin Blade with Overpower talent, instead of High King Quest. Because you have enough attack speed to reflect 3 heroic strike / parry. And your true counter is Xul's -75% attack speed, isn't blind.
But Xul's -75% attack speed slow x2,5 stronger than Arthas's -40% attack speed slow.
In/Out kite Hits -30% HP and u will be all the time 90% mana 80-100% HP,for that you need other 1st pick talent :) twin is more a sustain build and easy to shut down vs a proper team,only noobs take King quest at lvl1,u can`t stay more that 2 sec in a fight to get alot of AA anyway when you play him in the proper way:) even Parry have more dmg because of resets dmg bonus :) I tell you this as a pro who sale smurfs accounts that got 100/100 games Winrate Silve5 - Master in 3 days
Their comp was pretty bad I would say and worked out really well for a TB Varian. Hard to solotank on Anub with only squishies behind you. Now if they had picked Arthas instead of Murky it would have been a whole different game for Varian. Love your vids Paradox :)
Oh gawds. My number one pet peeve as a solo laner: randos showing up in the lane and needlessly pushing or hanging around uselessly when they could be useful elsewhere.
This game was bad example tbh. You had 4 premade which were coordinated somehow cuz they weren't just doing well same what Ana with her Nano and Murky with his "bait". Also taking fan as example is bad idea because I noticed he's doing reversed psychology on enemies aka: On high ranks you play safe, teamfight, either win or lose, camps, repeat. Meanwhile he does more risky plays that some people would call out gold or plat but they are well executed with element of surprise aka "what an idiot would do that" but he does and this works because he got this element of surprise. He kinda reminds me of this blinking Zeratul around everything. High risk high reward, safe plays only when he can't do dangerous ones (or didn't picked hero for that).
In diamond/master that Jaina would be so death 0:57 xD
i think i hear a dog crying in this video
That poor murky got bullied, also banner of dalaran is better now, 100% uptime with lvl 20
Yo this is good n all but let's see some vids w XP changes in em
Bro are you not aware that it's the level 10 shield block talent that grants you "protected" status?
GONNA BE A PRO SOON MAKE ALIVING WINING ALL THE TOURNAMENTS!!!1000000000$ A YER COOL
what a great match to show your skill. you team is 3 levels ahead 20 kills to 3 lul . super challenging
My team would have died 10 times already and have lost objective while i would be freezing the lane top
Pls also Inc. the draft
Pro tip: If murky steals your camp, ignore it, it wont get anything.
Nooooo, you have killed friendship. What will the world do without friendship?
Joke aside, you showed what happens most of the time when you go aggressive without knowing where the enemy is.
Hey, this video pretty old, theres no xp globe in the game.
Hate the xp globe change, but lane freezing got better with it. And NP showed it in the vid.
@@andrewyp6724 Lane freezing got better and a lot of heroes have lost al lot of value :/
yep, i love the new system, im a solo laner main and now I can completely deny the xp from the enemy. However I loved aba, i wish monstrosity can pick up the globes, as well as zagara's summons too.
Hey man , I've been playing heroes since alpha and I achieved the rank master and shit... but honestly the more I play hots the more I find this game is daying..
And the community is the worst
I'm I right? can u give me a reason to continue playing heroes ?
Not worse than LOL. That community is a toxic hell hole xD
Also I think the match making has gotten a lot worse in the last 12 months.
Some heroes are almost certainly either together in opposite teams.
So basically play as a decent offlane, play safe and soak.
I met you through a video of carrying to masters, and I don't really enjoy watching you stomp in low ranks, it just doesn't feel right, I've never been a fan of smurfing because it invalances the whole purpose of the rank sistem. I would really enjoy more watching you in your natural competitive enviroment and I would also learn more.
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Well, that game would have gone the exact same way if NotParadox would have picked Colossus Smash instead of Twin Blades. The enemies were easy to kill.
YOU ARE NOT PREPARED... to play illidan lol
Time to go stomp all the twin blade noobs.
you so sweet man you get a bit cocky once chargeing into enemy team alone and instant your talking as you would have feeded the entire game your brain out...you got baited that one time. nice content like always keep it on
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What can a twinblades do that Illidan can't do better? Every time I play twinblades I'm sad that I didn't pick either Illidan or collossus smash.
I like TB the least, but just to start up the debate, TB Varian is sturdier than Illidan, who only is sturdy against AA dealers and popped more easily against CC.
@@andrewyp6724 i feel like tb Varian isn't a great pick against spell damage though, if he picks protected at 10 he loses a lot of sticking power
dont you want to force fights while ur up 3 levels and be agressive on the map
Force 5v5s and 1v1s? Yes. Everything else? No. In lower ranks, it's unlikely your team will stay as a coherent group of 5 outside objectives.
Even then, if you have a player hellbent on splitpushing on your team, it's not going to happen. Do note how NotParadox even joined the first objective, even if he joined late and left early.
Being able to estimate when your team actually needs you to win the fight comes with experience. When in doubt, as "the sololaner", go back to the basics:
1. Is there an objective going on?
2. Is the team past level 10 or even 16?
If the answer to one of those questions is yes, stay with the team if there's any hint of them posturing for a fight. After level 10, you need a good reason to stay away from the team and it's better to communicate that you'll be late to the fight. Sometimes, the team manages to stall long enough to overcome the difference in numbers. After level 16, you need a very good reason to stay away from the team because the endgame phase starts around level 16 and that's the phase where a single hero kill is often the difference between being able to defend a fort/keep or not. It can also snowball into a loss because lower ranked players tend to give up on matches earlier than "those tryhards", which results in their skills and experience related to playing from behind being severely underdeveloped.
A lot of NotParadox' games are a bad example in regards to your question, because if your team is three levels ahead that means they have both a talent advantage (except 19-16) and ~12% more HP and damage on everything compared to the enemy team. At that point, your team can win the fight with four heroes if they don't overcommit, while you can force them to decide whether they want to definitely lose a 4v4 while you'll likely win the 1v1, even if it means your splitpushing is delayed or even prevented, or they commit to the 5v4 while you get a fort or keep on the other side of the map even if they do win that fight.
So what you're saying is I should copy Fan and become 1v5King God
you fr bruh? Dual varian? one of the most op spec in hots
He is banned half of the time in silver.
the thing about these videos is that it doesn't really benefit anyone to learn how to do well against people that are already playing bad? the reason why people have been watching fan's videos is that he's one of the only people that is 1. good at the game and 2. playing against good people with good teammates most of the time, and even when he's doing his bronze to GM stuff he's playing against his own teammates just as much as he's playing against the other team
this is something applicable to pretty much every game you're trying to get better in; when I played melee a while ago, I only ever got better when I was playing people that were better than me and able to tell me why I was doing bad. the only thing that practicing against people who were way worse than me helped with was ingraining my own bad habits further, because when you're playing against people that can't punish you for doing things wrong, you just keep doing the wrong things
so for these videos instead of talking about what you yourself are doing it would probably be better to outline what the other team is doing wrong? but then you run into a similar problem that others have mentioned: pointing out what the other team is doing wrong is pretty pointless when you're playing against silvers/golds because you can only tell people how to soak lanes in so many different ways
Good input! And the last part is so true...
Also endlessly brawling, while losing xp on the lanes, then losing those fights because you suddenly are 1-2 levels behind.
In my experience, telling people multiple times leads to deaf ears. Now i just write once, and when we lose, remind them that langing is important to ganing xp.
True , in low rank or in QM , newer play tank or suport , its waste af ... noone clean camps , noone clean camps wave ... just take dmg kharazim / 2X 1H warrian or any bruiser build and u are fine . Hots comunity is really stupid .
Whats the point of this video? Varian has other ultis except twin blades?
Πες τα ρε φιλε! Ολοι μας εχουν ζαλισει με το nerf του twin blades που εγινε εδω και 2 χρονια σχεδον! Τα αλλα specs θελουν συγκεκριμενο team composition τις περισσοτερες φορες, ενω το twin blades ταιριαζει παντου! Τρομερο sustained damage, self healing και μπορεις να γυρισεις το παιχνιδι μονος σου, ειδικα με camps και boss capture!
@@half101080 οπα ελληνας?
Personally I enjoy watching the low ranks videos, but if you the majority prefers the more advanced ones, I am also happy with that. Ultimately you should make the videos you want, we'll enjoy them nevertheless.
I hate Varian so much.
I usually like your content, but I really don't like watching high lvl players playing against much less skilled players. Too many of your vids are this content recently.
a lot of low ranks players like us are interested to learn what we can do to carry the game in order to climb
there are a lot of high vs high contents allover the youtube, please allow us the majority peasants to have at least a few high vs low contents here, its actually quite educational to us
@@lone4896 Most of the basics can be taught through a high lvl video, no need to stomp low ranks to teach you, its just not a realistic scenario, as long as you pay attention and he explains and develops his gameplay, you'll learn the same or more.
@@CondeDrareg Strongly disagree to be honest. There is a huge difference in macro gameplay between high and low ranks. Knowing how to counter high rank strategies are completely useless for us low ranks since all those strategies and thought processes would go straight down the drain. In order to carry low rank games we need to learn from someone who can actually carry a low rank game.
@@CondeDrareg Ahahah watch someone who doesnt side-step and you miss your shot because you overestimated them. Or you expect them to clean camps first but you die cause they didnt. OR you expect your team to attack, stunned out of position enemy tank but they keep trying to focus falstad and falstad flies away safely, enemy tank lives, stuns your whole team... You should know what your team is capable of, what they think. They are not good players. They will trash talk you even when you are winning, playing good... You need to endure some stupidity. And you need to see mistakes of bad players to learn. "Oh I do this too, its a mistake?" Idk, there are much to it. Some heroes can be so broken in low ranks. Sometimes you get a samuro who doesnt even soak lanes. Just aimlessly taking camps. Some of the players are just glorified lane minions who will only attack and push forward. You gotta see those situations to know what will you do, what heroes are better to play in low ranks. "Dont focus the tank, focus valla, focus morales" Low rank gods have spoken.
Uther video....
1. Against a main tank Anub shield scatter is nice.
2. Do a mid rank where you dont stack with a 2nd player
I like your content, but get why we hate the fact you are doing a "educational" video with a 2nd player.
Dunno how you dont get flamed all game for not being with team during obj, if i did that i would get blamed non stop for doing that..
I'll have to point out one aspect of this "Carrying to Masters" or "Getting out of low ranks" series I think should be improved upon. I think the reason behind so many complaints about smurfing is because NotParadox wins these games too easily. Of course, some of it can be attributed to the snowball effect, but the problem is that NotParadox presents a complete package for each hero. I think doing it more step-by-step with self-imposed challenges could alleviate some of the disconnect with the viewers these videos are addressing. For example, NotParadox only commits when it is "safe", most of the time, but a lot of lower ranked players just don't know how to estimate the risk of these engagements beforehand. They usually have little map awareness and little to no camera movement going on.
I've been talking about self-imposed challenges, so I think it's time to deliever some examples:
1. Block out the minimap*.
2. Always keep the camera locked on the hero.
3. Normal cast only, no quick cast. That ways, those players have an easier time seeing when you're using which ability.
4. No use of the chat function.
These are most likely not the only restrictions one could apply. With those in place, the idea is to lift one of them for each showcase match and focus on how to make use of that aspect, which should illustrate why it is so important and how correctly using it can gain your team advantages.
* It's fine if the minimap is still visible for the viewers. That depends on the setup. If NotParadox is playing in fullscreen mode, he could cut out a piece of paper/cardboard to cover the right bottom edge of his screen. This would actually be preferably as the viewers of the video can retrace where/when NotParadox could've avoided those positioning mistakes.
If it makes the commentary easier, it's fine to record the match and then record commentary over it. HotS replays sadly can't show player-specific data like their mouse positioning or the range indicators as they "hold" an ability, so they'd make for a poor replacement.
I don't really see the point of these low rank stomps, I would rather see "advanced" videos where I can learn something new
Don't mind low ranks since he's still showing macro decisions but stomps are just stomps and not really interesting.
"I'm picking my battles, because it's really important that you don't just go and start attacking something in a 2vs5" - Not Paradox
Average QM Varian player: *with no tank in the team, he goes Twin Blades in a 1vs5 scenario against Arthas, Anubarak, Johanna or any other TB Varian counter* LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JEEEEEEEENKINS!
Stop it, get some help!
Almost every build from any character is good when you're smurfing in silver as GM... Kinda pathetic imo
The moment you start playing without a premade team, I will start taking your advice seriously
This game at least was a solo queue ranked game. The rest of his team is stacked, but how is that a criticism of him? You don't choose who you match with.
@@votalis4089 This game he was solo but he had 4 stacks playing along with. It'd be helpful if he recorded another game where he got a bunch of random players, and then if he can win with that, it'd be valuable. Seriously Idk why NotParadox always show games that he was in a 4 5 stacks, making the video less interesting, cuz everyone knows when you're in a team of 5 vs a bunch of randoms, team of 5 always win.
"That's interesting, I can only parry...attacks."
Is this an educational video or just a video showing you thinking out loud?
You said silver/gold? Bye.
I can see the difference between Russian+East Europe vs this low ranks. Your players are shit but very good in comand plays. Our players are ridiculously good as a player and total shit in general cooperation.
omfg everything gets wins in low rank, stop acting like these strats are ground-breaking.
some people could really benefit hearing this. i know people thathave been playing this game for years and dont understand anything but trying to fight
No please no. Dont fomment this
Curious about the title so I decided to click. But wow, a premade team vs a bunch of random. One has the benefit of not having a troll, get to have a good comp without anyone fighting each other and better teamwork + people listen to pings and one doesn't have any of those. Yeah, I don't see the point of watching this video.