Safe Spaces and the Coddling of American Students, with Dr. Everett Piper
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2023
- When any culture starts calling good evil and evil good, Truth is the only rebellion left, says Dr. Everett Piper who served as president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University for 17 years. Dr. Piper joins the podcast to discuss how American colleges have gone from places that teach and challenge students, to facilities that coddle them and leave them fragile and easily offended. He talks about the radical departure from truth our culture has taken, and how Christians can speak up with courage and conviction.
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“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.”
― St. Antony the Great
Excellent discussion! I just shared this with my non-religious daughter in her junior year at a secular university. I hope to God she watches it!
Keep praying for her. It took 20 years but I eventually came around to the truth. I’m so grateful now for the prayers.
@@clusmanfamily1155 ditto…👏🏾
Keep praying! I'm praying for you both as well. I didn't come to Jesus until two years after I graduated college. My family never stopped discipling me and praying for me, and it paid off.
I hope she continues to think for herself sounds like she will.
Being rewarded for being offended can lead to victimhood instead of being responsible for your own emotions and actions. The key to overcoming such ineptitude is forgiveness.
I heard out of Dr. Piper's mouth, almost word-for-word some thoughts that have been formulating in my own mind as I've been observing our culture. Thank you for this EXCELLENT interview diagnosing the times.
Wow! What an wonderful discussion. I will have to go back and listen again many times. Dr. Piper is so intelligent and easy to understand. Thank you so much for this video Alisa! Keep up the good work!
This was absolutely FANTASTIC… thank you 🙏🏻❤️
Great interview. So thankful for both of you who run to the storm on a daily basis. I am encouraged by this message. I thank God for you both.
So good, Thank you Alisa and Dr. Piper. Love that quote "run towards the storm not away from it"...be like a Buffalo ❤
Thank you for this discussion. Yes, check out all levels of Christian education before enrolling your children. Many of our Christian schools in Canada are implementing a Respecting Diversity: sexuality and gender Identity ' policies. Many parents have protested the policies as they have been written, but school boards seem unwilling to even discuss changes to the policies. Some parent committees have had to take legal action to even open the discussion as the school administration was unwilling to cooperate. I fear that is where it will also go in the school I currently work. The comfort is that God know all. He is sovereign.
The timing of this topic presented with its content is like fresh manna from God.
So we’ll presented.
Thank you
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Amazing segment with Dr Pipper thank you so much❤
I'm a school bus driver. Horrible. These kids have NO clue. I drive 3 routes. High school through elementary school. I never knew how bad it could be. I'm in a "good" area too! Drugs, weapons, cursing, vandalism, trashing everything. Disrespectful, lying, stealing, on and on. Even a few jumping out of windows. I kid you not. Some have even assaulted drivers. I could go on and on. What really amazes me is the arrogance and pride of some of them. They are not at all prepared for the real world. In truth, no one prepared for this!!!
The Bible says there comes a day when men will even call good evil, and evil good. Seems that day has now come. So it's back to the Bible for me.
@@stephengiles2052 The Bible is ALWAYS RIGHT! AMEN!
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After Roman's 1:26-28 comes verses 29-31. :( We don't usually read the next few verses into today's culture, but they fit perfectly.
Excellent!! Dr.Piper hitting all those nails without fear!! Thank you, thank you 🙏
Very very good points. I really enjoyed this, Alisa! Thank you.
Great guest Alisa, great discussion. You do a great job informing us on your channel.
What a great interview!!! This man is very intelligent and so easy to understand! Thank you so much!!
This was so wonderful to hear this man!!
Thank you, Alisa! Your podcast is always so informative and inspirational! You are an excellent host and expositor all on your own and then you add excellent guests. Thank you and God bless you!
Truthful and excellent!!!
Thank you!!! Very Good! A must listen to! 🙏🏼
Wow, SO good!! Thank you both.
This was excellent. Loved this. Thank you.
One of the best interviews I have ever seen! Great job Alisa and Dr. Piper.
Dr. Piper, please speak to the president of Whitworth University in Spokane, WA, a Presbyterian college. I’m sad that my alma mater has strayed from their mission of teaching God’s truth. A few years ago they canceled Ben Shapiro and then this month would not allow a Chinese American share her experience of survival under Mao’s China. I’m shocked they wouldn’t welcome her to speak at chapel.
Thank you for this great discussion! Also appreciate the questions to share with my kids as they look into colleges.
So good..!
What an amazing discussion! So many good points made here.
This Godly man reminds me of certain Christian leaders I knew when I was younger who used to be rather common in churches. People who loved enough to demand accountability and expected more from young people. We must crave Biblical goodness over "safety."
As to beginnings; I remember in HS and undergrad in the 70's having the attitude "I pay your salary". I was a child of the late 60's and thought questioning any authority was the the right thing to do. This "you work for me" point of view made the questioning legitimate. Sad that my mainline church did not provide Christ centered teaching on this instead of tacit approval. Great discussion. Thank you both. Will read Radical Son: A Generational Odyssey.
Wow... great interview!
This is SO GOOD!
Her father must be so proud of her. I loved him in love song. She is brilliant at doing this and her parents must be pleased she shares their faith.
This was brilliant ‼️‼️😀🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Excellent!
Super interesting stuff. Thanks for doing what you do! I love being introduced to new people, my summer book list is getting long. 😅
I LOVE Dr. Evertt Piper…he has his own podcast, called, “The Rebellion”…always an engaging speaker with common sense talking points & sound biblical foundation.
Excellent stuff 👍👍👍
Yes!!!!
Hi, Alisa! Just to answer your question about whether gymnastics life has changed: I am also a gymnast and my coaches are similar to yours. They push us to get back up and do it again because it’s going to get us where we want to go (I want to get back up and do it again anyway🤗) My coaches are tough but they are not uncaring people- they care enough to help gymnasts reach their goals.
I love what you said about your willingness to lose because we just may . But what we are fighting for are souls. I could go down a rabbit hole regarding this starting with " everyone gets a trophy" in youth sports. Instead of teaching them to earn 1 st place and to lose gracefully. Ughhhggg it's a horrible practice. I know a kid who has a room full of participation ribbons not one of them not win, place or show, ( sorry been watching the triple crown horse racing). Parents out kids in sport just to occupy their time not because they have a gifting in athletics. Kids are just handed things instead of earning them . How is that helpful. CODDLING TO THE EXTREME IS WHAT US RUINING THE NEXT GENERATION 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🛐🛐🛐🛐✝️🔥✝️💪🏼❤️
This was amazing❤
Just so you guys know- Riley Gaines is definitely a Christian. She discussed her faith in Jesus on CBN news!
23:41 Riley Gaines is a Christian I believe. I've listened to a few interviews with her and I think she has talked about her faith.
Yes! She discussed her faith on CBN News recently!
Amazing video
I have never heard of "safe spaces" when i went to college. I am not sure what it is, but uncomfortable ideas should be challenged not muted.
48:10 great questions!
Dr Piper: I don’t care about being safe. I care about goodness.
Alyssa: That’s good.
Alyssa always uses that phrase when she’s in agreement, but in this case I ALOLd 😂
Last 10-15 minutes!! Especially helpful
Probably the BEST video I have ever heard .
Technical difficulties... I normally listen on Google Podcasts, but the audio was all janky on this one, and it kept getting interrupted by clips from a wrestling podcast. (It wasn't a Bluetooth issue; we checked.) I like professional wrestling, but that's not why I listen to Alisa's show. 🤦♀️ It was too annoying to continue, so I came over to the RUclips version.
(31:48) _The lgbtq narrative is that we are defined subjectively rather than objectively. That we're going to define ourselves by our feelings rather than the facts. That if you feel it, that is who you are. In other words we've made human identity nothing but the sum total of human inclinations, passions, proclivities, ... your libido defines you . Christians of all people should understand that we must be defined by our Lord not our libido. If we are in Christ, we are a new creation-behold the old has gone the new has come. We must be born again. You mustn't be too easily satisfied with being "born that way". The whole message of the Gospel is that when you're baptized you die and you rise again with life in Jesus Christ. So the the old person with its passions, proclivities, inclinations are the antithesis of what it means to be a human being especially within the church_
-Dr. Everett Piper
Yes yes on the hearing safe all the time. I want to be safe, but that’s just selfishness if I don’t want to follow Jesus and receive his goodness/righteousness
You call it felling “ uncomfortable “. I call it being “ rebellious “, because his Mommy and Daddy allowed this sort of thing at home.
School board members have too much power
Tyrants and angry mobs do not accept apologies even if they're sincere
Our lawyers and judges and government are directly responsible for this insanity. When this initially started a caring leader any leader should have said that your problem psychological and spiritual. Instead we make laws to condone this under the guise of inclusion. Unfortunately that won't work in God's kingdom. I'm praying for these people who have been led astray mainly by our universities and the internet.
I would put the Premodern, Modern and Postmodern thing this way:-
Premodern = Supernatural
Modern = Natural
Postmodern = UNNATURAL.
While the first two are based on reality, the third is completely divorced from any kind of reality.
I am really a bastard so true God help me. A bastard of mishojini.😮😢😢😢
Your right the gates of hell will not prevail and God has also promised that His saints will not go through the worst that is yet to come
And if Jesus’s words are true then the world will not prevail and Christians won’t disappear till the proper time .
The “worst that is yet to come” is the cups of Wrath. The tribulation will be bad, but not the worst. Not as bad as Gods Wrath.
Lol! He mentioned my Alma Mater, Emory. It was like that in the 90s.😂
I am about 3 miles from the Emory campus, plus all my doctors are at Emory. Absolute WOKE capital of the South.
@@carolcole570 I believe it. It was such a culture shock to me when I went there.
@@Wentletrap213 And today, the whole of Atlanta is quickly becoming a culture shock.❤️
@@carolcole570 I wasn’t too impressed when I lived there. Apparently, the two malls I used to frequent aren’t even safe anymore.
@@Wentletrap213 It has been maybe 30 years since I have been in a mall here, Stephanie. Just my choice, however I feel positive that you are 100% correct. Yet, oddly, the older folks are still the same, no matter the race……..warm, friendly, brotherly, considering all Southerners as brothers and sisters no matter your race. It is the Woke professors that are guided by Soros who indoctrinate the young folks and stir them into rioting, disrespect of everything living whether human or animal that now call the shots. But, this is exactly how God told us it would be in these End Times, so, as long as you can keep this in mind, you will be able to let it roll off your back like water off a duck’s back. I go out in daylight, but never at dark. I live alone, am armed if needed, and pray that we will SOON hear that trumpet blast to take us Home. Carol, from Atlanta
Boot camp for the military has gone soft...
🥶 Well, their goes our military!
Never bow the knee even among people who claim to follow Christ.
hit like 😁🥰
Alisa, please follow Chloe Cole or better yet have her on your podcast.
😊remember not a single Christian who willingly gave their lives for the sake of the gospel ever lost any thing. Especially when God has promised new bodies!😊
Jesus was OK with a little lying here and there.
John 7:8-10 "You go to the festival. I am not going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come." After he had said this, he stayed in Galilee. However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.
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Luke 9:27 "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God."
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@@sanjeevgig8918 nice try. Seeing the Kingdom of God was seeing Christ risen from the dead, and raised to His authority as High Priest. A fulfillment of prophecy.
@@sanjeevgig8918 You need to read this scripture, it was written just for you, Matthew 22: 29-33
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@@stellarjayatkins4749 The JEWS are laughing at you.
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@@sanjeevgig8918 satan isn’t laughing but he’s really pissed and certainly waiting for you and those Jews who laugh.
That laughing will turn into weeping and torment, an eternal separation from anything God.
Choose salvation through the one and only Jesus Christ , repent and receive his salvation today.
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Haha yeah I remember the Harry Potter game boycott, that sure didn't work out for them 🤣 I don't play this stuff but I takes me happy to see cancel culture foiled
Or...perhaps your 15 minute speaker should have invited himself to the Zechius wannabes house for dinner, as He was obviously eager to listen and learn. He did climb the OK tree.
The "gates of hell will not prevail" line is from the end of days, so I wouldn't count on it to apply to your daily life.
And actually, the proper translation is supposed to be "the gates of hell will not withstand". God is on the offensive, not defensive.
Sure, push through pain, unless the source is as you've said, "perverted," as so much of what passes as 'healthy' 'equitable' 'faithlike' 'freedomloving' even "patriotic". Being educated about those you intend to evangelize matters as well, as you might find at Wesleyan in CT. Maybe the two university presidents should have a beer summit and educate each other. Who knows what improvements might result for both institutions.
It has to grieve Jesus to see women so cancelled! He made us and died for us!
All that stuff is garbage and it is all so evil
As a former evangelical Christian, this scares the shit out of me. I know what I escaped, if the whole country becomes a theocracy we are all doomed.
Grace and Peace to you. May I contact you via Email or Facebook to discuss this further?
His position is fundamentally flawed. He claims to be against safe spaces and for free speech in colleges. However, he concludes his argument by telling parents to make sure to send their adult children to colleges that will not challenge their beliefs. This infantilization is exactly what he claims to be against.
I think you misunderstand his position. He recommends finding out if a college questions popular ideologies behind things like BLM, CRT, etc or if they've bought in & teach these ideas as truth without regard for scripture.
That's exactly my point. He says college isn't a daycare. Sending your 18-year-old to a college that exists to perpetuate your own specific religious ideology IS coddling them and treating them like children.
@Melanie no, sending your kids to a college that only teaches the current secular ideologies without discussions of an alternative Biblical worldview is indoctrination. Most colleges now teach a one-sided secular view. Dr. Piper is saying to make sure the Christian college you're looking at has not succumbed to teaching secularized views without ALSO teaching how to discern issues according to scripture. This is not "infantilization." This is teaching them to think from more than one viewpoint.
Melanie, his position is not flawed. He stands on Biblical truth and is telling parents to check the beliefs of the school they send their children to. In addition, when a student does attend a Christian school, the truth will be taught and it may go against his or her previously held beliefs.
I actually agree with you. We cannot ask other people to do what we are not willing to do ourselves. If we want other people to face the challenge, we need to face our views being challenged, too. However, there is a fundamental difference in that our culture heavily leans towards one side and unless one decides to go full on Armish every Christian is confronted with different worldviews as soon as they take a step out of their door whereas most Non-Christians might live a mostly unconfronted life.
As the only professing Christian in my class (in a Catholic School) I was challenged to think about my faith critically throughout all of Middle and High School and I think I read a good deal of Non-Christian as well as straight out Atheistic literature. I don't think Piper doesn't want Christians to get challenged. I think he knows of the challenges Christians face every day and his emphasis is for people to check beforehand whether the University that states that they are "Christian" actually teaches Orthodox Christianity or some fake product. Not everything that says "Christian" actually has Christian in it. ;) But again I agree with you that we should let our views be challenged and hopefully it will help us understand one another better. Have a good one!
I don’t know that I agree with Jesus not being safe. 😬
I don't totally agree that all "safe spaces" are a bad thing. For example, men and women are intrinsically different and I think it's okay to have gender- specific Bible study groups. One caveat - oftentimes these groups are used as a gossip-fest. Typically women complaining about their husbands and children, which I don't think is okay. But this generation of everyone needing an echo chamber or a trigger warning has gotten out of hand entirely.
I believe that we are called to follow Jesus Christ and He was killed.
Yet that was and is a victory.
I believe many Christians don’t grasp that whether or not they die, they still win the victory either way.
From the world’s point of view, this is a defeat, but from God’s point of view it is a victory.
“Revelation 12:11 KJV
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”
True Christians run to the futile fight giggling in joy, because God wins those fights to prove His glory. Don’t ever fear the cult of Man, the woke mob. They have already lost the fight because Christ won on the cross. Start acting like it. When they persecute you have joy because when they do you know you are on the side of Christ, and if you are with Christ, He is with you, and if He is with you who can stand against you?
Origin of people i say God created in a Triune way everying in universe! Jesus was with the Father in beginning and is God Himself. Jesus part of creation!
As a Christian feminist myself, this was moving. Dr. Piper could not be more spot-on. This is exactly what sensible feminists have been saying about this ideology since the early 2010s. My advocacy for women and girls and my faith in Jesus as our Lord and Savior are inextricably intertwined, in the same exact way that abolitionists' love for Black Americans was intertwined with their faith. God commands us to love all and treat everyone with respect, including women, because women are image-bearers of God just as much as men. We have different roles, but that does not mean we are unequal in the eyes of God. If we pretend that we can become another sex, if we participate in the idea that "gender" exists, or if we say that males can become us, we are denigrating God's great design.
Because of your religion
Grace and Peace to you. May I contact you via Email or Facebook to discuss this further?
@@lark8356 I flicked you an email bro
@@troyr9357 Cool. I'll check it now.
@@troyr9357 I just responded.
@@lark8356 I didn’t write anything just checking if I had your email right and so you would have mine.
ULTIMATE Misogyny sign #2
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
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Even in the 20th century, this was not an uncommon custom in India where the couple are married off only in this case the man has to pay off the girl's father for the sin committed. No one else will marry her now and the guy is not allowed to escape his responsibility. The girl too had a chance to have her own family if she marries him.
@@dianaphilip3600 Typical Xtian. Rape Apologist.
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Most translations, all of them except this say he raped her. Women were property and rape was a property crime against the father primarily, not against the daughter. She was stuck marrying him whether she wanted to or not.
@@marcavus1 Thanks for typing out the standard Xtian morality.
@@sanjeevgig8918 standard translation plainly read. I looked over about 10 and only one did not use the word rape. So about 90% of translators got this wrong? Maybe. Apparently God was not concerned with the error because at least 90% of the time he did nothing about it. Cleary the men he ordained to do the work did not care. Either he is less concerned about this error than we are, (yes I would like to know is true regarding this issue) or he was powerless to do anything about it. Either way it results in potentially tens of millions of people being consused and mislead. Negligent, impotent, or absent. Which is it. What does your gut tell you? If the Holy Spirit has lead you into all truth as promised please tell me about it. I do want to know.
ULTIMATE Misogyny sign #1
Leviticus 27: 5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.
Leviticus 27: 6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.
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This chapter is about persons consecrated to God by a vow to work in the tabernacle and the price to pay when the person wants to end his or her service. The price is set according to a worker's price. A male is expected to do harder labour than a female and so his redeeming price is higher.
@@dianaphilip3600 Yes!, women were treated as second class citizens all through out the bible.
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Please...more talk about gender. I really haven't heard enough about it. Seriously, I doubt that "safe spaces" are really even a thing. Like your war on christmas. Alisa, keep up the inflammatory conversations to attract eyes and sell merchandise. I'm sorry for you that you can't be a better person.
Grace and Peace to you. May I contact you via Email or Facebook to discuss this further?
Could not have said it better. She also has said that it is not always bad to kill innocents. God does not do things because there hey are right. What God does, no matter how violent or outrageous, is right because accordy divine command theory God can do anything and not be wrong. This requires a psychopathic twisting of ones conscience. One thing the bible is right about is that conscisences can be hopelessly seared. I am afraid that is what we are seeing in Alisa Childers.
You have so much judgement and fear which is seperation ! I hope you realise the truth some day! You are creating this for yourself. The ego is the seperation of truth ( Satan). The illusion of truth ( lies).
Try actually reading the Bible. What you're preaching is basically new age, light and love.
You have embraced darkness. There can be no unity with darkness. Repent.
Grace and Peace to you. May I contact you via Email or Facebook to discuss this further?
@@lark8356 What do u want to discuss?
@@terrypaul7706 I have several questions about your statement and want to understand it better.