Hi! Long time no see. Here’s the question for today. When was the first time you heard the word goth? Which goth is your favourite? As mentioned, I first learnt the word “goth” as a fashion style. To be more specific, I learnt about Gothic Lolita first. Then the more I explore, the more I love things that are categorised as “goth”. Now I love reading classic gothic novels. So, if you have any recommendations or you just want to type down your favourites, feel free to do so.
I can't remember if I leared about the music, fashion, or literature first. But I do know that as a teen, I was obsessed with gothic lolita and I wanted so badly to look like Mana lol. (Currently, I wear a sweetish-classic style of lolita!) I also listened to Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, the Cure, Depeche Mode, Switchblade Symphony, Cranes, etc. And literature wise, I loved The Castle of Otronto, anything by Edgar Allen Poe, The Phantom of the Opera, and Frankenstein!
The first time I saw that word was on a cultural magazine that came with a newspaper when I was a young teenager, I think. The article was about the goth subculture, where young people were described as allowing themselves to feel and enjoy the darker side of life and thus more free, and also the clothing and music were mentioned. I was in love with them and I love the culture, music and style, even though I don't listen often to the bands, and don't dress on a gothic style. In Spanish the goths as in historical people and goths as cultural movement are described with two different (but somewhat similar) words, the first being "godos" and the second "góticos". So I only stumbled upon the confusion until I learned enough English.
Back in the middle 00's, i was fascinated by the metal scene but i was an avid reader of Anne Rice and anything dark and tense, i loved those things, but being broke as i was i could never dress "goth" enough. Fast forward some 15 years, i am in a stable job, and thinking i am too old for this, until i snap. That was stupid thinking of me, and then i followed my dreams to be the weird goth i always wanted to be. And now, i am eager to know more of the story of it all. Thanks for the video!
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really appreciate your videos, personally, as a fashion student who is so into the history of this industry, I learned a lot from your vids, especially the one that you talk about different types of gothic style. Looking forward the vid that you consider making about gothic literature!
The first time I heard the word was in the first year of high school: A teacher gave the task to talk about subcultures and countercultures, a classmate/friend of mine talked about the subculture, she was part of it. Thanks to Marina, me too.
I've just checked his paintings and they are so inspiring. The gothic with surrealistic style is exactly what I enjoy. Thank you so much for your suggestion.
I had the advantage(?????) of learning about Gothic literature (Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights) and then the Goth Tribe first due to being a fairly avid reader as a kid, so whenever someone got arguementative over what "real " goth is, which by them was a musical thing, I would simply ask do you know where the word "Goth" comes from? and that would render a surprising number of them speehcless. It was a petty move, I am very aware, but at least I could enjoy my all black look with a dash of colors and flowers in peace after that.
I agree i think the “ITS A MUSIC BASED SUBCULTURE” people are biased. Thats objectively the least interesting part of goth subculture. The music is also pretty shit for the most part… 😂 the fashion, the liberal political ideologies, the love for dark themes and messages, those are all more important than what music you listen to which literally affects no one but yourself. You cant make a political statement by listening to music in your own headphones, you make a political statement by standing out, rejecting norms, etc. to me the way goths dress up, partake in macabre hobbies, loudly and obviously displaying political messages of rebellion and individuality and anti-capitalism…. those are all more impactful than what songs you add to your private playlist. Not sure what current goths think they are accomplishing by listening to goth music or why they love to gatekeep the subculture so much, like sorry but the goths who dress up but dont listen to the music are STILL more goth than people who only listen to the music, because they are actively pushing against society’s boundaries and expectations, you are not if all u do is listen to a certain music genre.
I think the first time i learned about goths was from the cartoons that I watched. I like classical gothic architecture best best i think it presents the best through line for all renditions of Goth. On the outside it's intimidating, huge, and unabashed about itself and then when you go inside you see the resplendence of the style from the way light enters through the stained glass windows. A Feature that from the outside might have seemed strange but is finally understood once entered inside the church. The old germanic Goths from my readings sacked Rome because they felt like their needs weren't being heard by the distant roman states and they appreciation of the greek cultures was never realized.
This is exactly what I was hoping to find after becoming curious about the subject and then some! Thank you so much for this video. I hadn't realised or even guessed at the broad nature of being goth. Did the goth rock scene actually take their name as inspiration from older gothic movements, do you know? I might've missed something, admittedly. Either way, fantastic work on this. Love it!
Yes, many goth bands took inspiration from gothic literature. For example, the name Bela Lugosi in Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Death" is the name of the actor in Dracula (1931 film). Many other goth music explored the dark, haunting, love and loss theme similar the theme in the gothic literature. Glad you like the video, btw.
I live in North Poland my whole life and I never knew that the tribe that was here thousands years ago was the gothic tribe! Very interesting and informative video.
@@catabsis I'm sorry about her death, but I'm sure that her songs keeps going on into the music on the phones and records. Maybe I can be interested to the history of goth because I'm a Gothic christian, to be honest.
As someone who's pretty new to the scene and for actually believed a lot the stereotypes about goths (I was raised catholic lol) this was vary nice and hope to a my first club or festival soon:)
I first knew it as architecture style Then as a sub culture which at first I didn't like because what I thought is goth was actually emo Then I rediscovered goth subculture and consequently it's music and fell in love with it
There is also a spiritual tie to the pre-gothic pagan heritage of the Gaelic/Celtic people in modern goth culture. What survived of it after the cultural genocide of the Roman empire.
I’m Goth in more than one way, #1 my heritage hails from Gotland, which I was surprised to see mentioned in this however a little bit more on accuracy find that the Goths that sack the “Holy Roman Empire” we’re just goths the Ostrogoth and Visigoth came after. #2 got involved in the music sub-culture back in the late 80s early early 90s.. and never looked back. I’m not gonna lie when I initially heard that it has spread to being just a fashion statement. I rejected it at first. I saw a bunch of posers.. But I have come to see people who are of the aesthetic fashion wise. I try to introduce the music to so that they can enjoy the subculture as it is.
informative, just missing one vital point, you are or you aren't, it is z gift(or curse depeding howxyou look at it, currenly listening to sisters of mercy amphetime logic) , you are either born this way or nott, it is not a lifestyle choice, you are who you are ,ambrace it or die, never change who you are just fit in, just be you, life is too short and can be taken away in t
Hi! Long time no see. Here’s the question for today. When was the first time you heard the word goth? Which goth is your favourite?
As mentioned, I first learnt the word “goth” as a fashion style. To be more specific, I learnt about Gothic Lolita first. Then the more I explore, the more I love things that are categorised as “goth”. Now I love reading classic gothic novels. So, if you have any recommendations or you just want to type down your favourites, feel free to do so.
I have to be honest, I'm a Gothic christian.
I can't remember if I leared about the music, fashion, or literature first. But I do know that as a teen, I was obsessed with gothic lolita and I wanted so badly to look like Mana lol. (Currently, I wear a sweetish-classic style of lolita!)
I also listened to Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, the Cure, Depeche Mode, Switchblade Symphony, Cranes, etc.
And literature wise, I loved The Castle of Otronto, anything by Edgar Allen Poe, The Phantom of the Opera, and Frankenstein!
@@JasmineSheaTownsend I used to read Frankenstein the graphic novel.
The first time I saw that word was on a cultural magazine that came with a newspaper when I was a young teenager, I think. The article was about the goth subculture, where young people were described as allowing themselves to feel and enjoy the darker side of life and thus more free, and also the clothing and music were mentioned. I was in love with them and I love the culture, music and style, even though I don't listen often to the bands, and don't dress on a gothic style.
In Spanish the goths as in historical people and goths as cultural movement are described with two different (but somewhat similar) words, the first being "godos" and the second "góticos". So I only stumbled upon the confusion until I learned enough English.
@@LillaIgelkotten really?
Back in the middle 00's, i was fascinated by the metal scene but i was an avid reader of Anne Rice and anything dark and tense, i loved those things, but being broke as i was i could never dress "goth" enough.
Fast forward some 15 years, i am in a stable job, and thinking i am too old for this, until i snap. That was stupid thinking of me, and then i followed my dreams to be the weird goth i always wanted to be. And now, i am eager to know more of the story of it all. Thanks for the video!
I too love Metal. I would however make an effort to listen to the founding bands of the style. Metal=metalheads, punk=punk rock, Goth=Gothic Rock
Good to know that now you feel comfortable to express yourself and dress how you want.
"The Shadow Of Love" by the Damned was a definitive Goth anthem back in the day. I know some Goth historical reenactors... 😎
RUclips blessed your latest video with its algorithm and now I'm here. Hard to believe you only got 1.5k subs considering the quality of the videos. Your channel is a diamond in the rough
Thanks for your comment! This means a lot to me.
really appreciate your videos, personally, as a fashion student who is so into the history of this industry, I learned a lot from your vids, especially the one that you talk about different types of gothic style. Looking forward the vid that you consider making about gothic literature!
Glad you enjoy them! I'm also into gothic literature. So, though it won't be very soon, I plan to make one about this topic 🖤
Dressing in goth style for Halloween this year. Thanks for your research and information.
Happy to know it's helpful. Happy Halloween ^^
The first time I heard the word was in the first year of high school: A teacher gave the task to talk about subcultures and countercultures, a classmate/friend of mine talked about the subculture, she was part of it. Thanks to Marina, me too.
You might also appreciate the paintings of David Stoupakis, who was prominent in the Boston Goth scene in the 90s before relocating to NYC.
I've just checked his paintings and they are so inspiring. The gothic with surrealistic style is exactly what I enjoy. Thank you so much for your suggestion.
I had the advantage(?????) of learning about Gothic literature (Jane Eyre, Wuthering Heights) and then the Goth Tribe first due to being a fairly avid reader as a kid, so whenever someone got arguementative over what "real " goth is, which by them was a musical thing, I would simply ask do you know where the word "Goth" comes from? and that would render a surprising number of them speehcless. It was a petty move, I am very aware, but at least I could enjoy my all black look with a dash of colors and flowers in peace after that.
I agree i think the “ITS A MUSIC BASED SUBCULTURE” people are biased. Thats objectively the least interesting part of goth subculture. The music is also pretty shit for the most part… 😂 the fashion, the liberal political ideologies, the love for dark themes and messages, those are all more important than what music you listen to which literally affects no one but yourself. You cant make a political statement by listening to music in your own headphones, you make a political statement by standing out, rejecting norms, etc. to me the way goths dress up, partake in macabre hobbies, loudly and obviously displaying political messages of rebellion and individuality and anti-capitalism…. those are all more impactful than what songs you add to your private playlist. Not sure what current goths think they are accomplishing by listening to goth music or why they love to gatekeep the subculture so much, like sorry but the goths who dress up but dont listen to the music are STILL more goth than people who only listen to the music, because they are actively pushing against society’s boundaries and expectations, you are not if all u do is listen to a certain music genre.
ostrogoths and visigoths always in my heart
Your animation is so fantastic!!! I love thattt🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Thanks! 💜
I think the first time i learned about goths was from the cartoons that I watched. I like classical gothic architecture best best i think it presents the best through line for all renditions of Goth. On the outside it's intimidating, huge, and unabashed about itself and then when you go inside you see the resplendence of the style from the way light enters through the stained glass windows. A Feature that from the outside might have seemed strange but is finally understood once entered inside the church. The old germanic Goths from my readings sacked Rome because they felt like their needs weren't being heard by the distant roman states and they appreciation of the greek cultures was never realized.
This is exactly what I was hoping to find after becoming curious about the subject and then some! Thank you so much for this video. I hadn't realised or even guessed at the broad nature of being goth. Did the goth rock scene actually take their name as inspiration from older gothic movements, do you know? I might've missed something, admittedly. Either way, fantastic work on this. Love it!
Yes, many goth bands took inspiration from gothic literature. For example, the name Bela Lugosi in Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Death" is the name of the actor in Dracula (1931 film). Many other goth music explored the dark, haunting, love and loss theme similar the theme in the gothic literature. Glad you like the video, btw.
@@kjrasa Thank you, sorry. I completely forgot to reply back x
I love your channel! The videos are well explained and the art is great as well!
Love your vids. Back in the days,my people called the look Witch.Children of the night.
Nice job! Thank you for sharing it! 🦇
Glad to know you like this!
I live in North Poland my whole life and I never knew that the tribe that was here thousands years ago was the gothic tribe! Very interesting and informative video.
Your videos are very well made and I really enjoy them.
Thanks for watching. Happy to know you enjoy them.
I rellay like your videos. Keep it up!
I'm gonna cry, talking about goth rock without mentioning Nico? She's already so overlooked c'mon smh
Why don’t people remember her?
Who's Nico?
@@elizabethcollins9815 The secret mother of goth. She wrote songs only while laying in the bathtub surrounded by candles
@@boring_cringename is she still alive?
@@catabsis I'm sorry about her death, but I'm sure that her songs keeps going on into the music on the phones and records. Maybe I can be interested to the history of goth because I'm a Gothic christian, to be honest.
As someone who's pretty new to the scene and for actually believed a lot the stereotypes about goths (I was raised catholic lol) this was vary nice and hope to a my first club or festival soon:)
I first knew it as architecture style
Then as a sub culture which at first I didn't like because what I thought is goth was actually emo
Then I rediscovered goth subculture and consequently it's music and fell in love with it
To think that goth was a movement originally but not a specific style
then they named it, then it became a style
Then it became a movement
There is also a spiritual tie to the pre-gothic pagan heritage of the Gaelic/Celtic people in modern goth culture. What survived of it after the cultural genocide of the Roman empire.
I’m Goth in more than one way, #1 my heritage hails from Gotland, which I was surprised to see mentioned in this however a little bit more on accuracy find that the Goths that sack the “Holy Roman Empire” we’re just goths the Ostrogoth and Visigoth came after.
#2 got involved in the music sub-culture back in the late 80s early early 90s.. and never looked back.
I’m not gonna lie when I initially heard that it has spread to being just a fashion statement. I rejected it at first. I saw a bunch of posers.. But I have come to see people who are of the aesthetic fashion wise. I try to introduce the music to so that they can enjoy the subculture as it is.
How accurate are the goth characters that are portrayed in South Park? ;)
the blink of an eye
🇰🇵 North Korea: i like Goth and Also Emo ♡
how about the duomo di Milano, is it a revival?
YAAAAAAEEEH DARIA COHEN YEEESSH
Why are the barbarians wearing guyliner?
The first time I heard the word goth was on The Craft.
As the emo Christian growing up. I’m glad to know I could’ve just been goth the whole time
🖤
Please please please add the Arabic translation in the automatic translation option in this video pleaseeee, and thank you🖤🖤
Was there such thing as Rad Goth?
The first rule of Goth Club is
I always wear black,hides the dirt.
I tell people its to hide the blood.
It makes the black, glossy.
@@benderchump if they're glossy when I see them at the thrift store, I'm buying them.
Goth. Is called in India Jat
BLOOOOODBOOOOORNE
Vovong kapitbahay: Di ka goth pag di ka nakaget ng syota. Mag isa ka lang, Di ka goth. Kami goth na matagal na kami nagkapamilya.
*sigh*
Jut,jat,jaat,Goth. All are same
informative, just missing one vital point, you are or you aren't, it is z gift(or curse depeding howxyou look at it, currenly listening to sisters of mercy amphetime logic) , you are either born this way or nott, it is not a lifestyle choice, you are who you are ,ambrace it or die, never change who you are just fit in, just be you, life is too short and can be taken away in t
Huns were also goths
No.