Arsenal did not do enough to keep Ashley Cole. I appreciate David Dean’s admission. Wenger will not admit to something like that. Arsenal lost its identity when the team moved out of highbury.
@@_7.8.6 Fergie and Gill being great has nothing to do with Dean and Wenger's legacy. There are better people than you in this world, should your life be ignored and diminished?
I think he's the best LB . Period! Some say Carlos, but as much as i loved Carlos i compare him a it to TAA. Not the best at defense. Ashley Cole on the other hand was first and foremost a defender and damn what a good one he was.
Forget at the Emirates, him & the other four deserve something in Trafalgar square, after the royals, it's the country's biggest export & without it there's be a massive drop in income
@@thecyclingbean6806 We will see buddy I'm a pessimistic tbf we'll probably finish 5th again. I know you hate them but I dream of a day where Arsenal, United & Liverpool are on top at the same time the holy trinity of English football these oil club's make me sick 😫
Blimey Talksport, when are you going to sort out the volume level on the intro/outro .. if you forget to turn down at the end it's burst eardrums everytime! Apart from that, great content as always guys, thanks.
Absolutely spot on comment, he sat down and refused to play or be subbed the following season as well didn't he? And that was berrgkamps no none of it made sense lol
@@kennywilkinson913 I don’t think galas refused to play but he was never captain material and he didn’t carry himself that way on the pitch or represent the club properly. Tantrums are not befit of captains. I always muse that had Kolo Toure been given the arm band (or just kept Ashley Cole) we might’ve convinced his baby brother to come to arsenal and do what he did for us what he did for Manchester City.
huge respect to David Dein for saying sorry to Ashley Cole. Cole have go on to win major honors and became one of the legendary left back in the world.. but the fact is he was raised with the arsenal DNA. I hope one day he can visit and at least talk to the academy players and share his experiences. dun stay at Chelsea they have no history. sold lukaku as a teenager and buy him back at 100M and then loan him out again.. I am waiting for them to buy KDB for 150M from mancity when he is in his 30s and then loan him back to Belgium.
Can someone please explain why they aren't live on RUclips in the morning till afternoon now?????? Must of asked about 500 times now could of replied talksport or anyone
Fair play to Dein for his explanation. Although am a born Arsenal supporter through and through, I understand why Ashley left, although I’ve booed him ever since. Ashley’s was more to do with promises that Dein made him. Ashley wanted more money but accepted Dein’s offer of 60k a week. Only for his agent to call two weeks later to say Dein had charged his mind and now offering 55k!!
Cole leaving really hurt at the time but I've mellowed on it now and acknowledge that he was great for Arsenal. I wish things had turned out differently
@@Wonderkid44 nah, RvP only had one good season left in him and we were too reliant on him anyway. As soon as he left, other players stepped up. Cole hurt more because he was a local boy who came up through the ranks.
They might not have done enough to keep but having secret meetings with Chelsea while still on contract with Arsenal was totally disrespectful. He is still Cashley for that reason.
Not quite sure of the politics behind the scenes at the club which led to his departure but always thought David Dein should still be employed in some capacity there.
Good to see Simon on mute and learning from an old school visionary. Mr Dean I stopped supporting when they appointed an amateur manager, but in truth... AFC were no longer serious after the outstanding service you produced. Great man!
An amateur manager who genuinely loves the club and is bring back the values it holds which Dein himself tried to install and keep in the club Dein wasn't and isn't the be all end all of Arsenal. Deserves all the praise for what he done but let's not act like he was the one who made Arsenal who they are
@King Darwin Didn't you hear him? He sold his shares to Usmanov who was Kroenke's biggest rival at the time. How does that translate to him being a big part in Kroenke takeover?
Simon sound very bitter against Dein in his book, saying that Dein can even sell him a player with half his leg already broken and have Simon overpaid their wages. That's why players loved Dein, he really took care of them. There are certainly begrudging respect from Simon Jordan on Dein ability.
@King Darwin I heard that, but he did not end up selling to Kroenke but his rival. How can you then accuse him of being part of those that facilitated Kroenke takeover? If anything, he stalled the Kroenke complete takeover when he sold his shares to Usmanov.
@@scott2222 Bringibg back what values? Being happy with top 6? What about on the pitch... He's winging it as a manager and will never win anything significant.
Im an evertonian baaed in Liverpool and I dont follow arsenal closely but when arsenal planned their new stadium I'm sure Dein said the funding of it wouldn't effect money available for transfers. Now he's saying it was a concern. I wonder now if efc are lying to our fans now. Our stadium is coincidentally arriving just as we are cutting our wage bill dramatically and having two summers of net gain transfers
@@antpatto7524 our wage bill was barely half that of city,lfc,Utd and Chelsea and 100m a year behind arsenal. It was 180m a year when Rafa come in to start cutting it. It’s been slashed again this summer. Lfc,Utd and city are always around £320m to £350m. Our highest transfer is about 45m. The top five clubs have paid more than that for keepers and have made at least five signings well in excess of £50m. It’s a total myth we’ve overspent. We’ve spent like we are the seventh biggest club in the prem. in terms of revenue we easily are. In terms of history we are number one. In terms of trophies we are fourth.
Without Dein no Premier League. Gave us wenger and the modern coaches. The Arsenal made the League and dragged you with them. Carried The League until Roman and Sheiks. Never forget. Since Herbert Chapman we lead.
@@mikem8211 you must be blind.. the gent said Arsenal carried the league NOT United & arsenal. Arsenal last won the league when the Motorola RAZR v1 was the thing to have. United have won 13 premier League titles arsenal have won 3...
Let me put everyone in this comment section to rest. Here is what happened: (1) the premier league began in 1992. (2) Manchester United dominated the league. It was a farmers league. (3) along that domination you had one upset loss where Blackburn won it in 1995. (4) Newcastle started to show talent in order to challenge United’s dominance, but that spark went out after a few seasons. (5) Arsenal mustered up a rivalry to United in the late 90s to improve the league’s competitiveness and won the league. Everyone knew that this uprise couldn’t continue forever because United were too well established at this point. (6) at this point, the premier league is not number one in the world. The better leagues are Serie A and la liga. (7) In comes Roman abramovich with his wealth. United are no longer guaranteed to win every season. The wealth of Chelsea brings in all the big stars and managers from around the world. It’s no longer just about United. (8) the league improves because of oil money (mostly) and the premier league catapults to the top. Learn your history kids.
I like how David days it needs to be kept fair, but the whole point of the super league was to give the big clubs their fair share, moreso to the eu clubs who are now at such a disadvantage die to the money. Bayern are the only well run club, but even they'll soon have trouble when players choose Norwich over them. I'm not saying I sorted it just to be clear, I just don't think it write gets the hate it deserves when you look at the reasoning. I off course still want merit to determine the outcome, but financial doing needs to stop to, by empires & billionaires as well as providing from the poor
This for all the deluded Arsenal fans calling the guy 'Cashly Cole' here is your former chairman admitting that they mugged him off and it was the club's fault he left
True story I met John Terry going into the Arsenal training ground and he said he was singing for Arsenal .. the week before abramovic took over Chelsea !
@@Pwnziillaaaa Well he was at Chelsea from the age of 14, and I know he was a regular in the first team for several years before he came but let's be honest, I'm sure some chelsea fans thought Abramovich coming would mean the end of Terry's time at the club and that they would buy a more accomplished centre back cause Terry hadn't really achieved much at that point
Yeah ,but where is this huge investment into the Premier League going . 1.5 billion spent in the last transfer window. .... the REST of Europe £250 mill . Sporting Lisbon buy players in the 2.5 mill to 8 mill bracket.... and thump Spurs , who had 3 hundred million worth , sitting on the bench . What is going on?
David Dein is an honourable man, who catapulted Arsenal to great success, but why is he suddenly and simultaneously appearing on multiple football platforms in the UK - Talksport, Sky Sports, etc? What is going on here? Is he being showcased for a knighthood?
He released his autobiography this month. There was a big release event that ex Arsenal legends attended. I guess this is a way for him to drum up support and interest in him (well overdue and deserved in my opinion).
The Premier League was always going to be good for the hardy perennials in football. It took all the money that went down the pyramid and through the league. The strong got stronger and the weak got weaker. Even when relegated you get payments so you are not competing fairly with your neighbours. The mistake the league made was not to insist all clubs have a modern stadiums with a 30,000 capacity and if you don't have it you don't get in.
I'd love to know what Mr. Dein thinks of Man City cheating FFP and not being punished by the PL or FA. They are after all still benefiting from that cheating.
Simon's Netflix of football isn't Simons idea. Ted Turner had a model of owning content and distribution back in the 90's. Its a model that's been working great for lots of people. Stop this Simon's idea crap.
@@danielberry4765 My point is no one gives af about American sports & what WCW Ted did it went over your head we don't saw swoosh in the UK you absolute 100% certified tool
If in a Queens reign Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with Racism,Islamophobia - not Equally Sternly dealt with,Prevalent On Queens passing - Blacks and Browns must Mourn,show Respect?😂
Wow what a sorry spectacle this is . All this grovelling to this supercilious super smooth rich self publicist with the purest of pure hearts that ever existed . Yes Dein loved Arsenal so much that he sold his 15% stake in the club to the highest bidder . I guess that's what is called true love eh ? And let's not forget how arrogant and duplicitous Arsenal and their fans were under Dein and Wenger . Somehow Dein ,Wenger and Arsenal as a whole reminds me of Tony Blair and New Labour : devils masqueradeing as Angels.
It makes perfect sense for the Premier League to setup their own Netflix style streaming service. Once their deals are up, they should 100% start their own service. Imagine paying £20 or something and being able to watch any Premier League game you want.. That HAS to be the future of football in this country. The prices you have to pay for Sky, BT, Amazon just to watch some football is absolutely ridiculous. It’s no wonder everyone resorts to streaming. Edit: When I say £20 I mean a monthly subscription fee of £20, meaning you can watch as many Premier League games you like for that amount. Not £20 per a one off game.
@@johnmitchell2269 Sky and BT have contracts not rights... which can be run down by Premier League to choose what they wanna do next. I think 2025 is the end of the current contract with Premier league tv rights.
@@RT-zk7yr why do you choose that figure? You are thinking of pay per view on things like boxing - think wider - it wouldn’t be pay per view it would be a subscription - a flat fee to watch as many games as you want both live or after the event - think how many people pay for Sky just for the Prem games - meanwhile the other coverage on Sky just gets worse and worse - if I was charged £30 a month for Prem footie I would drop Sky tomorrow
We need David Dein back in some sort of capacity him Edu and Arteta would be magnificent. David Dein did so much for the Premier league people don't even know the input he had with the changing from 22 teams 42 matches a season to 20 matches and 38 matches a season hes a legend in his own right for Arsenal and the Premier league.
He's too old now at 79. Which is sad as I love David Dein. He wasn't your average chairman, this is a man who would celebrate with fans, always had time to talk to them and was a father figure to the players. He also said to Wenger when he joined, you're in charge not me. You tell me what player you want and I will buy them. Best man we have ever had at Arsenal. When Hill-Wood died, the media all credited him for Arsenal's success. That was out of order as he did nothing but harm it by sacking Dein. Dein was the brain behind our success, not Hill-Wood.
I dont understand. This conversation is a contradiction within itself. On one hand its implied that its a outrage that foreign money has come in to improve Chelsea and Man City, but then its a sense of pride that the premier league is heads and shoulders above every other league in the world (from a financial and coverage level). Which one is it?
If it wasn't for Chelsea and Man City's rise, considering their rise coincided with Arsenal's decline, Arsenal won the title in 2004, finished 2nd in 2005 but then it would have been United winning every year until 2013 when Fergie retired
@@samueldavids3704 I agree with you, I'm backing your point up, that's the point. People moan about chelsea and city yet they have some pride that the PL is financially the best in the world
And for years him and Wenger said nothing when the young black, British player they attempted to manipulate and underpay was getting vilified for being greedy (shades of Raheem Sterling when he left Liverpool. Weird how no one criticizes Harry Kane, Ronaldo or John Terry and Rooney when they all demanded tranfers to Premier League rivals). 'Cashley' as the racist British public nicknamed him quietly got on with his job winning double the trophies with Chelsea than Arsenal have in all the years since he left. A lesson in disasterclass ownership by Wenger and Dein.
@@solshields Many players get stick for many reasons and believe it or not it doesn't have to be race related. Free yourself from your own bigotry before you point the finger at others.
@@solshields It was never about the race and the name "Cashley" has no racial slur tone .Van Persie , Nasri , Fabregas ..etc all received the same treatment when they moved to direct rivals and got booed and called snakes The only one who received some racist comments was probably Adebayore
I'm sure Ashley would be much happier in hindsight that he left Arsenal seeing how they went down & Chelsea rose to being one of the top clubs in Europe. If I was Cole I would be glad just for that, leaving the extra bucks aside.
i used to work at Anfield when I was a student, working on the door to Executive Lounge basically, quality job.. Anyway, I met David Dein and he was an absolute gentleman, friendly and down to earth and after the match he asked me where the nearest bus stop was outside the stadium so that he could get back into town to get the train back to London from Lime St. Very humble and down to earth guy and that has stuck with me for ~15 years.
The European Super League is impossible without English clubs, it won’t generate anywhere near the revenue without Premier League elite and the Premier League elite is in a very very very good position as it is, they don’t need it. Long story short, ESL doesn’t happen!
Newcastle would replace Arsenal in that Top 6 anyway so it's nothing Arsenal supporters need to worry about...... just continue to represent Kent - Arsenal's birthplace - by never winning a Champ League 🤣🤣🤣
Hmm, it wouldn´t be the same without the English teams, but a strictly continental Super League would definitely rival, and at some point outgrow, the PL in terms of global appeal. But only if it has relegation and a fair distribution of tv revenue.
@@robertdegroot8302 an exclusive league of lets say maximum 10 teams that wouldn’t involve English teams would never rival the Premier League ever. First of all, only Italian and Spanish teams are interested in this idea because they’re broke, French and German teams wouldn’t join in anyway, second of all, with relegation or not, a Super League without prem clubs wouldn’t generate enough revenue!
Losing Ashley Cole, who was clearly the best left back in the world at the time, for 5k a week was a disaster. To make it worse we only got 5 million quid plus Gallas for Cole. Gallas was a real bad egg in our dressing room.
The premier league has made very average players extremely greedy as Thier talent doesn't make them Worthy of the amount of money that players are being paid. There has to be a more sensible constructive way of players wages because eventually the bubble will burst.
Finally, people accepting arsenal were in the wrong. Ashley Cole was the best LB of that generation and should have been one of the top earners! Arsenal fans calling him CASHley Cole speaks volumes of the delusion that brought arsenal near 20 years without a prem or champions league 😅
I remember arsene saying he told the board- 'you want to lose Ashley over 5k?'
Arsenal did not do enough to keep Ashley Cole. I appreciate David Dean’s admission. Wenger will not admit to something like that. Arsenal lost its identity when the team moved out of highbury.
It list a lot of money, bit it had to
David Dean and Arsene Wenger... Two of the people in football that don't get their deserved respect.
Pair of conmen especially whinger.
Fergie and Gill were greater.
@@_7.8.6 does what you wrote have any relevance to what the original commenter said?
@@TheKh65 yes
@@_7.8.6 Fergie and Gill being great has nothing to do with Dean and Wenger's legacy. There are better people than you in this world, should your life be ignored and diminished?
You can tell from Simon Jordan's face how much respect and admiration he has for David Dein.
Youre a body language expert eh
@@n1kurd the irony
At least he kept his trap shut for a change... He may respect him, but I doubt he agrees with everything he says. Does he agree with anyone?..
Was it bright red?
Not something you overly see from him that often
Ashley was underappreciated and vilified for wanting what he was worth.
.I have great respect David for acknowledging they should have done more
Whether it would've been enough to match chelsea idk. He was also young, & being a lb rather than a striker, that money was quite high at that stage
My club just hasn’t been the same since he left
I here you,, David was everything that was good about the club.
Obvious really ASHLEY Cole is the BEST British LB I've seen
I think he's the best LB . Period! Some say Carlos, but as much as i loved Carlos i compare him a it to TAA. Not the best at defense. Ashley Cole on the other hand was first and foremost a defender and damn what a good one he was.
@@jay2die4 Cole was indeed world class in his prime
Best European LB for the last 30 years imo. I can't say world because I only watch the non European sides in the World Cups.
@@johnmitchell2269 he and Roberto Carlos were amazing
he was sensational-never seen anyone like him since-what happened with his transfer is neither here nor there.i've moved on from that
The ultimate respect to refer to him as Mr Dein 👏🏾
David Dein is worthy of a statue at Arsenal as far as I'm concerned.
Forget at the Emirates, him & the other four deserve something in Trafalgar square, after the royals, it's the country's biggest export & without it there's be a massive drop in income
Arsenal were cut from a different cloth back then. Such a classy historic club.
The pain we've been through is immense mate
@@mikem8211haha. Good to see you guys doing well again. Solid season so far mate
@@thecyclingbean6806 We will see buddy I'm a pessimistic tbf we'll probably finish 5th again. I know you hate them but I dream of a day where Arsenal, United & Liverpool are on top at the same time the holy trinity of English football these oil club's make me sick 😫
Even the bungs were honest bungs
@@mikem8211 🤡 "hOlY tRiNiTy"
Blimey Talksport, when are you going to sort out the volume level on the intro/outro .. if you forget to turn down at the end it's burst eardrums everytime! Apart from that, great content as always guys, thanks.
That transfer with Gallas coming in return, getting #10 and the captain’s armband was the moment Arsenal fell behind their competitors.
Absolutely spot on comment, he sat down and refused to play or be subbed the following season as well didn't he?
And that was berrgkamps no none of it made sense lol
@@kennywilkinson913 I don’t think galas refused to play but he was never captain material and he didn’t carry himself that way on the pitch or represent the club properly. Tantrums are not befit of captains. I always muse that had Kolo Toure been given the arm band (or just kept Ashley Cole) we might’ve convinced his baby brother to come to arsenal and do what he did for us what he did for Manchester City.
@@arsmaster baby brother had a trial with us long before that and we turned him down... *face-palm (all the players we COULDA signed during that Era)
What a crazy first question
huge respect to David Dein for saying sorry to Ashley Cole. Cole have go on to win major honors and became one of the legendary left back in the world.. but the fact is he was raised with the arsenal DNA. I hope one day he can visit and at least talk to the academy players and share his experiences. dun stay at Chelsea they have no history. sold lukaku as a teenager and buy him back at 100M and then loan him out again.. I am waiting for them to buy KDB for 150M from mancity when he is in his 30s and then loan him back to Belgium.
One of Chelseas best signings signing Asheley Cole, thanks David Dein and Cole certanly didnt regret it lol.
Yep I was happy 😊
no arguments. just a great conversation. refreshing to see on talksport
Can someone please explain why they aren't live on RUclips in the morning till afternoon now?????? Must of asked about 500 times now could of replied talksport or anyone
Fair play to Dein for his explanation. Although am a born Arsenal supporter through and through, I understand why Ashley left, although I’ve booed him ever since. Ashley’s was more to do with promises that Dein made him. Ashley wanted more money but accepted Dein’s offer of 60k a week. Only for his agent to call two weeks later to say Dein had charged his mind and now offering 55k!!
Fantastic guy for an interview👍
Cole leaving really hurt at the time but I've mellowed on it now and acknowledge that he was great for Arsenal. I wish things had turned out differently
Trust me
Van Persie was the most painful, i think if we went all in at that time we could have become competitors.
These players wanted to join bigger clubs not much you could do then
@@Wonderkid44 nah, RvP only had one good season left in him and we were too reliant on him anyway. As soon as he left, other players stepped up. Cole hurt more because he was a local boy who came up through the ranks.
@@tgmartin idk agree to disagree, we needed van persie to win anything major IMO, we lost that chance the moment we sold him.
Good listen 👍
Ashley Cole and Raheem Sterling received some of the worst press off their transfers
Long live Roman Abromovich and Ashley Cole both legends in there own right.
Yes, a thief who's stolen money from the entire Russian population, definitely a legend, an infamous one
Incredible how Martin calls him “Mr Dein”, like a pupil who never lost respect for a school teacher
Exactly that! He still sees him as a father figure, even at his own age
They might not have done enough to keep but having secret meetings with Chelsea while still on contract with Arsenal was totally disrespectful. He is still Cashley for that reason.
Martin keown could put a glass eye to sleep
Legend not been the same since he left
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts 💪😎👍
Ashley Cole, Chelsea legend!
Unfortunately he's a legend for both & I forgive him
I could listen to him all day
Not quite sure of the politics behind the scenes at the club which led to his departure but always thought David Dein should still be employed in some capacity there.
Good to see Simon on mute and learning from an old school visionary. Mr Dean I stopped supporting when they appointed an amateur manager, but in truth... AFC were no longer serious after the outstanding service you produced. Great man!
An amateur manager who genuinely loves the club and is bring back the values it holds which Dein himself tried to install and keep in the club
Dein wasn't and isn't the be all end all of Arsenal. Deserves all the praise for what he done but let's not act like he was the one who made Arsenal who they are
@King Darwin Didn't you hear him? He sold his shares to Usmanov who was Kroenke's biggest rival at the time. How does that translate to him being a big part in Kroenke takeover?
Simon sound very bitter against Dein in his book, saying that Dein can even sell him a player with half his leg already broken and have Simon overpaid their wages. That's why players loved Dein, he really took care of them. There are certainly begrudging respect from Simon Jordan on Dein ability.
@King Darwin I heard that, but he did not end up selling to Kroenke but his rival. How can you then accuse him of being part of those that facilitated Kroenke takeover? If anything, he stalled the Kroenke complete takeover when he sold his shares to Usmanov.
@@scott2222 Bringibg back what values? Being happy with top 6? What about on the pitch... He's winging it as a manager and will never win anything significant.
Don’t apologise to Ashley it was the best thing he ever done
He didn’t want to go for anything other than money
Im an evertonian baaed in Liverpool and I dont follow arsenal closely but when arsenal planned their new stadium I'm sure Dein said the funding of it wouldn't effect money available for transfers. Now he's saying it was a concern.
I wonder now if efc are lying to our fans now. Our stadium is coincidentally arriving just as we are cutting our wage bill dramatically and having two summers of net gain transfers
Spent crazy money for years everton and wages mediocre players mate
@@antpatto7524 our wage bill was barely half that of city,lfc,Utd and Chelsea and 100m a year behind arsenal. It was 180m a year when Rafa come in to start cutting it. It’s been slashed again this summer.
Lfc,Utd and city are always around £320m to £350m.
Our highest transfer is about 45m.
The top five clubs have paid more than that for keepers and have made at least five signings well in excess of £50m.
It’s a total myth we’ve overspent. We’ve spent like we are the seventh biggest club in the prem. in terms of revenue we easily are. In terms of history we are number one. In terms of trophies we are fourth.
The biggest regret is Arsenal letting David Dein go
Cashley Cole And Chelsea Both Deserved Each Other..
Really look at what players get now and flopping
Why aren’t they showing this on RUclips live anymore ? Can anyone explain that to me plz
Ashley Cole leaving was a disgrace for Arsenal to let that awful deal happen
Top Arsenal man right There ❤️
His headphones are too small
Without Dein no Premier League. Gave us wenger and the modern coaches.
The Arsenal made the League and dragged you with them. Carried The League until Roman and Sheiks. Never forget. Since Herbert Chapman we lead.
Arsenal carried the league??? Ha ha ha ha...... Haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa
@@monrush You must be 15 Arsenal & United carried the league for 8-10 years you fool
@@mikem8211 you must be blind.. the gent said Arsenal carried the league NOT United & arsenal. Arsenal last won the league when the Motorola RAZR v1 was the thing to have. United have won 13 premier League titles arsenal have won 3...
Let me put everyone in this comment section to rest. Here is what happened:
(1) the premier league began in 1992.
(2) Manchester United dominated the league. It was a farmers league.
(3) along that domination you had one upset loss where Blackburn won it in 1995.
(4) Newcastle started to show talent in order to challenge United’s dominance, but that spark went out after a few seasons.
(5) Arsenal mustered up a rivalry to United in the late 90s to improve the league’s competitiveness and won the league. Everyone knew that this uprise couldn’t continue forever because United were too well established at this point.
(6) at this point, the premier league is not number one in the world. The better leagues are Serie A and la liga.
(7) In comes Roman abramovich with his wealth. United are no longer guaranteed to win every season. The wealth of Chelsea brings in all the big stars and managers from around the world. It’s no longer just about United.
(8) the league improves because of oil money (mostly) and the premier league catapults to the top.
Learn your history kids.
Arsenal’s slippery slope downwards started when he left
Man like Dein flying with Turkish airlines 👍 great guy but made mistakes that cost club long term and also didn’t check arsene when he needed most
Abramovich saved the Premier League from becoming a Man Utd monopoly, you’re welcome
I like how David days it needs to be kept fair, but the whole point of the super league was to give the big clubs their fair share, moreso to the eu clubs who are now at such a disadvantage die to the money. Bayern are the only well run club, but even they'll soon have trouble when players choose Norwich over them. I'm not saying I sorted it just to be clear, I just don't think it write gets the hate it deserves when you look at the reasoning. I off course still want merit to determine the outcome, but financial doing needs to stop to, by empires & billionaires as well as providing from the poor
This for all the deluded Arsenal fans calling the guy 'Cashly Cole' here is your former chairman admitting that they mugged him off and it was the club's fault he left
True story I met John Terry going into the Arsenal training ground and he said he was singing for Arsenal .. the week before abramovic took over Chelsea !
Made the right decision in the end to stay tbh
@@rohithraman6488 yeah hard to turn down footballs first multi billionaire buyer. Oil money talks
@@Pwnziillaaaa Well he was at Chelsea from the age of 14, and I know he was a regular in the first team for several years before he came but let's be honest, I'm sure some chelsea fans thought Abramovich coming would mean the end of Terry's time at the club and that they would buy a more accomplished centre back cause Terry hadn't really achieved much at that point
David Dein is class
That transfer kickstarted Arsenal fans' only creative football chant in their history
Ten men went to bed, went to bed with Cashley...
Who was it
Yeah ,but where is this huge investment into the Premier League going . 1.5 billion spent in the last transfer window. .... the REST of Europe £250 mill . Sporting Lisbon buy players in the 2.5 mill to 8 mill bracket....
and thump Spurs , who had 3 hundred million worth , sitting on the bench . What is going on?
I think simon is in love ❤
David Dein is an honourable man, who catapulted Arsenal to great success, but why is he suddenly and simultaneously appearing on multiple football platforms in the UK - Talksport, Sky Sports, etc? What is going on here? Is he being showcased for a knighthood?
He released his autobiography this month. There was a big release event that ex Arsenal legends attended. I guess this is a way for him to drum up support and interest in him (well overdue and deserved in my opinion).
The Premier League was always going to be good for the hardy perennials in football. It took all the money that went down the pyramid and through the league. The strong got stronger and the weak got weaker. Even when relegated you get payments so you are not competing fairly with your neighbours. The mistake the league made was not to insist all clubs have a modern stadiums with a 30,000 capacity and if you don't have it you don't get in.
Who would be paying for all these new stadiums?
@@knightsnemesis1000 The same people who are paying for the stadiums now. By borrowing against future income and - perhaps - through a central fund.
I'd love to know what Mr. Dein thinks of Man City cheating FFP and not being punished by the PL or FA. They are after all still benefiting from that cheating.
How have they cheated FFP?
Simon's Netflix of football isn't Simons idea. Ted Turner had a model of owning content and distribution back in the 90's. Its a model that's been working great for lots of people. Stop this Simon's idea crap.
Ted Turner bro you do realise in the rest of the world no one really cares about crappy American Sports that have adverts every 30 seconds
@@mikem8211
It's impressive how profoundly you missed the point.
SHWOOOOOOSH.
@@danielberry4765 My point is no one gives af about American sports & what WCW Ted did it went over your head we don't saw swoosh in the UK you absolute 100% certified tool
If in a Queens reign
Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with
Racism,Islamophobia - not Equally Sternly dealt with,Prevalent
On Queens passing - Blacks and Browns must Mourn,show Respect?😂
Gibberish
We are the fastest train on the track .🤣aint that the truth .
His groggy voice is tough to listen to.
Wow what a sorry spectacle this is . All this grovelling to this supercilious super smooth rich self publicist with the purest of pure hearts that ever existed . Yes Dein loved Arsenal so much that he sold his 15% stake in the club to the highest bidder . I guess that's what is called true love eh ? And let's not forget how arrogant and duplicitous Arsenal and their fans were under Dein and Wenger . Somehow Dein ,Wenger and Arsenal as a whole reminds me of Tony Blair and New Labour : devils masqueradeing as Angels.
Should change your name to Robin lol
What a hater. You wrote a whole paragraph about someone you despise so much 😆
@@D.Records haha 😄
@@D.Records I'm guessing Ian Banks must hate Arsenal 🤣
I'd suspect your assessment is on the money ?
Is he being honest? money talks in this world
Get the super League up can't wait off to Madrid in a Saturday evening back on a Monday morning wit a tan shut up dein and fluffy hair Jordan
Can someone tell David Dein to clear his throat?? Or cough or bloody something!? His Voice is so annoying, surely he knows his throat needs clearing.
They took the piss out of Cole cause he was home grown, they wouldn’t of treated the French lads like that….
Awful business from Arsenal.
Simon is dunoutere hella big words and dat can’t talk about running big clubs
he looks decrepit and a shadow of what he was. Dein sold Arsenal out to get rich. Unforgiveable
David Dien needs to be knighted, what a true hero to not just British Football but British Business And Britain in general. Amazing!
Chelsea. Arsenal and wengers excuse for all their failures.
it's pathetic how some AFC fans (not all of them) blame another club for their club's demise
David sold out. I dont understand why Arsenal fans love him
I've never seen Simon Jordon listen to anyone this attentively!
It makes perfect sense for the Premier League to setup their own Netflix style streaming service. Once their deals are up, they should 100% start their own service. Imagine paying £20 or something and being able to watch any Premier League game you want.. That HAS to be the future of football in this country.
The prices you have to pay for Sky, BT, Amazon just to watch some football is absolutely ridiculous. It’s no wonder everyone resorts to streaming.
Edit: When I say £20 I mean a monthly subscription fee of £20, meaning you can watch as many Premier League games you like for that amount. Not £20 per a one off game.
Won't happen because, SKY and BT won't let go or sell their rights.
@@johnmitchell2269 Sky and BT have contracts not rights... which can be run down by Premier League to choose what they wanna do next. I think 2025 is the end of the current contract with Premier league tv rights.
£20 for any game we want when majority of games are on anyhow???
@@RT-zk7yr why do you choose that figure? You are thinking of pay per view on things like boxing - think wider - it wouldn’t be pay per view it would be a subscription - a flat fee to watch as many games as you want both live or after the event - think how many people pay for Sky just for the Prem games - meanwhile the other coverage on Sky just gets worse and worse - if I was charged £30 a month for Prem footie I would drop Sky tomorrow
In australia, one of our local sports streaming services allow us to do this. it’s glorious
Ashley Cole. The greatest.
We need David Dein back in some sort of capacity him Edu and Arteta would be magnificent.
David Dein did so much for the Premier league people don't even know the input he had with the changing from 22 teams 42 matches a season to 20 matches and 38 matches a season hes a legend in his own right for Arsenal and the Premier league.
Ship sailed a long time ago i'd guess ?
He's had his time. Let the new lot figure things out
He's too old now at 79. Which is sad as I love David Dein. He wasn't your average chairman, this is a man who would celebrate with fans, always had time to talk to them and was a father figure to the players. He also said to Wenger when he joined, you're in charge not me. You tell me what player you want and I will buy them. Best man we have ever had at Arsenal. When Hill-Wood died, the media all credited him for Arsenal's success. That was out of order as he did nothing but harm it by sacking Dein. Dein was the brain behind our success, not Hill-Wood.
You can't him him & Josh & eddy, you don't want print stepping on toes
Allowing cole to leave was the beginning of our downfall
Nope started with Vieira
You think seeking one player changes a clubs entire fortunes, your kidding right?
@@kurtsudheim825 He did say the beginning. It has to start somewhere smarty pants.
I dont understand. This conversation is a contradiction within itself. On one hand its implied that its a outrage that foreign money has come in to improve Chelsea and Man City, but then its a sense of pride that the premier league is heads and shoulders above every other league in the world (from a financial and coverage level). Which one is it?
If it wasn't for Chelsea and Man City's rise, considering their rise coincided with Arsenal's decline, Arsenal won the title in 2004, finished 2nd in 2005 but then it would have been United winning every year until 2013 when Fergie retired
@@rohithraman6488 Ok. Agreed. But what has that got to do with my message?
@@samueldavids3704 I agree with you, I'm backing your point up, that's the point. People moan about chelsea and city yet they have some pride that the PL is financially the best in the world
The criticism is obviously the source of the money and not money itself.
agreed-but i still think they're moaning about the inflated transfer values for players-because of the money pumped into the game
The Gentleman of sport, need I say more
Losing Cole was a disaster, and Dein is right to be critical of his own failings.
And for years him and Wenger said nothing when the young black, British player they attempted to manipulate and underpay was getting vilified for being greedy (shades of Raheem Sterling when he left Liverpool. Weird how no one criticizes Harry Kane, Ronaldo or John Terry and Rooney when they all demanded tranfers to Premier League rivals). 'Cashley' as the racist British public nicknamed him quietly got on with his job winning double the trophies with Chelsea than Arsenal have in all the years since he left. A lesson in disasterclass ownership by Wenger and Dein.
@@dondappapumpumslappa8051 you have heard dein and wenger talk the truth since then and yet you still say the player is greedy??? Carryon then...
@@solshields Many players get stick for many reasons and believe it or not it doesn't have to be race related. Free yourself from your own bigotry before you point the finger at others.
@@solshields It was never about the race and the name "Cashley" has no racial slur tone .Van Persie , Nasri , Fabregas ..etc all received the same treatment when they moved to direct rivals and got booed and called snakes
The only one who received some racist comments was probably Adebayore
I'm sure Ashley would be much happier in hindsight that he left Arsenal seeing how they went down & Chelsea rose to being one of the top clubs in Europe. If I was Cole I would be glad just for that, leaving the extra bucks aside.
find a girl that looks at you like Simon Jordan looks at Dein
I love how Martin still calls David Dein “Mr Dein”
Simon nodding like a kid while Dein was talking😂😂😂
yes, good children listen and nod along when the adults are speaking
It’s called manners, respect and humility
Ofcourse 😂 it's just really funny to see him like that coz yall know he has a strong opinion
First vid he's ever kept quiet because he knows he's not the biggest guy in the room wth Dave there
@@Becks_2121 true, normally, but Simon doesn't have any of those
Ashley cole, was the best buy Chelsea ever made.
I’m no Chelsea fan but you’re right. It allowed them to continue to pester United and took Arsenal out of the title equation since then.
No its Drogba but he's close
What did they buy him for ?
i used to work at Anfield when I was a student, working on the door to Executive Lounge basically, quality job.. Anyway, I met David Dein and he was an absolute gentleman, friendly and down to earth and after the match he asked me where the nearest bus stop was outside the stadium so that he could get back into town to get the train back to London from Lime St. Very humble and down to earth guy and that has stuck with me for ~15 years.
Wouldn't have killed him to get a cab !!
@@andyanderson3567 no I don't think he would have died if he'd got a cab, you're right
@@paddy_wax Whoohoo ! Was that some of that incredibly funny scouse humour i've heard so much about ? No! I didn't think so either !!
The European Super League is impossible without English clubs, it won’t generate anywhere near the revenue without Premier League elite and the Premier League elite is in a very very very good position as it is, they don’t need it. Long story short, ESL doesn’t happen!
Newcastle would replace Arsenal in that Top 6 anyway so it's nothing Arsenal supporters need to worry about...... just continue to represent Kent - Arsenal's birthplace - by never winning a Champ League 🤣🤣🤣
@@jackzeldon2883 rent free
@@jackzeldon2883 I know its Friday but its no excuse for skipping therapy
Hmm, it wouldn´t be the same without the English teams, but a strictly continental Super League would definitely rival, and at some point outgrow, the PL in terms of global appeal. But only if it has relegation and a fair distribution of tv revenue.
@@robertdegroot8302 an exclusive league of lets say maximum 10 teams that wouldn’t involve English teams would never rival the Premier League ever. First of all, only Italian and Spanish teams are interested in this idea because they’re broke, French and German teams wouldn’t join in anyway, second of all, with relegation or not, a Super League without prem clubs wouldn’t generate enough revenue!
Losing Ashley Cole, who was clearly the best left back in the world at the time, for 5k a week was a disaster.
To make it worse we only got 5 million quid plus Gallas for Cole.
Gallas was a real bad egg in our dressing room.
And Arsene made him captain, which was a disaster and led to Toure leaving because he couldn't stand Gallas.
The premier league has made very average players extremely greedy as Thier talent doesn't make them Worthy of the amount of money that players are being paid. There has to be a more sensible constructive way of players wages because eventually the bubble will burst.
Simon Jordan has never seen been so quiet in his entire life. Very little challenge or push back, surprising...
Money was fine when Man U broke the world record on a CB and Madrid were the first to spend a billion quid 👌👌👌
Just realised Simon wears wig
City are kings accept it
Flck cashley
I'm not an Arsenal fan but I felt bad when he left Arsenal. I harboured a hope he'll be back...
If the Premier League directly showed their games on TV I would kick Sky in to touch tomorrow - Sky is a disgrace - leave it for womens sport
Even that girl who stole his favorite lucky painting couldn't stop Roman from running things on Top Top level for Chelsea
If Dein stayed at Arsenal there would have been much more success.
Team the outro/exit bumper is so much louder than the rest of the vid. Out here killing headphone users
we want David Dein more involved with arsenal-even just to be around the club
God save our king 🤴🏻
Might as well ask Santa to save him, they are as equally real......or not. 😉
@Steve Hendry The one true God. But why should the King even be saved? What is it based off?
@@Redman680 I don't think the god you are comparing santa to is the one being mentioned here.
@Steve Hendry Well we all need guidance at times. I just find it odd asking God to save/guide the king when the king is just a tourist attraction.
@@Redman680 Why do you always get triggered whenever you hear God mentioned? Is there more to it that we don't know?
Finally, people accepting arsenal were in the wrong. Ashley Cole was the best LB of that generation and should have been one of the top earners! Arsenal fans calling him CASHley Cole speaks volumes of the delusion that brought arsenal near 20 years without a prem or champions league 😅
Keown sounds really thick. He says such obvious things.
You cant even spell his name