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  • @TheTrinityDelusion
    @TheTrinityDelusion  6 лет назад +6

    Concerning Isaiah 43:11, did Jesus Christ's God say that? Can you honestly answer the question? Apart from the only God, Jesus Christ's God, there is no Savior.

    • @thrushman
      @thrushman 6 лет назад +1

      Awaken is Kel the son, the son to Kel the father?

    • @shanewalsh7388
      @shanewalsh7388 6 лет назад

      Thank you

    • @user-fc6tv8rv9f
      @user-fc6tv8rv9f 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion
      If Jesus was G-d the why Satan try to tempt Jesus with food and fame?(The Temptation of Jesus)

    • @mrblack6484
      @mrblack6484 6 лет назад +2

      Did the father himself come down in flesh form to die for the sins of the world?
      Isaiah 12 King James Version (KJV)
      12 And in that day thou shalt say, O Lord, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me.
      2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
      The answer is no.. because no man has seen the father, but the son of God who is our salvation therefore Jesus is Jehovah in the human form. The Son of God died for us and not the father.
      Beside the father there is the Son and beside the son there is no one else. That's the true meaning of Isaiah 43:11. Moses seen Jehovah and heard his voice also the seventy four elders saw God.

    • @josephjones4207
      @josephjones4207 6 лет назад

      Kel jesus has a God because he’s a man

  • @burongaroso2538
    @burongaroso2538 6 лет назад +7

    Amen Brother. You have Eyes to see Gods Truth in its pure and selfevident State. All Glory to Yah.

  • @MrJosephthedreamer10
    @MrJosephthedreamer10 6 лет назад +6

    Jesus Christs God told Noah to build a boat to save. Jesus Christs God told Moses to take a stick. Jesus Christs God told Jesus to lay down his life to save. Jesus Christs God raised Jesus from the dead. What a great day if you have eyes to see and ears that hear. Preach it Kel. The grace of the lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

    • @jeffweller4506
      @jeffweller4506 6 лет назад

      MrJosephthedreamer10 It seems quite convenient for these Nicene absolutist to remove from the narrative of that time in history of the pagan reformation going on via Neoplatonism, reforming the Idols into a kind of monotheism by Plotinus's Triad ...which is exactly what you discribe: a triad called "the one" by which all other idolistic entities are sourced out of ...being themselves a triad.
      So as you know in that famous diagram trinitarians like to present as a horrible explanation ..has in it four entities ..the father, son, spirit ...bur this fourth one called "god" through which the triad of father,son,spirit in equality share, and are god-power fueled by.
      So if you know ..its even more ridiculous ..six?!?!?

  • @linusarthur8589
    @linusarthur8589 5 лет назад +6

    Where did it said in the Torah he sent Jesus to save just one verse?

  • @michaelbruce9197
    @michaelbruce9197 6 лет назад +2

    Thank you for going over this. This is very important that we understand this.

  • @anettebruvold3909
    @anettebruvold3909 6 лет назад +5

    One more good video from brother Kel. Informative, well argumented and scripture based. Thanks.

  • @brianguglielmin2873
    @brianguglielmin2873 2 года назад +1

    One Savior,Lord, Master, Redeemer, King, Rock, God. Christ is our wonderful God to be worshipped and adored. Amen

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  2 года назад +4

      You would be wiser to worship his God.

    • @truthwarrior7826
      @truthwarrior7826 Год назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusionyou’re a deceiving snake rat from hell. A cultist

  • @jeffweller4506
    @jeffweller4506 6 лет назад +4

    Even if you take the scripture of Isaiah out of context, and apply it to all biblical narratives, the triadist still fall short in their disinfo because Messiah never claimed to do "the saving" but only claimed that "the saving" is done by The Father who sent Him, like Messiah thoroughly explains in the fifth chapter of John e.g. verse thirty:
    "I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I do not seek my own will, but the will of the One who sent me."
    The Father has made Messiah the King and highest priest of spiritual Isreal as it explains in Hebrews ...and as the disinfo Triad folks emphasize the scriptures that say we are "saved through Messiah" in a narrative outside of understanding what a mediator does. It is The Father who created the condition, and standards of salvation by which He chooses to gift mankind with grace. He made His Son King, The Father made His Son the highest priest of the order of Melchizedek to act as our only "Door" seated at His right hand, making mediation on behalf of His people who accept His election of The Father as both their King and priest.

  • @jenna2431
    @jenna2431 5 лет назад +1

    Glad to find your channel and website. I've blogged about this topic at Hope and Hesed. It's a crucial problem and, as with all that other Post-Constantinian tradition, it comes from Greco-Roman poly-theism, adopted by the "church fathers" (who can't be fathers centuries later!) to keep the official church status.

  • @brianguglielmin2873
    @brianguglielmin2873 2 года назад +1

    To comment telling me to worship Christs God, I certainly worship the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ. If you also worship the Father, then you must worship His Son. If you deny the Son, then you deny the Father also and His Spirit who teaches us Truth of Godhead and His Plan for us. May God truly reveal Himself to you.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  2 года назад +2

      Our Lord's God was not a Trinity. And there is only one God to refer TO.

  • @Antonio-yk8cw
    @Antonio-yk8cw 5 лет назад +2

    In Deuteronomy 4:35 and Isaih 43:11 Yahweh is speaking.

  • @tyroneharris1434
    @tyroneharris1434 3 года назад

    God would never give any person from this Earth power over him and his kingdom.

  • @IsaiahManning-jw5uu
    @IsaiahManning-jw5uu 11 месяцев назад

    God Bless Me In The Video

  • @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764
    @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764 4 года назад +2

    There are many, many scriptures that indicate that God is 3 persons in one ( one ). God has inspired the scriptures so that we may understand and learn, even the ones who are not as smart as some. God would not lead us astray. Every time the scriptures say what is says you come up with another answer. It is like you want to change what ever it says to fit what you believe. It is like the bible says what it says, then change it to something else from the original Greek or Hebrew. Some of the original Greek and Hebrew has many meaning to a word, and you try to fit a word to fit your beliefs. You might as well have another bible like the Mormons or the JW's. Every time I get happy about a verse that says what it say's. You condemned it and want to change it. I think God Would not lead us astray. In 1 cor 2:5 it says That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. So I don't think God will not leave me astray. Just read the bible, because when you start changing ( a lot ) the scripture to make it fit what you believe in, then you become a cult. All I know is I pray to the Father , through the Holy Spirit , in Jesus name. When you accepted Jesus Christ as you'r personal savior, ask him to come into your life, ask to forgive of your sins, and know that he died for you, and know he has risen.Then you become a born again Christian, and you and your Trinity Delusion will not change that. I am saved and no one is going to take that away from me. Amen.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  4 года назад +3

      "There are many, many scriptures that indicate that God is 3 persons in one ( one )."
      No there isn't.

    • @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764
      @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764 4 года назад +1

      I should have said there are many scriptures that Jesus and God as one such as I AM. Should I put the scriptures in you would change it to fit your Trinity Delusion. I will put one down though there are many. Rev 1: 17-18. Even though the bible says what it says, you will even change that just to the the Trinity Delusion. @@TheTrinityDelusion

    • @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764
      @richardandrosemaryalvarez5764 4 года назад +1

      I mean just to fit the Trinity Delusion

    • @bdaproductions9370
      @bdaproductions9370 3 года назад

      @@richardandrosemaryalvarez5764 Please pay no mind to this guy, he is way off base. You are correct & that is what I see in the Bible.

  • @dekka213l
    @dekka213l 6 лет назад

    Informative and pulls no punches!

  • @greenman5255
    @greenman5255 6 лет назад +2

    Yeah, a "Quadrupity" is really what they've been worshipping. Quadrupatarians are a twisted breed.

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад +1

    Please refute the Athanasian Creed in a video

  • @jefftaylor19
    @jefftaylor19 6 лет назад +3

    Yes, God alone is at the helm. In the same way, Jesus is only the "master"of his followers. It seems wrong to translate the Greek word rabbi as "Lord". It seams blasphemous to view Jesus as Lord. This video clearly shows that non other than God Almighty directs the saving. Who he uses as a tool is His prerogative. God is the Lord. God in fact is doing everything. We humans, the Angels, demons, even Satan are mere pawns or tools used by God in this in this grand, living illustration. God will illustrate the truth. We creations, even Jesus and the Holy Spirit, serve the Creator's purpose. Our appearant autonomy is an illusion as God already knows what our choices will be. He has snapped all of these pieces of this puzzle into a perfect design. Just submit, He is in full control. This is the definition of Monotheism. Any understanding other than this would be an act of Idolatry. Peace.
    19 is a Miracle

    • @readymadeit5746
      @readymadeit5746 5 лет назад

      deep!!!!!! tell us more please. seriously!

  • @peterstewart3093
    @peterstewart3093 6 лет назад

    the Bible is about man our God , what God did for the son of man, what man did for God , Jesus did the most of all,

  • @fordtrucks7136
    @fordtrucks7136 3 года назад

    Jesus if he's savior
    then why did jehovah
    say he was the only savior ?

  • @Justadudeman22
    @Justadudeman22 3 года назад

    Yes so this scripture is speaking of a physical savior of the country of israel. Not of eternal salvation . That is not possible without Yeshua.

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад +1

    Are you on Facebook

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад

    The reason why God is described as a single i is because there is one being

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад +1

    If Jesus is not God who is he

    • @yaggyone2122
      @yaggyone2122 5 лет назад

      1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
      The MAN Christ Jesus!
      Eternal God can't die!
      Jesus the son of man ( a MAN, the second Adam) did die! Hello!
      the first born (born again or first fruits)of all creation. ----------------- first of all the kingdom to come.
      not born before all creation--------------eternally begotten (false impossible notion)

    • @josephjones4207
      @josephjones4207 5 лет назад +1

      Yaggy One He’s both god and man

    • @yaggyone2122
      @yaggyone2122 5 лет назад

      @@josephjones4207 I realize that is your opinion (and most christians), but that is not in the Bible (KJV). In fact it says in several places God is not a man! Nor the son of man, which is one of Jesus's favorite things to call himself - son of man.
      Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
      But I realize you will not see this because you believe God can die.
      Oh thats right he's 100 % man and 100% God, a 200% imposter and an impossibility!
      You have to open your mind up from the brain washing.
      Please reread my original statement and actually think about it when you read your bible.
      1 + 1 + 1 does not equal 1 It equals 3 and God is only one He not three He's
      Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
      Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
      1Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
      Notice the - AND one Lord Jesus (son of man)

    • @janflorovic5880
      @janflorovic5880 5 лет назад

      Jehovah is the god of Abraham , of Isaac and of Jacob.

    • @ebrimajawneh6918
      @ebrimajawneh6918 5 лет назад

      Jesus is only a prophet

  • @kenroldaniel7044
    @kenroldaniel7044 3 года назад

    YOU ARE TAKING TOO LONG TO SAY WHO IS THE 'ME'

  • @gustavmahler1466
    @gustavmahler1466 4 года назад

    Well it says an angel saved them Isaiah 63:9 KJV so not the only saviour

  • @interstategar
    @interstategar 3 года назад

    The Messiah is supposed to come from the root of King David. The father of Jesus wasn't his father of birth.. So why do the Christian Bibles go through the lineage of Joseph to prove the link between Jesus and King David? Also Jesus didn't live in the time when Jews were exalted, so how could Jesus be the Messiah the Prophets were talking about?

    • @driller7714
      @driller7714 3 года назад

      Lineage of David. Here is a thought. David was called son by God, Solomon was called the son of God. Perhaps the lineage is in that line. Joseph being of the house of David and being the recognized father of Jesus also puts Jesus in the house of David. Jesus would be from the house of David spiritually and literally. Mind you this is just a thought and not one I’ve examined.

    • @driller7714
      @driller7714 3 года назад

      The line of Joseph has relevance or else it would not have been put in the scripture.

    • @Zipfreer
      @Zipfreer 2 года назад

      2 Samuel 7 tells us how come from the root of King David he is the father of the Messiah and Yah adopted him!

  • @watchtoweralert1
    @watchtoweralert1 6 лет назад

    besides=apart from my authorisation

  • @scripturaltruth7636
    @scripturaltruth7636 5 лет назад

    Yahusha was YHVH come in the flesh
    This is describing the fake Jesus created by Paul and Peter in Rome. This is people carry the cross in protestant and catholic churches. This is not YHVH of Hosts. The real Yahusha was YHVH of Hosts and is also the Ruach.
    Isa 46:5 “To whom do you liken Me, and compare Me and make Me similar, that we should be alike?
    Isa 46:6 “They pour gold out of the bag, and weigh silver on the scale. They hire a goldsmith, and he makes it a mighty one. They fall down, they also bow themselves.
    Isa 46:7 “They bear it on the shoulder, they carry it and set it in its place, and it stands - from its place it does not move. Though one cries out to it, it does not answer, nor save him from his distress.
    Isa 46:8 “Remember this, and show yourselves men; turn it back, you transgressors.
    Isa 46:9 “Remember the former events of old, for I am Ěl, and there is no one else - Elohim, and there is no one like Me
    Unless you understand what happened you will never get it. Three betrayed Yahusha NOT ONE
    Zechariah 11: 7-14
    So I pastured the FLOCK DOOMED TO SLAUGHTER, hence the afflicted of the flock. And I took for myself two staffs: the one I called FAVOR (GRACE) and the other I called UNION; so I pastured the flock. Then I ANNIHILATED THE THREE SHEPHERDS IN ONE MONTH, for my soul was impatient with them, and their soul also was weary of me. Then I said, “I will not pasture you. What is to die, let it die, and what is to be annihilated, let it be annihilated; and let those who are left eat one another’s flesh.” I took my staff Favor and cut it in pieces, to break my covenant which I had made with all the peoples. SO IT WAS BROKEN ON THAT DAY, and thus the afflicted of the flock who were watching me realized that it was the word of YHVH. I said to them, “If it is good in your sight, give me my wages; but if not, never mind!” So they weighed out thirty shekels of silver as my wages. Then YHVH said to me, “THROW IT TO THE POTTER, THAT MAGNIFICENT PRICE AT WHICH I WAS VALUED BY THEM.” So I took the THIRTY SHEKELS OF SILVER AND THREW THEM TO THE POTTER IN THE HOUSE OF YHVH. Then I cut in pieces my second staff Union, to break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
    You also have to remember EVERYTHING Yahusha said was in parables not for everyone to understand
    Eze 20:48 “And all flesh shall see that I, יהוה, have kindled it, it is not quenched.” ’ ”
    Eze 20:49 And I said, “Ah, Master יהוה! They are saying of me, ‘Is he not speaking parables?’ ”
    Yahusha came to undo the divorce He had given the House of Israel He did not need to die to forgive sins. There was NO HUMAN SACRIFICE
    MATTHEW 15: 24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
    Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce...
    YHVH was carrying out His wrath. Peter was the sure peg in Isaiah
    Isaiah 22: 20
    And it shall be in that day, that I shall call My servant Elyaqim son of Ḥilqiyahu. 21 And I shall put your robe on him, and strengthen him with your girdle, and give your authority into his hand. And HE SHALL BE A FATHER to the inhabitants of Yerushalayim and to the house of Yehuḏah. 22 And I shall place the key of the house of Dawiḏ on his shoulder. And he shall open, and no one shuts; and shall shut, and no one opens.
    23 AND I SHALL FASTEN HIM LIKE A PEG IN A STEADFAST PLACE,
    and he shall become a throne of esteem to his father’s house. 24 And they shall hang on him all the weight of his father’s house, the offspring and the offshoots, all vessels of small quantity, from the cups to all the jars.
    Isaiah 22: 21 And I shall put your robe on him, and strengthen him with your girdle, and give your authority into his hand.
    COMPARE
    John 21:18 Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you where you do
    not want to go.”
    Isaiah 22: 17 See, יהוה is hurling you away, O man, and is firmly grasping you, 18 rolling you up tightly like a ball, into a wide land. There you are to die, and there your esteemed chariots are to be the shame of your master’s house. 19 And I shall drive you from your office, and you shall be ousted from your position.
    COMPARE
    John 21:18-19 “Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were younger you girded yourself and walked where you wished, but when you are old you shall stretch out your hands, and another shall gird you and bring you where you do not wish.”
    Now this He said, signifying by what death he would esteem Elohim. And having said this, He said to him, “Follow Me.”
    To know the SONG OF MOSES you have to see this betrayal because there are two rocks Rock #1 is Peter and Rock #2 is the REAL ROCK YAHUSHA (YAHUSHA MEANS YAHUAH SAVES AND IS YAHUAH)
    Deuteronomy 32: 4 “The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. An ELOHIM of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. 5 They have dealt corruptly with him; they are no longer his children because they are blemished; they are
    a crooked and twisted generation.
    Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not as our Rock; our enemies are by themselves.
    Matthew 13: 20 As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, 21 yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word,
    immediately he falls away.
    THE ROCK PAUL AND PETER BUILT IS THE WRONG ROCK.

    • @scripturaltruth7636
      @scripturaltruth7636 5 лет назад

      Isa 45:15 👉Truly You are Ěl, who hide Yourself, O Elohim of Yisra’ěl, Saviour! 👈

    • @johnbee1069
      @johnbee1069 5 лет назад

      Since YHWH was still in heaven while Jesus was on earth, I'm thinking the Bible is rather clear.
      We worship Jesus' God and our God - just as He himself said it

    • @scripturaltruth7636
      @scripturaltruth7636 5 лет назад

      @@johnbee1069 Hosea 5:13-15
      13 When Ephraim saw his sickness,
      and Judah his wound,
      then Ephraim went to Assyria,
      and sent to the great king.
      But he is not able to cure you
      or heal your wound.
      14 For I will be like a lion to Ephraim,
      and like a young lion to the house of Judah.
      👉I, even I, WILL TEAR AND GO AWAY 👈;
      I will carry off, and no one shall rescue.
      15👉 I will return again to my place,
      until they acknowledge their guilt and seek my face,
      and in their distress earnestly seek me.👈
      6 “Come, let us return to the Lord;
      for he has torn us, that he may heal us;
      he has struck us down, and he will bind us up.
      2 👉After TWO DAYS he will REVIVE US ;
      on the THIRD DAY HE WILL RAISE US UP,👈
      that we may live before him.
      Isa 46:5 “To whom do you liken Me, and compare Me and make Me similar, that we should be alike?
      Isa 46:6 “They pour gold out of the bag, and weigh silver on the scale. They hire a goldsmith, and he makes it a mighty one. They fall down, they also bow themselves.
      Isa 46:7 “They bear it on the shoulder, they carry it and set it in its place, and it stands - from its place it does not move. Though one cries out to it, it does not answer, nor save him from his distress.
      Isa 46:8 “Remember this, and show yourselves men; turn it back, you transgressors.
      Isa 46:9 “Remember the former events of old, 👉for I am Ěl, and there is no one else👈
      - Elohim, and there is no one like Me,
      Isa 45:5 I am יהוה, and there is none else - there is no Elohim besides Me. I gird you, though you have not known Me,
      Isa 45:6 so that they know from the rising of the sun to its setting that there is none but Me. I am יהוה, and there is none else,
      Isa 45:7 forming light and creating darkness, making peace and creating evil. I, יהוה, do all these.’
      Isa 45:8 “Rain down, O heavens, from above, and let clouds pour down righteousness. Let the earth open, let them bring forth deliverance, and let righteousness spring up together. I, יהוה, have created it.
      Isa 45:9 “Woe to him who strives with his Maker! (a potsherd with the potsherds of the earth). Does clay say to him who forms it, ‘What are you making?’ Or your handiwork say, ‘He has no hands’?
      Isa 45:10 “Woe to him who says to his father, ‘What are you bringing forth?’ Or to the woman, ‘What are you labouring over?’ ”
      Isa 45:11 Thus said יהוה, the Set-apart One of Yisra’ěl, and his Maker, “Do you ask Me about My sons what is to come? And about the work of My hands do you command Me?
      Isa 45:12 “I have made the earth, and created man on it. I, My hands have stretched out the heavens, and all their host I have commanded.
      Isa 45:13 “I have stirred him up in righteousness, and all his ways I make straight. He builds My city and lets My exiles go, not for price nor reward,” declares יהוה of hosts.
      The Lord, the Only Savior
      Isa 45:14 Thus said יהוה, “The labour of Mitsrayim and merchandise of Kush and of the Seḇaites, men of size, come over to you and they are yours. They walk behind you, they come over in chains, and they bow down to you. They make supplication to you, saying, ‘Indeed, Ěl is in you, and there is none else, no mighty one.’ ”
      Isa 45:15 👉Truly You are Ěl, who hide Yourself, O Elohim of Yisra’ěl, Saviour! 👈😱
      Isa 45:16 They shall be put to shame, and even be humiliated, all of them - the makers of idols shall go away together in humiliation.
      Isa 45:17 Yisra’ěl shall be saved by יהוה with an everlasting deliverance. You are not to be ashamed nor hurt, forever and ever.
      Isa 45:18 For thus said יהוה, Creator of the heavens, He is Elohim, Former of earth and its Maker, He established it, He did not create it to be empty, He formed it to be inhabited: “I am יהוה, and there is none else.
      Isa 45:19 “I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth. I have not said to the seed of Ya‛aqoḇ, ‘Seek Me in vain.’ I am יהוה, speaking righteousness, declaring matters that are straight.
      Isa 45:20 “Gather yourselves and come; draw near together, you who have escaped from the nations. No knowledge have they who are lifting up the wood of their carved image, and pray to a mighty one that does not save.
      Isa 45:21 “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from that time? Is it not I, יהוה? And there is no mighty one besides Me, a righteous Ěl and a Saviour, there is none besides Me.
      Isa 45:22 “Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am Ěl, and there is none else.
      Isa 45:23 “I have sworn by Myself, a word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, so that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue swear.
      Isa 45:24 “One shall say, ‘Only in יהוה do I have righteousness and strength’ - he comes to Him. And all those displeased with Him shall be put to shame.
      Isa 45:25 “In יהוה all the seed of Yisra’ěl shall be declared right and boast.”
      Joe 2:27 “And you shall know that I am in the midst of Yisra’ěl,a and that I am יהוה your Elohim and there is no one else. And My people shall never be put to shame.
      Hos 13:4 “But I am יהוה your Elohim 👉since the land of Mitsrayim👈, and an Elohim besides Me you shall not know, for there is no Saviour besides Me. (YAHUSHA WAS YHVH)
      Zec 14:9 And יהוה shall be Sovereign over all the earth.c In that day there shall be 👉one יהוה, 👈and 👉His Name one. 👈
      Deu 4:30 “In your distress, when all these words shall come upon you in the 👉 LATTER DAYS, 👈 then you shall return to יהוה your Elohim and shall obey His voice.
      Deu 4:31 “For יהוה your Elohim is a compassionate Ěl, He does not forsake you, nor destroy you, nor forget the covenant of your fathers which He swore to them.
      The Lord Alone Is God
      Deu 4:32 “For ask now of the days that are past, which were before you, since the day that Elohim created man on the earth, and ask from one end of the heavens to the other end of the heavens, whether there has been a Word as great as this, or has been heard like it.
      Deu 4:33 “Has a people heard the voice of Elohim speaking out of the midst of the fire, as you have heard, and live?
      Deu 4:34 “Or has Elohim tried to go and take for Himself a nation from the midst of a nation by trials, and by signs, and by wonders, and by battle, and by a strong hand and an outstretched arm, and by great fearsome deeds, according to all that יהוה your Elohim did for you in Mitsrayim before your eyes?
      Deu 4:35 “You have been shown it, to know that יהוה Himself is Elohim;👉 THERE IS NO ONE BESIDES HIM. 👈
      Deu 4:36 “From the heavens He let you hear His voice, to instruct you, and on earth He showed you His great fire, and you heard His words out of the midst of the fire.
      Deu 4:37 “And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their seed after them, and brought you out of Mitsrayim with His Presence, with His great power,
      Deu 4:38 to drive out from before you nations greater and stronger than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is today.
      Deu 4:39 “And you shall know today, and shall recall to your heart that יהוה Himself is Elohim in the heavens above and on the earth beneath; 👉 THERE IS NONE ELSE. 👈
      Deu 4:40 “And you shall guard His laws and His commands which I command you today, so that it is well with you and with your children after you, and so that you prolong your days on the soil which יהוה your Elohim is giving you for all time.”
      Deu 32:39 See now that I, I am He, And 👉THERE IS NO ELOHIM BESIDES ME.👈 I put to death and I make alive. I have wounded, and I heal. And from My hand no one delivers!
      Deu 32:40 For I lift My hand to the heavens, And shall say: As I live forever,
      Deu 32:41 If I have sharpened My flashing sword, And My hand takes hold on judgment, I shall return vengeance to My enemies, And repay those who hate Me.
      Deu 32:42 I make My arrows drunk with blood, And My sword devours flesh, With the blood of the slain and the captives, From the long-haired enemy chiefs.’
      Deu 32:43 “O nations, acclaim His people! For He avenges the blood of His servants, And returns vengeance to His adversaries, And shall pardon His land, His people.”
      Deu 32:44 Then Mosheh came, with Hoshěa son of Nun, and spoke all the words of this song in the hearing of the people.
      Deu 32:45 And when Mosheh ended speaking all these words to all Yisra’ěl,
      Deu 32:46 he said to them, “Set your heart on all the words with which I warn you today, so that you command your children to guard to do all the Words of this Torah.
      Deu 32:47 “For it is not a worthless Word for you, because it is your life, and by this Word you prolong your days on the soil which you pass over the Yarděn to possess.”

    • @scripturaltruth7636
      @scripturaltruth7636 5 лет назад

      There has never been but ONE YHVH
      Yahuah is the name of the Father in Hebrew
      Yahusha which was the son is the joining of two words Yasha + Yahuah and means Yahuah Saves

    • @johnbee1069
      @johnbee1069 5 лет назад

      @@scripturaltruth7636
      The Father's name according to the Bible is YHWH - This is what the Bible says, and that is what we should believe.
      Jesus had a God whom He worshiped on earth and His name was YHWH.
      That is who Jesus' identified as His God and our God. And that is the truth.

  • @DrummerDude5645
    @DrummerDude5645 6 лет назад

    Hey brother Kel. Can you help me understand a verse that im struggling to explain to Trinitarians. Ive been told Jesus knows everything because he's God and a verse used to support this claim is John 21:17. I dont believe Jesus knows everything because he confessed ignorance of when he's coming back and God had to reveal the events of revelation to Jesus who then gave it to John by a messanger/angel. What was peter saying when he told Jesus "you know all things"?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 лет назад

      Well then your friend is one of those people who thinks he can make Scripture contradict Scripture since Jesus clearly said he does not know the day and hour.
      But the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you ALL THINGS, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. John 14:26
      But you have an anointing of the Holy One, and you know ALL THINGS.... the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you ALL THINGS
      1 John 2:20,27

    • @DrummerDude5645
      @DrummerDude5645 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion wow, thank you. I reread those chapters you just quoted and it makes complete sense now. Just reading john 14 from a Trinitarian position leads to so much confusion for me. Have you ever thought about doing a question and answer series with your subscribers? I think many new unitarian christians would benefit from your knowledge of scripture.

    • @josephjones4207
      @josephjones4207 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion jesus as God knows the day but Jesus as a man doesn’t know

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 лет назад +1

      To say Jesus knows and does not know at the same time is like suggesting a light is on and off at the same time.

    • @josephjones4207
      @josephjones4207 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion no it’s an incomprehensible mystery

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks
    Ps can I give you my proofs for the trinity

  • @cephasmwila7537
    @cephasmwila7537 5 лет назад

    Who is my Savior ? The father or Jesus?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад +1

      Jesus is God our Saviors salvation, the Savior God the Father raised up.

    • @ebrimajawneh6918
      @ebrimajawneh6918 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion
      Jesus is not God, he is only a prophet of God like all the other prophets

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад +2

      @@ebrimajawneh6918 No, he was more than a prophet. He was the predestined Christ, the son of God.

    • @ebrimajawneh6918
      @ebrimajawneh6918 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion
      No, he is not son of God. God don't have son

    • @ebrimajawneh6918
      @ebrimajawneh6918 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion
      How can God have a son?

  • @brandonkuhn6985
    @brandonkuhn6985 6 лет назад

    What dose worshipping Jesus mean to you?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 лет назад +1

      The same thing it meant to Israel worshiping King David who executed God's authority since he sat on the throne of God ruling over the Kingdom of God. It means we subject ourselves to his authority which is the authority of his God.

    • @brandonkuhn6985
      @brandonkuhn6985 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion why do you think angels and animals worship Jesus?

    • @brandonkuhn6985
      @brandonkuhn6985 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion so to you worship means obeisance and not actual worship.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  6 лет назад +2

      Well your Bible tells you. He sits on the throne of his God and Father and has been given all authority in heaven and earth. The Greek word means the same thing whether used of God or used of men. We aren't talking about your own personal definition of "worship" here but the Biblical language. Why did all Israel worship Yahweh and King David as one and the same act?

    • @brandonkuhn6985
      @brandonkuhn6985 6 лет назад

      The Trinity Delusion Why is hard for you to believe that God would come down as a man to save the world?
      It doesn't seem unlikely that God could do this since he appeared to Abraham in the form of a man.

  • @josephjones4207
    @josephjones4207 6 лет назад +1

    THE BIBLICAL TESTIMONY TO THE TRIUNE GOD
    1. There is one God (Deut 6:4,32:39, 2 SAM 7:22, Isa 43:10-11,44:8, mark 12:29, I cor 8:6, James 2;19)
    2. The Father is God (John 6:27., 2 Tim 1:2)
    3. The Son is God (John 1, 5:23, Heb 1:2-8)
    4. The Holy Ghost is God (Acts 5:3-4)
    5. The Father is not the Son (Matt 16:16-17, Luke 22:42,23:46, John 3:16-17, 5:19-22, 6:37-38, 8:16-18, 11:41,12:44, 49-50, 14:23,28 15:1, 10, 15-16, 16:16-17,27-28, 32, 17:1-5, 20:17,21, I John 1:3, 2:24, 4:14)
    6. The Father is not the Holy Ghost (John 14:16)
    7. The Father sent the Son (John 3:16-17,I John 4:9, 14)
    8. The Father begets the Son (jn 1:14,3:16)
    9. The Father tells the angels to worship his Son (Heb 1:6)
    10. We have an advocate with the Father; his Son Jesus Christ (i Tim 2:5, I John 2:1)
    11. We have fellowship with the Father and the Son (I John 1:3) (2 Persons)
    12. The Father is never seen (jn 6:46); but the Son declares him (jn 1:18)
    13. The Father bears witness to his Son’s work (Jn 5:30-37, 8:16-18)
    14. The Father never leaves the Son alone (jn 16:32)
    15. The Father and Son each have a will (mt 26:39,42 Luke 22:42)
    16. The Son is not the Holy Ghost (Jn 14:26, 16:14)
    17 The Son loves his Father (Jn 14:31)
    18. The Father and the Son come to believers (Jn 14:23)
    19. The Father created the world through his Son (jn 1:3, Col 1:16-17, Heb 1:2)
    20. The Father draws men to his Son (Jn 6:37, 44)
    21. The Son offered himself to the Father through the Spirt (Heb 9:14)
    22. The Son is co eternal with his Father (Jn 17:5, Heb 1:2-3)
    23. The Son is co equal with the Father (Jn 5:23,Phil 2:5-8)
    24. The Son prays to the Father (Jn 17:1-26)
    25. The Son does his Father’s will: not his own (jn 6:38)
    God (1 tim. 3:16) the Son (I John 3:8, 4:9) was manifested in flesh
    26. There are Two witnesses [the Father and the Son] which bear witness to the Son (Jn 5:31-36,8:18)
    27. The Son is the chief revelator of the Father’s being (Heb 1:3 connected to Jn 14:9)
    28. We don’t believe in Jesus only; but the Father who sent him (jn 12:44-45) (clearly proves that there are two distinct Persons in the single divine being)
    29. Jesus does not speak of himself; but what the Father who sent him tells him (jn 12;49-50, 15:15) (there is one who tells and one who’s being told)
    30. The Son commits his soul into the Father’s hands (Luke 23;46)
    31. The Holy Ghost is not the Father (Jn 14:16)
    32. The Holy Ghost is not the Son (Jn 16:7)
    33. The Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father (Jn 14:26, 15:26) and the Son (Jn 16:7)
    34. The Holy Ghost hears things from the Father and the Son (Jn 16:13-15)
    35. The Holy Ghost is co eternal with the Father and the Son (Gen 1:2, Heb 9:14)
    36. The Holy Ghost takes of Jesus’s teachings; reveals them to us and then glorifies Jesus (jn 16:14)
    37. We have access to the Father by the Spirt through Christ (eph 2:18)
    His personhood:
    1. Thx Holy Ghost sanctifies us (2 Thes 2:13)
    2 The Holy Ghost inspired people to write the Bible (ii pet 1:21)
    3. The Holy Ghost gives joy (i thes 1:6)
    4. The Holy Ghost has a will (I Cor 12:11)
    5. The Holy Ghost speaks (Acts 8:29, 11:12, 13:2, i tim 4:1)
    6. The Holy Ghost loves (rom 15:30)

    ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE
    A. Salvation; the Father declaring, the Son purchasing, and the Spirit applying (Ephesians 1:3-13).
    B. Jesus resurrected by all three persons
    The Father (acts 2;24,32; 3:15, 26; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30, 33, 34, 37) (Rom. 4:24; 6:4 [through the glory of the Father]); 10:9; 1 Cor. 6:14; Gal. 1:1; Col. 2:12).
    The Son (John 10:17-18)
    The Spirt (rom 8:11)
    [2]; Luke 4:18;; Ps 110:1; Matt 3:16,17; 28:19; ; 2 Cor 13:14 Gal 4:6; Eph 2:18; Luke 3:22, 9:35 22:42, , John 1:1-3, 14.18, 3:16, 5:30-32, 36-37, 6:37, 8:16-18, 54, 10:15, 10:18, 11:41,14:16, 23-24,26 16:13, , 20:17, 21 , i john 1:3, 2:24, 4:14 5:7; Heb 1:2-3; Gen 1:26-27, 3:22, ps 45:6 , Heb 1:6, 9:14
    Conclusion:
    Therefore, the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirt are three distinct persons who are the one God (I John 5:7)

  • @AdvancedMarketingGro
    @AdvancedMarketingGro 5 лет назад +1

    *THE TRINITY IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT OF SCRIPTURE*
    > The following verse from 1 John 5:7 makes it very clear that the doctrine of the Trinity is without a doubt a fact that cannot be denied.
    "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
    The verse states the following...
    1. John's first statement tells us "THERE ARE THREE."
    That statement is as clear as it can be.
    2. In heaven there are three that bear witness; that is to say together they state the truth at all times, they represent the truth at all times, they are the truth at all times. They are faithful witnesses to the truth.
    3. The three are the Father, the Word (Jesus Christ - John 1:14) and the Holy Spirit.
    4. The three are described by John as both "THREE" and also at he same time as "ONE;" "the three are one," John makes it clear that God is BOTH three and one.
    5. Three persons are clearly refereed to; Father, Word, Holy Spirit; three distinct entities.
    6. For each person of the Trinity the word "THE" is employed; "THE" Father, "THE Word," "THE" Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost if you prefer) which is an indication of the uniqueness of each; there is no other Father, no other Word, no other Holy Spirit.
    7. The three are ONE, the ONE is three who is God / Elohim / Almighty God / The Godhead / YHWH. GOD is Father, Son, Holy Spirit; "Hear Oh Israel; the LORD your God is ONE." - Deuteronomy 6:4
    >> To deny the Holy Trinity is to deny one of the basic truths concerning the Holy God. There is no other God but YHWH;
    In this verse it is declared that there is NO other God but God, and there is NO other Savior but God...
    "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." - Isaiah 45:21-22

    • @johnbee1069
      @johnbee1069 5 лет назад +2

      Every time a trinitarian uses the words "clearly" or "very clear", we can be sure that what follow is not the truth of God.
      It's almost as though trinitarians use this to try and detract from the horrible logic that follows.
      *RE:* John's first statement tells us "THERE ARE THREE."
      *A.* As previously mentioned, the admission of three of anything does not constitute the trinity.
      *RE:* To deny the Holy Trinity is to deny one of the basic truths concerning the Holy God. There is no other God but YHWH;
      *A.* Nice try. Except that this is nowhere taught in scripture, and therefore irrelevant.
      If God wanted us to either believe Jesus is equal-to or God himself, then He would have surely covered this in the Bible.
      However, and much the opposite, there are no such statements or declarations made anywhere in the Bible.
      Case and point, the trinity is a lie.
      And we need to get as far away that nonsense as possible.

    • @4321grp
      @4321grp 5 лет назад +2

      1John 5:7 is omitted from most modern versions because it isn't in the older manuscripts, it's been proven to be an insertion that doesn't belong in the Bible. See Rev.22:18

    • @AdvancedMarketingGro
      @AdvancedMarketingGro 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@4321grp , obviously you know nothing of the history of those so called "older manuscripts." They survived because they were largely UNUSED, not worn out because they were corrupted manuscripts rejected by scholars and set aside. Accurate manuscripts were heavily used and therefore worn out and lost. A manuscript being older DOES NOT necessarily mean it is accurate or accurately preserved. It is foolish to assign accuracy to older manuscripts simply because they are older. Did you not know this? Do you also not know this either?...
      > Proverbs 18:13 - "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him."
      > Proverbs 10:28 - The wise man is glad to be instructed, but a self-sufficient fool falls flat on his face.
      Should this be taken out of your "modern versions" also?...........
      >>> THE TRINITY, as clear as it can be stated;
      "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" - Matthew 28:19
      THE TRINITY; "Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" ...all GOD, all three, ALL ONE.
      AND...
      >>> A Few Overlooked Scriptures Revealing the Eternal Deity of Jesus Christ.
      False teachers and deceived people claim that "Jesus was not God." The Bible says otherwise in many clear and irrefutable scriptures, some of which often go overlooked. Here is a list of scriptures declaring Jesus Christ as GOD.
      >> 1. According to the Zechariah; Jesus was God even when on the cross...
      "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." - Zechariah 12:10
      Note: God speaking declares that is ME on the cross; "and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced" Also, God says ME and then HIM, which is an indication of the Trinity.
      >> 2. ONLY God is to be worshiped; if you are worshiping any other being other than God you are committing idolatry and blaspheming God. God calls the Son "GOD" and commands the angels to worship Him...
      "Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
      And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." - Hebrews 1:4-8
      >> 3. Mary called her Savior GOD; who was the Savior?...Jesus is our Savior, who Mary calls GOD. Mary declared Jesus who is the Savior to be God; she tied GOD (or divinity) and SAVIOR (Jesus) together as one and the same...
      "And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour." - Luke 1:47 ..."GOD MY SAVIOR."
      >> 4. Thomas, who at first doubted that Jesus was resurrected from the dead after being crucified, declares Jesus to be both his LORD and GOD...
      "And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” - John 20:28
      >> 5. It was GOD who purchased us with His own blood...
      "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which He hath purchased with His own blood." - Acts 20:28
      Who's blood purchased us? ...GOD'S Blood. Who shed His blood for us on the cross? ...Jesus, who was shedding GOD'S Blood because that was GOD our Savior, Jesus.
      >> 6. God is both our Savior and a just God...
      "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." - Isaiah 45:21-22
      Note: "no God else beside me; a just God AND a Saviour" ...Isaiah writes that who God is, He is also our Savior; who is our Saviour?... Jesus, who is both Saviour and GOD; "a just God AND a Saviour."
      >> 7. The Apostle Peter calls Jesus both "our God and our Savior"...once again scripture combines Savior with GOD together; they are one and the same...
      "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:" - 2 Peter 1:1
      >> 8. The Apostle Paul calls Jesus both "our GOD and our Savior"...
      "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." - Titus 2:13-14
      Note: Some false teachers claim that Paul was speaking of two person; first GOD and then second of Jesus who "was only the Son of God, not God Himself." Close examination of Titus 2:13-14 reveals that GOD Paul was speaking of is GOD who is soon to return to earth in the glorious appearing; that is clearly a reference to Jesus Christ who is God who Paul calls "the great God."
      >> 9. The Apostle John calls Jesus GOD...
      "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1
      Later in John 1:14, John reveals that the Word who was GOD was made flesh... "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." At no time did John indicate that by becoming flesh that the Word who was God ceased to be God while in the flesh.
      >> 10. 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)...
      "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
      Who was manifest in the flesh?... Jesus Christ (John 1:14). Who does 1 Timothy 3:16 say was manifest in the flesh?...GOD.
      "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." - John 1:14
      Who was received up into glory?...Jesus Christ.
      And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." Acts 1:9-11
      Who was GOD that was "manifest in the flesh"...Jesus Christ; ergo Jesus Christ is GOD.
      >> 11. As discussed in point number two above concerning the worship of God; Jesus accepted worship and never commanded anyone to NOT worship Him. ONLY GOD is to be worshiped...
      If Jesus was offered and accepted worship, then by doing so He was confirming His divinity. This is important because there are those who deny the deity of Christ, relegating Him instead to a lesser position than God. Yes, Jesus accepted worship. As the second Person of the Trinity, He was worshiped in Scripture...
      "And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh." - Matthew 2:11
      "Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God." - Matthew 14:33
      "And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him." - Matthew 28:8-9
      Note; ONLY God is to be worshiped.
      >>> JESUS IS GOD.

    • @janflorovic5880
      @janflorovic5880 5 лет назад

      Ad Mark
      When Aughustine tried to prove the trinity he was looking at 1 John 5. This is how we know it wasn’t there originally. He couldn’t find any sort of thing. He tried to somehow make the Spirit , Water and Blood be a form of proof of trinity. If that added text was there originally I’m pretty sure Augustine would have just quoted it.

    • @gustavmahler1466
      @gustavmahler1466 4 года назад +1

      Yes but the Word became the Son there was no Son before the incarnation

  • @shit2fly
    @shit2fly 6 лет назад +2

    "There are no saviours besides us." Trinitas 3:16
    And that's a cold hard fact. Plural conjugations and pronouns. Monotheism is so boring, 3 dimensions are so much better.

    • @truthhitman7473
      @truthhitman7473 6 лет назад +1

      What about the real identity of the children of Israel ? They were not Europeans. ISAIAH 29:22

    • @johnchauke7492
      @johnchauke7492 3 года назад

      Same thing would be said about Moses that he is part of trinity and jesus came after him so Jesus is the fourth one and an additional. Man u Trinitarians are funny that's why no man will go to heaven based on this stupid doctrine but believing Jesus is Lord and savior the Messiah

    • @bdaproductions9370
      @bdaproductions9370 3 года назад

      @@johnchauke7492 Did you know the earliest heresies of the church seem to be that people didn't believe Jesus came in the flesh?

    • @johnchauke7492
      @johnchauke7492 3 года назад

      @@bdaproductions9370 Yeah I know there were some

    • @bdaproductions9370
      @bdaproductions9370 3 года назад

      @@johnchauke7492 so what I am trying to say is that these days it seems it is the reverse, the main heresy these days is denying that he was God.