A man made God will always need man-made fables to go along with it. The Fabricated Myths: 1:00 "Elohim" is a plural word form to denote multiple persons. 6:23 "Echad" means a compound unity. 11:02 Only God can forgive sins. 13:22 "Son of God" means Jesus IS God. 16:59 Jesus IS God's only begotten Son. 21:30 The Angel of the Lord is the pre-incarnate Jesus. 25:30 Ego eimi was immediately understood to be God's name at Jn 8:58. 33:13 Blasphemy necessarily means Jesus claimed to be God. 38:45 Jesus had to be God to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins. 42:48 Jesus received worship therefore Jesus is God.
Are you a Bible Student? I am an x-JW who left to become a Bible Student because I felt they have more of the truth of everything in the Bible. Anyway no matter what, I see you are a brother of truth and I am thankful to have found your channel! I have been searching for years on a way to clearly teach this truth! I shared your channel already with my Bible Student friends. Very well done, I truly cant thank you enough for doing all this work!!! One day I will make videos too when I can clearly really teach as best that I can. God Bless You Brother!
Im sorry to tell you but you are still being fooled...there is a evilness within Christianity traditional beliefs....human sacrifice is an abomination and that's what Jesus was...the disciples knew exactly what they were doing the whole time --when Jesus came back from 40 days in the desert John the Baptist called him the Lamb of God that meant he was to be sacrificed for our sins fulfilling Isaiah's prophecy ..the disciples lead Jesus to slaughter they wanted it to happen and they rejoiced in his death and they have you rejoicing in his death....when you worship blood sacrifice of Jesus it is evilness.....I weep for Jesus in a totally different way than what is traditionally taught....that's why on cross Jesus said God why have you forsaken me-forgive them they know not what they do...the act was evil...it was not Gods will it was the will of man...that's also why when Jesus took his last breath a darkness covered the land the earth shook and the temple cracked-god was not happy......human sacrifice is Ancient Jewish Babylonian under Nimrod and it resurfaced in Israel 9th BC...Isaiah's prophecy was 700BC he was very much influenced by human sacrifice .......furthermore repentance existed long before Jesus in old testament so this whole notion that without Jesus there is no forgiveness is not true....Jesus holds truth but you must interpret it correctly ....people need to realize to worship his blood and rejoice in his death is a betrayal and evil....you can not morn death of Jesus and rejoice at same time...you cant do both....please think about what your doing when worshipping traditional way of thinking Christianity
that's also why Jesus said many will come in my name to deceive you he was betrayed by the disciples known as Christianity ....the devil found his way into the bible in all the religions ...God did not favor blood sacrifice or burnt offerings.........God wants self sacrifice meaning deny your human form greed lust fast for food ect.......nobody understood self sacrifice the devil twisted it and sacrifice of the innocence became popular....Nimrod was going to sacrifice baby Abraham at Tower of Babel but he was saved and a baby lamb was put in his basket that's where lamb of God came from and sacrifice of animals became popular......
The Trinity Delusion God's salvation is Christ, Is what Luke 2:30 states. And again Isaiah 43:11 stated that besides God YHWH there is salvation. I take it clearly that Jesus was God.
Tank you Brother Kel for saving my soul. Once I gave my life to the Lord I went on the internet and came across this thing I never heard about before called ’trinity’. Christians was talking about it and I felt really bad for never really believed in it. In my country Jesus is reffered to as ”God’s son”. And that is the way I always saw him. Im so happy to see now that im far from alone to believe that Jesus was just what he claimed to be; The Mesiah and The Son of God. God bless you Brother Kel. And God bless all my uniterian brothers and sisters out there. And my the good Lord open up the eyes of these triniterians and bring them back to the One and only God, Jesus Christ’s God. 🙏
I like the way it is clarified although few people are listening but its also inspiring to listen to thankyou sir for sharing the knowledge may Yah bless you
ABRAHAM 'HEAR, O MY PEOPLE! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD. MOSES 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD. JESUS 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD. MOHAMED 'HEAR, O MANKIND! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD. TRINITARIANS 'HEAR, O PEOPLE!!!!! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE IN THREE!!
Echad is also a unity! A man and woman coming together in marriage are echad or one! They are a unity! Some 10,000 israelites were of one or echad mind! They were of one unified mind! Jesus said he thought it not robbery to be equal (or the same as) with GOD....was jesus wrong? Jesus is equal to GOD because he is GOD! I dont accept that jesus is the father. In isaiah 53 he is our father thru his salvation....he will see his offspring. Isaiah 44:6 YHWH the king of israel and his redeemer YHWH the lord of hosts says i am the 1st and i am the last and there is no GOD besides me! They have both always existed! The 2nd YHWH is the redeemer to the 1st! The 2nd YHWH is clearly jesus! This guy is off the mark! Quit elaborate! But off the mark! I'll stick to trinitarian world thank you very much!
Hi. Can I download the movie and translate it into polish? The reason why I want to translate it is because the error is so profound, that the word elohim is the gate not only to the trinity but to say that elohim might be the fallen angels. That is a seriously absurd ofcourse but thanks to help to cook 2 things on one fire.
Thanks brother Kel for these valuable insights. You do realize that if you had lived a few centuries earlier, you would have burnt at the stake for this. God bless.
Was jesus wrong when he said he thought it not robbery to be equal (or the same as) GOD? He is not wrong! See isaiah 44:6! 2 YHWH's! The 2nd is redeemer to the 1st! The 2nd YHWH id jesus! They both say i am the 1st and i am the last and there are no other GOD's! This guys thinking on the matter quit elaborate but wrong! I stick to trinity world thank you very much! Oh and when jesus said before abraham was i am (YHWH) the jews were correct in their thinking that jesus was making himself out to be equal with GOD! However jesus being GOD and equal to GOD was right and they were in error but did not know! This guy also does not know!
I was driving today listening to brother Kel which I do every day and there was signe on road Kel-em... Lord want me to share with you our brother teaching come from our Lord...👍
If you have a mythological god, you need mythological stories to go along with your god. In Trinitarianism, you are expected to resort to your imagination routinely since your three-person-God is mentioned nowhere in the entire Scriptures.
+The Trinity Delusion Nice presentation. I like to know when followers of Jesus start believing in Trinity? Is it correct to think that Messiah can not be God because Messiah is chosen by God. Also Jesus was "Servant" (Worshiper) of God, so he can not be a God.
The Trinity was a development over time which arguably is a calamity of errors over several decades. Belief in the Trinity was an controversy among the people until the reign of Theodosius who forced it upon everyone.. After the Diocletian persecution, bishops clamoured for positions of power in Constantine's new Kingdom now that Christianity was legalized. We know that around 367 CE, the Arians were winning the day concerning the Nicean controversy. Two decades later Theodosius came to power as Emperor and he was an Athanasian. After Emperor Theodosius' Edict, the people of the empire were forced to accept Athanasian theology, Trinitarianism, the state religion of the Roman empire. Arian bishops were purged out of the churches by the emperor. Having purged all the Arians, he held the Council of Constantinople now that he had his bishops in place who would "decide" in favour of his theology at this Council. It was a farce. In this way, Trinitarian "Christianity" was created by a Roman Emperor unlike the church of God established by Jesus Christ. Dissent was no longer allowed and the Athanasian bishops liked it that way. The church was now part of the Emperor's empire, so were the bishops who the Emperor deposed at will. This "church" was not separated from the world, but an organization of the world, a branch of the empire's authority structure - the state religion. Following this all manner of new doctrines were created by men approved by a worldly emperor. Theotokos, Justification for Christians to fight wars for the emperor, etc. These are easily verifiable facts. "You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." - James. They were friends of the world and enemies of God.
+The Trinity Delusion Matthew 23:9 "And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father." When Roman Catholic use the word Pope(which means Father) is that against the teachings of Jesus?
I've been reading a book entitled, "Introduction to Christian Doctrine" by Millard Erickson. He trotted out many of these myths on pages 108-118. Thanks for providing the answers to these so I can hold intelligent conversations with trinitarians. Your explanations are superb. Thanks very much!
@@marl4472 Excellent. And it seems that Truth involves *_Responsibility,_* for the time element of any burden, condition, problem or object is formed by the withdrawal of responsibility (God resting, or a trauma victim withdrawing their awareness). The moment awareness of the full Truth or Source of a condition or object is achieved, then responsibility for that object or condition can be given and this sets you free. For the more we become like God Almighty, the closer we are to Him. * Unconditionally Loving, * Perfectly Responsible, * Utterly Humble, and * Fearlessly Confident.
@@RodMartinJr very well put Brother. The real Truth is revealed to only those that hunger and thirst after HIM (who is righteousness, truth, love, and everything good). It is those truths received into a heart that will set a person free. It is the very thing that His church is built upon. Just as Jesus said in Matthew 16:17 and Matthew 5:6 God Bless
Sadly, we continue to see these same old arguments being rehashed time and time again. I have never quite understood why so many will ignore what the scriptures actually teach and instead accept belief in the incomprehensible.
@@ken440 : The great irony is that critical liberal scholars acknowledge that the doctrine of the Trinity is not found in the OT; was unknown to the NT writers and is a post -apostolic development. Yet, such scholars, tend not to believe in the Bible as the word of God . Fundamentalist, conservative and Evangelicals may claim to believe the Bible, yet they refuse to believe what it actually teaches, projecting back into it, a much later teaching.
I have question about Jesus dying for our sins. When the Bible talks about thus, does “for our sins” mean that Jesus’ death entails that his spirit would then be in his followers as new creation, and that Jesus as spirit being in them, would help them avoid committing sin? So, Jesus’ death was for our having his spirit to avoid committing sins-is this understanding correct?
JESUS CHRIST DIED. FOR ALL OF ARE SINS. AND BY HIS DEATH AND BURIAL AND RESURRECTION AND HIS SHED BLOOD. ALL OF ARE SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. IF YOU BELIEVE IN HIM.
Amen! There is only one God, The Father. We are all begotten of god but in a different sense than christ. Clearly Jesus was begotten of the father before al creation (Hebrews 1, Jhon 1:1, Proverbs 8) and was made equal with god before (Fil 2:6). Jesus is not God in person (God is only one, the father) but in nature, inherited from the father. There is a clear difference. We are begotten by adoption (Ephe 1:5), Jesus is the truly begotten. We were adopted throgugh the only begotten Jesus Christ our Lord.
Regarding the Angel of the Lord: by simple comparison between His appearances Ex. To Moses (The terminology Holy Ground, he is worshipped) make a clear distinction with other angels (such as in revelation, john was told NO worship to the Ángel only to god). By comparing these 2 basic principles it is totally Clear that the Angel of the Lord is NOT just an Angel. Is of divine nature.
El/Elohim usage is demonstrated well in Psalm 10;12,13 where in verse 12 it uses the singular El, but in verse 13 where it is amplifying the majesty of Jehovah God it uses Elohim. (plural of majesty)
A great tool for others, would be if you listed the 10 myths with time stamps in the description below. ....to make it very simple for those wanting to maybe get to one of these myths without going through the whole video. Just a thought I had as I watched it.
@@T1985-q1d Discussions started sometime in the 4th century after the 1st Council in AD 325, and finalized by the 2nd Council in AD 381. But this only started the controversies which led to one lie after another being added to patch up the original lie -- things like "co-equal," and "co-eternal." It was about this time, during the creation of the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible that the Bible was *_altered_* to support the Trinity lies. I discuss some of the details in my book *_Trinity Treason: How the church betrayed their flock with the only unforgivable sin._*
This is a great video! Thanks! Also, regarding myth #10, when Jesus was born, the wise men from the east came to worship the King of the Jews whose star they had seen. So kings were worshiped.
God is the Saviour, Jesus is the Saviour but only one can be the true saviour, if not both as one in the same saviour. Isaiah 4311I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he has visited and redeemed his people and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David. Luke 1:68-69. Lord, now you are letting your servant depart in peace, according to your word for my eyes have seen YOUR salvation. Luke 2:30
The initial question was drawn from the following statement; "God is the Saviour, Jesus is the Saviour but only one can be the true saviour, if not both as one in the same saviour." With that said, the question was not "who is Jesus ontologically", otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered to answer. There is but one divine prerogative in heaven, and that is the Fathers and His alone. It is the Father who is responsible for all things, not the Son, not the Holy Spirit, but the Father and Him alone. This is why Jesus attributed all things to His God and Father.
I tried to explain the Scriptures to Trinitarians and they will not listen to the context and most of them don't want to read them at all because it's to many and I don't have time to look up all those Scripture verses?
@@incorruptibleword4513 the messiah is God, 1 Tim 3:16. God manifested in flesh. Also John 1:14. The Word became flesh. The spirit of God was manifested in a human man, known as the Son of God. That is the revelation that Peter had. Thou are the Christ, the Son the God.
Praise God, we do our best to teach the truth, but nothing is going to crack if we are bound to contamination as he says, no man knows the son but the father, and no man knows the father niether knoweth any man the Father,, save the Son and to whomsoever the son will reveal him. Well is there any injustice in God, not at all, as he says, ‘ I love Jacob and I hate Esau’ yes it explains to us that God foreknowledge of our life, our ignorance and unbelief , we don’t want to learn the truth, amen . Yes we all eat and drink the same spiritual food and some are dying because of unbelief , God have mercy, open the eyes so we can you, as our creator, the beginning of our faith and the ending of our faith. Amen, may God bless you and guide to all truth, amen hallelujah, Amen
Hey bro, i have 2 questions for you? What denomination are you? Also baptism formula do you believe in is correct, the one in Matthew 28:19, or the one in Acts 2:38?
The trinity delusion, i respect you not having any denomination. But as far as baptism, so you were not baptized in water? If so how were you baptized?
I said that these are not to be construed as a "formula." Your question is based on a myth that Matthew 28:19 or Acts 2:38 contain a baptism "formula." That's not what these words intend. Servants do things in the name of a higher authority. That's all it means in either case. Water baptism is not something which requires abracadabra words.
@@junior76126 I believe Brother Kel is wrong about this. There is only one way that anyone was ever baptized in the book of Acts. And to think for one minute that Peter, the man that Jesus gave the keys to, could go against what Jesus commanded them to do is absurd. Jesus said to baptize in the NAME of the, and then gave 3 titles father, son, and HG. Peter knew those were only titles to the Name (Lord Jesus Christ). And if you check, you will find that they always baptized in the only name that was given to man that he must be saved by. Baptism doesn’t save anyone, but a truly saved person will be baptized correctly
Interesting about the Sons of God ... Even the angels in the begining of Job chapter 1 ... It says the Sons of God were in Yahs presence along with Gadreal(the one fallen angel who tempted eve)or Satan Were stated as being Sons of God as well .
Jesus is god according to Christians. Buddha is god according to Buddhists. Krisna is god according to Hindus. Fortunately all those human created gods points us to the One True GOD- that is the uncreated CREATOR of the heavens and earth.
its the devil maing more religions to deceive more people, because the devil would rather make more religions because people are born into them rather than changing the truth just saying :shrug:
Here are two accounts in scripture that prove that Jesus is not the Angel of the Lord. How can Jesus be in two places at the same time, Jesus spirit as a baby or Man is not omnipresent. To be taxed with Mary that was given him to wife, which was with child. And Joseph also went up from Galilee out of a city called Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem (because he was of the house and lineage of David,) ¶ And so it was, that while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her first begotten son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a cratch, because there was no room for them in the inn. ¶ And there were in the same country shepherds, abiding in the field, and keeping watch by night over their flock. And lo, the Angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone about them, and they were sore afraid. Then the Angel said unto them, Be not afraid: for behold, I bring you glad tidings of great joy, that shall be to all the people, That is, that unto you is born this day in the city of David, a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign to you, Ye shall find the babe swaddled, and laid in a cratch. And straightway there was with the Angel a multitude of heavenly soldiers, praising God, and saying, Glory be to God in the high heavens, and peace in earth, and toward men good will. And it came to pass when the Angels were gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said one to another, Let us go then unto Bethlehem, and see this thing that is come to pass, which the Lord hath showed unto us. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke.2.5,Luke.2.4,Luke.2.6,Luke.2.7,Luke.2.8,Luke.2.9,Luke.2.10,Luke.2.11,Luke.2.12,Luke.2.13,Luke.2.14,Luke.2.15&version=GNV Then Joseph her husband being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was thus, When as his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the holy Ghost. But while he thought these things, behold, the Angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, the son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her, is of the holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. And all this was done that it might be fulfilled, which is spoken of the Lord by the Prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which is by interpretation, God with us. ¶ Then Joseph being raised from sleep, did as the Angel of the Lord had enjoined him, and took his wife. But he knew her not, till she had brought forth her first born son, and he called his name JESUS. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt.1.19,Matt.1.18,Matt.1.20,Matt.1.21,Matt.1.22,Matt.1.23,Matt.1.24,Matt.1.25&version=GNV
At 29:00 you discuss Jesus saying ego eimi means he said he was God. Jesus is saying before Moses was he was. So before Moses was Jesus was... My question is how do you believe Jesus could "be" prior to Moses? Also The bible says Jesus was in the form of God. What does that mean?
The prophesy of the messiah begins in the garden of eden Genesis “3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” Jesus said before Abraham I am he. The messiah. The prophesy. The spoken word. Philippians 2:6-8 talks about how Jesus, having been given all authority by God, did not consider himself an equal to God. He humbled himself and took his place as a servant to God.
What about the Spirit of Christ in the Prophets, Prophesying the coming of Christ way before Jesus Christ was born in Mary's Womb? 1 Peter 1:10-12 I'm with you on the false trinitarian Veiw, but we also have problems with Unitarian Doctrine. There seems to be a pre- existing Spirit of Christ Prophesying through the Prophets of Jesus "Messiah's" Coming?
Not a problem. First of all, the Spirit of Christ in Trinitarianism IS NOT Christ but someone else, the 3rd person of the Trinity. Read carefully what it says in context. The Spirit of Christ is referring to the Holy Spirit in which the prophets prophesied about the coming Christ. 10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, 11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of CHRIST in them was pointing when IT witnessed the sufferings of CHRIST and the glories that would follow.
@@TheTrinityDelusionYes. I have a Soul, Spirit & Word. But my Soul is not my Spirit, Spirit is not the Word, and so on. Like this God is of Soul, Spirit & Word. Soul is referred to as the Father, Spirit is the Comforter, Word is the Saviour. One God.
The better explanation is when Jesus said I am, he was saying before Abraham was, I existed. Because I am in hebrew also means I exist and I existed. And if go by the context of what was being said then we know that is what Jesus meant because the Jews said "you arent even 50 years old."
@@TheTrinityDelusion All I am saying is trinitarians try to use that verse for their argument by saying Jesus said he was the great "I AM" when in reality Jesus was jus saying before Abraham was, I existed. Jesus begotten of God in eternity past before all creation, even before the angels.
Dear brother Kel ... am truly enJOYing your scholarly commentary on the Trinitarian delusion. I am curious IF you've ever addressed the FALSE doctrine of the ONENESS movement that adheres to the belief that "Jesus IS the Father in the flesh"?? They believe that Jesus has always existed WITH Yahweh God the Father, and that he was "incarnated" versus "created" in Mary's womb. Would it be possible for you to address some of these difficult passages such as John 17:5, John 8:58, John 10:30, 1 John 5:20, Colossians 1:16, ... ThanX you in advance for this consideration. May Yahweh God bless, keep, protect, and provide for you!!
I give you the understanding God gave me about this : Only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6. Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6. A SPIRIT *over all* ☝️: Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT* *Through all*🙏 : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body* consisting mainly in water, The rock in the OT: Exodus 17 v 1 To 7 *In all* 👈: Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11 1 john 5 v 6 6 This is *the one* who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ. *He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth* . A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST Trinity is basically Dagon worship imported by the apostate catholic church ===) 🚮
Or Isaiah 44:6, phlip 2:6. Was jesus wrong to believe that he was equal (or the same as) GOD? He is equal with GOD! He willingly subordinated himself to GOD that we know as the father!
@@jamesbayly5785 There are dozens (hundreds?) of verses where Jesus makes himself less than God the Father. So, he was not co-equal. He was not omniscient. And he was not omnipotent. He proclaimed that there were some things only God could do or could know. And he only did the things he had seen God do, following His commands.
Sir, I am non trinitarian, but you mentioned the stoning of Stephen, though perhaps I am misunderstanding you, as though there was no accusation of blasphemy. Yet these murdering men did trump up and falsify charges of blasphemy. Acts 6:11 - 14: Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses, and against God. And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council, And set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the law: For we have heard him say, that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change the customs which Moses delivered us. Now this does not provide any sort of evidence in favour of the trinitarians. It just ought to be mentioned that they tried to stone Stephen on the basis of blasphemy. Like I said, perhaps I misunderstood you, but I thought you using Stephen as an example of them stoning someone without blasphemy being the basis. Thank you for your tremendous wok in this field. This is one of the greatest lies that the Evil One ever propagated in Christianity.
The believer becomes the sons and daughters of God, spiritually by adoption via baptism but The Messiah is "the Only Begotten Son" physically; hence the strong bond and physical resemblance. Thereby, anyone who has seen the Son has seen the Father. The Father's name is in the Son. Yahuah(The Father) and Yahshua(The Son).
I love the 1st point. People LOVE translations but know only selective things about the nuances of the language. Now you have copy cat Israelites running around saying elohim is proof that God is both male and female! Point #2 i totally agree aa well. They wanns transliterate echad into trinity....that's laughable.
Many trinitarians prefer the word godhead. Godhead and trinity are words which can have more than one numerical value. (eg 1 sheep or 2 sheep)Three Gods in one therefore one God.
A person is an "only begotten" only as long as other children are not yet born/begotten. Every time the Bible uses the term "only begotten" of Jesus, it is referring to Jesus before he died and rose from the dead. No one else was begotten of God except Jesus before he rose from the dead and the Spirit was given. But now there are now many begotten sons of God, and Jesus is the firstborn of many brothers.
@@TheTrinityDelusion John 1:18 is referring to the one who _is_ in the bosom of the Father as "monogenes". It's not referring to Jesus before he died and rose from the dead; it's referring to him as he is now.
@@legron121 Yeah it is. John is talking about the Father being made known through the only begotten. That's what the whole ministry is Jesus is about in John's Gospel.
I really liked this.. Tertullian in Against Praxeas. For before all things God was alone- being in Himself and for Himself universe, and space, and all things. Moreover, He was alone, because there was nothing external to Him but Himself. Yet even not then was He alone; for He had with Him that which He possessed in Himself, that is to say, His own Reason. For God is rational, and Reason was first in Him; and so all things were from Himself. This Reason is His own Thought (or Consciousness) which the Greeks call LOGOS by which term we also designate Word or Discourse and therefore it is now usual with our people, owing to the mere simple interpretation of the term, to say that the Word was in the beginning with God; although it would be more suitable to regard Reason as the more ancient; because God had not Word from the beginning, but He had Reason even before the beginning; because also Word itself consists of Reason, which it thus proves to have been the prior existence as being its own substance. Not that this distinction is of any practical moment. For although God had not yet sent out His Word, He still had Him within Himself, both in company with and included within His very Reason, as He silently planned and arranged within Himself everything which He was afterwards about to utter through His Word. Now, while He was thus planning and arranging with His own Reason, He was actually causing that to become Word which He was dealing with in the way of Word or Discourse. And that you may the more readily understand this, consider first of all, from your own self, who are made “in the image and likeness of God,” Genesis 1:26 for what purpose it is that you also possess reason in yourself, who are a rational creature, as being not only made by a rational Artificer, but actually animated out of His substance. Observe, then, that when you are silently conversing with yourself, this very process is carried on within you by your reason, which meets you with a word at every movement of your thought, at every impulse of your conception. Whatever you think, there is a word; whatever you conceive, there is reason. You must needs speak it in your mind; and while you are speaking, you admit speech as an interlocutor with you, involved in which there is this very reason, whereby, while in thought you are holding converse with your word, you are (by reciprocal action) producing thought by means of that converse with your word. Thus, in a certain sense, the word is a second person within you, through which in thinking you utter speech, and through which also, (by reciprocity of process,) in uttering speech you generate thought. The word is itself a different thing from yourself. Now how much more fully is all this transacted in God, whose image and likeness even you are regarded as being, inasmuch as He has reason within Himself even while He is silent, and involved in that Reason His Word! I may therefore without rashness first lay this down (as a fixed principle) that even then before the creation of the universe God was not alone, since He had within Himself both Reason, and, inherent in Reason, His Word, which He made second to Himself by agitating it within Himself. (5). It is my belief that John intended to say, "and the Word was qualitatively God the Father" at John 1:1c where the Word in question is the Word which the Father spoke to create all things and was inherent within him in such a way that his own Word WAS Him. God is one and in the beginning there were not two things: (1) God, and (2) God's Word. There was only one thing: God and his Word was inherent within him. In John 1:1b, John indicates the Word was WITH God because he knows we know that he knows that he will be associating the Word with Jesus and he wants to make sure we understand what Word he has in mind in verse 14, that same Word which was with God in the begining. But lest we get the mistaken notion two things existed in the beginning he further qualifies himself. And indeed, we do find that Jesus qualitatively expresses the charcter of who and what the Father is, he being the Father's Word. God is Light; His Word is Light. God is Truth; His Word is Truth. God is Life; His Word is Life. God is Love; His Word is Love. Hence, John's intention is to remind us that the Word which was inherent within the Father, that went out on the breath of His mouth, and did become flesh, will express these characteristics, that is, the essence of these things, the Father's Word always being in the bosom of the Father, just as Love poured out does not empty the giver of Love. John's ultimate intention is this: God is Love and His Word of Truth to us is the Light and Life of His Love and that Word became embodied in flesh, the man Jesus.
God is not a coward He sent His Son Jesus ( God incarnate) to the cross. “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:10 KJV Only God Can! God the Son! God the Father in all His splendor majesty and glory would kill us in a blink of an eye.
Hi Kel, someone refuted your point about Jesus not being the only begotten son 3 days ago. ( By Request- A Response to The Trinity Delusion by Islam critiqued ). He makes the point that Abraham had more than one son yet Isaac is called the only begotten, in other words special or unique. He could have a point but he then says his uniqueness is connected with him existing in eternity. Do you not think that Jesus when called the son of God in Luke 1 has a different sonship than us in the sense that his father is God whereas our fathers are all human. In Acts 9 v 20 Paul preaches in the synagogue that Christ is the son of God at a time that some had the right to call themselves sons of God ie after the resurrection
I don't even argue that Jesus is an only begotten son of God. I have videos stating otherwise. Nobody is denying Jesus was unique. But he is no longer God's only begotten child. Jesus was unique in many ways. His earthly humanity was unique in the sense his father was God and our natural human birth involved a human father. However, believers die to that life and are begotten again, a second time, this time by God. I'm not sure why everyone always forgets this. In this respect, believers are in the same condition Jesus was between his baptism and his death. That's why they are to pick up their cross as he did. Concerning Paul, see Romans 8:14. The Scriptures are quite plainly clear that believers are those who are begotten children of God. John's writings contain ample statements to this effect. No believer is an only begotten son nor is there any argument that believers are a monogenes son as Christ was. Christ was an only begotten son but now no longer is. Now he is the firstborn of many brothers. And again he is unique in that he is the only one resurrected from the dead to new life - Acts 13:33. From our perspective, he will always be unique in some respect. But no one can reasonably deny that God begets many children. The Bible says so many times. Jesus is the firstborn of them all.
Only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6. Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6. A SPIRIT *over all* ☝️: Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT* *Through all*🙏 : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body* consisting mainly in water, The rock in the OT: Exodus 17 v 1 To 7 *In all* 👈: Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11 1 john 5 v 6 6 This is *the one* who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ. *He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth* . A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST Trinity is basically Dagon worship imported by the apostate catholic church ===) 🚮
@@sbeasley7585 Three different distinctions termed theologically as persons - the Father, His Word and His Spirit coexisting eternally as one being or one entity we call God. The Father, His Word and His Spirit are not three entities.
Trinitarians believe God is made of 3 distinct _persons_ -- Father, Son, & Spirit. They say the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God. But the Father is NOT the Son, the Son is NOT the Spirit, and the Spirit is NOT the Father. These 3 _persons_ function as a single deity called the Godhead (or God). Each _person_ has an independent mind. As such, each _person_ has independent speech. God the Son spoke to his disciples. God the Father spoke to Moses. God the Spirit never spoke to anyone, as far as I know from reading the NT, but one can assume the Spirit also has the ability to speak since each _person_ is co-equal to the other _persons_ of the deity. So of each _person_ can think freely and speak freely, then answer me this... If you heard all 3 _persons_ speak at the exact same time, would you hear 1 voice, or 3 distinct voices? If the Trinitarian is honest, the answer is they would hear 3 different voices coming from 3 distinct _persons._ But IF the Godhead (God) spoke, would you hear 1 voice or 3 voices? If you said 3, you're dishonest. Everyone can surmise IF the Godhead spoke, you'd hear one voice. IF you somehow heard 3 separate voices, then the Trinity claiming to be one God is 100% false. However, IF the Godhead spoke, and you heard a single distinct voice, then the Trinity is still false because you now have a 4th _person_ representing the combined 3 _persons_ combined. So if there's a 4th entity representing the 3 _persons_ combined, then the Trinity should actually be Quadrinity, right? Think about it... each _person_ has independent thought and speech, so the combined deity is a 4th entity, which disproves the Trinity 100%. The Trinity is man-made, completely false, and the work of the devil. You cannot have 3 distinct _persons_ in the Godhead and still believe in monotheism. Trinitarian Christianity is 100% polytheism, and therefore against everything the Bible teaches about ONE true God.
@@gaiusoctavius5935 All that means is that God's decree is not something you can separate from Him. God's words (commands) are concrete and final. That verse doesn't mean Jesus is God. That verse means God's words belong to Him and Him alone. Throughout history God has sent prophets and messengers to relay God's commands to the people. Jesus was a mighty messenger of God Almighty, and he did everything God commanded him to do. Jesus even said he can do NOTHING on his own, everything he does is by God's commands. Jesus also said God sent him. Jesus prayed to God. Jesus told you he would ascend to his God, your God...the same God that he worshipped is also the same God you're commanded to worship. When Jesus bowed down and worshipped God in the Garden of Gethsemane, was he praying to himself? Of course he wasn't, so why do you pray in Jesus's name when Jesus never told you to do that?
@@thewallcometh1444 Wow the mental gymnastics you have to go through to reinterpret John 1:1 is amazing. Because John 1:14 goes on to state: And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. It wasn't talking about some abstract teaching about God's words being final and his commands being concrete, it was talking about the living word Christ Jesus who is Lord and God over all. And secondly there is no problem with God the Son praying or talking to God the Father. When he prayed he showed His dependence upon His Father in His humanity to carry out His Father’s plan of redemption, His praying demonstrated that He ultimately submitted to His Father’s will. God the Son is doing nothing wrong when he submits to the Father although they are of the same nature. It's like an Employee and an Employer although they are both different in what they do and the stations they hold, both of them are the same in their nature ie both are human. The same can be said of the members of the Trinity. All three members (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are essentially equal; i.e., they are all divine in nature. However, in the grand plan of redemption, they play certain roles, and these roles define authority and subservience. The Father commands the Son, and the Father and the Son command the Holy Spirit. And when Jesus was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane, he was praying to God the Father. This wasn't an act of worship this was Jesus at his lowest point, literally begging his father to take the cup of suffering away from him. Although in the end he said "Not my will but yours" changing the world forever. And Jesus does ask us to pray to the Father in his name, John 14:13-14 says: "And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." Now that I sufficiently dismantled your arguments, I'd like to offer you a chance to actually accept Christ as your Lord and Savior by doing what Paul says in Romans 10:9: "If you declare with your mouth, Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
@@gaiusoctavius5935 I’ll make it easier. What is the word of God? Is it the son? The son said the words he speaks are not his own but the fathers words. Seems to me that the word belongs to the father. Jesus the son was given the words to speak. So…..in what way is Jesus the word? Remember, trinity doctrine states the three cannot be confused with one another. If the word is the fathers word, not the godhead word, the fathers word, that means the word belongs to the father and Jesus cannot be that word because that would make him and the father the same. The father is not the son. The son is not the father. Makes more sense if the word is the fathers and it was put into the son by the father to be spoken. Which is what the Bible says happens. Jesus is not God. He is the temple in which god, the Father, dwells. Temples are not God. When we are born again, God comes to dwell in us as well. We become temples for God. We do not become God.
@@gaiusoctavius5935 you realize Jesus enters the story at John 1:14 right? No mental gymnastics. If you don’t believe me, just reference what Jesus himself said about the word. You can choose to believe Jesus or some fourth century galaxy brain men with an agenda. Your choice.
Mono-genes means one of a kind, or unique son of God, to indicate uniqueness. The word “son” already implies begotten which is one reason to know genes (kind) - not genao (generated) - 😂is intended. 19:42
I think the only issue I even have is that you dont believe Jesus is God. But the more I think about the lies of trinity and protestantism I realize one of their creeds deals with the deity of Christ ruling in favor of him being God. That alone is the only thing that forces me to stop and study it out. Is Jesus God now post glorification?
Just a thought: When are Christians begotten of God? Is it at the confession of the mouth, or is it at the baptism? Is this begetting simultaneous with the imparting of the Holy Spirit? If at the baptism, then it would make sense for Jesus too, like David, I would assume. The Kings were anointed, or masach and made mashiach, at their anointing. When did God make Jesus the Messiah? -- at his baptism, his birth, or resurrection? This would make sense, at the Baptism, if this was the same time he was begotten -- Just like David. Obviously this presupposes that the virgin birth -- conception -- was a later addition.
Jesus was the designated Anointed One/Messiah. But you can't do your Messiah-ing until you are anointed which occurred when he received the Spirit at the Jordan. The Spirit gives life. When we receive the Spirit of God we enter into a new life.
When they come (Jesuits) to kill you it make it hard to stay in the way , when you come out of trinity religion there no one to help in the pain as you must know , but did they (Jesuits) go out of there way to kill you ? IT all end in Rev 22:16 when it come to I AM .
John 1.1 doesn't say Jesus is GOD, but more accurately, that the word was GOD. But many people today don't care about such things, as they are so preoccupied in defending their man-made gods and doctrine that they cannot be bothered with the written truth.
The (Trinitarians) shall die in their sins. The (Trinity) is not only a vain, idle, perverse, corrupt, word of confusion and the word is not only not found in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures, but the doctrine of the (Trinity) is also a lie, a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy. Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 2Peters 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate, the Almighty and he is known by many names. God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit and when he was manifested in the flesh he was known as the Son of God and the Son of man. The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3:5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1: 1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Jesus is the Father, the everlasting Father, the Almighty: John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Trinity is not a Myth. Read below: You don’t understand the Trinity. The Trinity is a descriptive word that teaches the Nature of the One True God, Yahweh. Again the Trinity is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old Testament and New Testament about the nature of The One True God, Yahweh, who function through three distinct extension or person who a parts of Himself; The One God Yahweh is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are not three other gods; The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is who the One God, Yahweh is. What the Trinity described is in the Old Testament and The New Testament. 📖 Read: Philippians 2:5-9 - Jesus is God but not the Father. Because Jesus is God; He is the Word. Because Jesus who is God emptied Himself of His Divine Power to become man; Jesus prayed to the Father. If Jesus had not separated from the Father, He would not be praying to The Father, because The Father, The Son and Spirit is who the One God Yahweh is. 📖 Read: Hebrew 1:5-12 - Jesus is not an Angel; and God teaches us Jesus is God. 📖 Read: Isaiah 53 - The Prophesy of who Jesus is. 📖 Read: John 14:26, God sends the Spirit, the Spirit is God but is also distinct from God. 📖 Read: Revelation 1-8 - God is Alpha and Omega. 📖 Read: Revelation 22:13 - Jesus say He is Alpha and Omega. For Facts, Evidence and Truth on the Trinity research: 1. A Muslim through evidence accepted the Trinity, Nabeel Qureshi. 2. An Atheist through evidence accepted the Trinity, J. W. Wallace. 3. John Lennox 4. Frank Turek
"Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." The mentioned "Father"(1) is the almighty God. He only dwells in a distant past "the world has not known you" (He existed before the birth of mankind), therefore "no one ever saw God". At that time He was the "omnipotent God", not a spirit. This means that now only the (2) Holy Spirit and (3) Son are present, no "third divine Person" exists. The Holy Spirit is the "Father in the form of a spirit" (see John "God is a spirit", but - since the Father is God - that verse also means "the Father is a spirit"). In fact the omnipotent God is not confined in that distant past and is able to be here in our present time, however, just in the form of a spirit. Jesus thus has the "Father who is a spirit" and calls Him sometimes "Father", sometimes "Spirit" (Holy Spirit), this is why confusion arises. But just a "God's Duality" is here, they are just TWO “I am not alone because the Father is with me.” Sometimes people are "filled with the Spirit", this means that God - who is a spirit - is actively inside those people, to be in an intense relationship to them.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English YESHUA/JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE "LIVING GOD" 3 TIMES John 18:1-10 Yeshua said these things and went forth with his disciples to the crossing of the torrent of Qedrown; The place was a garden, where he and his disciples entered. 2But Yehuda the traitor had also known that place, because Yeshua had met there many times with his disciples. 3Therefore Yehuda led a company* also from the presence of the Chief Priests and the Pharisees. He led the guards and came there with torches and lamps and weapons. 4But Yeshua, because he knew all these things had come upon him, went out and said to them, "Whom are you seeking?" 5They were saying to him, "Yeshua the Nazarene." Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD." But Yehuda the traitor was also standing with them. 6And when Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", they went backward and fell to the ground. 7Yeshua said again, "Whom are you seeking?" But they said, "Yeshua the Nazarene." 8Yeshua said to them, "I have told you that "I AM" THE LIVING GOD, and if you are seeking me, let these men go", 9So that the saying might be fulfilled: "Of Those whom you have given me, I have not lost one." * 10But Shimeon Kaypha had a sword on him and he drew it and struck the servant of The High Priest and took off his right ear, and the name of the servant was Malka. verse 6 6And when Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", they went backward and fell to the ground... WHEN JESUS SAID "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", THE SOLDIERS FELL BACKWARD TO THE GROUND.. JESUS SAID HIS NAME AS "I AM" (EHYEH) IN EXODUS 3 AS THE ALMIGHTY GOD THAT APPEARED TO ABRAHAM IN GENESIS 17 AND CHANGE HIS NAME FROM ABRAM TO ABRAHAM AND HIS WIFE SARAI TO SARAH AND WALK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ABRAHAM IN GENESIS 18.. JESUS ALSO CHANGE THE NAME OF JACOB TO ISRAEL AND SAUL TO PAUL.
God is one not three. If there were three Gods then which one would take the throne? There would just be chaos everywhere and there wouldn’t be any order in the universe. The reason why some people believe this is because this is the result of Jesus Christ’s original message becoming corrupt over time. And even if it does talk about the trinity in the Bible, this doesn’t matter because there are over 200 different versions of the Bible and it is not in its original form. The final prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to clear up these misconceptions and to re-establish the same pure message that all of the other prophets and messengers in the past have preached. He was sent with the last revelation until the day of judgement which is the Quran. This book is the criterion over all religion and it is a historical fact that not a single letter has changed ever since revelation. And there is nowhere in here that says God is three. May God guide you all to the straight path :)
Allow me to share Facts: ✝️ The Trinity describes what is taught in the Old Testament and New Testament: Read it: Philippians 2:5-9 Hebrews 1:5-7 John 14:2 🚨Trinitarian believe in One God, Yahweh. 🚨 The word “Trinity” is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old and New Testament. Tertullian, an early Christian theologian from Carthage, is known to be the first to use the word “Trinity” to describe the Bible over a 100 years before the Council of Nicaea. 📖 Read the verses below: - Phil 2:5-9, teach Jesus is a part of the One God who is distinct God the Father. - Hebrew 1:5-12, teaches Jesus is not an Angel; and, God the Father tells us the Son is God. - John 14:26, The Spirit is God but is also distinct from God. That’s why the Father can send Him. - Revelations 22:13, Jesus is eternal, Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. This is Fact per Jesus. ✝️ The Trinity believes only in the One God Yahweh, who within is nature is Father, Son, and Spirit. Father, Son and Spirit together is who the One and Only God, Yahweh is. No Myth; Biblical Facts
I don't think Jesus had to be God not to sin... but he was because the bible said that all have sinned and fall short. God is the only one sinless or perfect and he was more than human. He also did make a spiritual sacrifice. Jesus was a man and he was God. The bread of God is the GOSPEL. Kel you stated that God does not have blood being a spirit, but God being a man tentatively would. Have you addressed Acts 2:28 which states that God in fact has blood? Acts 2:28 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Not so. God made the first man and woman sinless. They had the ability to pass satans test. Adam and Eve were created sinless and lived for some time sinless proving that man can be sinless. Only three have ever been that wasn’t born into sin. Adam, Eve and Jesus. Adam and Eve were tempted and failed. Jesus was tempted and resisted temptation proving that man was not a failed creation. You see? Jesus was a man the same as Adam. He had to be. Part of the redemption is in proving that man is capable of being as God intended. Jesus could have failed his test. Had he failed, he would have suffered the same fate as Adam, damning all of us in the process. This is why Jesus was rewarded so greatly by God. This is why God gave him all authority. If Jesus had failed, Satan would have been proven right which means God would have been wrong. Think about that. God cannot be wrong. There was much more at stake than just our salvation.
The moment Jesus life passed away from him on the cross Satan lost his wager with God. Jesus said it is finished. What do you think Satan was trying to do when he came down to Eve in the garden? He knew he couldn’t defeat God. God is almighty. What was his intention? He wanted to prove God fallible. If he could prove that man was a failed creation, he could show God to be wrong. When Jesus life passed from him, it proved Gods creation, man, was not a failed creation.
Furthermore, why do you think God didn’t just destroy Satan and be done with it? God is almighty. He could destroy Satan at any time. The reason is because Satan challenged Gods infallible nature. God couldn’t just do away with Satan without first proving he is indeed infallible. Jesus couldn’t be God because that would defeat the purpose. People always forget about Satan and why we need redemption in the first place. The prophesy of the messiah happened in the garden of Eden. Genesis “3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.” This is where it all began.
@@driller7714 3yrs ago I posted that and have since considered the creation being perfect prior to the fall. But it could be argued Christ came post fall but of course we know he was slain at the foundation so he supersedes time. Christ is God.
This is absurd, let me get this straight the entire Bible is just geared toward a man. A dead man runs the Church. A dead man forgives sins. 66 books are dedicated toward a man. Truth is Jesus Christ is Lord and God
Your post is rooted in presumptive ignorance. The entire Bible is "geared" toward God and what He did through a man whom He sent. A man risen and glorified by God doesn't only "run the Church" but had all things in creation subjected to him by God. See Hebrews 2:5-8. And have a look at Matthew 9:8 while you are at it. In this account, Jesus was proving the Pharisees were wrong. So whose side are you on?
The Trinity Delusion here is the deal you made the either or fallacy. Jesus is truly man and truly God at the same time. Moses wrote all about Jesus John 5 “I do not receive honor from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you-Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” Jesus was also in the Old Testament as the angel of the Lord and Abraham kneeled down before the trinity Genesis 18 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.” They said, “Do as you have said.” So will you change your channel to the Unitarian delusion or will you continue your trip to Hell with Unitarianism. You saw the truth it’s whether or not you recognize it
@@pwx13 Wrong again. The following videos from my channel demonstrate why: ruclips.net/video/7kj4BW2RP5I/видео.html ruclips.net/video/U4CF9I7JDSA/видео.html
The Trinity Delusion wow another hour worth of heresy to claw through, you don’t repent, you just make another video. Jesus does love you even though you reject him. Right now if you die everything in your life will be worthless and your afterlife will be Hell. Colossians 1 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. Jesus was there before anything existed. To try to take that away from Jesus is prideful and idolatry, your beliefs are like the Muslims and the Catholics. You have new world order beliefs.
All of this was debunked so hard by Islam Critiqued a year ago (and basic understanding of the language and context), the fact that it is still on here just spills your malicious intent.
Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.-
And how does this prove Jesus is God? The first part clearly proves otherwise because if you're an image of something or someone You're not literally that thing or person. If i hold up an image of my wife, that image represents my wife perfectly, but it is not my wife.
Because Jesus responds to the Jews in the book of John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Really? Where did you get your degree? have you been keeping up with OT scholarship? Let me help you.. ruclips.net/video/CUkhWBKCuXc/видео.html
elohim is translated as gods in the first of the ten commandments Exodus 20:3---Exodus 20:2 the LORD is Israel's Elohim in that he brought Israel out of Egypt He was the Elohim Gods superior to Egypt's elohim gods echad is one used for many-in-one day and night in Genesis 1:5 for one (first) day, one flesh for man and wife Genesis 2:23 flesh means group? da means group? you are presupposed without fact completed
I suggest you make it clear to all what you actually believe. Instead you seem confused, extremely repetitive, and angry. rolling your eyes a lot isn't doing you many favours either.
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A man made God will always need man-made fables to go along with it.
The Fabricated Myths:
1:00 "Elohim" is a plural word form to denote multiple persons.
6:23 "Echad" means a compound unity.
11:02 Only God can forgive sins.
13:22 "Son of God" means Jesus IS God.
16:59 Jesus IS God's only begotten Son.
21:30 The Angel of the Lord is the pre-incarnate Jesus.
25:30 Ego eimi was immediately understood to be God's name at Jn 8:58.
33:13 Blasphemy necessarily means Jesus claimed to be God.
38:45 Jesus had to be God to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins.
42:48 Jesus received worship therefore Jesus is God.
Are you a Bible Student? I am an x-JW who left to become a Bible Student because I felt they have more of the truth of everything in the Bible. Anyway no matter what, I see you are a brother of truth and I am thankful to have found your channel! I have been searching for years on a way to clearly teach this truth! I shared your channel already with my Bible Student friends. Very well done, I truly cant thank you enough for doing all this work!!! One day I will make videos too when I can clearly really teach as best that I can. God Bless You Brother!
the Hebrew word you are referring, to does not end with an M its an N If Jesus is the KING of KINGS is not also God the King
Im sorry to tell you but you are still being fooled...there is a evilness within Christianity traditional beliefs....human sacrifice is an abomination and that's what Jesus was...the disciples knew exactly what they were doing the whole time --when Jesus came back from 40 days in the desert John the Baptist called him the Lamb of God that meant he was to be sacrificed for our sins fulfilling Isaiah's prophecy ..the disciples lead Jesus to slaughter they wanted it to happen and they rejoiced in his death and they have you rejoicing in his death....when you worship blood sacrifice of Jesus it is evilness.....I weep for Jesus in a totally different way than what is traditionally taught....that's why on cross Jesus said God why have you forsaken me-forgive them they know not what they do...the act was evil...it was not Gods will it was the will of man...that's also why when Jesus took his last breath a darkness covered the land the earth shook and the temple cracked-god was not happy......human sacrifice is Ancient Jewish Babylonian under Nimrod and it resurfaced in Israel 9th BC...Isaiah's prophecy was 700BC he was very much influenced by human sacrifice .......furthermore repentance existed long before Jesus in old testament so this whole notion that without Jesus there is no forgiveness is not true....Jesus holds truth but you must interpret it correctly ....people need to realize to worship his blood and rejoice in his death is a betrayal and evil....you can not morn death of Jesus and rejoice at same time...you cant do both....please think about what your doing when worshipping traditional way of thinking Christianity
that's also why Jesus said many will come in my name to deceive you he was betrayed by the disciples known as Christianity ....the devil found his way into the bible in all the religions ...God did not favor blood sacrifice or burnt offerings.........God wants self sacrifice meaning deny your human form greed lust fast for food ect.......nobody understood self sacrifice the devil twisted it and sacrifice of the innocence became popular....Nimrod was going to sacrifice baby Abraham at Tower of Babel but he was saved and a baby lamb was put in his basket that's where lamb of God came from and sacrifice of animals became popular......
The Trinity Delusion God's salvation is Christ, Is what Luke 2:30 states. And again Isaiah 43:11 stated that besides God YHWH there is salvation. I take it clearly that Jesus was God.
Tank you Brother Kel for saving my soul. Once I gave my life to the Lord I went on the internet and came across this thing I never heard about before called ’trinity’. Christians was talking about it and I felt really bad for never really believed in it. In my country Jesus is reffered to as ”God’s son”. And that is the way I always saw him. Im so happy to see now that im far from alone to believe that Jesus was just what he claimed to be; The Mesiah and The Son of God. God bless you Brother Kel. And God bless all my uniterian brothers and sisters out there. And my the good Lord open up the eyes of these triniterians and bring them back to the One and only God, Jesus Christ’s God. 🙏
GREAT work Brother Kel.
I like the way it is clarified although few people are listening but its also inspiring to listen to thankyou sir for sharing the knowledge may Yah bless you
Great summary points
Scripture is very clear for those that seek the truth in it.
This is such a relief to listen you - you articulate so clearly everything I believe but didn't have the words to argue. Thank you
ABRAHAM 'HEAR, O MY PEOPLE! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.
MOSES 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.
JESUS 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.
MOHAMED 'HEAR, O MANKIND! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.
TRINITARIANS 'HEAR, O PEOPLE!!!!! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE IN THREE!!
Echad is also a unity! A man and woman coming together in marriage are echad or one! They are a unity! Some 10,000 israelites were of one or echad mind! They were of one unified mind! Jesus said he thought it not robbery to be equal (or the same as) with GOD....was jesus wrong? Jesus is equal to GOD because he is GOD! I dont accept that jesus is the father. In isaiah 53 he is our father thru his salvation....he will see his offspring. Isaiah 44:6 YHWH the king of israel and his redeemer YHWH the lord of hosts says i am the 1st and i am the last and there is no GOD besides me! They have both always existed! The 2nd YHWH is the redeemer to the 1st! The 2nd YHWH is clearly jesus! This guy is off the mark! Quit elaborate! But off the mark! I'll stick to trinitarian world thank you very much!
All monotheists: God is one!
Trinitarians: Yes, the three of him...
@@jamesbayly5785you are willfully ignoring the truth
@@jamesbayly5785you are expressing the opinions of demons and this trinity nonsense is like devil worship. You don't really love God
Thank you Lord and thank you brother...
Excellent points!
Hi. Can I download the movie and translate it into polish?
The reason why I want to translate it is because the error is so profound, that the word elohim is the gate not only to the trinity but to say that elohim might be the fallen angels. That is a seriously absurd ofcourse but thanks to help to cook 2 things on one fire.
Sure, go ahead.
Love this💜
Thanks brother Kel for these valuable insights. You do realize that if you had lived a few centuries earlier, you would have burnt at the stake for this. God bless.
They will kill you today too.
yes Kel--the hour cometh--when no-one can work--be blessed
Was jesus wrong when he said he thought it not robbery to be equal (or the same as) GOD? He is not wrong! See isaiah 44:6! 2 YHWH's! The 2nd is redeemer to the 1st! The 2nd YHWH id jesus! They both say i am the 1st and i am the last and there are no other GOD's! This guys thinking on the matter quit elaborate but wrong! I stick to trinity world thank you very much! Oh and when jesus said before abraham was i am (YHWH) the jews were correct in their thinking that jesus was making himself out to be equal with GOD! However jesus being GOD and equal to GOD was right and they were in error but did not know! This guy also does not know!
Funny you should say that! Sometimes I feel like some trinitarians
would almost be willing to DO that!
( of course I'm kidding).
@@jamesbayly5785you just want to believe in the lies you were taught. The Trinity is false and is unholy
I was driving today listening to brother Kel which I do every day and there was signe on road Kel-em... Lord want me to share with you our brother teaching come from our Lord...👍
Good points. Very helpful.
Deep stuff. Frees the mind. Thank you brother
This cleared up what I wasn't understanding in our other thread. Thanks.
If you have a mythological god, you need mythological stories to go along with your god. In Trinitarianism, you are expected to resort to your imagination routinely since your three-person-God is mentioned nowhere in the entire Scriptures.
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Nice presentation. I like to know when followers of Jesus start believing in Trinity? Is it correct to think that Messiah can not be God because Messiah is chosen by God. Also Jesus was "Servant" (Worshiper) of God, so he can not be a God.
The Trinity was a development over time which arguably is a calamity of errors over several decades. Belief in the Trinity was an controversy among the people until the reign of Theodosius who forced it upon everyone.. After the Diocletian persecution, bishops clamoured for positions of power in Constantine's new Kingdom now that Christianity was legalized. We know that around 367 CE, the Arians were winning the day concerning the Nicean controversy. Two decades later Theodosius came to power as Emperor and he was an Athanasian. After Emperor Theodosius' Edict, the people of the empire were forced to accept Athanasian theology, Trinitarianism, the state religion of the Roman empire. Arian bishops were purged out of the churches by the emperor. Having purged all the Arians, he held the Council of Constantinople now that he had his bishops in place who would "decide" in favour of his theology at this Council. It was a farce. In this way, Trinitarian "Christianity" was created by a Roman Emperor unlike the church of God established by Jesus Christ. Dissent was no longer allowed and the Athanasian bishops liked it that way. The church was now part of the Emperor's empire, so were the bishops who the Emperor deposed at will. This "church" was not separated from the world, but an organization of the world, a branch of the empire's authority structure - the state religion. Following this all manner of new doctrines were created by men approved by a worldly emperor. Theotokos, Justification for Christians to fight wars for the emperor, etc. These are easily verifiable facts.
"You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." - James.
They were friends of the world and enemies of God.
The Trinity Delusion Disappointed to see you using CE instead of AD. Another victory for secularization every time...
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Matthew 23:9 "And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father."
When Roman Catholic use the word Pope(which means Father) is that against the teachings of Jesus?
Because they don't know the Father.
Incredible lesson. Thank you.
Thats as well done as it can be done,, If you top this video I will let you know.. Absurd is a word I really like as is also the word MYTH.
I've been reading a book entitled, "Introduction to Christian Doctrine" by Millard Erickson. He trotted out many of these myths on pages 108-118. Thanks for providing the answers to these so I can hold intelligent conversations with trinitarians. Your explanations are superb. Thanks very much!
Seeking truth sets one free.
No, Finding Truth sets you free. You must seek with all your heart and then you will find it and be set free.
@@marl4472 Excellent. And it seems that Truth involves *_Responsibility,_* for the time element of any burden, condition, problem or object is formed by the withdrawal of responsibility (God resting, or a trauma victim withdrawing their awareness). The moment awareness of the full Truth or Source of a condition or object is achieved, then responsibility for that object or condition can be given and this sets you free.
For the more we become like God Almighty, the closer we are to Him.
* Unconditionally Loving,
* Perfectly Responsible,
* Utterly Humble, and
* Fearlessly Confident.
@@RodMartinJr very well put Brother. The real Truth is revealed to only those that hunger and thirst after HIM (who is righteousness, truth, love, and everything good).
It is those truths received into a heart that will set a person free. It is the very thing that His church is built upon.
Just as Jesus said in Matthew 16:17 and Matthew 5:6
God Bless
Sadly, we continue to see these same old arguments being rehashed time and time again. I have never quite understood why so many will ignore what the scriptures actually teach and instead accept belief in the incomprehensible.
yes it is sad that trinitarians still rehash and teach this stuff that Kel exposes.
@@ken440 : The great irony is that critical liberal scholars acknowledge that the doctrine of the Trinity is not found in the OT; was unknown to the NT writers and is a post -apostolic development. Yet, such scholars, tend not to believe in the Bible as the word of God . Fundamentalist, conservative and Evangelicals may claim to believe the Bible, yet they refuse to believe what it actually teaches, projecting back into it, a much later teaching.
I have question about Jesus dying for our sins. When the Bible talks about thus, does “for our sins” mean that Jesus’ death entails that his spirit would then be in his followers as new creation, and that Jesus as spirit being in them, would help them avoid committing sin? So, Jesus’ death was for our having his spirit to avoid committing sins-is this understanding correct?
JESUS CHRIST DIED. FOR ALL OF ARE SINS. AND BY HIS DEATH AND BURIAL AND RESURRECTION AND HIS SHED BLOOD. ALL OF ARE SINS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. IF YOU BELIEVE IN HIM.
JUST WATCH THIS VIDEO; THE GOD OF JESUS EXCELLENT YOU WILL LIKE IT GOD BLESS YOU MY BROTHER
the word trinity is not in the holy words proverbs 30:5,6 all who accept the trinity will and have denied the God of Jesus
Amen! There is only one God, The Father. We are all begotten of god but in a different sense than christ. Clearly Jesus was begotten of the father before al creation (Hebrews 1, Jhon 1:1, Proverbs 8) and was made equal with god before (Fil 2:6). Jesus is not God in person (God is only one, the father) but in nature, inherited from the father. There is a clear difference. We are begotten by adoption (Ephe 1:5), Jesus is the truly begotten. We were adopted throgugh the only begotten Jesus Christ our Lord.
GOD is one person: the Father. My Father, Jesus’ Father. Adam’s Father. Moses’ Father.
Regarding the Angel of the Lord: by simple comparison between His appearances Ex. To Moses (The terminology Holy Ground, he is worshipped) make a clear distinction with other angels (such as in revelation, john was told NO worship to the Ángel only to god). By comparing these 2 basic principles it is totally Clear that the Angel of the Lord is NOT just an Angel. Is of divine nature.
El/Elohim usage is demonstrated well in Psalm 10;12,13 where in verse 12 it uses the singular El, but in verse 13 where it is amplifying the majesty of Jehovah God it uses Elohim. (plural of majesty)
Myth #9 is huge and has been my biggest problem with people who think this way. It destroys the whole purpose.
A great tool for others, would be if you listed the 10 myths with time stamps in the description below. ....to make it very simple for those wanting to maybe get to one of these myths without going through the whole video. Just a thought I had as I watched it.
That's a good idea.... I think.
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Nice teaching. "Echad" is most convincing one. I like to know when Trinitarianism started. Which year thanks.
@@T1985-q1d Discussions started sometime in the 4th century after the 1st Council in AD 325, and finalized by the 2nd Council in AD 381. But this only started the controversies which led to one lie after another being added to patch up the original lie -- things like "co-equal," and "co-eternal." It was about this time, during the creation of the Latin Vulgate version of the Bible that the Bible was *_altered_* to support the Trinity lies. I discuss some of the details in my book *_Trinity Treason: How the church betrayed their flock with the only unforgivable sin._*
This is a great video! Thanks! Also, regarding myth #10, when Jesus was born, the wise men from the east came to worship the King of the Jews whose star they had seen. So kings were worshiped.
God is the Saviour, Jesus is the Saviour but only one can be the true saviour, if not both as one in the same saviour.
Isaiah 4311I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he has visited and redeemed his people and has raised up a horn of salvation for us
in the house of his servant David. Luke 1:68-69.
Lord, now you are letting your servant depart in peace,
according to your word for my eyes have seen YOUR salvation. Luke 2:30
The Trinity Delusion God's salvation is Christ because they are 1, there is one God.
Who sent who?
Seems straightforward to me. The Father sent the Son. Jesus is the salvation given to us by God.
JohnBee seems that way but there's more to the cookie. The question is then who is Jesus ontologically?
The initial question was drawn from the following statement; "God is the Saviour, Jesus is the Saviour but only one can be the true saviour, if not both as one in the same saviour."
With that said, the question was not "who is Jesus ontologically", otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered to answer. There is but one divine prerogative in heaven, and that is the Fathers and His alone. It is the Father who is responsible for all things, not the Son, not the Holy Spirit, but the Father and Him alone. This is why Jesus attributed all things to His God and Father.
I tried to explain the Scriptures to Trinitarians and they will not listen to the context and most of them don't want to read them at all because it's to many and I don't have time to look up all those Scripture verses?
This brother is spitting some truth! Love it. Sounds Canadian, too. Where you from, eh?
Majestic plural
Very good video.. Have you addressed Thomas' words to Jesus?- John 20:28
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Jesus is telling you “who do you say I AM”
Who’s asking? “Tell him I AM sent you.
The answer is the messiah the SON OF the living GOD(the father). See Peters answer in scripture.
@@incorruptibleword4513 the messiah is God, 1 Tim 3:16. God manifested in flesh. Also John 1:14. The Word became flesh.
The spirit of God was manifested in a human man, known as the Son of God.
That is the revelation that Peter had. Thou are the Christ, the Son the God.
Praise God, we do our best to teach the truth, but nothing is going to crack if we are bound to contamination as he says, no man knows the son but the father, and no man knows the father niether knoweth any man the Father,, save the Son and to whomsoever the son will reveal him. Well is there any injustice in God, not at all, as he says, ‘ I love Jacob and I hate Esau’ yes it explains to us that God foreknowledge of our life, our ignorance and unbelief , we don’t want to learn the truth, amen . Yes we all eat and drink the same spiritual food and some are dying because of unbelief , God have mercy, open the eyes so we can you, as our creator, the beginning of our faith and the ending of our faith. Amen, may God bless you and guide to all truth, amen hallelujah,
Amen
Hey bro, i have 2 questions for you? What denomination are you? Also baptism formula do you believe in is correct, the one in Matthew 28:19, or the one in Acts 2:38?
I have no "denomination."
I don't believe either Matthew 28:19 or Acts 2:38 contain any "formula." We don't need abracadabra words.
The trinity delusion, i respect you not having any denomination. But as far as baptism, so you were not baptized in water? If so how were you baptized?
I said that these are not to be construed as a "formula." Your question is based on a myth that Matthew 28:19 or Acts 2:38 contain a baptism "formula." That's not what these words intend. Servants do things in the name of a higher authority.
That's all it means in either case. Water baptism is not something which requires abracadabra words.
@@junior76126 you need to be circumzied not baptized.
@@junior76126 I believe Brother Kel is wrong about this. There is only one way that anyone was ever baptized in the book of Acts. And to think for one minute that Peter, the man that Jesus gave the keys to, could go against what Jesus commanded them to do is absurd.
Jesus said to baptize in the NAME of the, and then gave 3 titles father, son, and HG. Peter knew those were only titles to the Name (Lord Jesus Christ). And if you check, you will find that they always baptized in the only name that was given to man that he must be saved by.
Baptism doesn’t save anyone, but a truly saved person will be baptized correctly
Sir, what church do you attend?🤗
This gentleman is very likely a biblical unitarian.
He is likely a biblical unitarian or the like.
Please keep face further and
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Your information useful for bible study.....esp for truth
Thanks ......Bro Kel
Interesting about the Sons of God ... Even the angels in the begining of Job chapter 1 ... It says the Sons of God were in Yahs presence along with Gadreal(the one fallen angel who tempted eve)or Satan Were stated as being Sons of God as well .
Jesus is god according to Christians.
Buddha is god according to Buddhists.
Krisna is god according to Hindus.
Fortunately all those human created gods points us to the One True GOD- that is the uncreated CREATOR of the heavens and earth.
its the devil maing more religions to deceive more people, because the devil would rather make more religions because people are born into them rather than changing the truth just saying :shrug:
Not all christians beleive in jesus as god, as i dont. Jesus is the son of god and god is the only living god of all creation.
I think my 2nd anti trinity shoe just dropped!!! Step 1. Oneness Step 2. UNITARIANISM!👞😮😖
then to be born again of the spirit must we die and then be born again at the resurrection,.?
Bodily yes. For now we are born again to new life when we die to the flesh concerning what we do and walk according to the Spirit.
When Jesus said I am, they got mad because they put Abraham above god
Here are two accounts in scripture that prove that Jesus is not the Angel of the Lord.
How can Jesus be in two places at the same time, Jesus spirit as a baby or Man is not omnipresent.
To be taxed with Mary that was given him to wife, which was with child. And Joseph also went up from Galilee out of a city called Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem (because he was of the house and lineage of David,) ¶ And so it was, that while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her first begotten son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a cratch, because there was no room for them in the inn. ¶ And there were in the same country shepherds, abiding in the field, and keeping watch by night over their flock. And lo, the Angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone about them, and they were sore afraid. Then the Angel said unto them, Be not afraid: for behold, I bring you glad tidings of great joy, that shall be to all the people, That is, that unto you is born this day in the city of David, a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign to you, Ye shall find the babe swaddled, and laid in a cratch. And straightway there was with the Angel a multitude of heavenly soldiers, praising God, and saying, Glory be to God in the high heavens, and peace in earth, and toward men good will. And it came to pass when the Angels were gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said one to another, Let us go then unto Bethlehem, and see this thing that is come to pass, which the Lord hath showed unto us.
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Then Joseph her husband being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was thus, When as his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the holy Ghost. But while he thought these things, behold, the Angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, the son of David, fear not to take Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her, is of the holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. And all this was done that it might be fulfilled, which is spoken of the Lord by the Prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which is by interpretation, God with us. ¶ Then Joseph being raised from sleep, did as the Angel of the Lord had enjoined him, and took his wife. But he knew her not, till she had brought forth her first born son, and he called his name JESUS.
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At 29:00 you discuss Jesus saying ego eimi means he said he was God. Jesus is saying before Moses was he was. So before Moses was Jesus was... My question is how do you believe Jesus could "be" prior to Moses?
Also The bible says Jesus was in the form of God. What does that mean?
The prophesy of the messiah begins in the garden of eden Genesis “3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
Jesus said before Abraham I am he. The messiah. The prophesy. The spoken word.
Philippians 2:6-8 talks about how Jesus, having been given all authority by God, did not consider himself an equal to God. He humbled himself and took his place as a servant to God.
What about the Spirit of Christ in the Prophets, Prophesying the coming of Christ way before Jesus Christ
was born in Mary's Womb? 1 Peter 1:10-12
I'm with you on the false trinitarian Veiw, but we also have problems with Unitarian Doctrine. There seems to be a
pre- existing Spirit of Christ Prophesying through the Prophets of Jesus "Messiah's" Coming?
Not a problem. First of all, the Spirit of Christ in Trinitarianism IS NOT Christ but someone else, the 3rd person of the Trinity. Read carefully what it says in context. The Spirit of Christ is referring to the Holy Spirit in which the prophets prophesied about the coming Christ.
10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, 11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of CHRIST in them was pointing when IT witnessed the sufferings of CHRIST and the glories that would follow.
Do you have a Soul, Spirit & Word? That is Trinity. God has these.
Are you a three person being?
@@TheTrinityDelusionYes. I have a Soul, Spirit & Word. But my Soul is not my Spirit, Spirit is not the Word, and so on. Like this God is of Soul, Spirit & Word. Soul is referred to as the Father, Spirit is the Comforter, Word is the Saviour. One God.
hebrew word 'paniym means face and is also plural.. we have one face..
Yes, that's how language works lol.
Languages are messy
Trinity is idolatry.
no brainer
At 39:50...What did Jesus mean when He said "Destroy this temple, in 3 days I will raise it up"? (John 2:19)
Who raised Jesus up?
Whose temple was he?
"The words I say to you I do not speak from myself but the Father abiding in me does the works." John 14:10.
@@TheTrinityDelusion It seems to me He was oftten speaking for himself and Father God. As if both separate and one.
@@RB-jl8sm He was the Father's word, the prophet God raised up promising, "I will put MY words in his mouth."
@@TheTrinityDelusion Why didnt you include John 14:9? Because it weakened your point in John 14:10?
@@RB-jl8sm John 14:9 strengthens my point. Jesus explains how others had seen the Father by the words he spoke and the works he did.
The better explanation is when Jesus said I am, he was saying before Abraham was, I existed. Because I am in hebrew also means I exist and I existed. And if go by the context of what was being said then we know that is what Jesus meant because the Jews said "you arent even 50 years old."
Did you notice that Jesus never even said he had seen Abraham? The Jews twisted around what he had said.
@@TheTrinityDelusion All I am saying is trinitarians try to use that verse for their argument by saying Jesus said he was the great "I AM" when in reality Jesus was jus saying before Abraham was, I existed. Jesus begotten of God in eternity past before all creation, even before the angels.
Why did they kill Jesus? In your opinion.
The Angels bow down to Adam too.
Dear brother Kel ... am truly enJOYing your scholarly commentary on the Trinitarian delusion. I am curious IF you've ever addressed the FALSE doctrine of the ONENESS movement that adheres to the belief that "Jesus IS the Father in the flesh"?? They believe that Jesus has always existed WITH Yahweh God the Father, and that he was "incarnated" versus "created" in Mary's womb.
Would it be possible for you to address some of these difficult passages such as John 17:5, John 8:58, John 10:30, 1 John 5:20, Colossians 1:16, ...
ThanX you in advance for this consideration. May Yahweh God bless, keep, protect, and provide for you!!
Elohim is plural for gods not persons.
Brother Kel, I would like to know your understanding of Eph 4:4&5
Paul is simply talking about the unity of the church. One body, one Spirit, one hope, one faith, one Lord (Jesus), one God (the Father).
I give you the understanding God gave me about this :
Only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6.
Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6.
A SPIRIT *over all* ☝️: Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT*
*Through all*🙏 : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body* consisting mainly in water, The rock in the OT: Exodus 17 v 1 To 7
*In all* 👈: Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11
1 john 5 v 6
6 This is *the one* who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ. *He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth* .
A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST
Trinity is basically Dagon worship imported by the apostate catholic church ===) 🚮
Or Isaiah 44:6, phlip 2:6. Was jesus wrong to believe that he was equal (or the same as) GOD? He is equal with GOD! He willingly subordinated himself to GOD that we know as the father!
@@jamesbayly5785 There are dozens (hundreds?) of verses where Jesus makes himself less than God the Father. So, he was not co-equal. He was not omniscient. And he was not omnipotent. He proclaimed that there were some things only God could do or could know. And he only did the things he had seen God do, following His commands.
Sir,
I am non trinitarian, but you mentioned the stoning of Stephen, though perhaps I am misunderstanding you, as though there was no accusation of blasphemy. Yet these murdering men did trump up and falsify charges of blasphemy.
Acts 6:11 - 14:
Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.
And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council,
And set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the law:
For we have heard him say, that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change the customs which Moses delivered us.
Now this does not provide any sort of evidence in favour of the trinitarians. It just ought to be mentioned that they tried to stone Stephen on the basis of blasphemy. Like I said, perhaps I misunderstood you, but I thought you using Stephen as an example of them stoning someone without blasphemy being the basis.
Thank you for your tremendous wok in this field. This is one of the greatest lies that the Evil One ever propagated in Christianity.
The believer becomes the sons and daughters of God, spiritually by adoption via baptism but The Messiah is "the Only Begotten Son" physically; hence the strong bond and physical resemblance. Thereby, anyone who has seen the Son has seen the Father. The Father's name is in the Son. Yahuah(The Father) and Yahshua(The Son).
All genuine believers are begotten sons of God. Read your Bible again until it sinks in.
I love the 1st point. People LOVE translations but know only selective things about the nuances of the language. Now you have copy cat Israelites running around saying elohim is proof that God is both male and female!
Point #2 i totally agree aa well. They wanns transliterate echad into trinity....that's laughable.
Many trinitarians prefer the word godhead. Godhead and trinity are words which can have more than one numerical value. (eg 1 sheep or 2 sheep)Three Gods in one therefore one God.
Trinitarians, and oneness especially, also see the word "Godhead" and suppose it means things which this archaic word does not.
Very confused the Trinitarians.
Before the creation of mankind and angelic, was God silent because nobody was around to talk to?
John 1:18 says that Jesus is the only-begotten one, no?
A person is an "only begotten" only as long as other children are not yet born/begotten. Every time the Bible uses the term "only begotten" of Jesus, it is referring to Jesus before he died and rose from the dead. No one else was begotten of God except Jesus before he rose from the dead and the Spirit was given. But now there are now many begotten sons of God, and Jesus is the firstborn of many brothers.
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John 1:18 is referring to the one who _is_ in the bosom of the Father as "monogenes". It's not referring to Jesus before he died and rose from the dead; it's referring to him as he is now.
@@legron121 Yeah it is. John is talking about the Father being made known through the only begotten. That's what the whole ministry is Jesus is about in John's Gospel.
I really liked this..
Tertullian in Against Praxeas.
For before all things God was alone- being in Himself and for Himself universe, and space, and all things. Moreover, He was alone, because there was nothing external to Him but Himself. Yet even not then was He alone; for He had with Him that which He possessed in Himself, that is to say, His own Reason. For God is rational, and Reason was first in Him; and so all things were from Himself. This Reason is His own Thought (or Consciousness) which the Greeks call LOGOS by which term we also designate Word or Discourse and therefore it is now usual with our people, owing to the mere simple interpretation of the term, to say that the Word was in the beginning with God; although it would be more suitable to regard Reason as the more ancient; because God had not Word from the beginning, but He had Reason even before the beginning; because also Word itself consists of Reason, which it thus proves to have been the prior existence as being its own substance. Not that this distinction is of any practical moment. For although God had not yet sent out His Word, He still had Him within Himself, both in company with and included within His very Reason, as He silently planned and arranged within Himself everything which He was afterwards about to utter through His Word. Now, while He was thus planning and arranging with His own Reason, He was actually causing that to become Word which He was dealing with in the way of Word or Discourse. And that you may the more readily understand this, consider first of all, from your own self, who are made “in the image and likeness of God,” Genesis 1:26 for what purpose it is that you also possess reason in yourself, who are a rational creature, as being not only made by a rational Artificer, but actually animated out of His substance. Observe, then, that when you are silently conversing with yourself, this very process is carried on within you by your reason, which meets you with a word at every movement of your thought, at every impulse of your conception. Whatever you think, there is a word; whatever you conceive, there is reason. You must needs speak it in your mind; and while you are speaking, you admit speech as an interlocutor with you, involved in which there is this very reason, whereby, while in thought you are holding converse with your word, you are (by reciprocal action) producing thought by means of that converse with your word. Thus, in a certain sense, the word is a second person within you, through which in thinking you utter speech, and through which also, (by reciprocity of process,) in uttering speech you generate thought. The word is itself a different thing from yourself. Now how much more fully is all this transacted in God, whose image and likeness even you are regarded as being, inasmuch as He has reason within Himself even while He is silent, and involved in that Reason His Word! I may therefore without rashness first lay this down (as a fixed principle) that even then before the creation of the universe God was not alone, since He had within Himself both Reason, and, inherent in Reason, His Word, which He made second to Himself by agitating it within Himself. (5).
It is my belief that John intended to say, "and the Word was qualitatively God the Father" at John 1:1c where the Word in question is the Word which the Father spoke to create all things and was inherent within him in such a way that his own Word WAS Him. God is one and in the beginning there were not two things: (1) God, and (2) God's Word. There was only one thing: God and his Word was inherent within him. In John 1:1b, John indicates the Word was WITH God because he knows we know that he knows that he will be associating the Word with Jesus and he wants to make sure we understand what Word he has in mind in verse 14, that same Word which was with God in the begining. But lest we get the mistaken notion two things existed in the beginning he further qualifies himself. And indeed, we do find that Jesus qualitatively expresses the charcter of who and what the Father is, he being the Father's Word. God is Light; His Word is Light. God is Truth; His Word is Truth. God is Life; His Word is Life. God is Love; His Word is Love. Hence, John's intention is to remind us that the Word which was inherent within the Father, that went out on the breath of His mouth, and did become flesh, will express these characteristics, that is, the essence of these things, the Father's Word always being in the bosom of the Father, just as Love poured out does not empty the giver of Love. John's ultimate intention is this: God is Love and His Word of Truth to us is the Light and Life of His Love and that Word became embodied in flesh, the man Jesus.
God is not a coward He sent His Son Jesus ( God incarnate) to the cross.
“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:10 KJV Only God Can! God the Son! God the Father in all His splendor majesty and glory would kill us in a blink of an eye.
Hi Kel, someone refuted your point about Jesus not being the only begotten son 3 days ago. ( By Request- A Response to The Trinity Delusion by Islam critiqued ). He makes the point that Abraham had more than one son yet Isaac is called the only begotten, in other words special or unique. He could have a point but he then says his uniqueness is connected with him existing in eternity. Do you not think that Jesus when called the son of God in Luke 1 has a different sonship than us in the sense that his father is God whereas our fathers are all human. In Acts 9 v 20 Paul preaches in the synagogue that Christ is the son of God at a time that some had the right to call themselves sons of God ie after the resurrection
I don't even argue that Jesus is an only begotten son of God. I have videos stating otherwise. Nobody is denying Jesus was unique. But he is no longer God's only begotten child. Jesus was unique in many ways. His earthly humanity was unique in the sense his father was God and our natural human birth involved a human father. However, believers die to that life and are begotten again, a second time, this time by God. I'm not sure why everyone always forgets this. In this respect, believers are in the same condition Jesus was between his baptism and his death. That's why they are to pick up their cross as he did. Concerning Paul, see Romans 8:14. The Scriptures are quite plainly clear that believers are those who are begotten children of God. John's writings contain ample statements to this effect. No believer is an only begotten son nor is there any argument that believers are a monogenes son as Christ was. Christ was an only begotten son but now no longer is. Now he is the firstborn of many brothers. And again he is unique in that he is the only one resurrected from the dead to new life - Acts 13:33. From our perspective, he will always be unique in some respect. But no one can reasonably deny that God begets many children. The Bible says so many times. Jesus is the firstborn of them all.
So who do you say Jesus is?
Only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6.
Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6.
A SPIRIT *over all* ☝️: Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT*
*Through all*🙏 : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body* consisting mainly in water, The rock in the OT: Exodus 17 v 1 To 7
*In all* 👈: Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11
1 john 5 v 6
6 This is *the one* who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ. *He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth* .
A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST
Trinity is basically Dagon worship imported by the apostate catholic church ===) 🚮
@Lights Life
Can you mention a man that the face shines as bright as the sun like Jesus had during the transfiguration?
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Yes. It means Jesus was revealing himself as God.
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Three different distinctions termed theologically as persons - the Father, His Word and His Spirit coexisting eternally as one being or one entity we call God. The Father, His Word and His Spirit are not three entities.
Trinitarians believe God is made of 3 distinct _persons_ -- Father, Son, & Spirit. They say the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God. But the Father is NOT the Son, the Son is NOT the Spirit, and the Spirit is NOT the Father. These 3 _persons_ function as a single deity called the Godhead (or God). Each _person_ has an independent mind. As such, each _person_ has independent speech. God the Son spoke to his disciples. God the Father spoke to Moses. God the Spirit never spoke to anyone, as far as I know from reading the NT, but one can assume the Spirit also has the ability to speak since each _person_ is co-equal to the other _persons_ of the deity. So of each _person_ can think freely and speak freely, then answer me this...
If you heard all 3 _persons_ speak at the exact same time, would you hear 1 voice, or 3 distinct voices? If the Trinitarian is honest, the answer is they would hear 3 different voices coming from 3 distinct _persons._ But IF the Godhead (God) spoke, would you hear 1 voice or 3 voices? If you said 3, you're dishonest. Everyone can surmise IF the Godhead spoke, you'd hear one voice. IF you somehow heard 3 separate voices, then the Trinity claiming to be one God is 100% false. However, IF the Godhead spoke, and you heard a single distinct voice, then the Trinity is still false because you now have a 4th _person_ representing the combined 3 _persons_ combined. So if there's a 4th entity representing the 3 _persons_ combined, then the Trinity should actually be Quadrinity, right? Think about it... each _person_ has independent thought and speech, so the combined deity is a 4th entity, which disproves the Trinity 100%.
The Trinity is man-made, completely false, and the work of the devil. You cannot have 3 distinct _persons_ in the Godhead and still believe in monotheism. Trinitarian Christianity is 100% polytheism, and therefore against everything the Bible teaches about ONE true God.
In the Beginning was the Word, and The Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
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All that means is that God's decree is not something you can separate from Him. God's words (commands) are concrete and final. That verse doesn't mean Jesus is God. That verse means God's words belong to Him and Him alone. Throughout history God has sent prophets and messengers to relay God's commands to the people. Jesus was a mighty messenger of God Almighty, and he did everything God commanded him to do. Jesus even said he can do NOTHING on his own, everything he does is by God's commands. Jesus also said God sent him. Jesus prayed to God. Jesus told you he would ascend to his God, your God...the same God that he worshipped is also the same God you're commanded to worship. When Jesus bowed down and worshipped God in the Garden of Gethsemane, was he praying to himself? Of course he wasn't, so why do you pray in Jesus's name when Jesus never told you to do that?
@@thewallcometh1444 Wow the mental gymnastics you have to go through to reinterpret John 1:1 is amazing.
Because John 1:14 goes on to state:
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
It wasn't talking about some abstract teaching about God's words being final and his commands being concrete, it was talking about the living word Christ Jesus who is Lord and God over all.
And secondly there is no problem with God the Son praying or talking to God the Father.
When he prayed he showed His dependence upon His Father in His humanity to carry out His Father’s plan of redemption, His praying demonstrated that He ultimately submitted to His Father’s will.
God the Son is doing nothing wrong when he submits to the Father although they are of the same nature.
It's like an Employee and an Employer although they are both different in what they do and the stations they hold, both of them are the same in their nature ie both are human.
The same can be said of the members of the Trinity. All three members (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are essentially equal; i.e., they are all divine in nature. However, in the grand plan of redemption, they play certain roles, and these roles define authority and subservience. The Father commands the Son, and the Father and the Son command the Holy Spirit.
And when Jesus was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane, he was praying to God the Father. This wasn't an act of worship this was Jesus at his lowest point, literally begging his father to take the cup of suffering away from him. Although in the end he said "Not my will but yours" changing the world forever.
And Jesus does ask us to pray to the Father in his name, John 14:13-14 says:
"And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Now that I sufficiently dismantled your arguments, I'd like to offer you a chance to actually accept Christ as your Lord and Savior by doing what Paul says in Romans 10:9:
"If you declare with your mouth, Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
@@gaiusoctavius5935 I’ll make it easier. What is the word of God? Is it the son? The son said the words he speaks are not his own but the fathers words. Seems to me that the word belongs to the father. Jesus the son was given the words to speak. So…..in what way is Jesus the word? Remember, trinity doctrine states the three cannot be confused with one another. If the word is the fathers word, not the godhead word, the fathers word, that means the word belongs to the father and Jesus cannot be that word because that would make him and the father the same. The father is not the son. The son is not the father. Makes more sense if the word is the fathers and it was put into the son by the father to be spoken. Which is what the Bible says happens. Jesus is not God. He is the temple in which god, the Father, dwells. Temples are not God. When we are born again, God comes to dwell in us as well. We become temples for God. We do not become God.
@@gaiusoctavius5935 you realize Jesus enters the story at John 1:14 right? No mental gymnastics.
If you don’t believe me, just reference what Jesus himself said about the word. You can choose to believe Jesus or some fourth century galaxy brain men with an agenda. Your choice.
Mono-genes means one of a kind, or unique son of God, to indicate uniqueness. The word “son” already implies begotten which is one reason to know genes (kind) - not genao (generated) - 😂is intended. 19:42
On God with 3 pieces, you used circular logic. Confusing. Cluster of grapes, God Spirit and Jesus???
Can't make any sense out of your post.
I think the only issue I even have is that you dont believe Jesus is God. But the more I think about the lies of trinity and protestantism I realize one of their creeds deals with the deity of Christ ruling in favor of him being God. That alone is the only thing that forces me to stop and study it out. Is Jesus God now post glorification?
Just a thought: When are Christians begotten of God? Is it at the confession of the mouth, or is it at the baptism? Is this begetting simultaneous with the imparting of the Holy Spirit? If at the baptism, then it would make sense for Jesus too, like David, I would assume. The Kings were anointed, or masach and made mashiach, at their anointing. When did God make Jesus the Messiah? -- at his baptism, his birth, or resurrection? This would make sense, at the Baptism, if this was the same time he was begotten -- Just like David. Obviously this presupposes that the virgin birth -- conception -- was a later addition.
Jesus was the designated Anointed One/Messiah. But you can't do your Messiah-ing until you are anointed which occurred when he received the Spirit at the Jordan. The Spirit gives life. When we receive the Spirit of God we enter into a new life.
When they come (Jesuits) to kill you it make it hard to stay in the way , when you come out of trinity religion there no one to help in the pain as you must know , but did they (Jesuits) go out of there way to kill you ? IT all end in Rev 22:16 when it come to I AM .
Is Kel a JW ? He seems like a fellow that doesn't like his steak medium rare ?
No JW here. Former Trinitarian.
Might as well be JW, this guy is not following sound doctrine either, but doctrines of demons. He is a cult leader.
Slant Six, You seem to be quite the liar.
Then you might as well call Christ a cult leader as well, he dared to preach truth to blind men.
Trinity Delusion, you say your not a JW, but you seem to believe the Godhead just like them. Big God (Jehovah) and little god (Jesus)
They don't care JoHn 1:1 JeSuS iS GoD
John 1.1 doesn't say Jesus is GOD, but more accurately, that the word was GOD.
But many people today don't care about such things, as they are so preoccupied in defending their man-made gods and doctrine that they cannot be bothered with the written truth.
The (Trinitarians) shall die in their sins.
The (Trinity) is not only a vain, idle, perverse, corrupt, word of confusion and the word is not only not found in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures, but the doctrine of the (Trinity) is also a lie, a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy.
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
2Peters 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate, the Almighty and he is known by many names. God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit and when he was manifested in the flesh he was known as the Son of God and the Son of man.
The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3:5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1:
1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
Jesus is the Father, the everlasting Father, the Almighty:
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Are you not in mass, since promote yourself not the God revelead in the Entire Bible.
Huh?
Jesus was begotten in eternity
That is correct
Trinity is not a Myth. Read below: You don’t understand the Trinity.
The Trinity is a descriptive word that teaches the Nature of the One True God, Yahweh.
Again the Trinity is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old Testament and New Testament about the nature of The One True God, Yahweh, who function through three distinct extension or person who a parts of Himself; The One God Yahweh is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are not three other gods; The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is who the One God, Yahweh is. What the Trinity described is in the Old Testament and The New Testament.
📖 Read: Philippians 2:5-9 - Jesus is God but not the Father.
Because Jesus is God; He is the Word.
Because Jesus who is God emptied Himself of His Divine Power to become man; Jesus prayed to the Father. If Jesus had not separated from the Father, He would not be praying to The Father, because The Father, The Son and Spirit is who the One God Yahweh is.
📖 Read: Hebrew 1:5-12 - Jesus is not an Angel; and God teaches us Jesus is God.
📖 Read: Isaiah 53 - The Prophesy of who Jesus is.
📖 Read: John 14:26, God sends the Spirit, the Spirit is God but is also distinct from God.
📖 Read: Revelation 1-8 - God is Alpha and Omega.
📖 Read: Revelation 22:13 - Jesus say He is Alpha and Omega.
For Facts, Evidence and Truth on the Trinity research:
1. A Muslim through evidence accepted the Trinity, Nabeel Qureshi.
2. An Atheist through evidence accepted the Trinity, J. W. Wallace.
3. John Lennox
4. Frank Turek
"Baptize them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." The mentioned "Father"(1) is the almighty God. He only dwells in a distant past "the world has not known you" (He existed before the birth of mankind), therefore "no one ever saw God". At that time He was the "omnipotent God", not a spirit. This means that now only the (2) Holy Spirit and (3) Son are present, no "third divine Person" exists. The Holy Spirit is the "Father in the form of a spirit" (see John "God is a spirit", but - since the Father is God - that verse also means "the Father is a spirit"). In fact the omnipotent God is not confined in that distant past and is able to be here in our present time, however, just in the form of a spirit. Jesus thus has the "Father who is a spirit" and calls Him sometimes "Father", sometimes "Spirit" (Holy Spirit), this is why confusion arises. But just a "God's Duality" is here, they are just TWO “I am not alone because the Father is with me.” Sometimes people are "filled with the Spirit", this means that God - who is a spirit - is actively inside those people, to be in an intense relationship to them.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
YESHUA/JESUS SAID THAT HE IS THE "LIVING GOD" 3 TIMES
John 18:1-10
Yeshua said these things and went forth with his disciples to the crossing of the torrent of Qedrown; The place was a garden, where he and his disciples entered. 2But Yehuda the traitor had also known that place, because Yeshua had met there many times with his disciples. 3Therefore Yehuda led a company* also from the presence of the Chief Priests and the Pharisees. He led the guards and came there with torches and lamps and weapons. 4But Yeshua, because he knew all these things had come upon him, went out and said to them, "Whom are you seeking?" 5They were saying to him, "Yeshua the Nazarene." Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD." But Yehuda the traitor was also standing with them. 6And when Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", they went backward and fell to the ground. 7Yeshua said again, "Whom are you seeking?" But they said, "Yeshua the Nazarene." 8Yeshua said to them, "I have told you that "I AM" THE LIVING GOD, and if you are seeking me, let these men go", 9So that the saying might be fulfilled: "Of Those whom you have given me, I have not lost one." * 10But Shimeon Kaypha had a sword on him and he drew it and struck the servant of The High Priest and took off his right ear, and the name of the servant was Malka.
verse 6
6And when Yeshua said to them, "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", they went backward and fell to the ground...
WHEN JESUS SAID "I AM" THE LIVING GOD", THE SOLDIERS FELL BACKWARD TO THE GROUND.. JESUS SAID HIS NAME AS "I AM" (EHYEH) IN EXODUS 3 AS THE ALMIGHTY GOD THAT APPEARED TO ABRAHAM IN GENESIS 17 AND CHANGE HIS NAME FROM ABRAM TO ABRAHAM AND HIS WIFE SARAI TO SARAH AND WALK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ABRAHAM IN GENESIS 18.. JESUS ALSO CHANGE THE NAME OF JACOB TO ISRAEL AND SAUL TO PAUL.
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God is one not three. If there were three Gods then which one would take the throne? There would just be chaos everywhere and there wouldn’t be any order in the universe. The reason why some people believe this is because this is the result of Jesus Christ’s original message becoming corrupt over time. And even if it does talk about the trinity in the Bible, this doesn’t matter because there are over 200 different versions of the Bible and it is not in its original form. The final prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to clear up these misconceptions and to re-establish the same pure message that all of the other prophets and messengers in the past have preached. He was sent with the last revelation until the day of judgement which is the Quran. This book is the criterion over all religion and it is a historical fact that not a single letter has changed ever since revelation. And there is nowhere in here that says God is three. May God guide you all to the straight path :)
Allow me to share Facts:
✝️ The Trinity describes what is taught in the Old Testament and New Testament:
Read it: Philippians 2:5-9
Hebrews 1:5-7
John 14:2
🚨Trinitarian believe in One God, Yahweh.
🚨 The word “Trinity” is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old and New Testament. Tertullian, an early Christian theologian from Carthage, is known to be the first to use the word “Trinity” to describe the Bible over a 100 years before the Council of Nicaea.
📖 Read the verses below:
- Phil 2:5-9, teach Jesus is a part of the One God who is distinct God the Father.
- Hebrew 1:5-12, teaches Jesus is not an Angel; and, God the Father tells us the Son is God.
- John 14:26, The Spirit is God but is also distinct from God. That’s why the Father can send Him.
- Revelations 22:13, Jesus is eternal, Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. This is Fact per Jesus.
✝️ The Trinity believes only in the One God Yahweh, who within is nature is Father, Son, and Spirit. Father, Son and Spirit together is who the One and Only God, Yahweh is.
No Myth; Biblical Facts
I would call Trump his messenger if he is delivering the message.
hold on--Messiah would not have addressed Jews in Greek Kel
What are you referring to specifically?
I don't think Jesus had to be God not to sin... but he was because the bible said that all have sinned and fall short. God is the only one sinless or perfect and he was more than human. He also did make a spiritual sacrifice. Jesus was a man and he was God. The bread of God is the GOSPEL.
Kel you stated that God does not have blood being a spirit, but God being a man tentatively would. Have you addressed
Acts 2:28 which states that God in fact has blood?
Acts 2:28
For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Not so. God made the first man and woman sinless. They had the ability to pass satans test. Adam and Eve were created sinless and lived for some time sinless proving that man can be sinless. Only three have ever been that wasn’t born into sin. Adam, Eve and Jesus. Adam and Eve were tempted and failed. Jesus was tempted and resisted temptation proving that man was not a failed creation. You see? Jesus was a man the same as Adam. He had to be. Part of the redemption is in proving that man is capable of being as God intended. Jesus could have failed his test. Had he failed, he would have suffered the same fate as Adam, damning all of us in the process. This is why Jesus was rewarded so greatly by God. This is why God gave him all authority. If Jesus had failed, Satan would have been proven right which means God would have been wrong. Think about that. God cannot be wrong. There was much more at stake than just our salvation.
The moment Jesus life passed away from him on the cross Satan lost his wager with God. Jesus said it is finished. What do you think Satan was trying to do when he came down to Eve in the garden? He knew he couldn’t defeat God. God is almighty. What was his intention? He wanted to prove God fallible. If he could prove that man was a failed creation, he could show God to be wrong. When Jesus life passed from him, it proved Gods creation, man, was not a failed creation.
Furthermore, why do you think God didn’t just destroy Satan and be done with it? God is almighty. He could destroy Satan at any time. The reason is because Satan challenged Gods infallible nature. God couldn’t just do away with Satan without first proving he is indeed infallible. Jesus couldn’t be God because that would defeat the purpose. People always forget about Satan and why we need redemption in the first place. The prophesy of the messiah happened in the garden of Eden.
Genesis “3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.”
This is where it all began.
@@driller7714 3yrs ago I posted that and have since considered the creation being perfect prior to the fall. But it could be argued Christ came post fall but of course we know he was slain at the foundation so he supersedes time. Christ is God.
@@driller7714 I think God decreed what he decreed and followed his order thus he didn't just backspace delete.
This is absurd, let me get this straight the entire Bible is just geared toward a man. A dead man runs the Church. A dead man forgives sins. 66 books are dedicated toward a man. Truth is Jesus Christ is Lord and God
Your post is rooted in presumptive ignorance. The entire Bible is "geared" toward God and what He did through a man whom He sent. A man risen and glorified by God doesn't only "run the Church" but had all things in creation subjected to him by God. See Hebrews 2:5-8. And have a look at Matthew 9:8 while you are at it. In this account, Jesus was proving the Pharisees were wrong. So whose side are you on?
The Trinity Delusion here is the deal you made the either or fallacy. Jesus is truly man and truly God at the same time. Moses wrote all about Jesus John 5 “I do not receive honor from men. But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you. I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you-Moses, in whom you trust. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” Jesus was also in the Old Testament as the angel of the Lord and Abraham kneeled down before the trinity Genesis 18 Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree. And I will bring a morsel of bread, that you may refresh your hearts. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.”
They said, “Do as you have said.” So will you change your channel to the Unitarian delusion or will you continue your trip to Hell with Unitarianism. You saw the truth it’s whether or not you recognize it
@@pwx13 Wrong again. The following videos from my channel demonstrate why:
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The Trinity Delusion wow another hour worth of heresy to claw through, you don’t repent, you just make another video. Jesus does love you even though you reject him. Right now if you die everything in your life will be worthless and your afterlife will be Hell. Colossians 1 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. Jesus was there before anything existed. To try to take that away from Jesus is prideful and idolatry, your beliefs are like the Muslims and the Catholics. You have new world order beliefs.
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Brother Kel, I think Trinitarians would love the song imagine by John Lennon?
Here's the rebuttal by islam critiqued
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All of this was debunked so hard by Islam Critiqued a year ago (and basic understanding of the language and context), the fact that it is still on here just spills your malicious intent.
Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.-
And? Did you think you found a secret Bible passage or something?
And how does this prove Jesus is God? The first part clearly proves otherwise because if you're an image of something or someone You're not literally that thing or person. If i hold up an image of my wife, that image represents my wife perfectly, but it is not my wife.
Because Jesus responds to the Jews in the book of John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” 59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
The Jews knew the name "I Am" very well.
Oh why didn't they know it at John 8:24?
The trinity is built-up on a house of cards.
JohnBee, That is exactly what it is, a house of cards.
Your lack of knowledge on this issue would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
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@@TheTrinityDelusion Really? Where did you get your degree? have you been keeping up with OT scholarship? Let me help you..
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elohim is translated as gods in the first of the ten commandments Exodus 20:3---Exodus 20:2 the LORD is Israel's Elohim in that he brought Israel out of Egypt He was the Elohim Gods superior to Egypt's elohim gods echad is one used for many-in-one day and night in Genesis 1:5 for one (first) day, one flesh for man and wife Genesis 2:23 flesh means group? da means group? you are presupposed without fact completed
I suggest you make it clear to all what you actually believe. Instead you seem confused, extremely repetitive, and angry. rolling your eyes a lot isn't doing you many favours either.
You're waisting your time man