John's Logos/Word: What it is & how it became flesh
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The Word/Logos of John's Gospel. "MY FOOD is to do the will of Him who sent me and finish His work." John 4:34. Jesus was a prophet. As as a prophet he received the word of God the same way as every other prophet had received the word of God. The word of God is the bread of God (see Matthew 4:4) and this word was Jesus' food, his bread. John 4:34; see 6:57; 12:49-50. He ate this bread by carrying out the Father's word, doing the will of the Father, keeping his word. This is how it was his food, his bread (John 4:34). When we eat ordinary bread it becomes us. Having eaten the bread of God, the word of God, this bread became him, flesh. Jesus was the fleshly embodiment of the word of God because this flesh kept God's word, he ate God's bread.
God expresses Himself by His word and this time He expressed His love for us. His word became Jesus, the flesh Jesus, and that dead flesh hanging on the cross was the word of God, the Father's love for us. The Father Himself expressed his love for us by means of the fleshly embodiment of His word, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus expressed his love for us by obeying the word of God to go to the cross and keep the Father's word. It was a Father and son project of love for us, God Almighty and his human son.
Hebrew noun bsr - flesh
Hebrew verb bsr - to proclaim the good news
The good news the Father proclaimed to us was the fleshly man Jesus Christ who embodied the Father's word. God is love and His word to us was His love. That dead flesh hanging on the cross was the word of God, the Father's love.
The word of God is the bread of God. This bread, this word, was Jesus' food. He ate this bread by doing the will of God, by carrying out His word. "My food is to do the will of Him who sent me and finish His work" (John 4:34). This is the bread the Father gives, the bread which descends out of heaven and gives life to the world (Jn 6:32-33). As a prophet, Jesus received the word of God just like every other prophet received the word of God in the Old Testament - by the Holy Spirit which came upon him at the Jordan, the Spirit which DESCENDED out of heaven. This is the bread the Father gives, the bread which DESCENDED out of heaven, the bread of life which is the word of God (Jn 6:32-33). Because this was his food, Jesus consumed this bread by doing the will of God, carrying out the word of God. When we eat bread, it becomes us, our flesh. When Jesus ate the bread of life which the Father gives, the word of God, the word became flesh just as everyday bread becomes our flesh when we consume it. This is how the word became flesh and this is also the reason Jesus said you must eat his flesh to have life. Having eaten this bread, the word of God, this bread became his flesh and his flesh became the fleshly embodiment of the word of God having fulfilled that word by doing it. Now that the word had become flesh, his flesh was embodiment of the word of God which he says we must eat to have life. And we eat his flesh just like he consumed the bread of God. We receive the Spirit of Christ when we are born again and we must be conformed to the image of God's human son and walk as he walked suffering as he suffered. The word of God which Jesus received had become his flesh since he consumed it by doing it. Now his flesh is that word and we consume this word, his flesh, by becoming one body with him, the body of Christ, and we do this by following in his footsteps walking as he walked, taking up our cross and willingly suffer as he suffered.
This is not what Jesus teaches in the gospel, and also what the Apostles teaches in scriptures.
Proof?
The Church Fathers who received the "laying of hands" like Polycarp and St.Ignatius of Antioch, Church Fathers in 100 to 200 AD are teaching the "Holy Eucharist" even St.Paul teaches the "real presence" of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist. As Jesus clealy said at the Last Supper consecrating the "bread and wine" said, "this is my body, this is my blood".
This is not a symbol, if anyone teaches it as symbol, then they are contradicting the very words of Jesus Christ. Read John6:66 the 666 body of believers who rejected the Holy Eucharist.
Proof that the interpretation of any individual is not the Truth. (1Timothy3:15)
One simple question to ask those people who interpret the bible is,
Who give you teaching authority?
Did Jesus or any of the Apostles "lay hands" on you?
@@jongricafort4 "This is my body" does not amount to "Real Presence." And teaching authority comes from the Spirit of God. Our final authority is Jesus Christ who lives in those who love him.
@@TheTrinityDelusion
Yes, but Jesus only promised the guidance of the Spirit of Truth to the Apostles united to Peter.(John14:16-17, John16:12-14 and John15:26) That's why Jesus gave teaching authority to the Apostles I(Luke10:16) and gave only the Keys to Peter to bind and loose any teachings. (Matthew16:19) Why Jesus gave the Keys to Peter only? Because only to Peter did Jesus gave the powerful promised of protection that his faith will not fail. (Luke22:32)
Now the simple question is, did Jesus gave you a Duplicate Keys and did Jesus also promised you that your faith will not fail?
And for you to claim the guidance of the Spirit of Truth, have you ask yourself if you received "laying of hands" from any of the Apostles united to Peter?
If you have not received teaching authority, how can you be sure that your bible interpretation is not in error?
Did
@@jongricafort4 Incorrect lies that Rome fed you. The teaching of the Spirit is available to all believers. If you don't have the Spirit you have no hope of salvation.
@@TheTrinityDelusion
Yes, but the Spirit of Truth is not the one who will give you a "TEACHING AUTHORITY". Jesus is the one who was given by the Abba Father the authority in Heaven & earth.
Proof?
Before the Holy Spirit came down in the Upper Room...Jesus sent the Apostles and 72 disciples to heal and exorcise demons. Remember the Apostles and 72 disciples had not yet received the Holy Spirit when Jesus sent them.
So, if Jesus who gave the Apostles united to Peter the authority, then who give you the "teaching authority"? Definitely the Holy Spirit role is not to give teaching authority but only to empower and guide the believers in Christ to know the Truth to all the people who was given the power to testify and have teaching authority.
Do you have a teaching authority, who lay hands on you?
Clear and simple without any trinitarian contamination and confusion!
Simple enough for fishermen and women and non-scholars and non-theologians to understand.
I also really, really like this non-trinitarian zinger by Jesus:
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word (logos) which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. John 14:24
Just look at that precious jewel of a verse from our Lord Christ!
The logos which you hear is not Jesus's. The logos which you hear is the Father's, ie. the only true God's, per Jesus.
Absolutely beautiful. 😁
Awesome.
There are any number of explanations that are simple enough for fishermen and women and non-scholars and non-theologians to understand. Does their simplicity make them all necessarily correct?
God is spirit, and He entered the man(second Adam) and did His deeds and spoke though His firstborn Son. And this is how He has operated in His chosen ones ever since. Taking up abode in them and they being made into willing and useful tools in His mighty hand. God does God's deeds. Humans can not. That is why the man Jesus said. "I can do nothing of myself". He was just a surrendered tool/servant in his Father and God's hand. And that is what we are supposed to be likewise. God help us to get to that point in our walk with Him, and we will be useful tools in His hands just like Jesus was.
@@johnspartan98 The Word is the LOGOS. The thought of God. His plan. His will. And He spoke and it was realized and implemented down here. As we all were in His mind before we were realized down here. And God shall fulfill all His plan.
The man Jesus is created by God, as all men are.
"Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." (Luke 2:52) And that is the path for all His elect, not just Jesus.
"until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, as we mature to the full measure of the stature of Christ." (Ephesians 4:13
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good word bro
The first thought I had when I saw the title of your upload was " this us a hard word, who can hear it?". No coincidence.
No offense. Honestly no offense. But this is for your viewers. If you watch it at 1.25x speed. It's smooth.
Wow
I believe the prophets of old were inspired to speak the word of God but in the case of our lord Jesus christ, it is completely different altogether in that the word by which God created the world dwelled fully in Jesus's spirit when he was anointed at the river Jordan. This is how the word became flesh.
Thank you for your channel and the well presented content. What about John 17?
"5 And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed."
"24 Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world."
Could you please explain what jesus meant when he prayed saying "glorify me with the same glory I had with you before the world was"?
Google Augustine John 17 5. Although he was a trinitarian, he believed this was glory in prospect, ie the father had it planned before the world.
"Interpretation by imagination." Bwahahaha hahahaha!!! 😂😂😂 I absolutely love it. Keep killin' it Kel!
Joe Fromherz Yes, this guy is gangster, he has no time for foolishness. Love it LOL 😂
@@johnspartan98 So Kel says "And that's why Trinitarians can't make sense of John 6, it doesn't make sense in their world."
John 6:33 41, 50 & 51say "the bread of God is HE who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” The pronoun 'he'
always means a man, boy, or male animal.
But in Kel's world his spurrious interpretation of 'he' is 'the will of God coming down from heaven being bread which Jesus eats and becomes flesh by doing God's will.' Well, the food we eat does not become flesh; it's purpose is to nourish.
So Kel believes Jesus is only a prophet man who did not "come (from heaven) in the flesh. Sounds like the enemy of the faith talking.
@@johnspartan98 "He" and "I" means Jesus and Jesus is saying he was sent by the Father from heaven:
the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven (vs.33)., “I am the bread of life (vs.35). For I have come down from heaven vs.38. This is the will of the Father who sent Me vs.39. And this is the will of Him who sent Me vs.40. I am the bread which came down from heaven vs.41 I am the bread of life vs.49 I am the living bread which came down from heaven vs.51
@@johnspartan98 Thank you for your reply. I'm happy to learn piecemeal via questions I have that will help me understand the oneness view. For example, if Jesus did not come down from heaven, what is Jesus meaning by saying:
John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
@@johnspartan98 My question was why does Jesus claim that HE WAS with the Father in glory before the world began?
He spoke with clear meaning but you say it is metaphorical.
So what does he mean then by asking the Father to "glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began."
Rev 5:5 When you start at 5:4 it tell you no man was found worthy , And 5 says one was a man .
I do believe spirit is the word of God and not a ghost. When we do the will of the Father, we have the spirit of God. Spirit is will, belief, direction. The the old commandment is the word which we have heard from the beginning. The beginning of the word was spoken at Mt. Sinai to Israel.
_In Mark __7:13__ and Matthew 15:6 Jesus uses the phrase; _*_“the word of God”_*_ and the phrase; _*_“the commandment of God”_*_ interchangeable._
Mark 7:13 Making *the word of God* of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Matthew 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made *the commandment* of God of none effect by your tradition.
_Thus it appears “the word of God” is “the commandment of God.” Here are some old testament verses in which seem to say the same thing:_
Numbers 15:31 Because he hath despised *the word of the LORD,* and hath broken *his commandment,* that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
Psalms 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do *his commandments,* hearkening unto the voice of *his word.*
Proverbs 2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive *my words,* and hide *my commandments* with thee;
_In the above scriptures; the word[s] of God and the commandment[s] of God are one and the same._
John 1:14 And *the Word was made flesh,* and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
_Per John __1:14__, Jesus is God's word become flesh._
_The following is a scripture study that Jesus is the Word._
John 7:16 *Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.*
_When Jesus spoke those words, he would have known (and still knows) that God's doctrine had long been established within the old testament scriptures._
_Within the same book of John, seven chapters later, Jesus says:_
John 14:6 *Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.*
_When Jesus spoke the words; "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." Jesus would have known (and still knows) that God's doctrine of the way and the truth was already established in the old testament._
*The Way* is *the law* and *the commandments:*
Psalms 119:32 I will run *the way* of *thy commandments,* when thou shalt enlarge my heart.
Psalms 119:1 [...] Blessed are the undefiled *in the way,* who walk *in the law* of the LORD.
Malachi 2:8 But ye are departed out of *the way;* ye have caused many to stumble at *the law;* ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.
*The Truth* is *the law* and *the commandments:*
Psalms 119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all *thy commandments are truth.*
Psalms 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and *thy law is the truth.*
_Jesus would have also known (and still knows) God's doctrine had already long been established as to how to obtain life._
Proverbs 7:2 *Keep my commandments, and live; and my law* as the apple of thine eye.
Proverbs 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: *keep my commandments, and live.*
_When Jesus said he is the way, the truth, and the life; he would have known (and still knows) the old testament declared the way and the truth to be God's commandments and laws._
_Also Jesus would have also known (and still knows) the way to obtain life is by keeping God's commandments._
_Jesus would have known (and still knows) that he was (and is) saying that he is God's law and God's commandments and that he is eternal life and the only way to the Father._
_Jesus is God's words made flesh._
_Because it is indicated God made his commandments flesh, do (test) the following:_
_Read some of Jesus's sayings about himself and place “the word of God” which is “the ten commandments” (which are the words of the covenant, Exo __34:28__ & Deu __4:13__) into the very place where Jesus says “I” or “me.”_
_(Example: John __12:46__)_
*John **12:46** I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.*
John 12:46 I _(the ten commandments)_ am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
_(Example: John 14:6)_
*John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.*
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I _(the ten commandments)_ am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(Example John 10:14)
*John **10:14** I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.*
John 10:14 I _(the ten commandments)_ am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
_It would appear that God made (his voice) his Word flesh._
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have *I* been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known *me*, Philip? he that hath seen *me* hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?*
John 14:10 Believest thou not that *I am* in the Father, and the Father in *me?* the words that *I* speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in *me*, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe *me* that I am in the Father, and the Father in *me*: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, *I* say unto you, He that believeth on *me*, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
(Further Example: John 14:9-12)
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me _(the ten commandments),_ Philip? he that hath seen me _(the ten commandments)_ hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I _(the ten commandments)_ am in the Father, and the Father in me _(the ten commandments/the words of the covenant)?_ the words that I _(the ten commandments)_ speak unto you I _(the ten commandments)_ speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me _(the ten commandments),_ he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me _(the ten commandments)_ that I am in the Father, and the Father in me _(the ten commandments):_ or else believe me _(the ten commandments)_ for the very works' sake.
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me _(the ten commandments),_ the works that I _(the ten commandments)_ do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
_Question; How can anyone do greater works than Jesus as stated in this apparent riddle in John __14:12__?_
_Using the ten commandments as a light (Psa 119:105 & Pro __6:23__) we can see and understand the riddle in John __14:12__ in the following way:_
*John **14:12** Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.*
_Howbeit this riddle seem contradictory to Jesus' statement in John __13:16__:_
*John **13:16** Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.*
_Question followups; How can anyone do anything greater did Jesus did when Jesus never sinned?_
_Pondering an Answer: Jesus never sinned. And we on the other hand, are sinners. We have to repent because we are sinners._
_Pondering Answers continued: Jesus never had to repent. Jesus never sinned therefore Jesus could never have any sins to repent of. Jesus cannot repent of sins._
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me _(the ten commandments),_ the works that I do shall he do also _(he shall also keep the ten commandments);_ and greater works than these shall he do *_(repenting_*_ of not keeping the ten commandments);_ because I go unto my Father.
_It would appear that “greater works” would mean further or go beyond._
_If this study is correct (using the ten commandments as a light) then what Jesus is saying is that he views repentance of sin as no mere small matter. In John __14:12__ he is saying repentance of sin is a very great thing; even greater (going beyond) what he himself had to do._
_Jesus is God's word made flesh. Further, Jesus is the new covenant in the flesh. Notice in Matthew __26:26__-28._
Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of *the new testament,* which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(Matthew 26:28 “testament” G1242.) = covenant
G1242 διαθήκη diathēkē dee-ath-ay'-kay From G1303; properly a disposition, that is, (specifically) a contract (especially a devisory will): - covenant, testament.
Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of *the new [covenant]* which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Hello Kel, Thanks for this teaching but I'm still confused as to how much of God's spirit was in Jesus giving Him the ability to not sin prior to His baptism with John the Baptist compared to after when He actively started His ministry. Did Jesus receive more of God's spirit at the time He was baptized or was it all the same throughout His earthly life? Does this question even make sense? Thanks for anyone's reply to this.
No, he did not receive "more" of God's Spirit. The reason you won't find anything about Jesus' life before his baptism and what his walk was like is during that time is because it is really irrelevant. Because it is irrelevant, the Gospel writers do not bother to mention it. When Jesus received the word of God at the Jordan, he had to keep it perfectly and never sin otherwise the mission for which He was sent from the Jordan would have been a failure. He didn't fail. Praise his name.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thank you Kel. One more issue I would appreciate your view on is the preexistence of Christ. Do you believe He existed prior to coming to earth in the flesh?
@@caroleevandyk5544 NO, he did not exist as a self conscious person or spirit. This MAN was predestined by God before the "foundation of the world." In that sense, he existed in the mind/heart of God but not as an individual self conscious person.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thanks for this Kel. I have just recently been exposed to this perspective that Christ did not preexist in ages past and although it is novel to me, it does make more sense of scripture in many ways. What is your explanation of the latter part of Hebrews 1:2, where God made the ages/eons "through" Christ? I have read that this is referring to the next 2 eons of the Millennial Kingdom and the New Heavens and New Earth, not the past eons.
@@caroleevandyk5544 Hebrews 1:2 refers to the risen Christ. Read the context carefully. At Ephesians 1:21-23, we are told that God raised Jesus far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every named that is named, not only in this aion but in the aion to come. See Hebrews 2:5.
what is hoot?
why am i the soul person here? Put your trinaties mind set away for a short time and open your spritual minds . Jesus is the christ he is not God jesus him self said there is only one God. Jesus is the saviour he took our sins upon him, he died. God cannot die. Jesus is the second Adam. Adam had free will and he sinned therefore making man in his image. jesus redeemed us to make man in his image. Jesus died so that we believe will live. Jesus was raised from death as all believers will be at his second coming.
no one has neither pro or con to say about what i posted?
Hello brother, so in John 1:1, would you say the son is not even being referenced? That instead of the logos being another person or “god”, the logos is referring to the Father specifically and exclusively?
The logos at John 1:1 is the food Jesus consumed during his ministry, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent me and finish His work." John 4:34. When you consume bread you become the bread and the bread becomes you. John 4:34 is how the word, Jesus' bread, became flesh. The word, Jesus' bread, was fully consumed at John 19:30, "It is finished."
The Trinity Delusion excellent point! I heard that in the video but I guess my question is an aside. The logos, was with theos, was theos... this logos in verse 1, in no way is referencing the son who comes in focus at verse 14 - is that correct? This logos in connection to theos in verse 1, theos is referencing only the Father, not a second logos, or the son, but only the Father - is that correct?
@@GatheringJacob The logos was theos at 1:1c means the same thing as John 1:18. The word Jesus proclaimed was the revelation of the Father, making the Father known to the world. He did this by speaking the Father's words and doing the Father's works. In this way, the word proclaimed was God the Father whom no one has ever seen but the son expressed Him 1:18. God the Father was doing His will through the man Jesus (Acts 2:22). Jesus gave over his body of flesh to the Father so the Fathere could do whatever He wanted with it. This is why Jesus said, "He who has see me has seen the Father."
Well jesus is that logic that understanding made flesh...the word face to face with himself is the logic and understanding of his own person the Father.
I think this is why jesus himself is fully divine because he demonstrated his divinity by his understanding of All things of the Father..I think people are confusing this for omniscience of the son..but he is the divine reasoning of the father in the flesh.
Did he just say when we eat the grocery bed it becomes us??
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I'm new to this walk and I'm not sure if I should stay away from this guy or listen to him more. I was so with him until he said that
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While I can appreciate and understand your explanation and agree that true life is gained through the "eating" of God's word, I would like to give my two cents for what they may be worth.
Doesn't logos mean more than just "word" or "words"? Can it also mean thought, mind, desire, plan, heart etc? If so, then the word becoming flesh could mean not just the fulfillment of God's promises and plan but also the embodiment of his thoughts, mind, heart, desires, etc (" and the word was God") through the words and actions of Jesus. Man has a saying when they want to more fully explain something......." Let's flesh this out". God did this perfectly with Christ.
We have the scriptures which not only contains the words of God but also some of his thoughts, mind, plan, heart, desires etc. All these are embodied in a physical package...a book. Therefore, in this example we can say........'the word became paper and ink and dwelt in the hands of men'. I believe this may be the gist of what John is getting at.
God expressed Himself through the flesh Jesus. That is what the Gospel of John is about and that is what sonship is about - to be like your Father. This is why he, that flesh, is the way to the Father, a human body raised into glory. To know Jesus is to know his Father.
Became in Greek mean have in addition so God the word have a flesh in addition. God the word is a person in the old testament
Maybe folks are getting hung up on "eat" or "ate"...maybe we could say "consume"?
It helps but Jesus did say "eat."
Interesting that Bethlehem means "house of bread."
God said let there be light and there was light. God spoke a word and something came to be. Does this mean that the light is God? If so did He create Himself? God planned what light would be and its purpose before he spoke the word. Jesus was planned and his purpose established long before he was actually born. Words are thoughts before they are spoken and these thoughts come from within a person. God planned the universe before it came into existence. He saw the end even before he spoke it into time. Adam was the first man. Jesus the second.
Muld if you do not eat it . Jesus is the spirit of prophecy .
Amen! The KJV and most other English bibles are translated by trinitarians and so the translations are done to support that doctrine. Why we MUST study to prove the spirit.
go without a commentary in KJV. The other versions have copyrights attached. The word of God will not be copywritten.
Became in Greek mean have in addition so God the word have a flesh in addition. God the word is a person in the old testament
The Will of the Father is not only to accept and believe in Jesus as our Saviour. The Will of the Father is to "Behold the Son". All the redeemed must climb Calvary carrying our own cross and "Behold the Son Crucified".
But, no one can "Behold the Son, ALONE", All the redeemed must Behold the Son on the side of the Theotokos who will explain the meaning of the Cross of Christ.
Thats why Jesus commanded all the redeemed "Behold thy Mother."(John19:27)
You must carry your own cross and suffer as he suffered walking in his footsteps giving your body as he did as a living sacrifice to God unto death.
@@TheTrinityDelusion
Sorry, no one can climb Calvary without acknowledging Mary as the Mother of all the redeemed.
"Behold your Mother" is a command of Jesus agonizing At the Foot of the Cross not a suggestion, to fulfill His promise not to leave us orphan.
Do not choose to be orphan.
"BEHOLD YOUR MOTHER".(John19:27)
@@TheTrinityDelusion when you get closer to the truth, every religious spirit become very active working against you, to distract, mislead and put doubts.. Mother of harlots feels that her roots are being cut and soon great Babylon will have to fall. Progress is unstoppable, so keep it up !
@@Mckaule That is all very true. Jesus was very aware of this himself. Matthew 16:20
Problem with your religion is words and works added to the finished work of Jesus. You said "The will of the Father is NOT ONLY to accept and believe in Jesus as our Saviour". One man I know used to pray to so called Marry and his hand began to shake when he was doing that, after true conversion he asked in voice "who was shaking my hand ?" And suddenly he got words in his mind "It was me, Satan !" And he laughed.. I would better leave this false religion and it's idolatries until it's too late..
Hey brother... I love your videos, some really deep insight and inspiration on something I always believed Jesus was in fact the son of God not preexistent as Trinitarian‘s belief. However, upon viewing this video I do believe that you’re missing the mark. The word of God did in fact become flesh in Jesus birth. He was not born like any other man, but born of God right from birth. He did not come down and imbody flesh.. but instead became flesh from above as his father was truly his father from birth. The word becoming flesh used in John is speaking about the promised word mentioned centuries ahead. God had a promised word which was to be fulfilled in a future time. This was that time, and in fact the promised word became flesh. Has zero to do with the Trinitarian view but instead the promised word of God which existed since the beginning (before foundations of world) and shared with Abraham and his descendants.. and John the Baptist being the greatest of the prophets because he did prophesy and actually seen the coming of the promised word that all the prophets before him spoke of, including him which spoke about the promised word and finally the promised word became flesh or fulfilled or realized directly as he spoke.The end.
So, what was the purpose of the first thirty years of the life of Jesus? He didn't have the word of God in him? I believe even as a child the scriptures mention that Jesus knew God as his Father----literally
"“Do you thus repay YHVH O foolish and unwise people? Is He not your Father who has bought you" Deut 32:6
You, O YHVH, are our Father,
Our Redeemer from of old is Your name. Is 63:16
But now, O YHVH, You are our Father Isaiah 64:8
@@TheTrinityDelusion don't you believe that the Child Jesus knew the scriptures? He was very well learned in the scriptures even at the age of 12. I believe God had a very special relationship with Jesus. So you believe something drastic changed in Christ when he was baptized? Do you believe he noticed the difference in power after his baptism? No other man will ever be as powerful as Jesus.
@@mr.e1220 When Jesus was baptized, heaven was opened to him and the Spirit descended upon him. He had access to heaven while he walked on earth. So do all believers. God anointed Jesus by this Spirit and He, God, did many mighty signs and wonders through him. Jesus was able to do nothing from himself.
@@TheTrinityDelusion thank you. I know that heaven opened up and that the spirit descended upon him like a dove I don't know if that was a sign or if before that baptism Jesus had a smaller portion of God's spirit. Maybe I don't know how to ask my question but I think you know what I mean. For instance, we were not always believers. Jesus was a Believer ever since he was a child. It's like he had a born-again experience when he was baptized. I don't know. I believe God was in him even before his baptism. Then maybe at his baptism he was anointed for Ministry. Some people believe in some people believe in adoption ism dude that Jesus became the Son of God at the baptism. Or that's when he received the anointing of the Christ.
@@mr.e1220 Jesus was an Israelite, a believing Israelite. Christ means anointed one. Yes he was anointed at the Jordan and sent into the world from the Jordan. That is what Luke 4:18ff is about. As for him being born from above when the Spirit descended, take note that the Spirit came from above. That is what he is talking about in John 3. Notice at John 3:3 what Jesus is responding TO in verse 2. Jesus wasn't changing the subject in verse 3. He was answering Nicodemus.
1. God is one
2. Jesus called Father God
3. Jesus is Son of God
1+2+3 = Father is God & Jesus isn't God = The Trinity doctrine case closed. :-)
Why do you keep saying the word when it's the command became flesh creating Jesus Gods Messiah because Jesus didn't have a Father and wasn't made the normal way, so Yahweh's command created Jesus just like Adam and Jesus is the second Adam only because like Adam God commanded Jesus to exist.
Stop saying the word like it's some entity or Jesus himself because Jesus isn't the word of God but Gods words were revealed through Jesus and Jesus obeyed Gods words teachings.
Your confusing the people by claiming Jesus is actually Gods words.
Let me just throw this out there. Maybe Jesus became God's Old Testament word(the word became flesh) by fulfilling God's words(law and Prophecy), and thus symbolically becoming God himself(God was the word). Our bread is to obey God's New Testament word by obeying Jesus. By dying with Christ, we are no longer under the law of flesh(OT word), but of the spirit which is the cup of the blood of Christ and of his spiritual flesh(his words, or NT).
The flesh named Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies and what the Law aimed at.
No Trinity sounds very much like Islam.
also need to mention JW, and I think SDA, teach that Jesus was Michael the archangel as the word of God that was with God at John 1:1that descended from heaven and was re-incarnated as a "man" then went back to his position as archangel after taking care of sin on the world.
Its almost as bad as the trinitarians, I used to be a JW and the way they completely brainwash the members and have them eating out of the palms of their hands is astonishing.
I think there has to be some kind of witchcraft going on in there in order for their minds to be completely given over to anything and everything the leaders (governing body) say
Jesus Christ was in the Father and by Him everything is created. What happened in heaven, angel went against God. God born a son who was in him psalm 109. Angels must bow down before him and fallen angels did not and were cast out from heaven. God created this earth and Jesus Christ was walking in all of the Old Testament here on earth in His body. He came through Mary in his body with his blood not with our earthly body and blood. He is God and He died for us on a cross not a man like we are earthly or Godman. Jesus Christ is Man from heaven 1 Corinthians 15:45.
Humans come from heaven?
Jesus was a prophet? NO. He is the BEGOTTEN Son of God.
John 3:16 (KJV)
''For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.''
Matthew 16:16 ''And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.''
The verse actually says that God so loved the world that he gave his only unique son Jesus being born without a father but only a Mother and not because Jesus is Gods son but another unique son of God created without a Father.
Monogenes means unique or uniquely created, definition Monogenes has two primary definitions, "pertaining to being the only one of its kind.
Jesus being one of a kind among humans being created without a father.
The Scriptures say Jesus was a prophet in many places. Why would you disagree with the Scriptures?
Rocky's Mum Jesus was ALSO a prophet, and not JUST the begotten Son of God. How is this a problem?
When Jesus was baptized he received the Holy Spirit! Just like when he breathed the Holy Spirit on the disciples after resurrection. Jesus did not receive The Word of God at his baptism that is unbiblical because he is the Word of God. Stop lying. This is a false doctrine. John 1:1 says in the BEGINNING was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD. THE WORD BECAME FLESH.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Nowhere in scripture does it say Jesus Christ is a created being. This guy is lying.
Yeah except John identifies the Word that became flesh in John 1:15 as the same as the person identified by John the Baptist in John 1:30... who was non other than the man Jesus Christ. Please, give this a rest and go back to focusing on actual Trinitarian Delusions.
John actually said that Jesus was before him because he's more important greater then himself and not because Jesus existed before himself according to the Greek.
biblehub.com/greek/4413.htm Usage: first, before, principal, most important.
The word became the flesh Jesus who came after John.
@@lakerstekkenn sure, John said Jesus ranks before him because he ranks before him.... Right. Protos primary meaning is first chronologically. 90 percent of it's usage in the New Testament relates to chronology. Also, Jesus literally says that he existed before Abraham. So... Let's not fight this.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Jesus also said he existed before Abraham. Jesus is the Word.
@@austin3789 Jesus didn't speaks those words Before Abraham existed I Am, that was God Himself The Father speaking to the Jewish leaders and Yahweh was verifying the Jesus was the true Messiah by speaking to them through Jesus and informing them that He God is speaking.
Jesus clearly said that his teachings and words are no his own but God is speaking through him to everyone else just like Moses and the other prophets.
Yahweh speaks to the Jews through Moses and gives them commands but Moses in Deuteronomy says I gave you the Commandments and I did this and that but Moses didn't do anything it was God, Yahweh is speaking through Moses.
Moses summoned all the Israelite's and said to them:
English Standard Version
Moses lead Israel out of Egypt ? or God Almighty did again Gods speaking through Moses.
I have lead you forty years in the wilderness. Your clothes have not worn out on you, and your sandals have not worn off your feet.
Is Moses claiming to be the Lord God because Moses says that he's the Lord God according to Christian interpretation of Jesus speaking, because according to them Jesus was speaking these words but Jesus clearly says The words your hearing are not my own just like Moses and Yahweh speaking through Moses.
New Living Translation
You ate no bread and drank no wine or other alcoholic drink, but he provided for you so you would know that he is the LORD your God.
Just like Jesus and God saying before Abraham I Am, He Moses says, I have led you forty years in the wilderness. Your clothes have not worn out on you, and your sandals have not worn off your feet.
They are standing before Moses and not the Lord, but Yahweh is speaking through Moses and they are in God's presence, so according to Christian interpretation Moses is supposedly their God on Earth in the flesh and that's a wrong interpretation as we can see.
If Jesus spoke these words, Christians would claim that Jesus was claiming Divinity.
King James Bible
Ye stand this day all of you before the LORD your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, with all the men of Israel,
Joshua 22:2
Moses didn't command them to do anything but God Almighty did, but according to Christians If Jesus would've said this or someone said this about Jesus, then Christians would've said, see evidence that Jesus commanded Israel.
New International Version and said to them, "You have done all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded, and you have obeyed me in everything I commanded.
Joshua 22:4
the land of your possession, which Moses the servant of the LORD gave you beyond the Jordan.
Joshua 22:5
New Living Translation
But be very careful to obey all the commands and the instructions that Moses gave to you.
Joshua 24:1
God wasn't on Earth, so is this speaking about the manifestation of God in Joshua ? and according to Christian interpretation it must be, just like Jesus, but that's not true and Just like Jesus, it's how things are worded and not literally in the presence of God, like God's actually standing in front of Israel.
New International Version
Then Joshua assembled all the tribes of Israel at Shechem. He summoned the elders, leaders, judges and officials of Israel, and they presented themselves before God.
17 And Samuel called the people together unto the LORD to Mizpeh;
18 And said unto the children of Israel, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I brought up Israel out of Egypt, and delivered you out of the hand of the Egyptians, and out of the hand of all kingdoms, and of them that oppressed you:
19 And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes, and by your thousands.
Israel stands before God and speaks to God ? Samuel is God incarcerated ? or God Almighty is speaking through Samuel.
20 And when Samuel had caused all the tribes of Israel to come near, the tribe of Benjamin was taken.
21 When he had caused the tribe of Benjamin to come near by their families, the family of Matri was taken, and Saul the son of Kish was taken: and when they sought him, he could not be found.
22 Therefore they inquired of the LORD further, if the man should yet come thither.
If this is the Test for deity then all if these prophets are God on Earth according to Christians but that's a lie, and just like Jesus God Almighty commanded Jesus what to say and speak and God Almighty said Before Abraham I Am He and verified that Jesus was the servant Chosen Messiah, but not God.
The son of man are the Saints according to the interpretation of the Angel in Daniel chapter 7 who will pass judgment and sit on thrones in judgment and the Angels will descend upon these holy ones prophets remember Revelation chapter 4 and the 24 with crowns seated on the right hand of Gods Throne judges condemning their people and Glorifying God for creating everything Jesus only includes himself among these Saints as one of these prophets the Son of man.
Revelation 4:1-18:24
4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their ...
Psalms 82 explains things you are the children of God but will die like ordinary men and Yee are gods children of God.
Jesus simply placed himself among these Saints Children of God and gods but they are mortal men and will die.
It's so simple to understand but everyone gets confused and that's why Jesus quotes this scripture 82 Psalms because he's one of the chosen children of God the gods figuratively but not actually Gods son and not God himself.