John 1:1 -the Word in God's Prophet Jesus
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Jesus is the prophet God promised to raise up and through whom God would speak, "I will put My words in his mouth." The Word of God came to the prophet Jesus when the Father put His Spirit upon Jesus at the Jordan.
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WOW. This was powerful, concise, and scripture filled. One of your very best teachings. I also like the video format. Just screenshots and narrative.
"Thank you, but then there came a new question: why then there was not enough for Jesus to come only by blood ?"
Think of it this way. God conceived the MAN Jesus in his heart before the world was. This conception is is God's Logos. When he was born in Bethlehem that Logos was coming to be a reality- BEING. But the Logos is more than just his preconceived existence; it also includes what God predestined him to DO so he was baptized in water, commissioned to take away the sins of the world.
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Thank you for a most insightful, lucid and doctrinal free interpretation of this scripture. There are still many questions left to answer but I thank you for clearing away some of the fog.
It all makes sence now! God's word was made flesh meaning that God's word was spoken through Jesus the Prophet. God was in Christ I now understand that God speaking through Jesus does not make Jesus God, anymore than the OT prophets being God simply because God spoke through them. God bless your ministry!
Thank you this is so exciting for me to know the truth!!!!!!!!!
Dawn Van Naam what about where Jesus said "Now Father glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world began"......He was going back to be with the father (John 1 in the beginning was the word and the word was WITH God and the word was God) Isaiah 55 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. John 8 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me. 29He who sent Me is withMe. He has not left Me alone,because I always do what pleases Him.” John 16 28 28I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. John 1 1 in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Isaiah 35 4 4Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
(Notice what God is doing when he come ...all those things Jesus did!)
Dawn Van Naam nice to see someone understand the scriptures about YHWH almighty God and if his son YHWH spoke through his son YHWH SPIRIT was in his son with us is god rightly so
God was with his son by putting his spirit in him
Sorry Dawn Van Naam you are becoming deluded. Jesus had no human father and His blood was the blood of God Himself. He was before all things and in Him all things consist. Any teaching that detracts from the fact that everything, except sin, was created through the Son of God is false.
Jesus has always been the Son -He is Gods firstborn. And in Him the fullness was pleased to dwell. In that Jesus is the exact image of the wisdom and power of the Father yet has always been the Son. The Son who was, His spirit, was in the tent of the "body" God prepared for Him. Jesus-"Father into your hands I commit my spirit"
you are truly a blessed man of knowledge god bless you
Good stuff, thank you sir!
This video brings me so much joy. I can't thank you enough.
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@@lovealways2609 Love you brother or sister. God bless.
Meaningful, insightful, and thoughtful chapter.
Thank you.
Amen! Come, Lord Yeshua!
The good will of the Lord Yeshua be with all of you. Amen!
Good work!!!! God bless!
Such an important message! How could John 1 be so muddied as to not see what you have said here! Very clear truth. I appreciate it very much, thank you!
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As He even now is speaking through His Children today...by His Spirit; that teaches Us all things...yeah, the deep things of God. Blessings to all who hear and know the Father.
The videos, yesterday and today, have been fully preached! Yah bless
This is one of your best videos.
Clearly presented and backed up with lots of scriptural insight.
So many denominations make a fluff of John 1:1
Your best lesson. 👊🏼
Very good Kel. Our heavenly father gave us ears to hear the words of his son, may he be blessed !
Isaiah 66:5
"Hear the word of the Lord, you who tremble at his word: “Your own people who hate you, and exclude you because of my name, have said, ‘Let the Lord be glorified, that we may see your joy!’ Yet they will be put to shame".
one of your best Kel
Great great video! Thanks
Excellent
Where do you get the interpretation "servant-son" in the verses you referenced?
well said
Good context.
Excellent 😊👍👍
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
Good video a lot of excellent points here. Concerning the word of God being made flesh, The prophesied Messiah in Isaiah 49:1-6 gives the perfect explanation for John 1:1-14. This word from the prophesied Christ makes it clear that God spoke word and called Jesus from Mary's womb, and formed Jesus from Mary's womb to be his agent of salvation to the end of the earth. Jesus is God's new creation. Once again excellent video. God bless.
I used to have a book called; "Is Jesus in the Godhead, or is the Godhead in Jesus"... Have you ever seen it, if so what do you think of it?
No haven't seen it
awesome Kel--how are you?
what about where Jesus said "Now Father glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world began"......He was going back to be with the father (John 1 in the beginning was the word and the word was WITH God and the word was God) Isaiah 55 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. John 8 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me. 29He who sent Me is withMe. He has not left Me alone,because I always do what pleases Him.” John 16 28 28I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. John 1 1 in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Isaiah 35 4 4Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
(Notice what God is doing when he come ...all those things Jesus did!)
Destined before the foundation of what world? Before the fall?
Could be. katabole kosmou - downfall of the world?
exelent
The word for "I am" is translated as "I am he" or some equivalent many other places in the NT. In all these other instances the sentence and context are correct and clear to the reader. It makes no sense that Jesus would construct a sentence in that way by saying, "Before Abraham was, God." When translated according to the same word use in other passages, the sentence makes perfect sense within the context. Jesus' statement is referring to what he said about Abraham in verse 56 and their response to that statement in verse 57.The sentence in verse 58 answered exactly who Abraham longed to see - Jesus essentially said, I am THAT man who Abraham longed to see. In which case, the Jews, understanding that Jesus was saying that he WAS the Messiah, proceeded to pick up stones to kill him. Note that during Jesus' trial before the Sanhedrin, his "crime" was admitting to being the Messiah, NOT God. Never in that trial was Jesus ever accused of saying that he was God. Had Jesus admitted to being God, they would have had authority to kill him on the spot. But as it stood, because they believed that God was going to eventually send a "man" that would be their Messiah, they took precautions, mostly for political reasons, because Jesus had such a great following and had performed miracles with many witnesses. So they decided to take him to the Romans to see if they would kill him - so they could say that Jesus' "blood" was not on their hands.
+Neil Braithwaite That's pretty much it. The Jews had heard him say "I AM" at least twice before in this dialogue and they never raised an eyebrow. In fact, Jesus declared that he does NOT glorify himself concerning who he is. However, Trinitarians contradict him and have him glorifying himself to the utmost.
Neil Braithwaite your so right
Paul says the exact same thing and uses Gods same words in witch he didn't have to, so now you must conclude that Paul is also claiming deity or divinity.
1 Corinthians 15:10
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
What does he mean I Am What I Am ? what's Paul talking about his oneness with God or him thinking he's God?
Only God says I Am What I Am and nobody else, so why is Paul making statements that God only said?
So if we use the Christian logic Paul says the exact same thing God said I Am What I Am and doesn't just simply say I am what God has made me, but we know that Paul doesn't claim deity, just like we know that Jesus didn't claim deity just because he said before Abraham was, i am he, we have to read the context and the Master Text, where Jesus said that the Father is the only true God.
Jesus made a clear master text statement, when he stated that and I quote.
And this is life eternal THAT THEY MAY KNOW THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD and know that Jesus was sent by you (as the Messiah)
The Greek says one and only and not Jesus in a Trinity using mono's in Greek using the singular Thee yourself.
su Greek the actual meaning is -- yourself biblehub.com/greek/4771.htm
monos Greek meaning only only, solitary, alone (1), just (2), mere (1), merely (2), only (18), only one (1), only thing (1), private (1), themselves* biblehub.com/greek/3441.htm
1. an adjective, alone (without a companion);
b. it is joined with its noun to other verbs also, so that what is predicated may be declared to apply to some one person alone (cf. Winer's Grammar, 131 (124) note):
Jesus is making it clear that God is the only alone one true God.
All other scriptures have to be interpreted using this master text, that is clear and with NO ambiguous statements and is not used as a parable.
Therefore any scriptures in the New Testament that they claim hint to Jesus being God or close to God are faulty ordinary mans beliefs and Jesus sayings are interpreted wrongly, because the master text, the words from Jesus, says God is the only true God alone and Jesus is sent by him and we should know and believe this, to have eternal life.
To further prove this master text Jesus tells Mary that he's going to my father and your father my God and your God, this totally agrees to the master text and proves Jesus didn't say he is God.
I tell my Christian friends that you can't use faulty interpretations on other scriptures that are parables and ambiguous statements that contradict the master clear text and any other interpretations by Christians that claim Jesus is claiming deity and divinity, is a lie and the interpretation isn't correct or these scriptures are parables and ambiguous statements also these scriptures are ether altered in history or clearly doesn't mean that Jesus is God, because the master text declared that God is the only true God and this is life eternal and they know you sent me (as the Messiah).
So when Jesus says before Abraham was i am he, it doesn't mean he's claiming to be God but is only stating that Abraham prophesied about me and i am he the Messiah that was foretold before even Abraham, because if we don't use the master text, you will get confused and use the wrong interpretation, because remember these scriptures have been altered also.
May Allah guide everyone to the truth.
@@lakerstekkenn awesome breakdown. If I could copy this response I would be delighted.
@@yongrich You can copy it no problem.
Thank you, but then there came a new question: why then there was not enough for Jesus to come only by blood ? why water was needed ? And also I always wondered about "is come", what tense it is exactly present/future because in my language it's not clear. Does it refer to past imperfect tense ? And why John made so complicated instead of writing what you wrote and explaining it in more details ? That's lot of questions :)
What does it mean when the scriptures say 'and his name is called The Word of God'? Rev 19:13. I have read John 1 and believe God the Father is the Word. This Revelation verse does not say he[Jesus] is the Word of God but that his name is called the Word of God. Thanks
OOOOooh wow. I didn't know in the Septuagint that "came to" was PROS in the OT.
Eyes opened! I have a Septuagint and haven't even seen that.
Could a native son be Joshua?
Jesus said that what he is saying is not his but of the one who sent me.
Excellent exegesis, the word has been fully preached, filled full
Rom 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached [πεπληρωκέναι - root pleroo] the gospel of Christ.
Mat 5:17 `Do not suppose that I came to throw down/annul the law or the prophets--I did not come to throw down/annul, but to fulfil [πληρῶσαι - root pleroo]
The Good News of the Kingdom of God has been fully preached
I am almost speechless! God’s spirit has opened my eyes (through His written word & prayer) over the last six months that there is ONE God...YHVH...our Father and ONE Lord and Savior...Yeshua...the Son of the Most High God. However, I have been struggling with this this passage (John 1) for months. Your explanation has literally been a “God send”. Another passage that I am also struggling with is Genesis 1:26.?
@The Way, I trust that more and more of the scriptures are becoming clear for you. For me, once I came into the knowledge of this truth scripture naturally began to make better sense. For help with Genesis 1:26 look at Isaiah chapter 6. Here Isaiah is having a vision of the Throne room of God. There are Seraphim there. Look at verse 8. " YHVH says " whom shall I send? Who will go for us?" God here is speaking to these heavenly beings. I think it is safe to deduce that it is the same in Genesis 1:26
@@rickyzoe1 but what about hebrews 1..it's a dilemma to me😐
@@Farah-rb3bt could you be more specific please. What is about Hebrews 1 that is a dilemma for you?
@@rickyzoe1 yes sure.. Hebrews 1:2..God made the world by Jesus. Now, Jesus couldn't be only a prophet .. Cause let's face it, God did not say that to any prophet. On the other hand, if Jesus is the word of God literally, then i could understand this.. cause in psalm 33:6 it is said that God created heaven by his word..could Jesus be the word of God to us but not God in himself??! If He is, then he is definitely exalted more than prophets and angels, and he can't do anything by himself, and he cannot know the day or hour he is coimng again cause he is what God speaks of...like, if i speak to others and my word to them became flesh so that they can understand me.. Well, my word is what i want to say.. It won't have its own will.. It is not another entity..and only me knows when to say what I want to say... Hmm i hope that makes sense to some..
Jeremiah 1:11-12
New King James Version
11 Moreover *the word of the Lord* came to me, saying, “Jeremiah, what do you see?”...
Why can't this *word* be Jesus..God spoke to us through prophets and in the last days his Word to us was his own son..Yashua.. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18...
I need someone to discuss that with me.. I am not against any one. I need to understand.
I don't understand how people get so offended by calling Jesus a Prophet when the Bible says it so plainly! lol
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
@@timothys4864
[Jhn 4:23-24 KJV] 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
[Jhn 17:3 KJV] 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
[1Co 8:6 KJV] 6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him.
[Jhn 12:44-45 KJV] 44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
[Jhn 13:20 KJV] 20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Yes, I believe Jesus deity is intact. I agree with you on the spirit father and holy spirit are the same but Jesus is the Word made flesh.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
explain (Hebrews 9:24) if Jesus is God?
It says Christ Entered into Heaven to what ? (Appear) in the (PRESENCE) of who? (GOD) ON OUR beahalf. So after Jesus died on Earth and went back to (Heaven) what God Almighty did Jesus appear before?
(Exodus 6:3) King James Bible is God
@@tiffanywright6653 that was a phenomenal post...
Thanks for That info...
It is very clear in scripture that Jesus has a God and had a father and had a teacher...
And that God, teacher, father was YHWH, the self existing one, who created everything by HIMSELF...
Duet. 18:15-18, Brother Kel, at Horeb (Mount Sinai) when God had forgiven the Israelites for their sin of making the golden calf and they asked God to be with them and speak to them, didn’t God relent when they asked him personally to come with them and speak to them and not send a prophet to speak to them for him? He, God, said okay he would personally go and NOT send a prophet is what I’m trying to say. Thank you. Suzy
That is, according to Orthodox Judaism.
I'm not sure I understand your question. After the giving of the Law on Sinai, the Israelites actually asked for God not to speak directly to them anymore because it terrified them. So God promised to raise up a prophet and put HIS (God's) words in that prophets mouth.
Yeah I know. I just learned well about prepositions.
The exclamation was because I have an elder who just tried to make a snippet comment teaching that "pros" in John 1:1 meant Jesus was "close to" God, the "close" relationship of God with His eternal Son. I was questionable about his claim, and I had only slightly looked into it.
The fact that I'm jumping with joy is the fact that "pros" is clearly in the OT Septuagint in use with prophets and clearly doesn't mean the prophet is God.
This video is twisting the context of the whole Chapter. Read the whole chapter to understand the context of the John was revealing to us. You are jumping from one passage to another and misleading people. The subject of the whole chapter was THE WORD which is JESUS CHRIST. Pray for spiritual guidance before you read the scripture otherwise you will be mislead. In this chapter, verse per verse are connected to point from the Word - Light - Life - Him -Born of God Jesus.
God enlighten us all...
(John Chapter 1)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same (the Word) was in the beginning with God. (Subject is the Word:Jesus)
3 All things were made by him (Subject is the Word:Jesus); and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him(Jesus) was life; and the life(Jesus) was the light(Jesus) of men.
5 And the light(Jesus) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light(Jesus), that all men through him might believe.
8 He(John) was not that Light(Jesus), but was sent to bear witness(John) of that Light(Jesus).
9 That was the true Light(Jesus), which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He(Jesus) was in the world, and the world was made by him(Jesus), and the world knew him not.
(NOTE: Jesus was in the world)
11 He(Jesus) came unto his own(mankind), and his own(mankind) received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he(Jesus) power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name(Jesus):
13 Which(Jesus) were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Nobody else were born of God except (Jesus)
14 And the Word(Jesus) was made flesh(Jesus), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(The main subject in this chapter is THE WORD, THE LIGHT, THE LIFE, THE NAME THAT SHOULD BE BELIEVED, THE ONE THAT WAS BORN OF GOD and He is JESUS)
Is autos not He?
Matthew 16:13-17
John is speaking against people who said Jesus the man was one and the divine Christ was another. In other words, they did not believe that Christ was flesh. John is saying that Jesus, human flesh, is the Christ. That is also what is meant when he says that Jesus did not come by water only but by water and blood. Blood refers to his Bethlehem birth; water to his baptism. The heretics believed the divine Christ (person 1) descended on the man Jesus (person 2) at the Jordan.
So trinity delusion, do you believe js is god or not?
Brilliant dissertation!
Because it is truth we know it is truth and it sets us free
I despair for those blind spiritual fools like James White and Michael Brown and their ilk.
In reality though these men choose to not see the truth about Jesus because they are from their father the devil as the Pharisees before them!
James Moffatt Bible, Proverbs 8: 22-31: “The Eternal formed me first of his creation, first of all his works in days of old; I was fashioned in the earliest ages, from the very first when earth began; I was born when there was no abysses, when there were no fountains full of water; ere he sunk the bases of the mountains, ere the hills existed I was born, when the earth and fields were not created, nor the very first clods of the world. When he set the heavens up I was there, when he drew the Vault o'er the abyss, when he made the clouds firm overhead, when he fixed the fountains of the deep, when he set the boundaries of the the sea, when he laid the foundation of the earth, I was with him then, his foster child, I was his delight day after day, playing in his presence constantly, playing here and there over his world, finding my delight in human-kind.”
IT WAS THE WISDOM WHO WAS WITH GOD (JESUS CHRIST) WHEN FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD WAS BEING CREATED!
God the son He will judge the hole world for their sins
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which HE WILL JUDGE the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead. Acts 17:30-31
Zechariah 12:10 God said, with a spirit and supplication, they will look on me the one they have pierced, and they will mourn, this is God saying he is Jesus Christ long before the cross.
Funny but John the Apostle didn't quote it that way.
@@TheTrinityDelusion In christ Jesus all the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form, Jesus the one who came by water (eternal spirit)and blood (flesh),and the farther (the divine conscience/wisdom/the tree of knowledge of good and evil) for they are three that testify, and in agreement, that christ is the head over every power and authority, Jesus is the wisdom and power of God. Jesus christ and the farther are one.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Question, did Jesus christ lie when he said that the farther God and I are one? The farther is in me and I am in the farther?
@@marcusvanrensberg6060 "did Jesus christ lie when he said that the farther God and I are one?"
He sure didn't. And he also prayed that his disciples would be one with him and the Father JUST as they are one. Jesus tells us how they are one. Did you not care?
The Father is in true believer and true believers are in the Father. Are they God too?
@@TheTrinityDelusion So in John 14:7-11 Philip asked Jesus to show us the farther, Jesus did not tell him the truth, in your belief. And In Zechariah 12:10 God the farther said that he was pierced, by Israel, Him telling you that he is Jesus Christ on the cross.
Do you see a reason for "Word" to be capitalized? I don't, other than KJV translators being trinitarian and trying to imply its a pre-existent Son.
Btw this is the best explanation of John 1:1 I have come across so far.
I really have difficulty understanding 1 John 4 : 2 " Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:" Practically everyone explains that it means : Jesus Christ (Word of God) / God himself came from heaven and became man. What John truly had in his mind in this verse ?
Mckaule
, 1 John 4 : 2,3 " Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:" 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Since God is Spirit and not flesh, if Jesus was God up in Heaven and God became flesh, he would have had to have travelled billions of light years through space to arrive here (not possible for a fleshly human being) then enter Mary's womb. John is refuting any notion of an incarnation. Jesus could not have preexisted as God(Who's Spirit) and then come to Earth and afterward be born as a fleshly baby; instead Jesus was miraculously created by God in Mary's womb as a human baby. John refutes the Incarnation(a pagan belief---see Acts 14:11) and also John refuted any notion of a dual nature of Christ. The belief that Jesus was a spirit being who came to Earth is the spirit of antichrist.
@@4321grp thanks.. 7 years past when I put this question lol.. during this period I already came to the same conclusion as you've just written. Jesus was fully human and he still is human but exalted One. Exalted to the point of being second in command in all what GOD alone created with His own hands. Jesus is come in the flesh means that he is born as we, in this sinful flesh. Second Adam, who had to be a descendant of Adam, flesh out of flesh in order to condemn sin in this sinful flesh, to reverse the curse. Yesterday I found a really great teaching call "Two Adams" by Peter Whiffin on Omegaman radio on RUclips. You'll be blessed.. thanks.. May GOD of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you..
@@Mckaule ,Jesus had to be the perfect lamb without spot or blemish and fully human in all ways without any unfair advantage in order to atone for our sins, to be able to undo what Adam had done, to be the 2nd Adam, Jesus performed perfectly the task that God gave him, Jesus saved all mankind. praise him! You be blessed too my brother.
@@4321grp Amen amen.. "son of man (hebrew 'ben Adam) a.k.a [human being] standing at the right hand of GOD". How christians can't see so obvious and plain. "Son of man" for them becomes a mystery saying with a hidden meaning, secret formula which means something else but not what it plainly means. Son OF God becomes God the Son. Spirit OF God becomes God the Spirit. What a mess. If you ask them to define who this GOD which has Jesus as His son is they ignore the question because they can't say that it's Father/Son/Holy Spirit. They just try to give you some verses and then run from you by saying "blasphemy, blasphemy..", they said that I'm Satan.. lol..
@@4321grpyes and a human only can not be sinless. You can not be even one hour wirhout making a sin. Jesus had God with and in Him all the time. That way he was a DIVINE.
Ok.....tell it to Jesus when the end comes..... see how that Goes.
Those who are of Christ, speak the SAME THINGS as Jesus spoke...for as the Father sent Him to speak these words; even He has sent Us to speak the SAME...Those who have heard HIS WORD are Brethren and Heirs with Christ Jesus...they have HIS WORD abiding in them...they KNOW the mind of Christ...Those who do not hear are none of His; they have rejected Him and told only lies in His name...they listen to the voice and words of man, and blasphemy His name continuously.
I need an answer to this question about the heavenly throne of yahweh , the one he sits on ,
@The Trinity Delusion WHEN David sat on the throne Yahweh did not Tabernacle with us at this point and the throne of David is reserved for his eternal reign when he will be dwelling with us. Now according to you when Yahweh moves his throne to dwell with us he will allow a prophet to move him aside and steal his glory and reign for ever. They are different scenarios and any meathead can tell the difference.
So how do you explain a prophet moving Yahweh aside to reign in glory from this main heavenly throne?
D.W ERFMANN
Nobody moved Yahweh aside. That's your own confusion talking.
@@TheTrinityDelusion How does your prophet reign from the center of the throne in heaven for eternity if YHWH has not made room.
@@LONGMAN772 God the Father is SPIRIT. He lives in believers. How does it not occur to you that he dwells in His Christ?
@@TheTrinityDelusion I know that, he is in the father and father is in him, i just dont get the prophet thing your on about, no prophet can reign from gods eternal heavenly throne and have everyone bow to him, no prophet can raise himself from the grave, and no prophet can make everything for himself including himself. This sounds like idolatry and polytheism , no prophet should have the name mighty , great God this is not on in monotheism but is ok with the cults like JHW AND Mormons. I guess your a cult kinda guy , into paganism and idolatry. The JHW think he is michael the angel so i guess your not to far off with your prophet thing you have going on.
David was a prophet who sat on Yahweh's throne. Do you not have any idea what that means?
Then it means that a budhist who talked to me today is right about Jesus because he also claimed Jesus is come in flesh ?! Does it mean that he has a spirit of God ? Also I talked to one follower of Krishna and he also said that Jesus is come in a flesh, and that Jesus is just one of the ascended masters and he also said that those who follow Krishna have to have his spirit for their scriptures to be opened to you and about filing of your spirit with the spirit of the master you follow.. e.t.c
That is false if they got that knowledge elsewhere other than the Bible... The BIble is SUPERIOR to any book!
Yes Muslim's, etc etc believe Jesus came in the flesh, but they don't believe he is the son of God, that's the difference.....
1Jo 5:3 NASB - For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.
1Jo 5:4 NASB - For whatever is fnborn of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world-our faith.
1Jo 5:5 NASB - Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
All Buddhist, Muslim's, etc etc if Jesus was the son of God?
That's what they don't believe
@@kevinmichaelhughes4257 but how can be son of God if is not devine? Only mere man can not be son of God. Must be half man and half God. Dangerous to claim Jesus as only human as we.
Rom 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the \Spirit of Christ/, he does not belong to Him.
I'm finding many issues with the fact that trinitarians are lifting up the Greek language to be way more than it is... making it some special language, and then reading into it.
Lexicons and concordances are dangerous without knowledge of grammar and other uses of the same word. That's pretty much my point. Sorry to leave so many comments but that little truth you pointed out in the Septuagint made my eyes open up more!
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they searched for what time The Spirit of The Messiah who dwelt in them revealed, and testified that the sufferings of The Messiah were coming, and his glory which was after that;
I'm a muslim and i like your video teaching about the true God which Jesus pray to. We have the same God which the one that our prophet teach to who we should pray to. I need to make my girl friend believe that Jesus is not a God because she believe in Trinity.
JESUS IS THE CREATOR AND THEREFORE HE IS GOD!
U realize that Muslims can't have sexual relations before marriage right?
Jesus was a King . John was a prophet . I just believe Jesus is more then a prophet . 1 John 5 : 20 And we know that the Son of God is come , and hath given us an understanding that we know him that is even in his Son Jesus Christ . This is true God and eternal life . John 12:49 Justsaying working on Malachi 2:4-6 , with 2 Cor 5
;21 Rev 19:11 Rev 5:5 ,2 Co 3:4.
No that's not what John had in mind. If you look into the gnostics, the sects that the apostles and early church constantly dealt with and deemed heretics(knowledge falsely so-called)... then you'll see what John had in mind. Many gnostic sects denied Jesus being in the flesh because they believed in platonic philosophy and a false deity called "Demiurge" created physical matter sinful. Therefore if Jesus was in the flesh, he would have been a sinner... so they denied Jesus in flesh.
Are you saying Christs existence started on the earth? Are you saying that Jesus did not exist before the world was created?
If by "exist" you mean a self conscious personal being existed prior to his birth in Bethlehem, then NO.
@@TheTrinityDelusion
I dont believe in the Trinity and i do not believe Jesus and God Almighty are the same person because the bible does not support either theology.
@@shawnr7482 Jesus is not his own father. And that is why he is called the son OF the Father.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Jesus was created long before his birth in Bethlehem according to several scripture s by the father. Jesus is not God. He is the first-born of all creation
@@shawnr7482 The firstborn of all creation is the firstborn out of the dead. Paul is talking about the risen Christ.
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with these our eyes, which we have looked upon, and these hands of ours have handled of that word of life, (For that life was made manifest, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was made manifest unto us.) That I say, which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye may also have fellowship with us, and that our fellowship also may be with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. And these things write I unto you, that your joy may be full. This then is the message, which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness.
🐟 1 John 1:1-5 GNV
It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, are spirit and life. From that time, many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus to the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Master, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life: And we believe and know that thou art that Christ that Son of the living God.
🐟 John 6:63,66-69 GNV
It's crucial to recall that the use of the term 'father' initially symbolized God's love for His creations. However, the subsequent alterations by Bible scribes twisted its meaning to imply that Jesus was born for God and Mary, which amounts to a clear blasphemy. God, being Holy, does not parent children, but God creates everything through the ‘command word, Be'! That why Jesus is the word of God, meaning a creation God!
Jesus said that he was not "the prophet" the Deuteronomy 18 refers to all the prophets . John is the Elijah style prophet . God himself spoke to the previous prophets . This does not occur in Jesus case does it.? Jesus has the torah in print.
Jesus never said he was not the prophet. And Peter said Jesus IS the Deut 18 prophet.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I stand corrected.
Hey brother Kel. I used your idea about John 1:1 in a discussion with some trinitarians and you should see the excuse making going on. It is hilarious!! I can send it to you on a email if you like. It is ok if you don't want to personal message me but wanted to thank you and wanted you to see it. Thanks
I have an email address on my website.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
explain (Hebrews 9:24) if Jesus is God?
It says Christ Entered into Heaven to what ? (Appear) in the (PRESENCE) of who? (GOD) ON OUR beahalf. So after Jesus died on Earth and went back to (Heaven) what God Almighty did Jesus appear before?
(Exodus 6:3) King James Bible is God
Lenell75 niles Proverbs 8:22-31 what is mentioned here is The WISDOM ! OF THE CREATOR (JESUS IS THE CREATOR ) READ REV. 14:7 (JESUS WILL COME BACK TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD) JESUS IS THE JUDGE AND NOT GOD THE FATHER! JESUS IS THE SPOKESBEING OF GOD THE FATHER, JESUS IS THE WORD, THE WORD IS WITH GOD AND THE WORD IS GOD ,REF. JOHN1:1 JESUS IS THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE COL1:15.
Do you know what I love about videos like this? .......you like other modalists expose your humanistic understanding of the infinite.... like the jw’s and mormons, etc.... No human being can understand The Holy Scriptures without The True Holy Spirit’s Working in and upon our hearts and minds comparing Scriptures with Scripture. .... IF JESUS IS NOT GOD ALMIGHTY HE CANNOT BE THE SAVIOR. Look it up without your preconceived ideas. Got Questions? Site can explain better than I can with one finger typing.
Sorry, no modalists here. You don't know what you are talking about.
Why does a prophet sit and reign on Gods throne for eternity?
Because his God raised him up.
@@TheTrinityDelusion So God lets a prophet sit on his throne and reign, the same God who does not share his glory with another , and this prophet raises himself up? Wow Some prophet!
You need to learn to use your head. Your Bible says David sat on Yahweh's throne. Now what?
@@TheTrinityDelusion Of course he did , its the throne that ends with Yahweh on it as planned and prophesied , so i agree with you on this point.
Why is your prophet called Mighty God, Great God, everlasting father, Alpha and omega, Lord of Lords , King of Kings, the one to whom all in heaven and earth bow their knee to . My logic has a hard time reasoning this to be a prophet. Seems illogical and completely without reason to me.! and your the one with the thinking brain!
This video is correct simply because if the word is a second person in John 1:1, we would then have TWO GODS side by side if Jesus is GOD as MOST have been deceived into believing, CONTRADICTING the word of GOD who always declares He is GOD ALONE, on HIS OWN with NO one next to Him or WITH Him at creation Isaiah 44:24.
However when Jesus is born John 1:14, He then becomes the living, walking word of GOD, for His GOD, and the Lamb of His ONE TRUE GOD, for filling countless Bible Prophecies: He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you 1 Peter 1:20.
Notice how we read Jesus was foreknown, and instead do we not read Jesus was alive and living WITH GOD before the foundation of the world.
The Greek word for (προγινώσκω foreknown) simply means to know beforehand, just as we read Jesus was revealed in the countless Bible Prophesies.
The verses like John 1:1, John 1:3 John 1:10, John 17:5, John 8:58, and so on are used by people who believe Jesus is GOD, or by people who believe Jesus preexisted His Flesh, but on close examination, these verses are again ether FALSE Trinitarian translations, or taken out of context, or simply misunderstood by most.
Respectfully responding to the points in order to show they don't undermine the notion of the Trinity:
1) Deuteronomy 18:15-18 doesn't show that Jesus wasn't Yahweh, nor does Yahweh say this of the one who is to come. Remember, the Christian understanding of the Bible is that Jesus became a man, yet remained God still. In Deut 18 is referring to a situation where Yahweh was speaking to Moses in a pre-incarnate perhaps more spiritual state, not the more relatable state when He came to us in Jesus. Debt 18 is not determinative of whether the Logos Himself would be God incarnate (as a Prophet/Man) or not.
2) Putting the words in the mouth etc doesn't undermine the Trinity doctrine, which teaches that there is relationship in the Oneness of God between Father, Son and Holy Spirit; and thus to have communication between Father and Son is not an issue- indeed is part of the understanding. It is a mistake to ascribe John 17:8 and John 8:47- here the Greek word for "words" is not a derivative of logos, but of rhema. Thus we are not talking about the Logos of God in this sense in these verses, who is with God and who is God (according to John 1:1)
3) You should note that John 1:1 in original Greek does not say "the word was God" but rather "God was the Word" biblehub.com/text/john/1-1.htm . Thus the whole argument that "words CAME to prophets" is the same as "God was the Word" is erroneous. I can come to Bob, but that does not make me Bob.
The thing for JWs to remember is that there are 2 aspects to John 1:1. That the Word is "with" God and is God. JWs will only focus on the "with" God to emphasise his manhood. Christians completely agree, but we take a holistic approach to Scripture and also look at all the verses which describe that the Word is God as well. Thus you can understand John 8:58 and all the other verses that agree that Jesus is indeed God. Thus the importance to take a holistic approach to Scripture.
Christ yeshua say me and my father are one 1, i was before abraham, i am the Alpha and omega begining and end the Almighty, read hebrews jesus is fully God
Hebrews says he was made perfect through suffering.
0:42 "what does John really have in mind there?" You are using HASTY GENERALIZATION which is a logical fallacy, because you are cherry picking bible verses to suggest to us what John was thinking and not considering the whole picture including counterarguments.
This video has EISEGESIS written all over it.
You're tap dancing around the "deity" of the Son. (Col 2:9)
He had this glory before he came to the earth. (John 17:5)
"And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed."(ESV)
John 17:24 "Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because YOU LOVED ME BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD." (capitals for emphasis)
John 8:56-58 "Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” So the Jews said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
The Pharisees rightly were puzzled by Jesus' words, because a man younger than 50 had seen Abraham. The logical reason in his answer is that he existed looking before Abraham's time. Consider too that YHWH's angel spoke to Abraham, this was the Word as God's spokesman. (Gen 15:4,5; 18:1,22)
In Genesis 15: 4,5 "the Word of the LORD" "brought him outside". (Compare John 1:18)
Yes. NT is a very contradicted book.
Jesus Christ is the divine word of God. John 1:2,3,4,5; All things were made by, and without him was not nothing made. He is the light and life of every man that comes into the word. Colossians 1:15-19; All thing we're made by him, whether they be things visible, invisible, powers, thrones, principalities, all things were made by him, and for him. He is immanuel, God with us. You are correct as to what your saying, but Jesus Christ is Divine and is God and His's body, flesh is the son of God, Begotten by the Spirit of God. Your saying that Jesus Christ is only the word that the Spirit of God spoke unto the prophets of ole, that word that Moses said that God will send and raise up a prophet like unto Moses. I here was your saying. But I believe when John spoke of the word in John 1:1; the beginning was that time before or at that time at the beginning of creat, The Word was in the beginning, and was with God, and is God. And the same (The Word) was with. The Word is Truth, life, light, power, 1st and last and is "GOD' THE ALMIGHTY! THANK YOU FOR SHARING!
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
I have problems with the trinity as well but you must not deny the Son, just like you wouldn't deny that his Sun is in the sky. On Earth as it is in heaven. Jesus is his Son different from me and you sir. Jesus is not "a" son. He is THE Son that allows us to be sons as well.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
I do not hold to the author's theological position, but I do share his position about the Deity of the only true God the Father operated through the Son rather than an alleged coequal Deity of a false God the Son. The Son is the man who was born at Bethlehem. The titles, "Son of God," "Logos of God (Rev. 19:13)", "Wisdom of God," "Power of God" all apply to Jesus but we never find a single scripture that says, "God the Son," or God the Word (logos)," or God the Wisdom, and so forth. Notice that John 2:19 states, "I WILL raise it up." Normally a prophet would say, "thus says God (Yahweh), "I will ..." But notice that Jesus spoke the words of God the Father directly such as, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Thus proving that Jesus did not merely speak the words of the Father as a mere prophet, but he spoke the words of the Father with a divine awareness of his equality with God (Philippians 2:6 "isos" means, "the same as", "identical", or "equal").In John 8 the Pharisees had said, "You are not yet 50 years old, and have you seen Abraham? Jesus never said, "No". "Before Abraham was I am" does not sound like he was saying that Abraham had rejoiced to prophetically see Christ. It sounds like Jesus pre-existed Abraham as the great "I AM" of Exodus 3:14-15. I believe that the Son OF God is the God of Israel who became a true man just as Hebrews 1:17 declares. Therefore Jesus is not God with us as God, but that only true God with us as a fully complete man, the Father. The historical data informs us that the Modalistic Monarchian Christians were the only Christians who believed in the deity of Christ well before the Trinitarian doctrine developed. Oneness Pentecostals hold the same doctrine of the earliest Christians and of the original apostles. Much more info on our web site at ApostolicChristianFaith.com
+Global Impact Ministries Peter testified the following promise was about the Prophet Jesus: "I will raise up a prophet from among their [l]countrymen like you, and I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 It shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him." Deuteronomy 18:15-18.
The Trinity Delusion Yes Jesus as a fully complete man spoke the words (logos) of the only true God the Father just as he did the works of God the Father (John 10:37-38). Did Moses or any of the prophets do the works of the Father like Jesus did?
Acts 2:17 proves that THE FATHER POURED OUT HIS HOLY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH starting on the Day of Pentecost.
“It shall come to pass in the last days, says God, that I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH.” Acts 2:17
Yet John identified Jesus as the one who would baptize God’s people with the Holy Spirit.
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.” Matthew 3:11
Since the true identity of Jesus is the omnipresent Holy Spirit of God the Father incarnate as a true man, JESUS CAN SEND HIS OWN HOLY SPIRIT DOWN TO EARTH AS THE FATHER JUST AS HE COULD RESURRECT HIS OWN BODY AS THE FATHER.
Acts 2:32 informs us that GOD THE FATHER RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD,
“God has raised this Jesus to life.” Acts 2:32
Likewise, John 5:21 states that it is “THE FATHER (who) raises the dead and gives them life …”
Yet John 2:19 informs us that JESUS RAISED HIS OWN BODY FROM THE DEAD when he said,
“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spoke of the temple of his body.” John 2:19
Wherefore, Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit as the Father just as he raised up his own body as the Father. This proves that Jesus did the works of His Father because he is the deity of God the Father incarnate as a true man.
Jesus as God the Father as a true man said in John 10:37 that he did “THE WORKS OF” his Father.
"If I do not do THE WORKS OF MY FATHER, do not believe Me; but IF I DO THEM, though you do not believe Me, BELIEVE THE WORKS, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” John 10:37
Trinitarians cannot explain why an alleged coequal God the Son said that he did the works of his Father. If he was a distinct coequal true God Person of an alleged Three Person deity, then he should have been able speak his own words and do His own works.
A man may have some of the characteristics of his father, but no man could ever say that he actually does the works of his father unless he is that father. This has to be true because God the Father said in Isaiah 46:9,
“I AM GOD AND THERE IS NONE LIKE ME.”
Since Jesus did THE WORKS OF HIS FATHER, HE MUST BE THAT FATHER.
Wherefore, Jesus is the only man in human history who did the works of God the Father because the divine in Christ is the Father. That is why Jesus as God the Father as a man has the power to send His Spirit down to the earth (in John 15:26), just as he as God the Father had the power to resurrect his own body in John 2:19.
The majority of the earliest Christians were known as Modalistic Monarchians long before the Trinity doctrine developed. The second largest group that began to develop were the Semi-Arians (similar to JW'S), but there were very few who held Ebionite or Adoptionist views within the first few centuries of the Christian era.
"Since Jesus did THE WORKS OF HIS FATHER, HE MUST BE THAT FATHER." Did you really think that made sense?
The Trinity Delusion No miracle of the Bible makes any sense to us finites. Just as I believe that the man Christ Jesus was resurrected after three days and nights, so I believe in the miracle of Yahweh becoming our salvation as a man (Psalm 118:14; Isaiah 53:1; John 12:37-38; Hebrews 2:17; 1 Tim. 3:16).
Have you read the earliest Christian writings such as Ignatius, Hermas, and Mathetes? They all said that God became a man via the Father's Holy Spirit.
You claimed that since Jesus does the works of the Father then he IS the Father. Christians do the works of God.
To really understand the Truth of where John took the idea of the WORD, you must learn what The Jews are reading in the First century in the Synagogue, how they are interpreting the Torah and how they understand it. You will also have a deeper understanding of where the Trinity came about and why the early Christians who is a Jew came to accept Jesus Christ. When the Jews returned from Babylonian captivity 450 years before the birth of Yeshua, they had adopted Aramaic as their native language. Although it is a dialect of ancient Hebrew, Aramaic is about as different from it as modern Italian is from its classical Latin ancestor. Consequently, during the first and early second centuries A.D., Aramaic translations of the Hebrew TaNaKh were made. These translations, called Targums, were The Living Bibles of their day, an interpretive paraphrase of Scripture. They help us see how these first-century Jews understood their TaNaKh.One of the striking things these Targums show is that first century Jews had come to understand the phrase "the Word of God" as referring to a divine entity within God Himself, yet distinguishable at times from God. The Aramaic word 'Memra', which means the ‘Word’ or ‘The Word of the Lord’, is used when physical manifestations of God appear or when God is mentioned more than once in the same verse. There is another person of God that is manifesting in the scripture visibly and very distinct to God the Father and the Jewish people have been seeing this manifestation, not by Holy Spirit nor from the Prophets but God himself showing directly to the Israelites. Genesis 3:8 -
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden.
Exodus 24:10 - and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank Genesis 28:20 - And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If the Word [Memra] of YHVH will be my support, and will keep me in the way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Word [Memra] of Lord be my God. Genesis 22:14 - And Abraham worshipped and prayed in the name of the Word [Memra] of YHVH, and said, "You are Lord who does see, but You cannot be seen." John have taken the word MEMRA which means the WORD which is another being or person of God that is manifesting in the Old Testament. And John have placed Jesus Christ to the MEMRA of the Old Testament. As John is inspired by the Holy Spirit and what he had written is the Philosophy of Heaven as expressed in his Gospel But there is another Philosophy of Greece who have taken this same source which we know him as Philo of Alexandria to him The WORD is also a God but a God who is just created This is the ideology taken by Lyneous who is the teacher of Arius Which is now being used by the UNITARIAN . 2 Peter 1:20 - In this verse Peter was talking about Jesus humanity that he is in our midst speaking of the truth and grace , The WORD that become Flesh but it does not stating about Jesus divinity Which is the WORD that John was trying to expressed. The MEMRA or the WORD was the one being seen in the OLD Testament and the Unitarian have no concept of it that is why they keep twisting and misinterpreting The very prologue of John. JOHN 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
This video is twisting the context of the whole Chapter. Read the whole chapter to understand the context of whan John was revealing to us. You are jumping from one passage to another and misleading people. The subject of the whole chapter was THE WORD which is JESUS CHRIST. Pray for spiritual guidance before you read the scripture otherwise you will be mislead. In this chapter, verse per verse are connected to point from the Word - Light - Life - Him -Born of God Jesus.
God enlighten us all...
(John Chapter 1)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same (the Word) was in the beginning with God. (Subject is the Word:Jesus)
3 All things were made by him (Subject is the Word:Jesus); and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him(Jesus) was life; and the life(Jesus) was the light(Jesus) of men.
5 And the light(Jesus) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light(Jesus), that all men through him might believe.
8 He(John) was not that Light(Jesus), but was sent to bear witness(John) of that Light(Jesus).
9 That was the true Light(Jesus), which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He(Jesus) was in the world, and the world was made by him(Jesus), and the world knew him not.
(NOTE: Jesus was in the world)
11 He(Jesus) came unto his own(mankind), and his own(mankind) received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he(Jesus) power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name(Jesus):
13 Which(Jesus) were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Nobody else were born of God except (Jesus)
14 And the Word(Jesus) was made flesh(Jesus), and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(The main subject in this chapter is THE WORD, THE LIGHT, THE LIFE, THE NAME THAT SHOULD BE BELIEVED, THE ONE THAT WAS BORN OF GOD and He is JESUS)
I'm sorry I didn't tickle your itching ears. I'm just not into that type of thing.
I understand that there is a scripture here and there that would make a trinitarian think, "SEE! Jesus is God!! Ha Ha Gotcha!", buuuuuuuuuuut, not only are those scriptures easily explained, but how about all of the many many "GOTCHA!" scriptures that prove he is NOT God? lol It's a total cringe when they STILL can't accept it.
If Jesus sits at the right hand of GOD, are there three or four hands? One for Jesus, one for the Father, one for the Holy Spirit with no name, and one for all three of them together, the Triune Being? That's four hands. God doesn't have hands? How do you know? He mentions them in scripture. His spirit is his hand that does his will. Jesus has hands. Is he sitting at his own right hand? Rediculous Trinitarian Contradiction and reprobate minded thinking. Jesus is the son of God and only the Father is Who we call GOD. GOD is a who of one, not a what, not a group name of four to five persons with godlike power. Trinitarians would be less reprobate if they would just embrace their polytheism they are lying about.
Jesus Was not a prophet . He was more . What did Jesus say of John , Jesus is the spirit of prophecy , 1 John 5:20 . Jesus was God in him . Jesus did not say I Am , but said John is . Joshua was the one who came after Moses . justsaying Jesus was the right hand of God . I know no one who was given so much.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
explain (Hebrews 9:24) if Jesus is God?
It says Christ Entered into Heaven to what ? (Appear) in the (PRESENCE) of who? (GOD) ON OUR beahalf. So after Jesus died on Earth and went back to (Heaven) what God Almighty did Jesus appear before?
(Exodus 6:3) King James Bible is God
Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Why father son and spirit. Why baptise like this?
Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!"
Why does the Father not send his own Spirit?
Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Who is the US here?
Exo 3:14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.' "
Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."
Joh 8:59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Why did the Jews want to stone Jesus?
Then all the verses about Jesus being the creator. When we know there was no one with God, when he created everything.
Isa 44:24 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I am the LORD, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;
Job 9:8 He alone spreads out the heavens, And treads on the waves of the sea;
Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
@@tiffanywright6653 Good points.
@@theun4giv3n thank you
@@theun4giv3n (Plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
(luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son
(John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.Amen
@@theun4giv3n Jesus is Gods Son/(Arch)Angel do you want scriptures indicating that? Ill send them to you so you can open your bible and read them
The Logos, the Word, was God!!! John 1:1 Any true God was NEVER before or AFTER HE WAS GOD: 'before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me' Isaiah 43:10; this means that no word, of God or otherwise, could be God being that that word would have come after any true God. The Holy Spirit gave people the spirit of prophecy whether in the Old Testament or New; the Holy Spirit was not that word of prophecy. The Logos became flesh John 1:1, 14. As John was a prophet and more MATTHEW 10 so also was JESUS a prophet and more; THE HOLY THING THAT WAS BORN OF MARY WAS THE SON OF GOD, LUKE 1:32, 35, John 10:32-37; in the New Testament 'He takes away the first, that he may establish the second' Hebrews 10:9 Jesus would be the God Almighty, the JUDGE OF THE whole earth, John 5:22 'for the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son...and has given him authority to execute judgment also' John 5:27 'All authority is given me in heaven and in earth'!!!!!!
You have much to learn. "The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth.... has fixed a day in which HE will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom HE has appointed; and of this HE has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead." Acts 17:24,31. WHO will judge the world? God the Father will judge the world. HOW will He judge the world? By means of a human being He has appointed.
The Son has said this: 'for the Father judges no man but has committed all judgment to the Son' John 5:22 iN THAT THE FATHER WILL JUDGE ALL MEN BY THE ONE MAN it is true that the Father judges by that one man but the Father does not himself do the judging nor the executing of the judgment 'and has given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man' John 5:27 so it is proper to emphasize whom Scripture and the Father emphasizes: the Son 'that all men should honor the Son, as the honor the Father' John 5:23 before this the Son could not be known by name except as LORD AND EVEN THEN NOT CLEARLY AS GOD'S EQUAL FOR WORSHIP AS GOD HAD MADE CLEAR TO THE HEBREWS Ex.20:3.
Yes, he (God) will judge the world by this one man Jesus but it will be the ONE MAN JESUS who will do the actual judging 'for the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment to the Son' whY? that all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father' John 5:23. Why is God emphasized in Acts 17:24,31 because the listeners knew of God through whom the speaker would introduce the Son whom God wanted honored EQUAL TO HIMSELF!!! Please context is important!!!!
explain (Hebrews 9:24) if Jesus is God?
It says Christ Entered into Heaven to what ? (Appear) in the (PRESENCE) of who? (GOD) ON OUR beahalf. So after Jesus died on Earth and went back to (Heaven) what God Almighty did Jesus appear before?
(Exodus 6:3) King James Bible is God
There is One God, the Bible says in both Old and New Testament, Isaiah 43:10.
In Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
It appears it is singular. But if you continue reading the Bible interprets there is more than one (being) because in verse 26 it’s says “Let US make man in OUR image. (Plural).
At this point we do not know who the Us or Our are. We need the Bible to interpret it for us.
Matthew, Mark and Luke are synoptic books, the same stories but from three different views, they are a witness to one another.
The book of John is different. Most of what is written in John can only be found in John. It was written that his disciples would believe John 20:30
The book of John is a revelation, witness or commentary to Genesis 1.
John begins with “in the beginning”, taking you back to the beginning, to expand or reveal who God is.
(The beginning is also the beginning of generations (genealogy). The oldest male back to the beginning. )
Examples: Genesis 5, Matthew 1:1, Luke 3:23 and John 1:1.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word (Jesus) was with God (Father), and the Word (Jesus) was God (the Son).
2 The same (Jesus) was in the beginning with God (Father).
3 All things were made by him (Jesus); and without him was not any thing made that was made.
There are two being revealed here. The Word (Jesus) who was with his Father in the beginning. This is the US and OUR in Genesis.
The reason this is not taught in churches is because it proves the doctrine of “Trinity” a lie.
What most do not realize, is the book of John, takes us back to the beginning of Genesis and there Jesus introduces us to HIS Father.
In John the word Father is written over 100 times and is used with a capital “F” unlike the OT, it’s only mention one time and when capitalized in the NT it’s always referring to Jesus’ (heavenly) Father.
If you read the book of John from beginning to end, you will see the Father & Son and their relationship & positions, it explains God in the beginning and the Fathers Spirit is a witness.
In 1John 1 is a commentary of John from the apostles) That (Jesus) which was from the beginning, which we (apostles) have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life (Jesus);
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life,
WHICH WAS WITH THE FATHER, AND WAS MANIFEST INTO US;)
(Notice this Father & Son were in the beginning)
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye (you) also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
There is two beings not one.
There is One God.
For this to simply make sense is to realize God created the family and we are identified by our last names, just like Adam & Eve.
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Perfect picture and example everyone can understand (the design of the family).
It’s religion that makes it difficult because they are all deceivers by the “Trinity” doctrine.
Also, the Bible says that the husband and wife become one.
We are two members of one and the same family, same last name.
Ephesians 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
There is one family of God in heaven. Here is scripture.
The Father is God (the NT tells us, and Jesus sits at his right hand).
God the Father calls Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he (the Father) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, (His Father)hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
The Son is God (Emmanuel, God with us referring to Jesus, which was prophesied in Isaiah 7:14. Jesus is the Son of God and he is God. The Bible tells us.
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Abba (name). Father (position) God
Jesus (name). Son (position) God
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God (Father).
Two members = One family!
John 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Jesus was equal in nature but not in position, Jesus said the Father and I are one, but he also said the Father is greater than I.
I believe the Holy Ghost is the Fathers Spirit. These three The Father, Son & Holy Spirit agree as one.
Jesus while on earth needed the power of his Fathers Spirit living in him and so do we, and through baptism we receive this gift.
If John 1:1 is a genealogy it proves the Trinity false. Only the Father and the Word are present. In 1 John 1 the Holy Spirit is not mentioned.
Now that said, what I believe the Bible teaches is that Jesus was the creator of all things.
John 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. Jesus spoke all things into being. The Lord of the Old Testament is the Lord Jesus of the New Testament. One Lord!
Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
John 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord (Jesus), to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
The Father used his Son to create all things. We do not see the Father in the OT we see the Lord God and all titles prophesying to the future as Jesus Christ.
The Almighty in Genesis is the Almighty in Revelation, written in red. (Jesus).
The I AM in Exodus 3:15 is the I AM in John (Jesus). I am the way, the truth and the life. I am the bread of life, I am the light of the world, etc.
The FIRST and LAST in Isaiah is the same FIRST and LAST, Alpha and Omega in Revelation, the beginning to the End.
The SAVIOUR in Isaiah is our Saviour Jesus Christ in the New Testament.
No one has seen the Father, he is an invisible God (John 1:18, 5:37, 6:46) Moses and the seventy saw Jesus. Melchizedek was Jesus the high priest of God and further revealed in Hebrews. The rock in the wilderness was Christ the NT reveals.
1 Cor. 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Jesus is the Lord God of the OT that comes to reveal his Father in the NT.
The Holy Spirit is not a third person but the Fathers Spirit, in Jesus, that they give to those who ask!
Jesus never claimed to be God. Proverbs 8:22-31 and Colossians 1:15-20 this shows Jesus was created. We cannot ignore some scriptures because its convenient to a theology like the Trinity. The lie of the trinity started back in Babylon with Nimrod his mother- who became his wife and the new born from that marriage,,,Nimrod- the son reincarnated.... this became the Teaching of 3 gods in 1... constinople or Constantine adopted common pagan beliefs he shared into what you now teach as Christianity. However there is nothing Christ like about it. Dec 25 is not christs birthday nor id jews celebrate birthdays due to its roots in paganism and selfishness. You see God is love and love is giving. Selfishness is the opposite of love. Easter also adopted from pagans...from the goddess ishtar. Halloween also can have its roots traced back to satanic worship. Do you really think Jesus would be happy to see everything his Father condemned being happily adapted into a religion using his name? Remember the money tables? There is another side to the Christ and thats his zeal for his Fathers house. All in good fun you may say... but thats mans thoughts not Gods. Do your research and stop teaching the lie of the Trinity
Shawn Rogers obviously you didn’t read the post
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
@@rhondahauser6443 Christ is very much like God due to being the first creation of the Father which happened before the earth and heavens were created. However he never claims to be God only the son of God. John 17 clearifys the " we are 1" by explaining he wants the apostles all to be one like the father and son are one. Not one as the same person but actively pursuing the same purpose in unity.
Shawn Rogers Explain Matthew 1:23
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
Jesus was just a prophet. According to this reasoning, Muslims were right all along.
Odd how you concluded something I never said.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I don’t understand how the word of God became flesh (Jesus), and yet the Word of God you’re saying isn’t Jesus. Please forgive me, I was a Jehovah’s Witness, I’ve now left, and I’m learning a lot of scriptural beliefs which JW hid from us with their New World Translation. There’s many verses which they literally changed to remove any hints of the deity of Jesus. I can understand the idea that Jesus also shares the nature of God being the Father’s son, but I also can see the pagan concept, namely the 3 in 1. I’m 100% sure this is true when it comes to the Father, Mother, Child trinity. This can be dated back to Nimrod. But the Father, Son, Holy Spirit…I just feel like the unholy trinity with the mother is a clear counterfeit of the Holy Trinity. I’m just coming to grips with considering all possibilities at the moment. I’m battling some cognitive dissonance at the moment and mean no disrespect.
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
The Trinity is a descriptive word that teaches the Nature of the One True God, Yahweh.
Again the Trinity is a descriptive word describing what the Bible teaches in the Old Testament and New Testament about the nature of The One True God, Yahweh, who function through three distinct extension or person who a parts of Himself; The One God Yahweh is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are not three other gods; The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is who the One God, Yahweh is. What the Trinity described is in the Old Testament and The New Testament.
📖 Read: Philippians 2:5-9 - Jesus is God but not the Father.
Because Jesus is God; He is the Word.
Because Jesus who is God emptied Himself of His Divine Power to become man; Jesus prayed to the Father. If Jesus had not separated from the Father, He would not be praying to The Father, because The Father, The Son and Spirit is who the One God Yahweh is.
📖 Read: Hebrew 1:5-12 - Jesus is not an Angel; and God teaches us Jesus is God.
📖 Read: Isaiah 53 - The Prophesy of who Jesus is.
📖 Read: Revelation 1-8 - God is Alpha and Omega.
📖 Read: Revelation 22:13 - Jesus say He is Alpha and Omega.
For Facts, Evidence and Truth on the Trinity research:
1. A Muslim through evidence accepted the Trinity, Nabeel Qureshi.
2. An Atheist through evidence accepted the Trinity, J. W. Wallace.
3. John Lennox
4. Frank Turek
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⭐️ John 1:1 is the opening verse of the Gospel of John in the New Testament, and it reads:
📖 John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
⭐️ This verse is significant for several reasons, often seen as a foundational statement about the nature of Jesus Christ and His relationship to God. Let's break it down phrase by phrase:
1. **"In the beginning was the Word"**:
- **"In the beginning"** refers to the time before creation, echoing the opening phrase of Genesis 1:1 ("In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth"). This indicates that the Word existed before anything was created.
- **"the Word"** (in Greek, "Logos") is a term used here to refer to Jesus Christ. In Greek philosophy, logos could mean reason, principle, or plan, among other things. In Hebraic thought, it often referred to God's spoken word, His creative power, and self-revelation. John uses "the Word" to describe Jesus as the divine agent of creation and revelation.
-- 2. **"and the Word was with God"**:
- This phrase emphasizes a distinction between the Word and God. The Word was in a close relationship with God, implying personal interaction and fellowship.
-- 3. **"and the Word was God"**:
- This climactic statement asserts the deity of the Word. Despite the distinction in relationship expressed in the previous phrase, John makes it clear that the Word's nature is fully and completely divine.
⭐️ In summary, John 1:1 establishes that Jesus (the Word) is eternal, existing before creation, is in a close relationship with God, and is, in essence, fully God. This verse plays a crucial role in Christian theology, especially concerning the Trinity, that describes their is only One God, who within His nature is the Father, Son and Spirit; also John 1:1 teaches Jesus is both fully divine and fully human.
The Trinity Delusion Its funny your belief system comes from our Judaism
but there is not a single religious jew on all the earth who will agree with you that David is being worshiped. This is a horrible distortion of our scriptures. Please walk into any Synagogue and ask to speak to a rabbi concerning your statement. I can assure you they will all be horrified at your translation of scripture because it is plain wrong. People would prostrate themselves before a king as this was done, it does not mean they are praising him. 1 Kings 1:23
They told the king, saying, "Here is Nathan the prophet." And when he came in before the king, he prostrated himself before the king with his face to the ground. Nathan here is not worshiping the King its just what was done . To call Nathan a pagan idol worshiper here would be wrong. And the same applies to Israel prostrating themselves before David. In fact to make sure The assembly knew they were praising God and not him he announced loudly NOW GIVE PRAISE TO YOUR LORD AND GOD. notice he did not announce NOW GIVE PRAISE TO YOUR LORD AND GOD AND TO ME KING DAVID. NO he first has them praise God and then do homage to the king but in the second part there is no praise to him but prostration just as Nathan did to his King. Its mind boggling how you interpret this as David worship but then i guess you have to in order for your idol worship to fit in with revelations. You see in revelations the lamb does not make an announcement to give praise to THE lORD YOUR GOD, NO here it is different as the lamb is given praise by all creation directly as if he is one YHWH which he is. The lamb does not reject this praise and just as John fell at his feet he did not say stand up dont worship me i am just a servant. No he does not reject this as the other 2 angels said when John fell at there feet and they said . Do not worship us we are servants like you. wORSHIP GOD only. So we see clearly the lamb is different to David as he accepts this worship unlike a mere servant he is not only the suffering servant in the flesh but also Yhwh, Thats why there is no contradiction here. But to have this happen to a prophet would contradict the angels and yhwh as a man would be worshipped. You cannot twist scripture to defend your paganism, Polytheism and idolatry is forbidden but you indulge in this horrible practice. You should repent.
Use your head. They performed the same act before God and David at the same time. You seem to be completely in the dark concerning the purpose and function of God's Christ King David.
@@TheTrinityDelusion David is not being worshiped here. This is your one man interpretation of this scripture against thousands of years of rabbinic law and you have the audacity to say i must use my head ? Now since my stance is in strict accordance with Jewish law i can assure you David was not being worshiped . Your religion comes from Judaism so i suggest you do some research to at least give you a small grasp of what monotheism means to us. If you dont believe me walk into any of the Rabbinical scholars and accuse them of being wrong about this and insist that David was being worshiped. I promise you you will be so embarrassed. The entire Yeshiva will not stop laughing at how daft you are. You are an Idolater plain and simple you cannot twist the scriptures to say David was being worshiped. The stupidity of this statement defies Logic. Study the Shema
You are claiming that all my ancestors at the assembly before David were worshiping Him making my ancestors Idolators. How absolutely insolent and ignorant can you get after it is the Shema that started all your religions in the first place . You copy our one God worship and then bite the hand that fed you and call us idolaters. This is beyond repugnant. Stop your Idol worship now. Repent.
@@LONGMAN772 So when it says they bowed down before Yahweh and David, it means David is not being worshiped here in this act but God is being worshiped in this same act. Is that about right? Let me guess, when this word is used of God or Jesus it means they are being "worshiped" but if it is anyone else it doesn't. And let me also guess that you argue that the use of the word with Jesus means he is God but when used of David it doesn't. Is that about right? And what does the following translation say?
"20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. KJV
@@TheTrinityDelusion I dont know what bible you use but i urge you to go to a local synagogue or yeshiva and look at this verse in the Torah scroll, you will find no such word as worship being used, all will have prostrate themselves[not worship] and the the commentaries in Hebrew will clarify as pay homage to. This verse you quote is not correct at all, very bad translation. You need to go to the source or you get misled and wind up in Idol worship. Its not your fault.
Here is my bible verse from Torah
20 And Dovid said to kol HaKahal, Barchu nah es Hashem Eloheichem. And kol HaKahal blessed Hashem Elohei Avoteihem, and bowed down, and fell prostrate before Hashem and before HaMelech.
worship
תָעָבְדֵ֑ם֒ (ṯā·‘ā·ḇə·ḏêm) this is worship in hebrew
bow down
this is bow down in hebrew
תִשְׁתַּחֲוֶ֥֣ה (ṯiš·ta·ḥă·weh)
David was not being worshipped
Two of the most misunderstood beings in the entire universe are the creator GOD and the other misunderstood being is the creator GOD's only begotten Son. Some people think they are both the same being just different personalities of the same one being and they think there is another personality as well called God the Holy Spirit. Three persons or personalities in one being or one substance. Then there is the belief that God is one being with a single personality who is the great pretender and acts out three parts. Then there is the one being single person God who creates an angel and calls the created being His Son. These are just three ways that people deny that GOD has an only begotten literal Son and deny that GOD is literally a FATHER. Another way is the belief that there are three coequal coeternal unrelated devine beings and each being a separate person with a separate personality who at a point in times drew straws to see who would play the role of the unbegotten pretend Son of God they refer to as God the Son. One group who believe the last way is in transition from the three Gods to the three person one being God and the founders of the organization believed in a one being single person God who literally begat a preincarnated divine literal only begotten Son who He sent and gave who became a man through the incarnation in the womb of Mary. They believed the literal only begotten Son was the primary creator of heaven and earth with the help of his literal Father then they switched to believing that the one playing the role of God the Son was the primary creator God with the help of the other two role playing Gods and the ones who are changing their theologies again believe that the three in one God is the creator and the creator second person crawled inside a human body and either one third of God died or pretended to die. The term 'WORD' in John 1 is believed to be the creator and is considered to be one third of God or an acted out role of God or one of three role playing Gods or a created lesser god or the literal only begotten Son of the only true God but very few believe that the 'WORD' is the though spoken by GOD in creation and spoken through prophets and through HIS literal only begotten Son who He (GOD tore from His own bosom). There is only one God and Father of all and the Father of an only begotten Son, and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus. The creator God in Isaiah 44:24 said He made everything by Himself and alone so all those who say He didn't or claim He isn't a real Father or claim He doesn't really have an only begotten Son are doing the same thing the serpent (Satan) did and are calling God a liar!
But all things were made thru Jesus according to scripture. Also in Revelation Jesus said he is alpha and omega and no God is beside him. So that leaves two views left already.
@@jipped18 watch RUclips video entitled, 'did Jesus create everything?' by disciple John. Then see if you have the same opinion.
@@a.lavernefilan1888 No video changes what scripture states according to new testament Greek and KJV English. God created the Son(copied himself) or essentially gave himself a way to be viewed physically/spiritually by us.
If you believe he is a literal second person it contradicts God/Jehovahs statement. He does not share his glory. Also Jesus is the name above all names in Heaven and Earth.. How can the Son be worshipped by Angels, and be the name above God? Because he is God.
Jews killed him because he claimed to be God or equal to him. But again, he has no equal?
The word was with God and the word was God and the Word was made flesh. Jehovah witnesses couldn't translate that properly when it is agreed on according to atheist theology professors and many denominations of Christianity.
Also, why does this guy look so miserable and look dead? Doesn't look like the holy spirit dwells in this guy at all.
Jesus is Gods Son that's it Not (God Almighty the Creator) Let's take a Look at the Bible and see what it Says
1. Then why is God head of Christ just as Christ is Head of man? (1st coriethians 11:3)
2.) Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a Separate person from God? (John 20:17); (John 14:1); (Mark 10:18); (John 17:1-3), Also in Heaven, (Luke 22:69)
3.) Then how can Jesus have a god? (Micah 5:4), (pslams 45:6, 7; 89:26, John 20:17; (Romans 15:6;2), (Coriethians 1:3, Eph. 1:3; (Col. 1:3) (Mark 15:34); (John 17:1-3) Also in heaven (Rev. 1:6; 3:3, 12)
4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and part of creation? (Colessians 1:15)
5. Then why does (Rev. 3:14) Say that Jesus was the beginning of the Creation by God?
6. Then why is he subject to god like we are subject to him? (1st Cor. 15:27,28); (Eph. 1:17)
7. Then why does (Micah 5:2) say that Jesus Origin was from Early times?
8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matthew 24:36,) (Rev. 1:1); (Luke 8:45)
9. Then why is Jesus still subject to (god) when he is as high as he will ever be? (1st Cor. 15:27,28)
10. Then why does (Proverbs 8:22-31) show that the Messiah was created/Produced by God?
11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1st Cor. 15:27); (Eph. 1:17,22)
12. Then why would he have to be given any power & authority? (Matthew 28:18; 11:27; (John 5:22; 17:2; 3:35;) (2nd 1:17)
13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Hebrews 5:8), (John 5:19; 8:28)
14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Matthew 12:31, 32;); (Luke 12:10)
15. Then why did Jesus Call the Father the Only True God? (John 17:3)
16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Hebrews 5:7); (John 12:27)
17. Then why did he have to be exalted to leader & savior? (Acts 5:31)
18. Then how can he be exalted and (Given) a higher name then he had? (Philippians 2:9-11); (Hebrews 1:2-4)
19. Then why did he have to be given Life in himself? (John 5:25, 26)
20. Then how could his Father be Greater then he and not equal trinity? (John 14:28)
21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan in(Matthew 4:10) when God cannot be tempted by Evil (James 1:13)
22. Then why did Jesus (Worship) the Father (John 4:22)
23. Then why can he not do anything of his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)
24. Then why would Jesus pray to Anybody? (Luke 22:44; ) (John 17:1,2)
25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1st John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's only Begotten Son?
26. Then how can Jesus be God's servant? (Acts 4:26, 27,30)
27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)
28. Then how could he be the mediator between God & man? (1st Timothy 2:5)
29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)
30. Then how could he be God's image? (Col. 1:15;) (Hebrews 1:3)
Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the originator (ek)? (1cor. 8:6); (John 1:1-3); (Prov. 8:30) (Hebrews 2:10); (Col. 1:15, 16)
32. Then why did Jesus say God was good in a way that Jesus was not?(Mark 10:18)
33. Then why does Jesus have the voice of the Archangel and not the voice of God? (1st thess. 4:16)
34. Then why is the only worship given to him the same given to humans ? (Heb. 1:6) (Matt. 18:26;); (Rev. 3:9)
35. Then why do many who believe and rely on a few so called proof texts instead of the context of the consisent teachings of the entire Bible?
36.then how can Jesus be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49), (deutronemy 18:18)
37. Then why did Steven see 2 separate entities God & Jesus and not just one god or 3 person's? (Acts 7:55)
38. Then how could Jesus be seen at God's right hand?(Luke 22:69); (Acts 7;55); (Romans 8:34)
39. Then how could Jesus be exalted not to become God himself, but to the position of the right hand of God?(,Acts 2:33)
40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God?(rev. 1:1)
41. Then why is he called God's begotten Son before he came to Earth? (John 3:16); (Galations 4:4), (1st John 4:9)
42. Then how could he have a father (John 20:17)
43. Then how could he come in Flesh? (1st Kings 8:27); (Acts 17:24, 25)
44. Then why did Jesus not come in his own Name? (John 5:41-44)
45. Then why did Jesus come down from Heaven to do God's will and Not His Own? (Luke 22:42); (John 6:38) (John 5:30) (John 8:42)
46. Then how could Jesus appear before God when he went back to (Heaven)? (Hebrews 9:24)
47. Then how could Jesus die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Romans 5:10); (Acts 5:30); (Habbuk 1:12); ,(1st time. 6:16); (Numbers 23:19) (1st Cor. 15:3); (Plsams 90:2); (Daniel 6:25-26)
48. Then why is it that God ressurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32) (Acts 5:30)
(Romans 10:9,10)
49. Then why can we see him if No Man has seen God at any time? (John 1:18)
50. Then why is there not one clear scripture where Jesus is called God the Son, (Equal to those declaring God the Father)
51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but niether the Jewish officials nor even one of those false witnesses made a claim that Jesus was God or Equally god? (Matthew 26:59-67)
52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe that Jesus is Christ, the son of God. Why is there no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the Most important thing of all that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)
@@jipped18 looks scary and is angry. NT is very difficult. Other statement is that God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man. Does not make sense if only one personality. And was Jesus praying himself or crying for himself?
Logos is a Greek word that means "thought", "Idea" etc. for 500 years before Jesus was born. Christians have twisted the Greek to say what they want. read Plato on Logos.