Vintage Chanel Bags : Did they use FAKE LEATHER?
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2023
- Is this a real Chanel bag? The exterior leather was good, but what we found on the inside made me doubt the authenticity of the bag (despite verification by Entrupy). This bag was sent to us by The Luxury Leather Guys.
At first glance, the inside material looked like real leather- but the acetone application revealed it was fake leather. I do not know enough about Chanel's earlier manufacturing to conclude if the bag is fake or if using fake leather was an actual business practice.
At Chanel's level, it wouldn't be difficult to use real leather on the inside, and that's why the use of fake leather there set off concern for the bag's authenticity and the methods used by authenticating systems.
Overall, the bag was pretty well made. Exterior leather was good for it's age, but it could have used better care and condition by the previous owner (some cracking). The fake leather interior however, is not what I would expect to find in a luxury leather bag.
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This is why a lot of the vintage Chanel pieces will be sticky inside the pockets. The PU degrades over time. It’s a shame and definitely not “luxury” 😂
That's gross. I know that feeling.
When I was younger in the 2000s and thrifting a lot I would come across this often , thanks for explaining !
Yes LV was doing same, I have some vintage pieces which has this sticky inside. It is shame.
How do you remove the sticky spots?
Arnault at it again. Slipping plastic in all his brands. Ty for the verification.
I can't speak to this particular bag, but I can say that when I worked Customs for eleven years I spent the first year constantly calling the design houses to verify authenticity. I was constantly encountering products that were combination materials purchased in the thousands of dollars. They honestly looked and felt like fakes. The design houses eventually called back and told us they were real, so we shipped them to the customers. * Shrugs* Fake has become the standard, which is why I started crafting quality products with REAL leather and selling it. People deserve better.
Can you tell which brands used pu-leather? This is very interesting 🤔
Thank you - I despise these cheap fake leather PU products at Birkin prices. I have always found Chanel to be cheap, and borderline tacky. The only worse brand in my opinion is Louis Vuitton. I will not pay those prices for a canvas bag the color of sh*t.
when I went to my local bag spa the owner says that vintage chanel do use PU leather for the inside and they often came totally chipped. And he also says that all chanel gabrielle use PU too on the strap chain😂 He says every time a chanel bag came for repair the problem is always on the fake leather on the chain😢😢
it’s LV
I have always wondered about the leather inside Chanel classic flaps. When I bought mine several years ago it felt suspicious to me. The burgundy leather inside has always felt like fake leather to me. Ive had my doubts since then. Would love to see you deconstruct a classic flap one day. As always thank you for your honest videos. It’s definitely made me think twice about continuing to purchase so called luxury bags. I was already beginning to feel turned off to all of it but I believe watching your videos has sealed the deal for me.
I think in the classic flaps it’s always leather
@@Gotchalaboom I really hope so. There’s really no way to know for sure unless it’s taken apart and I’m definitely not doing that! 😝
@@joycec8852 I think Chanel is honest about it (at least now, with all sorts of products and consumer laws) what the bag is made of. The one thing i find tricky, as Tanner points out, crappy leather covered with a thick (plastic) finish, you will never know for sure if you have top notch leather
@@Gotchalaboom you’re right! I had an idea of plastic coating on some leathers like LV does on its canvas but never really looked into it. These videos have been an eye opener for me as far how much or how little of a coating and how it can disguise the quality or lack there of of the leather.
@@joycec8852 It’s actually very easy to tell if you work with leather and understand how to identify it
Actually seeing a Chanel bag picked to pieces just laying on the table really puts designer bags in perspective. Any bag ripped up just becomes a pile of pieces. Why we all pay so much for just bits put together….🤦🏼♀️!?
Cause women are easily manipulated. In the USA most ads are geared toward women, although men hold significant amounts of the wealth.
@@tomevers6670that's because a lot of men buy those purses as gifts for women, most of whom are probably not their wives.
@@tomevers6670 Insert male obsession with sports cars. It's how the masses are being controlled.
@tomevers6670 Lol men are easily manipulated as well, just in different ways. Just look at how much money has been spent and how much harm has been brought to the world by men believing in bogus, ineffective "alternative" treatments for male virility.
I literally shrieked when he started to pull it apart. But yeah it is just a pile of pieces and it becomes way less appealing.
Was felling bad for the bag, then furious for the fake materials. Thanks for the video!
Exactly how I’m feeling!!!
I have some vintage Chanel handbags, they use a vinyl in those old handbags. Yes, you could also refer to it as PU. A lot of them had leather, like goat, but there were some that had that vinyl. More modern Chanel use mostly a fabric lining. They say it’s to keep the bag as light a possible, however, I would prefer a leather lining. Thank you for the deconstruction 🫶
It's simply to save money, goat lining in small bag would add NEGLIGIBLE weight. They just bullshit us.
I feel like Chanel totally used PU leather back then to line their bags. It was the 90s and that sounds like it would’ve been right up their alley. 😂 Honestly wouldn’t be the first time a luxury brand used cheaper products just to turn around and charge triple the price.
I had a vintage Chanel canvas tote that was lined with PU. It’s from the 90’s - early 2000’s, can’t remember the exact date it was originated. I took it to a reputable vintage luxury store in Paris and sold it to them, as I didn’t get any use of it. They commented the bag had an PU interior and they rarely take in Chanel bags that are made of fake leather, the reason partly being they don’t like the smell of it and the fake leather scent would probably escalate into the whole room/ store. Hearing that from the luxury goods experts, so apparently there was a period of time Chanel did use PU on their bags.
In the early 90’s that bag was nowhere near $4k. Today based on what your findings are, the price preloved is very reasonable.
From the research that I have done, Chanel definitely used PU lining in some of their vintage bags.
And people pay thousands of dollars to show off the brand.
It’s not about showing off. If you don’t get the personal side of fashion, then that’s on you. Some people wear it for themselves.
@@bluebanisters2889 well part of it is to show off wouldn’t you say?
Out of passion and love for the art, people create things, then the other part of it is they share it, therefore, “showing it off“. I’d say it’s quite uncommon for someone to spend such time and effort to make something only for it to be kept hidden or thrown away right?😂
Kind of like when we are at home by ourselves, or our family, and not going anywhere then we wouldn’t exactly dress up, style our hair and put on perfume would we? Most people would want to try to look nice and presentable, in a way, “showing off”.
Whether you’d want to go so far and call it showing off then that’s up to the individual, and whether they’d care to “defend” themselves no? 😂
@@WabbleDeeDabbleDee not to be hidden, but to wear if for oneself, not for others. The point is that not everyone wears expensive brands to say “I have lots of money”
@@bluebanisters2889 yeah I guess that’s true too, most of the time we will always wear something that we feel is pleasing to our own eyes or for just plain comfort or practicality.
But of course, there’s the few that will wear uncomfortable and expensive clothes just to try and show they have lots of money like you said 😂
Some people don’t pay thousands of dollars. You just gotta know where to look 😉
looking for Chanel interior info, classic flaps should always have leather linings, others typically silk/canvas lining but quick research shows some seasonal bags have been lined in vinyl - will update if find more! hmmm, found this "Most often the issue with very old bags is the inside more than the outside - pockets tend to get sticky and the lining can deteriorate"
I came across your videos absolutely best educational on leather goods. Thanks Tanner. I absolutely love your hampton babylon blue lamb skin handbag. Soft and luxurious.
Fake leather lasted 30 years is impressive too 🤣
I was thinking the same😂
it's a type of plastic so would not be surprised - makes one think about all the plastic around the world in landfills that does not decompose - France just implimented new laws regarding plastic
Now they collapsed after 20 min of wearing ……what a shame…..
😂😂
Yes, I was actually impressed. All my pu items started to peel after 4 or 5 years.
Both Chanel & LV used pu in the 90s in many of their lower end bags indicative of sticky pockets. Many of LVs basic clutches in the EPI leather from the 90s have PU inside
Some of the older LVs have bad vinyl lining that degrade in tropical climate...they should be forced to do a recall on some.bags and replace their products.
That was painful to watch. Fake leather interior is shocking, especially for a vintage luxury bag (I agree, maybe it was a good fake). Great info!
I was like what! Shocking
hopefully someone with knowledge can tell us if common, know a lot about hermes but no clue about Chanel!
Yes! I was super surprised too! I hope it's fake cuz I've been looking into vintage Chanel bags, but if the interior is PU, I'd be super disappointed ;__;
The bag is authentic. Owning Chanels for 2 decades now vintage and new.
@@jaks_bag_attack can you do a video on this?
Thank you for another informative video❤
Thats definitely authentic. Fakes were not mirror quality 30 years ago.
Thanks for the new video 😊
Thanks for the review, ❤, just to say as a Chanel customer/collector for decades, the bag you tested was a very cheap model. They really don’t cost very much at all. The inside of all my Chanel classic flap bags are all lined with butter soft Lambskin leather, which I have used for decades and still absolutely top notch quality. Over the years, I have bought cheaper models like yours, they are at least 3-5 times cheaper and as a customer, I don’t mind that, as they are meant to be cheaper models for me to throw things in. Having said that, I am shocked to see they have not disintegrated yet 😂 despite I don’t take care when using them. I won’t buy any Chanel bag post year 2017 onwards, the quality really had suffered irrespective which models you go for. If you have owned several vintage Chanel bags like me, I bought most of mine from Chanel boutiques, I can absolutely tell the difference without the need to ripping it apart 😂. Like any couture houses, they have cheaper models for a reason. The older models are absolutely superior in quality, plus I kept them well except those cheaper models 😂. I have moved on from buying bags from Chanel to Hermes, Gucci, Alexander McQueen, Launer, and Strathberry. Their leather products are consistently very high quality especially Hermes.
Also, as a luxury goods customer, it’s the beauty AND quality AND versatility AND colour AND hardware that matter. Unfortunately an ugly bag but well put together won’t fly because there are plenty of excellent choices out there. ❤❤❤
Ooh, fascinating! I can't wait to hear back on that authentication question.
I've owned Chanel bags vintage and newer ones for a decade. The bag in this video is the real deal.
please stop saying Tanner Leatherstein uses fake bags, just like that weirdo Super Dacob spreads lies that he deconstructed a fake Hermes Evelyn bag. People don’t want to believe their investments are not solid.
This reminds me of the huge amount of fakes that were circulating in Italy in the 90s.
I remember walking through Venice and seeing top quality replicas sold for 50$ by street vendors… don’t just assume that vintage equals real
nope I saw many authentic vintage chanel totally chipped on the inside at my local bag spa.
Great explanation of the deconstruction of this vintage Chanel bag. Can you please do a review on the Mulberry bags would be greatly appreciated 😊
I'm surprised this PU lasted this long. All the PU items (from clothing to furniture) I have ever purchased only lasted 4-5 years.
Unfortunately, nothing is made the way it used to be, but a $$$ purse should be put together better than what they're selling. I won't waste my money.
could you do a review on etienne aigner or Aigner Munich?? i just found your channel and have been binging your shorts and videos. love how your estimates compare to the price of luxury brands ❤
i love you so much! I recently just found your *yutulu* and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
I have several vintage chanel, 2 of them deteriorate inside lining. The shell everything is ok; i just cut the linning out i still use it
Don't think the reps are that good with craftsmanship even back 10 yrs ago. It might be now since the margins are higher and reps are getting better. I'm not surprised Chanel skims on inner lining, over all is a luxury brand with huge markups, they are not exactly artisan, is just a hyped up brand. Pure luxury is bespoke and customised, not marketed by celebs.
I wonder if PU leather would last that long if they truly used back then. But I did see videos of people complaining of new bags bought directly from the boutique that the handle broke and it exposed the material, and it didn't look like real leather
That is shocking that the inside is pu leather!
Wow. Not bad for PU leather. The quality is good that is admittable. But I'm very surprised they used PU inside!!! 😢
What kind of seam ripper is that I want it😊
I Learnt so much from this channel that i started developed interest in leather. i want to learn a skill in this trade whether its on authencity to craftmenship
Yikes! Thank goodness Ive move on from Lux market years ago! Thanks Tanner!
I’ve had a few older Chanel with a PU lining. I currently still have an older phone crossbody with P.U. ( also I currently have a Gucci with a peeling P.U. Lining). That lining shreds and/or sticks to itself over time. None of my newer post 90’s Chanel bags have a P U lining. My classic double flaps have a leather lining. I have some with fabric lining. I’m pretty familiar with many older Chanel but must admit I’ve never seen the design you have. Did it have a authentication tag inside?
Can you review the carel shoes?
This is crazy!! I had heard rumors that Chanel used to use fake leather. I wonder if they still do. Truly gross at that price point. And here I thought vintage quality was superior because it had real gold plating. Looks like Chanel is just not worth it imo.
Whats the red lonesome flap bag behind you
Please review Celine and Loewe! ❤
I can use the ripping sound as an ASMR 😊
Entrupy as an authentication service is unreliable. There have been many fakes passed as real by them. It's such a shame that such a beautiful bag has a low quality lining. Can anyone verify if it's actually a fake?
Oh No! Really? I recommended them after I purchased my vintage LV from @season2consign. I’m glad that they use multiple authentication resources for to verify their products. I’ve heard nothing but good things about Entropy.
What start up isn’t?😂
it looks fake to me, I have a similar model and this isn't the shape of the vintage bag.
Can you please do a review on the Songmont Song bag (bucket style) and the medium tote bag? I want to know how good their leather is compared to the Hermes. Thanks!
FYI, Songmont sells more affordable bags. As per their claim they use nice leather.
second this - i’m using a caviar tofu bag from songmont right now and have abused it for 2 months - threw it on gym floor etc - looks new - still! would love to see if the leather and hand craftsmanship is legitimate as they claim
After looking at your videos ,you have enlightened me with your findings .... TEDDY BLAKE BAGS FOR ME NOW they are beautiful.
Please do Montblanc leather goods
Berluti next!!
Wow, crazy!
How can I know the bag is original ?
Hi Volkan, I hope you're doing great. I have a question that I hope you can answer for everyone. I've acquired some handbags that I didn't know were more prone to scratches and dents than other cowhide materials. I noticed that my lamb skin and goat skin bags are more prone to scratches, scuffs, dents, etc.
What are the best ways to prolong life or minimize the damage to these types of softer/scratch-prone leather goods so that we can continue to use them for years to come?
Your insights on leather care for more sensitive types would be greatly appreciated so that we could all live more sustainably. Thank you in advance!
You have to be mindful of moisture, dirt, sue transfers from other fabrics. Stuff the bag to maintain the shape, don’t overfill it with heavy stuff, and if possible bro in a climate controlled environment, it if direct sunlight
Great video, but the price in the 90s were nowhere near 4k as you mention.
What was the cost?
This was a good 1 bc it was hard to break it down
How is Kate spade bag. Do review.
the lyxbag would be super cute during the fall with a nude or tan or even tonal outfit! i’m thinking a tan wool coat with that bag!!
The lyxbag canvas tote bag actually reminds me of Hermes Garden Party, too. Thanks for making this video on suggesting more budget friendly alternativ
It is the same fake leather of Chanel 22 bag...
ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE FRAME OF A VINTAGE LADY DIOR NYLON CANNAGE BAG IS MADE OF?? they all look slouchy on bottom/sides feeling like cardboard.
Is there no suspicion that the bag could be vintage but refurbished with PU interior? Might be able to tell from the craftsmanship, I dunno. but just throwing it out there.
wow i adore your craftmanship
hoping to have 1 of your piece from Riyadh Ksa x0x0
That poor little lamb wouldve been an old grandma sheep today you savages 😂
Just shock my life!!! And people out there still crazy for the vintage one and the price is still not make sense for me
I'm really surprised i thought it would've been better quality and certainly leather in the 90s
By Watching this. I’m going to adjust my brands. I want a good quality bag and briefcase that has good materials able to use better materials.
Can you try to deconstruct Senreve bag?
Or Jemma ?
I think that a test on Cr6 presence would be important on all the bags not Chanel in particular. Cr6 can develop under certain circumstances and It provokes allergies and sometimes cancer by contact to the users
I saw many vintage Chanel bag in bag spa whose inside are totallly chipped. The owner of this bag must have used this bag once or twice and left it in the shelf.😂
I'm not really the biggest leather guy in the world, I just like my leather wallet and I love craftmanship of items such as luxury goods because we're sort of predisposed to the idea that this expensive item from this brand must come with a story, and great artisan craft men must be behind these making them with love by hand, but today the only story on everyones mind when purchasing a luxury item is, "is this actually leather?" or "is this item even real?"
Just wondering where can I purchase any pieces of leather at the price? I seems to overpay mine. 🤔
Can you do hermes pretty please
Outside lambskin leather...inside PU leather - id say better, does not stain easy to clean, bag keeps shape better..
My vintage Chanel bags still look great...
So many talk about the art of creation, so few talk about the art of destruction.
Reminds me of first year anatomy in med school but less congealed blood.
There’s even ads in instagram Chinese voice showing high quality same material of Chanel “same as original “ i can’t believe instagram approved that ads.
You are the master of purse gore.
Loved the video,
However I am not sure of the bag’s authenticity due to the look of some of the hardware and it’s coloring, the font of the logo on the inner pocket and the zipper…. Would you mind asking a couple of people who authenticate professionally? 80’s and 90’s Chanel has a lot of good fakes, people who made them actually used good leather and quality materials so there are a lot of them today (Vintage Heriloom has a fabulous video about that from 6/7yrs ago).
P.s: I am not stating that the bag is fake due to the pu lining, as Chanel is now famous for cutting cots so nothing surprises me, it’s just that a friend has a very similar bag from the 90s and the hardware (specifically the logo zipper) looks quite different.
$3000 and they use fake leather, even 30 years ago. Further proof that “luxury” is a scam.
After those bags being tested, can you restore them to the conditions they were? Or they go to the bin? Please tell us. Thank you
This was my question. What happens to the bag after it’s been deconstructed?
He said before he reuses some of it to make new things
@@fortmacmom3122 I’m only new to the channel. Thanks for clearing that up.
Not gonna lie, this one hurt to see torn apart.
Is this true of the new bags also?
I hope you reconstruct these expensive bags after deconstruction. The bags are too pricey to be cut up
Hi ,GREAT vídeo for The Classic Chanel bag ,please ONE vídeo for The HERMÉS BIRKIN bag o kelly bag ,regards from Spain🎩⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Soooooo this is what today would be considered outlet, not retail, quality 😃
Less harsh on criticizing loll but still love you
Ooo I’m starting to appreciate my roots leather bags more and more now. Don’t need a “high end” brand name to have good quality leather. Seems quite the opposite 🤯
Can you pls do kate spade?
Question? Why do you think PU was used? Thank you for sharing ❤
He answers it in the video
As an Asian, I tried to bathe myself in designer purses in the 90’s. But I never got into Chanel; it seemed to be made for the thin, tall white woman 🤷🏻♀️. Loved Gucci & Louis. This channel has been eye opening. I hope to steer my 9 year old away from designer things. It should be noted that she and her friends say that things are “Gucci” when things are good 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️😊🥸
Daaaaang Chanel!!!!!
I hear the bag shriking...
No, Chanel bags were around USD1,000 each in the early '90s.
And now chanel has increased their price exponentially. Yikes.
And folks keep buying them with the crappy quality and overpriced bags.
Rest assured he can reline and see the bag back together.
If a 30 year old bag was made with a plastic material, think how much of plastic would be in a new Chanel bag at today's prices! The name brand Chanel and an outer piece of leather are paid for by customers. Very sad.
Thank you for your videos, they’re truly informative and an education nowhere else will teach me. This one blew my mind. I will not pay thousands of $$$$ for PVC fake leather. I’m bothered by that too, in fact furious especially from a “top” “luxury” brand, I’m expecting leather all over. LVMH makes so much money from us, why can’t they use genuine leather. This begs the question..how long have these luxury brands been lying to us?
Yes and there prices still going up
You do realize they sell bags for $20k plus every season? If your bad don’t have nfc chip, it’s not even expressive in their eyes😂
It can't be PU. PU only last a couple of years and then it breaks right?
only chanel knows for sure
seeing it being ripped.... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh can you still put it back together? please? I am just here for donations 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No! Don’t do it I want to buy it 😩!!!
The original cost of that Chanel bag in the 90s was not $4K.
I am curious, what was the original price of this bag at that time? 🤔 About $1K or lower?
A classic flap was 1150, and given that prices weren’t extremely crazy and a birkin was 2500 at tht point, this bag could not have exceeded 2000 at the time. He’s just pulling prices out of thin air at this point because he’s so anti Chanel.
@Mrs. VanB Most likely at the highest $1K.
@@curlykutie Okay thanks for the clarification. However, where did you get that he is so anti Chanel? 🤷🏾♀️ Okay, he made a mistake about the price, but that doesn’t mean he is anti Chanel. Doesn’t make sense at all.
@Kimia My first Chanel Classic a Flap was in the early 2000's and it was about $1500-$1800 at Neiman Marcus
it maybe fake like a really really good one
I am deeply hurt that that bag is younger than I am.
Entrupy is not 100%. I wouldn’t trust that. I’ve heard of so many fakes getting by entrupy. Also so many fake vintage out there smh 🤦🏽♀️
Did the bag come with a certificate?