Due to the troubles of her life Lady Ochiba has literally turned from a human being into a vengeful Spirit Yokai...! Wonderful acting on the actresses part.
This is a crucial scene. Through flashbacks the audience is told that there were two former rulers of Japan. * Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (who is based on Oda Nobunaga), who in the series is the father of Lady Ochiba (the mother of the heir). Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa is killed by Akechi Jinsai, (based on Akechi Mitsuhide), who is Mariko's father. * The next ruler of Japan is the Taikō, (based on Toyotomi Hideyoshi), who is the father of Lady Ochiba’s son, the heir. * In the series the killing of Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga) by Mariko’s father is considered by some characters to be a great disgrace. Mariko is berated by her husband, Buntaro, asking her to confess her father’s treachery. * However, in this scene Lady Ochiba says that she believes that Lord Toranaga was behind the killing of her father, Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga), the former ruler of Japan. - This is a huge revelation. Later statements by Toranaga support this idea where he tells Mariko that she needs to finish the mission of her father. * What is going on? Let’s go back to Akechi Jinsai, (based on Akechi Mitsuhide), who is Mariko's father. Over time many people in Japan have developed a positive view of Mitsuhide. There is a shrine to him with a statue and there are festivals celebrating his memory. * What happened? While it is accepted that Oda Nobunaga was a unifier of Japan, it is also recognized by many that he was a brutal tyrant. In the series the viewer can see Lady Ochiba’s father, Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga), cutting off the heads of Buddhist monks. - It has been speculated that this is one of several reasons why Oda Nobunaga was assassinated. * This leads to a bigger role for Toranaga as not only the final unifier of Japan but as a man of peace which he explains in his speech to Yabushige before his seppuku. - As I mentioned, earlier Toranaga tells Mariko that she needs to fulfill her father’s great purpose. What is that? To rid Japan of tyrants. Ishido, who controls Osaka castle, has all the leaders of the main families prisoner. Anyone who tries to leave will be killed. Mariko’s death by Ishido exposes this and it breaks Ishido’s tyrany. * The later defeat of Ishido in battle finishes Toranaga’s master plan, to remove the tyrants of Japan who have sewn division and to allow him to become Shogun which will create an era of peace (that will last for 250 years).
@@curio78 If you delved further, he was spoke by the marriage proposal and the ambition of Ishida, do you think if Ishida won Sekighara he would just stay still, if you read how Toyotomi achieve domination he would follow thesame footstep, it was a good choice during that time, go for the lesser devil between the two and pray.
Yes, it seems they're twisting the real history - either by making her the daughter instead of the niece of Oda Nobunaga (who in 1582 was after all forced into seppuku by Akechi Mitsuhide, called Akechi Jinsai here) or otherwise implying that her actual father Azai Nagamasa was killed together with Oda in 1582, and hence, also by Akechi - rather than (as would have been historical) being killed in 1573 not with, but BY his brother-in-law Oda.
@@chevalierdupapillon The real irony is that the person who was in charge at the siege of Odani castle...was Hideyoshi (in the book called Nakamura) 10 years later O-cha's mother was married to Shibata Katsuie History repeated itself and Hideyoshi forced both of them to seppuku This isn't a case of my father killed your father, it's more like the same guy killed both of my parents and both of your (Mariko's) parents...and then I married him and had two kids.
I think aristocratic ladies of Ancient Japan spoke like that, at least in formal settings. Mariko speaks naturally because we mostly see her in intimate setting but she too actually talks like that in public (for example during court audience with Lord Ishido)
For me she's JUST on the right side of the line between an over-hammed moustache-twirling villain and being a controlled but gleefully sadistic psychopath played properly. It's a very near thing, and I can see why she might be on the wrong side of the line for you, but for me her managing to be skin-crawlingly creepy despite her beauty and musical voice makes her an effective villain.
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Due to the troubles of her life Lady Ochiba has literally turned from a human being into a vengeful Spirit Yokai...! Wonderful acting on the actresses part.
This is a crucial scene. Through flashbacks the audience is told that there were two former rulers of Japan.
* Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (who is based on Oda Nobunaga), who in the series is the father of Lady Ochiba (the mother of the heir).
Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa is killed by Akechi Jinsai, (based on Akechi Mitsuhide), who is Mariko's father.
* The next ruler of Japan is the Taikō, (based on Toyotomi Hideyoshi), who is the father of Lady Ochiba’s son, the heir.
* In the series the killing of Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga) by Mariko’s father is considered by some characters to be a great disgrace. Mariko is berated by her husband, Buntaro, asking her to confess her father’s treachery.
* However, in this scene Lady Ochiba says that she believes that Lord Toranaga was behind the killing of her father, Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga), the former ruler of Japan.
- This is a huge revelation. Later statements by Toranaga support this idea where he tells Mariko that she needs to finish the mission of her father.
* What is going on? Let’s go back to Akechi Jinsai, (based on Akechi Mitsuhide), who is Mariko's father.
Over time many people in Japan have developed a positive view of Mitsuhide. There is a shrine to him with a statue and there are festivals celebrating his memory.
* What happened? While it is accepted that Oda Nobunaga was a unifier of Japan, it is also recognized by many that he was a brutal tyrant. In the series the viewer can see Lady Ochiba’s father, Lord Kuroda Nobuhisa (Oda Nobunaga), cutting off the heads of Buddhist monks.
- It has been speculated that this is one of several reasons why Oda Nobunaga was assassinated.
* This leads to a bigger role for Toranaga as not only the final unifier of Japan but as a man of peace which he explains in his speech to Yabushige before his seppuku.
- As I mentioned, earlier Toranaga tells Mariko that she needs to fulfill her father’s great purpose. What is that? To rid Japan of tyrants.
Ishido, who controls Osaka castle, has all the leaders of the main families prisoner. Anyone who tries to leave will be killed.
Mariko’s death by Ishido exposes this and it breaks Ishido’s tyrany.
* The later defeat of Ishido in battle finishes Toranaga’s master plan, to remove the tyrants of Japan who have sewn division and to allow him to become Shogun which will create an era of peace (that will last for 250 years).
Lady Ochiba best villain
@@curio78 If you delved further, he was spoke by the marriage proposal and the ambition of Ishida, do you think if Ishida won Sekighara he would just stay still, if you read how Toyotomi achieve domination he would follow thesame footstep, it was a good choice during that time, go for the lesser devil between the two and pray.
😮 Nikaido Fumi? Wow.. 🎉❤ so different to that kr/jp soapy drama 😂 what a contrast
I could listen to this woman “sinisterly” “purr” her way through the phone book 😊
Her voice sounds like anime. Her voice acting itself is awesome
You missed the eye roll
azai nagamasa?
Yes, it seems they're twisting the real history - either by making her the daughter instead of the niece of Oda Nobunaga (who in 1582 was after all forced into seppuku by Akechi Mitsuhide, called Akechi Jinsai here) or otherwise implying that her actual father Azai Nagamasa was killed together with Oda in 1582, and hence, also by Akechi - rather than (as would have been historical) being killed in 1573 not with, but BY his brother-in-law Oda.
@@chevalierdupapillon The real irony is that the person who was in charge at the siege of Odani castle...was Hideyoshi (in the book called Nakamura) 10 years later O-cha's mother was married to Shibata Katsuie History repeated itself and Hideyoshi forced both of them to seppuku
This isn't a case of my father killed your father, it's more like the same guy killed both of my parents and both of your (Mariko's) parents...and then I married him and had two kids.
No, Oda
They made her a daughter for a more dramatic effect.
Why is it that Ochiba looks like a robot talking... ? She doesn't blink much....
I think her status made her spoke like that
That's how Japanese aristocratic ladies used to talk in the olden days
On the contrary, the amount of emotion, control and power she is exuding in her manner of speech is so notable. Wow!
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I think aristocratic ladies of Ancient Japan spoke like that, at least in formal settings. Mariko speaks naturally because we mostly see her in intimate setting but she too actually talks like that in public (for example during court audience with Lord Ishido)
This show is great but she's just hamming it up playing a mustache twirling villain, it's sad and pathetic. The show deserves better
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For me she's JUST on the right side of the line between an over-hammed moustache-twirling villain and being a controlled but gleefully sadistic psychopath played properly.
It's a very near thing, and I can see why she might be on the wrong side of the line for you, but for me her managing to be skin-crawlingly creepy despite her beauty and musical voice makes her an effective villain.
@@michel1161 naw bro
@@SS-rr7by yeah bro
@@SS-rr7byu live the kind of life she is forced into then tell me whether she is justified with her action, media illiteracy of these dumbass Jesus