@@SuchDoge4242 #1: The Geneva conventions only concern the acts of nations, soldiers and paramilitaries in a theatre of war. #2: Iirc, the US is not a signatory and thus not technically bound by them anyway.
@@SonsOfLorgar #1 I agree with and understand, yet still feel my example is of relevance. #2 wrong, we do abide by the geniva convention. We did in Korea, Vietnam, and the war on terror from a political standpoint. The geniva convention has alot as of the last 40 Years also consisted of treatment of citizens in prior conventions and the "legality" of undercover officers in domestic situations, so techacally we should be advising our police force to follow their suggestion as a world and UN leader, especially one that has sat in on said conversations.
@@Pyth110 Really? America's fuckin weird dude. We got laws that say photocopies of legal or medical documents count as the real thing. Cos like... if you lose it, do you REALLY want to sit around waiting for the government or lawyers to send you a new copy? Shit could take MONTHS
I have had to explain it to someone this way, "HIPAA's rules just mean that your employer has to ask you for your proof of vaccination, rather than just getting them from your doctor without your permission."
I felt so stupid. At work I also function as a company medic. So everything our empoyees say to me is confidental - even that they needed my help at all. So we had a serious injury and headquaters asked me for a report. "Accoring to our german equivalent of US HIPAA Laws I can not give any information concerning the treatment and/or any medical condition of my patient". Quoting HIPAA autmaticly makes one sound stupid, 8ecause of those morrons.
As a rule of thumb: if someone starts spouting off while spelling HIPAA as HIPPA, I already know their opinion is probably less than educated on the matter
Initially I thought that the law was named the "Health Information Privacy Protection Act" instead of the "Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act". Because of this, my subconscious is always trying to trick me into spelling it HIPPA instead of HIPAA (even while writing this sentence).
@@RusticRonnie Not necessarily. For example, Fox News required all of their employees to be vaccinated; however, all of the conservative talking heads know this wouldn’t sound good to their uneducated fan base, so you can assume they spout off HIPAA because they don’t want to admit that they actually ARE vaccinated.
@@ZFabia2010 I don’t think it really matters how he leans so long as he gives an honest legal breakdown. He still gives good breakdowns. I like how he still manages to keep it reigned in some of the time, and really, it’s his choice to express how he feels about it.
"We can not become a show your papers society" Bro i literally have a drivers license, insurance for that car, a registration for it, a passport, SS card, need i go on? Oh and i guess we shouldn't become a show your papers society UNLESS you're trying to immigrate, then you need all the papers and even then we'd rather not.
Republicans : We don't need no stinking vaccination papers - that's Nazism. Also Republicans : You need papers to prove your immigration status and voting eligibility - show them or get arrested!
@EquivocalPhysicist Like we need another ID. I remember boarding a plane in late 2019 and seeing a placard while waiting in the TSA line, reminding travelers that a REAL ID would be necessary to travel domestically. I thought to myself, “The elites want to limit our ability to travel”. Little did I know what was in the works only a few months later…..
I think it gets worse. First responder: "Sir, you are having an angina attack, did you take any Viagra?" Old man: "That's a HIPAA violation, my niece is right there!" Man dies of heart attack, family sues.
"I want to apply for worker's compensation." "Okay. Did you get injured while on the job?" "I don't have to tell you that; that's a violation of my privacy." "Okay, then the only compensation you're entitled to is for hours on the job. Get back to work."
“HIPAA certified” always makes me laugh as someone who worked at a pharmacy for 13 years. It’s literally a boring slide show they made me watch once a year that I didn’t pay attention to and I just had to pass a quick test lol
I was tasked with teaching that boring little slideshow to people I supervised at the hospital. No way did I want to inflict that level of boredom on those poor people. So...? I interspersed the boring slideshow with slides of puns and hippo-jokes (reworked elephant jokes...I have no shame). After an introduction with a glimpse of the "humor," I gave the recipients the choice of boring and slightly shorter or corny jokes and slightly boring. My favorite slide was the one that only said H.I.P.P.A., then faded to a cartoon of a hippo with long eyelashes, a bow, lipstick, and red polished toenails. Oh, and the consensus? There was no consensus. It was about 50-50 regarding "Spare us anymore cheesy jokes and get us out of here" vs "More cheesy hippo jokes." I'd often find hippo pictures, figurines, stuffed toys, and news articles left anonymously on my desk ❤.
Haha right!? Same for thing for mat certification. Basically, I was certified to put pills in butts. (Medication administration in general, minus shot injections.)
When celebrities/athletes refuse to tell their vaccination status, I generally assume they are unvaccinated. When republican politicians (especially the >65 crowd) refuse to tell their vaccination status, I assume they ARE vaccinated but want to continue to pander to their voting base that they are “sticking it to the left” by not getting vaccinated. 🙄
I actually had to push back on someone using HIPAA as an excuse, but also ended it with , "but I'll leave that up to the lawyers.". Glad to see a lawyer breaking it down!
What I find funny is how those same people react as tourists. HIPAA is US only, so they often assume that Canada and UK sells their info on the black market, while they are protected by PIPEDA and GDPR respectively.
@@nathanmckenzie904 You are very much wrong about that. They haven't departed from it yet. UK is currently making plans for their own plan but they are still covered under GDPR to this day.
As someone that had to learn HIPAA to do my job, I did a choking laugh the first time I heard someone say, "But HIPAA protects me from disclosing vaccine information." Um no, that's not the way that works.
I had someone in the twitterverse basically argue this same point with me. They didnt take my word for it so I screen grabbed the definition of hipaa to the feed. Silence. Of course.
@@joeymessantonio4356 The issue there is the keyboard commandos in Twitterverse think they are experts in everything because someone else told them without any factual information to prove it.
@@GeminiKnight76 The world would be a different place if any effort had been made to teach adults how to verify information on the internet once we started using it in everyday life. Get a computer or smartphone, and you have to pass a test for the internet to work. It's only been like the last 20 years, schools started teaching kids how to verify their sources when doing research projects. Everyone basically 35-40 + has no idea what they're doing. Bonsai kittens, Nigerian princes, pyramid scheme retooled as "multi-level marketing", fake accounts, disinformation, and misinformation, and those poor bastards never learned how to tell what was real and what wasn't. How to look up information to see if it was true.
@@Nevertoleave Not everyone over the age of 35 is internet incompetent. I'm 45 and I know how to do searches for reliable sources that are not Twitter or any other social media.
HIPAA is only there to make sure the companies you give that info don't go giving it out to others without harsh penalties or fines. HIPAA does not prevent a place from requesting information of a medical nature from you. These people are getting that confused which is silly. That being said there is valid reason to be concerned about normalizing having to give more of yourself to a company and even the core of the issue is that the slope is very slippery when it comes to sharing anything that could be looked down upon. If you normalize handing over medical records to employers then you may get discriminated against for things like insurance where you have conditions and the company does not want to cover you. The HIPAA thing is a joke , but the concern still is not.
From the stable genius that coined "Jewish Space Lasers," we got this HIPAA bullsh*t. 💅🙄 It's gotten to the point that you can become a member of the GOP with the IQ of a carrot.
My dad helped write the HIPAA laws. It was a big part of his life when I was a kid. I’m now a medical professional. I’ve never seen him so angry as when I tell him about all the weird ways people try to invoke HIPAA… especially when they call it HIPPA.
Intelligent people, generally, become frustrated with ignorance. My mummy, who has a photographic memory, becomes frustrated with me because I don't have a photographic memory; gee go figure. She calms down after I explain most people don't have that ability. Brilliant & very intelligent humans are in their own world & thoughts. Interesting, to read your father helped out with the law. Stay safe. v
I work for a hospital in the IT department, I’m not an expert, but have some sense what constitutes a HIPAA violation. Because of the time and care we put into protecting PHI and complying with HIPAA, it irritates me when people talk unintelligently about what it is.
I took a radiology certification class that i didn't end up pursuing, and that little bit of HIPAA that i learned/remember is enough to know that MTG and other's takes on HIPAA is laughable and terribly ignorant
So, are you vaxinated? "you can't ask me that, that's a HIPPA violation!" I can hear you misspelling that and I think we're done here, you can leave now.
A patient recently told us that sending him text reminders of his appointments is a HIPAA violation. The things people come up with.. Edit to add: I can't speak for other places, but you sign paperwork regarding this at the initial consultation with my company. It's also asked at registration. 100% doing it to be a pain.
I mean, I could see the argument if it was done without consent or without the appropriate privacy disclosure. My understanding is that there are established guidelines for secure transmission of information and SMS/MMS is by no means secure. But this is all stuff the patient agrees/consents to when they (possibly blindly) sign all the intake papers.
@@itkojecockot man AOC is doing a terrible job them, she tends to be correct on most of the issues she brings up. But yes MTG is the Republican version of AOC… which is to say “take something functional and make a shit show version which isn’t based in reality”. Republicans tend to hate her because she keeps embarrassing their most “promising” members like Ted Cruz”.
Yes, many people don't seem to understand that "but it's the law" doesn't mean that something is "right". Even ignoring for now that this is entirely subjective.
I have actually had a real HIPAA violation in my life when my dentist refused to provide my dental records so I could give them to my new dentist. (She had performed some negligently bad work on a tooth so I wasn't just like moving or something.) Anyway, I filed a complaint with the federal department of Health and Human Services, I think it was. It took them 3 months to decide to investigate and another 3 months to investigate, but they did and I won. Indio, she able to claim ignorance and got put on probation with no real consequences, but it was an interesting experience. She had refused to provide them to me, refused to provide them at my new dentist's request, refused the insurance company's request, and even refused when I came with a police officer as a civil standby to get them at the insurance company's recommendation.
That’s interesting though. Usually people think of HIPAA as releasing information that shouldn’t be. I hadn’t thought about refusing to release information you’re required to.
@@nathanlamberth7631 yeah. I wondered if she was committing some kind of insurance fraud although I wasn't able to figure out any in my case. I had a friend in dental hygiene school and we actually compared all of the dental records with my insurance records and what was actually visible in my mouth. After HHS found in my favor, she actually tried calling the police to help block giving me the records, but they wouldn't touch it. I don't know what was going on, but it was definitely shady and definitely weird.
Weird! The only thing I can imagine is if she did something completely wrong and didn't tell you, so the records were correct but didn't want you to get them? For example, I found out 10yrs later that I had oral surgery to remove the wrong teeth when I was 15. Like the orders were correct, the records were correct, but the teeth removed weren't the ones that should have been (upper jaw vs lower).
I don't understand how professional athletes suddenly want "medical privacy" since pretty much everything about their bodies is meticulously documented on a regular basis
It's more about avoiding getting injected with an experimental drug whose side effects can destroy their ability to perform their sport than "medical privacy". But keep pretending heart inflammation, blood clots, and who knows what else isn't a debilitating risk factor.
@@elgatofelix8917 so if those are the reasons why they don't want to be vaccinated why even bring HIPAA into it? Why not say "I don't want to be vaccinated"? Maybe all the steroids already destroyed their balls?
@@elgatofelix8917 Six months of three rounds of clinical trials First non-trial vaccines have been administered for nearly a year We get similar vaccines for other coronaviruses like the flu every year and have been for decades 600,000 dead Americans The reactions you're talking about have numbers in the double digits
@@selfloathinggameing exactly the type of nonsense spouted by somebody who thinks playing Russian Roulette is a safe bet because only one bullet is loaded into the chamber. Yeah you're "smart"
As a therapist who’s done LOTS of work with Medicaid patients, I can’t help but lose my marbles whenever I hear someone tell a non medical professional that they’re violating HIPAA… it’s literally impossible to do that 😳
as someone who just barely paid attention at school am baffeled how many grown people still have so many confusing interpretations on theier rights & obligations.
As an employee of a covered entity under HIPAA, I had to take annual training on HIPAA rules. Every time I see someone mentioning HIPAA these days on TV or internet I cringe at the ridiculousness of their claims.
I'm not even in the medical field but I cringed when I heard people calling the vaccine the "mark of the beast" and compared a Vaccination record card to "Nazi markings."
@@SaraphDarklaw A HEPA filter is a “high-efficiency particulate air” filter. We have them on our vacuums and air circulation systems in hospitals. They’re just the most effective filters from keeping particles out of the air.
I think we should see this a bonding moment. Even if you’re rich and famous enough to get the best lawyers in the world, you’ll probably still get your legal advice from some idiot on Twitter.
Also how many other vaccines have they had? Why are they treating this one differenctly? No, a vaccine will not cause birth defects or render them sterile should they decide to have children. Yes, the corona vaccine is safe, certainly safer than the virus it protects against. Especially given the 100 of millions of jabs that have been given so far.
It's honestly not even about health at this point. So many unvaccinated just refuse to trust the government and want to fight the laws mandating it. If you ask me, they have good reason. America's government makes a habit of pissing on your head to just tell you it is rain.
@@MB-dk6hk Hmmm, so by that logic, 6 + decades of vaccinating children before allowing them to attend public school...that rain is really just piss? Personally, NO, hell no. Did you ever attend schools that had numerous kids suffering from polio? If not, search for "polio vaccine." Maybe the 4 SCOTUS rulings were fake too, concerning vaccine mandates, or... blab with no information. An opinion, carry on M B!
The thing that really gets me is that I've had several conversations where I've explained HIPAA with documentation for said explanation and they just keep going. Also as a disabled person who has to sometimes seek ADA accommodations, it's flabbergasting to me how little people know about that law and how it works while the insist on invoking it. It's truly a classic case of "you can't fix stupid", especially when it's willful.
Why i love this channel and feel I can trust him as a reliable source of information: "I can't tell you whether things are right or wrong, I'm just a lawyer. But, I'm a lawyer, i can tell you whether their legal or not."
"We need to stop America from becoming a show your papers society". So when a cop pulls me over and asks for my driver's license and registration, should I just flip him the bird and keep driving?
You can try, but as a cop friend once told me, when you get pulled over, you are technically under arrest. So, driving off will also get you a charge of evading arrest. So, instead, just flip him/her the bird and tell her/him that Madison Cawthorn said this shouldn't be a "show me your papers society". 🙂
You technically don’t have to show the cop your drivers license, but you would be held until you can be identified and your car would be impounded because the cop would say they have probably cause that you committed a crime. It would be your word vs a government employee’s, so guess who the government would believe? The fifth amendment protects you from saying anything including giving your information over. You can ask “am I being detained and am I free to go?”. If you are being detained, you can invoke the fifth amendment. If you are not, you can drive off
As someone with a degree in administrative medical office management: first, flashbacks to my school years throughout this whole video. Second it is hilarious how much people like to cling to hipaa as if it applies in every situation to everyone when if that were the case asking for things like allergy information or even just "are you sick?" Would be highly illegal.
Some guy had a heart attack, I had to let him die because I didn't want to violate his HIPAA by giving him CPR. Shoot, I just broke the law by telling that story!
Finally!! I work in Health Insurance - put down your torches and pitchforks, please - and it is nice that someone covered this because all the HIPAA videos make me laugh...
I'm a software developer whose made various HR and medical software apps over the years, and HIPAA tends to have way more impact on developers and IT in terms of how the software needs to be written, to what levels of encryption and security, and what sort of access logs need to be recorded for auditing purposes. From what I've seen, it's mostly concerned with the "middle men" and third parties to ensure no more information than is needed for a given context is shared
Yep, software development and cyber security are probably hit harder by HIPAA and HITECH than doctors are. Got my bachelors in programming and now do cyber security so I've seen it from both ends. It's fun explaining to nurses that no, they can't send the really cool/gnarly x-ray to their girlfriends because it has a patient's name and PII on it for the thousandth time... not.
Software engineer and worked in pharmacy for 13 years, it has to do with privacy in general. If a person stands too close to you while I’m talking about your medical information, is a violation. If i start looking up peoples medical information at work... just because... it’s a violation.
@@Jcewazhere Can't the nurses just ask the patient for permission to take a photo of the Xray that doesn't show their name on it? I know I have had nurses ask me similar questions about photos in medical settings. Since I give them permission for it, then it shouldn't be a HIPAA violation. As for why I get asked it a lot, I have a very cute service dog that most nurses love. I usually say yes since I don't care if people know that I was at a specific office and that's the only information that can come from the photo. Which is usually information that I already freely share with other people anyway
As a lawyer who represents injured workers, bringing a claim essentially makes your medical history fair game for a fishing expedition by the insurance company to try and find a way to deny your claim. HIPAA-RGH!!!
Every time someone says they don't think the government should have any conditions on their personal health choices in the workplace, I ask them if they'd have a problem with a pilot high on meth flying them on their next trip. That usually shuts em up.
Honestly they shouldn’t have, it should be a rule put in place but the company itself. Like Southwest Airlines or Volaris, it should be up to them how much experience a pilot has before he can fly, or what condition the pilot must he to fly. Because at the end of the day, if people are unsatisfied with their flight, they can choose to not go. Profits will suffer because of their poor choice making, and they will either improve flying or health conditions, or go bankrupt. And since your on the topic of pilots and airplanes, didn’t Southwest Airlines listen to the governances mandates that their employee must vaccinate, and what happened? Canceled or extremely delayed flights? And the Southwest said it was because of weather or turbulence? Lying to the public for following a government mandate because their pilots and employees walked out.
@@HarpaxA A surgeon is not a very good comparison to the top comment. A surgeon, when he walks in to perform surgery on somebody, their will always be liability. If he goes in under the influence or high, he is liable for you. And you would be able to sue him because of that. But those rules wouldn’t need to be put there by the government, the company itself could have installed them.
Oh hey! I'm in the video around 1 minute. Yeah I got Hippa mixed up with the hippocratic oath and was still wrong! I loved having this sent to me by my friend. Thanks for covering the topic since yeah, there's a lot of uninformed people on twitter (me included) that talk about random shit we don't know about!
@@whoawtf7419 I laugh at it, being wrong is normal + I made a mistake, no reason to die on the hill, to be quite frank that photo was taken a few months ago and I rarely go on twitter so much anymore since I dislike all the politics.
@@rzawistowski33 Yes, that was the point. It's in the video, at 4:07 with the actual HIPAA acronym above it, in order to demonstrate exactly what you just said.
I was the HIPAA compliance/implementation officer at my old medical practice. Asking if someone has been vaccinated, is not a violation. Hacking and getting the info without her permission, is a violation.
Honestly yeah. I think that's a sign of a good lawyer, when they are not willing to talk about the morality of what they do. Because the law dousnt care about morality. It only cares about the law.
morality is societies job to split hairs over. a lawyers job is to split hairs over the verbiage of whatever words were written into some bs claimed to be the law.
Joe Rogan may not be a good source for medical knowledge, but he IS the source for all mass produced HGH. They get it by taking him down to the squeezing room.
I work at a medical device company, so I'm required to retake HIPAA training on an annual basis even though I don't handle PHI in any part of my job. When people use HIPAA as a sort of trump-card against requirements like vaccinations makes my eyes roll back into my skull.
It’s just another moving of the goalposts to bolster the antivax mentality. “Protecting HIPAA” sounds more logical and better informed than “I don’t wanna! 😫”
You just informed us that you have a medical condition that makes your eyes roll back when hearing misinformation. You just violated your HIPPA ⬅️ rights
I've worked in healthcare for over 30 years now, and I keep wanting to make these people read the training materials and take the annual quiz before they ever say "HIPAA" again. I could get reprimanded or fired if I don't pass the annual HIPAA training, but apparently they can spout all sorts of nonsense with a straight face. I'd be fine if they just wanted to cite a patient's right to privacy, but nooooo. They have to indulge in this verbal cosplay.
@@johnmacrae2006 HIPAA prevents healthcare providers, AND ONLY HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, from releasing healthcare information with any identifying information. No one but the organization(s) that provide those health services needs to abide by HIPAA. Patients have the right to refuse to release vaccination records, legally, but 3rd parties (like employers) are free to punish them for doing so. As those parties are under no HIPAA obligations.
@@johnmacrae2006 Under a hospital's by-laws, yes. Under professional codes of ethics, yes. I can't really comment on the specifics of any state or federal laws, but I do know that a patient's medical records can be released to a parent/guardian (in cases where the patient is a minor or otherwise unable to participate in their medical care/decisions), and that doesn't usually require anything beyond identification of the parent/guardian.
Really great to see HEPA filters getting the love and credit they deserve for once. /s Your daily reminder that the real filter, the great filter, approaches faster than ever before. And it'll be all our faults.
@@RusticRonnie nah there is more than one potential great filter spot which is hard to figure out which one it is. Kutzguzart made a vid on it and yeah its hard to see it coming ESP when we don't have other species to compare it to
The funniest thing about all this is, I've seen people here in Australia try and claim that hipaa, hippa, hippo and various other things protects them from being asked things. Also happens people here try and plead the fifth with police. Its kind of entertaining/embarrassing.
I've heard of US citizens claiming US constitutional rights in other countries (usually to the laughter of the local authorities), but this is a new one on me. Maybe Aussies watch too many US cop shows ?
things that *are* HIPAA violations: finding a patient on facebook or texting them from your private phone regarding a non-healthcare matter things that arent HIPAA violations asking for proof of vaccination at a private company's front door
@@Gothicsilencer no. I never have answered the parents. They aren’t asking me about anything medical, just if the hospital is busy or to gossip about the staff. I don’t answer, of course. I just think it’s weird.
@@rachelcoates9041 seeing as the information was accessed by patients and not staff, it isnt a hipaa violation i would guess, but it is still an invasion of your privacy as a medical care provider. hipaa doesnt protect providers' information, it protects patients' private health info and personally identifiable info
We Anglophobes, do love our acronyms. But still that's fighting talk, and O wouldn't start a puukkohippa over HIPPA with the heavily-armed American populace.
I love how so many of them call it "HIPPA" instead of "HIPAA". I was a pharmacy technician starting in 1998 and had to get training in HIPAA. So this past year has been pretty hilarious.
It's the one and only thing about all of the crazy that makes some amount of sense. By usual English rules, HIPPA would be the correct spelling for the way people generally pronounce the acronym. Of course, acronyms have no requirement to follow English spelling rules (such as they are)...
Same. I was an IT tech at a medical facility in 2000 and had to get trained on HIPAA laws. First time I heard someone use this excuse I was like, you LITERALLY have no idea what you are talking about here. Basically if you are not working in medicine or health care, HIPAA doesn't apply to you. Joe schmuck can go through your trash and find your medication and its NOT a HIPAA violation. Maybe a bunch of other violations and laws, but not HIPAA.
Worked for a health insurance company... had yearly trainings about what is and isn't a HIPAA violation. The last two years have been a continuous eye-roll for me.
I love how you added the point you need papers to send your kid to school I feel like people forget the fact that you have to get certain vaccines and other healthcare things to put your kid through school
As someone who works with HIPAA every single working day of my life, it’s nice to finally see someone explaining correctly how it works and not using it as an excuse to be a butthole.
As someone who works in the health insurance industry, I find it both sad and alarming how many people - particularly those IN MEDICINE - misquote and hide behind this group of laws.
It's just another reminder that no group of humans in any occupation: Cops, legislators, astronauts, teachers, doctors, managers... are all going to be free of idiots. Some percentage of people will have bumbled their way into the ranks of the successfully employed.
@@imightbebiased9311 I mean, a former friend of mine who was a dang PA is anti vaxx because “religion” and got fired for it…yeah, I have no sympathy whatsoever for that.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 that’s because people don’t understand the religious protections either. While your employer must make reasonable accommodations, they can let you go if the requirements prevent you from doing a job. If my religion says I can’t wear any safety gear, you’d better believe I can get termed from a construction site.
As a Republican, I can tell you that most reasonable Republicans think she's just awful as well. I'm just waiting for her to legally change her name to Karen
Ironically enough having thousands of Ms 'Jewish Space Lasers' running around fighting against vaccine mandates _is_ like Nazi Germany (where they rolled back previously existing vaccine mandates).
13:15 "It would be illegal to mandate a vaccine because doing so requires the government to find out who has been vaccinated". Here in Australia ALL vaccinations provided have to be recorded in a federal government database called the Australian Immunisation Register. And it's from this database that we are able to download our own proof of vaccinations.
That I think is totally acceptable. It's very different for the government to declare that all jobs must operate a certain way, regardless of whether they wish to
@@DandDgamer right. It would be unbelievable if the federal government created some sort of administrational agency that enacted regulations pertaining to the occupational safety and health of employees, and penalized employers who violated said regulations. Wait…
@@DandDgamer Damn those guard rails in the factory! Damn Feds over stepping their bounds. My company shouldn't have to waste money on the rails, if employees over step their bounds and die in a fall, it should be on them.
As someone whom is both a medical provider and currently completing a masters in healthcare administration and business administration I 100% agree with your assessment of the interpretive gymnastics people seem to take when it comes to HIPAA. What I would love to see as a short or another segment that would be more of a thought experiment would be the intersection of the Texas abortion bounty law in the context of HIPAA as they would have to prove someone got an abortion but how can they do that without the patient's records? Is that something they could FOIA from the provider? Can they even seek a judgement without absolute proof the person received the procedure as they could have miscarried naturally which ended the pregnancy. Can the patient counter sue for defamation if they didn't actually have an abortion?
A medical provider can be subpoenaed to provide health records and medical information. This would be another page in the large book of Republican hypocrisy. Republicans: "My medical records are private, and nobody has the right to see them!" Also Republicans: "Let me force this doctor to tell me if this lady had an abortion so I can make an easy $10k"
@@wmeuse2375 If for example they could subpoena the records and ask for "only records that would be pertinent to patient having received an abortion" then doesn't this mean by handing over the records the patient has self-incriminated themselves? Also can a doctor override a patient confidentiality when the medical information being disclosed doesn't rise to the burden required which would be clear and immediate harm being present. Where exactly do the lines intersect between a doctors duty to HIPAA privacy and the courts ability to access and request a patients confidential medical information without their permission in the context of discovery? That's why I was asking if he could cover it as it's kind of grey all around.
@@Xayentist I think the right against self-incrimination only applies to compelled testimony; I seriously doubt medical records would qualify any more than, for example, incriminating emails. Also, who*
@@justoneman13 "The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution protects a person from being compelled to incriminate oneself. Self-incrimination may also be referred to as self-crimination or self-inculpation." The logic is that PHI is considered private, unlike company emails, and by definition the law or subpoena requesting said information that would be compelling the person to give evidence that would incriminate themselves otherwise and that also would include the fact that the person could or could not have even performed an abortion in the first place. So in essence they would be asking for a subpoena to discover were or not they did something illegal not one to collect evidence of probable cause they did something against the law. So again my question still remains regardless if the terms aren't specific to the exact phrasing of self-incrimination we would typically see in criminal cases as this is already a strange law in the first place being enforced by the general public and not law enforcement officers.
@@SandsBuisle I don't play much magic anymore, but I prefer to call her "Ms. 'Jewish Space Lasers'" It takes longer to type, but I'm pretty insistent on the "Never Again" thing, so the constant reminder so no-one forgets for a second what she is is worth it. Not being the same acronym as a card game is a side bonus, and even more reason to call her that for fans of the game.
I work for a health insurance company, every time a politician says HIPAA I want to bang my head on my desk. I booked mark the CDC's page on HIPAA in case somebody ever tries to pull it with me.
As someone who used to volunteer at a hospital a few years back, hearing people throw around the term "HIPAA" so incorrectly and with such confidence is bewildering. Feels like an episode of the twilight zone.
I pity anybody who takes this channel seriously for legal advice and analysis. Just one look at this clown's video history shows it's nothing political propaganda masquerading as entertainment.
@@elgatofelix8917 one question: Is political propaganda only bad if it doesn't correlate with your views? I mean Fox News is a TV channel that doesn't do anything but political propaganda. Do you also resent that?
@@Jehty_ of course I resent that. Fox is no better than CNN. Way to show how hopelessly stuck in your echo chamber you are that you automatically assume anybody who expresses a dissenting opinion from your precious establishment is a Fox "news" viewer. What next? You'll accuse me of supporting a VAX pusher like Trump? 😅😅😅
@@elgatofelix8917 it's just that all the comments you wrote under this video could be 1:1 from Fox News. So where did you get your talking points if not from Fox?
@@Jehty_ lol what a load of BS. Here's a thought: maybe I actually think for myself and come to my own conclusions based on independent observations and personal experience. I know that's unfathomable for NPCs like you who let propagandists like LegalWeasel tell you what to think.
Any time someone says "you can't ask that, that is a HIPAA violation" what they are really saying is "I don't want to tell you, but I'm going to make up some excuse that makes you sound like the bad guy for asking me even though I am the person being stubborn."
Had someone ranting about there "friend's" inability to get a religious exemption for the same thing. My answer, if they had given a shit, and not been a complete flipping nutcase about *everything* for the last 5 years, would have been, "Pulling a deeply held belief about a specific vaccine out of your ass, which your 'church' never had until now, and which you contradicted over and over again by stating that you specifically planned to use this excuse to not get a vaccination, and not because you actually appose vaccines, etc., does not qualify you, your friend, or any other random idiot, for a flipping exemption. And, this is the case despite how much you misquote scripture, or try to claim that your local church supports you, as a means of 'proving it'." But, nope, the fact that many people do somehow manage to get them, while others, on "both sides" of the political fence try, but fail to, for all sorts of insane BS, kind of contradicts the "theory" that this is some conspiracy, directed specifically at flipping conservatives who get their medical advice from Joe Rogan, or their not-actually-a-doctor chiropractor. Or, at least it bloody shouldn't. But.. this is mass hysteria on a level of Europe during the Black Plague, and, just like then, they are looking for their modern version of, "Its all caused by witches and black cats", instead of being "preventable" with basic flipping hygiene. Sigh...
They're all concerned about a person's right to medical privacy when it comes to vaccinations but seem to recklessly disregard it when it comes to reproductive health.
So you're saying that murdering someone should be protected? The Constitution, not HIPAA, protect individuals from disclosing private information. While there are certainly times an individual can be excluded from some things a vaccine that requires four shots and counting isn't exactly codified in the law. Some of us remember the same attempts of pushing the Anthrax vaccine. Then there was H1N1. Now we are repeating the same exercise in futility that even the (P)resident admitted it was not legal. Science, as it were, isn't easily defined in law. As for abortions, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness isn't limited to those who can vote, in fact it is precisely for those who are vulnerable, also known as, unborn children.
You’re right it’s your medical right to keep your information about what you do with your reproductive life is your business since it’s a legal practice in healthcare. Our side isn’t concerned with HIPAA, but the practice itself.
I work as an Emergency psych clinician and I have clients threaten to sue when I talk to their therapist/clinicians about their current mental status. Note: during Emergency situations (a mental health evaluation counts) we can obtain information. We can't share information unless given permission, if they are adults - but we can 100% talk to their doctors or whomever we need to know if they are safe to discharge or not
Ironic. I was an exchange student in the US back in 2008, and towards the end of the year I was pulled from class and held in GUARANTEE until my parents could fax my vaccine certificates from my home country 😅 No one was yelling nazi germany and HIPAA violations back then in the conservative area I lived in 🤭
Ironically, I don't think that it was a HIPAA violation since the entity giving out the information and thus probably not bound by US laws even if it had been done without your consent. It's not illegal for anyone request it as far as I know.
@@DocPetron of course it wasn’t a violation of anything. What I meant is that it’s ironic how people are suddenly so upset about getting asked about their vaccine statuses even though that has been going on for ages 🤷♀️
While I always find your videos interesting, this one stood out. I never considered how civilians interact with HIPAA vs my military experience. HIPAA is a large part of my job as a supervisor, always weighing personnel decisions concerning health issues on the legality of what I can ask for and what can be decided on. For instance, military member says he has a medical appointment and thus can not be at work as those are mandatory in the military. I can not ask the military doctor what he is being seen for, but I can call and check to make sure the appointment is legit if I have reason to think the member is skipping out of work. No simple calling in sick in the military. So, its pretty funny to see it being brought to the attention of the public in such a bizarre way. Of course, immunizations are also mandatory in the military, a simple check box and get back to work. Hell, we even do immunizations in entire groups. So, the fight over immunizations is also bizarre and hilarious to me.
I remember going through basic training in the '90s... we were all marched as a group to a small building where we waited outside and in a line were filled through and given a shot. We didn't get to object, we didn't even get told where we were going until we got there.
I just want to thank you. I watched this yesterday, and today I'm filling out onboarding paperwork for a new job that includes stuff on HIPAA (and other legal things). This video, along with others you've put out, have been a massive help in increasing just my baseline understanding of all the stuff I am reading. (Some of it has even been interesting because I understand what's being talked about instead of just glazing through it.) I really appreciate the education you've provided.
Imagine being wheeled into the Emergency in obvious pain and the MO asks what's wrong so patient said "You can't ask me my medical history, I am protected by HIPAA!"
I love how medicine and law takes years and years of intense education and study yet every karen and kevin believe they are more qualified than anyone of these people. Dunning Kruger at its finest.
I know it's weird, with the amount of medical and law experts that I see every where these days you'd think we would of collectively cured cancer by now
"Marjorie Taylor Greene getting it completely wrong" doesn't narrow it down, Lawbird Supreme*. (* - I am far more comfortable with the claim that you are indeed the supreme bird of law than I am with any claims made by MTG.)
They usually mean HIPAA-eligible or HIPAA-compliant HIPAA is a law you comply with, not certified. There are compliance frameworks you can get certified in that demonstrate HIPAA compliance, but that's a bit different
@@finneyhamster9106 it's probably because they worked somewhere they had to take a training course, and at the end of it they got a certificate from HR or whatever that "I completed this training course." Nothing that has any actual meaning outside of their specific employer, just that they took the class.
@@the_synack I doubt that's what they mean. It's pretty evident that the people who make those claims on social media don't actually understand anything about HIPAA in the first place, hence why they manage to misspell HIPAA and just generally misuse its meaning. Those who do understand HIPAA, would never make such a mistake as saying HIPAA certified
My health clinic giving my medical information to my mother despite the fact they aren't allowed to share my medical information without getting my permission when she isn't even listed as an emergency contact (and I'm an adult) is more of a violation then someone asking if I have my vaccines.
There's right, wrong, and the law. Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it's a violation of the law and vice versa (something ethically good can be a violation of the law). It's something people really don't like to hear when they're stuck in black and white thinking.
@@clueless_cutie any one in animal rescue is so aware of this. Many things that most people would consider morally wrong in regards to pets are technically legal.
Here in germany it's very likely that they will legalize recreational weed (4 years testing phase, but whatever) and this doesn't change the morality of consuming cannabis. No matter what your opinion on drug-use is. If someone actually bases their moral opinions on the law, it's very strange imo.
HIPAA was always something I loved because it stopped my over protective mom from using my health info against me. Before it she could call and just ask for the info and use it against me but now I actually have privacy.
@@GeneralNickles Just a spitball... "You've been getting the birth control, so youve been having the sex, I'm locking you in the dungeon, and calling for the exorcism. "
@@GeneralNickles Jason gave a great example. There are so many other ways too and I'm truly glad you can't even imagine how they can be weaponized against you. No one should have to go through that.
@@bobsaget3841 no. They didn't give a great example. They gave a great example of "how to have your parents arrested." Not how medical records can be weaponized. And I'm still not seeing how that could ever work. Like MAYBE if you have an STD and they threaten to plaster it all over the internet? But again, that's grounds for having them arrested for emotional abuse. Child protection laws exist for a reason. Even if It's legal for them to invade your privacy, it's not legal for them to abuse you with it.
Imma tell my employer to use this video for our HIPAA training from now on (along with, probably, a small mountain of supplementary training). I work in information systems with medical systems (occasionally) so we get training every year. Watching this video….it’s craaaazy how wrong folks can get it. I never felt it was terribly complex?
Find it weird that so many republican lawmakers don't know what the law even is. How are they allowed to push blatantly illegal laws that they know will be overturned in courts? There should be a massive punishment for crap like that.
@@travis1240 : PeeOTUS was never interested to learn what his role and responsibilities were, though he was quick to fill positions that benefited himself, his family, and his loyalists even though they weren't qualified to fill those positions.
They have to say something so they say something. It is like Trump's response to releasing his tax records that they are under audit. One thing has nothing to do with the other. And so many people are doing it that we can't even shame them for their stupidity or lack of morality of blatantly spreading false information.
@@ps.2 Well I didn't make fun of her for misspelling it, I made fun of her for being a sitting Congresswoman with no knowledge of the law. The spelling of her last name is irrelevant as I never plan on referring to her again.
The people complaining about their HIPAA rights being violated remind me of those who claim that they are 'sovereign citizens'. Neither group seems to have a clue what they are talking about.
What amuses me about the "sovereign citizens" is that they fail to understand when you visit a foreign country you are not exempted from obeying their laws. So Everytime those idiots leave their little bubble they are traveling on foreign soil and therefore still subject to the laws established by the state.
As a healthcare and compliance attorney, I cannot truly express how triggering the intro of this video is. The grossly widespread misunderstanding of HIPAA is giving me ulcers. You explained it perfectly. I am 100% forwarding this video to everyone who feels compelled to ask me whether they can sue “for a violation of their HIPAA rights.” Also, have you ever considered creating employee/employer trainings on this? I’ve reviewed so many HIPAA trainings for clients, and more often than not they’re terrible. This video broke this concept down so succinctly, it would be a great basis for a training!
I have been working in healthcare since 1993, well before the HIPAA act passed. We have trainings on itat every year. Seeing the MTGs of the world misquote and misunderstand it irks the hell out of me. Thank you for providing some much needed context and commentary on it and pointing out that the HIPAA act does NOT PREVENT private businesses and employers from requiring to see if you have been vaccinated.
@Cort C It's none of an airline's business if the pilot is vaccinated or not, if he/she smoked marijuana before arriving for work, took prescription drugs that impair motor and cog native functions.
It’s hysterical this had to be explained, still an interesting watch. It is too bad that many will choose to disbelieve any facts or interpretations, since it may go against their personal beliefs. Keep up the good videos please.
If my child was at a private school who banned vaccinated teachers, I would be finding another school because clearly my child isnt getting a proper education.
Work in a hospital... student nurse... trained EMT... Seeing these people get HIPAA so unbelievably wrong is infuriating... It's like watching someone try to get into a bar and when the bartender asks for an ID they claim they don't need to show it because it would violate their 5th amendment rights... That's literally not how anything works!
@@SonOfTheDawn515 that doesn't apply here either. People can ask you whatever they want and a company can demand certain information. The 4th Amendment applies to unlawful search and seizure by the government and doesn't apply to vaccine requirements.
@@Stethacanthus As an individual with rights I say it's no one's business. I'm not taking a pro or anti vaccine stance. Right to privacy. You may ask whatever you want but I'm under no obligation to provide said information.
Two things: Im really eager to see you tackle the Kyle rittenhouse trial and if you do another episode of "Laws Broken" can you tackle Hunter S Thompson scapades on Fear and Loathing in las vegas?
Self defense is when you take a loaded gun to a rally with full intent to shoot people and then shoot those people 🥴 Kyle was looking for a fight. He found a fight. Now he's crying that his actions might have consequences.
@@alexispalangeo8643 Nah, you're discounting that he went there with the express intent to start shit. How's that saying go? "Don't start none, won't be none"? You know when you were a kid and your sibling waves their hand a millimeter from your nose and says "I'm not touching you" so you slap their hand away? Is them punching you self defense?
THANK YOU!!! I work in the mental health field. Very very very few people actually understand HIPAA. People throw it around all the time. Incorrectly. This is a must watch! Great video! 👍🏼
@@joshuakevinserdan9331 Yeah but so is Rudy Juliani.... In all seriousness, I know Legal Eagle is trustworthy. The Debate nerd in me just cant stop looking for funny little loopholes in statements.
I really want to watch this but it’s a violation of my HIPAAcratic oath
You are not watching this? You're breaking his heart... Only if there's a cardiologist around to check it for him...
We got Dr. Dadjoke up in here. lol :D
~ba dum tiss~
Taking into account your username and your comment, you would legally qualify as a HIPAAcrite.
HIPPAcratic oath*
"Violates my HIPPA", is the modern version of "are you an undercover cop? If I ask you, you HAVE to tell me."
@@SuchDoge4242 except there's nothing to say about undercover cops in the Geneva convention
@@SuchDoge4242 have you ever looked up the Geneva Conventions? They are about war not undercover policing.
@@SuchDoge4242
#1: The Geneva conventions only concern the acts of nations, soldiers and paramilitaries in a theatre of war.
#2: Iirc, the US is not a signatory and thus not technically bound by them anyway.
@@SonsOfLorgar So you are saying that USA can, kinda of, commit war crimes?
That's crazy.
@@SonsOfLorgar #1 I agree with and understand, yet still feel my example is of relevance. #2 wrong, we do abide by the geniva convention. We did in Korea, Vietnam, and the war on terror from a political standpoint. The geniva convention has alot as of the last 40 Years also consisted of treatment of citizens in prior conventions and the "legality" of undercover officers in domestic situations, so techacally we should be advising our police force to follow their suggestion as a world and UN leader, especially one that has sat in on said conversations.
My only issue with vaccine verification: why is the card bigger than my wallet? What barbarian designed this thing?
Get a bigger wallet.
Or just... like... photocopy it and fold the paper into your wallet.
@@arifhossain9751 omg u can't photocopy ur card thats a felony
@@Pyth110
Really? America's fuckin weird dude. We got laws that say photocopies of legal or medical documents count as the real thing.
Cos like... if you lose it, do you REALLY want to sit around waiting for the government or lawyers to send you a new copy? Shit could take MONTHS
@@arifhossain9751 Pretty sure they were being sarcastic.
@@Pyth110 yea im pretty sure that's not true. I literally took my card to be photocopied by my HR yesterday.....
"You can't film here! HIPPO! HIPPO!"
*Filmmaker is immediately savaged by a territorial hippopotamus*
@@Ozzymandius1 Hippo: I found that offensive! I am going to savage that guy!
Agent 47 would like to know your location
@@davyt0247 "Act your age man, what are you? 46? 48?" - Random smartass NPC.
We got it wrong...poor guy was just trying to warn the camera man of the hippos that were let loose.
Why did i laugh for 10 whole minutes on this
I have had to explain it to someone this way, "HIPAA's rules just mean that your employer has to ask you for your proof of vaccination, rather than just getting them from your doctor without your permission."
Delightfully concise.
That's a good explanation. 😊
still sounds like facism to me
Then they hit you with the “I’m not giving it then” and then you have to go “Then you’re fired”
@@HazeLmao you clearly don’t know what fascism is, Brainlet.
You do not want to violate a hippo's personal space, they are deadly.
But I've already got one camped inside my head and _it's_ not doing any harm
:^)
I felt so stupid. At work I also function as a company medic. So everything our empoyees say to me is confidental - even that they needed my help at all. So we had a serious injury and headquaters asked me for a report. "Accoring to our german equivalent of US HIPAA Laws I can not give any information concerning the treatment and/or any medical condition of my patient".
Quoting HIPAA autmaticly makes one sound stupid, 8ecause of those morrons.
hipaas are the most dangerous creature i think, besides the nile crocodile
@@yaxye7075 Hipaas are even more deadly than elephants.
@@yaxye7075 You really missed an opportunity to say Denile Crocodile
As a rule of thumb: if someone starts spouting off while spelling HIPAA as HIPPA, I already know their opinion is probably less than educated on the matter
You also know that they are not vaccinated.
And then these idiots double down and say that "doctors misspell it too."
Initially I thought that the law was named the "Health Information Privacy Protection Act" instead of the "Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act". Because of this, my subconscious is always trying to trick me into spelling it HIPPA instead of HIPAA (even while writing this sentence).
@@RusticRonnie Not necessarily. For example, Fox News required all of their employees to be vaccinated; however, all of the conservative talking heads know this wouldn’t sound good to their uneducated fan base, so you can assume they spout off HIPAA because they don’t want to admit that they actually ARE vaccinated.
As someone who works in healthcare and has routinely spelled HIPAA wrong for years, I'm terribly embarrassed at this moment.
“Almost certainly wrong” is the most lawyer way to call someone on their BS I’ve ever heard
Sounds like it should be on Legal Eagle merch
@@Saezimmerman that’s not a bad idea at all
yeah make sick how he leans, its soo obvious
Business associates (BAs) of CEs are also bound by HIPAA if they have access to PHI.
@@ZFabia2010 I don’t think it really matters how he leans so long as he gives an honest legal breakdown. He still gives good breakdowns. I like how he still manages to keep it reigned in some of the time, and really, it’s his choice to express how he feels about it.
"We can not become a show your papers society" Bro i literally have a drivers license, insurance for that car, a registration for it, a passport, SS card, need i go on? Oh and i guess we shouldn't become a show your papers society UNLESS you're trying to immigrate, then you need all the papers and even then we'd rather not.
Republicans : We don't need no stinking vaccination papers - that's Nazism.
Also Republicans : You need papers to prove your immigration status and voting eligibility - show them or get arrested!
Don't forget about the I-9. You want a job? Show me your papers!
@EquivocalPhysicist
Like we need another ID.
I remember boarding a plane in late 2019 and seeing a placard while waiting in the TSA line, reminding travelers that a REAL ID would be necessary to travel domestically. I thought to myself, “The elites want to limit our ability to travel”.
Little did I know what was in the works only a few months later…..
And most of those documents are not really necessary.
@@rockdinosaur8619 It's to prevent illegal voting.
This is literally the saying “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.”
Really, REALLY little knowledge.
That is unintentionally the most accurate use of "literally" I've ever seen on the internet.
It’s like going to a book club with only reading just the first page of a book
Actually, the problem is that these people have NO knowledge.
Dunning-Kruger effect at play here.
"Whoa, man, how did you break your arm?"
"That's a HIPAA violation!"
I think it gets worse.
First responder: "Sir, you are having an angina attack, did you take any Viagra?"
Old man: "That's a HIPAA violation, my niece is right there!"
Man dies of heart attack, family sues.
HIPAA violations are the new mattress tag removals.
"I want to apply for worker's compensation."
"Okay. Did you get injured while on the job?"
"I don't have to tell you that; that's a violation of my privacy."
"Okay, then the only compensation you're entitled to is for hours on the job. Get back to work."
New partner: "Do you have any STI/STDs I should be aware of?"
Someone with definitely nothing transmissible: "HIPAA violation!"
That sounds just like my nut-job Libertarian father in law who gets physically angry if anyone asks him anything personal.
“HIPAA certified” always makes me laugh as someone who worked at a pharmacy for 13 years. It’s literally a boring slide show they made me watch once a year that I didn’t pay attention to and I just had to pass a quick test lol
I was tasked with teaching that boring little slideshow to people I supervised at the hospital. No way did I want to inflict that level of boredom on those poor people.
So...?
I interspersed the boring slideshow with slides of puns and hippo-jokes (reworked elephant jokes...I have no shame). After an introduction with a glimpse of the "humor," I gave the recipients the choice of boring and slightly shorter or corny jokes and slightly boring.
My favorite slide was the one that only said H.I.P.P.A., then faded to a cartoon of a hippo with long eyelashes, a bow, lipstick, and red polished toenails.
Oh, and the consensus? There was no consensus. It was about 50-50 regarding "Spare us anymore cheesy jokes and get us out of here" vs "More cheesy hippo jokes."
I'd often find hippo pictures, figurines, stuffed toys, and news articles left anonymously on my desk ❤.
Haha right!? Same for thing for mat certification. Basically, I was certified to put pills in butts. (Medication administration in general, minus shot injections.)
@@anitaholmes8201 oh my gosh that's brilliant
Me a Patient who need hippa.
:D, wohoo I smell a lawsuit.
Public Health, 20 years. Like, 'hang on...are we talking about HIPAA HIPAA? ' 😂
"unfortunately we have thousands of Marjory Taylor greens out there...."
Darkest timeline confirmed
She's the Queen of the Karens.
One was scary enough, the idea of thousands is terrifying.
They're called Qaren Americans, thank you very much.
evergrande just defaulted and they're blaming the apes for the comming collapse in america. Just waiting on abed to grow that goatee
Yikes.
When celebrities/athletes refuse to tell their vaccination status, I generally assume they are unvaccinated.
When republican politicians (especially the >65 crowd) refuse to tell their vaccination status, I assume they ARE vaccinated but want to continue to pander to their voting base that they are “sticking it to the left” by not getting vaccinated. 🙄
100%
Meanwhile those athletes probably won’t mind if you ask them about their past injuries.
Politicians know what the electorate wants to hear
Yeah, that's usually how it works.
Sounds like a good rule of thumb.
I actually had to push back on someone using HIPAA as an excuse, but also ended it with , "but I'll leave that up to the lawyers.". Glad to see a lawyer breaking it down!
What I find funny is how those same people react as tourists. HIPAA is US only, so they often assume that Canada and UK sells their info on the black market, while they are protected by PIPEDA and GDPR respectively.
@@Maninawig The UK is no longer covered by GDPR but I get your point
@@nathanmckenzie904 You are very much wrong about that. They haven't departed from it yet. UK is currently making plans for their own plan but they are still covered under GDPR to this day.
@@anteshell I thought GDPR covered EU countries. Is this one of those holdover rules?
@@anteshell looked it up, they have a cut and paste version of GDPR that the EU will comply with.
Thank you forbthe correction
"There is an argument. It's wrong, but there is an argument." I like this. I'm going to use it at the next available opportunity.
As someone that had to learn HIPAA to do my job, I did a choking laugh the first time I heard someone say, "But HIPAA protects me from disclosing vaccine information." Um no, that's not the way that works.
I had someone in the twitterverse basically argue this same point with me. They didnt take my word for it so I screen grabbed the definition of hipaa to the feed. Silence. Of course.
@@joeymessantonio4356 The issue there is the keyboard commandos in Twitterverse think they are experts in everything because someone else told them without any factual information to prove it.
@@GeminiKnight76 The world would be a different place if any effort had been made to teach adults how to verify information on the internet once we started using it in everyday life. Get a computer or smartphone, and you have to pass a test for the internet to work. It's only been like the last 20 years, schools started teaching kids how to verify their sources when doing research projects. Everyone basically 35-40 + has no idea what they're doing. Bonsai kittens, Nigerian princes, pyramid scheme retooled as "multi-level marketing", fake accounts, disinformation, and misinformation, and those poor bastards never learned how to tell what was real and what wasn't. How to look up information to see if it was true.
@@Nevertoleave Not everyone over the age of 35 is internet incompetent. I'm 45 and I know how to do searches for reliable sources that are not Twitter or any other social media.
HIPAA is only there to make sure the companies you give that info don't go giving it out to others without harsh penalties or fines. HIPAA does not prevent a place from requesting information of a medical nature from you. These people are getting that confused which is silly. That being said there is valid reason to be concerned about normalizing having to give more of yourself to a company and even the core of the issue is that the slope is very slippery when it comes to sharing anything that could be looked down upon. If you normalize handing over medical records to employers then you may get discriminated against for things like insurance where you have conditions and the company does not want to cover you. The HIPAA thing is a joke , but the concern still is not.
"Here's Marjorie Taylor Green getting it completely wrong"
So business as usual then.
Rule of thumb if MTG explains anything, then it's wrong, or the complete opposite.
From the stable genius that coined "Jewish Space Lasers," we got this HIPAA bullsh*t.
💅🙄
It's gotten to the point that you can become a member of the GOP with the IQ of a carrot.
She got her JD from tRump univirsarry!
@@eduardomantilla2143 What a vicious and unnecessary insult! What did carrots ever do to you?
@@tigerofdoom
Carrot GANG for life! 🥕
My dad helped write the HIPAA laws. It was a big part of his life when I was a kid. I’m now a medical professional. I’ve never seen him so angry as when I tell him about all the weird ways people try to invoke HIPAA… especially when they call it HIPPA.
Intelligent people, generally, become frustrated with ignorance. My mummy, who has a photographic memory, becomes frustrated with me because I don't have a photographic memory; gee go figure. She calms down after I explain most people don't have that ability. Brilliant & very intelligent humans are in their own world & thoughts. Interesting, to read your father helped out with the law. Stay safe. v
I work for a hospital in the IT department, I’m not an expert, but have some sense what constitutes a HIPAA violation. Because of the time and care we put into protecting PHI and complying with HIPAA, it irritates me when people talk unintelligently about what it is.
I took a radiology certification class that i didn't end up pursuing, and that little bit of HIPAA that i learned/remember is enough to know that MTG and other's takes on HIPAA is laughable and terribly ignorant
oooh the 'my dad is better than your dad"
I mean in your case he probably is. After all, his kid isn’t leaving weird, contextually inappropriate troll messages on a 6 month old post. 😉
The greatest thing is, that people who answer "this is a hipaa violation" regarding their Vax status just use a long winded way of saying "no"
So, are you vaxinated?
"you can't ask me that, that's a HIPPA violation!"
I can hear you misspelling that and I think we're done here, you can leave now.
Tobias Gorgan is antivaxxer and white supremacist
@@Luinta OK antivaxxer. Check your white privlege
@@a.i.contacttracer305 I genuinely can't tell if you're extremely confused or being purposefully dense.
no, thy are also showing how stupid they are.
A patient recently told us that sending him text reminders of his appointments is a HIPAA violation.
The things people come up with..
Edit to add: I can't speak for other places, but you sign paperwork regarding this at the initial consultation with my company. It's also asked at registration. 100% doing it to be a pain.
Those texts... are hugely useful and convinient. Some people are just on a quest to complain.
this is why science education is important...
@@TehMomo_ ill do you one better: this is why _education_ as a whole is important
🤣
I mean, I could see the argument if it was done without consent or without the appropriate privacy disclosure. My understanding is that there are established guidelines for secure transmission of information and SMS/MMS is by no means secure. But this is all stuff the patient agrees/consents to when they (possibly blindly) sign all the intake papers.
"I can't tell you whether things are right or wrong: I'm just a lawyer" is my favorite quote of the day.
@Sarah
All the while he’s telling you exactly what to think about HIPAA.
@@johnmacrae2006 really?
Where did he do that?
Please provide timestamps or quotes.
As far as I can tell he only listed facts.
@13:10
@@Jehty_
I should have said that he’s telling you exactly what to think about the entire vaccination issue; he’s clearly for the mandate.
@@johnmacrae2006 again: timestamp or quote...
To be fair, MTG is quite literally paid to loudly misunderstand things, so no real surprises there.
yeah, kinda like AOC
Why are you hating on Magic: The Gathering
I'm pretty sure she'd loudly misunderstand things for free.
@@itkojecockot man AOC is doing a terrible job them, she tends to be correct on most of the issues she brings up.
But yes MTG is the Republican version of AOC… which is to say “take something functional and make a shit show version which isn’t based in reality”.
Republicans tend to hate her because she keeps embarrassing their most “promising” members like Ted Cruz”.
@@LividImp If you're good at something, never do it for free.
"I can't tell you whether it's right or wrong. I'm just a lawyer." Near perfect summation of law in terms of moral philosophy.
Yes, many people don't seem to understand that "but it's the law" doesn't mean that something is "right".
Even ignoring for now that this is entirely subjective.
I have actually had a real HIPAA violation in my life when my dentist refused to provide my dental records so I could give them to my new dentist. (She had performed some negligently bad work on a tooth so I wasn't just like moving or something.) Anyway, I filed a complaint with the federal department of Health and Human Services, I think it was. It took them 3 months to decide to investigate and another 3 months to investigate, but they did and I won. Indio, she able to claim ignorance and got put on probation with no real consequences, but it was an interesting experience. She had refused to provide them to me, refused to provide them at my new dentist's request, refused the insurance company's request, and even refused when I came with a police officer as a civil standby to get them at the insurance company's recommendation.
That’s interesting though. Usually people think of HIPAA as releasing information that shouldn’t be. I hadn’t thought about refusing to release information you’re required to.
@@nathanlamberth7631 yeah. I wondered if she was committing some kind of insurance fraud although I wasn't able to figure out any in my case. I had a friend in dental hygiene school and we actually compared all of the dental records with my insurance records and what was actually visible in my mouth. After HHS found in my favor, she actually tried calling the police to help block giving me the records, but they wouldn't touch it. I don't know what was going on, but it was definitely shady and definitely weird.
Weird! The only thing I can imagine is if she did something completely wrong and didn't tell you, so the records were correct but didn't want you to get them?
For example, I found out 10yrs later that I had oral surgery to remove the wrong teeth when I was 15. Like the orders were correct, the records were correct, but the teeth removed weren't the ones that should have been (upper jaw vs lower).
I don't understand how professional athletes suddenly want "medical privacy" since pretty much everything about their bodies is meticulously documented on a regular basis
@Rap Moreno
I would want as much privacy as possible.
It's more about avoiding getting injected with an experimental drug whose side effects can destroy their ability to perform their sport than "medical privacy". But keep pretending heart inflammation, blood clots, and who knows what else isn't a debilitating risk factor.
@@elgatofelix8917 so if those are the reasons why they don't want to be vaccinated why even bring HIPAA into it?
Why not say "I don't want to be vaccinated"?
Maybe all the steroids already destroyed their balls?
@@elgatofelix8917
Six months of three rounds of clinical trials
First non-trial vaccines have been administered for nearly a year
We get similar vaccines for other coronaviruses like the flu every year and have been for decades
600,000 dead Americans
The reactions you're talking about have numbers in the double digits
@@selfloathinggameing exactly the type of nonsense spouted by somebody who thinks playing Russian Roulette is a safe bet because only one bullet is loaded into the chamber. Yeah you're "smart"
As a therapist who’s done LOTS of work with Medicaid patients, I can’t help but lose my marbles whenever I hear someone tell a non medical professional that they’re violating HIPAA… it’s literally impossible to do that 😳
I'm becoming a therapist and currently work in a direct patient care rope at a behavioral health facility and yup to everything you just said lol.
It just boils down to the fact that people are stupid, and the people who maintain most of the power have a vested interest in keeping them that way.
Given how many people seem to be going crazy about this, you may have a lot of new therapist patients.
As a former behavioral therapist... same. Drives me nuts. >_>
as someone who just barely paid attention at school am baffeled how many grown people still have so many confusing interpretations on theier rights & obligations.
As an employee of a covered entity under HIPAA, I had to take annual training on HIPAA rules. Every time I see someone mentioning HIPAA these days on TV or internet I cringe at the ridiculousness of their claims.
I'm not even in the medical field but I cringed when I heard people calling the vaccine the "mark of the beast" and compared a Vaccination record card to "Nazi markings."
I want to know what the “HEPA law” is because HEPA is a filtration system.😂
What kind of filtration system?
@@SaraphDarklaw A HEPA filter is a “high-efficiency particulate air” filter. We have them on our vacuums and air circulation systems in hospitals. They’re just the most effective filters from keeping particles out of the air.
😹
Sounds like an OSHA thing, for very dusty work environments.
@@SaraphDarklaw asking that is a HEPA violation
I think we should see this a bonding moment. Even if you’re rich and famous enough to get the best lawyers in the world, you’ll probably still get your legal advice from some idiot on Twitter.
For me it's so funny that I a country where your employer can ask for a drug test you cry about the question "are you vaccinated?"
Also how many other vaccines have they had? Why are they treating this one differenctly?
No, a vaccine will not cause birth defects or render them sterile should they decide to have children. Yes, the corona vaccine is safe, certainly safer than the virus it protects against. Especially given the 100 of millions of jabs that have been given so far.
It's honestly not even about health at this point. So many unvaccinated just refuse to trust the government and want to fight the laws mandating it.
If you ask me, they have good reason. America's government makes a habit of pissing on your head to just tell you it is rain.
How I’ve been introduced to 2 bosses was handing them a cup of my warm pee. I would much rather have shown them a vaccine card.
@@MB-dk6hk Hmmm, so by that logic, 6 + decades of vaccinating children before allowing them to attend public school...that rain is really just piss? Personally, NO, hell no. Did you ever attend schools that had numerous kids suffering from polio? If not, search for "polio vaccine." Maybe the 4 SCOTUS rulings were fake too, concerning vaccine mandates, or... blab with no information. An opinion, carry on M B!
These people must have forgotten the VACCINE BOOKLETS they needed to have completed before they could even attend kindergarten. 🙃
The thing that really gets me is that I've had several conversations where I've explained HIPAA with documentation for said explanation and they just keep going. Also as a disabled person who has to sometimes seek ADA accommodations, it's flabbergasting to me how little people know about that law and how it works while the insist on invoking it. It's truly a classic case of "you can't fix stupid", especially when it's willful.
Why i love this channel and feel I can trust him as a reliable source of information:
"I can't tell you whether things are right or wrong, I'm just a lawyer. But, I'm a lawyer, i can tell you whether their legal or not."
The most honest thing I've ever heard a lawyer say.
Never trust a lawyer who makes his living making RUclips videos about his opinions on law.
@@markgprobably What about one who is an Adjunct Professor Of Law at Georgetown University Law Center, and a trial lawyer with his own firm?
They're*
@@markgprobably mans is making this to educate the public not make a living lolol
Most of the people who don't understand HIPAA spell it "HIPPA", so that's a nice indicator.
HIPAAron Rodgers
HIPPO rights as it were.
The people who use celebrities as a source of information are also the people who tell you they do their own research
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think there are several overlapping circles there.
Of course, because celebrities are experts in everything. That's why they get paid so much money. /End sarcasm
"We need to stop America from becoming a show your papers society". So when a cop pulls me over and asks for my driver's license and registration, should I just flip him the bird and keep driving?
You can try, but as a cop friend once told me, when you get pulled over, you are technically under arrest. So, driving off will also get you a charge of evading arrest. So, instead, just flip him/her the bird and tell her/him that Madison Cawthorn said this shouldn't be a "show me your papers society". 🙂
Just give them a water bottle and say you're doing your part in keeping cops hydrated and be off on your way!
Oh grow up!
Actually you can request a lawyer on site but gov simps like you don't know that
You technically don’t have to show the cop your drivers license, but you would be held until you can be identified and your car would be impounded because the cop would say they have probably cause that you committed a crime. It would be your word vs a government employee’s, so guess who the government would believe? The fifth amendment protects you from saying anything including giving your information over. You can ask “am I being detained and am I free to go?”. If you are being detained, you can invoke the fifth amendment. If you are not, you can drive off
As someone with a degree in administrative medical office management: first, flashbacks to my school years throughout this whole video. Second it is hilarious how much people like to cling to hipaa as if it applies in every situation to everyone when if that were the case asking for things like allergy information or even just "are you sick?" Would be highly illegal.
Some guy had a heart attack, I had to let him die because I didn't want to violate his HIPAA by giving him CPR. Shoot, I just broke the law by telling that story!
I did IT work in healthcare for about a decade. I joke HIPAA is engraved on my soul.
@@vogelaccount5902 In fairness it really FEELS like "privacy" should be in there somewhere.
"How are you?" *gets cuffed and read Miranda rights*
@@starlady98 I am still in IT in healthcare. lol. sadly, medical professional violate HIPAA on a daily basis.
Finally!! I work in Health Insurance - put down your torches and pitchforks, please - and it is nice that someone covered this because all the HIPAA videos make me laugh...
It's both sad and laughable. They want to throw out the claim but likely have no idea what it actually means
I'm still waiting for a mini Karen to cry about how her granny violated HIPAA by complaining about her rhumatoïde arthritis
My facility has been dealing with this also.
@@claratalbot7613 Kinda like "Socialism" economic policy or most anything else.
Me too. I’m a paralegal and those comments make me laugh.
I'm a software developer whose made various HR and medical software apps over the years, and HIPAA tends to have way more impact on developers and IT in terms of how the software needs to be written, to what levels of encryption and security, and what sort of access logs need to be recorded for auditing purposes. From what I've seen, it's mostly concerned with the "middle men" and third parties to ensure no more information than is needed for a given context is shared
Yep, software development and cyber security are probably hit harder by HIPAA and HITECH than doctors are.
Got my bachelors in programming and now do cyber security so I've seen it from both ends.
It's fun explaining to nurses that no, they can't send the really cool/gnarly x-ray to their girlfriends because it has a patient's name and PII on it for the thousandth time... not.
I'd be very interested in learning what kinds of requirements there are for that, as a fellow software dev
Software engineer and worked in pharmacy for 13 years, it has to do with privacy in general. If a person stands too close to you while I’m talking about your medical information, is a violation. If i start looking up peoples medical information at work... just because... it’s a violation.
@@Jcewazhere Can't the nurses just ask the patient for permission to take a photo of the Xray that doesn't show their name on it? I know I have had nurses ask me similar questions about photos in medical settings. Since I give them permission for it, then it shouldn't be a HIPAA violation.
As for why I get asked it a lot, I have a very cute service dog that most nurses love. I usually say yes since I don't care if people know that I was at a specific office and that's the only information that can come from the photo. Which is usually information that I already freely share with other people anyway
That’s what google told me too, nailed it
As a lawyer who represents injured workers, bringing a claim essentially makes your medical history fair game for a fishing expedition by the insurance company to try and find a way to deny your claim. HIPAA-RGH!!!
I get why people would be surprised when that bites them, but it makes sense
Username checks out
Every time someone says they don't think the government should have any conditions on their personal health choices in the workplace, I ask them if they'd have a problem with a pilot high on meth flying them on their next trip. That usually shuts em up.
💯👍 or their surgeon being high during surgery, that should be fun 🤣
Well I'd take meth over heroin for my pilots
Honestly they shouldn’t have, it should be a rule put in place but the company itself. Like Southwest Airlines or Volaris, it should be up to them how much experience a pilot has before he can fly, or what condition the pilot must he to fly. Because at the end of the day, if people are unsatisfied with their flight, they can choose to not go. Profits will suffer because of their poor choice making, and they will either improve flying or health conditions, or go bankrupt. And since your on the topic of pilots and airplanes, didn’t Southwest Airlines listen to the governances mandates that their employee must vaccinate, and what happened? Canceled or extremely delayed flights? And the Southwest said it was because of weather or turbulence? Lying to the public for following a government mandate because their pilots and employees walked out.
@@HarpaxA A surgeon is not a very good comparison to the top comment. A surgeon, when he walks in to perform surgery on somebody, their will always be liability. If he goes in under the influence or high, he is liable for you. And you would be able to sue him because of that. But those rules wouldn’t need to be put there by the government, the company itself could have installed them.
It would depend on if it's his first flight of the day or his 10th flight of the day.
Oh hey! I'm in the video around 1 minute. Yeah I got Hippa mixed up with the hippocratic oath and was still wrong! I loved having this sent to me by my friend. Thanks for covering the topic since yeah, there's a lot of uninformed people on twitter (me included) that talk about random shit we don't know about!
did you see the part where he said it’s HIPAA not HIPPA? or are you doing this by accident? Lol
@@sosayweall_jpg Did you see the part where he said he's 1 minute into the video? or are you doing this by accident? Lol
sorry, I couldn't resist
@@sosayweall_jpg I said that ironically since it's how I spelt it then lol
Kudos for reacting within reason and accepting your mistake. Wish there were more people like this
@@whoawtf7419 I laugh at it, being wrong is normal + I made a mistake, no reason to die on the hill, to be quite frank that photo was taken a few months ago and I rarely go on twitter so much anymore since I dislike all the politics.
"Help I'm Pedantically Producing Acronyms!" Really made my day 😂
*Pronouncing
HIPAA is 1 P and 2 A's
@@rzawistowski33 Yes, that was the point. It's in the video, at 4:07 with the actual HIPAA acronym above it, in order to demonstrate exactly what you just said.
@@yf-n7710 yeah, I know. I was mocking this commenter who clearly spelt it wrong with their acronym
@@LisaBeergutHolst 4:07 Producing*
I was the HIPAA compliance/implementation officer at my old medical practice. Asking if someone has been vaccinated, is not a violation. Hacking and getting the info without her permission, is a violation.
Best comment, "Don't ask me about what's right or wrong, I'm a lawyer." 😂😂😂
Honestly yeah. I think that's a sign of a good lawyer, when they are not willing to talk about the morality of what they do. Because the law dousnt care about morality. It only cares about the law.
morality is societies job to split hairs over. a lawyers job is to split hairs over the verbiage of whatever words were written into some bs claimed to be the law.
@@adamlivesay1973 correction, it abt Money. If u gave money to the guy in the video, he would also favor u.
Does this also mean Joe Rogan might not be a good source of medical knowledge? That's unpossible.
Someone call GB
His doctor might be tho
That’s crazy
Joe Rogan may not be a good source for medical knowledge, but he IS the source for all mass produced HGH. They get it by taking him down to the squeezing room.
And his quack doctors
I work at a medical device company, so I'm required to retake HIPAA training on an annual basis even though I don't handle PHI in any part of my job. When people use HIPAA as a sort of trump-card against requirements like vaccinations makes my eyes roll back into my skull.
It’s just another moving of the goalposts to bolster the antivax mentality. “Protecting HIPAA” sounds more logical and better informed than “I don’t wanna! 😫”
You just informed us that you have a medical condition that makes your eyes roll back when hearing misinformation. You just violated your HIPPA ⬅️ rights
You said “trump”. Lol
When Devin looks at his desk and mutters for a moment, you know he's encountered something so ridiculous that he needed a moment to recover.
I've worked in healthcare for over 30 years now, and I keep wanting to make these people read the training materials and take the annual quiz before they ever say "HIPAA" again. I could get reprimanded or fired if I don't pass the annual HIPAA training, but apparently they can spout all sorts of nonsense with a straight face.
I'd be fine if they just wanted to cite a patient's right to privacy, but nooooo. They have to indulge in this verbal cosplay.
Only 10 years here, and yeah...
@Oracle Mun
So do patients have privacy rights?
@@johnmacrae2006
HIPAA prevents healthcare providers, AND ONLY HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, from releasing healthcare information with any identifying information. No one but the organization(s) that provide those health services needs to abide by HIPAA.
Patients have the right to refuse to release vaccination records, legally, but 3rd parties (like employers) are free to punish them for doing so. As those parties are under no HIPAA obligations.
@@johnmacrae2006 Under a hospital's by-laws, yes. Under professional codes of ethics, yes. I can't really comment on the specifics of any state or federal laws, but I do know that a patient's medical records can be released to a parent/guardian (in cases where the patient is a minor or otherwise unable to participate in their medical care/decisions), and that doesn't usually require anything beyond identification of the parent/guardian.
The delivery on, “That doesn’t even make sense,” is the funniest thing ever.
Really great to see HEPA filters getting the love and credit they deserve for once. /s
Your daily reminder that the real filter, the great filter, approaches faster than ever before. And it'll be all our faults.
Naw we already past the great universal filter it’s becoming intelligent life.
So you know go squad!
@@RusticRonnie nah there is more than one potential great filter spot which is hard to figure out which one it is. Kutzguzart made a vid on it and yeah its hard to see it coming ESP when we don't have other species to compare it to
Bro it's spelled HIPPA not HEPA /s
The funniest thing about all this is, I've seen people here in Australia try and claim that hipaa, hippa, hippo and various other things protects them from being asked things. Also happens people here try and plead the fifth with police. Its kind of entertaining/embarrassing.
Ammmmmericca, world citizen.
I've heard of US citizens claiming US constitutional rights in other countries (usually to the laughter of the local authorities), but this is a new one on me. Maybe Aussies watch too many US cop shows ?
things that *are* HIPAA violations:
finding a patient on facebook or texting them from your private phone regarding a non-healthcare matter
things that arent HIPAA violations
asking for proof of vaccination at a private company's front door
I work at a children’s hospital. I’ve had parents reach out to me over social media to ask about hospital stuff. Does hipaa go into that?
@@rachelcoates9041 kinda. HIPAA requires that medical facilities keep the information secure. Is Facebook secure?
@@Gothicsilencer no. I never have answered the parents. They aren’t asking me about anything medical, just if the hospital is busy or to gossip about the staff. I don’t answer, of course. I just think it’s weird.
@@rachelcoates9041 seeing as the information was accessed by patients and not staff, it isnt a hipaa violation i would guess, but it is still an invasion of your privacy as a medical care provider. hipaa doesnt protect providers' information, it protects patients' private health info and personally identifiable info
"Hippa" is the Finnish word for the game of tag but "Help I'm pedantically Producing Acronyms" sound like a fun game too
Funny thing is, an old game called Acrophobia was pretty much that
Is NAACP an acronym or an initialism since we typically say N double A CP
We Anglophobes, do love our acronyms. But still that's fighting talk, and O wouldn't start a puukkohippa over HIPPA with the heavily-armed American populace.
I love how so many of them call it "HIPPA" instead of "HIPAA". I was a pharmacy technician starting in 1998 and had to get training in HIPAA. So this past year has been pretty hilarious.
It's the one and only thing about all of the crazy that makes some amount of sense. By usual English rules, HIPPA would be the correct spelling for the way people generally pronounce the acronym. Of course, acronyms have no requirement to follow English spelling rules (such as they are)...
Same here. I had to take a class on HIPAA when I interned at Epic Systems
You know it's going to be an idiotic take whenever you see HIPPA
Same. I was an IT tech at a medical facility in 2000 and had to get trained on HIPAA laws. First time I heard someone use this excuse I was like, you LITERALLY have no idea what you are talking about here. Basically if you are not working in medicine or health care, HIPAA doesn't apply to you. Joe schmuck can go through your trash and find your medication and its NOT a HIPAA violation. Maybe a bunch of other violations and laws, but not HIPAA.
Worked for a health insurance company... had yearly trainings about what is and isn't a HIPAA violation. The last two years have been a continuous eye-roll for me.
I love how you added the point you need papers to send your kid to school I feel like people forget the fact that you have to get certain vaccines and other healthcare things to put your kid through school
As someone who works with HIPAA every single working day of my life, it’s nice to finally see someone explaining correctly how it works and not using it as an excuse to be a butthole.
Proctologist
As someone who works in the health insurance industry, I find it both sad and alarming how many people - particularly those IN MEDICINE - misquote and hide behind this group of laws.
It's just another reminder that no group of humans in any occupation: Cops, legislators, astronauts, teachers, doctors, managers... are all going to be free of idiots. Some percentage of people will have bumbled their way into the ranks of the successfully employed.
And usually those people are the loudest
@@imightbebiased9311 I mean, a former friend of mine who was a dang PA is anti vaxx because “religion” and got fired for it…yeah, I have no sympathy whatsoever for that.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 that’s because people don’t understand the religious protections either. While your employer must make reasonable accommodations, they can let you go if the requirements prevent you from doing a job. If my religion says I can’t wear any safety gear, you’d better believe I can get termed from a construction site.
@@Rhewin Oh I’m with you. Vaccines have nothing at all to do with religious practices anyway and it’s maddening that that’s where we are right now…
"thousands of Marjorie Taylor Greenes" sounds like a literal circle of hell
As a Republican, I can tell you that most reasonable Republicans think she's just awful as well. I'm just waiting for her to legally change her name to Karen
Ironically enough having thousands of Ms 'Jewish Space Lasers' running around fighting against vaccine mandates _is_ like Nazi Germany (where they rolled back previously existing vaccine mandates).
@@dynamicworlds1 Well that's because the right is great at projecting what they're doing onto others.
@@dynamicworlds1 They also forced a demonized minority to undergo experimental medical treatments.
13:15 "It would be illegal to mandate a vaccine because doing so requires the government to find out who has been vaccinated". Here in Australia ALL vaccinations provided have to be recorded in a federal government database called the Australian Immunisation Register. And it's from this database that we are able to download our own proof of vaccinations.
As Republicans have been saying for decades: if you don't like what you're employer is requiring, go get another job.
That I think is totally acceptable. It's very different for the government to declare that all jobs must operate a certain way, regardless of whether they wish to
@@DandDgamer Like requiring that your employer can't store radioactive waste next to you? The gall.
@@DandDgamer or requiring that heavy machinery that can rip your arm off, not be within arms reach. How dare they.
@@DandDgamer right. It would be unbelievable if the federal government created some sort of administrational agency that enacted regulations pertaining to the occupational safety and health of employees, and penalized employers who violated said regulations.
Wait…
@@DandDgamer Damn those guard rails in the factory! Damn Feds over stepping their bounds. My company shouldn't have to waste money on the rails, if employees over step their bounds and die in a fall, it should be on them.
As someone whom is both a medical provider and currently completing a masters in healthcare administration and business administration I 100% agree with your assessment of the interpretive gymnastics people seem to take when it comes to HIPAA. What I would love to see as a short or another segment that would be more of a thought experiment would be the intersection of the Texas abortion bounty law in the context of HIPAA as they would have to prove someone got an abortion but how can they do that without the patient's records? Is that something they could FOIA from the provider? Can they even seek a judgement without absolute proof the person received the procedure as they could have miscarried naturally which ended the pregnancy. Can the patient counter sue for defamation if they didn't actually have an abortion?
I believe your heath record are supeanable.
A medical provider can be subpoenaed to provide health records and medical information. This would be another page in the large book of Republican hypocrisy.
Republicans: "My medical records are private, and nobody has the right to see them!"
Also Republicans: "Let me force this doctor to tell me if this lady had an abortion so I can make an easy $10k"
@@wmeuse2375 If for example they could subpoena the records and ask for "only records that would be pertinent to patient having received an abortion" then doesn't this mean by handing over the records the patient has self-incriminated themselves? Also can a doctor override a patient confidentiality when the medical information being disclosed doesn't rise to the burden required which would be clear and immediate harm being present. Where exactly do the lines intersect between a doctors duty to HIPAA privacy and the courts ability to access and request a patients confidential medical information without their permission in the context of discovery?
That's why I was asking if he could cover it as it's kind of grey all around.
@@Xayentist I think the right against self-incrimination only applies to compelled testimony; I seriously doubt medical records would qualify any more than, for example, incriminating emails. Also, who*
@@justoneman13 "The Fifth Amendment of the Constitution protects a person from being compelled to incriminate oneself. Self-incrimination may also be referred to as self-crimination or self-inculpation."
The logic is that PHI is considered private, unlike company emails, and by definition the law or subpoena requesting said information that would be compelling the person to give evidence that would incriminate themselves otherwise and that also would include the fact that the person could or could not have even performed an abortion in the first place.
So in essence they would be asking for a subpoena to discover were or not they did something illegal not one to collect evidence of probable cause they did something against the law. So again my question still remains regardless if the terms aren't specific to the exact phrasing of self-incrimination we would typically see in criminal cases as this is already a strange law in the first place being enforced by the general public and not law enforcement officers.
Wait, MTG said something that was laughable and demonstrably wrong?
I'm truly shaken to my core.
As a person who plays Magic: the Gathering, I hate that acronym
@@SandsBuisle As a recovering OCD it bothers me you didn't call it an intialism.
@@SandsBuisle I don't play much magic anymore, but I prefer to call her "Ms. 'Jewish Space Lasers'"
It takes longer to type, but I'm pretty insistent on the "Never Again" thing, so the constant reminder so no-one forgets for a second what she is is worth it.
Not being the same acronym as a card game is a side bonus, and even more reason to call her that for fans of the game.
I work for a health insurance company, every time a politician says HIPAA I want to bang my head on my desk. I booked mark the CDC's page on HIPAA in case somebody ever tries to pull it with me.
As someone who used to volunteer at a hospital a few years back, hearing people throw around the term "HIPAA" so incorrectly and with such confidence is bewildering. Feels like an episode of the twilight zone.
Stupidity is often accompanied by a large volume of confidence. If they were not so stupid they would be less confident.
@@FoolOfATuque could I frame your words, and displayed everywhere ? 🤣
"It's wrong, but there is an argument"
If I didn't already know you were a lawyer, that's all I'd need to hear
I pity anybody who takes this channel seriously for legal advice and analysis. Just one look at this clown's video history shows it's nothing political propaganda masquerading as entertainment.
@@elgatofelix8917 one question:
Is political propaganda only bad if it doesn't correlate with your views?
I mean Fox News is a TV channel that doesn't do anything but political propaganda. Do you also resent that?
@@Jehty_ of course I resent that. Fox is no better than CNN. Way to show how hopelessly stuck in your echo chamber you are that you automatically assume anybody who expresses a dissenting opinion from your precious establishment is a Fox "news" viewer.
What next? You'll accuse me of supporting a VAX pusher like Trump? 😅😅😅
@@elgatofelix8917 it's just that all the comments you wrote under this video could be 1:1 from Fox News.
So where did you get your talking points if not from Fox?
@@Jehty_ lol what a load of BS. Here's a thought: maybe I actually think for myself and come to my own conclusions based on independent observations and personal experience. I know that's unfathomable for NPCs like you who let propagandists like LegalWeasel tell you what to think.
Any time someone says "you can't ask that, that is a HIPAA violation" what they are really saying is "I don't want to tell you, but I'm going to make up some excuse that makes you sound like the bad guy for asking me even though I am the person being stubborn."
Had someone ranting about there "friend's" inability to get a religious exemption for the same thing. My answer, if they had given a shit, and not been a complete flipping nutcase about *everything* for the last 5 years, would have been, "Pulling a deeply held belief about a specific vaccine out of your ass, which your 'church' never had until now, and which you contradicted over and over again by stating that you specifically planned to use this excuse to not get a vaccination, and not because you actually appose vaccines, etc., does not qualify you, your friend, or any other random idiot, for a flipping exemption. And, this is the case despite how much you misquote scripture, or try to claim that your local church supports you, as a means of 'proving it'."
But, nope, the fact that many people do somehow manage to get them, while others, on "both sides" of the political fence try, but fail to, for all sorts of insane BS, kind of contradicts the "theory" that this is some conspiracy, directed specifically at flipping conservatives who get their medical advice from Joe Rogan, or their not-actually-a-doctor chiropractor. Or, at least it bloody shouldn't. But.. this is mass hysteria on a level of Europe during the Black Plague, and, just like then, they are looking for their modern version of, "Its all caused by witches and black cats", instead of being "preventable" with basic flipping hygiene.
Sigh...
They're all concerned about a person's right to medical privacy when it comes to vaccinations but seem to recklessly disregard it when it comes to reproductive health.
this comment is so underrated!!
Thats an icy cold burn and i love it
Nailed it!
So you're saying that murdering someone should be protected? The Constitution, not HIPAA, protect individuals from disclosing private information. While there are certainly times an individual can be excluded from some things a vaccine that requires four shots and counting isn't exactly codified in the law. Some of us remember the same attempts of pushing the Anthrax vaccine. Then there was H1N1. Now we are repeating the same exercise in futility that even the (P)resident admitted it was not legal. Science, as it were, isn't easily defined in law.
As for abortions, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness isn't limited to those who can vote, in fact it is precisely for those who are vulnerable, also known as, unborn children.
You’re right it’s your medical right to keep your information about what you do with your reproductive life is your business since it’s a legal practice in healthcare. Our side isn’t concerned with HIPAA, but the practice itself.
I work as an Emergency psych clinician and I have clients threaten to sue when I talk to their therapist/clinicians about their current mental status. Note: during Emergency situations (a mental health evaluation counts) we can obtain information. We can't share information unless given permission, if they are adults - but we can 100% talk to their doctors or whomever we need to know if they are safe to discharge or not
I work for a psychiatrist. Can confirm. Current meds are exceptionally important!
Ironic. I was an exchange student in the US back in 2008, and towards the end of the year I was pulled from class and held in GUARANTEE until my parents could fax my vaccine certificates from my home country 😅 No one was yelling nazi germany and HIPAA violations back then in the conservative area I lived in 🤭
US holding foreigners against their will until verification?
NO WAY
[Sarcasm]
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Ironically, I don't think that it was a HIPAA violation since the entity giving out the information and thus probably not bound by US laws even if it had been done without your consent. It's not illegal for anyone request it as far as I know.
@@DocPetron of course it wasn’t a violation of anything. What I meant is that it’s ironic how people are suddenly so upset about getting asked about their vaccine statuses even though that has been going on for ages 🤷♀️
Is guarantee supposed to be quarantine?
@@HSMfanatic17 yes. I quarantine you that you’re correct
That prostester with the sign with "Nuremberg Code" shows how informed the people making these claims are.
I'm guessing a lot of them are against race-mixing too ◔_◔
Edit: apparently I was thinking of the wrong Nuremberg Code. Point still stands though.
While I always find your videos interesting, this one stood out. I never considered how civilians interact with HIPAA vs my military experience. HIPAA is a large part of my job as a supervisor, always weighing personnel decisions concerning health issues on the legality of what I can ask for and what can be decided on. For instance, military member says he has a medical appointment and thus can not be at work as those are mandatory in the military. I can not ask the military doctor what he is being seen for, but I can call and check to make sure the appointment is legit if I have reason to think the member is skipping out of work. No simple calling in sick in the military. So, its pretty funny to see it being brought to the attention of the public in such a bizarre way.
Of course, immunizations are also mandatory in the military, a simple check box and get back to work. Hell, we even do immunizations in entire groups. So, the fight over immunizations is also bizarre and hilarious to me.
Me 2. Fighting over vaccinations is bizarre. v
I remember going through basic training in the '90s... we were all marched as a group to a small building where we waited outside and in a line were filled through and given a shot. We didn't get to object, we didn't even get told where we were going until we got there.
@@Amradorn hell, can you imagine a recruit trying to object given what's going on today...lol I'd pay to watch that go down.
I just want to thank you. I watched this yesterday, and today I'm filling out onboarding paperwork for a new job that includes stuff on HIPAA (and other legal things). This video, along with others you've put out, have been a massive help in increasing just my baseline understanding of all the stuff I am reading. (Some of it has even been interesting because I understand what's being talked about instead of just glazing through it.) I really appreciate the education you've provided.
Imagine being wheeled into the Emergency in obvious pain and the MO asks what's wrong so patient said "You can't ask me my medical history, I am protected by HIPAA!"
Don't joke, I had a massage client do it.
I love how medicine and law takes years and years of intense education and study yet every karen and kevin believe they are more qualified than anyone of these people.
Dunning Kruger at its finest.
I know it's weird, with the amount of medical and law experts that I see every where these days you'd think we would of collectively cured cancer by now
I wonder if Aaron Rodgers asks his doctor how to beat Cover-2
@@rakkatytam So you agree with the top comment in regards to the Dunning Kruger Effect? Anyway, you gave a great example, thanks.
@@creativedesignation7880 Yep!
I graduated the class of Google Medical School, class of every time I sign on the interwebs!
Thank you for posting this. As a Healthcare Compliance Professional, it is nice to have someone in the public eye comment to correct these people.
My response to all of them: "okay, call the HIPAA cops and have them deal with me instead."
"Marjorie Taylor Greene getting it completely wrong" doesn't narrow it down, Lawbird Supreme*.
(* - I am far more comfortable with the claim that you are indeed the supreme bird of law than I am with any claims made by MTG.)
I thought you meant magic the gathering for a minute....
Lawbird Supreme is such a funny nickname für legal eagle
@@celestiallions4050 SAME.
@@celestiallions4050 Wow, now she irks me even more for ruining one of my favorite childhood games.
Lawbird Supreme is the lawyer for the Sorcerer Supreme.
""... Unless they are HIPAA certified" That doesn't even make sense." For some reason I can't stop laughing at this reaction and it's delivery. :)))
I am in nursing school, and I have never heard of “HIPAA certified”. What even is that? If it exists, they never mentioned it to us
@@finneyhamster9106 It doesn't exist. It is a figment of their imaginations and presumptions that they know what the hell they are talking about.
They usually mean HIPAA-eligible or HIPAA-compliant
HIPAA is a law you comply with, not certified. There are compliance frameworks you can get certified in that demonstrate HIPAA compliance, but that's a bit different
@@finneyhamster9106 it's probably because they worked somewhere they had to take a training course, and at the end of it they got a certificate from HR or whatever that "I completed this training course." Nothing that has any actual meaning outside of their specific employer, just that they took the class.
@@the_synack I doubt that's what they mean. It's pretty evident that the people who make those claims on social media don't actually understand anything about HIPAA in the first place, hence why they manage to misspell HIPAA and just generally misuse its meaning. Those who do understand HIPAA, would never make such a mistake as saying HIPAA certified
My health clinic giving my medical information to my mother despite the fact they aren't allowed to share my medical information without getting my permission when she isn't even listed as an emergency contact (and I'm an adult) is more of a violation then someone asking if I have my vaccines.
jeesh, Typhoid Mary would be an alt-right hero today.
Idk she was an immigrant...
@@LostButBroken Yes, but they LOVE using immigrants as props for their BS.
True but she was the right colored immigrant. Irish.
No, they would hate the story "forced female protagonist", "total Mary Sue" and "forced diversity".
@@LostButBroken So is Trump's wife, but she is a hero to many of them.
"That's a moral question, not a legal one."
I hope you get quoted for this in an important book someday, just saying.
There's right, wrong, and the law. Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it's a violation of the law and vice versa (something ethically good can be a violation of the law).
It's something people really don't like to hear when they're stuck in black and white thinking.
@@clueless_cutie any one in animal rescue is so aware of this. Many things that most people would consider morally wrong in regards to pets are technically legal.
In school you learn about morally wrong vs legally wrong.
Here in germany it's very likely that they will legalize recreational weed (4 years testing phase, but whatever) and this doesn't change the morality of consuming cannabis. No matter what your opinion on drug-use is.
If someone actually bases their moral opinions on the law, it's very strange imo.
HIPAA was always something I loved because it stopped my over protective mom from using my health info against me. Before it she could call and just ask for the info and use it against me but now I actually have privacy.
How on earth would your mom use your own medical records against you?
How does one weaponize medical records?
@@GeneralNickles
Just a spitball...
"You've been getting the birth control, so youve been having the sex, I'm locking you in the dungeon, and calling for the exorcism. "
@@GeneralNickles Jason gave a great example. There are so many other ways too and I'm truly glad you can't even imagine how they can be weaponized against you. No one should have to go through that.
@@wrothwraith so you call the cops and have your crazy ass mom arrested for child abuse. It's that simple.
@@bobsaget3841 no. They didn't give a great example. They gave a great example of "how to have your parents arrested." Not how medical records can be weaponized.
And I'm still not seeing how that could ever work. Like MAYBE if you have an STD and they threaten to plaster it all over the internet? But again, that's grounds for having them arrested for emotional abuse. Child protection laws exist for a reason.
Even if It's legal for them to invade your privacy, it's not legal for them to abuse you with it.
Imma tell my employer to use this video for our HIPAA training from now on (along with, probably, a small mountain of supplementary training). I work in information systems with medical systems (occasionally) so we get training every year. Watching this video….it’s craaaazy how wrong folks can get it. I never felt it was terribly complex?
Find it weird that so many republican lawmakers don't know what the law even is. How are they allowed to push blatantly illegal laws that they know will be overturned in courts? There should be a massive punishment for crap like that.
They also had a president that had no idea what the president's role or responsibilities were, so there's that.
Republicans don't really know or even care what the law actually is. They are just actors performing theatre.
I personally think they should have to pass a test to run for office.
@@travis1240 : PeeOTUS was never interested to learn what his role and responsibilities were, though he was quick to fill positions that benefited himself, his family, and his loyalists even though they weren't qualified to fill those positions.
They have to say something so they say something. It is like Trump's response to releasing his tax records that they are under audit. One thing has nothing to do with the other. And so many people are doing it that we can't even shame them for their stupidity or lack of morality of blatantly spreading false information.
"Here's Marjorie Taylor Green getting it completely wrong"
Evergreen
How is she allowed to be anywhere near where people actually make laws?
@@markkoehr5003 Lack of adult supervision?
@@Najolve Perhaps Georgia's 14th allows actual 14 year olds to vote
But note, if you ever want to make fun of anyone for misspelling HIPAA, you should probably spell her name as Greene.
@@ps.2 Well I didn't make fun of her for misspelling it, I made fun of her for being a sitting Congresswoman with no knowledge of the law. The spelling of her last name is irrelevant as I never plan on referring to her again.
The people complaining about their HIPAA rights being violated remind me of those who claim that they are 'sovereign citizens'. Neither group seems to have a clue what they are talking about.
What amuses me about the "sovereign citizens" is that they fail to understand when you visit a foreign country you are not exempted from obeying their laws. So Everytime those idiots leave their little bubble they are traveling on foreign soil and therefore still subject to the laws established by the state.
Ugh, I hate sovereign citizens.
Most of these sovereign citizens are probably anti-vaxxers anyway.
What do you expect, they're Republicans. Verrry poorly educated, because they assume they know everything and are unteachable.
@@Axolotl_Mischief nice projection.
As a healthcare and compliance attorney, I cannot truly express how triggering the intro of this video is. The grossly widespread misunderstanding of HIPAA is giving me ulcers. You explained it perfectly. I am 100% forwarding this video to everyone who feels compelled to ask me whether they can sue “for a violation of their HIPAA rights.” Also, have you ever considered creating employee/employer trainings on this? I’ve reviewed so many HIPAA trainings for clients, and more often than not they’re terrible. This video broke this concept down so succinctly, it would be a great basis for a training!
Most importantly, the NFL requires teams to disclose injuries for the GAMBLERS!!!
Yeah, they brought that up in The Last Boy Scout, a Bruce Willis movie.
I have been working in healthcare since 1993, well before the HIPAA act passed. We have trainings on itat every year. Seeing the MTGs of the world misquote and misunderstand it irks the hell out of me. Thank you for providing some much needed context and commentary on it and pointing out that the HIPAA act does NOT PREVENT private businesses and employers from requiring to see if you have been vaccinated.
As another healthcare worker, i feel your pain.
Okay, so, is it *more* or *less* annoying than seeing people defibrillate a flatlining patient on TV
@Cort C Still your own business, and you employer's, and your school's, business.
Yup they know it’s not the same as any other vaccine, it's better.
@Cort C It's none of an airline's business if the pilot is vaccinated or not, if he/she smoked marijuana before arriving for work, took prescription drugs that impair motor and cog native functions.
I love when people rant on HIPAA and write "HIPPA" really exposes their cluelessness
It’s hysterical this had to be explained, still an interesting watch. It is too bad that many will choose to disbelieve any facts or interpretations, since it may go against their personal beliefs. Keep up the good videos please.
I don't think it's their personal beliefs as much as it is their personal desires.. ;)
If my child was at a private school who banned vaccinated teachers, I would be finding another school because clearly my child isnt getting a proper education.
That school is suitable for Karen and Republicans
To be fair, they might be getting a proper education. Just not necessarily a fair one.
Work in a hospital... student nurse... trained EMT...
Seeing these people get HIPAA so unbelievably wrong is infuriating...
It's like watching someone try to get into a bar and when the bartender asks for an ID they claim they don't need to show it because it would violate their 5th amendment rights... That's literally not how anything works!
That is a very good analogy. I'm going to keep it. Thank you.
Yes! I've *been* saying this! Where's the same outrage for bars asking you to "show your papers"??? 😂☠️
4th amendment*
@@SonOfTheDawn515 that doesn't apply here either. People can ask you whatever they want and a company can demand certain information.
The 4th Amendment applies to unlawful search and seizure by the government and doesn't apply to vaccine requirements.
@@Stethacanthus As an individual with rights I say it's no one's business. I'm not taking a pro or anti vaccine stance. Right to privacy. You may ask whatever you want but I'm under no obligation to provide said information.
Two things: Im really eager to see you tackle the Kyle rittenhouse trial
and if you do another episode of "Laws Broken" can you tackle Hunter S Thompson scapades on Fear and Loathing in las vegas?
Since he is innocent. He is perfectly legal to defend himself and others from a raging leftist mob.
Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.
Self defense is when you take a loaded gun to a rally with full intent to shoot people and then shoot those people 🥴
Kyle was looking for a fight. He found a fight. Now he's crying that his actions might have consequences.
@@Snuzzled you are discounting the fact that Kyle was being attacked when he shot those people. Pretty smooth brain you have there
@@alexispalangeo8643 Nah, you're discounting that he went there with the express intent to start shit. How's that saying go? "Don't start none, won't be none"?
You know when you were a kid and your sibling waves their hand a millimeter from your nose and says "I'm not touching you" so you slap their hand away? Is them punching you self defense?
THANK YOU!!! I work in the mental health field. Very very very few people actually understand HIPAA. People throw it around all the time. Incorrectly. This is a must watch! Great video! 👍🏼
"Celebrities might not be the best source of information to determine what HIPAA does and does not do." *shocked Pikachu face*
*insert funny joke about how Legal Eagle is a minor celebrity*
@@arifhossain9751 He is a lawyer first though.
@@joshuakevinserdan9331
Yeah but so is Rudy Juliani....
In all seriousness, I know Legal Eagle is trustworthy. The Debate nerd in me just cant stop looking for funny little loopholes in statements.
If he did put the Pikachu face, it will be quite hilarious 🤣🤣
It's easy to make everything a conspiracy when you don't know how anything works.
How "Anything" works you mean
@@todd-617 Don't forget to give it extra quote marks, for """authenticity""".
@@todd-617 yeah
@UCFJ-DgRecCUtByRlxNSkX0A
What do you think about 9/11?
The way I see it:
If you believe in enough conspiracy theories you are bound to get one right.
That makes you a genius in my book :)
One of those Legal Eagle episode where you can't stop screaming "THANK YOU!" at the screen.
The ravings of an absolute lunatic ☝
@@elgatofelix8917 you should have pointed to yourself.
14:18 "HIPAA doesn't apply when YOU are talking about YOUR OWN health". Perfection.