Unlike Anything Else! Trust Shout Linkage Fork Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- How does this wild, long-travel alternative to traditional front suspension stack up on the trails? It's time to find out. With the promise of both turning heads and delivering a better ride experience, the latest trailing multi-link front suspension platform from Trust Performance is designed for aggressive trail and enduro mountain bikes. Join Zach Petersen, a rider known for his speed on a bike and the @TrailPeek RUclips channel, for a straight-shooter's perspective on the unique design. Listen in as he discusses and demonstrates the fork's major strengths, weaknesses, and gives you a bottom line.
Trust Shout Highlights:
Trailing multi-link front suspension
Full carbon chassis, steerer tube and linkages with aluminum pivots
178mm contour travel
Wheel Size: Fits 29” / 27.5+ / and 27.5” wheel sizes
29”x 2.6” (762 x 66) max or 27.5” x 2.8” (744 x 78) max
Direct-mount 180mm rotor (with adapter: 203mm)
Trust engineered twin-tube, thru-shaft damper
External rebound adjustment; 3-way compression adjust (Open, Mid, Firm) with adjustable low-speed compression on mid-mode and open-mode settings.
15x110mm BOOST thru-axle or “Torque Caps”
580mm axle-to-crown
Tapered steerer tube
Weight: 2,170g (axle-in)
Price: $1,975 USD
"By employing a linkage system, Trust Performance suspension reap the benefits of a leverage ratio - something typically only found in rear suspension bikes."
The Shout includes a two-year warranty, lifetime bearing replacement, no-fault crash replacement program, and has a 250-hour service interval. For additional technical information, be sure to consult this launch feature: www.vitalmtb.c...
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That Trail Peek guy sure is a pinner! What do you think of the Shout? Would you ride a linkage fork?
For more ripping rides with Zach, visit ruclips.net/channel/UCBPN_pDX1jrT5BkuwjbaaIQ
not for me anymore, I used to be glued to the ground but now I love flying so nopeedope. Slackening your HTA does more or less the same thing and it is waayy cheaper. When I get old and cant jump anymore i might buy one
I think zach is a good match for vital and always like watching him ride because he rips!
Absolutely not! I don't care how good they perform, ugliest looking thing ever and any bike I've ever seen em' on I feel sorry for. Like a dog dressed in people's clothes
Vital MTB Thank you for supporting Trail Peek! They shred.
I'd like to try it for myself Zack is on another level of shred ridding it on my bike and my local trails is the only way to know for sure
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We need more reviews like this. Clear and concise. Not talking at a fast (salesman's) pace. Approaching this new fork with open arms yet a bit of skepticism and giving us viewers the info we need to know. Well done.
Dang Zack can seriously shred!!! Also interesting unbiased feedback on the fork. Thx.
Someone please put this fork on a polygon square one frame to make the strangest looking bike ever but in a cool way. I would totally ride this fork
Was thinking the same! Imagine that beast!!!
I was also thinking about that set-up. Guess would have to name her "Fugly"
@@dfliedner I would call it either "Karen" or "The Ex-wife" lmao
what about the marin wolf ridge, imho it looks even more strange
Huh, looks like a Marin Wolf Ridge or Marin Mount Vision
Great honest review. Kudos to trust for thinking outside the box and developing such a unique product.
It is not so unique as you think, this tech is known for more then half a century. There is at least one other Manufacturer for this kind of MTB fork.
@@Vanadium True, but those forks were trying to damp vertical movement instead of horizontal movement like this fork is doing. Which is why there is so much stiction in the fork right at the beginning.
Awesome review, way more insights than others as you explain how the fork reacts to different terrain... obviously helps that Trail Peek shreds!
Honest review. Thank you!
bloody, a product review at that speed and not hitting a tree....respect....
First of all: Dude! You were ripping fast and talking almost normal. Hats off to you. Second: I’m a Fox 36 guy and a trust fork always looks like a square tire. For the price tag, I’m just not going to experiment. My 36 is amazing, I’m not going to pay double for extremely limited benefits . Great review and sick riding
Enjoyed the clear (speech and content) and honest review
thank you for a honest and clear review, love you vital and love trail peek, hope u guys work together again
Yeeeeaaass Trail Peek!
What trail is that? Looks awesome!
This is a great, objective review of some very interesting fork technologies. Would love to try one out!
Thanks for the review! What trail is that?
Great review. Nice to see how someone with excellent bike skills things of this fork.
The more I see reviews the more it seems they need to slim it right down and bang it on XC bikes. It's a perfect application for an XC race bike with the way it behaves.
They would never get it light enough.
I don’t give a fork if it weights 4lb. For $500 and without carbon fubar, I’m in.
Great video! What is the trail please?
The trust is harsh when landing, because of its rearward axle path, its great over rocks and obstacles that slow you down, but not that amazing when landing drops where you have practically 0 horizontal forces and 100% vertical forces.
How does a rearward axle path make landing drops harsher?
@@dontfeelcold The lever changes. For making landings smooth, you need vertical suspension travel, but to get the same ammount vertical travel out of a not vertical axle path you need to move the axle a longer distance, which requires more force.
@@dontfeelcold To put it another way, any misalignment between axle path and impact force represents force that isn't being handled by the suspension. The axle path of the Shout is very rearward and the force of a "slap-down" landing is nearly vertical. Huge misalignment, so very poor handling of the impact.
Exactly, so better for some things and not as good for others, totally makes sense and parallels my experience on the Shout. So I wouldn't say the Shout is for the bike park rider, more fitting for trail riders.
What happens when those linkages max out? Meaning its version of bottom out, snap?
So it harsh off the top, or does it have great small bump compliance? Because those aren’t the same thing
You're right, they aren't the same thing. The fork does well with small bumps, but it has a harsh off-the-top feeling when landing rear wheel first.
That Berm Peak sticker on the bike is so cool
that's the most beautiful trail I've ever seen dude, insane! wheres that?
Shame they went out of business, was really hoping they would do more.
I hope they come back someday, or linkage forks become more popular.
There’s enough pivot bearings/ bushings to replace on a frame, I dont want to do it on a fork also.
Can I get it with 1 1/8” straight steerer?
How do you service that?
Dave Weagle knows what he is doing
Holy shit good review, but where is that trail? I want to move there
It's great that there are parts of the bile industry that don't accept incremental advance as good enough. But I just get past how funky these look. Taste is a personal thing though...
Will someone please put this fork against the clock! Seems an obvious way to see if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
Best analysis I've seen yet on this fork. I'm demoing one now.
Great review Zach.. It would be less awkward to have you speak more naturally instead of reading a script though as well as figuring out a better mic setup. :)
Your points seem to be in agreement with most of the pro reviews, the design isn't there yet especially for double the price of a telescopic fork. Unfortunately Trusts' response to the criticism (at least on PB's review) is pretty disappointing.
Your slo-mo landing clip did a good job of showing that harshness issue.
Thanks for this vidéo and explications
Did he say how much that beast weighs? It looks like a cinder block
Weight is like 50g more
What does this trust shock cost?
$1,975 USD
This fork will work very good for horizontal impact; not so good for vertical which is due to the steep angle of the bottom link. Buts basicall what Zach said.
Noticed that Berm Peak sticker
Trail Peek ❤️
Has any one had a head tube snap on the bikes after adding this fork?
Wouldn't you just add more progression for bigger hits?
Would like to see a slow mo of a Hop 180 a bike with that thing on a bike
Their ugly,expensive to buy and replace! Imo
the rock thing is what I was afraid would happen. I am not surprised it did.
People hating on/disliking this technology = luddites. The fork can handle more significant forces acting against the wheel.
If it ain’t broken don’t fix it!
My friend has the same handle bars as you
I think it's a cool idea hopefully it leads to more innovation but I wouldn't trust it unless it was on the market for several years and tested by downhill guys. No way in hell I'm riding something that I'm scared might break on a landing!
Was intrigued by it (although would be hard to justify price) but after watching that landing- no way. Most of my riding I spend popping off of everything I can find and that looked painful and dangerous af.
I want a non carbon fubar version.
unfortunately, the Thurst Forks don't go well with actual bike designs and unless the advantages are really big I don't see a lot of people going for something that just doesn´t look cool, I included, it is that simple I think!
In next episodes Trail Peek brothers and Alex Chamberlain will show you how hard you have to shred to wear out and break every possible bike part no matter how expensive it is.
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"Good drop good drop"
Very good review but god it's an ugly looking fork with all those drawbacks I will stick to my 36grip2
The way that fork flexes, no thank you.
The slacker the frame the harder its for a telescopic fork to work properly..this technology is the future i guess
Preferred to the old method
I've never tried one but even if they are better than telescopic forks I still wouldn't want one just because they look so ugly
Even if they were better at everything I still wouldn’t get them. Sooo darn ugly.
Exactly
Talk about close minded... makes the bikes look way more futuristic and high end
@@rampagerentalrepair I guess everyone has a different opinion.
I thought so, too, but it’s purpose built and it’s amazing
I can't get by the looks. If it doesn't look good my confidence is gone. And the price....
Seems like every single review of Trust fork is same as stated by Zach from Trailpeek here. Definietely not my cup of tea in so many ways.
Look, i like the unconventional looks of it, but feel that it is grossly overpriced. For the drawbacks, i think that it is ANOTHER option, but not THE option. Maybe cool on a giant reign 29?
Don’t care how well it works... it’s hideous
Really looks hideous to me. Would never get one cause I love the double crown fork look too much and it just works well and is proven over the years. But the kinematics are interesting.
They'll take care of someone? How about their freaking ER medical bills too? Ahh hahahahah
Whats the point? Its ugly and way too expensive. 😂
Unreal traction control at blinding speed
Just like your profile pic :D
Ahh, did I hurt someones feelings?
Too expensive @ $1975. I could buy a whole bike for that...Specialized Fuse Comp is actually cheaper.
Trust bankrupted, right?
Its a good fork but the traditional fork is still better
It’s an XC-fork, can’t handle jumps.
Also, at that pricepoint - only XC-Dentist-SUV-dad’s that have too much disposable income and a strong belief that they need the ”best” gear when they pedal once a week on a flat gravel road on their ”carbon beasts” are going to be the only ones buying it.
Ahemmmm. Grim donut please
Telescopic*
thats the problem 60% of people who wants to mtb have minimum wage! why make stuff most cant afford
No thanks 😂
Too expensive. Needs coilovers instead of air shocks.
Ugly ? its subjectiv ,for some horrendus for others rad and beautyful Expensive ?YES Twice,three and four times the price of a fork with same purpose BUT with that open angle at the top crown WHEN something will brake ,how long will he takes ?THe Frame for sure will crak or /and the fork crown.Wanna bet ?
$2k is definately not like anything else
Take my $$$$
Not having issue wit rebound it’s necessary to keep air pressure at the least minimum recommend
Not to mention the ridiculous retail price.
If motox aint use it, then you dont use it to on mountainbike
They need to make a 140 to 150mm version.
anodized steel? wut.
As if the bike is wearing a combat boots...not to my liking aesthetically...
@@Cheddar702 hmmmm.... cheesy you.
Idk how much bs this fork has it still very gai ugly
I just think it looks weird.
Where I live we have 50 different words for mud and I’m not sure these forks would survive.
It's an unattractive design. I also am not sure I want more pivot points I have to maintain, there are already enough of the frame. Current forks have gotten so good I rarely have to maintain them. I always like new ideas, but this one has a long ways to go before I would consider it or trust it.
My ears have been raped by the audio in that garage/shed/whatever and I have notified the authorities....
I don’t care if it works well, I would never buy one because it’s ugly as fuckkkkkk. I’ll keep my fox forks thanks.
Dudes hauling ass and talking about the fork... Not anyone can multitask like that. I know I can't lol
Great job! Just to add another drawback... it is ugly AF! Sorry...
Sorry these forks are never going to catch on they look hideous and they doe look plush
Unlike anything else? So is lady GoGa but you wont see enjoying her compliant ride or preferring I spend money on her music over favorite band Tool. So, while accurate the title has no useful meaning.
Dude try to speak a little bit faster and reduce the pause
It is only a hundred and twenty travel I don't think I'd try taking it off of large jumps .... If I'm not mistaking it was designed for cross country and down country ... With a bit of down hill engineering so it's able to suck up the bumps from Roots and rocks and holes
178mm
There is a shorter version from trust on the market, the messenger with 130mm of travel and this one is also not aimed at XC, trail bike usage. This one was the Enduro version the Shout.
Where the heck did you get this information? It's 178mm of travel most definitely not aimed for XC.
the trust MESSAGE is the shorter travel version of this fork - ruclips.net/video/qw_lpUnqytY/видео.html
Wrong fork, the one he was demoing is the168mm travel Shout fork, the shorter travel fork is the Message.
Looks scary with that bend.