The Wildest Bike Part I've Ever Tried. The Trust Shout Linkage Fork!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @BCpov
    @BCpov  4 года назад +49

    How'd Yuka's first ride on an E-bike go? Check out her vid here!
    ruclips.net/video/ceoZBNc2lbA/видео.html

    • @imanmoshari
      @imanmoshari 4 года назад +1

      BCpov when you make it to California I really recommend riding the famous flow trail.

  • @Marpurrsa
    @Marpurrsa 4 года назад +90

    9:10
    as a fellow introvert that small awkward chuckle hit me on another level

    • @warchief7734
      @warchief7734 4 года назад

      @Tasunke the only no pfp user I trust

  • @AHDudeGuy
    @AHDudeGuy 4 года назад +124

    Optimus fork *LOL* yeah.. I bet he had no idea that was going on the internet.

  • @TheProjectX3
    @TheProjectX3 4 года назад +75

    Ah yes, that feeling when you are testing new stuff and mid ride you want your old bike back XD

  • @remymetailler
    @remymetailler 4 года назад +47

    Mountain Biking often uses technology developed in the Moto industry which a much much bigger industry. If it does not work on a Motocross race bike or has not been introduce yet there, most likely it will not work well on a regular bike. Would be curious to try one though..

    • @_the_low_gold_gamer_2501
      @_the_low_gold_gamer_2501 4 года назад

      Rémy Métailler why no flipped forks on MTB

    • @golfwang88
      @golfwang88 4 года назад +1

      @@_the_low_gold_gamer_2501 there are inverted mtb forks. Rock shox rs-1 is a common one. There are several others though

    • @panhuys1893
      @panhuys1893 4 года назад +2

      Yeah dropper seat posts were a real hit amongst MX hence it became a hit in mtb....

    • @TJPDmember
      @TJPDmember 3 года назад

      @@panhuys1893 Do you really think seat post and suspension are the same subject matter?

    • @Danstheman1357
      @Danstheman1357 3 года назад

      @@panhuys1893 yeah totally the same...

  • @tayallen9432
    @tayallen9432 3 года назад +16

    0:45 I hate it when my pile of fox 36 forks get in the way

  • @christianposey193
    @christianposey193 4 года назад +3

    I ride these trails every day, and it is SO mich fun.

  • @79981086
    @79981086 4 года назад +8

    From my point of view is better to wait for the second or third generation of this type of fork so it can be refined from those imperfection a new product always have and also specking a reduction in price.

  • @joshbenson8039
    @joshbenson8039 4 года назад +3

    Interesting fact about South Mountain... most of those trails were forged by the Cat company because South Mountain used to be a testing grounds for their earth movers and other heavy equipment

  • @bradmurphy8416
    @bradmurphy8416 4 года назад

    Tough call on that fork, not sure I’ll ever want to change from what you’ve all been riding for 20 something years! Glad to see you you had the nerve to test it out!!! Solid work my friend, cheers Eric!!

  • @LaMereACaniche
    @LaMereACaniche 4 года назад +3

    Was thinking about going to Europe this week but man, you make me wanna spend my vacation time mountain biking in the USA. (from Canada)

  • @iseabeck9488
    @iseabeck9488 4 года назад +6

    You know you live in Phoenix when you can identify the Waterfall on SoMo just by looking up at it (in your intro shot).

  • @aaronenduro3168
    @aaronenduro3168 4 года назад +3

    3:48 having a suspension fork in the trail.. What a level hahahaha

  • @Getoutside2day
    @Getoutside2day 4 года назад +1

    Optimus fork!! lol .... that was funny. Great review and thanks for sharing your feedback on the Trust Shout fork. Cheers!!

  • @cammoandy6498
    @cammoandy6498 4 года назад +2

    Good to finally hear about the cons of this fork...not just the pros.

  • @elpina587
    @elpina587 4 года назад +4

    Bravo on da honesty

  • @grantfeddema5332
    @grantfeddema5332 4 года назад +24

    The old “lefty” rearing it’s head!! I ride a Cannondale (Jekyll 3) and am totally impressed with their product!

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 4 года назад +1

      What kind of travel do you get on that f/r?
      I just got a new to me 06 scalpel and im loving it!

    • @grantfeddema5332
      @grantfeddema5332 4 года назад +1

      Raj Gill 170mm - front and 165mm - rear

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 4 года назад +1

      @@grantfeddema5332 damn thats full on downhill bike! Mines only 110mm front 67mm rear

    • @grantfeddema5332
      @grantfeddema5332 4 года назад +1

      Raj Gill she’s a beast for sure! Great climber though!

  • @custommotor
    @custommotor 4 года назад

    The linkage fork does make sense. On a normal fork the shock is having to deal with the up and down motion, but also with the twisting forces placed on the fork. The linkage for separates those. The shocks only have to control the up and down motion. It would probably just need a little fine tuning. Also, you would have to look at the geometry before hand and match it to what comes off.

  • @michaellilly4303
    @michaellilly4303 3 года назад

    Looks like a crosslink fork introduced by Noleen/Girvin in the late 1990s. They worked well, came in aluminum and carbon fiber versions, and some of them were paired with K2 computerized smart shocks.

  • @junkandcrapamen
    @junkandcrapamen 4 года назад +4

    Linkage forks are the future. Not having the geometry change under load is huge. I would love to try one of these.

    • @secret5.
      @secret5. 4 года назад

      Jeff No way that's going to happen. It'll always remain a gimmicky product with a cult following.

  • @Candesce
    @Candesce 4 года назад +1

    Haha, I love when people want to talk about my kit, it's part of what I love about riding a Pole Evolink :D
    If I weren't already so happy with my fork I would have thought about giving this a go, but seems like it has a lot of disadvantages over a regular fork and not too much else.
    Maybe with the higher ride height, you could drop your stack height a little too.

  • @Guineson
    @Guineson 4 года назад +1

    I've essentially gathered that the Trust forks are better for plowing head on into stuff so more horizontal hits not vertical hits that you would get from going down steps or off drops and jumps. Never ridden one so no personal experience with it.

  • @austinthompson1161
    @austinthompson1161 4 года назад +1

    I just got into the bike scene so correct me if I'm wrong but if the fork felt stiff at low speeds, can't you just lower the psi so it's not as stiff?

  • @primer-2426
    @primer-2426 4 года назад +3

    They had the perfect chance to name that fork "THE MANTIS"

  • @depe8658
    @depe8658 4 года назад +3

    "... to fork over the cash... for a fork..." hehe
    Nice

  • @taffycymroukmtb9073
    @taffycymroukmtb9073 4 года назад +1

    😜🚴🚴 great Stuff Eric Some nice trails 😜👌

  • @colinisnowlostincolorado
    @colinisnowlostincolorado 3 года назад

    Have you tried the Lauf fork as well? I have one on my CX/gravel bike and I have found that it works really well at cornering and fast speeds dampening all the little bumps down the road. They do make a mountain bike and fat bike specific fork as well.

  • @stopglobalswarming
    @stopglobalswarming 4 года назад

    Like it. I think it would be fugly in a classic bike but I want it for the design. I like hardtails with tightly controlled forks.
    Can you buy one with a 1 1/8 steerer ?

  • @danielbroadstock4583
    @danielbroadstock4583 4 года назад +6

    Yea my favorite trails. Somo!!!

  • @freerangemtb
    @freerangemtb 4 года назад +7

    I have to admit, I've never really been a fan of linkage fork design. It looks bulky and heavy. I think I'll just stick with the traditional fork designs.
    And as always, it's wonderful to see stuff in my home state.
    Stay upright and keep the rubber side down!
    -Brian

    • @edinjelacic2132
      @edinjelacic2132 4 года назад

      To be fair, at these price points, I think a say in the matter is all that most of us can get regarding these forks. Would like to try one tho!

  • @jacksonthornton4073
    @jacksonthornton4073 4 года назад +10

    This would look sick on the Druid

  • @mtbboy1993
    @mtbboy1993 4 года назад +1

    7:41 that guitar riff reminds me of John Lee Hooker - Boom Boom.🙂

  • @ejhayes76
    @ejhayes76 4 года назад

    Used to ride South Mountain in 2000-2002. I can't believe how crowded it is now days (when is see the area on videos like yours).

  • @sophiefoerst4091
    @sophiefoerst4091 4 года назад +8

    Hey Eric!
    I live in a small town in California with some epic off grid hand cut trails. We’re just south of Montaño de oro and would love to let you in on our secret trails! Thanks love the videos.

    • @BGraves
      @BGraves 4 года назад

      Gatekeeper

  • @Billium632
    @Billium632 4 года назад +6

    Wish I'd known you were in my back yard, dude! And dang, that fork *looks* heavy.

    • @aleksandrwilford322
      @aleksandrwilford322 4 года назад

      Will Patterson they are full carbon

    • @barryokatbikes
      @barryokatbikes 4 года назад

      Will Patterson it’s fairly comparable to anything else in the same travel category. Just 30-40 grams heavier.

  • @marcalmazan5825
    @marcalmazan5825 4 года назад

    Nice mtb so beautiful trail so awesome 😍😍

  • @jasonmcevers2862
    @jasonmcevers2862 4 года назад +2

    I wish I had a mountain bike so I could go biking with my dad but I don’t have enough to get one that would do the job.

  • @runecneht3410
    @runecneht3410 4 года назад

    loved the pun at 9:40

  • @siglinde_raw199
    @siglinde_raw199 4 года назад +7

    At 2:26 the break rotor is mounted the other way around.

  • @karl07777
    @karl07777 3 года назад

    rearward axle path going crazy right now. wonder what would have happened if Trust was still around

  • @nicholastoo858
    @nicholastoo858 4 года назад

    Try out fox’s electronically controlled suspension. It stiffens and compresses dynamically relative to the trail.

  • @mattyhamilton5349
    @mattyhamilton5349 4 года назад +1

    Your a amazing RUclipsr and inspire me and I would love you to create more often but I do know how difficult it is

  • @graysonrides6746
    @graysonrides6746 4 года назад +13

    I love my trust. I'll never go back

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 4 года назад

      Have you tried them with lower psi in them? Does it soften up?
      Ive never uaed them but everyone seems to mention how stiff it is

    • @graysonrides6746
      @graysonrides6746 4 года назад

      @@rajgill7576 I run about 100 psi and 2 tokens. I would recommend messing around with the psi and tuning it to your preference.

    • @rajgill7576
      @rajgill7576 4 года назад

      @@graysonrides6746 thats on the lower end isnt it, i run like 150psi

    • @graysonrides6746
      @graysonrides6746 4 года назад

      @@rajgill7576 yes, i am around 90 ish pounds.

  • @tatemorse2558
    @tatemorse2558 4 года назад

    Y'all should come out to Laguna Beach/Aliso Woods in California! Trails are steep and loose and pretty fun!

  • @flarix17
    @flarix17 4 года назад +1

    oh yes the ol lefty my friend rides with one I always have to do a double take when I see it

  • @AbraxasMusic
    @AbraxasMusic 4 года назад

    finally someone made a good video about this trust fork...

  • @FoCoFlowShow
    @FoCoFlowShow 4 года назад +7

    Saw that fork on JKW videos on the Ripmo - it’s so strange looking - hard for me to get over the aesthetics

  • @Mile-long-list
    @Mile-long-list 4 года назад

    They need a 200mm+ travel fork then I'll get interested. This is better than telescope for sure !! Just not there yet

  • @beerenmusli8220
    @beerenmusli8220 3 года назад

    *gasps* That Fork costs more than my used E-Allmountain Haibike? YEEET. Its nice to see engineers try out new stuff, so we can learn how to improve the standard fork :3

  • @edwin7150
    @edwin7150 3 года назад

    i feel like these trails and rocky terrain are perfect for 29ers for that rollover\

  • @evanwells6284
    @evanwells6284 4 года назад +2

    Bike theft is terribly common in central Maricopa *coughASUcough*, so owning one of these would make me really nervous.

    • @CalgaryDynastar
      @CalgaryDynastar 4 года назад

      Why? Nobody would ever steal it because it’s so god damn ugly.

  • @jeliastam
    @jeliastam 4 года назад

    Did I spy an eminent onset and maybe a haste too? Were those being demoed? You ever ridden one?

  • @4ctv496
    @4ctv496 3 года назад

    Nice video bro so amazing 👏

  • @TheLoneRanger745
    @TheLoneRanger745 4 года назад

    You guy's should try trail 101 at dreamy draw park in North Phoenix ,

  • @danaelgonzalez8776
    @danaelgonzalez8776 4 года назад

    That fork is more heavy?

  • @johndavis3938
    @johndavis3938 4 года назад +2

    "Fork over the cash" LOL

  • @katesiedle8018
    @katesiedle8018 4 года назад

    I LOVE Ride-in my BIKE!!!!!

  • @herbasaurus5076
    @herbasaurus5076 4 года назад

    Is this near bullhead golden valley and Kingman?

  • @nvr2old700
    @nvr2old700 4 года назад

    Nice review Eric. Balanced opinion. PRICE is exorbitant though and until price point comes down will remain an elitist fork option for most IMO. Ken

  • @realKHz
    @realKHz 4 года назад +2

    Cutting edge? The Honda Cub has been running linkage forks for 60 years

  • @lucasgordon8056
    @lucasgordon8056 4 года назад

    Let's just take a moment to notice the Eminent Cycles Onset LT that that guy was riding. it gets longer as the rear suspension compresses.

  • @Bicycle_tv
    @Bicycle_tv 4 года назад +1

    Crazy fork) 👍

  • @happysocks8353
    @happysocks8353 4 года назад

    What is wrong with the normal forks?

  • @tainehickey7761
    @tainehickey7761 3 года назад

    man i wanna try that mtb park so baaaaaad

  • @jamielynch2090
    @jamielynch2090 4 года назад

    went biking in az its so scary thinking about running into cactusus

  • @MarshallsLife
    @MarshallsLife 3 года назад

    That looks realllllly heavy

  • @jroox_228
    @jroox_228 4 года назад

    How do jumps feel with it?

  • @jaredreynolds5250
    @jaredreynolds5250 4 года назад

    Cool vid. Thanks

  • @luckyofficial2301
    @luckyofficial2301 4 года назад

    The only default I found is the price and it's tough to climb with!👍🏻

  • @RickyScoles
    @RickyScoles 4 года назад

    So sick 🤘 🤘

  • @eastonj6844
    @eastonj6844 4 года назад +1

    You’ve done or you haven’t. Like everything in the world

  • @jdavis417
    @jdavis417 4 года назад

    Those forks seem to take riders significant time to dial-in? From what I've seen about them, you simply plow into sharp edges the way you kinda' don't with telescoping forks. Rich Drew is consistently using Trust in his videos and he seems to do absolutely everything with it! The way you took the Waterfall... you were awfully confident... was that the fork?

    • @stopglobalswarming
      @stopglobalswarming 4 года назад

      I saw the company video demo telling riders to aim it at a curb and run square i nto it, adjust accordingly and then go trail ride.

  • @elijahf111
    @elijahf111 4 года назад

    you gonna hit santa cruz on the way up cali?

  • @TeddyParker
    @TeddyParker 4 года назад

    Stay gnarly, my friends...

  • @paterson4171
    @paterson4171 4 года назад +1

    wow FORK over the cash

  • @xxnotmuchxx
    @xxnotmuchxx 4 года назад

    Why not combine both forks in one bike?

  • @jenniferkell4711
    @jenniferkell4711 4 года назад +1

    Come to prescott Arizona please

    • @jenniferkell4711
      @jenniferkell4711 4 года назад +1

      I'm a unicyclist and would love to ride with you in the granite dells

  • @resaleninja1917
    @resaleninja1917 4 года назад

    The nose is my favorite way down the waterfall.

  • @tomlloyd-hughes9689
    @tomlloyd-hughes9689 4 года назад +1

    I think the forks are meant for xc

  • @gabcuyan1658
    @gabcuyan1658 4 года назад +1

    Gotta admit the traditional fork looks cooler and performs better

  • @maddhatter2461
    @maddhatter2461 4 года назад +2

    How can you afford to travel all across the United States? Do u have a regular job or

    • @baseball3401
      @baseball3401 4 года назад

      How could they have a normal job if they are in a different country

    • @maddhatter2461
      @maddhatter2461 4 года назад

      Base Ball I hope you mean state

    • @NotStockPhoto
      @NotStockPhoto 4 года назад

      No he’s saying since they are from Canada they can’t have a regular US job

    • @maddhatter2461
      @maddhatter2461 4 года назад

      NotStockPhoto oh I didn’t know they’re from Canada

  • @nigelsmith7366
    @nigelsmith7366 4 года назад

    Has everyone forgotten about the Girvin Vector linkage fork

  • @666ImI666
    @666ImI666 4 года назад

    Wait that fork uses a built in telescoping shock.. so if friction was one of the problems with conventional forks adding linkages plus that shock seems very counter productive. Simplicity is satisfaction and this just seems like hype. Good video tho.

    • @barryokatbikes
      @barryokatbikes 4 года назад

      666ImI666 it’s all about leverage ratio. With the linkage there’s more leverage to actuate the suspension. There’s basically zero breakaway force required.

  • @b3n_ketchup586
    @b3n_ketchup586 4 года назад +1

    Let me know when you going trought central oregon

  • @prestonbrown7156
    @prestonbrown7156 4 года назад

    You should ride Finns MTB park in Estrella

  • @ethanal9483
    @ethanal9483 4 года назад

    im thinking about how heavy that thing loooks

  • @stopglobalswarming
    @stopglobalswarming 4 года назад +1

    I want the linkage fork.

  • @SUPERCOOLZZ
    @SUPERCOOLZZ 4 года назад

    Telescoping is the action. Telescopic is the type of fork.

  • @md5sjt41
    @md5sjt41 4 года назад

    Why has no one commented on how smooth the footage is on his POV camera?

  • @Jpmfnm
    @Jpmfnm 4 года назад

    Are you going to go to California if u do let me know

  • @KiraYoshikageOfficial
    @KiraYoshikageOfficial 4 года назад

    Haha, FORK over the cash.9:40

  • @letsgoridebikes
    @letsgoridebikes 4 года назад +1

    Fork over the cash... lol. Spending too much time in the pink bike comments haha!

  • @tonya9614
    @tonya9614 4 года назад

    😎

  • @danielwilson807
    @danielwilson807 4 года назад +2

    I Always thought it was weird🤔..

  • @LexZolnir
    @LexZolnir 4 года назад

    its a piece o C product, i grow weary of the internet (JKW) giving it street cred. but hey you tried it w/o buying it!

    • @skullsroad3642
      @skullsroad3642 4 года назад

      Have you tried it?

    • @LexZolnir
      @LexZolnir 4 года назад

      @@skullsroad3642 i dont need too, i have Sixth Sense for bad design, i do however think this innovation will help the move top brands innovation, so i appreciate the attempt and advancement of suspension concept, that i do support just not at $2K

  • @Yvcfthnmklkmm
    @Yvcfthnmklkmm 4 года назад

    0:45 A picture of Sam pilgrims garage

  • @vinceking7878
    @vinceking7878 3 года назад

    Room for improvement for the fork then

  • @luisoviedo7337
    @luisoviedo7337 3 года назад

    why were your brakes sound so loud

  • @chromatechcorp6441
    @chromatechcorp6441 4 года назад +1

    As of today, pricing on the Message fork has been reduced to $1k + ( + = 1k )

  • @GravityOfLife
    @GravityOfLife 4 года назад +3

    The design of the standard fork is more straightforward when dealing with obstacles. The linkage fork has arrived in the wrong chronology of time. Even the linkage forks design looks like a failed engineering.

    • @TheWisator
      @TheWisator 4 года назад

      I think that depends on where the obstacle is coming from. When the obstacle comes at you from the front, evading it by moving up may not be that straightforward and uses more travel than necessary. Because that fork moves backward at the beginning of its travel instead of up, obstacles that are low and encounter the fork from the front (like smaller rocks and bumps while riding at higher speeds), the fork has an advantage over traditional forks because it moves aligned with the direction you are riding. This is why it absorbs small hits on highspeed sections so well. I would not call it failed engineering because of that. They definitely put a lot of thought in the linkage design.
      Of course the downside is that it is way stiffer when the obstacle comes from the bottom. This is why it feels so bad on drops, low speed and big obstacles.
      Compared to conventional forks I would not call it failed engineering but definitely less versatile. I think it was engineered for few specific tasks (cornering, high speeds, etc.). If you have much money to spare and only ride flowy, fast trails, then maybe this is the fork for you. For everyone else (including me) it is too limited in its capabilities and way too expensive (and let´s be honest, a little ugly...). But it definitely has a specific niche on the market (which is big enough to keep the company running at the moment).