Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 The Dangers of Monk Mode 08:13 Should Young Guys Integrate Their Emotions More? 17:12 The Red Pill Converting to Monogamy 24:31 Advice to a 16-Year-Old Guy 28:59 What Young Guys Are Actually Struggling With 33:47 How to Look Attractive 39:56 Why Are We Obsessed With Looks? 46:40 The Lifestyle of a Content Creator 51:44 Regretting Playing the Dopamine Game 56:11 Finding Out Who Hamza Really Is 1:10:47 Questions You Should Ask Yourself 1:14:16 Do Young Men Understand Authenticity? 1:23:30 Ageing Gracefully as a Man 1:27:26 Having Difficult Family Conversations 1:36:15 What is the Definition of Success? 1:45:22 How to Articulate Your Thoughts Better 1:52:02 Where to Find Hamza
At the ~60% mark of the podcast, after the 50 minute mark, I’m really impressed with how gentle yet honestly Chris is trying to guide Hamza to not be too fickle - and to allow himself to be “more real.” Chris being a friend and mentor at the same time; much respect. I’m sure it wasn’t the easiest thing to do - to provide feedback publicly and kudos to Hamza too for taking it well.
That's why I really wanted to hear Chris (a masculine yet open guy) have a conversation with Hamza, who's the textbook definition of an alpha bro turned sour. The grace with which Chris handled critiquing Hamza while still being really nice and understanding is why I admire him so much. He exemplified balancing contradicting thoughts and emotions perfectly.
Usually influencers in the red pill space say contradicting things and you can't properly understand what they seem to believe in, and just do odd shit. Like Hamza who went to fight club then left, then went to be a father then left.
Sometimes we have to forgive the person or the guy (or woman)..... because while his brain feels anxiety depression, his brain isn´t able to feel someone else´s struggle, or feell empathy to others... the brain has its limits, brain can do one big task at once, not two big tasks at once. man may feel pain and struggle at work but his brain is not able at the same time feel the stress of his partner, who may have other form of stress. so as he solves his emotional state, only then he can realize that other people are struggling too. therefore both have to work on themselves to feel empathy. or when he feels pain of the partner, at the same moment his brain isn´t able to realize his own pain and struggle and solve it. Negative emotions are addictive therefore the brain is seeking negative emotions, unless you have a therapy. Only reconciliation and therapy for few months may help both to come to resolution and help each other grow.
@@MvamjbI don't really watch him nowadays because he contradicts himself like every 6 months but the bathrobe Hamza from 2 years ago once saved my life.
he has good advice but he is also completely over himself most of the time. search for "hamza carnivore diet" he deleted the video but its reuploaded from someone. Its the most insane thing I have seen from him..
I've probably watched over 100 of Chris's full videos and this is the first time I'm commenting. I appreciate that he's not just interviewing, but actually providing direction to the guest because he clearly detects that the value in this given interaction is pushing back, not just digging deeper (the middle portion around 1hr in)
It was the perfect intervention for his influencer-kayfabe. Chris brings one of the biggest manosphere life-coach gurus on the show and proceeds to expertly guide him with some life-coaching. Despite not being of the manosphere Chris consistently beats them at their own game. Feeling very good about choosing to listen to Chris and his rotation of heretical psychologists during my ideological detox from college relationship beliefs, rather than Tate, Hamza, etc...at the same time Hamza seems very cool and I look forward to watching him grow up into someone with grounded convictions
I agreed with the comments about seeing the lack of authenticity with Hamza. Then I saw the podcast, thank god I did. Invaluable insights from Chris on this one, on why it’s important to be yourself. Thank you Chris. Thank you Hamza for listening attentively as well.
"lack" who is to say it is Chris job too project what is authentic - Hamza intent could be good enough, suffice and which could have impacted many people...Look I don't know the guy but I call out Chris BS here.
@@keenanvanzileMaybe you should get to know the guy then? Then you'll see what Chris is getting at. Hamza flip flops every few months. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that what Hamza was doing was inauthentic
The way Hamza reacted to Chris while they were talking about authenticity was so great. He actually listened carefully and actually wanted to learn. That is some nice levels of humility.
Everyone’s either trying to be a guru or looking for a guru. You all need to put the damn phones down and go out into the world and get some fresh air and spend more time with yourselves. Then maybe you will get to know what’s in your hearts as well as what is coming out of your mouths.
And spend more time with others aswell. Not in the veil of doing it to get social validation or be "liked" by others, but simply because being around others and talking to other people and sharing your thoughts and ideas will give you pushback and open up real discussions. Because you can learn a ton of things online sitting inside and being isolated for certain periods of time is needed for self-reflection. But these things you "learn" which you might take as gospel, is often not 100% true, but maybe parts of it are true. But if you don't speak to others, get challenged on your views, then you'll never build your own true views and ideals, you'll just be a parrot repeating things other people have said to yourself.
Shame to see the negativity in the comments. This convo was great, a conversation between two young men who care about each other doing their best and still trying to figure out how to be healthy, happy, and successful in an insane age. Give Hamza some grace, for God's sake. Both of these men have done good work, and have bright futures, as far as I can tell.
Hamza my dude, my husband and I fell in love with each other while working at Domino's Pizza. Our first date we had a beer at a local bar, then went to my place and showed each other funny RUclips videos. Next date, we played video games and cooked dinner at his. Sharing food, humor, and work is still our day to day life. Yes, we occasionally suit up fancy and go out, but that is us putting on a costume for a fun night out. What we showed each other first date is who we are, and why we still find each other completely delightful every day over a decade later.
I get where your coming from but in today's world sadly not gonna happen I don't really like Hamza pushing this hustle culture shit because he benefits more from this but he kinda right. The relationship you have is rare back then it's ultra rare now days.
@@GE0attackso true. So much of our lives are based online so these kinds of organic relationships are super rare. You could go out but that also costs a lot of money. Most parent barely make enough money so imagine how much worse it is for younger people. I went to college expecting to have a cool social life and attend events. Instead 90% of my days are spent staring at a screen at home
@@GE0attack this was only ten years ago lol, not five decades ago. Most people I know who are happily married met under very normal circumstances and live very average lives. You do not need to put on some huge show. The Internet is not real life. Don't chase this stupid superficial wealth culture. All you'll find is shallow fake people by being shallow and fake.
You’ve been watching too many power dynamic videos. This is a conversation- they end up on topic of an issue hamza is dealing with- Chris provides his take and guidance- hamza listens intently and takes notes and also adds to the conversation. A great conversationalist is one who listens and not one who controls the power dynamic. Chris and Hamza are incredibly skilled in conversation.
Chris I'm in awe of how eloquently you delivered your advice and critique of Hamza's approach, beginning around halfway through. People who didn't watch this because they don't like Hamza are missing out. I learned more from watching how you handled this interview than I have from a lot of other interviews. A graceful navigation of sensitive content. It really shows the power of simply telling the truth.
The "no-need-to-be-certain" part is pure gold, love how you open up and give direct advice Chris!! Keep being direct and honest, even if you're not a disagreeable person!
This guy is the embodiment of a walking talking contradiction - so many examples, main one being is him dumping his girlfriend, making an hour video on why he dumped her, getting back with her, making a 45 minute video on how he’ll have kids with her, dumping her again & then making another hour video on why he dumped her 😂😂😂
@@LimitlessLifestylePro which is why it's so bad for some people to follow others like it's a cult. everyone makes mistakes and you shouldn't just blindly follow everyone and take what they say as some sort of holy scripture
@@NM-hq1io It's pretty easy to realize if you watch like 10 of his videos. His life descisions go back and forth. Once he was going to pretty much quit youtube and become a fighter, and then quit like 1 week into his training (might have been 2 days). All of this is fine if he didn't claim to be a god who men should follow blindly.
The people complaining are (probably) ex Hamza fans who are upset about how bad him and his content have gotten. They don't need to watch the podcast because they watched hours of his recent videos where he is just saying total bs in 90% of them.
Yeh Chris actually critiqued Hamza at points throughout the discussion . It wasn't two men circle jerking and boasting about how much better they are than the entire population. There was actually some meaningful discussion here.
@@drob4812not ex fan but the guys who have seen him fromhis lows to high now. He's completely contradicts himself i have been watching this guys when he had like 100k subs now he's on 2mil I have seen all of his evolution I know fron what he's out here
Although everyone is making the point that Chris was completely tearing Hamza apart, I’d like to point out that Hamza took the criticism on the chin and that allowed for him to open up and realize more about his situation. He didn’t get defensive but rather listened like a student and took the advice for what it is.
Totally. The only thing that took me by surprise is that Hamza ended the podcast, not Chris. Like it felt abrupt as hell but who knows, maybe it has nothing to do with him being uncomfortable and I'm just overthinking about it.
After twelve years immersed in self-help, I've come to realize a profound truth: the essence of personal fulfillment lies in being unapologetically yourself. This doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to connect with others-being relatable is important. However, it's crucial to express your authentic self in every aspect of life, including romantic relationships, friendships, and social interactions. To do this, one must engage in deep reflection and work through past traumas. Healing these wounds is essential to living and expressing yourself authentically.
been a Hamza supporter since the beginning , even met him in person, but man is that saying “ you either die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
I have so much respect for this host. He didnt just ket hom run wild he actually challenged him compassionately and guess what guys...it worked. Not only did he plant a seed of new growth amd development for this man, he also watered it and gave it sunlight. He went the extra mile to help this man fond understanding instead of judge and belittle him for his ideals. We can all learn SO MUCH from this interview.
Hamza used to be a genuine dude years back, and I do believe he wanted to help in the beginning, but it is clear he lost his way and his ego has overtook him. His advice now is rather toxic, and he never follows his own gospel.
@@brianmeen2158 I don't think its just about toxicity at this point. When you have a mass following of men who look to self-improve just to run it to the ground its hard to regain that trust you once had in your audience. Even so, the respect of your audience is just thrown out the window because there's a glaring lack of credibility that shows in your [in this case Hamza's] history. People can forgive but they won't forget. as the old saying goes "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" -Unknown
A lot of people hating Chris having hamza on, but it’s actually a great mentor to mentee conversation right there. And it’s a really valuable episode for young people.
It's quite surreal for me seeing you guys basically discuss the video i made about hamza and his relationship advice. I have to say, hats off to you Chris for telling Hamza what he needed to hear in such a dignified and classy way. And im also very impressed with how Hamza responded. He really took it on board, and things clearly came to light that he had been surpressing. It will be very interesting to see where Hamza goes from here. He's done so well for himself and helped many young men. But it was clear to me he wasn't being authentic. I wish him well and hope he finds his true path soon enough. Also, I'm manifesting being a guest on this podcast regularly. Haha, you never know..
01:10:46 "For my own personal benefit, what are some questions you think I should ask myself?" - If money and status were no object, what would I do? - If I was less afraid of other people's opinions, what would I say? - What actually makes me happy? - Does success make me happy? - What is my definition of success? - What is my definition of success if money and followers were taken out of the equation? - What are the things that I'm hiding from myself? - What are the emotions I'm unprepared to feel? - What are the things I feel the most shame and guilt about?
Tbh i used to admire hamza. But how he gradually contradicted his own thoughts and plans and just got down the rabit hole of making as much money as possible without even thinking about what audience has to say and just letting his ego boost made me lose respect for him. I don't watch him anymore but I'm still grateful to him for puting me in a path of self improvement and i think the only people that really improved is his audience. Lol
The questions Chris asked Hamza, that we should all be asking ourselves. What a great episode this was. 1. If money and status were no object, what would I do? 2. If I was less afraid of other people's opinions, what would I say? 3. What actually makes me happy? 4. Does success make me happy? 5. What is my definition of success? 6. What is my definition of success if money and followers were taken out of the equation? 7. What are the things that I'm hiding from myself? 8. What are the emotions that I'm unprepared to feel? 9. What are the things that I feel the most shame and guilt around?
I don’t know who this guy is, but I laugh at everyone ripping this without listening. Everyone has something of worth to teach you. It might be a lot, it might be just one thing. No one, even those you follow, should be believed/taken at face value. Because, everyone is wrong and right to different degrees. Only by listening, thinking and verifying will you ever find out the truth.
Maybe. But they aren’t saying what they disagree with. They are saying “don’t have him on” “don’t listen to him” etc. My guess, based on the pattern of the internet, is that they’ve only heard edited snippets or follow others who rip on this guy. They have never actually listened to him in a format like this, unedited, for two hours. Sadly that’s the way many things seem to work these days.
@@Quad038 agree with the first part, but the people who tend to listen to this podcast probably have come from the “self improvement “ scene. If they have come from this scene then they will have watched many videos from and or on Hamza. And based on that, what they are saying probably isn’t unfair. Considering what he’s done .
People already know what he is about, a few lies and "oh I've changed" and fake introspection arenä't going to chagne that when your track record looks like his and is RECENT.
Gg episode. Started off like any other podcast, but about the mid it became more of conversation between close friends, with Chris taking the role of an elder brother of sorts. Great episode!
Can I just say what a journey Hamza has been on for the last couple of months. Went from wanting to start a wholesome family in the woods, to moving to the city so he could smash 304s. What an icon.
when the fuck did he say that 🤦. He literally explained that living in the middle of nowhere with nobody he could relate to or socialise with made him complacent and that he wanted more men around him. Which is the main reason why he and his girlfriend split
@nerd888 why is he running through all these women after the broke up with his girlfriend then? Seems very hypocritical since he preaches casual sex is degenerate.
When I heard Hamza was in Austin, I knew they'd meet up again. Even though I have my criticism surrounding Hamza, these two together have a lot to share.
Script got flipped. Chris showed the wisdom here. After all the interviews he has conducted, he became the expert and this ‘influencer’ the pupil. I think Hamza was gracious and did learn something about himself at least. I can’t believe he is a role model/coach to other men/boys.
Yay but social media is reality now. Look at gen z most of are forever online just imagine what will happen gen alpha becomes 16+ imagine that internet and real world.
About 2 years ago hamzas content was so valuable and I'm so grateful for that. I later realised it was more important to learn through my own experiences and not blindly follow someone who now is very difficult to watch, but the mentality switch that started it all came from him.
I cannot believe Hamza just willingly shared that story about completely betraying his mate because of an argument.. This guy wants to talk about being a strong, reliable man but that is one of the biggest bitch moves I have ever heard.
@@brianmeen2158 Sure, but it tells you quite a lot about someone. Even though he might have changed now. How do we know? Too many just lie and pretend to have changed. And his track record isn't exactly great after that incident.
@@brianmeen2158 I agree with the sentiment. However, he didn’t seem the least bit empathetic or apologetic whilst telling it. From all accounts with the way hes treated other people i.e. girlfriends and editors, hes not learnt a single thing
Heard this on Spotify, just wanted to say a few things after briefly going over the comments here. Hamza helped me to realise that I had some serious addictions and that I couldn't live my best life as long as they weighed me down. On the other hand, there were many times I didn't feel like he had thought his advice all the way through. Hamza said that his peak emotionally was when he had started his dopmaine detox, meditating daily, and simply working towards his goals. No extra fluff or anything fancy, no need for strong convictions. That's why when Chris gave the example of "Fearing having to live in private what one says publicly" strikes right to the core of what Hamza's been experiencing. He's gone deep down many rabbit holes of self-improvement, but it's impossible to live all of them at once. When Hamza was living a simpler life, and being able to walk the example of the words he talked, he was at his peak. Not financially, or in relationship status, but with himself. He has great potential to recognise that simplicity again, and serve as that role model when he returns to that peak.
Appreciate this convo. Honesty from both sides. Listening to each other. I sense authenticity. I appreciate especially the advice Chris gave at the 'Finding Out Who Hamza Really Is' part and how Hamza receives it. Willingness from both sides to dive deeper with the motivation to become better people, better examples for us. I'm 27 years old right now and feel like I can relate to both of these guys. I'm happy they connect and share it with us.
2.5 years since my kid was born and I haven’t had more than 5 hours sleep without waking up. I’ve got bags under my eyes. The shit all still gets done. Don’t worry about not living the perfect Huberman cycle
Love Hamza, but I swear I have just witnessed Chris channel his furiosity (if that's a word) into a subtle lecture giving no space for a counter-adjustment. Well Done Chris! Your body language spoke volumes. You did give away the energy you were feeling during some points but I feel they were intentional.
Questions to ask yourself: If money and status were no object, what would I do? If I was less afraid of other people’s opinions, what would I say? What actually makes me happy? Does success make me happy? What is my definition of success? What is my definition of success if money is taken out of the equation? What are the things I’m hiding from myself? What are the emotions I’m unprepared to feel? What are the things that I feel the most shame and guilt around?
"We start out knowing what is important to us, but once we’ve achieved it, we lose sight of our priorities. Ego sways us, and can ruin us" - Ryan Holiday in his book 'Ego is the Enemy' I hope Hamza gets back on track after this interview, He changed my life, I don't want him to stop changing people's lives due to his ego blinding him.
Hamza commands an army of 14 year olds and that gave him a god complex. He influences boys to become cartoon men, never their real authentic self because he is a cartoon himself.
Engaging with Hamza only makes Chris look audience hungry and slimy himself. Hamza has a "cult" of exploited teenagers he charges hundreds of pounds just to tell them to cut off their friends in their most formative years and "grind." The way he has openly bragged about hurting friends and loved ones is disgusting, which is why he's now deleted those videos. Do not allow this man to re-invent himself as a guru. Have some integrity by refusing to engage with people who are openly cruel to just to massage their own ego and feel powerful. This man is a Jeffrey with the body of an Adonis. That's it.
Tell me you didn’t watch the pod without telling me me you didn’t want the pod. This whole engagement was because Hamza is Chris’s fiend and so u instead of merely appeasing Hamzas dialogue actually offered his own advice on how to improve his current disingenuous approach.
@@zekite6467 smbdy like hamza doesnt give af about his viewers , nor does chris really , but while chris advice is pretty harmless , hamza is extreme and dumb
As an older guy watching this, I actually think Chris is the one who’s playing the status game. Is he actually being authentic or faking authenticity? Well played
I freaking love how easily Chris read Hamza. Make sure your convictions are true to who you actually are, not just what wave you’re on. But Hamza is still very young and has a lot of growth to do
I remember seeing a video of Hamza talking about how important that carnivore diet was and that it was the perfect way of eating. He was a carnivore for no less than a week and told his audience to avoid all carbs and fibre. It was the most insane video Ive ever seen. A man to speak with such conviction on something he literally knows nothing about was insane to see lmao 😂 I know his done this with multiple different things in the past but for me the carnivore video was by far the worst thing I’ve ever seen
He's a super indecisive creator, a total hypocrite and deals in absolutes to his young fans who'll take it as gospel... The carnivore diet for example, if you don't do it you're a 'jeffery', it's all to build a 'us vs them' cult-like following (usually young kids as they are easily influenced)
This podcast has so much value, I realized I have lost my own sense of self because of consuming content. I'm 16 years Old and I was over thinking every thing in my life. Get back to meditation, it's so healing. Pozdrawiam❤
@@benstanleyfx Sara and Hamza, give more examples if it's LOAD OF PEOPLE. And maybe they are not useful for you but they can be useful for younger audience
He probably resonated with his old content like many others, during the video he gives constructive criticism to Hamza because he sees the potential in him to help his audience, I think Chris wanted to teach him how to be more authentic and self-aware to actually help young people
As a young man, I was not expecting this conversation to have so many deep insights about personal identity and real success. Great conversation, Chris
This episode has only been up for 15 minutes and people are already tearing it down. Everyone has flaws, but to immediately bash an episode before watching it in its entirety is foolish. Hate never comes from above as they say.
@Sam97-oi4vc I see your point, but you have to admit. It ridiculous for people to start basing a 2 hour podcast 20 minutes after it dropped before they even listened to the same thing.
@Sam97-oi4vc I agree with you. I disagree with a lot of Hamzas takes. But I also think he has a lot of value to give, hence why he’s got to where he’s gotten to. Most of these comments have no reasoning behind the criticism.
Chris you hit the nail on the head when telling Hamza to tread carefully with his conviction 1:01:50. It seems mature people see through the ‘dealing in absolutes’, hence why Hamza’s audience is so young. They take everything as gospel and the constant flips on views when speaking so strongly on a topic just comes across as disingenuous The ‘cult’ ‘us vs them’ approach is soley based on conviction, this is why he does it! That’s why people who see through this, call Hamza a scammer… Not saying personally that he is but it’s easy to lay that perspective. He looks like a hypocrite and open mindedness would go a long way with real men/women not just kids This is why Chris is the goat, brings the nuance even if it doesn’t appeal to the agenda that does well… Keep it up Chris… the new wave is chasing the ‘intellectual Chad’ not this 'red pill' open shirt cigar bullsh*t
Being someone who followed Hamza for a while and Now big fan of Chris, watching this episode. It is eye opening. Both of them are great people. Really Good job
Never heard about this podcast before, but i am really impressed by the life lesson chris gave Hamza in this. Very intelligent man and lots to learn from him. If Hamza really listened to what chris said and implements it this will improve his whole life a lot.
This is my first time watching one of Chris' videos, I've always seen him on Instagram and what not but never jumped on his podcasts until now. I didn't realise how much I needed to hear this, but I did, and I'm glad I did. Only jumped on this video now because of a.. "breakup" I'm going through, and its my first. I thought, I was mentally mature enough to deal with this sort of thing, but it this experience has very harshly taught me that I'm no where near ready. It's been about a week now, and I keep telling myself I'm getting over it, mainly through telling myself she's over it and got over it so quickly, but I do know I'm really not over it, probably never will be. But what I took away from this podcast, I think, was acceptance and being able to move on. I realise now how clingy I was being and possibly also ruined how we did end on good terms as a result of being so clingy, but I suppose now I need to move on, I need to really find myself and grow from whatever happened. I keep telling myself, I was fine before, I'll be fine now, but I realise that I'm only reading backwards by saying so. I need to learn, I need to read forward. I still think it will take me some time to fully be okay since I am very introverted and just lock it all up inside me, but I think.. I will get there.
You'll get there. It takes time to process all of the emotions and thoughts about it. Life is different when someone you held onto falls away. So, give yourself the gift of time. You don't have to be okay right now, and that's okay. Be prepared for the stages of grief, because that's what happens with loss. It means you're a functioning human being, you're supposed to go through all of these things. You'll be fine, but it will take some time. How much time? Who knows. Be generous and compassionate to yourself, treat yourself as you would do a loved one. And try to be courageous and try vulnerability with people you trust. They'll help you through it.
Hamza took this really well. We gotta guide people to the right path just because he’s whole life on is display doesn’t mean he can’t make mistake yes maybe he should be more authentic but overall he’s a greatly greatly positive Influence on this generation of men. I didn’t meditate till hamza started talking about it and it has done too much for in my life and I’m forever grateful to him.
Chris: Putting in effort to do and be better doesn’t mean you’re being inauthentic; it just means you actively care. You’re being who you truly are when you truly care. This is why we so clearly notice and strongly dislike when people stop trying: it shows they no longer care.
Listen to everyone. Then make up your mind after. Everyone has something to teach you. Maybe a lot. Maybe just one small thing. Everyone is wrong and everyone is right to different degrees…….
I watch every episode of this show on principle. Never heard of Hamza. Was enjoyable seeing this evolution of Chris’s ability to say uncomfortable things and be a much needed mentor. 👍
I don't think you were a sigma from the start. Sigma male came into this world already sigma they don't get bored because that's just the way they are.
@@tristongraham6907 Not going to try to prove myself to you. But I’ve moved from red pill to listening to people like Adam Lane Smith. Done being a bachelor and I’m proposing in a month (I’m 43). I was avoidant with unrealistic expectations.
As a wannabe popular creator, I have 15 Million + veiws on LinkedIn and Quora. I know what the audience wnats to hear, it gets me veiws. But when I try truth, no one reads/likes/reacts or comments. As a content creator it is very hard to be authentic and make money. Maybe Hamza only wanted to make money as a creator? Maybe he never wanted to be a guide/guru who is also broke? Which is why Hamza is listening seriously. Hamza knos the ideal path, but Chris has managed authenticity and popularity/success all at once.
I believe that most people in these comments got this video wrong. I don’t believe that Chris gave Hamza a beat down or unwanted lecture, I think that Hamza had a cry for help in this moment needing this conversation of not trying to be perfect. Hamza genuinely needs a good role model to look up to which Chris can be, as he has been in this industry for much longer and is more wise in the sense of being authentic and having integrity.
Never heard of Hamza before this podcast. One thing that struck me as fairly disturbing is the ~1200 followers who met with him in Vegas and the 13 yr old boy who said he doesnt fit in and so quit school since noone else understand his worldview and "life optimization strategy". How much of this damage is actually caused by Hamza and other online "lifestyle influencers" infecting the minds of our kids. This kid is going to grow up unable to engage with anyone who doesnt agree with his worldview which will likely result in a very lonely life. Basically the internet is rotting the minds of our kids.
On the one hand, I totally agree. On the other hand, I used to be in his paid community and I know exactly who he's talking about. At some point the kid is going to go through a socialization arc for sure, and he'll learn to adjust to people then. To be fair, it's not all that different from my own story, except his influence was largely from an internet personality rather than his family. Kid's only 13, he's got more than enough time to balance out his priorities, skills, and experiences. When I was his age I was very similar, but for different reasons. From 12-18 my life was completely consumed by school, sports, and the family business (restaurant). At 18 I went to college, which meant less school, less sports, and less participation in the family business. Since then, I've returned to the family business but I prioritize socialization and life balance a lot more than I did in my adolescence. I've got faith in the kid. He's got good people in his corner, his family especially, and will more than likely turn out alright. I will say, however, that you're certainly onto something with how Hamza and other lifestyle influencers are infecting the minds of the youth. How that affects each child will vary on a case-by-case basis, so it's more important than ever that we take care of our children and steward the youth of our communities!
The kid will outgrow it. I followed ridiculous online personalities at that age and they became gateways to more sensible people like Chris. He’ll be fine, he has so much time to figure it out.
Ohh you're so wrong. That kid (I assume, if he watches Hamza) has a growth mindset and he'll eventually see the truth about interacting with the world. And he'll probably be in a better place 10 years from now than the average guy.
What a phenomenal podcast, I used to follow Hamza religiously and I didn’t even realize when I pivoted to Chris Williamson. Now seeing this podcast with Hamza, who I share a lot of views with was phenomenal because Chris was giving him (me) some great big brother advice.
chris giving hamza advice reminded me why hamza unfiltered was the best content hamza ever made. raw, uncut and full of authenticity. but the game is game i guess...
This was such a great episode. It really helped me to realize that being as genuine as possible, as much as possible, is going to yield the best results in the future.
I don’t see Hamza as a guru. I see hazmza as the guy next door who is also fan of the red pill space and who makes reasonable commentary on the trends in the red pill space.
Such a great episode. I have been following hamza's journey for quite some time now. I absolutely thought that him sitting down with you would make up a great conversation and one from which Hamza and all of us, as audiences can learn a lot from . Grateful for the work you do Chris.
Hamza took more than he deserved to here. AND is an important word whenever judging things. Seemingly contradicting ideas can both be true at once. Definitely some points here where he could have said, I've got to stop you there, or, repeated a statement back to him and said that's not quite the case because X, and this other part of what you're saying has some truth to it
I loved listening to this podcast. I've been a fan of Hamza for some time, and this was the first time I felt a personal connection since I can relate to so many of the battles he still faces. We routing for you bro!
I like Hamza, his longer form videos have gotten me into sorting myself out and building something for myself, but he is actually quite dumb, and still a young lad. That said, he’s a good example of how you can still become very successful while being quite stupid, as long as you’re driven and have a purpose and do the work. You don’t need to be very smart or talented to succeed, actually. I think Hamza is a good example to follow to not hold yourself back, and just put the work in and go for what you want anyway.
Chris pointed out the very reason I stopped watching Hamza, yes he was the one to put me on self improvement but him not being real to himself just confused the young audiance about life.
Hamza has a fascinating character arc, and I'm excited to see what's next especially after such a seemingly formative conversation. I think the point regarding conforming to what is positively reinforced by the internet is something we will see more and more of. The pull between what will earn you virality vs. being authentic is tricky one to navigate especially in such formative years during your early twenties. Do you do what works or never establish the positive content feedback loop? I'm surprised so many people default to negative regarding Hamza. I tend to think we are seeing a man who is a great communicator, understands what works online and someone who is finding themselves. I love that this turned into a coaching session as Chris has been through a similar transformation and has a lot to offer in terms of guidance. The 'coaching segment' is gold imo, but not many are willing to entertain the conversation that leads to it. I'd love to know what the resource is in questions for introspection and journalling that Chris discussed.
Hamza does this weird thing where he laughs while telling a story, that’s usually putting someone else or another group down, while Chris doesn’t react to it at all. It’s like that nervous bs laugh
I'm only an hour and 20 minutes in but wow, it's hard to believe but Hamza has the same struggles as most of the guys I know and me as well. This is so different than what I would have expected, he built an image of himself, a persona so disconnected, he doesn't he know who he is anymore saying things that he thinks his persona would say. Like from the legendary Shrek movie, peel all the layers and nothings there. I hope he becomes more genuine and learns more this podcast to me this is very relatable holding up an image and trying to keep people happy. Also, thank you Chris many of the advice you've suggested I think will help me so much in my future relationships
One of the best episodes of a podcast I've ever watched! The kind of conversation that I'd like to have with my own friends, but getting to watch two people, operating at a high level in their own lives, have it between themselves. Genuinely good authentic conversation
I have autism and it is nice to have a few close friends, isn't all a bad thing because I learned to handle the bad things and improve the good things about it. Autism is about devoting the most energy towards finding the most outside of the box and unique solution to a problem whilst neglecting the stupid obvious solutions right in front of you. I have the ability now to give up the most different approach in certain scenarios now and it feels good to have autism because I can still find the abstract things that others have trouble finding. Rather than performing at a decent rate all of the time, I perform at a below average rate whilst having vivid impulses of extremely good performance. I came home from college on a Thursday once and failed at concentrating on any of my coursework. On the Friday and Saturday I would not do it and be guilty, but on Sunday I did 6 hours of work in the morning, completing a most of an assignment (probably a week of work). I am getting better at social skills now and I am realising that I am not that different from everyone else and the problems I have are not just autism related. It think it is probably a good idea to live a better life than the 40-60% of (lets just call them) NPCs. By NPCs I mean people who are similar to eachother, have the same bad habits, biases and flaws in deeper intelligence. It is good to slowly expose the flaws in any biased aggression that they may have towards you, do this in a way that does not make them feel instantly threatened. It is good to combat the bad thing that somebody does to you rather than them the first time, but for the second time it is best to combat them.
Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps:
00:00 The Dangers of Monk Mode
08:13 Should Young Guys Integrate Their Emotions More?
17:12 The Red Pill Converting to Monogamy
24:31 Advice to a 16-Year-Old Guy
28:59 What Young Guys Are Actually Struggling With
33:47 How to Look Attractive
39:56 Why Are We Obsessed With Looks?
46:40 The Lifestyle of a Content Creator
51:44 Regretting Playing the Dopamine Game
56:11 Finding Out Who Hamza Really Is
1:10:47 Questions You Should Ask Yourself
1:14:16 Do Young Men Understand Authenticity?
1:23:30 Ageing Gracefully as a Man
1:27:26 Having Difficult Family Conversations
1:36:15 What is the Definition of Success?
1:45:22 How to Articulate Your Thoughts Better
1:52:02 Where to Find Hamza
How are you often talking with engineering terms while your degree is in business i am really curious
all the love mate
Thanks Chris ! I appreciate you as a person and what you do ! Would love to meet you IRL.
Chris was being a big brother here, you really good at giving advise and I really hope Hamza took it to heart.
I wish I had this when I started working to improve myself
At the ~60% mark of the podcast, after the 50 minute mark, I’m really impressed with how gentle yet honestly Chris is trying to guide Hamza to not be too fickle - and to allow himself to be “more real.”
Chris being a friend and mentor at the same time; much respect. I’m sure it wasn’t the easiest thing to do - to provide feedback publicly and kudos to Hamza too for taking it well.
That's why I really wanted to hear Chris (a masculine yet open guy) have a conversation with Hamza, who's the textbook definition of an alpha bro turned sour.
The grace with which Chris handled critiquing Hamza while still being really nice and understanding is why I admire him so much. He exemplified balancing contradicting thoughts and emotions perfectly.
@@QfWwithDiviK I agree. Chris was modeling something we don’t often see good examples of.
Usually influencers in the red pill space say contradicting things and you can't properly understand what they seem to believe in, and just do odd shit.
Like Hamza who went to fight club then left, then went to be a father then left.
Sometimes we have to forgive the person or the guy (or woman)..... because while his brain feels anxiety depression, his brain isn´t able to feel someone else´s struggle,
or feell empathy to others...
the brain has its limits, brain can do one big task at once, not two big tasks at once.
man may feel pain and struggle at work
but his brain is not able at the same time feel the stress of his partner, who may have other form of stress.
so as he solves his emotional state, only then he can realize that other people are struggling too.
therefore both have to work on themselves to feel empathy.
or when he feels pain of the partner, at the same moment his brain isn´t able to realize his own pain and struggle and solve it.
Negative emotions are addictive therefore the brain is seeking negative emotions, unless you have a therapy.
Only reconciliation and therapy for few months may help both to come to resolution and help each other grow.
this
Idc what other people think about Hamza. This man had made me quit my addictions and taught me how to be proud of myself.
@@MvamjbI don't really watch him nowadays because he contradicts himself like every 6 months but the bathrobe Hamza from 2 years ago once saved my life.
@@MvamjbWhy do you think he is on drugs?
@@user-pb2qi2tn4i yea thats called self improvement, u improve everytime, gets input, see thing differently
he has good advice but he is also completely over himself most of the time. search for "hamza carnivore diet" he deleted the video but its reuploaded from someone.
Its the most insane thing I have seen from him..
Hamza got me into meditation. Today my life is different for the better. I'll never forget him or appreciate him any less due to the value he gave me.
I've probably watched over 100 of Chris's full videos and this is the first time I'm commenting. I appreciate that he's not just interviewing, but actually providing direction to the guest because he clearly detects that the value in this given interaction is pushing back, not just digging deeper (the middle portion around 1hr in)
It was the perfect intervention for his influencer-kayfabe. Chris brings one of the biggest manosphere life-coach gurus on the show and proceeds to expertly guide him with some life-coaching. Despite not being of the manosphere Chris consistently beats them at their own game.
Feeling very good about choosing to listen to Chris and his rotation of heretical psychologists during my ideological detox from college relationship beliefs, rather than Tate, Hamza, etc...at the same time Hamza seems very cool and I look forward to watching him grow up into someone with grounded convictions
Some of the people hating on hamza need to watch the podcast, he took the criticism in stride and is clearly very open to improve.
facts
That doesn't really make sense. Him realizing his faults doesn't make the things he's done in his past suddenly go away.
That’s only because he knows Chris is way smarter than him
I agreed with the comments about seeing the lack of authenticity with Hamza. Then I saw the podcast, thank god I did. Invaluable insights from Chris on this one, on why it’s important to be yourself. Thank you Chris. Thank you Hamza for listening attentively as well.
"lack" who is to say it is Chris job too project what is authentic - Hamza intent could be good enough, suffice and which could have impacted many people...Look I don't know the guy but I call out Chris BS here.
@@keenanvanzileMaybe you should get to know the guy then? Then you'll see what Chris is getting at. Hamza flip flops every few months. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that what Hamza was doing was inauthentic
I enjoyed watching hamza getting a unsolicited lecture
Why do you think it was unsolicited? he wasnt being resistant to it one bit but rather took notes and really listened to what he had to say
try to be openminded so you can understand open minded people ..
@@cephas3090 How open minded though? Until our brains fall out?
Dude was literally taking notes of what Chris was saying and you and you say it was unsolicited? At least he,'s trying to be better.
Sounds like your comment is coming from your ego
The way Hamza reacted to Chris while they were talking about authenticity was so great. He actually listened carefully and actually wanted to learn. That is some nice levels of humility.
Everyone’s either trying to be a guru or looking for a guru. You all need to put the damn phones down and go out into the world and get some fresh air and spend more time with yourselves. Then maybe you will get to know what’s in your hearts as well as what is coming out of your mouths.
Thanks bro
Yes go talk to a human
this is best advice for men i've ever heard. genuinely reflect on your own behavior and pick up hobbies to enhance your life...not to date. bravo.
Yes people, go touch some grass
And spend more time with others aswell. Not in the veil of doing it to get social validation or be "liked" by others, but simply because being around others and talking to other people and sharing your thoughts and ideas will give you pushback and open up real discussions. Because you can learn a ton of things online sitting inside and being isolated for certain periods of time is needed for self-reflection. But these things you "learn" which you might take as gospel, is often not 100% true, but maybe parts of it are true. But if you don't speak to others, get challenged on your views, then you'll never build your own true views and ideals, you'll just be a parrot repeating things other people have said to yourself.
Shame to see the negativity in the comments. This convo was great, a conversation between two young men who care about each other doing their best and still trying to figure out how to be healthy, happy, and successful in an insane age. Give Hamza some grace, for God's sake. Both of these men have done good work, and have bright futures, as far as I can tell.
Negativity is okay if it's insightful and thruthful
@@mrcoldshower465 not really when its just echoing the same thing while not actually listening or thinking for themselves.
@@mrcoldshower465when has negativity ever helped anyone?
Hamza my dude, my husband and I fell in love with each other while working at Domino's Pizza. Our first date we had a beer at a local bar, then went to my place and showed each other funny RUclips videos. Next date, we played video games and cooked dinner at his. Sharing food, humor, and work is still our day to day life. Yes, we occasionally suit up fancy and go out, but that is us putting on a costume for a fun night out. What we showed each other first date is who we are, and why we still find each other completely delightful every day over a decade later.
I love this
I get where your coming from but in today's world sadly not gonna happen I don't really like Hamza pushing this hustle culture shit because he benefits more from this but he kinda right. The relationship you have is rare back then it's ultra rare now days.
@@GE0attack it’s rare but possiblr
@@GE0attackso true. So much of our lives are based online so these kinds of organic relationships are super rare.
You could go out but that also costs a lot of money. Most parent barely make enough money so imagine how much worse it is for younger people.
I went to college expecting to have a cool social life and attend events. Instead 90% of my days are spent staring at a screen at home
@@GE0attack this was only ten years ago lol, not five decades ago. Most people I know who are happily married met under very normal circumstances and live very average lives. You do not need to put on some huge show. The Internet is not real life. Don't chase this stupid superficial wealth culture. All you'll find is shallow fake people by being shallow and fake.
It almost feels like Hamza is the Jeffery and Chris is Adonis. The Power level is Noticeable in the first 30Mins. Eitherways great talk Chris!
I think hamza is likely to mature significantly over the next few years.
You’ve been watching too many power dynamic videos. This is a conversation- they end up on topic of an issue hamza is dealing with- Chris provides his take and guidance- hamza listens intently and takes notes and also adds to the conversation. A great conversationalist is one who listens and not one who controls the power dynamic. Chris and Hamza are incredibly skilled in conversation.
@@jattytakeover7099 Yea . I realised that to the End. Thanks
He is learning that is very mature but he is gonna apply this knowledge also very mature
There’s a 10 years age gap too
Chris I'm in awe of how eloquently you delivered your advice and critique of Hamza's approach, beginning around halfway through. People who didn't watch this because they don't like Hamza are missing out. I learned more from watching how you handled this interview than I have from a lot of other interviews. A graceful navigation of sensitive content. It really shows the power of simply telling the truth.
The "no-need-to-be-certain" part is pure gold, love how you open up and give direct advice Chris!! Keep being direct and honest, even if you're not a disagreeable person!
This guy is the embodiment of a walking talking contradiction - so many examples, main one being is him dumping his girlfriend, making an hour video on why he dumped her, getting back with her, making a 45 minute video on how he’ll have kids with her, dumping her again & then making another hour video on why he dumped her 😂😂😂
You just realized he’s a human?
@@LimitlessLifestylePro which is why it's so bad for some people to follow others like it's a cult. everyone makes mistakes and you shouldn't just blindly follow everyone and take what they say as some sort of holy scripture
@@maxx1337well said
@@LimitlessLifestyleProjust realised he’s a walking talking contradiction?
@@NM-hq1io It's pretty easy to realize if you watch like 10 of his videos. His life descisions go back and forth. Once he was going to pretty much quit youtube and become a fighter, and then quit like 1 week into his training (might have been 2 days). All of this is fine if he didn't claim to be a god who men should follow blindly.
I’m not really a fan of Hamza. But y’all won’t even check out the video before tearing it down?😂
The people complaining are (probably) ex Hamza fans who are upset about how bad him and his content have gotten. They don't need to watch the podcast because they watched hours of his recent videos where he is just saying total bs in 90% of them.
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Yeh Chris actually critiqued Hamza at points throughout the discussion
. It wasn't two men circle jerking and boasting about how much better they are than the entire population.
There was actually some meaningful discussion here.
@@drob4812They do need to watch if they are going to crap on. He isn’t saying 90% BS here.
@@drob4812not ex fan but the guys who have seen him fromhis lows to high now. He's completely contradicts himself i have been watching this guys when he had like 100k subs now he's on 2mil I have seen all of his evolution I know fron what he's out here
Although everyone is making the point that Chris was completely tearing Hamza apart, I’d like to point out that Hamza took the criticism on the chin and that allowed for him to open up and realize more about his situation. He didn’t get defensive but rather listened like a student and took the advice for what it is.
Totally. The only thing that took me by surprise is that Hamza ended the podcast, not Chris. Like it felt abrupt as hell but who knows, maybe it has nothing to do with him being uncomfortable and I'm just overthinking about it.
After twelve years immersed in self-help, I've come to realize a profound truth: the essence of personal fulfillment lies in being unapologetically yourself. This doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to connect with others-being relatable is important. However, it's crucial to express your authentic self in every aspect of life, including romantic relationships, friendships, and social interactions. To do this, one must engage in deep reflection and work through past traumas. Healing these wounds is essential to living and expressing yourself authentically.
been a Hamza supporter since the beginning , even met him in person, but man is that saying “ you either die as a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
I have so much respect for this host. He didnt just ket hom run wild he actually challenged him compassionately and guess what guys...it worked. Not only did he plant a seed of new growth amd development for this man, he also watered it and gave it sunlight. He went the extra mile to help this man fond understanding instead of judge and belittle him for his ideals. We can all learn SO MUCH from this interview.
Hamza used to be a genuine dude years back, and I do believe he wanted to help in the beginning, but it is clear he lost his way and his ego has overtook him.
His advice now is rather toxic, and he never follows his own gospel.
Straight up, well said
yup
@@brianmeen2158 I don't think its just about toxicity at this point. When you have a mass following of men who look to self-improve just to run it to the ground its hard to regain that trust you once had in your audience. Even so, the respect of your audience is just thrown out the window because there's a glaring lack of credibility that shows in your [in this case Hamza's] history. People can forgive but they won't forget.
as the old saying goes "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" -Unknown
A lot of people hating Chris having hamza on, but it’s actually a great mentor to mentee conversation right there. And it’s a really valuable episode for young people.
Heavily agreed!
It's quite surreal for me seeing you guys basically discuss the video i made about hamza and his relationship advice. I have to say, hats off to you Chris for telling Hamza what he needed to hear in such a dignified and classy way. And im also very impressed with how Hamza responded. He really took it on board, and things clearly came to light that he had been surpressing. It will be very interesting to see where Hamza goes from here. He's done so well for himself and helped many young men. But it was clear to me he wasn't being authentic. I wish him well and hope he finds his true path soon enough.
Also, I'm manifesting being a guest on this podcast regularly. Haha, you never know..
People in the comments are discussing your video?
@@TristanRiehl thanks man! 🙏
You've made it to the big leagues now
@@Ryanhorganunfilteredhe took the constructive criticism very well, I genuinely think he’ll grow from this.
01:10:46 "For my own personal benefit, what are some questions you think I should ask myself?"
- If money and status were no object, what would I do?
- If I was less afraid of other people's opinions, what would I say?
- What actually makes me happy?
- Does success make me happy?
- What is my definition of success?
- What is my definition of success if money and followers were taken out of the equation?
- What are the things that I'm hiding from myself?
- What are the emotions I'm unprepared to feel?
- What are the things I feel the most shame and guilt about?
Tbh i used to admire hamza. But how he gradually contradicted his own thoughts and plans and just got down the rabit hole of making as much money as possible without even thinking about what audience has to say and just letting his ego boost made me lose respect for him. I don't watch him anymore but I'm still grateful to him for puting me in a path of self improvement and i think the only people that really improved is his audience. Lol
U putting this comment out makes you no different than him
The questions Chris asked Hamza, that we should all be asking ourselves. What a great episode this was.
1. If money and status were no object, what would I do?
2. If I was less afraid of other people's opinions, what would I say?
3. What actually makes me happy?
4. Does success make me happy?
5. What is my definition of success?
6. What is my definition of success if money and followers were taken out of the equation?
7. What are the things that I'm hiding from myself?
8. What are the emotions that I'm unprepared to feel?
9. What are the things that I feel the most shame and guilt around?
growing up in a single parent home with my mom, I feel like I just had a conversation with a dad that I never had...
I don’t know who this guy is, but I laugh at everyone ripping this without listening.
Everyone has something of worth to teach you. It might be a lot, it might be just one thing. No one, even those you follow, should be believed/taken at face value. Because, everyone is wrong and right to different degrees. Only by listening, thinking and verifying will you ever find out the truth.
Because they have watched his content and know what is wrong with him.
Maybe. But they aren’t saying what they disagree with. They are saying “don’t have him on” “don’t listen to him” etc.
My guess, based on the pattern of the internet, is that they’ve only heard edited snippets or follow others who rip on this guy. They have never actually listened to him in a format like this, unedited, for two hours.
Sadly that’s the way many things seem to work these days.
@@Quad038 agree with the first part, but the people who tend to listen to this podcast probably have come from the “self improvement “ scene.
If they have come from this scene then they will have watched many videos from and or on Hamza. And based on that, what they are saying probably isn’t unfair. Considering what he’s done .
People already know what he is about, a few lies and "oh I've changed" and fake introspection arenä't going to chagne that when your track record looks like his and is RECENT.
@@TuscanBrickwhy is he a scammer?
Gg episode. Started off like any other podcast, but about the mid it became more of conversation between close friends, with Chris taking the role of an elder brother of sorts.
Great episode!
Can I just say what a journey Hamza has been on for the last couple of months. Went from wanting to start a wholesome family in the woods, to moving to the city so he could smash 304s. What an icon.
when the fuck did he say that 🤦. He literally explained that living in the middle of nowhere with nobody he could relate to or socialise with made him complacent and that he wanted more men around him. Which is the main reason why he and his girlfriend split
@nerd888 why is he running through all these women after the broke up with his girlfriend then? Seems very hypocritical since he preaches casual sex is degenerate.
@@lewisstroud5399He isn't, he didn't say any of that. This dude twisted his words big time bro.
When I heard Hamza was in Austin, I knew they'd meet up again. Even though I have my criticism surrounding Hamza, these two together have a lot to share.
Script got flipped. Chris showed the wisdom here. After all the interviews he has conducted, he became the expert and this ‘influencer’ the pupil. I think Hamza was gracious and did learn something about himself at least. I can’t believe he is a role model/coach to other men/boys.
Hamza is to those boys as Chris is to Hamza. Those 10 years of difference are noticeable.
His opinions are completely warped by social media and not real life.
Yay but social media is reality now. Look at gen z most of are forever online just imagine what will happen gen alpha becomes 16+ imagine that internet and real world.
About 2 years ago hamzas content was so valuable and I'm so grateful for that. I later realised it was more important to learn through my own experiences and not blindly follow someone who now is very difficult to watch, but the mentality switch that started it all came from him.
I cannot believe Hamza just willingly shared that story about completely betraying his mate because of an argument.. This guy wants to talk about being a strong, reliable man but that is one of the biggest bitch moves I have ever heard.
@@brianmeen2158yeah for real, I’ve done all kinds of messed up stuff I wouldn’t do again haha
Yes that is the whole point why he is sharing it
@@brianmeen2158 Sure, but it tells you quite a lot about someone. Even though he might have changed now. How do we know? Too many just lie and pretend to have changed. And his track record isn't exactly great after that incident.
@@brianmeen2158 I agree with the sentiment. However, he didn’t seem the least bit empathetic or apologetic whilst telling it. From all accounts with the way hes treated other people i.e. girlfriends and editors, hes not learnt a single thing
@@tepeshini If he sounded apologetic i would agree. Brushed over it like it was nothing
Heard this on Spotify, just wanted to say a few things after briefly going over the comments here.
Hamza helped me to realise that I had some serious addictions and that I couldn't live my best life as long as they weighed me down.
On the other hand, there were many times I didn't feel like he had thought his advice all the way through.
Hamza said that his peak emotionally was when he had started his dopmaine detox, meditating daily, and simply working towards his goals. No extra fluff or anything fancy, no need for strong convictions.
That's why when Chris gave the example of "Fearing having to live in private what one says publicly" strikes right to the core of what Hamza's been experiencing.
He's gone deep down many rabbit holes of self-improvement, but it's impossible to live all of them at once.
When Hamza was living a simpler life, and being able to walk the example of the words he talked, he was at his peak. Not financially, or in relationship status, but with himself.
He has great potential to recognise that simplicity again, and serve as that role model when he returns to that peak.
Very insightful
wow very well written 👍
Appreciate this convo.
Honesty from both sides. Listening to each other. I sense authenticity.
I appreciate especially the advice Chris gave at the 'Finding Out Who Hamza Really Is' part and how Hamza receives it. Willingness from both sides to dive deeper with the motivation to become better people, better examples for us.
I'm 27 years old right now and feel like I can relate to both of these guys. I'm happy they connect and share it with us.
Damn. Big bro Chris is a huge vibe.
2.5 years since my kid was born and I haven’t had more than 5 hours sleep without waking up. I’ve got bags under my eyes. The shit all still gets done. Don’t worry about not living the perfect Huberman cycle
People judging without watching. There is lot to take.
Love Hamza, but I swear I have just witnessed Chris channel his furiosity (if that's a word) into a subtle lecture giving no space for a counter-adjustment. Well Done Chris! Your body language spoke volumes. You did give away the energy you were feeling during some points but I feel they were intentional.
Questions to ask yourself:
If money and status were no object, what would I do?
If I was less afraid of other people’s opinions, what would I say?
What actually makes me happy? Does success make me happy? What is my definition of success? What is my definition of success if money is taken out of the equation?
What are the things I’m hiding from myself?
What are the emotions I’m unprepared to feel?
What are the things that I feel the most shame and guilt around?
"We start out knowing what is important to us, but once we’ve achieved it, we lose sight of our priorities. Ego sways us, and can ruin us"
- Ryan Holiday in his book 'Ego is the Enemy'
I hope Hamza gets back on track after this interview, He changed my life, I don't want him to stop changing people's lives due to his ego blinding him.
The way Chris gives Hamza advice is absolutely amazing
Hamza commands an army of 14 year olds and that gave him a god complex.
He influences boys to become cartoon men, never their real authentic self because he is a cartoon himself.
Fake it till u make it
Mad respect to Hamza for not getting defensive and taking it on the chin.
If Hamza can do it, I can do it, Chris, I'm coming for you.
cant wait to see you on the podcast bro 💪💪💪
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That's the right mindset g. I'll be on the pod one day too
Hamza is the most random guest.
Engaging with Hamza only makes Chris look audience hungry and slimy himself. Hamza has a "cult" of exploited teenagers he charges hundreds of pounds just to tell them to cut off their friends in their most formative years and "grind." The way he has openly bragged about hurting friends and loved ones is disgusting, which is why he's now deleted those videos. Do not allow this man to re-invent himself as a guru. Have some integrity by refusing to engage with people who are openly cruel to just to massage their own ego and feel powerful. This man is a Jeffrey with the body of an Adonis. That's it.
Tell me you didn’t watch the pod without telling me me you didn’t want the pod.
This whole engagement was because Hamza is Chris’s fiend and so u instead of merely appeasing Hamzas dialogue actually offered his own advice on how to improve his current disingenuous approach.
@@zekite6467 smbdy like hamza doesnt give af about his viewers , nor does chris really , but while chris advice is pretty harmless , hamza is extreme and dumb
As an older guy watching this, I actually think Chris is the one who’s playing the status game. Is he actually being authentic or faking authenticity? Well played
Social media = Status Game
I freaking love how easily Chris read Hamza. Make sure your convictions are true to who you actually are, not just what wave you’re on. But Hamza is still very young and has a lot of growth to do
Incredible podcast 🏆🎖️👍🏻
I remember seeing a video of Hamza talking about how important that carnivore diet was and that it was the perfect way of eating. He was a carnivore for no less than a week and told his audience to avoid all carbs and fibre. It was the most insane video Ive ever seen. A man to speak with such conviction on something he literally knows nothing about was insane to see lmao 😂 I know his done this with multiple different things in the past but for me the carnivore video was by far the worst thing I’ve ever seen
He's a super indecisive creator, a total hypocrite and deals in absolutes to his young fans who'll take it as gospel... The carnivore diet for example, if you don't do it you're a 'jeffery', it's all to build a 'us vs them' cult-like following (usually young kids as they are easily influenced)
You don't need much experience, it's common sense that the carnivore diet is an optimal diet by just observing nature and human history
He's an ENFJ, they can often be like that because Introverted Thinking is their Inferior Function
So most red pill
@@soulofexistence point me to one source that substantiates that claim...
This podcast has so much value, I realized I have lost my own sense of self because of consuming content.
I'm 16 years Old and I was over thinking every thing in my life.
Get back to meditation, it's so healing.
Pozdrawiam❤
why would you have this guy on Chris
he's had him on before as well
@@benstanleyfx Sara and Hamza, give more examples if it's LOAD OF PEOPLE. And maybe they are not useful for you but they can be useful for younger audience
He probably resonated with his old content like many others, during the video he gives constructive criticism to Hamza because he sees the potential in him to help his audience, I think Chris wanted to teach him how to be more authentic and self-aware to actually help young people
Modern podcasting is just a bunch of guys circlejerking each other for views.
@@dawnfmEnthusiast he wasnt so undisputably unhinged back then. So I wasnt unhappy about it, but now I think its a bad choice
As a young man, I was not expecting this conversation to have so many deep insights about personal identity and real success. Great conversation, Chris
Excellent podcast. Loved this conversation. Great to see more of Hamza’s humility
This episode has only been up for 15 minutes and people are already tearing it down.
Everyone has flaws, but to immediately bash an episode before watching it in its entirety is foolish.
Hate never comes from above as they say.
@Sam97-oi4vc I see your point, but you have to admit. It ridiculous for people to start basing a 2 hour podcast 20 minutes after it dropped before they even listened to the same thing.
@Sam97-oi4vc I agree with you. I disagree with a lot of Hamzas takes. But I also think he has a lot of value to give, hence why he’s got to where he’s gotten to.
Most of these comments have no reasoning behind the criticism.
So true. Social media has made this problem worse
Thank you chris for this podcast episode, it inspires me to be more grateful for my parents.
Chris I was really impressed with your wisdom on this one. Well done mate
Bruvv, this is the type of people I'd like to have around me. So much knowledge in thre air.
Chris you hit the nail on the head when telling Hamza to tread carefully with his conviction 1:01:50.
It seems mature people see through the ‘dealing in absolutes’, hence why Hamza’s audience is so young. They take everything as gospel and the constant flips on views when speaking so strongly on a topic just comes across as disingenuous
The ‘cult’ ‘us vs them’ approach is soley based on conviction, this is why he does it! That’s why people who see through this, call Hamza a scammer… Not saying personally that he is but it’s easy to lay that perspective. He looks like a hypocrite and open mindedness would go a long way with real men/women not just kids
This is why Chris is the goat, brings the nuance even if it doesn’t appeal to the agenda that does well…
Keep it up Chris… the new wave is chasing the ‘intellectual Chad’ not this 'red pill' open shirt cigar bullsh*t
Being someone who followed Hamza for a while and Now big fan of Chris, watching this episode. It is eye opening. Both of them are great people. Really Good job
Never heard about this podcast before, but i am really impressed by the life lesson chris gave Hamza in this. Very intelligent man and lots to learn from him. If Hamza really listened to what chris said and implements it this will improve his whole life a lot.
This is my first time watching one of Chris' videos, I've always seen him on Instagram and what not but never jumped on his podcasts until now. I didn't realise how much I needed to hear this, but I did, and I'm glad I did.
Only jumped on this video now because of a.. "breakup" I'm going through, and its my first. I thought, I was mentally mature enough to deal with this sort of thing, but it this experience has very harshly taught me that I'm no where near ready. It's been about a week now, and I keep telling myself I'm getting over it, mainly through telling myself she's over it and got over it so quickly, but I do know I'm really not over it, probably never will be. But what I took away from this podcast, I think, was acceptance and being able to move on.
I realise now how clingy I was being and possibly also ruined how we did end on good terms as a result of being so clingy, but I suppose now I need to move on, I need to really find myself and grow from whatever happened. I keep telling myself, I was fine before, I'll be fine now, but I realise that I'm only reading backwards by saying so. I need to learn, I need to read forward.
I still think it will take me some time to fully be okay since I am very introverted and just lock it all up inside me, but I think.. I will get there.
You'll get there. It takes time to process all of the emotions and thoughts about it. Life is different when someone you held onto falls away. So, give yourself the gift of time. You don't have to be okay right now, and that's okay. Be prepared for the stages of grief, because that's what happens with loss. It means you're a functioning human being, you're supposed to go through all of these things. You'll be fine, but it will take some time. How much time? Who knows. Be generous and compassionate to yourself, treat yourself as you would do a loved one. And try to be courageous and try vulnerability with people you trust. They'll help you through it.
Hamza took this really well. We gotta guide people to the right path just because he’s whole life on is display doesn’t mean he can’t make mistake yes maybe he should be more authentic but overall he’s a greatly greatly positive Influence on this generation of men. I didn’t meditate till hamza started talking about it and it has done too much for in my life and I’m forever grateful to him.
Chris: Putting in effort to do and be better doesn’t mean you’re being inauthentic; it just means you actively care. You’re being who you truly are when you truly care. This is why we so clearly notice and strongly dislike when people stop trying: it shows they no longer care.
Imagine listening to Hamza lmao
Yeah, getting sick of this guy now tbh
Why? What's wrong with him?
Listen to everyone. Then make up your mind after. Everyone has something to teach you. Maybe a lot. Maybe just one small thing. Everyone is wrong and everyone is right to different degrees…….
Have literally never heard of him
@@rocky_cutscene_era he got rich by making teenagers feel anxious about not making 10k a month
This conversation made me write a gratitude letter to my parents. Feels good
I watch every episode of this show on principle. Never heard of Hamza. Was enjoyable seeing this evolution of Chris’s ability to say uncomfortable things and be a much needed mentor. 👍
In short, the whole sigma male concept is bs. After a while being alone sucks.
I don't think you were a sigma from the start. Sigma male came into this world already sigma they don't get bored because that's just the way they are.
@@tristongraham6907 Not going to try to prove myself to you. But I’ve moved from red pill to listening to people like Adam Lane Smith. Done being a bachelor and I’m proposing in a month (I’m 43). I was avoidant with unrealistic expectations.
@Sam97-oi4vc I said I left rp and into secure attachment now. We’ll be good ❤️🙏🏼
As a wannabe popular creator, I have 15 Million + veiws on LinkedIn and Quora.
I know what the audience wnats to hear, it gets me veiws. But when I try truth, no one reads/likes/reacts or comments. As a content creator it is very hard to be authentic and make money.
Maybe Hamza only wanted to make money as a creator?
Maybe he never wanted to be a guide/guru who is also broke?
Which is why Hamza is listening seriously. Hamza knos the ideal path, but Chris has managed authenticity and popularity/success all at once.
Nice to hear Chris speak up and push back
Unexpectedly one of my favorite episodes. You are wise beyond your years Chris. Love how Hamza received your advice.
Really enjoyed this episode, just a big bro talking to his smaller bro. Beautiful
Chris... you handled this super well. Hamza needed to hear that
Chris’s therapy sessions are paying off in more ways than one. Great conversation.
I believe that most people in these comments got this video wrong. I don’t believe that Chris gave Hamza a beat down or unwanted lecture, I think that Hamza had a cry for help in this moment needing this conversation of not trying to be perfect. Hamza genuinely needs a good role model to look up to which Chris can be, as he has been in this industry for much longer and is more wise in the sense of being authentic and having integrity.
Never heard of Hamza before this podcast. One thing that struck me as fairly disturbing is the ~1200 followers who met with him in Vegas and the 13 yr old boy who said he doesnt fit in and so quit school since noone else understand his worldview and "life optimization strategy". How much of this damage is actually caused by Hamza and other online "lifestyle influencers" infecting the minds of our kids. This kid is going to grow up unable to engage with anyone who doesnt agree with his worldview which will likely result in a very lonely life. Basically the internet is rotting the minds of our kids.
On the one hand, I totally agree.
On the other hand, I used to be in his paid community and I know exactly who he's talking about.
At some point the kid is going to go through a socialization arc for sure, and he'll learn to adjust to people then.
To be fair, it's not all that different from my own story, except his influence was largely from an internet personality rather than his family.
Kid's only 13, he's got more than enough time to balance out his priorities, skills, and experiences.
When I was his age I was very similar, but for different reasons.
From 12-18 my life was completely consumed by school, sports, and the family business (restaurant).
At 18 I went to college, which meant less school, less sports, and less participation in the family business.
Since then, I've returned to the family business but I prioritize socialization and life balance a lot more than I did in my adolescence.
I've got faith in the kid.
He's got good people in his corner, his family especially, and will more than likely turn out alright.
I will say, however, that you're certainly onto something with how Hamza and other lifestyle influencers are infecting the minds of the youth.
How that affects each child will vary on a case-by-case basis, so it's more important than ever that we take care of our children and steward the youth of our communities!
The kid will outgrow it. I followed ridiculous online personalities at that age and they became gateways to more sensible people like Chris. He’ll be fine, he has so much time to figure it out.
Ohh you're so wrong. That kid (I assume, if he watches Hamza) has a growth mindset and he'll eventually see the truth about interacting with the world. And he'll probably be in a better place 10 years from now than the average guy.
It's just smart to take care of yourself. Looks and financially. Both genders are realizing this.
What a phenomenal podcast, I used to follow Hamza religiously and I didn’t even realize when I pivoted to Chris Williamson. Now seeing this podcast with Hamza, who I share a lot of views with was phenomenal because Chris was giving him (me) some great big brother advice.
chris giving hamza advice reminded me why hamza unfiltered was the best content hamza ever made. raw, uncut and full of authenticity. but the game is game i guess...
LOVE how honest this conversation is! ❤
This was such a great episode. It really helped me to realize that being as genuine as possible, as much as possible, is going to yield the best results in the future.
Are people actually taking this hamza guy seriously 😂😂😂😂
What’s your gross income last year before taxes ? I want to see whose advice has more credit, yours or his.
@@Cptn.Smokeryour name explains your attitude
@@julesbrunton1728For asking a question ?
@@julesbrunton1728I asked a pretty basic question. If that offended you, you should probably stay far away from the internet.
@@Cptn.Smoker you're confusing amusement with offence dude 🤣
im glad Chris isn't going easy on hamza. Chris gives a lot to learn.
I don’t see Hamza as a guru. I see hazmza as the guy next door who is also fan of the red pill space and who makes reasonable commentary on the trends in the red pill space.
Such a great episode. I have been following hamza's journey for quite some time now. I absolutely thought that him sitting down with you would make up a great conversation and one from which Hamza and all of us, as audiences can learn a lot from . Grateful for the work you do Chris.
Hamza took more than he deserved to here.
AND is an important word whenever judging things. Seemingly contradicting ideas can both be true at once.
Definitely some points here where he could have said, I've got to stop you there, or, repeated a statement back to him and said that's not quite the case because X, and this other part of what you're saying has some truth to it
first time iv seen hamza on a podcast were the host dont glaze the life out of him
If it wasn't for the Jeffery Adonis stuff I probably wouldn't of ever found personal development content, it's a double-edged sword for sure.
I loved listening to this podcast. I've been a fan of Hamza for some time, and this was the first time I felt a personal connection since I can relate to so many of the battles he still faces. We routing for you bro!
I like Hamza, his longer form videos have gotten me into sorting myself out and building something for myself, but he is actually quite dumb, and still a young lad. That said, he’s a good example of how you can still become very successful while being quite stupid, as long as you’re driven and have a purpose and do the work. You don’t need to be very smart or talented to succeed, actually. I think Hamza is a good example to follow to not hold yourself back, and just put the work in and go for what you want anyway.
Chris pointed out the very reason I stopped watching Hamza, yes he was the one to put me on self improvement but him not being real to himself just confused the young audiance about life.
Hamza has a fascinating character arc, and I'm excited to see what's next especially after such a seemingly formative conversation. I think the point regarding conforming to what is positively reinforced by the internet is something we will see more and more of. The pull between what will earn you virality vs. being authentic is tricky one to navigate especially in such formative years during your early twenties. Do you do what works or never establish the positive content feedback loop?
I'm surprised so many people default to negative regarding Hamza. I tend to think we are seeing a man who is a great communicator, understands what works online and someone who is finding themselves. I love that this turned into a coaching session as Chris has been through a similar transformation and has a lot to offer in terms of guidance. The 'coaching segment' is gold imo, but not many are willing to entertain the conversation that leads to it.
I'd love to know what the resource is in questions for introspection and journalling that Chris discussed.
Hamza does this weird thing where he laughs while telling a story, that’s usually putting someone else or another group down, while Chris doesn’t react to it at all.
It’s like that nervous bs laugh
I'm only an hour and 20 minutes in but wow, it's hard to believe but Hamza has the same struggles as most of the guys I know and me as well. This is so different than what I would have expected, he built an image of himself, a persona so disconnected, he doesn't he know who he is anymore saying things that he thinks his persona would say. Like from the legendary Shrek movie, peel all the layers and nothings there.
I hope he becomes more genuine and learns more this podcast to me this is very relatable holding up an image and trying to keep people happy. Also, thank you Chris many of the advice you've suggested I think will help me so much in my future relationships
One of the best episodes of a podcast I've ever watched! The kind of conversation that I'd like to have with my own friends, but getting to watch two people, operating at a high level in their own lives, have it between themselves. Genuinely good authentic conversation
I really really appreciate this one. Realest talk for young men seeking direction, I being one of them. Thank you
Wow, this conversation was extremely eye opening… great job
I have autism and it is nice to have a few close friends, isn't all a bad thing because I learned to handle the bad things and improve the good things about it. Autism is about devoting the most energy towards finding the most outside of the box and unique solution to a problem whilst neglecting the stupid obvious solutions right in front of you. I have the ability now to give up the most different approach in certain scenarios now and it feels good to have autism because I can still find the abstract things that others have trouble finding. Rather than performing at a decent rate all of the time, I perform at a below average rate whilst having vivid impulses of extremely good performance.
I came home from college on a Thursday once and failed at concentrating on any of my coursework. On the Friday and Saturday I would not do it and be guilty, but on Sunday I did 6 hours of work in the morning, completing a most of an assignment (probably a week of work). I am getting better at social skills now and I am realising that I am not that different from everyone else and the problems I have are not just autism related.
It think it is probably a good idea to live a better life than the 40-60% of (lets just call them) NPCs. By NPCs I mean people who are similar to eachother, have the same bad habits, biases and flaws in deeper intelligence. It is good to slowly expose the flaws in any biased aggression that they may have towards you, do this in a way that does not make them feel instantly threatened. It is good to combat the bad thing that somebody does to you rather than them the first time, but for the second time it is best to combat them.