How To Free Yourself From Screen Addiction - Dr K Healthy Gamer
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Dr. Alok Kanojia (Dr. K) is a psychiatrist, Harvard Medical School instructor, co-founder of HealthyGamerGG, Twitch streamer and a RUclipsr.
Humans face a predicament that has never been seen in our history, a massive overload in daily stimulation and information. The effect of constant exposure to social media, video games, and porn is not good, but thankfully there are a number of powerful ways to take back control of your attention.
Expect to learn the correlation between video game usage and mental health, why our brains are uniquely addicted to looking at screens, whether dopamine fasting is actually legit, the problem with watching porn at a young age, how to combat screen addiction, why some people always feel like they have brain fog, how to find meaning in your life and much more...
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00:00 Intro
02:04 What Society Misunderstands About Screen Addiction
14:47 Can You Be Addicted to Social Media?
25:39 Setting Healthy Boundaries with Gaming & Social Media
31:39 Humans Have Become Intolerant to Boredom
43:58 Learning From the Most Online Figures
56:25 Try Easy Before Trying Hard
1:01:07 Is There Evidence for Dopamine Fasting?
1:06:18 Why Porn Use is So Misunderstood
1:22:50 How Porn Impacts Brain Development
1:26:27 How Our Screens Are Affecting Sleep
1:30:12 Coping with Brain Fog
1:46:17 Finding Purpose in the Modern World
1:55:59 Where to Find Dr K
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So glad to finally get this episode done. Dr K is one of my most requested guests, he’s a beast. Enjoy! Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:04 What Society Misunderstands About Screen Addiction
14:47 Can You Be Addicted to Social Media?
25:39 Setting Healthy Boundaries with Gaming & Social Media
31:39 Why Nobody Should Take Their Phone to the Bathroom
43:58 Learning From Social Media High Performers
56:25 Helping People Who Constantly Lose
1:01:07 Is There Evidence for Dopamine Fasting?
1:06:18 Why Porn Use is So Misunderstood
1:22:50 How Porn Impacts Brain Development
1:26:27 Is Screen Time Detrimental to Sleep?
1:30:12 Explaining Brain Fog & How to Fix It
1:46:17 Is it Harder to Find Purpose in Today’s World?
1:55:59 Where to Find Dr K
1:11:22 Well that's weird because when I'm feeling worthless, the last thing I can be bothered with is an orgasm. In fact I just don't get horny at all. Porn and masturbation are the last thing I can be bothered with, in that mindset. I'd rather stare at a wall and think about all the mistakes I made today. lol
I look at porn, a lot, for the simple reason that I'm attracted to women and I like looking at them when I'm horny. Is it really any different to closing my eyes and looking at them in my head? Not in my opinion. In fact, using your imagination makes orgasm easier if anything. You can create a whole scenario.
I just like looking at pretty, naked women.
And frankly I don't see how there is anything wrong in that.
Great crossover. Thanks for having him on the show!
If you have him on again: an in-depth talk about dating dynamics would be really interesting.
I've decided to watch this episode everyday. Really motivated me to stay focused. Appreciate big bruh.
This is one of the most powerful podcasts I've seen in a bit, you really need to retitle this to something a bit more fitting for the topics agreed and discussed
i'm sorry but the audio from your end is weird. i've sensory issues so maybe its just me but theres a certain sharpness whenever youre speaking that i have to lower my volume to about a quarter for cause it just hurts my ears
Currently Watching a screen to show me how to stop watching screens.
Error, fatal error made in error, there is not error. Self reference circular definition identified.
Your not alone
*stop watching screens AS MUCH
I’m not going to stop watching videos and movies but we’re all probably doing it to a degree that’s not healthy or making us happy
Welcome to the future.
Welcome to the circle of life Simba
Thank you for the great conversation 💚
Dr. K. I need your help on how to limit screen time while watching you on a screen.
Thank you so much Dr K ❤
Too bad that healthygamer is a racist company as dr K complains about "too many white patients".
You’re a hero. Thanks mate
Nice! The Green Heart Chakra
So far I've listened to 237 podcasts about how to overcome my podcast addiction. I'm making real progress
I used to make fun of people who were addicted to staring at their phones, then somehow during Covid 19 I went from listening to music during work, to listening to podcasts, to watching the podcasts, to listening/watching/commenting simultaneously. I’ll get home from work, take my boots off, open up RUclips, and then somehow the entire evening disappears and I’m fucking pissed at myself for wasting so much of my time with my nose in my phone. I’m genuinely thinking of getting a flip phone at this point.
One of my favorite things to do is to just sit quietly in a room and watch it get darker as the sun sets. No screen, no lights, just dark and quiet. I used to do this as a kid 25-30 years ago. It’s very calming and because you’re focusing on the light changes in the room, it’s also very good with clearing the mind.
This sounds amazing
I think this tactic would be way better if you were sitting outside.
Chris Williamson is one hell of an interviewer and he keeps improving. This interview shows it again
He is in the elite tier of the podcast arena. Too many creators focus on lame drama - Chris is the opposite
no, he is just one another one interviewer.
Eh, it seems like he's not really listening and instead focusing on the next question he will ask. @1:32:42 He asks Dr. K what Brain fog is, when he had just said its a low-level inflammation in the brain. This interviewer needs to take more time to listen so he can ask more relevant questions.
@@XathurusI mean he’s human, we can’t expect him to be perfect but he does a really good job overall
@@Xathurus Agree, like when he asked about porn addiction out of nowhere without any words to change the subject I laughed out loud
The sheer amount of good Dr K must have done for society across all of his content is incalculable. Look forward to this one
Not just his content but his research and professional outreach too!
He is the internet’s surrogate father hahah
@@theowainwright7406 LOL
70 % of my phone use is looking How to stop it
Start starting at the wall for an hour..
Finding out that my two most listened to podcasts are collaborating was a really pleasant surprise. I think I speak for everyone here that we're really glad for this goldmind of an episode. Thank you Chris :)
This one's huge!
Me too 🎉
You’re goddamn right
I’ve been so hyped for this episode to drop! Big fan of you both 🔥
Oh man Cole u also follow both these guys. Awesome
Oh man cole when did you became a middle aged man, where's my eboy guitarist homie? Anyway didn't thought I'll see you here good to have you
Dr K is the goat of mental health and psychology on RUclips. I have watched lots of similar channels, each will have golden nuggets of knowledge once in a while, but I can confidently say I learn so much from each of his uploads.
💚
Agree!
I think that Dr. K is very good but if you've already done many therapies and read a lot of self-help, you might think that he does not go in-depth enough and might not learn anything new. I still watch his content sometimes because I'm curious to hear his particular stance on problems that I'm experiencing but I think that his main selling points are that he packages consistently good advice in a simple way and it's perfectly targeted for his audience.
@@nackedgrils9302 true I played videogames my whole life and only discovered him very recently. I have been down the same self improvement rabbit holes so a lot of it I already know and resonates w/ me. But undeniably this guy is great. Happy there is a niche space to merge excessive screen time and overall well being, lots of people do not realize how unhealthy their condition is.
Yeah, but the vast majority of people are not at this point, so this form is not just the best for his audience, it is what helps the most amount of people in general, who need an introductory level education, simple and accessible explanation, practical tools for various topics inside mental health and inner work. @@nackedgrils9302
As a Christian-- appreciated the note about the people who say "you didn't pray hard enough" as if spiritual help from God is something you have to work hard enough for.
Just taking notes while I’m super high, excuse me.
4:54 Community
11:55 overstimulation and anhedonia
14:30 “the story that you tell yourself about the things that you can do”
16:35 social media not always being a positive emotional experience
*I love Dr K’s ability to connect his thoughts and express himself so ficking eloquently
17:55 we all crave the approval of other human beings and now social media quantifies that
20:18 definition of addiction
21:50*hold up he’s actually talking about my diagnosisssss*
Compulsions and OCD
26:00 the interviewer asks how to set boundaries around social media, and Dr K phrases it as gaining control of your desires. Love ittt
We dont always need to try harder, "What we really need is just a tiny bit of help"
That hit.
53:02 "this isn't valuable, this is just difficult to get" that's absolute gold!
Basically everything ever sold at a live auction (the kind where people raise a hand to bid). Every "collectible" that's sold for more than original retail price.
50:40 , Chris you have a new quote to bring up with other guests.
"If you succeed and you made a sacrifice, it's very psychologically difficult to swallow that you didn't need to make the sacrifice in the first place" Dr.K
Mind blown, I just realised I absolutely align my 'wins' to things I went through difficulty/grind to achieve
100% the survivorship bias on success meaning sacrifice was deep
If I wasn't mindlessly scrolling I never would have found this episode.
How much of it did you watch?
As a gamer who's been following Dr. K's work for years, gotta admit I was not expecting this collab! Thank you ✨️
Now that you watch him, how many hours would you say you play a week?
@@cu11en76 not many compared to a few years ago. Probably max 8-10 now. Used to be more 30-40ish
Same here, now I don't feel like I'm missing anything out if I don't play a game, if I do decide to play it's after I've done all the hard tasks I have for the day and I'm more in control now thanks to Dr K's help
@@Akuiko thanks
This was pure gold. Felt like I had to pull out my phone to take notes every 5 minutes for the whole 2 hours. Thanks guys, incredible stuff.
I love your ability to ask questions during these interviews in a way that's actually helpful to your audience. For example, when you directly asked Dr K "What does someone who wants to improve their gut microbiome need to eat?", that was the exact same thought I had in my mind; and this is just one example of the many questions you asked Dr K during your chat. It shows that 1. you are actually actively listening to him and trying to process his thoughts and comments during the interview and 2. you try to put yourself in the mind of your average viewer and ask questions to your guests in a way that will benefit your audience and answer their burning questions that they're unable to ask as they sit and watch you behind the screen. Your ability to synthesis + summarise your guest's words shortly after they've answered and your ability to ask them such useful questions is the main reason I love your podcasts. Keep it up Chris!
Dr. K and Healthy Gamer are such a game changer in the mental health space. My life was changed by them. I wish them the utmost success.
Jup, he also showed me what a therapist actually should be like, i only ever had bad ones😊
@@nolandderlugner1351 does mobile phone really fcuk with our mind ?
13:16 My guess is "tilting" comes from old-schoold pinball machines. You could shake the machine a little bit to influence where the ball went but if you moved it too much the sensors would detect a "tilt" and end the game. In fits of frustration a player might shake the machine too much and cause it to tilt, which is where the term tilting probably came to mean getting wigged out at a video game.
Dr K - probably one of the most important content creators on the planet.
“Humans have become intolerant to boredom”.
How profound an observation.
And great advice too - “give yourselves a small dose of boredom”.
Taking this to the bank
this sounds so hyperbolic but to be honest, right now in our current culture I think this is accurate.
Something that's recently occurred to me, and you two are onto it, but we've become so results oriented to the detriment of the process. We need to appreciate the journey as much as the destination. Good podcast, fellas. Thanks for sharing.
"The man who loves walking will walk further than the man who loves the destination."
@@WanderTheNomad that's kinda the entire idea behind buddhism/hinduism/stoicism lol
This is a gold mine. I love all of the things you guys talked about in this video and I'm gonna listen to this again in the future because it's just THAT valueble. This is awesome u guys!
I really hope that a lot of people listen to this! in 5 years time could be one of most played episode of your channel Chris
As a recovering addict, thank you so much for this episode. I'm going to follow Dr K and dive deeper. I'm a PEER Recovery Support Specialist in training and this is right on topic. Thank you for your time and valuable content. Have a blessed day. Say no to Heroin ❤️
Hey if you’re interested in stuff pertaining to addiction, I’d recommend checking out his two recent streams on addictions and trauma. From there, I’d highly recommend listening to the interviews from like three years ago on the channel. The interviews are the real money because we see the origins of traumas and how to cope with those emotions in real time.
For example; I really loved “how to process trauma with CocoB” and “Dealing with a narcissistic father” or something like that
Good on kicking heroin, I can't seem to stop pharmacy Xanax. I went to rehab for and was sober for two months.. 5 years ago. Withdrawals kick my ass and I just don't have the willpower to dig deep and stop, I'm a productive dude, make enough to live. I hate society though, I love people though. I'm fascinated by the utter brutality of mankind, the more I find out, the more I hate.
Good luck wish you were
@@TheXandemic Work out a plan with a medical professional who cares, you will burn out by powering through benzo withdrawals. The problems of the world is too much for one person to take on, don't dig yourself too much into that hole. There's shitty humans and there's awesome and loving humans, that duality will always be there, you get to chose how YOU act and WHO you surround yourself with, not what people do. Much love!
@@erikarnesen6052 I'm gonna have to find some free health care.
Probably your best episode yet (in my opinion). Thank you for all the priceless information Chris!
48:30 the "survivorship bias" factor in evaluating peoples' careers is real, and yes, it needs a catchy name. I think part of what you're getting at is that the people who are broken by the training/selection process are usually overlooked when looking at the successful outcomes (of those who get through ok). We need to ALSO remember though, that some of the most interesting successful people went through many failures along the way, until finally stumbling into something that turned out better. The best measure of life success may be in how well people can recover (and learn) from failure and keep trying. The corollary is that failing should not be seen as very important unless it is has permanent consequences. (To be fair, we also lack good information on how many people go from failure to even worse loss, despair and possibly total collapse. There are good reasons that people usually try to avoid failure.)
The discussion somehow put me in mind of politicians in a filibuster debate. He (or she) who can hold their bladder the longest (and stay awake?) can win the vote, by timing it for when enough people on the other side have left the room... What makes for being successful can turn out to be weirdly trivial stuff.
Great interview with a light and comic tone!
I didnt know Chris' channel and I was positively surprised with your curiosity and good questions!
Thanks for having Dr. K and helping him to walk through his knowledge and provide to the community =D
I’ve been waiting for a conversation with you two forever, I knew it would happen one day. Glad to see it finally happen!
Was so excited for this one and Chris did not disappoint! A great interviewer through and through
It's interesting to me that science is just now backing up what all the major world religions have been preaching for thousands of years. Guard your mind and your heart because it's very easy to take it. As a Christian, I've been reading scriptures about meditation and self-awareness for years now and immediately understood what Dr. K was getting at.
Yup, we have been lacking a form a spirituality in the western world. Hope this turns things around. I believe people are making a switch now
It's interesting listening to this episode because it's so obvious that Dr. K is super comfortable talking to a lot of people all day about these topics. He is so good at condensing the information into an easy to understand state verses some of there other PHDs or scientists who've been on here who can go on for a long time without having much of a change in energy or tone of voice. Maybe it's part of why Dr. K is successful is how energetic he is but this conversation really flowed well with a lot of questions without feeling rushed at any point. just really interesting overall and probably one of your best episodes. Should be included on a greatest hits album.
This ^
Another great interview. Love your questions and guest today. I thought the reframing on how "just because it's difficult doesn't make it meaningful" was awesome. The example about college and studying is also backed by another professor's video I saw (I think he was from Standford) who like 8 years ago shared that studying "harder" isn't necessarily helpful. Studying shorter, more effectively, works better and that could feel "easier".
The recontextualization of how social media and p*rn are "compulsive" addictions also makes sense. I also come up with great ideas while showering, that's how I plan my day and life lol thought I was special.
I love Dr K he has been a gift to humanity
Man, I wasn't expecting Dr. K to become a guest here, but I am so happy. Good stuff, great episode.
Yes! LOVE that Dr. K went on this podcast! So hyped for this episode!
This is like two separate worlds coming together. I’m so excited for this conversation.
This conversation is a gem and is so insightful with practical tips to win against the billion dollar products meant to keep us awake and mess up our lifestyles. Thank you both!❤
Good episode, thank you for this. This made me realise that I've definitely been on screens for way too many hours each day. When I reflect upon my motivation levels for real life, they have definitely dropped in comparison to how I was a few years ago. I've just set up a plan for a daily limit of screen time starting tomorrow and will replace that time with more productive activities and allocate a few moments throughout the day to 'boredom training' too.
How's this going??
@@blairthompson6227 going pretty well so far :) reading and exercising a bit more, focusing on creating more than consuming. Still slip into the occasional 'where did the time go' amount of mindless scrolling some days but better overall.
Thank you! This was a great discussion. I'm struggling to have less screen time,and I feel like I'm slowing down with my goals. But it's not video games, it's social media and you tube 😄
Worlds colliding! I love this. You two work well together. I needed this
thank you for doing what you do! this has been one of my favorite podcasts 👏🏾
Finally connecting all the dots. Just need to find a poop donor to fix life long issues no one has been able to resolve completely for me yet. . You both are another level podcast. I got here from The Diary of a CEO podcast... and 2h of screen time just flew by. Thank you so much, Chris and Dr. K! 💯
I love Dr. K! I found him two years ago and completely changed the trajectory of my life.
Absolutely great podcast!
I'm gonna have to watch it again later to write down some of the amazingly profound quotes that were said here.
One of your best episodes, love both your guys' content so this interview was a treat!
The thing I liked about this guy when I first saw him a few months back, was he seemed to grok the condition of gamers. Not accusing them of being violent mass shooters, or lonely incels, but working to understand and communicate that understanding to the suffering and raise them up.
He’s on point. I may not always like how on point he is, but it’s the truth.
I never expected these two to link up for some reason. Sweet!
I’ve managed to eliminate pretty much every bad habit I’ve had. Porn, staying up late watching RUclips, video games, social media and so on. I still struggle with RUclips addiction though. There’s so many better things I could be doing with my time instead of sitting on my phone watching RUclips for 6-8 hours a day.
Yes you can have loads of other things you could be doing but remember that eradicating everything isn’t the answer unless you have a health addiction to replace it with. Don’t view every pass time as a negative thing as well.
I think 2 to 4 hours of intentionally planning to do something feels much better than 6 to 8 hours of just happening to do it when you have free time
Yeah I agree, it's like my brain has labelled RUclips as this healthy thing that couldn't possibly harm me but I end up binge watching it for hours upon hours on end and lose my sense of time
Read doctor Gabor Mate to learn more on what your mind/body/soul is actually looking for
If the funds allow, I'd heavily suggest RUclips premium purely for the background play - I'm heavily RUclips addicted as well, but being able to shut my phone off and have these videos play in the background allows me to do the things I need to do that day without getting sucked in
"Crowd sourcing your sense of self-worth to the world around you is a sure fire way to be miserable."
This is going to stick with me for the rest of my life.
At the same time it’s impossible to create intrinsic self worth without social connections. It’s a fine line to navigate by choosing quality friends who give you positive reinforcement
Not a gamer, but have been a big fan of Healthy Gamer for quite some time. Cool to see this!
One of your best interviews! Thank you!
The portion about something being difficult, and something being valuable, and how those don’t always match up; will stick w me forever
Thank you for helping everyone learn so much. I can see the benefits of being a podcaster
Have been waiting for Dr K forever!
oh hell yeah! best collab, good to see Dr.K expanding to different people other than twitch, I really want Huberman Labs and him to collab too! I love this!
Man I should have subscribed several podcasts back. Great job Chris!
Chris is becoming one of the best podcast on this website
I don't if you ever read these commets but I hope you do so I'll say it again. "Best podcast on RUclips." The right questions, the right guests,the amount of information you learn, quite astonishing.
"Don't try hard, try easy" is mindblowing.
Dr. k is a genius. His advice is life changing. I wish other psychiatrists were like him.❤
I would die to have the luck of speaking with Dr K, he's so incredibly insightful and has already helped me so much for over a year without ever interacting with me
43:58 This segment is so key and super insightful. Well done! 👏
came here for the screen addiction part but got so much more out of this. nice content
So much amazing stuff in this episode. What a great conversation. ☮️
This ones gonna be massive Chris! ❤
The statement Dr K made about how if people made huge sacrifices value whatever it is more, gave me chills. I know that I read very fast and I learned a long time ago not to tell people (particularly my students) just how fast. People either don't believe me, insist I must not read well, or get resentful and mad. To me, it's not a big deal, it's just what I do.
How do you do it?
The perfect collab idea, great job Chris.
Great episode and love the longer format. More of those please @Chris
Main takeaway... Be with the poop 💩!
Thanks Chris and Dr. K., appreciate both your channels and ongoing work. 😊
55:00 woah... This hit me hard. I now wonder what I got myself into, because his words are true:
Ignorance is suffering. Can you try easy? There is almost always a way that makes it all easy once you learned it. "Succeed or give up" is toxic, because it states that when you fail, you gave up. You did not try "hard" enough. *But what´s really going on:*
You try hard on the wrong things out of ignorance - and thus end in suffering.
Great episode!!!!
There's no shame in trying things that don't work and giving them up. It's stupid to think you need to follow everything through to the end no matter how ill-advised or how wrong it feels otherwise you are a "quitter"
Yes!! So excited for this episode! Both so brilliant
What a brilliant conversation. Thank you!
Ever since Dr. K had his stream with Destiny I've been waiting for this video to drop!!
The same! Dr. K. for President! 🤣
@@MinifigNewsguydr K is far too sane and rational to want to run for president
1:22:39 I’m a registered nurse not a psychiatrist but yes to this!! They don’t teach you in nursing school how to mentally deal with verbal and physical assault. And learning those tools makes all the difference in being able to cope at your job!
I needed to hear this!
Thank you both!!
Excellent episode, I follow you both and was very excited to see this episode. Certainly did not disappoint!
Stay awesome ❤
i am not a gamer, but i am addicted to youtube videos . I am concerned now that my addiction to listening to youtube influencers and experts is making my brain dissatisfied with socializing with humans IRL.
I bloody loved this podcast episode. I just made a video about deleting social media and how my mind is SO much more important than all of these companies. Focus and attention is a rare and valuable skill in this modern world, if you can practice boredom and truly learn to be with yourself, and put your mind towards something meaningful and valuable , damn..... I believe you will create magic.
Amazing. Two of my fav people talking about some of my favorite subjects. 😊
Very interesting. Thank you both for doing this!
Ads feed into the addiction. They compell me to pull out my phone, engage to skip, and feel instant extremely temporary relief
I've find ads help me to stop scrolling on social media. I dislike ads, so if I see them, I feel more inclined to stop scrolling. I use them as a clean stopping point.
I’m currently doing my masters of clinical psychology and writing a systematic review of the relationship between basic psychological needs and internet gaming disorder symptoms. It’s a very interesting topic that I think could help inform risk, prevention, diagnostics, and treatment for IGD in the future
I feel quite emotional after watching that; I wrestle with 'what's the point?' I've seen society change since the 60's and it's not all for the best.
thanks ... David
This actually is helpful. Thank you for this conversation.
This is like THE ultimate podcast
I was just done watching another Dr K video. I love this man.
Around the 53 minute mark where they speak on the bias of difficulty, was so deeply enriching.
That which is valuable doesn’t need to be gained by great difficulty.
brilliant podcast thankyou Chris!
So weird seeing these two together when I love both their work separately so much.
Love this collab
I like that you cut to the chase right at the beginning of the interview without wasting time for intro and small talk.
You guys have great conversations about very current topics. SO great!! 🎉🎉
Tilting is not the yips. Tilting is playing bad because you are upset (usually from something that happened in the game). The yips is just for some reason on that day you fail to do things that otherwise are so easy. The yips could cause you to tilt.
"You have trained your muscles to run a marathon, but have you trained your brain to stare at a wall for an hour?" What a brilliant way of putting it
That was incredible Chris
The human brain is not designed to take criticism from millions of people. Nice. And yes the negative comments hit the hardest 🔥
Now we all can get the celebrity treatment but without any of the perks!
It doesn't even have to be millions. It can be just 100, and it will feel like a million. Or it can be 5 or 10 that has tens, hundreds, or thousands of likes.