HDHomeRun FLEX 4K & PLEX DVR
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2022
- HDHomeRun FLEX & PLEX - the perfect pair?
AV Nirvana's Travis Ballstadt runs us through installing an HDHomeRun FLEX 4K tuner and configuring it in PLEX as a DVR.
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I just purchased the Flex 4K model and it's so tiny and light but works great. I was using the Extend model and that was built like a tank. It was heavy aluminum with fins for cooling. It also worked fine but I just wanted to upgrade to ATSC 3.0.
Anyway, the new Flex 4K works as advertised on my Macs, Nvidia Shield, Roku, Fire TV Cube and Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. No problems and good reception using a roof-mounted antenna in Queens, NYC. It scanned 139 channels although I didn't test all of them, but the ones I tested worked fine. I didn't test recording because I don't need it. I'm satisfied with it. When I installed the HDHomerun app on my Mac, the firmware on the Flex 4K was upgraded and every device on my network worked fine. That's it. A simple and easy upgrade if you want it.
Best part of the hdhome run for me is that it is Ethernet... I lives in my closet at the base of the tower, Connected to my switch that has cameras ham radio stuff etc,,, Then backhaul it on fiber to my main switch,,, Instant lightning and surge isolation,,,
Super helpful, thank you!
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what area do you live in i noticed you get the Charge and Comet Stations in my area they changed the channels on me and i dont know how i can get a better Signal becasue i get it sometimes but sometimes not i have it pointed in the right direction but stil it loses the signal on those channels can you please give me any idea what do do
KOMO 4.... Seattle? Planning to setup in Tacoma rn 😂.... What antenna are you using? Do you think an indoor one will just trying to get the major 4 for sports. Also building a theater. Subbed.
I have a Clearstream 2V on the roof near the Fauntleroy Ferry landing in West Seattle and I get pretty much everything. Not sure what luck you’d have with the various transponders from Tacoma, just make sure you get an antenna with both UHF and VHF capabilities. amzn.to/3YprFwo
Thanks for the video! I literally just learned that you can use an antenna / tuner with plex less then an hour ago and I'm very interested in it. I do however have a question, I have a plex media server set up and my family uses it as well for movies and what not. If i did this would they be able to view the live TV like they do the media server? (Meaning they have their own accounts and I have granted them library access) Or is it only available to my account?
I believe if they have direct logins to the PLEX account they are able to view liveTV. You cannot share access to LiveTV with other PLEX users like you can with your libraries.
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Thanks that answers my question!
Hey there!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the HDHomeRun Flex 4K device and how you've integrated it with Plex. It's great to hear that you've had a positive experience with the HDHomeRun devices and that they've been rock solid for you.
I appreciate the detailed walkthrough of the setup process, including the connections and the configuration in Plex. It's unfortunate to hear that Plex isn't yet compatible with ATSC 3.0 channels, but it's good to know that you found a workaround by not adding those channels.
I haven't used the HDHomeRun devices myself, but your video has certainly provided valuable insights for anyone looking to set up a similar system. It's always helpful to see real-world experiences and tips from fellow users.
As for ATSC 3.0 compatibility, it's interesting to hear that you're prepared for it, even though it's not widely available yet in your area. Being future-proofed for technology changes is a smart move.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights, and I hope your setup continues to work well for you. Looking forward to more content from you in the future!
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Have you experimented with the Channels app with HD HomeRun 4K? Unless I'm mistaken, the Plex guide is not able to integrate local channels for those of us who are trying to use antenna for local channels in conjunction with streaming apps like You Tube TV, Dish, DirecTV stream, et al. Is Channels DVR any better at this than Plex?
I've not messed with Channels. While the PLEX app doesn't yet work with ATSC3.0 signals, our broadcasters here aren't utilizing them for anything above a general simulcast - there's no 4K content being broadcast, not even Olympics or Super Bowl - so I haven't bothered to test the other options. I use PLEX primarily as a movie server for content not available in Kaleidescape, and the DVR is used sparingly, so I haven't prioritized it. I may look into doing a video on the Channels DVR app if I have time this spring.
@@av_nirvana Thank you for the note. What type of line amplifier have you used successfully to increase the strength of your antenna signal?
I’m using this item, just to avoid loss at the split for the two tuners, living room and bedroom direct feeds. amzn.to/3KbWrD1
Do you have to select each tuner individually, or do they both show up as one tuner in the guide? When you record does it make you pick which tuner or does it just select an open tuner?
Once you’ve connected the tuners to PLEX you can forget they’re there. PLEX presents the guide, and selects from available tuners.
@AV NIRVANA OK. Thank you. I already bought 1 duo. Was going to by a second because it is already getting conflicts with just 2 tuners. I should have bought the 4 but was too cheap for just trying it out. Thank you for your help. I really appreciate it.
I would love to do this, but I don't have the ability to put an outdoor antenna up. When I try a indoor antenna, it only picks up my local Fox and CBS, not my ABC and NBC
@hemiram2k5 I'm running a cheap indoor/outdoor antenna from in my basement. It all has to do with placement. Took me a while to get the best signal. Might want to check the broadcast sites to see where the signal is coming from and what the range is. That should help with what antenna to try. That's just my opinion.
Thanks! Nice video. I live down in the Salem, OR area. Picking up the Nextgen broadcasts out of Portland with the Flex 4K. I had the same experience you did trying to remap the channels in Plex. The Flex 4k is a big improvement over the PCI tuner card I've been using. I set up the Flex 4k with an SSD drive using the HDHomerun app. I am playing it thru my Roku ultra and it seems to be working fine. I've been using Plex off and on for years, mostly for my home media library. I'm at the point now where I don't really want to spend much more money on hardware or mess with a mediaserver anymore.
Thanks Randy, glad it was helpful! I'm just working to get a cousin in Portland set up with an HDHR tuner and PLEX.
Figured this out. Plex will only map a channel once. You have to uncheck the lower HD channel and then enable the HEVC channel with the lower guide channel. It kinda sucks because now you don't have separate channels in the guide and when you tune to 22.1, you're actually tuning to 122.1 on the HDHomeRun. If you look at the tuner summary on the HDHomeRun, i was surprised to find that. The problem still is the audio. There's no audio on any of the ATSC3.0 channels on any of my devices via Plex.
@@xxxtreem11 From what I've read, the issue is in the ffmpeg library used by Plex. That library doesn't support AC-4 audio (yet). Until it does, Plex isn't going to work with ATSC 3.0. For some reason, ATSC 3.0 went with a licensed audio codec which makes it very difficult for open source software, which Plex relies on, to support. There are going to be more issues as broadcasters enable DRM in their signals. The HDHR software still can't handle ATSC 3.0 DRM, but it is getting closer.
@@StuffOfInterest Any updates? Is it working now?
@@NoahZimmerman No. Best place to track progress is on Silicon Dust's ATSC 3.0 forum.
The IP addresses you covered up, are private IPs(technical term) meaning they can’t be used over the internet, they only work at home(inside the network they are issued). Those same numbers go to different devices in everybody’s else home. Otherwise good video.
That's only partially true. You should be able to access via NAT / port forwarding on your local router.
@@Mackeroney You are talking about something different. Again Private IPs can not be used over the Internet they are not routable.
Would be nice to see how show series are listed after recording. Will keep looking.
They appear in your PLEX library just like every other tv show regardless of if it was recorded or ripped from a disc or downloaded.
Been using the tuner a while and dvr,, I just figured out you can switch between several viewed options and I dont care for the default. You can view as folders which what I wanted, each series in a folder. Also I setup limits for how many episodes or how many days to keep..
Do you have to pay for hd homerun TV guide to use in Plex? Do you have to buy Plex to use the eve and TV guide?
The PLEX DVR functionality is only available with a PLEX Pass, so you need either a monthly subscription or a lifetime purchase, but that includes the guide information.
I have the Connect quatro, is it worth upgrading to the Flex quattro in terms of signal strength and stability?
I haven't noticed any signal strength differences between my Connect 2 Duo and the Flex 4K.
I can't compare it to the quatro but I recently installed the Flex 4K and signal sensitivity was my primary concern. I can report that it's signal sensitivity is equal to any of my Samsung TV's. I recieve a few very weak channels and it picks them up just as well as my TV's. Very satisfied with it.
can you map a channel to a specific tuner statically or does every user trying to connect to OTA tv need their own tuner even if watching the same channel?
I wish I had a prize for the best question. I had to test and, at least within PLEX, each playback device uses its own tuner, due to the buffer required for DVR pause/ff/rewind capability.
@av_nirvana That's disappointing. It's too bad there isn't an option like that. It would be so much more efficient if there was that ability.
Hi Travis.....I just installed my HD HomeRun 4K Flex and it is working well. However, I'm having trouble adding adding additional channels in Plex after I upgraded my antenna. The original antenna had 25 OTA channels and the new channel adding 10 additional channels for a total of 35. All 35 channels show up and work on the HDHR, but when I log into the Plex dashboard, all 35 channels show, but only the first 25 are checked. When I try to add the additional channels along with the mapping instructions, the changes will not save in Plex. I installed Plex on my Synology NAS (also new), so I was considering if I should uninstall Plex and reinstall it on my Synology or if you might have a different suggestion.
Are the channels that aren't checked listed in the 1xx channel range? Those are the ATSC3.0 channels that the HDHR is seeing, but Plex can't handle.
@@av_nirvana No, they are channels 7.7 to 7.12 and 18.1 to 18.4. None of those channels were auto mapped, but I don't know that that is significant.
If you open the HDHomeRun app do they appear?
@@av_nirvana Yes, they do appear in the HDHR app. Just an update on what I've done. I uninstalled the HDHR app on my Synology NAS, powered down the NAS and restarted it. Then I reinstalled the HDHR app on my Synology NAS and linked it to Plex. I then went back to the PLEX app on my laptop to see if that made a difference in the enabled channels.....no change. I then rescanned the channel list in the Plex app on my laptop.....no change. I tried to enable the additional channels.....no change. I then removed the DVR from the Plex app and then reinstalled it. Rescanned the channels and this time had 4 of the previously unchecked/unmapped channels were automatically checked and ENABLED. I still have a few channels that I would like to enable, but it appears that there is some type of restriction/block that prevents the adding of channels that do not automatically populate with a check and the associated mapping. Do you have any thoughts about how I can get the additional channels to add manuallly?
I’m stumped.
its safe to hook up and indoor amplified antenna?
Yes 100%
If my tv has a built in 3.0 tuner...do I still need then hd home run tuner
Not at all. The HDHomeRun tuners and their counterparts are intended more as a device to add tuners to PC-based media centers or to distribute TV signals through a home network. If your TV has a good tuner and you don’t want to record or split the signal to more displays, mobile phones, etc, you’re good to go.
not sure if it is true 4k I think it is just upscaled the ATSC 3.0 channels dont seem improved much, I kept switching back and forth to my TV's regular non atsc 1.0 and the hdhommerun ATSC 3.0 channels I use the firestick 4k and my samsung TV always says 3840 x 2160 no matter what channel, the 3.0 or the regular lower channels, I am using a 2017 Samsung 4K tv
Actual 4k broadcast content is extremely rare. Some markets have put special events like the Super Bowl or the Olympics in 4K, but 99% of what you're seeing is simply a simulcast of the 1080p/720p content that's on the primary channel.
What's happening is the app you're using (HD Home Run or PLEX or whatever) is upconverting everything to 3840x2160 and sending that signal to your TV.
The biggest difference I've noticed between the ATSC 1.0 and 3.0 channels is audio quality. The sound is typically "bigger" on the 3.0 channels - not sure if it's actually a more robust signal or if it's post-processing that's happening somewhere and it's not as accurate as the 1.0 signal.
Somewhere I had the idea that since I had 4 tuners available in my HdHomeRun that Plex could record 2 channels at the same time. Apparently that's not true since you installed a second Tuner device. I'm also guessing it's not possible to install the SAME HdHomeRun as 2 separate tuners because they have the same MAC? Are my assumptions correct? To do 2 recordings at the same time I will need 2 physical tuners, correct?
PLEX can record on all four tuners simultaneously, or more, if your computer is capable. PLEX will see whatever number of tuners you have available, so if you install a Flex4K it will see it as a single device, but four tuners. I wanted more than two tuners because I have been recoding a lot of syndicated shows to archive without buying discs - Frasier, Happy Days, WKRP, etc. there were times when it needed more than two tuners to record everything scheduled, especially if you want to start recording a minute early, etc.
So basically a single device will be seen as multiple tuners within PLEX.
@@av_nirvana Great!! That's what I originally thought. Thank you for confirming that. For some odd reason if I schedule 2 shows at the same time, only one will record, I guess something else is wrong. I'm running it on a new QNAP NAS that specifically supports PLEX, however, the PLEX in their app store was pretty old so I downloaded the most recent version from PLEX and install it manually. Perhaps that's the issue. Thank you.
@@RickPaquin Let us know if you figure out the root of your problem!
I did a test last night and set up 3 programs on different channels to record at the same time just using the default record settings. All three recorded fine. But the other day I tried recording 3 back to back episodes of a program and it only recorded the first 2 and the 3rd was a different program I had scheduled previously. And I've had many other occasions where it simple doesn't record all designated programs, just some. It may be my advanced settings. I know I set up several as "delete episodes after playing" and they disappeared after they recorded, so I don't use that setting anymore. It may be some of the advanced settings I'm just not using right. I'll try to narrow this down and report back.
@@RickPaquin Odd. I've not had any issues like that.
Just got me interested in cordcutting. Can IPTV services work with HDHomerun?
IPTV sources generally plug directly into PLEX, no HDHR tuner required. The HDHR boxes are for tuning in OTA channels, and they have a model that is compatible with Cablecard tuning as well, but IPTV runs directly to PLEX.
@@av_nirvana thank you so much. So PLEX had the capability to enter those xstream codes URL and others also use m3u urls.
Actually, looking a little deeper it seems PLEX may have removed IPTV capabilities, though there are virtual tuner apps that can disguise the IPTV streams as a traditional channel that PLEX will see. So you might need to do a little research. But the original answer stands, that HDHR won't work with IPTV channels.
Thanks for the Informative video! Can you give me a direct answer? I am using a plex server on a NAS. When I set this up, do I need to pay extra for RECORDING SHOWS? I can't seem to get a direct answer to this question.
Thank you.
DVR functionality requires a PLEX Pass. If you haven't purchased the lifetime PLEX Pass, it's a bargain, especially when it goes on sale occasionally. You can also get it on a monthly subscription if you just want to try it out.
@@av_nirvana Thank you! I've had a Plex Pass for YEARS. That is the answer I needed, Again THANK YOU!
@@davidstokes5481 You'll like it. Been using an older one for 4 years now. Sporting events look top notch with so little compression. Plex is still doing an excellent job.
Does the Flex 4K come with any free HDHomerun DVR service timeline? Would like to try before buy. PLEX is working well with it and my 2021 LG QLED has issues with ATSC 3.0 tuner
I don’t know if they do or not, and didn’t see any mention on their site. You should probably reach out to them directly to inquire. Let us know what you find out!
Just checking in...I thought Phila would have NextGen channels by now....I'll keep with my 4 year old 1.0 HDHomerun Quatro until they do. I was a Plex lifetime before I ever went to OTA . Maybe 7 or 8 years now. I use my OTA about 6 moths a year. For football season I sub to RUclips TV. I never really saved much money cutting the cord. I just got tired of not being able to watch my streams on any and all devices.
Even if they do turn on NextGen channels, the content will more than likely be simply a simulcast of the content you're already receiving with no improved quality. That's how it is here in Seattle. If I didn't need more tuners than my Duo, I wouldn't have upgraded for the ATSC 3.0 capability.
What if I don't own a Plex server, but just bought an HDHomeRun Flex 4K. What are my options to record?
You can run PLEX server on a very basic Mac or pc, or you can run it on an Nvidia Shield. Or there’s the HD HomeRun app which can be the head end for a DVR if you connect a hard drive to the tuner. There’s Emby, Jellyfin and Channels DVR. Several options available.
I Believe you can a drive to the hdhomerun and record directly to it...
New subscriber here. I have an older Plex server on a Windows PC in my home network. I might actually go with a NAS with Plex on it. But the subscription I have been paying for and not using is no longer good. I have to go to the Plex site to see if I can get this going. My streaming cable company has recently started charging $40/mo for local broadcast channels. So I am thinking of moving to Plex with my HDHR for my 60+ channels I can get with my antenna. Any advice from my long note? Thanks
Not sure why the subscription would no longer be valid. But if you’re not able to get them to fix that issue I might consider Emby or Channels as DVR. I believe they are both able to take advantage of the ATSC3 broadcasts, so you’d be moving forward into a system that is ready when they start broadcasting higher quality content. I’ve used Emby in the past and it was also pretty slick, I just ended up preferring the PLEX app over Emby on the playback devices. You can also use both at the same time and only pay for DVR option on one, and use the other for organization and playback without requiring the full license.
@@av_nirvana Emby? Not heard of that one. I have heard of channels. Thanks for your reply.
Emby is very similar to PLEX. When I was first setting up my server I played around quite extensively with both of them and they're both solid. I ended up choosing PLEX for the app interface, but admittedly haven't played with Emby for awhile.
How do you watch a recorded DVR show? I can't figure it out for the life of me and everybody skips that part.
Since I’m using PLEX as my DVR and library, recorded shows are added to the library and I watch just like any other show I’ve ripped from the discs and imported. Not sure how if you’re using the HDHomeRun app.
So I can use this, and all my tvs can get antenna TV.?
Yes, but you’ll need a distribution method. This is tuners only, I’m demonstrating how to configure in PLEX and PLEX makes it available in the app on any device. There is an HD HomeRun app that will pull this to devices on your network as well, but it’s not as full-featured as a plex-type solution.
@@av_nirvana gotcha, thanks for the info.
DId you try with cable programming?
Nope. Haven’t had cable or satellite in 15 years.
@@av_nirvana Thanks for answer and btw, how many users can be connected at the same time if I use plex pass?
Pretty sure it's as many as your server can handle. You can throttle bandwidth and limit concurrent streams in the control panel, but I don't think PLEX puts a limit on it, only your hardware. As for the HDHomeRun, only one user per tuner, even if they're all watching the same channel.
Can I set this up with my smart smartphone
Yes, you can. In fact, the app in this video is actually the HD Homerun iPad app installed on a Mac.
I read sound doesn't work on 4k channels in Plex now, is that true?
That is true. PLEX claims to be waiting on some approval from Dolby or something. But let’s face it, 99% of what is being aired on the ATSC3 channels right now is nothing different than the ATSC1 content. It will be nice when they figure it out but until then, if there actually IS something being broadcast in 4k, I can just use the free HDHR app, or use the Emby DVR since I also have that license.
@@av_nirvana thanks i don't have the HDHR yet but saw people complaining after i ordered it
It’s annoying, but not a problem. The tuner still receives the ATSC1 channels as well as ATSC3 so it still works just fine with PLEX until PLEX finally gets the audio up and running.
If you are recording a show with Plex, and the antenna signal degrades at any time during the recording - will it STOP the recording of that show? Or will it continue recording - just showing a blank or pixelated screen - until it can recover? If I'm recording a 30 minute show, then it should keep recording for the full 30 minutes... and not just stop attempting to process the signal if the signal ever degrades. That way ... even if the signal drops for a few seconds here and there, you can still basically watch the show. And even if the signal completely drops for the second half of the show, the recording software should continue to attempt to record, in case the signal comes back at any time. I'm testing out another OTA DVR, and finding that it may be just giving up on the recording as soon as there is any drop in signal. This makes the device essentially useless as a DVR, since OTA signals may often have momentary blips... that doesn't mean you just stop recording the show, or reset the device when this occurs.
PLEX will stop the recording if the signal goes out and remains out. It will record through some basic glitches or brief signal losses, but if the signal fades and doesn't come back (I'm not sure the exact time frame, approximately 30 seconds), it will abort the recording. There is a setting in the DVR options to "keep partial recordings" which will dictate whether PLEX saves or throws away what was recorded. Also, this is a PLEX behavior, not the Flex4K.
@@av_nirvana That's a shame ... it should at least give the option of attempting the full recording - if not making that the default behavior - and should package the whole scheduled recording as a single video - not chunk it up into separate parts. Anyhow ... the OTA DVR I am currently playing with - it appears I got a defective unit, which was aborting any transmissions after a few seconds, regardless of the signal. I got a replacement unit, and so far it seems to be working as expected... which is that if the signal drops for a time, the recording continues in spite of this... that's what I hoped it would do. I need to do more testing, though, to see how consistent this is.
I had this issue. A very high wind day was shaking my antenna (60mph gusts) and the 8VSB modulation used with ATSC 1.0 don't like that much movement so I got a few shows with some pixelation and drop outs but it did record the shows
where does the media from the tuner get stored to?
Options. You can subscribe to HDHR’s service and connect a usb drive to the device or you can run a PLEX or Emby server on a computer on the network.
@@av_nirvana So, if I am using a plex server (which I am now for movies and music stored on a usb drive attached to a computer running the server), then the plex server will store the tv files onto that drive through the network?
Yes. Correct. As long as you have PLEX Pass. And you can map it to a different drive than your existing media if you need additional storage.
Can you hook this up to a laptop
These devices connect to your network via ethernet, not directly to a computer. They are then accessible from any device on your network. Adding PLEX to the configuration allows you to access when you're away from your network.
I dont understand why you need multiple tuners, can you give an example of how having multiple tuners work
Multiple tuners are for when you want to watch one thing and record another, or watch 3 different things in 3 different rooms. Each simultaneous activity requires its own tuner.
Can you add an iptv service to this
Not to the HD HomeRun tuner. PLEX used to have the capability built-in but it was removed, though PLEX has duplicated a lot of the same content/streams with its own “Channels” feature. I have never used IPTV services so I’m not 100% clear on what they offer but there are a ton of streaming channels available by default in PLEX.
So I can hook up this homerun device with my smartphone please get back to me thank you
Not exactly clear on what you’re asking. The device has an accompanying mobile app that is used to configure it. It doesn’t require PLEX. For just viewing on your local network, this is all you need. For viewing outside of your network, you’d need additional equipment. For DVR functionality, you need PLEX (or similar) or a USB hard drive and a nominal fee to HDHomeRun for extended functionality.
Hdhomerun once I get today or they just 3.0 or do they have the 1.0 win them please get back to me and let me know thank you
They are backwards compatible.
I just wish they weren't so expensive for what they do.
showing a tv channel live would have been nice to see...you know....what the product is supposed to do
This was a video about configuring it in PLEX, not watching TV. ;)
My name is Wayne Dishman I got a ATS Duo box I need somebody to help me set it up and download the information new software and the channel if I can't do that I don't have a computer
PLEX may never catch up.....they stil use a 32 bit system.
no UPS?
I was not running a UPS in this configuration but I am now that the setup is more permanently installed. This was a quick temporary installation right after the move just to get the DVR back up and running. We have since built out the theater and this entire setup is now in a closet on the other end of the room.
Use Channels DVR with this instead of Plex
Considering I'm already using PLEX as a content server, what would using Channels DVR offer other than another app to deal with, and another payment?
@@av_nirvana Channels works better. They also allow you to record the new 3.0 Signal. I've tried them both.
I'll give it a closer look. ATSC 3.0 doesn't offer a ton of difference yet, though I have noticed the audio quality seems better on 3.0. Thanks for the comments. Perhaps I'll give Channels a test run and post a video review comparing to PLEX.
@@av_nirvana Our locals are broadcasting with HDR. It looks great
Wow, where is this? In Seattle they’re just simulcasting an identical signal. Even the Super Bowl was still just regular 1080p.
Hey, if your going to show us everything in a flash, why bother. Your video shows very little in the way of teaching. Slow down a bit!!!
Thanks for the tip
I like how quickly he’s going over it. Too many RUclipsrs drone on forever. Great job!
Use the pause button 😂
@@MarXist33 🎉 E X A C T L Y 🎉
It would be helpful to change the title of this video or add a snippet at the beginning that indicates this is not actually supported by Plex rather than the viewer watching all the way to the end to find that out.
The HDHomeRun FLEX 4K is absolutely supported by PLEX. ATSC 3.0 is not. It still gives you four tuners to use inside of PLEX. While it doesn't say this in the title, it also does not specifically mention ATSC 3.0 in the title, which is the only feature not available in PLEX.
I'll never understand these goofy things, it's just another device for the sake of another device! Just like a Firestick, totally pointless unless you just want another remote control to kick around. Everything that everyone already has will run the software, PLEX, so you already have the devices, plural. Unless you all have some uncontrollable urge to get just one more remote control.... Well, I guess, to each their own. Cheers 🍻
This doesn’t add a remote, this adds the capability to use an existing PLEX server as a DVR for OTA channels. PLEX does not include a tuner, so that’s what this device is. I wanted more tuners available to record/view more content simultaneously, so I added this new device.
@@ballstadt:
If all you wanted was a tuner, then why not simply add a tuner/capture card to the server you already have? It would cost you about $100 for a good card which is $50 less than this PLEX black box thing, but you would have so much more power and configuration options available. all the while performing the same exact functions for less money, using equipment you already own. I'm sorry, but these black boxes make no sense to me. They're all just another device for the sake of yet another device. There ain't nothing that all these add on boxes can do that the PC you already own can't do better than, usually for free. In this case you need a tuner card for the PC, but it's still way cheaper than buying yet another black box.
Cheers 🍻.
@@Finite-Tuning buy a card and have to pull my server out of the rack, open it up and install, when I don’t have any open PCI slots vs adding a small black box into the home networking router. Also, “buying a PCI card” does not qualify as “using what you already have”. By definition.
Also, my equipment rack, where my server is located, is nowhere near the antenna input, but there is already a CAT6 run existing. This was by far the better option in my situation. The HDHR box is literally the same product as the PCI card tuners except it’s connected via network instead of inserted into the server itself. This is not a streaming box, it’s an external networked tuner.
@@ballstadt:
As I stated, “buying a PCI card” for $100 was the exception to your pre-existing hardware, otherwise you already had everything you needed. But you do you, I'm not judging, I'm just failing to understand is all. Everyone of these black boxes just end up costing more time and money for less performance and features and function then what everyone already has in the PC they already own. It simply does not compute in my mind, it's like adding 2+2 and totaling -1. It makes no sense to me that's all I'm sayin. Cheers 🍻