Yes, but affinity doesn't care about AI. In the forum, many are disappointed because Affinity previously had no plans to add AI features to its products. I hope Canva can fix this.
U ok with not getting an update or probably end of life support in 1-3 years? Entire suite cost sub 100$. Your phone of 500 to 1000$ and is supported 5 to 7 years.
@@knoerteberoerte Honestly the bad thing about it is it will probably be done the same way that other (non-Adobe) companies do subscription models, with a ridiculously expensive one time payment and an "affordable" subscription
Modern companies would add subscription to your teeth if they could. They will ruin this sooner or later. They have shareholders whose mouths are dribbling with saliva for recurring revenue with infinite growth. As soon as they reach a point where the money is not growing through quarters anymore, they'll start screwing you. Enjoy Affinity while you can.
I speak for everyone as we say: DO NOT ADD A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL. DO NOT MAKE IT EXPENSIVE. DO NOT LEECH ON OUR INFO. KEEP IT PRIVATE. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ADOBE DOES.
@@JoshWilliams-mf9fc wait, isn't "don't hold your breath" a saying for when we don't expect something to happen? But also, yes, they're eventually going to add a subscription model.
@@MountMatze much different case when you have no disclosure agreement with your clients .. and you don't know what Adobe is doing with your files .. training AI ... with my work ... haha.. i am so pathetic .. I should give it for free.. right?
You people are going in the right direction, please don't spoil it by going the subscription model route. Please listen to your customers, unlike some other companies
I'm an aspiring young designer from India. I've purchased a personal copy of Affinity suite which is approx INR 18,000 (150-200$) in my region, now transitioning to Affinity from Adobe since the Affinity ecosystem matches my creative workflow. I look forward to use Affinity for my professional practices, Meanwhile I'm going to pursue my master's education in interaction design at a university in Sweden and they have Affinity as part of student licenses. So my usage will be long term. I hope there are learning certification courses/official training similar to Adobe which will boost industry recognition.
I was writer, photographer, editor, content creator (whatever that means). I bougth in the amazing Affinity family early. I was wowed, blown away, liberated from you-know-whAd. Then Canva came along and I started using it for upfront simple work. Now, I'm a teacher. for two years, I've been enjoying the Whole Canva experience, but still feeling wanting (from my prior experience). And now, I fill fulfilled.
@@xblackmaria with windows and apple doing all this Ai, Linux might be the way to truly keep your workstation offline and your personal data away from those tech giants. As a digital artist I've recently made the move to Linux Mint and really liking it!
@@DonTNguyen well we don't need AI necessarily and it is not bad, yes it is if they harvesting our data but if not then please give me AI capabilities.
Canva still uses generative AI and is a subscription service. I don’t mind paying for Affinity 3.0 like I did for 2.0. I would like to know it isn’t scraping my stuff and the payment model won’t change. The new acquisition isn’t filling me with confidence. Still like the app, but will be paying attention.
@@shinomiya89 a lot of apps ruined “in app purchase” warnings below the “get” button. And the template nature of it didn’t appeal to me. So I mostly know Canva from reading about it. And its business model is based on subscriptions and they are heavily investing in generative AI. So they delve into a lot of buzzwords that have red flags attached to them :D Adobe is all sorts of evil, but Fresco lets you do a ton of stuff for free and it’s pretty fully featured even if you don’t spend a dime on it. Another in app purchases filled app I like is called concepts. You have some features you can buy for a flat fee and some come as a subscription. The flat fee items are really all one needs. I’ll give Canva the benefit of the doubt for now,
@@LisaMarieFord That is the bleak future we're in. We need more alternatives (esp open source ones) that aren't willing to sell themselves to giant corporations.
Canva, thank you for purchasing the Affinity company. Please never force the subscription business model like the Adobe. I'm Adobe user for over 22 years. But I am planning to leave Adobe permanently for life. I'm planning to learn to use all the Affinity products and Canva products from here forward. Please make more tutorials available so we can learn faster to use all your products.
Hello Prince. Your thoughts and experiences are important to us, and we're always looking for ways to make Canva better. Feel free to reach us at canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/ if you have any suggestions. Thanks!
I hope more apps give option for users to buy perpetual license instead of subscription. Since there are many people that don’t use the app everyday but want to own the best full featured apps in case they need those apps once in a blue moon.
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I just bought Affinity licences but as it’s been bought by Canva I’m really worried it’s going to get full of generative AI stuff like the sizzle reel here makes it look. I really hope it keeps its integrity and that our work can’t be used to train models without our permission, or I’ve just wasted 70 quid :(
@@KTCoopeThis seems like a battle people just can't win against corporations, isn't it? I don't see any way out of this unless the open source community stands up with good programs and services, but those open source programs do not have the same funding as these big corporations have.
Been a fan of Affinity for something like 7 years, and have used Canva for a number of projects, I really am excited, and a bit nervous, about this whole joining together.
spot on. Linux support would be really good. Then I would be able to kick not only adobe to the kurb, but also Windows as well. Being finally able to kick Microsoft and all its spyware and AI infested bloatware to the kurb would be a good thing
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Don't ruin it with a subscription model. Not having to pay a reoccuring fee is the main selling point that brigns people to Affinity.
If you make Affinity subscription only we will all leave. If you keep the current license and terms, allow us to purchase the Suite outright but allow Canva users separate terms, that is fine. Just know we are all watching, and none of us trust any company any longer after what we have experienced in this industry.
We hear you. All perpetual Affinity V1 and V2 licenses will stay the same as listed here: www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/. We’ll also make sure that our pricing will be fair and accessible to all as we're committed to developing our features with you, our community, in mind. Here are more details you can check: affin.co/canva-announcement. Thanks so much!
@@canva Yes I do understand that, we are all talking about V3. We don’t want “fair and accessible”, we want to own a perpetual license to our software. I suggest you offer Canva users access to the services online as usual, and offer Affinity users a perpetual license going forward. If you need to raise prices for perpetual licenses to make that viable then professionals will be fine with that. But you are adopting a software company that only became popular strictly because it does not have a subscription only model. Adobe is significantly better for serious designers, and despite your market share you know that they have more to offer if people have to choose between subscriptions. It’s a win win for you if you raise the price for a perpetual license, and then you can still drive people to sign up for Canva as your existing users would rather pay less as a subscription. But the entire industry will turn on Canva if you do not continue with perpetual licenses for upcoming versions. You know what being canceled online can do to stock prices. You can make everyone happy and be very successful, or you can be the next corporation that tens of millions of people decide they no longer support. I would recommend forwarding my comment to the relevant departments within Canva, and consider the price point that would allow perpetual licenses to remain viable from V3 onwards.
Yes thank you. We understand that, we are all talking about V3. We don’t want “fair and accessible”, we want to own a perpetual license to our software. I suggest you offer Canva users access to the services online as usual, and offer Affinity users a perpetual license going forward. If you need to raise prices for perpetual licenses to make that viable then professionals will be fine with that. But you are adopting a software company that only became popular strictly because it does not have a subscription only model. Adobe is significantly better for serious designers, and despite your market share you know that they have more to offer if people have to choose between subscriptions. It’s a win win for you if you raise the price for a perpetual license, and then you can still drive people to sign up for Canva as your existing users would rather pay less as a subscription. But the entire industry will turn on Canva if you do not continue with perpetual licenses for upcoming versions. You know what being canceled online can do to stock prices. You can make everyone happy and be very successful, or you can be the next corporation that millions of people decide they no longer support. I would recommend forwarding my comment to the relevant people within Canva, and consider the price point that would allow perpetual licenses to remain viable from V3 onwards.
@@canva I know its way beyond your pay grade as a social media ambassador, but I do suggest you forward my remarks. I don’t think a single user would mind being charged more for a perpetual license, in fact they have already stated they think Affinity was priced below its value. However the company Canva has acquired has a massive built in fan base that only purchased Affinity for one reason, and that is to avoid subscriptions, because our jobs are freelance and inconsistent at times. We need to wok on our portfolio in between jobs. Canva could build up trust in the design community and truly become the alternative to Adobe. Designers have no problem paying for their tools, but they need to own them, and they need offline access to work on clients on job sites and photo shoots. Existing Canva customers and new customers who are more casual will have no problem with a subscription model, but the entire user base of Affinity only purchased their products as an alternative to that model. We would love to support you, and we would be a driving force to bring more people from Adobe by word of mouth, but there must remain a perpetual license option for real creative professionals. We will support Canva so long as Canva supports us.
I totally understand its way beyond your pay grade as a social media ambassador, but I do suggest you forward my remarks. I don’t think a single user would mind being charged more for a perpetual license, in fact they have already stated they think Affinity was priced below its value. However the company Canva has acquired has a massive built in fan base that only purchased Affinity for one reason, and that is to avoid subscriptions, because our jobs are freelance and inconsistent at times. Canva could build up trust in the design community and truly become the alternative to Adobe. Designers have no problem paying for their tools, but they need to own them, and they need offline access to work on clients on job sites and photo shoots. Existing Canva customers and new customers who are more casual will have no problem with a subscription model, but the entire user base of Affinity only purchased their products as an alternative to that model. We would love to support you, and we would be a driving force to bring more people from Adobe by word of mouth, but there must remain a perpetual license option for real creative professionals. We will support Canva so long as Canva supports us.
Besides keeping the pricing model, it would be highly appreciated if Affinity got Linux support. A lot of professionals that work in the creative business like in 3D, VFX, etc. use Linux and there is a demand for a professional level image editing suite of software. It doesn't even have to be a native port as long as there is official support through something like Wine/Proton. Compatibility layer technology is really good nowadays and it's only going to get better, which would make Linux an easier platform to develop for (not to mention Flatpaks). Another suggestion would be to release Affinity on Steam so it will become easier to build the infrastructure needed to run Affinity on Linux. As a long time Affinity user on Windows it would be high up on my wish list of having all my professional tools available on a platform that isn't Windows or MacOS.
Hello Frozen. Your thoughts and experiences are important to us, and we're always looking for ways to make Canva better. Feel free to reach us at canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. Thanks a bunch!
I'm using affinity on my ipad and so far i never needed adobe based software. one recommendation: raw photography can be developed more. It has high potential against lightroom
I can imagine that in the case of a subscription model, it only affects new users. Those who already have Affinity have already contractually agreed that it is a one-off payment. They can't just ignore that
I'll add, PLEASE... ...Please don't take another of my BELOVED packages away and put it behind a monthly PAYWALL! When I have a software package I love, I UPGRADE w/o any thought - ALWAYS, to show my support for your company and efforts. If my consistent upgrade dollars aren't enough, then you're not pricing your product correctly. EVERYONE here LOVES this software suite! We love this software because it's NOT Photoshop, Illustrator or Indesign - and especially BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ADOBE!
i love canva. as a graphic designer, i get loads more work from my clients, who thought they could do it themselves. design software is an investment of time, this keeps users from leaving. so it is expected that canva do whatever it takes to get the user base, then do whatever it wants. if history has taught us anything.
It would be nice, but I don’t think so. If you use Finalcut already, you can try Motion. It’s not as good as AE, but it’s only like 80 AUD one time (so 50USD?). It is an AE alternative and it’s not THAT bad depending on how you used AE.
DaVinci Resolve's Fusion Page can compete with AE. It's node-based (like Houdini) rather than layer based. For me nodes are the better way to accomplish video effects since all the steps are exposed and easily organized. Plus, DaVinci is the Industry standard for color grading. It's like having Premiere Pro, After Effects and Audition rolled into one program. And it's free. You'll get a few more advanced tools if you want to buy the Studio version for a one-time fee of $300.
Long time Adobe user, but recently Canva and Affinity are killing it. Switched over, waiting for my wife to get red pilled into switching her Adobe obsession to Canva and Affinity
When I first learned that Affinity was bought by Canva, I was horrified. I thought that it might be corporatised like Adobe. And I was a passionate follower of Affinity. I also saw an old Tweet by Affinity saying that they'll never be acquired. Overall, I was sad. Then I slowly realised that Canva too was a company worth rooting for. They too had good values. And now, I'm excited for this combo to give Adobe a good competition. ❤Keep going!
Canva does not have good values - they have poured millions into AI and a template industry that has cut designers and artists OUT of the creative process. Canva values themselves making money over actually helping artists and designers make money. Idk how much clearer marketing your tool as "now you don't have to hire a designer!" can be.
@@usernamehandle Touche. But Canva did remove so many posters from this world that was pure eye-sore. And for people who need good posters, they still rely on designers, I think.
As a professional designer, this is very attractive! Combined with Canva's simple and easy to use tools, I can imagine that the UX on these applications is going to follow. Really excited to see what is next.
We hear you! We would love for you to share this suggestion with our team. You can send your feedback and ideas for new features using this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. Your ideas will help us improve our products and services. Thanks!
I opened a full (more than 100 Layers) AI file in Affinity 2.5.2! Lets see if I can finish this project in Affinity! It did affect the fonts,(easy to fix) but the gradients look amazing, keeping the effects I used in Adobe. The jpegs are good too
Affinity Designer absolutely dies when a piece of art has a ton of nodes. Some of the work I do routinely in Illustrator can be opened in Affinity Designer, but impossible to actually work on any of it. With Illustrator, it slows down, but it's very workable.
When you see how elegant is the creative director, you can expect how great the creative tool can be, do not expect high from a creative professional, a designer, or an architect if you see him/her unattractive.
What I think is a little bit confusing: You showed us a example with many 3D like shapes, but there is no function where I can generate these directly. At the moment I use Inkscape for that and import the SVG, because it is too timeconsuming for many shapes like a hall plan.
So far so well, I hope this gets a subscription and then gets bombarded with premium materials and features Hope this age like milk with a raw egg Please dont mess up your going very well ❤
*If* you come up with a subscription model for the Affinity Suite - make it really affordable (like $10 a month, or even less), with extra perks, and continue to provide a single-payment option (or at least a way to keep access to all content created with it, like "freezing" the version if cancelling the subscription after a year or so, making it similar to single-payment but with even less "barrier to entry"). I think this way people would actually love Affinity even more …
hope 3.0 gets 'select subject' and other machine rendered tools to make our job easier when creating. or in Photo 2 the lack of hover sliders over icons would be nice to adjust settings or font size, how photoshop allows. Also the icons are hard to distinguish with too much blue being used, and the 'healing brush tool' being changed from the bandage wasn't the best move. Some tweaks will make the software EVEN better!!
That sounds great, Garret! You can send your suggestion through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. Thanks a bunch!
As a professional brand designer I have been using Affinity for a couple of years simply because of the perpetual licensing model they have. But if in its versions V3, V4, V5, etc... they do not follow that model, I think that the vast majority of professionals who are currently using it will stop doing so. It doesn't make much sense to pay, let's say $10 (which is more or less what the Canvas subscription is worth, assuming they continue to maintain that price and don't increase it), being able to pay $20 for the entire Adobe suite (which also includes tools like Premier, After Effects, Lightroom, etc., not to mention it's the industry standard). I sincerely believe that not maintaining the perpetual subscription model would be quite detrimental, not only for the professionals who are using Affinity right now, but even for Canvas itself, since if the majority of professionals go back to Adobe, it will cost them a lot centuries recover the investment. Try not to do it as a subscription model (and I am not referring to V1, V2 as you are commenting, but to the later ones: V3, V4, V5, V6, etc.)
Don’t worry; all perpetual Affinity V1 and V2 licenses will stay the same as listed here: bit.ly/4anhdeq. We’re working on the pricing model with fairness and affordability in mind. Thanks a bunch!
@@canva subscription greatly reduce access to quality design products, especially in resource restricted communities all over the world. Paying for version upgrades would be the most ethical option because it allows for the choice to buy the upgrade which encourages better app innovations. Also, I love affinity products but subscriptions encourage affinity’s future replacement as affinity was adobe’s past replacement.
I look forward for 2.5+ since the suite still misses some CRUCIAL professional features (which Canva is already aware of) . I joined and very happy to finance this process of democratization of the design. Good Luck!
Hi Victor! Could you send this to Affinity so they can look into this? Here’s where you can reach them: affinity.serif.com/en-us/contact/. Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for letting us know, Victor. We also suggest to send your suggestion to the Affinity link we sent earlier, and send your feedback through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for any feedback that can help improve our products and services. You can also send us a DM or visit our Help Center for other concerns. Thanks!
I use Affinity over 3 years and I love it, as a graphic design student I use in most of my projects ❤ I missing somethink like figma and efter effect or lottie, UI design and animation soft from affinity suit that works offline 😊 I also think all this soft running on linux will be greate- I belive many people will have offline non AI linux machine next to win or macOs in future. Many nowdays soft is cloud base what automatiacally push subscribtion payment model to pay back servers bills etc. What will be fairplay its kind of option- one time payment for soft and extra pay for credits package to use cloud AI generation or whatever needed or extra updates. I will always looking for software for one time pay that let me just do my arts, designs etc. And dont make me worry what happen in next months or year- learning time is long process and I dont need to waste it to looking for another tool- Canva I hope you will keep like it is now 😊
As long as Affinity always has the option for a one-time purchase at a reasonable price, I’ll be happy! Hopefully that value stays with this company. PS: I will beta test for an After Effects!! That should be the next full-program by Affinity.
I would add that a competitive pricing for OPTIONAL generative ai adjunct / pluggin / updates could be game changer. This could be web (eg Leonardo) or local (eg Topaz) but with a customer considered pricing. Ultimately monopolies are intrinsically unfavourable for creatives. If desired improvements cost Canva then willing customers will pay 🙏
We appreciate your feedback, Chris! Your suggestion has been duly noted, and we will inform our team to consider it for the enhancement of Canva. If you have any further concerns, please feel free to send us a direct message or visit our Help Center at canva.com/help. Thank you for reaching out!
Dear Canva; is there Generative AI and if so what is it trained on? If there is AI is there a guarantee it is all ethically obtained either through submissions and licensing or within the public domain? Is there a guarantee that your company’s AI is not and will NEVER be trained on user’s content without explicit permission and a separate agreement? Is there a way to opt out of/not install/avoid the generative AI? Moving over to a new software that was just bought up by another company that would requiring relearning everything from the last 24 years without these reassurances sounds just as risky as sticking with Photoshop.
Here to help, Lisa! Would you mind sending a report here canva.com/help/legal-form? This will allow us to take a closer look into this. We'll keep an eye out.
**Important** Did anyone remember to remind the respective company ( Affinity ) who keep in silent the that issue we face since the last update about No Thumbnail in MAC still not fixed, telling us the new OS has changed and when we asked what are your engineers doing during the Beta OS they did not answer back, .....And the right to left writing support that we are requesting since V1 not yet available even worth the support team replying that it is not even in Plan ( Half of the world write in right to left ) are you going to do something about all these issues that we are facing? .
As an experienced professional user of Affinity, that acquires every single update and tool. I join my partners in the thread of users: DO NOT TURN THE BEST TOOL IN A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL. It's not a request. It is a promise to stop using the suite (I really love it, so please don't make me regret not to stick to Adobe and finding a better solution).
They legitimately have a chance to dethrone Adobe here. If they play their cards right of course. It won’t happen overnight but it the long term they could take a sizeable chunk of market share from Adobe.
I was using Canva to make memes for editing in Affinity. Canva has to understand that Affinity is just an interface for our creativity. And we have chosen Affinity to get out of being strangled by Abode licensing ($50/month/$600/year is a fortune), leave the Affinity pricing model alone 😂
That sounds great! You can send your suggestion through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. If you need help, please send us a DM at m.me/canva or visit canva.com/help. Thanks a bunch!
Great news. Now it is time to fix the brush engine in Affinity Photoshop so it is on par with Photoshop and other great painting apps like Krita and Clip Studio Pro. This is the only thing that needs improving and why a lot of concept artist don't use it.
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Affinity is great, good software, great license, affordable.
Don’t ruin it.
I give it 3 years maximum before it goes subscription. I hope not because I bought the whole suit.
Yes, but affinity doesn't care about AI.
In the forum, many are disappointed because Affinity previously had no plans to add AI features to its products.
I hope Canva can fix this.
Please please please !!
@@Realist-m9c its not just sustainable bro. Unless you are ok with not getting updates after. Affinity is affordable as heck you know.
U ok with not getting an update or probably end of life support in 1-3 years? Entire suite cost sub 100$. Your phone of 500 to 1000$ and is supported 5 to 7 years.
do NOT add a subscription model to affinity, i repeat, DO NOT.
I don't want to become the next Adobe. I despise adobe
They will.
Wait for it.
Although, it will be optional.
They said they promised that if they add a subscription it will be an optional one so the one time payment will always be a thing
@@knoerteberoerte Honestly the bad thing about it is it will probably be done the same way that other (non-Adobe) companies do subscription models, with a ridiculously expensive one time payment and an "affordable" subscription
Modern companies would add subscription to your teeth if they could. They will ruin this sooner or later. They have shareholders whose mouths are dribbling with saliva for recurring revenue with infinite growth. As soon as they reach a point where the money is not growing through quarters anymore, they'll start screwing you. Enjoy Affinity while you can.
I speak for everyone as we say: DO NOT ADD A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL. DO NOT MAKE IT EXPENSIVE. DO NOT LEECH ON OUR INFO. KEEP IT PRIVATE. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ADOBE DOES.
They are woke.
They know what people really want but they will do it gradually step by step until they reach Adobe’s level
As long as they don't add a subscription based model like Adobe, it becomes ridiculous the pricing. We shall wait and see
They will, don’t hold your breath
@@JoshWilliams-mf9fc wait, isn't "don't hold your breath" a saying for when we don't expect something to happen?
But also, yes, they're eventually going to add a subscription model.
Of course they will but it should be cheaper than Adobe & reasonably cheap just like Canva.
Notice how they didn't say anything about their selling things (as in not a subscription) business model at all...
I am fine if they charge for upgrades. I am not fine with charging me monthly.
hope you develop affinity further as it was, community powered and loved!! Do not destroy like others!
Great partnership. As long as Affinity doesn't turn into an Adobe product. It's perfect the way it is. ~Affinity Fan
Meanwhile, in Adobe: check out our new T&C, now we've access to all of your work LOL
@@MountMatze much different case when you have no disclosure agreement with your clients .. and you don't know what Adobe is doing with your files .. training AI ... with my work ... haha.. i am so pathetic .. I should give it for free.. right?
LOL not true
you should read canvas toc 😅
Omg lol 😂😂
Same here tho 😂😂
You people are going in the right direction, please don't spoil it by going the subscription model route. Please listen to your customers, unlike some other companies
If Affinity turns to subscription based model, it will be the nail in the coffin!
Hey there! We suggest reaching out to Affinity’s team so they can help you better: affinity.serif.com/en-us/contact/. Thanks!
@@canva Not a very inspiring response.
@@malikkelly it has to be an AI/bot response. Great stuff, really great...
@@canva WHAT F**king dumb response is this! Canva already started ruining Affinity?
after 5 years with adobe i moved to affinity and so far so good:)
I'm an aspiring young designer from India. I've purchased a personal copy of Affinity suite which is approx INR 18,000 (150-200$) in my region, now transitioning to Affinity from Adobe since the Affinity ecosystem matches my creative workflow. I look forward to use Affinity for my professional practices, Meanwhile I'm going to pursue my master's education in interaction design at a university in Sweden and they have Affinity as part of student licenses. So my usage will be long term. I hope there are learning certification courses/official training similar to Adobe which will boost industry recognition.
Which university?
Would you like to invest in energy recovery tech ?
Chibaaa
Training is futile
Try portofolio 😅
I was writer, photographer, editor, content creator (whatever that means). I bougth in the amazing Affinity family early. I was wowed, blown away, liberated from you-know-whAd. Then Canva came along and I started using it for upfront simple work.
Now, I'm a teacher. for two years, I've been enjoying the Whole Canva experience, but still feeling wanting (from my prior experience). And now, I fill fulfilled.
You're in for a great ride, team. Happy Designing! 🚀
@@canvaif the ride includes turning affinity into the next sloppy subscription crap to make investors happy, it's won't be enjoyable at all.
I hope Affinity will release a Linux version in the near future!
I think they don't care about Linux. They just care about numbers. They personally don't see big number of Linux users that is the reason.
why not join windows?
@@xblackmaria with windows and apple doing all this Ai, Linux might be the way to truly keep your workstation offline and your personal data away from those tech giants. As a digital artist I've recently made the move to Linux Mint and really liking it!
@@DonTNguyen makes sense
@@DonTNguyen well we don't need AI necessarily and it is not bad, yes it is if they harvesting our data but if not then please give me AI capabilities.
Feels like Canva is about to make a subscription model to Affinity in the future. I can smell it.
Canva still uses generative AI and is a subscription service. I don’t mind paying for Affinity 3.0 like I did for 2.0. I would like to know it isn’t scraping my stuff and the payment model won’t change. The new acquisition isn’t filling me with confidence. Still like the app, but will be paying attention.
Oh trust me, the bad news in on it's way.
Canva is free tho, you don't necessarily need a subscription to use it. Not for now at least.
@@shinomiya89 a lot of apps ruined “in app purchase” warnings below the “get” button. And the template nature of it didn’t appeal to me. So I mostly know Canva from reading about it. And its business model is based on subscriptions and they are heavily investing in generative AI. So they delve into a lot of buzzwords that have red flags attached to them :D
Adobe is all sorts of evil, but Fresco lets you do a ton of stuff for free and it’s pretty fully featured even if you don’t spend a dime on it.
Another in app purchases filled app I like is called concepts. You have some features you can buy for a flat fee and some come as a subscription. The flat fee items are really all one needs. I’ll give Canva the benefit of the doubt for now,
Thank you kindly. That answers one of my questions of if generative AI is involved. Not certain it’s worth moving since it sounds like no escaping it.
@@LisaMarieFord That is the bleak future we're in. We need more alternatives (esp open source ones) that aren't willing to sell themselves to giant corporations.
This could either be the start of something great or the end of the Affinity suite.
Canva, thank you for purchasing the Affinity company. Please never force the subscription business model like the Adobe. I'm Adobe user for over 22 years. But I am planning to leave Adobe permanently for life. I'm planning to learn to use all the Affinity products and Canva products from here forward. Please make more tutorials available so we can learn faster to use all your products.
Hello Prince. Your thoughts and experiences are important to us, and we're always looking for ways to make Canva better. Feel free to reach us at canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/ if you have any suggestions. Thanks!
@@canva Thank you!
I hope more apps give option for users to buy perpetual license instead of subscription. Since there are many people that don’t use the app everyday but want to own the best full featured apps in case they need those apps once in a blue moon.
We appreciate your feedback! Your suggestion has been duly noted, and we will inform our team to consider it for the enhancement of Canva. If you have any further concerns, please feel free to send us a direct message or visit our Help Center at canva.com/help. Thank you for reaching out!
I just bought Affinity licences but as it’s been bought by Canva I’m really worried it’s going to get full of generative AI stuff like the sizzle reel here makes it look. I really hope it keeps its integrity and that our work can’t be used to train models without our permission, or I’ve just wasted 70 quid :(
@@KTCoopeThis seems like a battle people just can't win against corporations, isn't it? I don't see any way out of this unless the open source community stands up with good programs and services, but those open source programs do not have the same funding as these big corporations have.
Don’t you dare ruin Affinity with a subscription model.
Been a fan of Affinity for something like 7 years, and have used Canva for a number of projects, I really am excited, and a bit nervous, about this whole joining together.
start saving up, subscription model will come, 100% sure
@@frankenstein2735 They can't just charge you regularly if you have a contract. You purchased the programs for a one-time payment, CONTRACTUALLY.
Now you just need to make a Linux version, and you have the world in your hand!
spot on. Linux support would be really good. Then I would be able to kick not only adobe to the kurb, but also Windows as well.
Being finally able to kick Microsoft and all its spyware and AI infested bloatware to the kurb would be a good thing
Don't ruin it with a subscription model. Not having to pay a reoccuring fee is the main selling point that brigns people to Affinity.
If you make Affinity subscription only we will all leave. If you keep the current license and terms, allow us to purchase the Suite outright but allow Canva users separate terms, that is fine. Just know we are all watching, and none of us trust any company any longer after what we have experienced in this industry.
We hear you. All perpetual Affinity V1 and V2 licenses will stay the same as listed here: www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/. We’ll also make sure that our pricing will be fair and accessible to all as we're committed to developing our features with you, our community, in mind. Here are more details you can check: affin.co/canva-announcement. Thanks so much!
@@canva Yes I do understand that, we are all talking about V3. We don’t want “fair and accessible”, we want to own a perpetual license to our software. I suggest you offer Canva users access to the services online as usual, and offer Affinity users a perpetual license going forward. If you need to raise prices for perpetual licenses to make that viable then professionals will be fine with that. But you are adopting a software company that only became popular strictly because it does not have a subscription only model. Adobe is significantly better for serious designers, and despite your market share you know that they have more to offer if people have to choose between subscriptions. It’s a win win for you if you raise the price for a perpetual license, and then you can still drive people to sign up for Canva as your existing users would rather pay less as a subscription. But the entire industry will turn on Canva if you do not continue with perpetual licenses for upcoming versions. You know what being canceled online can do to stock prices. You can make everyone happy and be very successful, or you can be the next corporation that tens of millions of people decide they no longer support. I would recommend forwarding my comment to the relevant departments within Canva, and consider the price point that would allow perpetual licenses to remain viable from V3 onwards.
Yes thank you. We understand that, we are all talking about V3. We don’t want “fair and accessible”, we want to own a perpetual license to our software. I suggest you offer Canva users access to the services online as usual, and offer Affinity users a perpetual license going forward. If you need to raise prices for perpetual licenses to make that viable then professionals will be fine with that. But you are adopting a software company that only became popular strictly because it does not have a subscription only model. Adobe is significantly better for serious designers, and despite your market share you know that they have more to offer if people have to choose between subscriptions. It’s a win win for you if you raise the price for a perpetual license, and then you can still drive people to sign up for Canva as your existing users would rather pay less as a subscription. But the entire industry will turn on Canva if you do not continue with perpetual licenses for upcoming versions. You know what being canceled online can do to stock prices. You can make everyone happy and be very successful, or you can be the next corporation that millions of people decide they no longer support. I would recommend forwarding my comment to the relevant people within Canva, and consider the price point that would allow perpetual licenses to remain viable from V3 onwards.
@@canva I know its way beyond your pay grade as a social media ambassador, but I do suggest you forward my remarks. I don’t think a single user would mind being charged more for a perpetual license, in fact they have already stated they think Affinity was priced below its value. However the company Canva has acquired has a massive built in fan base that only purchased Affinity for one reason, and that is to avoid subscriptions, because our jobs are freelance and inconsistent at times. We need to wok on our portfolio in between jobs. Canva could build up trust in the design community and truly become the alternative to Adobe. Designers have no problem paying for their tools, but they need to own them, and they need offline access to work on clients on job sites and photo shoots. Existing Canva customers and new customers who are more casual will have no problem with a subscription model, but the entire user base of Affinity only purchased their products as an alternative to that model. We would love to support you, and we would be a driving force to bring more people from Adobe by word of mouth, but there must remain a perpetual license option for real creative professionals. We will support Canva so long as Canva supports us.
I totally understand its way beyond your pay grade as a social media ambassador, but I do suggest you forward my remarks. I don’t think a single user would mind being charged more for a perpetual license, in fact they have already stated they think Affinity was priced below its value. However the company Canva has acquired has a massive built in fan base that only purchased Affinity for one reason, and that is to avoid subscriptions, because our jobs are freelance and inconsistent at times. Canva could build up trust in the design community and truly become the alternative to Adobe. Designers have no problem paying for their tools, but they need to own them, and they need offline access to work on clients on job sites and photo shoots. Existing Canva customers and new customers who are more casual will have no problem with a subscription model, but the entire user base of Affinity only purchased their products as an alternative to that model. We would love to support you, and we would be a driving force to bring more people from Adobe by word of mouth, but there must remain a perpetual license option for real creative professionals. We will support Canva so long as Canva supports us.
Everyone!!!! If affinity become suscription boycot it
Besides keeping the pricing model, it would be highly appreciated if Affinity got Linux support. A lot of professionals that work in the creative business like in 3D, VFX, etc. use Linux and there is a demand for a professional level image editing suite of software.
It doesn't even have to be a native port as long as there is official support through something like Wine/Proton. Compatibility layer technology is really good nowadays and it's only going to get better, which would make Linux an easier platform to develop for (not to mention Flatpaks). Another suggestion would be to release Affinity on Steam so it will become easier to build the infrastructure needed to run Affinity on Linux.
As a long time Affinity user on Windows it would be high up on my wish list of having all my professional tools available on a platform that isn't Windows or MacOS.
Hello Frozen. Your thoughts and experiences are important to us, and we're always looking for ways to make Canva better. Feel free to reach us at canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. Thanks a bunch!
I'm using affinity on my ipad and so far i never needed adobe based software. one recommendation: raw photography can be developed more. It has high potential against lightroom
Better for organizing and developing: Capture 1
so finally we have a good competitor for PS? damn!
It's not a competitor with Adobe. Never was. It's the product for people who don't need Adobe.
I can imagine that in the case of a subscription model, it only affects new users. Those who already have Affinity have already contractually agreed that it is a one-off payment. They can't just ignore that
I'll add, PLEASE...
...Please don't take another of my BELOVED packages away and put it behind a monthly PAYWALL!
When I have a software package I love, I UPGRADE w/o any thought - ALWAYS, to show my support for your company and efforts.
If my consistent upgrade dollars aren't enough, then you're not pricing your product correctly.
EVERYONE here LOVES this software suite!
We love this software because it's NOT Photoshop, Illustrator or Indesign - and especially BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ADOBE!
Affinity is a great software. I hope that from this union doesn't get worse. I chose it for perpetual license, keep this in mind. Congratulations!
i love canva. as a graphic designer, i get loads more work from my clients, who thought they could do it themselves. design software is an investment of time, this keeps users from leaving. so it is expected that canva do whatever it takes to get the user base, then do whatever it wants. if history has taught us anything.
5 months later and Canva has not added Affinity. We all are excited to try Affinity. Thanks Canava and Affinity for adding Affinity to Canva soon!
Wow! This is absolutely amazing. Thank you Canva (and partners)!!!
So glad Adobe finally stepped in it and is giving this platform really good press. Affinity is great. I love it on my iPad.
I just wish affinity to create a new software similar to after effects which can compete with adobe after effects
Yeah!
It would be nice, but I don’t think so. If you use Finalcut already, you can try Motion. It’s not as good as AE, but it’s only like 80 AUD one time (so 50USD?). It is an AE alternative and it’s not THAT bad depending on how you used AE.
This is why I don't want use affinity yet I use after effects too much
DaVinci Resolve's Fusion Page can compete with AE. It's node-based (like Houdini) rather than layer based. For me nodes are the better way to accomplish video effects since all the steps are exposed and easily organized. Plus, DaVinci is the Industry standard for color grading. It's like having Premiere Pro, After Effects and Audition rolled into one program. And it's free. You'll get a few more advanced tools if you want to buy the Studio version for a one-time fee of $300.
Long time Adobe user, but recently Canva and Affinity are killing it. Switched over, waiting for my wife to get red pilled into switching her Adobe obsession to Canva and Affinity
Stick with the industry standard.
@@pumpkinpatch5 Industry standards change.
When I first learned that Affinity was bought by Canva, I was horrified. I thought that it might be corporatised like Adobe. And I was a passionate follower of Affinity. I also saw an old Tweet by Affinity saying that they'll never be acquired. Overall, I was sad.
Then I slowly realised that Canva too was a company worth rooting for. They too had good values. And now, I'm excited for this combo to give Adobe a good competition. ❤Keep going!
Canva does not have good values - they have poured millions into AI and a template industry that has cut designers and artists OUT of the creative process. Canva values themselves making money over actually helping artists and designers make money. Idk how much clearer marketing your tool as "now you don't have to hire a designer!" can be.
@@usernamehandle Touche. But Canva did remove so many posters from this world that was pure eye-sore. And for people who need good posters, they still rely on designers, I think.
@@usernamehandleSo helping people who are not good in creating designs a bad value????
As a professional designer, this is very attractive! Combined with Canva's simple and easy to use tools, I can imagine that the UX on these applications is going to follow. Really excited to see what is next.
Please don’t add a monthly subscription like adobe
Everyone says don't ruin it. They will ruin. Time to look for alternatives
I hope that someday Affinity Designs will have something similar to image trace.
Also perhaps an alternative to Lightroom.
We hear you! We would love for you to share this suggestion with our team. You can send your feedback and ideas for new features using this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. Your ideas will help us improve our products and services. Thanks!
Now add RTL to affinity
And keep it one time purchase and you good ;)
So smart of Affinity to offer the software for free to schools. I always thought that was a big part of where adobe get their market share from.
Is Affinity 2.5 available for use for Canva Pro subscribers?
I opened a full (more than 100 Layers) AI file in Affinity 2.5.2! Lets see if I can finish this project in Affinity! It did affect the fonts,(easy to fix) but the gradients look amazing, keeping the effects I used in Adobe. The jpegs are good too
Affinity Designer absolutely dies when a piece of art has a ton of nodes. Some of the work I do routinely in Illustrator can be opened in Affinity Designer, but impossible to actually work on any of it. With Illustrator, it slows down, but it's very workable.
Now I use Affinity 2.5 with my wife's teacher account 🎉
I wish there was regional pricing, it costs half a minimum wage.
When you see how elegant is the creative director, you can expect how great the creative tool can be, do not expect high from a creative professional, a designer, or an architect if you see him/her unattractive.
I know who Affinity is, but who are Canva. I have never heard of them. It feels like it should have been Affinity taking over Canva.
This is Perfect Duo! not like Adobe x Figma mishap
please please do not ruin my editor of choice
3 years I left Adobe, 3 years I also used Affinity. If Affinity then becomes a subscription. I better go back to Adobe.
What I think is a little bit confusing: You showed us a example with many 3D like shapes, but there is no function where I can generate these directly. At the moment I use Inkscape for that and import the SVG, because it is too timeconsuming for many shapes like a hall plan.
So far so well, I hope this gets a subscription and then gets bombarded with premium materials and features
Hope this age like milk with a raw egg
Please dont mess up your going very well
❤
1:47 There is something soo satisfying about that 'tsk'.
I guess this will be my new home. Bye Adobe.
*If* you come up with a subscription model for the Affinity Suite - make it really affordable (like $10 a month, or even less), with extra perks, and continue to provide a single-payment option (or at least a way to keep access to all content created with it, like "freezing" the version if cancelling the subscription after a year or so, making it similar to single-payment but with even less "barrier to entry"). I think this way people would actually love Affinity even more …
I trust canva and affinity will do phenomenal innovations tgt
hope 3.0 gets 'select subject' and other machine rendered tools to make our job easier when creating. or in Photo 2 the lack of hover sliders over icons would be nice to adjust settings or font size, how photoshop allows. Also the icons are hard to distinguish with too much blue being used, and the 'healing brush tool' being changed from the bandage wasn't the best move. Some tweaks will make the software EVEN better!!
That sounds great, Garret! You can send your suggestion through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. Thanks a bunch!
Affinity is an amazing software, switched in 2020.
👀 I'm ready to see what's up.. let's go!
As a professional brand designer I have been using Affinity for a couple of years simply because of the perpetual licensing model they have. But if in its versions V3, V4, V5, etc... they do not follow that model, I think that the vast majority of professionals who are currently using it will stop doing so.
It doesn't make much sense to pay, let's say $10 (which is more or less what the Canvas subscription is worth, assuming they continue to maintain that price and don't increase it), being able to pay $20 for the entire Adobe suite (which also includes tools like Premier, After Effects, Lightroom, etc., not to mention it's the industry standard).
I sincerely believe that not maintaining the perpetual subscription model would be quite detrimental, not only for the professionals who are using Affinity right now, but even for Canvas itself, since if the majority of professionals go back to Adobe, it will cost them a lot centuries recover the investment.
Try not to do it as a subscription model (and I am not referring to V1, V2 as you are commenting, but to the later ones: V3, V4, V5, V6, etc.)
Something is telling me to go ahead and buy the one-time license because it seems like they'll add a subscription soon.
better do that before next year... they said that the will maintain things as it is for this year, but they dont say about next year.
The suite is on sale now for 50% off.
I love how Canva embed the subtitle into the video (hardsub), so I can still read it while the video is playing in PiP format. Keep up the good work!
We're thrilled to share the good news with everyone. Thanks for the feedback, Egy! 💗
Please don’t make it a subscription company because I love affinity!!!!
Don’t worry; all perpetual Affinity V1 and V2 licenses will stay the same as listed here: bit.ly/4anhdeq. We’re working on the pricing model with fairness and affordability in mind. Thanks a bunch!
@@canva Affordable to who you the company
@@canva subscription greatly reduce access to quality design products, especially in resource restricted communities all over the world. Paying for version upgrades would be the most ethical option because it allows for the choice to buy the upgrade which encourages better app innovations. Also, I love affinity products but subscriptions encourage affinity’s future replacement as affinity was adobe’s past replacement.
Right now I am downloading Affinity Photo 2. I really hope it completely replaces Photoshop in my life.
Dieser Kauf ist der Anfang vom Ende von Affinity!
I look forward for 2.5+ since the suite still misses some CRUCIAL professional features (which Canva is already aware of) . I joined and very happy to finance this process of democratization of the design. Good Luck!
Affinity Suite for Linux, please Canva!
Hi Victor! Could you send this to Affinity so they can look into this? Here’s where you can reach them: affinity.serif.com/en-us/contact/. Thanks a bunch!
@@canva Yes, but you are the owners now.
Thanks for letting us know, Victor. We also suggest to send your suggestion to the Affinity link we sent earlier, and send your feedback through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for any feedback that can help improve our products and services. You can also send us a DM or visit our Help Center for other concerns. Thanks!
Welcome subcription model!
I use Affinity over 3 years and I love it, as a graphic design student I use in most of my projects ❤ I missing somethink like figma and efter effect or lottie, UI design and animation soft from affinity suit that works offline 😊 I also think all this soft running on linux will be greate- I belive many people will have offline non AI linux machine next to win or macOs in future. Many nowdays soft is cloud base what automatiacally push subscribtion payment model to pay back servers bills etc. What will be fairplay its kind of option- one time payment for soft and extra pay for credits package to use cloud AI generation or whatever needed or extra updates. I will always looking for software for one time pay that let me just do my arts, designs etc. And dont make me worry what happen in next months or year- learning time is long process and I dont need to waste it to looking for another tool- Canva I hope you will keep like it is now 😊
And now, adobe isn't only 1. Hopefully with this competition, they won't make bad things like they just did
As long as Affinity always has the option for a one-time purchase at a reasonable price, I’ll be happy! Hopefully that value stays with this company.
PS: I will beta test for an After Effects!! That should be the next full-program by Affinity.
I would add that a competitive pricing for OPTIONAL generative ai adjunct / pluggin / updates could be game changer. This could be web (eg Leonardo) or local (eg Topaz) but with a customer considered pricing. Ultimately monopolies are intrinsically unfavourable for creatives. If desired improvements cost Canva then willing customers will pay 🙏
Well done to you. PERSEVERANCE is a key point.😮😅
Amazing Affinity for Canva and it's for free Can't😍 wait to explore them
for education!
Will affinity be coming to android?
love Affinity products being using it for years, but please do not make it another "adobe"
There is a big problem Affinity does not support RTL nor languages like adobe
Will you solve this dilemma with Canva?
Please do add Linux to the list of plaforms that is supported.
We appreciate your feedback, Chris! Your suggestion has been duly noted, and we will inform our team to consider it for the enhancement of Canva. If you have any further concerns, please feel free to send us a direct message or visit our Help Center at canva.com/help. Thank you for reaching out!
Great news, but please do not introduce a subscription only option... 🙏
Dear Canva; is there Generative AI and if so what is it trained on? If there is AI is there a guarantee it is all ethically obtained either through submissions and licensing or within the public domain?
Is there a guarantee that your company’s AI is not and will NEVER be trained on user’s content without explicit permission and a separate agreement?
Is there a way to opt out of/not install/avoid the generative AI?
Moving over to a new software that was just bought up by another company that would requiring relearning everything from the last 24 years without these reassurances sounds just as risky as sticking with Photoshop.
Here to help, Lisa! Would you mind sending a report here canva.com/help/legal-form? This will allow us to take a closer look into this. We'll keep an eye out.
**Important** Did anyone remember to remind the respective company ( Affinity ) who keep in silent the that issue we face since the last update about No Thumbnail in MAC still not fixed, telling us the new OS has changed and when we asked what are your engineers doing during the Beta OS they did not answer back, .....And the right to left writing support that we are requesting since V1 not yet available even worth the support team replying that it is not even in Plan ( Half of the world write in right to left ) are you going to do something about all these issues that we are facing? .
Canva buys Affinity because stock price needs to go up... Affinity V3 will definitely be a fucking subscription.
As an experienced professional user of Affinity, that acquires every single update and tool. I join my partners in the thread of users: DO NOT TURN THE BEST TOOL IN A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL. It's not a request. It is a promise to stop using the suite (I really love it, so please don't make me regret not to stick to Adobe and finding a better solution).
They legitimately have a chance to dethrone Adobe here. If they play their cards right of course. It won’t happen overnight but it the long term they could take a sizeable chunk of market share from Adobe.
Are work on I pad ?
What is the song during the trailer? Shazam can't recognize it.
It takes even closer look, closer, closer waoooooooo.
I wish they can create some video tools like After Effects and Premiere Pro. Just have to wait and see.
Affinity deveria lançar seu próprio editor de vídeo e interface também
This should have more views! I'm going to try Affinity
Can't wait to hear your designing experience, Ben. Cheers! ✨
Oh no ... this appears to be the start of a new Adobe. This exactly how they started back then when they lured all the designers into their trap.
I was using Canva to make memes for editing in Affinity. Canva has to understand that Affinity is just an interface for our creativity. And we have chosen Affinity to get out of being strangled by Abode licensing ($50/month/$600/year is a fortune), leave the Affinity pricing model alone 😂
Hello there! We suggest reaching out to Affinity’s team so they can help you better: affinity.serif.com/en-us/contact/. Thanks!
Please release this for Linux!
That sounds great! You can send your suggestion through this link canva.com/help/get-in-touch/general-feedback/. We're always on the lookout for great ideas like yours to make Canva better. If you need help, please send us a DM at m.me/canva or visit canva.com/help. Thanks a bunch!
Affinity becomes Adobe monthly payment with always online
and
Adobe becomes the old Affinity with no monthly payment and always offline
Great news. Now it is time to fix the brush engine in Affinity Photoshop so it is on par with Photoshop and other great painting apps like Krita and Clip Studio Pro. This is the only thing that needs improving and why a lot of concept artist don't use it.
I wouldn’t use Affinity Photo for drawing. Use Affinity Designer. It’s a lot better. I do most drawings in Procreate now. Cintiq gathering dust 😅
Can anyone name some past corporate mergers or buyouts that ended up good for consumers?
Affinity for android???
Add subscriptions and everybody will have Adobe back.