looks cool but you already know the big guilds are gonna build near resource spots "unless theyre randomly placed" and try to get a monopoly on the server.
Since MMO is massively misused as a label, is it actually like an MMO with thousands of people on a server like Final Fantasy 14, or just an online game like other survival sandbox games?
This looks really interesting to me. My 2 biggest concerns are 1: Combat. You can have a great game like Gloria Victis ruined but really lame combat so I hope they take a page out of Chiv 2 (best melee combat ever achieved in a game) 2: So many online games with great potential have been utterly ruined by cheating. War of the Roses, Reign of Kings, Red Dead Redemption 2, Conan Exiles all unplayable once the cheating started. I hope the developers take cheating as serious as WoW did so that players don't feel hopeless and give up.
@@SaiyanBroly dude fallout 76 was a flop because of how it was made, this game seems like its going to take eve onlines player lead market route for it, with fallout 76 they failed because 1. it made the world feel to empty and 2. because past games in fallout world had npc. with this game it explained that this land is basiclly abandoned and so it gives a reason for us the players be the only people there, we are the ones coming back and claiming the lost lands. we are the first arivals, unlike in fallout 76 where it was clear other had been there before us
Super hyped for this game but they need to fix the common problem these games have by limiting the certain amount of items that can be place. Example, I play conan exiles but good gawd you take a massive performance hit when getting near a person's supermassive base. It's not even the size of the base it's the fitty thousand torches they use to light them up. That cool flickering of a torch on the wall is nice in these new engines but put several hundred of them in one area its gonna hit performance on that area and the entire server in general.
It looks beautiful and the premise is interesting. But, with open world PvP, that rings the dinner bell for just enough D-Bags who live to destroy, to make things frustrating at best and unplayable at worse. What's the point of building only to have it all destroyed? Sadly, a pass.
If it isn't the building itself the toxic kids that have nothing better to do but ruin someone else's game play by camping outside of the heartland and constantly killing lower levels, preventing progress.
Fun little note: The name Pax Dei is actually a reference to a medieval religious peace movement. Essentially, it was an attempt to cut down on the constant feuding between the lower nobility of the high medieval era because those feuds were prone to causing major collatoral damage to agriculture, infrastructure and church property. The movement threatened excommunication on nobles who would damage church proterty or harm clerics, though later inclusions were made to also protect defenseless civilians in general.
I mean that's a reason SOME people like it sure, other like it because they can build a base and kill some monsters with friends...but regardless this game isn't trying to be Valheim it's just a sandbox mmo in a medieval setting, it's hardly a unique concept and I think it looks like it could be something a lot of people have been wanting
@@Sentinel_8il literally playing Valheim right now and I was literally thinking about this EXACT to the "T" MMO-like Valheim type of game. This is literally insane!
@HellHunterKiriu Ah nice man! Something I've been wanting too, it's looks like it has some potential, especially like the sound of having different jobs in a group
@@Sentinel_8 I promise my vocabulary is much more expansive that what my earlier statement suggests, but I'm really excited right now, so excuse me. But yeah, this game looks really good and I'm hopeful that it'll deliver. Valheim is special to me as it's my favorite survival game currently available, so if this game can do everything that Valheim does and allow for a socially operated server then I'm fully on board!
Haha nothing to excuse man, you're fine and yeah I'm hopeful for it too, just wanting to see what kind of monsters it has, hopefully we get some big scale troll types or something
Other games have tried pvp free zones and haven't done so well like starbase so unless they have a lot of pve content will make players leave the safe zones then it could work but a game mechanic like that can be a double edge sword sometimes .personally I can spend 100's of hours just building and not exploring anything in a game if the building mechanics are good it's why all my gaming friends call me bob the builder and make me do all the building 🤣
Nah pvp its what can keep the game alive, if done properly and balanced of course with no pay to win. At one point even the most difficult raid or dungeon becomes boring and repetitive.. pvp will always be unique and the difficulty will always be different and unpredictable, especially with the building system, I would love to see massive battles for territory or resources for example, be able to take over cities, land and stuffs like that.. that to me sounds fun
@@xpgainz I can see having your "base" be in safe areas but the PVP areas are where you could build like forts/castles to defend certain things. That way you build your fort or castle with the understanding it can be destroyed but should be fun. You don't lose anything from your main base where you have your supplies/weapons and nice village built up, but the fort is specifically built knowing it is what you defend or lose. The only issue with having certain resources or maybe buffs, people will feel they are forced to partake even if they hate pvp and it can be a huge turn off. I agree though you need a mix of both to keep a game going in the long run.
People love persistent and open world and build everywhere until they have to actually play it. Well JJ Q Munch clan lead by Craven Moredeck currently is built up on the spawnpoint of a boss preventing its spawn. While streamer ASD is leading a zerg against some rando for daring to not give him free stuff. Meanwhile the massive penis on the mountain is now ejaculating swasticas. To protest someone tried building a feminist icon somewhere but someone griefed it into looking racist. Meanwhile you the noob that just joined dont get to do much other than align yourself with the faction that is ran by the guy that says the N word a lot or the one that will treat you like a slave. If pvp exists players will focus that as much as possible. If build anywhere exists people will block off valuable resources/mobs/bosses. If the moderators intervene to remove ANY of that the players will revolt because "Why cant i pvp! Its literally the point" or "I just built a base in a cool area!" each side either not knowing they did something wrong or lying. EDIT: Forgot to mention that you cant take a break for a month or so because you probably lose everything. So now you are forced to play every day. What a horrible concept this is as a mmo. Have these players never played a sandbox game online?
You had me till you said most of the world is a pvp zone .............. yeah I'll past not interest in getting feed on by players that spend all day gearing up etc just so they can grief other players that only have limited time they can play in. Yelling get good feeding their ego's.
It's like dark souls pvp community, there's people who love invading and then there are those who just want to do co op and get through areas with their buddies at a casual pace. Pvp is sadly not everyone's cup of tea and imagine finally building something that took lots of effort or was annoying to gather only for you to lose it all and go through an annoying grind? You gotta be open minded that everyone doesn't enjoy pvp.
@@esebato24 I love souls games and I'm still playing elden ring, and for me I prefer to do coop for the most difficult areas and bosses but I love getting invaded, I get to fight against the monsters of area while fighting a real player that is there to kill you, you get a rush and excitement like no other.. I really don't understand how people don't like it?? Even the most op weapons have a counter but people either don't want to learn how to deal with it or lack the patience to improve so they cry about it lol
It can be hard to balance properly, especially when progression is concerned. You don't want a situation where new players end up getting bullied and become unable to progress because an experienced and much stronger player is repeatedly farming them. Most people don't mind PvP in arena settings or simular things, but it can suck if you want to go about your business and just can't because someone else is constantly trying to fight you. In settings like these, where enemies might be able to loot your corpse after death, it could get even worse, with people camping nearby dungeons and trying to just steal loot from anyone leaving the dungeon instead of engaging with that content themselves. Long story short, it just enables many more opportunities for some players to act like absolute cunts and ruin the enjoyment for everyone else.
Everyone is worried about the trolls ruining the experience by camping looking for new people. What are some solutions to that? I think making crafting and gathering two seperate skills that require one to focus on one will keep the trolls busy. trade and socializing can also be affected by a social point system. Simulating that if youre a habitial murderer youll have bad rep and you cant go to market to buy goods or craft anything. Idk just throwing an idea out.
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Another ultra realistic mmo which graphical fidelity will definitely not deteriorate in a year 😅
It will be dead in one month.
"Upcoming Ashes of Creation", you guys should go into comedy with material like that. Got me to bust out a laugh.
RIGHT?! Never ending story.
Ashes of Creation is coming out??????????? BLASPHEMY
looks cool but you already know the big guilds are gonna build near resource spots "unless theyre randomly placed" and try to get a monopoly on the server.
Since MMO is massively misused as a label, is it actually like an MMO with thousands of people on a server like Final Fantasy 14, or just an online game like other survival sandbox games?
Thousands of people on a server. Around 10k.
@@rowan1043 7k
This looks really interesting to me. My 2 biggest concerns are 1: Combat. You can have a great game like Gloria Victis ruined but really lame combat so I hope they take a page out of Chiv 2 (best melee combat ever achieved in a game) 2: So many online games with great potential have been utterly ruined by cheating. War of the Roses, Reign of Kings, Red Dead Redemption 2, Conan Exiles all unplayable once the cheating started. I hope the developers take cheating as serious as WoW did so that players don't feel hopeless and give up.
No npcs, huh?
We've seen how well that worked for Fallout 76.
Are you crying already?
@@RandomSorcESO Now that i've read your generic reply, i am.
@@SaiyanBroly dude fallout 76 was a flop because of how it was made, this game seems like its going to take eve onlines player lead market route for it, with fallout 76 they failed because 1. it made the world feel to empty and 2. because past games in fallout world had npc. with this game it explained that this land is basiclly abandoned and so it gives a reason for us the players be the only people there, we are the ones coming back and claiming the lost lands. we are the first arivals, unlike in fallout 76 where it was clear other had been there before us
Super hyped for this game but they need to fix the common problem these games have by limiting the certain amount of items that can be place. Example, I play conan exiles but good gawd you take a massive performance hit when getting near a person's supermassive base. It's not even the size of the base it's the fitty thousand torches they use to light them up. That cool flickering of a torch on the wall is nice in these new engines but put several hundred of them in one area its gonna hit performance on that area and the entire server in general.
stop playing on a Laptop...
It looks beautiful and the premise is interesting. But, with open world PvP, that rings the dinner bell for just enough D-Bags who live to destroy, to make things frustrating at best and unplayable at worse. What's the point of building only to have it all destroyed? Sadly, a pass.
I could be wrong, but I think that there are designated PvP areas, and buildings built outside of those areas will not be destructible.
Heartlands are pvp disabled
If it isn't the building itself the toxic kids that have nothing better to do but ruin someone else's game play by camping outside of the heartland and constantly killing lower levels, preventing progress.
Same here. Not interested in pvp
I'm pretty sure they will have full peace servers and full PVP servers as well as the mixed ones. most every game with PVP does this.
This looks cool and seems like it could be a good game. I just hope its not being over promised.
3:23 😂
Fun little note: The name Pax Dei is actually a reference to a medieval religious peace movement.
Essentially, it was an attempt to cut down on the constant feuding between the lower nobility of the high medieval era because those feuds were prone to causing major collatoral damage to agriculture, infrastructure and church property.
The movement threatened excommunication on nobles who would damage church proterty or harm clerics, though later inclusions were made to also protect defenseless civilians in general.
Important question though: What is its T.T.P.?
The reason people like Valheim is because it's not an "MMO" or about PVP like every other survival game.
I mean that's a reason SOME people like it sure, other like it because they can build a base and kill some monsters with friends...but regardless this game isn't trying to be Valheim it's just a sandbox mmo in a medieval setting, it's hardly a unique concept and I think it looks like it could be something a lot of people have been wanting
@@Sentinel_8il literally playing Valheim right now and I was literally thinking about this EXACT to the "T" MMO-like Valheim type of game. This is literally insane!
@HellHunterKiriu Ah nice man! Something I've been wanting too, it's looks like it has some potential, especially like the sound of having different jobs in a group
@@Sentinel_8 I promise my vocabulary is much more expansive that what my earlier statement suggests, but I'm really excited right now, so excuse me.
But yeah, this game looks really good and I'm hopeful that it'll deliver. Valheim is special to me as it's my favorite survival game currently available, so if this game can do everything that Valheim does and allow for a socially operated server then I'm fully on board!
Haha nothing to excuse man, you're fine and yeah I'm hopeful for it too, just wanting to see what kind of monsters it has, hopefully we get some big scale troll types or something
Cant wait to dupe a ton of items!
I hope we can atleast run
Other games have tried pvp free zones and haven't done so well like starbase so unless they have a lot of pve content will make players leave the safe zones then it could work but a game mechanic like that can be a double edge sword sometimes .personally I can spend 100's of hours just building and not exploring anything in a game if the building mechanics are good it's why all my gaming friends call me bob the builder and make me do all the building 🤣
I have big concern about game performance especially if there a lot of structure or player in 1 place
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Is the game on ps5 it looks awesome
The game is going to be like SAOif I'm right, Player will create weapons for you like SAO, Clothing like SAO
give us mmo with npc. I just want RuneScape on console lol
Is Pax Dei the actual name of the game?
yup. it explores life in times of the feudal age.
It sounds Chinese. I really wanted this but with cultivation not just normal stuff. But I will take what I get. This looks really good
I'll care when I see it myself
Is this on geforce now though
Take out PVP, make monster raid player base, that would be better.
Or make the pvp regional like in most of WoW.
Nah pvp its what can keep the game alive, if done properly and balanced of course with no pay to win.
At one point even the most difficult raid or dungeon becomes boring and repetitive.. pvp will always be unique and the difficulty will always be different and unpredictable, especially with the building system, I would love to see massive battles for territory or resources for example, be able to take over cities, land and stuffs like that.. that to me sounds fun
the ability to siege other online players kingdoms. would be so fun. idk if anyone has seen asmond play they built a dope castle @@xpgainz
@@xpgainz I can see having your "base" be in safe areas but the PVP areas are where you could build like forts/castles to defend certain things. That way you build your fort or castle with the understanding it can be destroyed but should be fun. You don't lose anything from your main base where you have your supplies/weapons and nice village built up, but the fort is specifically built knowing it is what you defend or lose. The only issue with having certain resources or maybe buffs, people will feel they are forced to partake even if they hate pvp and it can be a huge turn off. I agree though you need a mix of both to keep a game going in the long run.
People love persistent and open world and build everywhere until they have to actually play it. Well JJ Q Munch clan lead by Craven Moredeck currently is built up on the spawnpoint of a boss preventing its spawn. While streamer ASD is leading a zerg against some rando for daring to not give him free stuff. Meanwhile the massive penis on the mountain is now ejaculating swasticas. To protest someone tried building a feminist icon somewhere but someone griefed it into looking racist. Meanwhile you the noob that just joined dont get to do much other than align yourself with the faction that is ran by the guy that says the N word a lot or the one that will treat you like a slave.
If pvp exists players will focus that as much as possible. If build anywhere exists people will block off valuable resources/mobs/bosses. If the moderators intervene to remove ANY of that the players will revolt because "Why cant i pvp! Its literally the point" or "I just built a base in a cool area!" each side either not knowing they did something wrong or lying.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that you cant take a break for a month or so because you probably lose everything. So now you are forced to play every day. What a horrible concept this is as a mmo. Have these players never played a sandbox game online?
So its a medieval Fallout 76
if they think a completely player run economy w no npcs is going to work long run they should do some research into other games
Some developers have been making Eve online, so they should have experience in player-run economy
maybe developers should try a souls like survival sandbox mmo. what i mean of souls like is, you can only atk 2 to 3 times before stamina runs out.
So it's just medival Conan Exiles/Arc/Rust, why are you acting like it's something we have never seen before.
new elder scrollz…rolfffff…
You had me till you said most of the world is a pvp zone .............. yeah I'll past not interest in getting feed on by players that spend all day gearing up etc just so they can grief other players that only have limited time they can play in. Yelling get good feeding their ego's.
Honestly, the environment and the building aspect are really good but the combat is bad, it has to be more polished..
So can you turn off pvp or not?
Devs said no. but who knows what they will do in the future.
I don’t get why ppl don’t like pvp lol it keeps you on edge and the risks are higher and gives the ability to show off your skill in said pvp
Some people cry when they lose items idk haha
It's like dark souls pvp community, there's people who love invading and then there are those who just want to do co op and get through areas with their buddies at a casual pace. Pvp is sadly not everyone's cup of tea and imagine finally building something that took lots of effort or was annoying to gather only for you to lose it all and go through an annoying grind? You gotta be open minded that everyone doesn't enjoy pvp.
Sometimes people are pricks
@@esebato24 I love souls games and I'm still playing elden ring, and for me I prefer to do coop for the most difficult areas and bosses but I love getting invaded, I get to fight against the monsters of area while fighting a real player that is there to kill you, you get a rush and excitement like no other.. I really don't understand how people don't like it?? Even the most op weapons have a counter but people either don't want to learn how to deal with it or lack the patience to improve so they cry about it lol
It can be hard to balance properly, especially when progression is concerned.
You don't want a situation where new players end up getting bullied and become unable to progress because an experienced and much stronger player is repeatedly farming them.
Most people don't mind PvP in arena settings or simular things, but it can suck if you want to go about your business and just can't because someone else is constantly trying to fight you.
In settings like these, where enemies might be able to loot your corpse after death, it could get even worse, with people camping nearby dungeons and trying to just steal loot from anyone leaving the dungeon instead of engaging with that content themselves.
Long story short, it just enables many more opportunities for some players to act like absolute cunts and ruin the enjoyment for everyone else.
Everyone is worried about the trolls ruining the experience by camping looking for new people. What are some solutions to that? I think making crafting and gathering two seperate skills that require one to focus on one will keep the trolls busy. trade and socializing can also be affected by a social point system. Simulating that if youre a habitial murderer youll have bad rep and you cant go to market to buy goods or craft anything. Idk just throwing an idea out.
Its almost perfect. Now they just need to change the srtstyle to Anime style and then the game will boom in popularity
Remove walking.
Beautiful... Animation looks so good! Not like Bethesda sht
A medieval game with no pvp 😂😂😂
Its an empty shell of a game. Would not compare it to valheim.
Can I have my own server for my friends and I?
Hard pass, not my cup of tea
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