We’re going to Big Bend in a couple of weeks ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSt0aBrzyS1nxONvwm1e0u7ZDFD_eypAO so I bought these to use during the hikes, didn’t want to miss anything. As you can see by the photos I tested the phone adapter by taking a phone of a power pole on the next block and you can see the results. It took a couple of minutes to line the phone camera up to the eye piece, there’s a bit of a learning curve, but once it was longed up it stayed in place without any issues. So far I’m impressed with the feel and the weight, the neck strap is wide and soft so it feels good on my neck. I look forward to using it with my friend and grandson in Big Bend!
Thank you so much! I've read how to do this a hundred times but it didn't make complete sense until I saw the video. My Orion 8" Reflector is happy now :)
Thanks so much, I spent four hours messing around with it and I couldn’t get it right on the star test. I did it in 10 minutes after watching the video, it makes everything so much more clear
Hi JohnJ512, I'm sorry you received some binoculars from us that are out of collimation. They are all aligned at the factory, but perhaps something got jarred in shipment. We would be happy to fix the situation. Please call us at 800-676-1343 and we can arrange for a replacement. I notice you posted a variation of this message on at least 10 of our videos in the last few minutes. I hope you don't mind a copy-and-paste answer for the others. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Hi toughluck78, Collimation is a step by step procedure, so you align different parts of the optical system in a certain order. At 4:12, it's showing the secondary mirror centered in the focuser (look at the large red circle - that's the part centered). At 5:47, the primary mirror is centered next (the large green area). And then at 6:43 we're showing the last part to be centered (the reflection of the secondary mirror). Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
The diagrams are excellent. Other videos do a valiant job of trying to hold a camera above the cap hole, but these diagrams are the best aid that I have found. I love my XT8. Thank you Orion for making such great product for beginners like me!
Why was the process for adjusting the secondary mirror so different when using the laser eg. no need for a screw driver and the hex bolts were used as adjusters instead of locks
With the laser collimator you cant really do the back and forth adjustment of the secondarys since the laser doesnt care where it hits the secondary, just at what angle (that should usually be fine unless something is way out of wack). thats why the part with the center screw is skiped there. The three other screws serve dual purpose as "lock" and adjusters in both cases but you just never loosen them enough for the secondary to become loose when using the laser collimator.
A very useful video. Once you follow the directions and look through the cap yourself it becomes even clearer. Here's my take. Stage 1 = is the big circle (the primary) in the middle of your field of view Stage 2 = is the small black circle ( the secondary) in the middle of the big circle Stage 3 = is the tiny dot in the middle of the white circle ( the hole in the collimation cap) lining up with the white donut ( the middle of the primary) Usually only stage 3 needs adjustment.
1:10 When I bought my XT8, it came with the 2mm allen wrench. It also came with 2 wrenches. In fact, it came every tool you'd ever need for the XT8. How nice is that?
Hi Mike, We do collimate it at the factory, but yes it can get bounced around a bit in shipping. I can tell you from experience it will probably need at most only a little tweak to the collimation, but it won't be severely out of alignment. We package them very well and there shouldn't be any problem with it being shipped. Don't worry too much about the collimation process. It's really not that difficult and just takes a little practice. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Great! It worked for me. I have just purchased an Orion XT 8, 8'' Dobsonian. As beginner astronomer, I did not realized that some abnormal effects like _coma aberration_ had something to do with *correct collimation* . After few "googlings" I've found that it really is important and the procedure in this video was straightforward to help me solving this issue. Thanks guys!
Hi, I have the Orion LaserMate Deluxe but fits loose in my XT10i and the dot moves around quite a bit if I touch it so I'm afraid it will just make my collimnation ever worse. Should I shim it or what? Also the darn thing rolled off my table the other day so now I'm questioning if the laser is still aligned. Any way to find out? It would be nice if it had a flat side to keep it from rolling off of things.
Hi Tim, The barrel of the laser is slightly less that 1.25" so it will fit in any 1.25" focuser. Eyepieces do the same thing, but you never notice because you're not trying to use it for any alignment purposes. What I do is turn the laser on before I place it into the focuser, then insert it and push straight down while gently tightening the locking thumbscrew. This will butt the lip of the laser against the face of the focuser, insuring proper alignment. Once that's done, don't push on the side of the laser or it could possibly get knocked out of alignment. The lip of the laser is what insures the laser is sitting correctly. As for the beam being collimated, you can make a little jig out of two v-blocks (cut them out of some wood.) Clamp the jig down on a table and you can rotate the laser to see if the beam only rotates (aligned well), or if the beam scribes a circle (it would be out of alignment at that point). Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Orion Telescopes & Binoculars Still not sure if that's centering the laser. Pushing it up against the lip will keep that laser running parallel to the focuser, but still doesn't insure concentricity to the focuser. couldn't the locking screws still push it to one side a bit?
Dave Crocket I am also curious, why in this video, there was no need to adjust the in and out of the secondary mirror with the laser, like you did while using the collimation cap? Why would the collimation tool being used, enable you to skip that in and out adjustment?
Dave Crocket Hi Dave, You're correct that pushing it in keeps it running parallel - that's the most important part. Yes, the laser may be slightly to one side of the hole, but so is your eyepiece, and anyways, the difference is negligible. The 1.25" focuser hole is probably at most 5 thousands of an inch bigger than the laser itself. So the laser would be at most 0.005" away from the center of the dot. The laser beam itself is probably 1/16" - 1/8" thick, so you'd never see that difference. As long as the laser is parallel to the focuser, you're good. As to your second question, lasers don't really help if the secondary is too far up or down the light path (unless you want to place a centering spot on your secondary.) It will still show it collimated, even if the secondary is too far towards or away from the primary, but perfectly tilted. That's why a collimation cap is good so you can check the centering of the secondary mirror either towards or away from the mirror (along that optical axis). The reason you don't really worry about this during laser collimation is because the mirror doesn't go out of adjustment in that axis unless you take the mirror out for cleaning. After you do the adjustment with the collimation cap, you usually only have to worry about tip and tilt of both mirrors from then on. But definitely check that first with the collimation cap if the secondary is removed, or if someone accidentally messes with the central screw on the secondary holder. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
I have one issue with the instructions on this video with regards to using the laser collimator - you say that you only need one tool, to adjust the secondary tilt to have the laser hit the centre dot on the primary. You forget to understand that the secondary should be centred in the focuser BEFORE adjusting tilt on the secondary. I presume that you meant (and omitted) to mention to use the collimating cap FIRST, before then proceeding to use the laser.
Okay, so this is 9 years after this video, so I'm hoping that someone will get this notification. I have never had a telescope, so this is all new to me at 54 years old. I could easily see how one can know that the primary mirror is properly aligned because of the bullseye, but I couldn't quite understand how to know (visually) that the secondary mirror was in the right place, because it looked like things were off to the side when it was finished. If anyone can explain (or re-explain) how to know when you are finished with the secondary mirror, that would be much appreciated.
The main thing to watch out for is that the reflection of the primary mirror is as centered as possible relative to the secondary mirror. When the secondary is properly aligned, the reflection of the secondary mirror that you see in the primary mirror will look lopsided, this is normal because the secondary mirror is offset from the factory for optical reasons. Because of this, viewed from the side from the focuser the secondary appears as a circle, but when you see the secondary's reflection in the primary mirror, it looks off center. The main adjustments you want to make to the secondary are to get it as centered as possible relative to the focuser, and get the reflection of the primary mirror centered in the secondary. Once that's done you just adjust the primary to align the center mark with the center dot. Collimation can be fairly difficult to explain clearly over text, so feel free to get in touch for further assistance!
Orion I just got my 6ai, and I've never been more excited for a night sky in my life. Thank you so much for going the extra mile and including with my purchase some free extras due to a slight delay in shipping. Can't wait till I get my mid-life crisis telescope from you all! 😁😁😁
11.10 : BASIC BASIC question here (sorry) how do i know my secondary mirror angle is perfect? I.E. It can rotate! and I am unsure I have it precise. I have collimated both mirrors with a collimating laser to perfection but worry my mirror is not angled correctly... HELP!
Hi Jon, If you pull out the eyepiece and look down the focuser (use the collimation cap to verify you're looking down the very center of the focuser barrel), you'll see the reflection of the primary mirror in the secondary mirror. If the secondary mirror is rotated away from facing the focuser, you'll noticed that you can't see the entire image of the primary in the secondary. The sides of the primary closest to both tube walls will be clipped off, until you rotate the secondary until it's facing the focuser and angled correctly. I hope that helps, thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
SUPER!!! next question I have a NEWTONIAN 150/750 and have collimated it to precision with a laser collimator but STILL SEE crosshairs! Can you help? What am i doing wrong?
Hold the phone. ALL other collimation videos for dobs I've seen say "loosen the secondary set screw then adjust the hex screws then lock it all into place again with the center phillips." This instructional video has that exactly backwards. Trying it the way in this video does not see to be correct.
Hi Sean. The center Phillips adjustment is only used if you have to center the secondary mirror in the focuser drawtube or along the optical path in general. This particular adjustment is rarely needed - an example would be when you're re-attaching the secondary mirror assembly after completely removing it for cleaning. The actual tilt adjustments are done with the 3 hex screws. We have a separate addendum to our collimation instructions here: bit.ly/2HpC084
Thank you. Great explanation. I'll have the local shop do it the first time (the scope has been moved internationally and dented), but I think I got this after that!
Hi Andres, That sounds perfectly normal. If you have the focuser positioned at its lowest point, the tube of the focuser will block some of the reflection of the mirror. Just rack the focusing tube out until you can't see it in the reflection. When an eyepiece is inserted and focused at the night sky, the tube is far enough out to not block any of the mirror. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Hi Assassain54, Yes, you can still collimate your telescope without the collimation cap. The cap just helps center your eye in the focuser, and if you're careful, you can do that yourself without the aid of the cap. Also, you can make your own collimation cap using an old film canister with a small hole in the center of the cap, and the bottom cut off. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
Hi youssef, Yes, it's still entirely possible to collimate without the cap or the laser - you'll just have to estimate when you're looking through the focuser that your eyeball is in the center of the focuser, and everything looks concentric. You can also make your own collimation cap using those old grey film canisters. Cut the bottom off, poke a small hole in the center of the lid, and slip it into the focuser. The outside diameter of a film canister is also 1.25", same as an eyepiece. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Hi Robert, In a properly collimated reflector, the secondary mirror is offset in the tube. It's positioned slightly away from the focuser, and slightly down the tube. The amount of offset is determined by the focal ratio. Fast scopes have more offset. Make sure the shadow of the secondary is centered in the primary, but you don't have to worry about your eyeball reflection in the reflection of the secondary. It's a bit off towards the opening of the tube. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
THIS is why I hate dealing with a "too short" focal length Newtonian. With SHORT FOCUS Newtonians the alignment of these two mirrors IS CRITICAL! It must be precise, or your view 🤔 is not good at all. Thus, for a Dobsonian? I limit myself to a 12 inch f/6. Even then, with hauling such a heavy, bulky instrument in and out of the house, you will NEED to check for proper (Precise) alignment EVERY TIME ! This is why having a permanent mounting and roll-off Shed for such an instrument is so important. I encourage all Astronmers to invest in these simple, but very necessary measures. 😊
I just became the owner of an ORIÓN SPACE PROBE 130ST I need information how to collimating the instrument. The primary mirror housing looks totally different than all the videos shown. I’m a novice.
Hi, I have a Saxon Newtonian Reflector Telescope (200/1000) and I am unsure how I would align my primary mirror. The rear of the tube simply has 3 Phillips head screws, that is it. No knobs, twist screws or pairs of adjustment pieces.
Can you explain to me why you absolutely refuse to sell a base/mount for your XT8 without proof of purchase? I inherited a telescope from my father and it doesn't have a base, I emailed your support and they are refusing to take my money for one. I don't understand.
Hi Ming, You can still collimate without a center mark. It may not be quite as accurate, but just estimate where the center of the mirror is and you should be fine. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
I just bought one used had a spider and dust in it got it out but cant get it to focus hope its just not culminated. Lack of culmination would be the only reason I can't focus right.
PLEASE Can you help me with the collimation a CELESTRON 130EQ_MD with o without a laser collimator" I' am a very neW astronomer!! Well just a novice first time need a collimation!! VERY SCARE!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!
I have the XT6 Dobsonian and was able to get it pretty close to bull's eye by adjusting the primary mirror (Stage 3 like Jonathan Shields says below) The secondary mirror, however, does it require something other than a 2 mm elan wrench? Because the 3 openings seem to accommodate this size, but the actual screws at the back are much smaller. This is the part that remains a bit off for me. Also, I can tell my primary mirror is pretty disturbingly dirty. Also, Saturn and Venus for instance are almost double images recently even in focus. The moon is still pretty remarkably clear, but I can't seem to get a clear view of Saturn especially, or even Mars for that matter, now that they are both pretty easily accessible in the hour preceding dawn. Is that a result of collimation being off, or dirty mirrors, or both? How big of a pain is it to remove and clean the mirrors? Thanks very much in advance to anybody who may be able to help, and thank you for this video! Cheers!
Don`t even understand this. I centered the dot into the bulls eye just by turning the screw at the front off the telescope. Didn`t touch the end ( primary mirror)
So my sisters co worker gave her this exact telescope for free because he just doesn’t use it anymore, the only thing missing is the finders scope. Can she just replace that with the scope she has on another telescope she got at Walmart?
Hi SV544, It sounds like you actually have it collimated well. In a perfectly collimated reflector that has a fairly fast focal ratio (f/6 or faster), the last reflection of the shadow of the secondary will be offset towards the opening of the tube. This is an optical effect caused by one side of the secondary mirror being farther away from you eye than the other side. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
I really don't get how my telescope comes misaligned sitting in its case in the closet. I think it's a pain in the ass to do every time I want to look at something.
Actually my problem is the housing has 3 on the outside surrounding the rear body of the tube and 3 screws on the cap (plate) of the tube. Which are the locking screws and which are the focusing screws?
I believe this is the only youtube video I know that doesn't have any dislike. Not even one😳 I guess no trolls here.. Great video for sure.. Thank you so much👌🙏🙏
I am looking down the barrel of my Orion 114AZ reflector (which I recently inherited) and it's obvious to me that the mirror is dirty. Any tips on cleaning?
Big Newtonian mirrors can take quite a bit of dust before seeing any impact to the performance, so cleaning the mirrors should only be done in cases where they're significantly dirty. If you find the performance is being impacted you can look over the cleaning procedure in the instruction manual. You can read specifically about how to clean the mirror here, on the XT8 Classic manual for example, starting on page 14: bit.ly/3yWA3sU
Hi. I don't understand what he said about the secondary mirror. First I loosen the allen screws, then I adjust them, then I tighten them? Won't tightening them ruin all the adjustments I've made? Thanks!
You should only loosen one set screw at a time, by no more than 1/4 turn and then tighten the other 2 allen screws to take up the slack. You'll want to make small adjustments like that until the tilt is correct, and by the end all 3 should be reasonably tight. You can read more about the process on his collimation document here: bit.ly/2AAELP2 If you ever need additional assistance we would be happy to help, feel free to contact us by phone at 1-800-447-1001 or by email at support@telescope.com.
I bought the XT8 last year, never checked the back holdings screws. Mine were all loose and my scope was out of collimation. This video was great, have it all aligned, now I need a clear sky!
Hi liveLAsunday, In what way is the main mirror not in the center of the secondary? Do you mean when you take the laser out and look, or do you mean the returning laser beam up near the focuser is not in the center. If that's the case, then the primary mirror needs some adjustment. If it's the first case, then your secondary mirror may not be centered under the focuser left to right or up and down and it might be distorting the results. -Ken Orion Telescopes
Not sure if anyone is going to notice this, but I got my Skyquest XT6 last week and it doesn't seem to have a collimation cap? Is that no longer needed or something?
We made this collimation video some time ago and our products have seen some changes over the years. We have since developed better and easier to use collimation tools like our precision Collimating Eyepiece (bit.ly/3ZSETlx) or the LaserMate Deluxe II Collimator (bit.ly/2xiZJPL) and we decided to stop including the basic cap with our Dobsonians. The video is still quite helpful and covers the basic principles of collimation but we very much appreciate your feedback.
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I'm scare to collimate my telescope, i'm scare to turn the secondary mirror or make it fall dawm :(
It took me a while to understand that the collimation adjustment screws on the bottom were all independent of each other. I finally got that dot in the middle! I'm in my early 50's, and this is my first telescope.
So I have a Celestron Astromaster 130 and my instructions say not to tighten or loosen the center screw on the secondary mirror but It doesn’t look like it’s centered through the focuser. What should I do
It may be a stupid question but i have a dob 8 ive collimated it took the primary mirror out cleaned it and the image without eyepeices in it is still blurry it is starting to piss me off not knowing how to fix it its a brand new telescope .
Hi Aaron, give our Tech Support a call and we'll be happy to help run you through a few troubleshooting steps to get your Dob back in order. You can reach us at 1-800-447-1001.
Hi John, We just aren't set up for international shipping. But we do have dealers around the world that carry our products so there is a good chance there is a vendor near you who would have our products. I'm sorry we aren't able to satisfy your needs directly. -Ken Orion Telescopes
Great video, I picked up anXT8 yesterday and removed the primary for cleaning, secondary needed a gentle wipe too....but no I know how to collimate this correctly. Thank you for this brilliant and very useful video.
Would it be ok to tilt the open end of the tube slightly downward instead of having it horizontal so if you were to drop something in the tube it would have to roll uphill in order to contact the mirror?
How to Collimate a Telescope: step one: live anywhere in the world except Egypt, where owning telescopes is not a crime. step two: own a telescope. step three: collimate.
Hi Nick, This procedure should work for any standard Newtonian reflector, but of course, you should check the manual for your telescope for any specific details. Most all telescope manuals have a collimation procedure included. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
As good as this video is at explaining the alignment, I am amazed that of all people, those that know good optics would put out a video explaining how to have great images, on a 360 mega pixel video. Crazy.
Just to give you a little info. 360p isn't the megapixel count, but instead an indicator of the resolution with the p meaning "progressive scan". Likely the video is something like 640x360 which is around 0.23 megapixels. Though, I do entirely agree with you. No excuse for it to be 360p.
This is SO not clear. The diagrams should show more, what it looks like out of alignment and what it should look like. Very frustrating. My Orion came just came and the red beam collimator shows on the wall, so I guess mine didn't come factory aligned.
Hi Pedro, sorry if the video isn't clear. You can usually find additional instructions and diagrams in the instruction manual that came with your telescope. If you want an electronic version, you can find the manual for your telescope on our website: www.telescope.com Additionally, if you need some further assistance we encourage you to contact us directly to speak with our Technical Support Department at 1-800-676-1343.
nice job on this.......I've done this in the past, worked nice for me. I have friends that are confused by collimation but this is an easy way to explain it to them.
Hi Rickytan88, It certainly could be due to poor collimation, so it's just something you'll have to look for. If the star image slightly out of focus doesn't look symmetrical, you'll have to adjust the collimation. Collimation is pretty much the same for all reflectors, but check your manual for the exact method. Some scopes need phillips screwdrivers, some need hex wrenches, and others have thumb knobs without needing many tools. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
So I have the short tube eq 4.5. When I turn on the laser it's a nice fine point as a laser should be. Once I slide it In the focuser it gets fuzzy and not a fine point at all. After trying to line up everything it still is fuzzy entering back into the collimator. We are talking like a 1/4 inch by 1inch fuzzy dot. My scope now doesn't focus too well.. idk maybe I have an issue with my scope. Ugh. All well I guess
Hi Ben. The fuzzy laser dot could be happening if the telescope has a built-in barlow, but we understand that the fuzzy dot and lack of center mark can make things difficult. If you're still having trouble, feel free to contact our Technical Support and we can discuss some tips and see if we can help. 1-800-447-1001 support@telescope.com www.telescope.com
Hi NoneofYourbusiness, Thanks for the comment. Each scope is slightly different, and we recommend reading through the manual for the particular telescope. The threads on the XT-8 locking screws are fairly course, so they unscrew quickly. But I agree, they do have to be loosened enough so they don't re-engage when using the collimation screws. And they can just barely be tightened down afterwards - no need to really clamp down which can affect the collimation. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
Does bad collimation result in chroma shift like a refractor? Looking at jupiter tonight with xt-8, I noticed red and blue at opposite edges like a cheaper achromatic refractor. Is this the byproduct of bad collimation, they eyepiece (25mm sirius plossl) or barlow (generic short barlow)? I was under the impression that reflectors didn't have refractor- like color shifts at edges.. Thanks, Andy
Hi Grannyhauenstein, Yes, it sounds like your secondary mirror is pretty far out of alignment. Start with the secondary, and adjust it until the laser comes back onto the primary mirror. Once you get the secondary adjusted so it's hitting the center of the primary, then it's time to start adjusting the primary mirror. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
I lost my collimation cap where the heck do Ibuy one orion telescopes.com only has laser collimaters. I myself think the cap is more accurate and better. I can't find one on ebay or telescopes.com please help
Hi GrungeManic, While we don't have a simple collimation cap for sale, we do have a cheshire/sight tube available, called the Orion Collimating eyepiece (#3640). It's the same principle as a collimation cap, but with the addition of crosshairs for more accuracy. Simply go to our website and enter 3640 into the search field at the top - it will pop right up. Thanks -Ken Orion Telescopes
Hi, I've recently purchased an Orion sky scanner 100. Is the primary mirror perfectly collimated, as there are no collimation screws behind it? Thanks!
Hi Ronald. The SkyScanner 100mm telescopes are factory collimated but you may find over time that it may need to be adjusted. The owner's manual should include an addendum that outlines this process, which is slightly different for fixed-primary mirrors. You can see this addendum here on our site: www.telescope.com/assets/product_files/instructions/29530_06-14.pdf
Hi Ben, When you look at a star and defocus a bit, you'll see a doughnut shaped pattern. The doughnut should be concentric, with the hole right in the middle. If it's not, then the scope will require some collimation. During the day you can also check collimation by looking through the focuser without an eyepiece and checking for concentric components. In the back of the manual is a section on collimation and what you should expect to see. i wouldn't worry too much about it. With a little practice, you'll become proficient at knowing when it needs it, and how to do it. The scopes are collimated at the factory, and should arrive collimated or close enough to where you may only need to tweak the alignment slightly. Thanks! -Ken Orion Telescopes
I just can’t seem to get the reflection of the collimation cap centred under the focuser. Any help. I can set the secondary mirror so I can see the mirror clips and also I can set the primary mirror Center soon in the hole on the colimation cap.
Feel free to contact our Tech Support and we'll be happy to give you some additional assistance. Contact us any of the following ways: Phone: 1-800-447-1001 Email: support@telescope.com Live Chat: www.telescope.com
Tried using the laser, but my scope is so far out of line, the laser doesn't even hit the primary mirror, but it lands on side of the tube next to the mirror instead. Where do I start? Is my secondary mirror way out of alignment?
We’re going to Big Bend in a couple of weeks ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSt0aBrzyS1nxONvwm1e0u7ZDFD_eypAO so I bought these to use during the hikes, didn’t want to miss anything. As you can see by the photos I tested the phone adapter by taking a phone of a power pole on the next block and you can see the results. It took a couple of minutes to line the phone camera up to the eye piece, there’s a bit of a learning curve, but once it was longed up it stayed in place without any issues. So far I’m impressed with the feel and the weight, the neck strap is wide and soft so it feels good on my neck. I look forward to using it with my friend and grandson in Big Bend!
Thank you so much! I've read how to do this a hundred times but it didn't make complete sense until I saw the video. My Orion 8" Reflector is happy now :)
Thanks so much, I spent four hours messing around with it and I couldn’t get it right on the star test. I did it in 10 minutes after watching the video, it makes everything so much more clear
clearer
@@desertpair2 Thank you Grammar Police.
I love correcting people who think that they’re correcting others.
‘So much more clear’ is correct and acceptable.
@@simonh10 lol thank you for correcting his incorrect correction. You are....correct
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A vid showing what you are seeing through the focuser would be of help.
Hi JohnJ512,
I'm sorry you received some binoculars from us that are out of collimation. They are all aligned at the factory, but perhaps something got jarred in shipment. We would be happy to fix the situation. Please call us at 800-676-1343 and we can arrange for a replacement. I notice you posted a variation of this message on at least 10 of our videos in the last few minutes. I hope you don't mind a copy-and-paste answer for the others.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Now, that! Is an INSTRUCTIONAL video. Very well done!
Great video! P.S. Who else heard the fart at 4:19? 😂
It was his shoe probably
11 years later and I just got my first telescope and after so much reading online forums this one helped the most, thank you!!
Now if Orion could make the clouds go away tonight I'd be a lifelong advocate
Hi toughluck78,
Collimation is a step by step procedure, so you align different parts of the optical system in a certain order. At 4:12, it's showing the secondary mirror centered in the focuser (look at the large red circle - that's the part centered). At 5:47, the primary mirror is centered next (the large green area). And then at 6:43 we're showing the last part to be centered (the reflection of the secondary mirror).
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Wow, 9 years later and still the best there is.
I was thinking the same thing
Yeah, but 380p?
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Long time ago..
The diagrams are excellent. Other videos do a valiant job of trying to hold a camera above the cap hole, but these diagrams are the best aid that I have found. I love my XT8. Thank you Orion for making such great product for beginners like me!
Why was the process for adjusting the secondary mirror so different when using the laser eg. no need for a screw driver and the hex bolts were used as adjusters instead of locks
With the laser collimator you cant really do the back and forth adjustment of the secondarys since the laser doesnt care where it hits the secondary, just at what angle (that should usually be fine unless something is way out of wack).
thats why the part with the center screw is skiped there.
The three other screws serve dual purpose as "lock" and adjusters in both cases but you just never loosen them enough for the secondary to become loose when using the laser collimator.
A very useful video. Once you follow the directions and look through the cap yourself it becomes even clearer. Here's my take.
Stage 1 = is the big circle (the primary) in the middle of your field of view
Stage 2 = is the small black circle ( the secondary) in the middle of the big circle
Stage 3 = is the tiny dot in the middle of the white circle ( the hole in the collimation cap) lining up with the white donut ( the middle of the primary)
Usually only stage 3 needs adjustment.
This was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time.
Yeah nobody needs your take you're just needlessly complicating. It's already all there in the video stop trying to be a knowitall.
@@kishascape they can decide for themselves if they want to read it. Thanks for stopping by !
my XT6 didn't seem to come with a collumation cap. Is it necessary?
1:10 When I bought my XT8, it came with the 2mm allen wrench. It also came with 2 wrenches. In fact, it came every tool you'd ever need for the XT8. How nice is that?
A bazillion dollars for one of these scopes, but $0.50 for an allen wrench? You're on your own, kid!
2021 Still the best video around. Hope they can redo one in HD.
Hi Mike,
We do collimate it at the factory, but yes it can get bounced around a bit in shipping. I can tell you from experience it will probably need at most only a little tweak to the collimation, but it won't be severely out of alignment. We package them very well and there shouldn't be any problem with it being shipped. Don't worry too much about the collimation process. It's really not that difficult and just takes a little practice.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Great! It worked for me. I have just purchased an Orion XT 8, 8'' Dobsonian.
As beginner astronomer, I did not realized that some abnormal effects like _coma aberration_ had something to do with *correct collimation* . After few "googlings" I've found that it really is important and the procedure in this video was straightforward to help me solving this issue.
Thanks guys!
Hi, I have the Orion LaserMate Deluxe but fits loose in my XT10i and the dot moves around quite a bit if I touch it so I'm afraid it will just make my collimnation ever worse. Should I shim it or what? Also the darn thing rolled off my table the other day so now I'm questioning if the laser is still aligned. Any way to find out? It would be nice if it had a flat side to keep it from rolling off of things.
Hi Tim, The barrel of the laser is slightly less that 1.25" so it will fit in any 1.25" focuser. Eyepieces do the same thing, but you never notice because you're not trying to use it for any alignment purposes. What I do is turn the laser on before I place it into the focuser, then insert it and push straight down while gently tightening the locking thumbscrew. This will butt the lip of the laser against the face of the focuser, insuring proper alignment. Once that's done, don't push on the side of the laser or it could possibly get knocked out of alignment. The lip of the laser is what insures the laser is sitting correctly.
As for the beam being collimated, you can make a little jig out of two v-blocks (cut them out of some wood.) Clamp the jig down on a table and you can rotate the laser to see if the beam only rotates (aligned well), or if the beam scribes a circle (it would be out of alignment at that point).
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
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Still not sure if that's centering the laser. Pushing it up against the lip will keep that laser running parallel to the focuser, but still doesn't insure concentricity to the focuser. couldn't the locking screws still push it to one side a bit?
Dave Crocket
I am also curious, why in this video, there was no need to adjust the in and out of the secondary mirror with the laser, like you did while using the collimation cap? Why would the collimation tool being used, enable you to skip that in and out adjustment?
Dave Crocket
Hi Dave,
You're correct that pushing it in keeps it running parallel - that's the most important part. Yes, the laser may be slightly to one side of the hole, but so is your eyepiece, and anyways, the difference is negligible. The 1.25" focuser hole is probably at most 5 thousands of an inch bigger than the laser itself. So the laser would be at most 0.005" away from the center of the dot. The laser beam itself is probably 1/16" - 1/8" thick, so you'd never see that difference. As long as the laser is parallel to the focuser, you're good.
As to your second question, lasers don't really help if the secondary is too far up or down the light path (unless you want to place a centering spot on your secondary.) It will still show it collimated, even if the secondary is too far towards or away from the primary, but perfectly tilted. That's why a collimation cap is good so you can check the centering of the secondary mirror either towards or away from the mirror (along that optical axis). The reason you don't really worry about this during laser collimation is because the mirror doesn't go out of adjustment in that axis unless you take the mirror out for cleaning. After you do the adjustment with the collimation cap, you usually only have to worry about tip and tilt of both mirrors from then on. But definitely check that first with the collimation cap if the secondary is removed, or if someone accidentally messes with the central screw on the secondary holder.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
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Thanks much!! That all makes sense to me now.
In my 15 years of viewing stars, i have never done this to my scopes😂 maybe ive been viewing wrong
I have one issue with the instructions on this video with regards to using the laser collimator - you say that you only need one tool, to adjust the secondary tilt to have the laser hit the centre dot on the primary. You forget to understand that the secondary should be centred in the focuser BEFORE adjusting tilt on the secondary. I presume that you meant (and omitted) to mention to use the collimating cap FIRST, before then proceeding to use the laser.
Okay, so this is 9 years after this video, so I'm hoping that someone will get this notification. I have never had a telescope, so this is all new to me at 54 years old. I could easily see how one can know that the primary mirror is properly aligned because of the bullseye, but I couldn't quite understand how to know (visually) that the secondary mirror was in the right place, because it looked like things were off to the side when it was finished. If anyone can explain (or re-explain) how to know when you are finished with the secondary mirror, that would be much appreciated.
The main thing to watch out for is that the reflection of the primary mirror is as centered as possible relative to the secondary mirror. When the secondary is properly aligned, the reflection of the secondary mirror that you see in the primary mirror will look lopsided, this is normal because the secondary mirror is offset from the factory for optical reasons. Because of this, viewed from the side from the focuser the secondary appears as a circle, but when you see the secondary's reflection in the primary mirror, it looks off center. The main adjustments you want to make to the secondary are to get it as centered as possible relative to the focuser, and get the reflection of the primary mirror centered in the secondary. Once that's done you just adjust the primary to align the center mark with the center dot. Collimation can be fairly difficult to explain clearly over text, so feel free to get in touch for further assistance!
@@oriontelescopes Thanks!
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11.10 : BASIC BASIC question here (sorry) how do i know my secondary mirror angle is perfect? I.E. It can rotate! and I am unsure I have it precise. I have collimated both mirrors with a collimating laser to perfection but worry my mirror is not angled correctly... HELP!
Hi Jon,
If you pull out the eyepiece and look down the focuser (use the collimation cap to verify you're looking down the very center of the focuser barrel), you'll see the reflection of the primary mirror in the secondary mirror.
If the secondary mirror is rotated away from facing the focuser, you'll noticed that you can't see the entire image of the primary in the secondary. The sides of the primary closest to both tube walls will be clipped off, until you rotate the secondary until it's facing the focuser and angled correctly.
I hope that helps, thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
SUPER!!!
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I have a NEWTONIAN 150/750 and have collimated it to precision with a laser collimator but STILL SEE crosshairs!
Can you help? What am i doing wrong?
Hold the phone. ALL other collimation videos for dobs I've seen say "loosen the secondary set screw then adjust the hex screws then lock it all into place again with the center phillips." This instructional video has that exactly backwards. Trying it the way in this video does not see to be correct.
Hi Sean. The center Phillips adjustment is only used if you have to center the secondary mirror in the focuser drawtube or along the optical path in general. This particular adjustment is rarely needed - an example would be when you're re-attaching the secondary mirror assembly after completely removing it for cleaning. The actual tilt adjustments are done with the 3 hex screws. We have a separate addendum to our collimation instructions here: bit.ly/2HpC084
Thank you. Great explanation. I'll have the local shop do it the first time (the scope has been moved internationally and dented), but I think I got this after that!
Wish I watched this before I got started. Very helpful. Thanks
Hi Andres,
That sounds perfectly normal. If you have the focuser positioned at its lowest point, the tube of the focuser will block some of the reflection of the mirror. Just rack the focusing tube out until you can't see it in the reflection. When an eyepiece is inserted and focused at the night sky, the tube is far enough out to not block any of the mirror.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Hi Assassain54,
Yes, you can still collimate your telescope without the collimation cap. The cap just helps center your eye in the focuser, and if you're careful, you can do that yourself without the aid of the cap. Also, you can make your own collimation cap using an old film canister with a small hole in the center of the cap, and the bottom cut off.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
what if your telescope dosent come with a collimation cap and you can't get one
is it possible to do it with out it or the lazer?
Hi youssef,
Yes, it's still entirely possible to collimate without the cap or the laser - you'll just have to estimate when you're looking through the focuser that your eyeball is in the center of the focuser, and everything looks concentric.
You can also make your own collimation cap using those old grey film canisters. Cut the bottom off, poke a small hole in the center of the lid, and slip it into the focuser. The outside diameter of a film canister is also 1.25", same as an eyepiece.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Orion Telescopes & Binoculars thanks a lot
Hi Robert,
In a properly collimated reflector, the secondary mirror is offset in the tube. It's positioned slightly away from the focuser, and slightly down the tube. The amount of offset is determined by the focal ratio. Fast scopes have more offset. Make sure the shadow of the secondary is centered in the primary, but you don't have to worry about your eyeball reflection in the reflection of the secondary. It's a bit off towards the opening of the tube.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
THIS is why I hate dealing with a "too short" focal length Newtonian. With SHORT FOCUS Newtonians the alignment of these two mirrors IS CRITICAL! It must be precise, or your view 🤔 is not good at all.
Thus, for a Dobsonian? I limit myself to a 12 inch f/6.
Even then, with hauling such a heavy, bulky instrument in and out of the house, you will NEED to check for proper (Precise) alignment EVERY TIME !
This is why having a permanent mounting and roll-off Shed for such an instrument is so important. I encourage all Astronmers to invest in these simple, but very necessary measures. 😊
I just became the owner of an ORIÓN SPACE PROBE 130ST I need information how to collimating the instrument.
The primary mirror housing looks totally different than all the videos shown. I’m a novice.
Hi, I have a Saxon Newtonian Reflector Telescope (200/1000) and I am unsure how I would align my primary mirror. The rear of the tube simply has 3 Phillips head screws, that is it. No knobs, twist screws or pairs of adjustment pieces.
This video was very helpful. Thank you for making it.
So cleaning the primary with wd 40 is not good ?
Just kiddin. thanks heltp alot 👍
Can you explain to me why you absolutely refuse to sell a base/mount for your XT8 without proof of purchase? I inherited a telescope from my father and it doesn't have a base, I emailed your support and they are refusing to take my money for one. I don't understand.
what if my telescope mirror dont have a centre mark
Hi Ming,
You can still collimate without a center mark. It may not be quite as accurate, but just estimate where the center of the mirror is and you should be fine.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
What replacement size collimation adjustment screws and replacement locking screw size should I get for my orion starblast 6
I just bought one used had a spider and dust in it got it out but cant get it to focus hope its just not culminated. Lack of culmination would be the only reason I can't focus right.
PLEASE Can you help me with the collimation a CELESTRON 130EQ_MD with o without a laser collimator" I' am a very neW astronomer!! Well just a novice first time need a collimation!! VERY SCARE!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!
Celestron are pricks in my opinion cause then dont feature Orion products while Orion does feature Cestron products, so Orion all the way!
I have the XT6 Dobsonian and was able to get it pretty close to bull's eye by adjusting the primary mirror (Stage 3 like Jonathan Shields says below) The secondary mirror, however, does it require something other than a 2 mm elan wrench? Because the 3 openings seem to accommodate this size, but the actual screws at the back are much smaller. This is the part that remains a bit off for me. Also, I can tell my primary mirror is pretty disturbingly dirty. Also, Saturn and Venus for instance are almost double images recently even in focus. The moon is still pretty remarkably clear, but I can't seem to get a clear view of Saturn especially, or even Mars for that matter, now that they are both pretty easily accessible in the hour preceding dawn. Is that a result of collimation being off, or dirty mirrors, or both? How big of a pain is it to remove and clean the mirrors? Thanks very much in advance to anybody who may be able to help, and thank you for this video! Cheers!
Don`t even understand this. I centered the dot into the bulls eye just by turning the screw at the front off the telescope. Didn`t touch the end ( primary mirror)
I'm looking in to buying one of your beginner telescopes, but I'm not sure which one would be the best to start with.
I was thinking about the skyline 8" Dobsonain
Dobsonian*
Hello! Which telescope did you end up buying? I’m about to buy an Orion starblast 6 reflector
So my sisters co worker gave her this exact telescope for free because he just doesn’t use it anymore, the only thing missing is the finders scope. Can she just replace that with the scope she has on another telescope she got at Walmart?
Hi SV544,
It sounds like you actually have it collimated well. In a perfectly collimated reflector that has a fairly fast focal ratio (f/6 or faster), the last reflection of the shadow of the secondary will be offset towards the opening of the tube. This is an optical effect caused by one side of the secondary mirror being farther away from you eye than the other side.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Thank you for all your help, and the great videos! Keep making more vids, I enjoy learning from them all!
I've done everything wrong before watching this and I can't seem to fix what I've messed up
7:49 all my circles are aligned. Does it matter if the 3 squares inside the big white circle are not the same size or not equally spaced?
I really don't get how my telescope comes misaligned sitting in its case in the closet. I think it's a pain in the ass to do every time I want to look at something.
Actually my problem is the housing has 3 on the outside surrounding the rear body of the tube and 3 screws on the cap (plate) of the tube. Which are the locking screws and which are the focusing screws?
I believe this is the only youtube video I know that doesn't have any dislike. Not even one😳 I guess no trolls here.. Great video for sure.. Thank you so much👌🙏🙏
I am looking down the barrel of my Orion 114AZ reflector (which I recently inherited) and it's obvious to me that the mirror is dirty. Any tips on cleaning?
Big Newtonian mirrors can take quite a bit of dust before seeing any impact to the performance, so cleaning the mirrors should only be done in cases where they're significantly dirty. If you find the performance is being impacted you can look over the cleaning procedure in the instruction manual. You can read specifically about how to clean the mirror here, on the XT8 Classic manual for example, starting on page 14: bit.ly/3yWA3sU
Hi. I don't understand what he said about the secondary mirror. First I loosen the allen screws, then I adjust them, then I tighten them? Won't tightening them ruin all the adjustments I've made?
Thanks!
You should only loosen one set screw at a time, by no more than 1/4 turn and then tighten the other 2 allen screws to take up the slack. You'll want to make small adjustments like that until the tilt is correct, and by the end all 3 should be reasonably tight. You can read more about the process on his collimation document here: bit.ly/2AAELP2
If you ever need additional assistance we would be happy to help, feel free to contact us by phone at 1-800-447-1001 or by email at support@telescope.com.
I bought the XT8 last year, never checked the back holdings screws. Mine were all loose and my scope was out of collimation. This video was great, have it all aligned, now I need a clear sky!
Hi can you help me? I have a dobsonian telescope and i need your opinion if i make the right collimation. Please answer me.
Hi Christian, for assistance please call us when you have some time. You can reach us at 1-800-447-1001.
This is about 85000x harder than tuning an instrument sooooo... WHERE DO I GET A LAZER OML
Hi liveLAsunday,
In what way is the main mirror not in the center of the secondary? Do you mean when you take the laser out and look, or do you mean the returning laser beam up near the focuser is not in the center. If that's the case, then the primary mirror needs some adjustment. If it's the first case, then your secondary mirror may not be centered under the focuser left to right or up and down and it might be distorting the results.
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
I just got my xt6 and hope it doesn't get out of adjustment because I'm lost haha.But thanks for the video anyway,most people can probably do it.
Not sure if anyone is going to notice this, but I got my Skyquest XT6 last week and it doesn't seem to have a collimation cap? Is that no longer needed or something?
We made this collimation video some time ago and our products have seen some changes over the years. We have since developed better and easier to use collimation tools like our precision Collimating Eyepiece (bit.ly/3ZSETlx) or the LaserMate Deluxe II Collimator (bit.ly/2xiZJPL) and we decided to stop including the basic cap with our Dobsonians. The video is still quite helpful and covers the basic principles of collimation but we very much appreciate your feedback.
I'm scare to collimate my telescope, i'm scare to turn the secondary mirror or make it fall dawm
:(
you should always turn clockwise first.
What a delightful accent! : )
It took me a while to understand that the collimation adjustment screws on the bottom were all independent of each other. I finally got that dot in the middle! I'm in my early 50's, and this is my first telescope.
So I have a Celestron Astromaster 130 and my instructions say not to tighten or loosen the center screw on the secondary mirror but It doesn’t look like it’s centered through the focuser. What should I do
It may be a stupid question but i have a dob 8 ive collimated it took the primary mirror out cleaned it and the image without eyepeices in it is still blurry it is starting to piss me off not knowing how to fix it its a brand new telescope .
Hi Aaron, give our Tech Support a call and we'll be happy to help run you through a few troubleshooting steps to get your Dob back in order. You can reach us at 1-800-447-1001.
Hi John,
We just aren't set up for international shipping. But we do have dealers around the world that carry our products so there is a good chance there is a vendor near you who would have our products. I'm sorry we aren't able to satisfy your needs directly.
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Are there collimation knobs that fit the secondary mirror?
This video is significantly better than any other collimation video or article. Thank you so much for providing this.
Do the socket set screws have to be tightened back at the end and how about the center screw?
Great video, I picked up anXT8 yesterday and removed the primary for cleaning, secondary needed a gentle wipe too....but no I know how to collimate this correctly. Thank you for this brilliant and very useful video.
Would it be ok to tilt the open end of the tube slightly downward instead of having it horizontal so if you were to drop something in the tube it would have to roll uphill in order to contact the mirror?
How to Collimate a Telescope:
step one: live anywhere in the world except Egypt, where owning telescopes is not a crime.
step two: own a telescope.
step three: collimate.
Devil's sky tube.
Must be FEGYPT
@@mikeries8549 Oh no it's nothing religious or anything. They rely on it all the time, but it never goes past customs.
will this also work for a celestron 127eq scope?
Hi Nick,
This procedure should work for any standard Newtonian reflector, but of course, you should check the manual for your telescope for any specific details. Most all telescope manuals have a collimation procedure included.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
This guy has definitely dropped something on the mirror
took me a laserpointer for 2 dollars, a little bit of cigarette smoke and a steady hand to collimate my 114mm dob.
Best video on youtube about simple collimation. Others only confuse a beginner by introducing an exhaustive list of tools and jargons!
As good as this video is at explaining the alignment, I am amazed that of all people, those that know good optics would put out a video explaining how to have great images, on a 360 mega pixel video. Crazy.
Just to give you a little info. 360p isn't the megapixel count, but instead an indicator of the resolution with the p meaning "progressive scan". Likely the video is something like 640x360 which is around 0.23 megapixels.
Though, I do entirely agree with you. No excuse for it to be 360p.
GREAT tutorial! Thanks, it's really awsome. By the way, did you try the auto-subtitles? They are just hylarious
Currently trying to collimate our xt8 however having a hard time loosening the screws using our hex key
Which is more reliable, the cap or the laser ,because I'm having a mismatch between the two.
This is SO not clear. The diagrams should show more, what it looks like out of alignment and what it should look like. Very frustrating. My Orion came just came and the red beam collimator shows on the wall, so I guess mine didn't come factory aligned.
Hi Pedro, sorry if the video isn't clear. You can usually find additional instructions and diagrams in the instruction manual that came with your telescope. If you want an electronic version, you can find the manual for your telescope on our website: www.telescope.com
Additionally, if you need some further assistance we encourage you to contact us directly to speak with our Technical Support Department at 1-800-676-1343.
nice job on this.......I've done this in the past, worked nice for me. I have friends that are confused by collimation but this is an easy way to explain it to them.
Hi Rickytan88,
It certainly could be due to poor collimation, so it's just something you'll have to look for. If the star image slightly out of focus doesn't look symmetrical, you'll have to adjust the collimation. Collimation is pretty much the same for all reflectors, but check your manual for the exact method. Some scopes need phillips screwdrivers, some need hex wrenches, and others have thumb knobs without needing many tools.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
How do u work out the secondary offset? I accidenltly took off the secondary by lossening it to much.. cant get it back in the exact right place
This was very helpful, thank you!
So I have the short tube eq 4.5. When I turn on the laser it's a nice fine point as a laser should be. Once I slide it In the focuser it gets fuzzy and not a fine point at all. After trying to line up everything it still is fuzzy entering back into the collimator. We are talking like a 1/4 inch by 1inch fuzzy dot. My scope now doesn't focus too well.. idk maybe I have an issue with my scope. Ugh. All well I guess
Hi Ben. The fuzzy laser dot could be happening if the telescope has a built-in barlow, but we understand that the fuzzy dot and lack of center mark can make things difficult. If you're still having trouble, feel free to contact our Technical Support and we can discuss some tips and see if we can help.
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Very thorough and well demonstrated collimation. Thank u so much!
Hi NoneofYourbusiness,
Thanks for the comment. Each scope is slightly different, and we recommend reading through the manual for the particular telescope. The threads on the XT-8 locking screws are fairly course, so they unscrew quickly. But I agree, they do have to be loosened enough so they don't re-engage when using the collimation screws. And they can just barely be tightened down afterwards - no need to really clamp down which can affect the collimation.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Great video. I collimated my first ever scope in a few minutes after watching this!
This video is a lifesaver. The laser is "The way to go!". Thanks for the video. I'll keep buying Orion. Can you do one on star collimation?
Does bad collimation result in chroma shift like a refractor? Looking at jupiter tonight with xt-8, I noticed red and blue at opposite edges like a cheaper achromatic refractor. Is this the byproduct of bad collimation, they eyepiece (25mm sirius plossl) or barlow (generic short barlow)? I was under the impression that reflectors didn't have refractor- like color shifts at edges.. Thanks,
Andy
most lazers are not collimated i had one and i bunged it in the trash .. jeff ..
Hi Grannyhauenstein,
Yes, it sounds like your secondary mirror is pretty far out of alignment. Start with the secondary, and adjust it until the laser comes back onto the primary mirror. Once you get the secondary adjusted so it's hitting the center of the primary, then it's time to start adjusting the primary mirror.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
With the laser are you supposed to tighten it in the focuser like with an eyepiece or leave it loose.
Thank you for this information! By far, your video is kickass!
Do screen grabs of the pictures...It makes much more sense than listening.
I lost my collimation cap where the heck do Ibuy one orion telescopes.com only has laser collimaters. I myself think the cap is more accurate and better. I can't find one on ebay or telescopes.com please help
Hi GrungeManic,
While we don't have a simple collimation cap for sale, we do have a cheshire/sight tube available, called the Orion Collimating eyepiece (#3640). It's the same principle as a collimation cap, but with the addition of crosshairs for more accuracy. Simply go to our website and enter 3640 into the search field at the top - it will pop right up.
Thanks
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
Hi, I've recently purchased an Orion sky scanner 100. Is the primary mirror perfectly collimated, as there are no collimation screws behind it? Thanks!
Hi Ronald. The SkyScanner 100mm telescopes are factory collimated but you may find over time that it may need to be adjusted. The owner's manual should include an addendum that outlines this process, which is slightly different for fixed-primary mirrors. You can see this addendum here on our site:
www.telescope.com/assets/product_files/instructions/29530_06-14.pdf
how will you know when collimating is necessary? hopefully this procedure is not required out of the box Im new to the hobby
Hi Ben,
When you look at a star and defocus a bit, you'll see a doughnut shaped pattern. The doughnut should be concentric, with the hole right in the middle. If it's not, then the scope will require some collimation.
During the day you can also check collimation by looking through the focuser without an eyepiece and checking for concentric components. In the back of the manual is a section on collimation and what you should expect to see. i wouldn't worry too much about it. With a little practice, you'll become proficient at knowing when it needs it, and how to do it.
The scopes are collimated at the factory, and should arrive collimated or close enough to where you may only need to tweak the alignment slightly.
Thanks!
-Ken
Orion Telescopes
I just can’t seem to get the reflection of the collimation cap centred under the focuser. Any help.
I can set the secondary mirror so I can see the mirror clips and also I can set the primary mirror Center soon in the hole on the colimation cap.
Feel free to contact our Tech Support and we'll be happy to give you some additional assistance. Contact us any of the following ways:
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Tried using the laser, but my scope is so far out of line, the laser doesn't even hit the primary mirror, but it lands on side of the tube next to the mirror instead. Where do I start? Is my secondary mirror way out of alignment?