Effective immediately (June 3, 2022), customers registering for their ATF eForm 4 as “Individual” can certify their eForm 4 applications remotely! Certifying and submitted remotely for Individuals is identical to the process for customers whom registered as a Trust or Corporation. ATF is planning to update the online instructions soon, and have confirmed that the current ‘in-person’ instruction is being removed. Silencer Shop is continually working to improve the eForms process and would be glad to answer any questions. Just give us a call or DM on Facebook, Instagram or Twitter.
So far, this has been an easy process. I feel that this is a well-organized process also. Ordered March, certified within a week, fingerprints taken at dealer with the Kiosk. Even a dummy like myself was able to figure this out. Hopefully a few more weeks and I will have my approval.
You guys are top notch...your dealers are another stories. I got the ready to certify from you, did not hear from the dealer. Called them today and they have no idea what to do. They said its a "ATF glitch" don't worry about it. "Nothing to do till the tax stamp comes in." You need to educate your dealers....they are a bunch of dumbasses, at least my shop is. I'm at a loss of what to do now. I don't want dealer inaction to delay me getting my stamp. Please advise.
SilencerShop sent that email out early, it’s still not ready. They are still trying to get the SilencerShop software to work with eforms. You are still going to get your can faster than you would with a paper form.
Hi E! We appreciate your comment. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email, maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running.
Could you do a walkthrough video of what needs to happen? Maybe have a guy with a shirt that says 'Powered By' Dealer and another person with a shirt that says 'Silencer Shop Customer'. Showing each step as they need to happen and what we are supposed to be seeing on screen as we do each action would be great. I am absolutely lost and my customers are getting excited about nothing happening. Please help us.
I just went to a local gun shop with the kiosk and it was super easy. I bought my silencers and got my emails in a couple days to sign. The entire process was much smoother than I realized.
@@davidhodgins7787 oh man, I didn’t have that experience at all. I have never been to the gun shop before that had the kiosk and I have to say they were the most knowledgeable and friendly place I have ever been. They are Copper Custom Armament in Valparaiso Indiana
Shoutout to the bois! Mike and Tyler are hard at work with the rest of Team Silencer Shop with y’all awesome customers, they’re exited to getting back in front of the camera soon. Appreciate you asking Gatteries!
Hi Hops, thank you for reaching out. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) so if you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running.
I was all ready to go Dec 15. Form 4 all 100% filled out, everything paid, etc etc, 100% done. Nothing has happened since then. Hope I hear from my dealer soon, so that the clock can start actually ticking, a month later.........
Hey Stan, thanks for reaching out. By this week, all dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". Keep an eye on your inbox. Appreciate your time!
unless i missed it, i dont remember seeing anything in the process saying i needed to register at atf eforms and needing to know the pin when i go to certify. maybe add that in somewhere so people dont show up at the shop to certify and not have that ready.
Link tree link does not work, have one I bought from my local dealer and received notices about ready to certify but dealer has No idea what to do and silencer shop has not responded back to my email asking questions. Please help get this stuff straightened on dealer level, so people can get answers.
Hi Thomas, Appreciate your comment, there are continued communications with dealers. Also, LinkTree updated, thanks for tapping into that. Have a great weekend!
I think Silencer Shop needs to educate their dealers a little better. I purchased my silencer, did the fingerprints, got the ap. etc. The dealer looked at me like I just asked him to solve a multi-variable calculus problem. Perhaps a video for them might be the ticket. I walked out of the store with a “Sorry man, I don’t really know what to do.” So yeah, i don’t have a whole lot of confidence in the process. I’m wondering if I need to try and get my 1300 bucks back. Lol.
Hi G, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
@@SilencerShop Thanks for the reply. I think the big problem lies in educating the dealers. Even though a lot of these guys behind the counter like to think they are rocket scientists, the really are not. There is a reason they are sitting behind a counter making 9 bucks an hour. (No that’s not the case with all, but is is the case with mine. )These guys need to get some sort of motivation to learn and get proficient with the software and process). Perhaps SS could offer a certification course with a class on the entire process. After they complete the course, and successfully process 5 or 10 forms, SShop certifies them and pro-forms them a free suppressor. That would motivate these guys to jump in head first and learn the process. It might even motivate them to sell a few silencers. Their bosses aren’t going to give them a raise for learning it. I digitally signed my paperwork yesterday and called my dealer to certify. The first guy I talked to on the phone said:” you better talk to John I ain’t smart enough to know that”. So they sent me to John and he said: “Hey man can you call me back in 3 or 4 days. I gotta figure this out. “ I realize getting a silencer is not for the impatient. But there has got to be a better way to educate these guys.
*SBR* held Hostage day 60, and still no movement on the so called E Form. ATF wait still not started. Man I really hope they get the bugs worked out soon. This is just not what I thought it would be and how it would work out. Only good thing is a few tax stamps just showed up. Cashed 10-15-21. Yep 3 months, done on paper, ready to pick up!!!
Hi Mr. Gadget, Appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. Thank you for working with us.
@@SilencerShop I don't think you understand my comment. I have waited for 60 days and you have yet to complete the form to send to ATF. My Paperwork started in November, and you held it and are doing it as an E form. It was clearly sent in before the Dec 23 date and you held it to do E form. It is now Jan 26 and the Eform is still not sent to ATF because you never let the small dealers get the Full Auto software in a timely manner and never let them know what needed to be done . My dealer just got the software this week and last check it is still not working for them. But as I said, One happy note, my cans, Form 4's paper that went in 10-15-2021 under the paper from 4 just got approved on 1-18-22, and stamps ready for pickup. So in short, Old system paper form 4 on several cans showed up in 3 months, new system 60 days and ATF still does not have my form 4 to start the wait. Question: WHY should I need to wait 60 days or more for E form paperwork to be turned in to ATF using SS? Also, ATF told me today, Current paper forms in the system will be completed before the E Forms. That said she also told me that if I turned in a E form today, it would likely be 7 to 10 months before they get to them. After the backlog gets cleared then the time frame will be the 90 day range.
Hi ATF, thanks for the comment. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1 service remains discontinued. To be notified if that changes, please see the linktree in the description of this video. Have a great day.
Hey Sean, appreciate your time. By default, all Form 4s post-relaunch of the ATF eForms portal (Dec 23, 2021) will be electronic, unless the customer specifies otherwise in their account settings. The contact details for ATF support for their portal is in the description of this video and if you have questions about Silencer Shop's FULL AUTO™ software, please contact your dealer rep. Thank you again for connecting.
I don't understand why I must certify in person. This is actually worse than the old system as now I have to make arrangements to go visit the dealer. Before all I had to do is wait for the e-mail and sign.
Hi Brad, Appreciate you connecting. Certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/) Please see here for details about how to certify and thanks again for your time: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
I bought a can in person, at a shop with a kiosk, and selected the Electronic filing option on my SilencerShop account, but the only email ive gotten is to sign a document. Nothing about certifying or using my AFT eforms pin.
Hi WC, appreciate you asking. By this week, all dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". Thank you for working with us!
What is the typical timeframe from the day you complete the Docusign, until the Ready To Certify email? (I was under the impression this would just be 2-3 business days?) (I am around 10 days now?)
Thank you very much for this video I kind of wish you'd come out with it a week ago as I had to run around on Reddit to figure out what was going on. I very much appreciate your service and I'm looking forward to many more cans in my inventory
Appreciate your time Mym and for trusting us. We truly appreciate you and your business, and look forward to helping you in the future. Have a great day!
According to your FB post everything should’ve been good to go by the end of last week. Nothing. Bought 2 suppressors and neither dealer is ready to certify.
Hi Legit, thank you for your comment and 'ready to certify' emails have been going out and dealers are using submitting ATF eForm 4s. Keep an eye on your inbox.
@@crispusattucks6094 Hi Myself, appreciate your time. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Thank you for trusting us!
My tracker shows documents require signature is green. The next step is ready to certify but it’s not orange. Still white. It’s been this way since Tuesday. Anything I need to do on my end?
Hi Carl, Appreciate you reaching out. From what you're describing, it sounds like you completed things on your end. Note, the dealer has to also action the application for the Ready to Certify email to go out. Thanks for connecting.
Hi Chad , Great points. To provide context to ""certifying remotely"": certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minute s (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/)Please see here for details about how to certify and thanks again for your time: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
When are you going to give us access to a digital copy of our EFT formatted fingerprints??? We need this do that we can file electronically for Form 1 and Form 4. Please give us access ASAP.
Man I hope the dealers get their butts together. Called mine today and the dude told me I just needed to wait on the ATF approval… I told him no, the form hasn’t been submitted… then he told me I needed to just call silencershop. Worst experience ever. I hope they figure it out soon, they are probably just to damn incompetent to understand the Full Auto software.
Hi Aaron, Appreciate you sharing your experience at the local dealer, Silencer Shop is here for you and we’d be glad to circle back with that location to remind them of the eForm 4 process that’s been previously communicated. Please click this link and provide the necessary details and we’ll be in touch with them. forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=JLERRuHMK0qWrBKiNAL2kd9sAJXTlZpCsQC3fPfIl9ZUMFIzNE41QkQ1TjkyWkVBWTdKNUk4WkxBSS4u
Purchased 11/29, dealer has can, signed everything, form 3 complete by dealer. Waiting for "ready to certify" since. Hope they get the software soon. Most people working there aren't exactly what I'd call tech literate. I was hoping this would go a little smoother. Other dealers outside SS have been submitting e-form 4s since last week. Sad state of affairs on this rollout. Hope the shortened wait once you submit is more than enough to make up for it vs. going paper. It is the end of the week ... Do you mean next week? Like you said last week? C'mon. Edit: now submitted, let's hope for 90 days
@@SilencerShop I will take your word for it. SO please tell me this. In the email you sent it said we have not lost our place in line. SO some dealers have the software and others don't. Not one in my area has the software. How can my place in line be held when you have dealers as you say getting them to ATF and others not. My paperwork started Nov 29 as an efile from what SS CS said. How is my place in line still the same?
@@mr.gadgetfishing2134 still haven’t heard a word. I have 2 suppressors that should be ready and still nothing. On Facebook silencershop said all dealers would be good to go by the end of last week. Yeah right.
@@crispusattucks6094 That is the problem I have. They over promise and set time frames they can not back up. It would have been better to have a soft roll out or get all the dealers set up before you make the end of week, later in the week type of promise. Sounds more like a sales pitch to generate more sales with the statements about going live and approvals in 90 days when the system is not even up and running.
Im also waiting for the Certify step ... Silencer shop web status says "ready to Certify" but the local dealer says no .. that Silencer shop needs to do something. Email goes unanswered .. chat window times out after an hour of waiting for someone.. Kinda ironic all this talk of the "ATF" being messed up and slow.
Hi Z, Thanks for sharing your experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4 since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By Silencer Shop dealers have been able to tap into the Full Auto™ software since Jan 14, 2022. We've been in touch with dealers multiple times/touchpoints throughout this process and they're always welcome to speak to their dealer rep if they have questions. In regards to "Ready to Certify", when your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email with detailed instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
My dealer, now that they finally have the software, is saying the ATF has possibly rescinded approval of the "Full Auto" software and it's keeping them from getting me certified? I've been at "ready to certify" for weeks but they can't do anything yet. Any insight silencershop?
"Silencer Shop is still waiting for the atf to give the final thumbs up to allow us to begin certification. We’ll make a post on Facebook as soon as that feature is available!"
Hi Shawn, Appreciate your trust and not sure whom told you that, but it's not the case. Your dealer can reach out to their rep if they have questions, because other dealers have been submitting eForm 4s with Full AutoTM for weeks: instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/
@@SilencerShop Just talked to them and they are "in the early stages" and I "can call in tomorrow." Only had to wait 45 days from purchase to start my hopefully 90 day process. Glad we guinea pigs can iron this out for the future. Thanks for being responsive on social media, SilencerShop, I look forward to our ongoing business!
"...by the end of the week." It's the week of January 24th and not all dealers are up and running yet, per your customer support chat as of this morning.
Hi Victor, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
315 days and counting since ATF cashed the check. I have yet to receive an email stating ready to certify. Just sitting and waiting in the dark for a phone call from my FFL lol
Hi James, appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. Thank you for working with us.
Im not sure what the deal is. i went in and certified mine today and they as soon as i got home looked on my silencer shop account and the eforms file has disappeared and my status has went backwards to where the ready to certify thing is orange instead of green.
I'm still lost. My dealer said he doesn't do anything with the paperwork and then yall say the dealers are going to handle it. Which one is it? Been sitting at ready to certify for over a week now.
Hi Brandon, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
Appreciate you reaching out T! This new generation of eForms system is brand new and just beginning to process Form 4 submissions. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1 service remains discontinued. Thank you! To be notified if that should change, check out the linktree in the description of this video.
Appreciate you reaching out Gregg! Yes, if you are looking to get another suppressor, you will need to submit another Form 4. The good news is if you choose to go with eForms, the estimated approval time is 90 days! We'd be glad to help you if you have any other questions. Just send us a DM on Instagram, Tik Tok, Facebook, or Twitter.
Hi R, Great question! Yes, you can certify remotely if you filed as Trust or Corporation, details about that and the Ready To Certify email are here: ruclips.net/video/FUAbpMYjNNQ/видео.html
Hi Kal, Appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. The latest average of ATF Wait Times can be found here (RUclips disclaimer: no firearm sales on this site): www.nfatracker.com/
i've had a couple that have been sitting in "Form 4: Awaiting Review " since roughly Mid DEC.. not sure you guys should be selling how great the Eforms are constantly.. when it gives the end consumer the appearance that not much if moving in a positive direction...
It literally hasn't been live a month. Would you rather them rush through it and have mistakes, or take their time developing a great software that catches issues? Pipe down, it'll still be faster than paper.
Don't be such a negative Nancy. SS will take care of you, just relax and let them be professionals. They know exactly what they are doing and are simply constrained to the speed of the US Government. Be patient.
@@ConcealedSteel i agree with you.. i wouldn't necessarily blame them.. but i'm an American.. it's in our DNA to piss & moan and get our pitchfork when we are impatient ;) *resumes his pitchforking*
@@mattbowen1439 you are correct.. it most likely will be glorious... my only grumbly grumbles malcontent comment was meant to be "talk about the glory and roll out the victory banner when it's there. " until then...it's like new video game console availability.. hot pocket prices... and like the dragons coming in game of thrones. 😀
Dealer happy to take my payment but excuses come flying when its time for them to complete my order. Eform4 ready to certify and still nothing from them. "We have a lot in the back ready to process but we are just busy at the moment sorry blah blah" Thanks H&H Okc
I purchased my deadair nomad 30s on 12/16/2021 through silencershop under the eform option and not paper. I registered through the atf website and am waiting for the "ready to certify" email. 1: Is there a predicted time frame to when I should receive my "ready to certify" email? 2: I purchased an "individual" trust. Does that mean I have to certify in person because I have an individual trust? Or can I certify remotely because it is still a trust?
I am in the same stage of wait to certify. I reached out to the live chat ppl and wait over an hour for answers about what my next step was or if they needed something from me. They told me that the suppressor was in transit to the dealer and when it arrived (most likely mid next week) that I would get the email with directions to certify. Hope that helps
Hi Matthew, thanks for your trust in us, we appreciate you. By this week, all dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". If it's the single shot trust, then yes you can certify remotely. Have a great day and appreciate your time.
Hey There TRL! Great question: The efForm submission takes place approx 1-2 weeks after you do the Docusign (the date by which you submit the eForm is based on when the Docusign is completed, not the Form 3 date). You'll receive a "ready to certify" email and you and your dealer will certify and submit the application. That process takes 1-3 minutes (based on real world feedback from dealers whom have been submitting since Jan 3, 2022) and details are here: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
How long does it typically take to receive the Red notification signifying that your E form4 is ready to be initiated?? I checked the status online, And it’s been on “preparing E Form4” for a couple weeks now…. Any help would be appreciated
Hey Marky, Appreciate you connecting. When your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email from Silencer Shop with detailed instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
My ready to certify email came, called my dealer, went in and it took less than 5 minutes to complete. I did get a kinda hateful email from the ATF today about DO NOT SHARE YOUR LOG IN INFORMATION for eforms. I assume it is because you and your dealer log in at the same time on one computer to certify? That must trigger the ATF to send the email? Not sure.
The eform thing is cool and all but the whole EFT is a mother F’er if you purchase from anywhere without a kiosk. So you just are back to hard copy prints and mailing them in. Basically if you want complete total Efile you better go through a silencershop authorized dealer with a kiosk. I was the Guinea pig for my shop as the first to do a efile and they had no clue and weren’t given any help or instruction so here’s to hoping all was filed properly
Hi Daniel, appreciate your trust in us and your dealer tapping into the Full AutoTM software. Silencer shop accuracy rate is 99.5% the industry average is 60%. Thank you again, we appreciate you.
Okay, so, I set up a Trust and go through all that process. I order from you and send a copy to my SOT dealer. I then order the Silencer I want and the SOT dealer E-forms it?
Hi Mr. King, appreciate you reaching out and shoutout to the awesome Powered By Silencer Shop dealers. ATF eForms is the process to submit your application for the NFA tax stamp. You and your dealer participate in the certification of eForms. Check out this one minute video about what eForms is all about: ruclips.net/video/_w3TD6Xznso/видео.html
Hi Bratton, Appreciate your time, just to clarify: ATF Forms relaunched on Dec 23, 2021, so if you filed in April 2021, it wasn't eForms. Details here: ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
Can you add a suppressor to my present trust? If so what do I need to do to start the procedure? Do you have a suppressor that is built for the 6mm bullet that is not a 7.62 being used?
I got mine submitted today! The process was pretty easy once my ffl was able to get into the system. I did it over lunch and apparently the system runs a little slow because so many people are accessing it. Now I just have to wait. If the process continues to go this smooth I’ll be getting more silencers in the future. It will be interesting to see how long it actually takes.
@@DryCreekShooter Hi Cody! Thanks for connecting! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Appreciate you working with us!
@@DryCreekShooter I never got a ready to certify email.......just keep checking SS site. I checked every other day, finally it said ready to certify . Like I said I never got an email.
Hi Richard, Appreciate you working with us. The average of ATF Wait Times was 7-10 months in 2021, so you should have yours any week now. www.nfatracker.com.
Will you be offering Form 1 Eform service in the future? So I can buy Gun Trusts through you and SBR some firearms all through this process - thank you....my Eform is passed the certified point and now the waiting game - thanks!!
Hi Michael, Appreciate you connecting. At this time Silencer Shop is not processing ATF Form 1, so we wouldn't weigh in on this. If this changes and we process Form 1, we will let you know via email, please click here to be on that mailing list: linktr.ee/silencershop2
Hey Bruce, thanks for reaching out! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Have a great day!
Hi Jack, Thanks for reaching out. Not sure what "still waiting" means (i.e. if you're awaiting a Docusign, etc) and on social media, it's not recommended that you provide details about your account/order. We'd be glad to connect via phone. Thanks again and looking forward to talking.
@@SilencerShop Took 47 days for it to get to 'Ready to Certify'. Nice that you only show up here, now, 18+ days later. I've had Form 1s come back in less time than that.
I certified with my dealer today. Then the ATF sent me an email. It said that within 10 days the applicant must send in two completed fingerprint cards. If SS has my fingerprints on file does SS send them for me?
Appreciate you reaching out Ethron! This relaunched version of ATF eForm 4 occurred on December 23rd 2021. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1 service remains discontinued. To be notified if that changes, check out the linktree in the description of this video.
All of these people crying about their dealer not knowing what to do and are getting no help, yet y'all won't even come back and update your damn comments.... to let everybody know if your issue is solved and how. Maybe it would help others!!!!
Hi A J, appreciate you reaching out! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Thanks for working with us!
My eform account is my first name middle initial then last name. My SS account is first name FULL middle name then last name because SS requires I use full middle name but ATF eform account only requires middle initial. Will that cause an issue with filing an eform 4?
Hi Matt, Appreciate your comment, the Silencer Shop account doesn't require the middle name. To match it to your ATF eForms account, you can use just the middle initial in our platform. Thanks for your time!
@@SilencerShop I tried to change my SS account to middle initial and it wanted me to check a box stating under law my legal middle name is an initial only.. sooo, not sure what that means?
If we bought a silencer from another retailer and had it shipped to a place with a silencer shop kiosk, are we able to use the silencer shop process? Or do we have to buy directly from silencershop in order to access that?
I just did that. Transferred a new suppressor to my dealer and paid a transfer fee of $40. Then purchased a tax stamp and single shot trust from silencer shop online. My local dealer entered the suppressor info into the SilencerShop system and started the process.
Hey Garrett, appreciate you working with us. A Powered by Silencer Shop dealer with a kiosk can work on your processing, even if the NFA item is at a different LGS. Thanks for reaching out and have a great day!
Hey A J, thanks for connecting. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Appreciate you working with us!
@silencershop why the automated message you didn’t answer his question and responded with the same response you gave to some one else’s question about a something different lmao 😂
Hey Romatic, Appreciate you connecting. When your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email with detailed instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
Still waiting on mine to be able to certify. After using your chat I was told you are still reviewing certain submissions before even sending them to the dealers to be certified yet. (Orange Ready to Certify/Preparing for eForms). Is there a reason you are still taking so long just to send these out to the dealers? It's been 2 months now....
Hi there, Thanks for connecting. After the Silencer Shop Compliance Team checks your information (the Silencer Shop accuracy rate is 99.5% and industry average is 60%) the dealer also actions the application and then the Ready to Certify email will be sent to you. We'd be glad to speak via phone to go into specifics about your order, just give us a call.
Mine went in back in the end of Nov, Still no movement one tab said Current Stage: Form 4: Preparing for eFile, the other Ready to certify and the dealer has not been instructed what to do. Hard to believe that we are talking 90 day approvals when mine was put in 47 days ago. Yet you said you are already putting in Eforms. I guess it all has to do with the dealers, higher volume dealers get the software first. I really wonder when my dealers will get to put in E forms. Even my dealer has questioned this this new E Form sales pitch. They are saying it may take another 30 to 60 days to even get to do the E form. Would have been better to stick to paper. ATF told me Paper forms will be completed first that the E File will not jump in front of the paper forms put in for 2020 and 2021.....Said the 60-90 days will come into play at the end of 2022 to early 2023.
@@sallyann8971 Funny how they never said anything about needing to return to the dealer and the yet to be delivered software needed plus the role the dealers would now have... This all reminds me of the last time. You did the E form with silencer shop and they were all canceled then you needed to wait for a refund and start over..
@@DryCreekShooter no one knows what they’re going to do. The ATF processes batch approvals all the time. So buy seven cans today and the one that’s been lending for 250 days might clear in a month w/ the seven new ones.
Hey Gadget, thanks for reaching out. Dealers are being added daily (even during the weekend) and all should or very shortly have access to Full AutoTM. When that when your application is ready, you’ll receive and email that says “Ready to Certify” whereby you’ll then certify. Customers are tapping in as we speak (I think a couple commented on this post) and we’re sure you will be too soon!
Hi Sierra, thanks for connecting. The information on the eForm 4 is populated directly from the Docusign, so it should be correct. You can contact the ATF since the application is now in their hands. Appreciate you reaching out.
@@SilencerShop as a dealer I can’t tell you this isn’t completely correct, if you register a form 4 as an individual you are still required to do the questions over again on atf eForms when certifying. Also have been told multiple times from silencer shop even at shot show in person that you can’t contact the atf to change your form in any type of way. The only solution you’ve told us is to wait for it to get declined……
Made my first purchase through you today. My application is stuck waiting for your review?? Hunh? Had I known I had to wait on you to approve, then wait on the ATF, I would have just efiled directly through another normal dealer. I dont understand why you are doing this middleman step and delaying the process. Didn't expect this.
The Review should only take day or two, if its been longer please notify us. The compliance review is what gives us industry leading first-application approvals, our submissions are 99.5% accurate, the industry average is closer to 60%.
@@SilencerShop Makes sense. However, TurboTax software does its accuracy check instantly and 300 million people are filing taxes at the same time. Maybe there is more to it than a simple variable comparison to see if stuff matches, I dont know. But as the consumer, I just wish the choice was left to me to either have you accuracy check it or bypass this step and file immediately (passing responsibility of accuracy to the FFL). Very frustrating to have an intermediary holding up an already frustrating process when this is not something that is required.
Bought two suppressors back in November 2021 I was told I would get an email from silencer shop within two weeks just this past Friday I finally received the email from silencer shop to sign off on my form 4 Now my question is was it filed as an eform 4 I'm confused?
Hey Jason, thanks for working with us. The email you referred to could have been the docu-sign email or a ready to certify email. In this video, we outline how to know that. By logging into your Silencer Shop account, you can determine if your submission will be processed via eForms: ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
Hi Tim, appreciate you considering us. Yes, you can eForm 4 as an Individual, Trust or Corporation. Note there is a difference on how you certify and submit the eForm 4 (in person or remotely) based on how you file. Details here in this 3 minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
I got an email from my dealer letting me know I'm ready to certify my eform. I was confused because I placed my order on 11/16 and had all documents signed and completed for paper filing on 11/19. I have never received anything from silencer shop since, thought i was in for the paper long haul. This order was way before eforms came out, how am I at an eforms certification stage when my order should have been already submitted on paper? Don't get my wrong I'm excited if I can use eforms it means I'll get it faster but I can't get silencer shop to confirm. I've got an appointment to certify the eform next week at my dealer. I hope it isnt a glitch or a resubmission or something that will cause my form4 to be delayed. I guess we will find out in 90 days.
Hi there, Appreciate you sharing. If you filed via Paper application, you will receive a Docusign. This video is about eForms. To check if you filed via paper or eForms, please see here: ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
@@bobweatababyitzaboi thanks. I decided to call customer service and that was a good thing because it probably would have taken them two weeks to notice a small problem on the FFL side of the house. I received my ready to certify email an hour after calling
Hi Steven! Thanks for your trusting us. After you do the Docusign (note if you file as an Individual, you won't get a Docusign, but if you filed in any other way, you will), you don't need to take any further action until you're Ready to Certify. To the point about "how long does it usually take" the dealer also has to take action with your application for Ready to Certify email to go out. After the Silencer Shop Compliance Team checks your information (the Silencer Shop accuracy rate is 99.5% and industry average is 60%) the dealer also actions the application and then the Ready to Certify email will be sent to you. Because each dealer is independently owned and operated, we can't predict how long it'll take for their step, but other customers have said it's been < 2 weeks on average. Appreciate you connecting.
Hey there CPB, Thanks for asking! The 90 day timetable that the ATF previously communicated is from the time the application is sent to them. Appreciate you connecting.
Can you still place the order through SS and let them handle the paperwork for us? I've ordered many cans through SS, and form 1's through e-file, but this sounds like a PITA.
@@HuskyKMA my understanding was that SS would still be accepting your order the same way, but then processing your form 4 via eforms to do away with the paper. Are they saying we have to file the form 4 on our own? So we would be using eforms to submit a form 4 at home once the local dealer has the item in hand?
@@fullnelson3028 Hey There Full! Great questions. Customers can chose a paper application, by default the application will be electronic, but we're here for you based on your preferences (learn how to change those settings here: (ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html). Assuming you're going electronic, the submission takes place approx 1-2 weeks after you do the Docusign. You'll receive a "ready to certify" email and you and your dealer will certify and submit the application. That process takes 1-3 minutes (based on real world feedback from dealers whom have been submitting since Jan 3, 2022) and details are here: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
@@sallyann8971 sounds like it, unless you registered them under a trust or a corporation then you can certify remotely. I have no idea why it would be any different as an individual. Doesn’t make sense. I should be able to certify remotely because I have a pin, it’s 2022 and the internet exists.
Hey there Barnes, appreciate your trusting in us especially while you're abroad. As mentioned in the video, depending on how you filed you may be able to certify remotely. Another option is to file via paper. Please contact us if you'd like further details about either. Hope you have a great day!
@@SilencerShop hey guys thanks for the reply! I hope to get in contact with you soon as I have a few questions. I know there’s some growing pains with the new system but just know I’m a huge supporter and I love what you guys have done for the industry. Talk to you soon ☺️🤙🏼
I did buy my silencer at an elite dealer for silencer shop on 1/13/22 and certified on 1/24/22 but as for if the 4 elite dealers get priority I’m not sure hopefully you’re able to certify soon if you haven’t already.
Hi Jacob, Appreciate you reaching out. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
Here’s a HUGE ISSUE: you will not give us access to our EFT FILED PRINTS in digital format!!!! You have our prints saved in your kiosks but you won’t let us download them. Why not???
My guess is, they have invested alot of money in said kiosk. Getting the file from them would basically be like them giving business away. Why would they?
They’ve always offered to send fp cards to you for a small fee for people that what to file eform1 so I don’t see why they wouldn’t. Probably just trying to get everything rolling before they offer it. I’ve always got mine done and mailed it so no personal experience but have heard them multiple times say it.
That’s what I’ve done but the point is to speed it up by having it all sent in one package instead of them having to add manual prints to a digital application.
Hi Chris, thanks for the comment. The new version of ATF eForms is expected to approve Form 4's within 90 days. The current average for paper forms is here and we'll be keeping you updated with eForms on the same site: www.nfatracker.com
What is with all of the complaints in the comments? Stop whining about SS wasting your time, and taking so long to roll this out. If you don't like how they're doing it, file on your own. It's not that complicated. I would like to personally thank SS for your effort on making this easy for us to submit accurate applications quickly. I appreciate that the time that you're taking right now is to ensure accurate results for all of us. Well done, gents. You are great Americans. I'll be paying a few of mine a visit in the morning, my SOT has a rifle range and let's me take them out for test drive during my range time.
Hi A J, The email address for ATF support with their eForms log in is referenced in this video and the description: ruclips.net/video/bKQy52FlQJc/видео.html
Not impressed with this eform form 4 process so far. The kiosk did not like any of my finger prints. The photo the FFL employee took was crap, ATF well probably reject the submitted photo, and I would not blame them either. Now I have to wait for my FFL to familiarize him self with the "certify" process. He said "call me in a week we should have it figured out by then". Paid $35 for this service on the sales pitch the form 4 could be approved in 90 days. We well see.
Hi there, Thanks for connecting. You can change the photo yourself via the Silencer Shop app or send a selfie to us (see video here). Also, the kiosk service is free when using our site and a Powered By Silencer Shop dealer: ruclips.net/video/FUAbpMYjNNQ/видео.html
TRANSFEREES, UPON CERTIFICATION, ARE RECEIVING EMAILS STATING THAT THEY NEED TO USE THE ATTACHED COVER LETTER TO SUBMIT PAPER COPIES OF THEIR FINGERPRINT CARDS. IF THIS IS NOT TRUE, THAT ATTACHMENT NEEDS TO BE OMITTED. EVERYONE CONFUSED. - DEALER
Hi Marc, Thanks for reaching out. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
Hi Damon, appreciate you working with us and 'ready to certify' emails have been going out and dealers are using submitting ATF eForm 4s. Keep an eye on your inbox. Thank you for your time!
Hi Matt, Appreciate you reaching out. We treat each customer with care and attention to detail with their application (Silencer Shop's accuracy rate is 99.5%, industry average is 60%). We'd be glad to speak to you via phone and note there is a callback feature on that line, which you're welcome to tap into if you don't want to be on hold. Looking forward connecting.
Effective immediately (June 3, 2022), customers registering for their ATF eForm 4 as “Individual” can certify their eForm 4 applications remotely! Certifying and submitted remotely for Individuals is identical to the process for customers whom registered as a Trust or Corporation.
ATF is planning to update the online instructions soon, and have confirmed that the current ‘in-person’ instruction is being removed.
Silencer Shop is continually working to improve the eForms process and would be glad to answer any questions. Just give us a call or DM on Facebook, Instagram or Twitter.
Has it been updated to certify remotely for individuals yet?
Appreciate the hard work, I'm really excited to see how streamline the process gets once the kinks are all work out.
Yes, and glad to be interacting with the awesome customers. Have a great day S!
Didn’t age so well, lol. Not your fault obviously, but we’re now seeing paper form 4 times on e-files, as I’m sure you know
So far, this has been an easy process. I feel that this is a well-organized process also. Ordered March, certified within a week, fingerprints taken at dealer with the Kiosk. Even a dummy like myself was able to figure this out. Hopefully a few more weeks and I will have my approval.
Hi Stephen! Thank you for sharing your experience and we're glad we could make it easy for you! What suppressor are you waiting to pick up?
You guys are top notch...your dealers are another stories. I got the ready to certify from you, did not hear from the dealer. Called them today and they have no idea what to do. They said its a "ATF glitch" don't worry about it. "Nothing to do till the tax stamp comes in." You need to educate your dealers....they are a bunch of dumbasses, at least my shop is. I'm at a loss of what to do now. I don't want dealer inaction to delay me getting my stamp. Please advise.
The atf website doesn't work half the time
SilencerShop sent that email out early, it’s still not ready. They are still trying to get the SilencerShop software to work with eforms. You are still going to get your can faster than you would with a paper form.
Hi E! We appreciate your comment. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email, maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running.
Same issue here. My FFL said he has been the phone on hold for hours to figure it out. And he has a powdered by kiosk.
Same with my dealer.
Could you do a walkthrough video of what needs to happen? Maybe have a guy with a shirt that says 'Powered By' Dealer and another person with a shirt that says 'Silencer Shop Customer'. Showing each step as they need to happen and what we are supposed to be seeing on screen as we do each action would be great. I am absolutely lost and my customers are getting excited about nothing happening. Please help us.
Hi there Anthony, Thanks for your comment and hope you find this video helpful: ruclips.net/video/FUAbpMYjNNQ/видео.html
I just went to a local gun shop with the kiosk and it was super easy. I bought my silencers and got my emails in a couple days to sign. The entire process was much smoother than I realized.
Super easy except for minor details like SS not submitting our Form 4s and our local dealers not having a clue about what they are supposed to do.
@@davidhodgins7787 oh man, I didn’t have that experience at all. I have never been to the gun shop before that had the kiosk and I have to say they were the most knowledgeable and friendly place I have ever been. They are Copper Custom Armament in Valparaiso Indiana
@@CountryBoyMoto you're not even close to owning it yet. They have to submit the form 4 which is where the hangup is.
@@killacamfoo I marked the date when I signed the forms so I will reply to this thread when/if it goes through.
Thank you for your kind words, Country. We're happy the process went smoothly and we could help facilitate that. Have a great day.
When will Awkward Silence be returning? Really been looking forward to catching up with the trends
Shoutout to the bois! Mike and Tyler are hard at work with the rest of Team Silencer Shop with y’all awesome customers, they’re exited to getting back in front of the camera soon. Appreciate you asking Gatteries!
90 days is great…but I’ve been waiting over a month for the form to even be submitted to ATF…
I'm in the same boat, since December 20th.
They were holding off on sending any the traditional way as waiting a extra month will still be half The time 1+3=4 months vs traditional10-12 months
Same here bought mine on the 29 of December.
Same, Dec 28th. But still, I went in with the mentality of forgetting I bought it.
If you think it’s going to be approved in 90 days I have a bridge to sell you.
Been stuck at ready to certify for almost 2 weeks. No emails or calls
You and thousands of other people.
@@Bob_Smith19 Yeah, unfortunately
Hi Hops, thank you for reaching out. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) so if you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running.
@@SilencerShop Alright. I'll call them at the end of the week. Thanks!
I was all ready to go Dec 15. Form 4 all 100% filled out, everything paid, etc etc, 100% done. Nothing has happened since then. Hope I hear from my dealer soon, so that the clock can start actually ticking, a month later.........
Hey Stan, thanks for reaching out. By this week, all dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". Keep an eye on your inbox. Appreciate your time!
unless i missed it, i dont remember seeing anything in the process saying i needed to register at atf eforms and needing to know the pin when i go to certify. maybe add that in somewhere so people dont show up at the shop to certify and not have that ready.
Link tree link does not work, have one I bought from my local dealer and received notices about ready to certify but dealer has No idea what to do and silencer shop has not responded back to my email asking questions. Please help get this stuff straightened on dealer level, so people can get answers.
Hi Thomas, Appreciate your comment, there are continued communications with dealers. Also, LinkTree updated, thanks for tapping into that. Have a great weekend!
I think Silencer Shop needs to educate their dealers a little better. I purchased my silencer, did the fingerprints, got the ap. etc.
The dealer looked at me like I just asked him to solve a multi-variable calculus problem. Perhaps a video for them might be the ticket. I walked out of the store with a “Sorry man, I don’t really know what to do.”
So yeah, i don’t have a whole lot of confidence in the process. I’m wondering if I need to try and get my 1300 bucks back. Lol.
Hi G, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
@@SilencerShop Thanks for the reply. I think the big problem lies in educating the dealers. Even though a lot of these guys behind the counter like to think they are rocket scientists, the really are not. There is a reason they are sitting behind a counter making 9 bucks an hour. (No that’s not the case with all, but is is the case with mine. )These guys need to get some sort of motivation to learn and get proficient with the software and process). Perhaps SS could offer a certification course with a class on the entire process. After they complete the course, and successfully process 5 or 10 forms, SShop certifies them and pro-forms them a free suppressor.
That would motivate these guys to jump in head first and learn the process. It might even motivate them to sell a few silencers. Their bosses aren’t going to give them a raise for learning it.
I digitally signed my paperwork yesterday and called my dealer to certify. The first guy I talked to on the phone said:” you better talk to John I ain’t smart enough to know that”. So they sent me to John and he said: “Hey man can you call me back in 3 or 4 days. I gotta figure this out. “
I realize getting a silencer is not for the impatient. But there has got to be a better way to educate these guys.
Mine has been on preparing eforms for a while now
*SBR* held Hostage day 60, and still no movement on the so called E Form. ATF wait still not started. Man I really hope they get the bugs worked out soon. This is just not what I thought it would be and how it would work out. Only good thing is a few tax stamps just showed up. Cashed 10-15-21. Yep 3 months, done on paper, ready to pick up!!!
Hi Mr. Gadget, Appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. Thank you for working with us.
@@SilencerShop I don't think you understand my comment. I have waited for 60 days and you have yet to complete the form to send to ATF. My Paperwork started in November, and you held it and are doing it as an E form. It was clearly sent in before the Dec 23 date and you held it to do E form. It is now Jan 26 and the Eform is still not sent to ATF because you never let the small dealers get the Full Auto software in a timely manner and never let them know what needed to be done . My dealer just got the software this week and last check it is still not working for them. But as I said, One happy note, my cans, Form 4's paper that went in 10-15-2021 under the paper from 4 just got approved on 1-18-22, and stamps ready for pickup. So in short, Old system paper form 4 on several cans showed up in 3 months, new system 60 days and ATF still does not have my form 4 to start the wait.
Question: WHY should I need to wait 60 days or more for E form paperwork to be turned in to ATF using SS?
Also, ATF told me today, Current paper forms in the system will be completed before the E Forms. That said she also told me that if I turned in a E form today, it would likely be 7 to 10 months before they get to them. After the backlog gets cleared then the time frame will be the 90 day range.
EForm 1!!!
Hi ATF, thanks for the comment. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1 service remains discontinued. To be notified if that changes, please see the linktree in the description of this video. Have a great day.
Haven't checked this week but last week the damn site was down on starting a eform. I'll just continue to give my customers hard copies.
Hey Sean, appreciate your time. By default, all Form 4s post-relaunch of the ATF eForms portal (Dec 23, 2021) will be electronic, unless the customer specifies otherwise in their account settings. The contact details for ATF support for their portal is in the description of this video and if you have questions about Silencer Shop's FULL AUTO™ software, please contact your dealer rep. Thank you again for connecting.
I don't understand why I must certify in person. This is actually worse than the old system as now I have to make arrangements to go visit the dealer. Before all I had to do is wait for the e-mail and sign.
Hi Brad, Appreciate you connecting. Certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/) Please see here for details about how to certify and thanks again for your time: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
I bought a can in person, at a shop with a kiosk, and selected the Electronic filing option on my SilencerShop account, but the only email ive gotten is to sign a document. Nothing about certifying or using my AFT eforms pin.
Same here
Hi WC, appreciate you asking. By this week, all dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". Thank you for working with us!
What is the typical timeframe from the day you complete the Docusign, until the Ready To Certify email? (I was under the impression this would just be 2-3 business days?)
(I am around 10 days now?)
Thank you very much for this video I kind of wish you'd come out with it a week ago as I had to run around on Reddit to figure out what was going on. I very much appreciate your service and I'm looking forward to many more cans in my inventory
Appreciate your time Mym and for trusting us. We truly appreciate you and your business, and look forward to helping you in the future. Have a great day!
According to your FB post everything should’ve been good to go by the end of last week.
Nothing. Bought 2 suppressors and neither dealer is ready to certify.
Hi Legit, thank you for your comment and 'ready to certify' emails have been going out and dealers are using submitting ATF eForm 4s. Keep an eye on your inbox.
@@SilencerShop still waiting to certify with either of my dealers. Wasn’t the software suppose to be in their hands by now?
@@crispusattucks6094 Hi Myself, appreciate your time. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Thank you for trusting us!
Good Work Fellas and felletes
Hi Ken, we appreciate you and your kind words!
My tracker shows documents require signature is green. The next step is ready to certify but it’s not orange. Still white. It’s been this way since Tuesday. Anything I need to do on my end?
Hi Carl, Appreciate you reaching out. From what you're describing, it sounds like you completed things on your end. Note, the dealer has to also action the application for the Ready to Certify email to go out. Thanks for connecting.
Didn't realize the process changed. I'm not currently in the US to certify my form 4 and won't be back for a few months.
Hi Chad , Great points. To provide context to ""certifying remotely"": certification
can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been
taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minute s
(instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/)Please see here for details about how
to certify and thanks again for your time: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
When are you going to give us access to a digital copy of our EFT formatted fingerprints??? We need this do that we can file electronically for Form 1 and Form 4. Please give us access ASAP.
They sell them for $15 for physical. I dont think they'd ever go for digital copies... although i wish they would.
Hey David, thanks for your time and trust in us, the kiosk doesn’t export the fingerprint file.
We appreciate you and thanks again for reaching out.
more paper work for paper patriots, asking permission to exercise a right, yeah yall are free , free to be cowardice paper tigers
Man I hope the dealers get their butts together. Called mine today and the dude told me I just needed to wait on the ATF approval… I told him no, the form hasn’t been submitted… then he told me I needed to just call silencershop.
Worst experience ever. I hope they figure it out soon, they are probably just to damn incompetent to understand the Full Auto software.
Hi Aaron, Appreciate you sharing your experience at the local dealer, Silencer Shop is here for you and we’d be glad to circle back with that location to remind them of the eForm 4 process that’s been previously communicated. Please click this link and provide the necessary details and we’ll be in touch with them. forms.office.com/pages/responsepage.aspx?id=JLERRuHMK0qWrBKiNAL2kd9sAJXTlZpCsQC3fPfIl9ZUMFIzNE41QkQ1TjkyWkVBWTdKNUk4WkxBSS4u
Purchased 11/29, dealer has can, signed everything, form 3 complete by dealer. Waiting for "ready to certify" since. Hope they get the software soon. Most people working there aren't exactly what I'd call tech literate. I was hoping this would go a little smoother. Other dealers outside SS have been submitting e-form 4s since last week. Sad state of affairs on this rollout. Hope the shortened wait once you submit is more than enough to make up for it vs. going paper. It is the end of the week ... Do you mean next week? Like you said last week? C'mon.
Edit: now submitted, let's hope for 90 days
Not sure next week will ever happen. The last several RUclips Videos said Next Week......... Later in the week,,,,,
Hi Mr Gadget, Dealers are submitting RN: instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/
@@SilencerShop I will take your word for it. SO please tell me this. In the email you sent it said we have not lost our place in line. SO some dealers have the software and others don't. Not one in my area has the software. How can my place in line be held when you have dealers as you say getting them to ATF and others not. My paperwork started Nov 29 as an efile from what SS CS said. How is my place in line still the same?
@@mr.gadgetfishing2134 still haven’t heard a word. I have 2 suppressors that should be ready and still nothing. On Facebook silencershop said all dealers would be good to go by the end of last week. Yeah right.
@@crispusattucks6094 That is the problem I have. They over promise and set time frames they can not back up. It would have been better to have a soft roll out or get all the dealers set up before you make the end of week, later in the week type of promise. Sounds more like a sales pitch to generate more sales with the statements about going live and approvals in 90 days when the system is not even up and running.
Im also waiting for the Certify step ... Silencer shop web status says "ready to Certify" but the local dealer says no .. that Silencer shop needs to do something. Email goes unanswered .. chat window times out after an hour of waiting for someone.. Kinda ironic all this talk of the "ATF" being messed up and slow.
Hi Z, Thanks for sharing your experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4 since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By Silencer Shop dealers have been able to tap into the Full Auto™ software since Jan 14, 2022. We've been in touch with dealers multiple times/touchpoints throughout this process and they're always welcome to speak to their dealer rep if they have questions. In regards to "Ready to Certify", when your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email with detailed instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
My dealer, now that they finally have the software, is saying the ATF has possibly rescinded approval of the "Full Auto" software and it's keeping them from getting me certified? I've been at "ready to certify" for weeks but they can't do anything yet. Any insight silencershop?
"Silencer Shop is still waiting for the atf to give the final thumbs up to allow us to begin certification. We’ll make a post on Facebook as soon as that feature is available!"
Hi Shawn, Appreciate your trust and not sure whom told you that, but it's not the case. Your dealer can reach out to their rep if they have questions, because other dealers have been submitting eForm 4s with Full AutoTM for weeks:
instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/
@@SilencerShop that would be great news, but if I call them and they tell me the same story... either I call them liars or...? What options do I have?
@@SilencerShop Just talked to them and they are "in the early stages" and I "can call in tomorrow."
Only had to wait 45 days from purchase to start my hopefully 90 day process. Glad we guinea pigs can iron this out for the future.
Thanks for being responsive on social media, SilencerShop, I look forward to our ongoing business!
"...by the end of the week."
It's the week of January 24th and not all dealers are up and running yet, per your customer support chat as of this morning.
Hi Victor, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
315 days and counting since ATF cashed the check. I have yet to receive an email stating ready to certify. Just sitting and waiting in the dark for a phone call from my FFL lol
Hi James, appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. Thank you for working with us.
How can i add add the form 4 to my class 1ffl?
Im not sure what the deal is. i went in and certified mine today and they as soon as i got home looked on my silencer shop account and the eforms file has disappeared and my status has went backwards to where the ready to certify thing is orange instead of green.
Do I need the trust if I'm gonna be the only one using the silencer? Or can I just get the tax stamp for the silencer/sbr?
finally got my tax stamp approval for my eforms suppressor at 195 days
Welcome to the Silencer Shop fam! We're glad to have you in the NFA game
I'm still lost. My dealer said he doesn't do anything with the paperwork and then yall say the dealers are going to handle it. Which one is it? Been sitting at ready to certify for over a week now.
Hi Brandon, Thanks for sharing that experience. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
@@SilencerShop I got it and my dealer finally figured out how to do it. I appreciate it!
Can I submit a form1 at a SS kiosk??
Appreciate you reaching out T! This new generation of eForms system is brand new and just beginning to process Form 4 submissions. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1 service remains discontinued. Thank you! To be notified if that should change, check out the linktree in the description of this video.
I just bought a suppressor started the form 4. If I wasn’t another one in a few months (90) days do I have to repeat this process again?
Appreciate you reaching out Gregg! Yes, if you are looking to get another suppressor, you will need to submit another Form 4. The good news is if you choose to go with eForms, the estimated approval time is 90 days! We'd be glad to help you if you have any other questions. Just send us a DM on Instagram, Tik Tok, Facebook, or Twitter.
I am in Ready to Certify in Orange via trust route, does the email come from SS and I just do it remotely on the ATF website with my username and PIN?
Hi R, Great question! Yes, you can certify remotely if you filed as Trust or Corporation, details about that and the Ready To Certify email are here: ruclips.net/video/FUAbpMYjNNQ/видео.html
this is why i have a can in the shop going on 7 yrs now, i'll never figure this out : P
Hi Kal, Appreciate you reaching out. Paper applications submitted prior to the relaunch (Dec 23, 2021) of ATF eForm 4 will continue with their original plan. ATF has said there will be a one-year delay for anyone that withdraws a paper application to file via eForms. The latest average of ATF Wait Times can be found here (RUclips disclaimer: no firearm sales on this site):
www.nfatracker.com/
Do you have discounted prices or deals at the show?
i've had a couple that have been sitting in "Form 4: Awaiting Review " since roughly Mid DEC.. not sure you guys should be selling how great the Eforms are constantly.. when it gives the end consumer the appearance that not much if moving in a positive direction...
It literally hasn't been live a month. Would you rather them rush through it and have mistakes, or take their time developing a great software that catches issues? Pipe down, it'll still be faster than paper.
Don't be such a negative Nancy. SS will take care of you, just relax and let them be professionals. They know exactly what they are doing and are simply constrained to the speed of the US Government. Be patient.
@@ConcealedSteel i agree with you.. i wouldn't necessarily blame them.. but i'm an American.. it's in our DNA to piss & moan and get our pitchfork when we are impatient ;) *resumes his pitchforking*
@@mattbowen1439 not if it takes months to even submit.
@@mattbowen1439 you are correct.. it most likely will be glorious... my only grumbly grumbles malcontent comment was meant to be "talk about the glory and roll out the victory banner when it's there. " until then...it's like new video game console availability.. hot pocket prices... and like the dragons coming in game of thrones.
😀
Dealer happy to take my payment but excuses come flying when its time for them to complete my order. Eform4 ready to certify and still nothing from them. "We have a lot in the back ready to process but we are just busy at the moment sorry blah blah" Thanks H&H Okc
Thanks for making us aware of this, I will create a ticket to have our dealer team assist.
Should I see my form 4 in my ATF account after I certify?
Good question, Shelby, eForm 4s will not show in your ATF eForm account because your dealer is the transferor. - Chase
I purchased my deadair nomad 30s on 12/16/2021 through silencershop under the eform option and not paper. I registered through the atf website and am waiting for the "ready to certify" email.
1: Is there a predicted time frame to when I should receive my "ready to certify" email?
2: I purchased an "individual" trust. Does that mean I have to certify in person because I have an individual trust? Or can I certify remotely because it is still a trust?
I am in the same stage of wait to certify. I reached out to the live chat ppl and wait over an hour for answers about what my next step was or if they needed something from me. They told me that the suppressor was in transit to the dealer and when it arrived (most likely mid next week) that I would get the email with directions to certify. Hope that helps
Individual and trust are not the same thing. You sure you didn’t purchase a single shot trust? This is not the same as filing as an individual.
@@Bob_Smith19 you are correct, my bad. I did purchase a single shot.
Hi Matthew, thanks for your trust in us, we appreciate you. By this week, all dealers should have
access to the Full Auto™ software for the submission of eForm 4s. When your application is ready
to be certified, you'll get an email that says "ready to certify". If it's the single shot trust, then yes
you can certify remotely. Have a great day and appreciate your time.
If I bought a can from Silencer Shop and my dealer has received my can (form 3) do I need to do anything else?
Yes, you wait in purgatory until u get that glorious call.
@@fireboyrasmussen1976 Wait in purgatory until SS gets off their dead ass and submits the form 4. THEN your real wait starts.
Hey There TRL! Great question: The efForm submission takes place approx 1-2 weeks after you do the Docusign (the date by which you submit the eForm is based on when the Docusign is completed, not the Form 3 date). You'll receive a "ready to certify" email and you and your dealer will certify and submit the application. That process takes 1-3 minutes (based on real world feedback from dealers whom have been submitting since Jan 3, 2022) and details are here: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
@@SilencerShop Got it thanks the dealer hit me up last weekend to certify, got an email within 30 sec from the ATF about my submission
How long does it typically take to receive the Red notification signifying that your E form4 is ready to be initiated?? I checked the status online, And it’s been on “preparing E Form4” for a couple weeks now…. Any help would be appreciated
hitting the "90 day" window who has actually met that or less deadline ?
Does the “ready to certify email” come from SilencerShop or your dealer?
Hey Marky, Appreciate you connecting. When your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email from Silencer Shop with detailed
instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
My ready to certify email came, called my dealer, went in and it took less than 5 minutes to complete. I did get a kinda hateful email from the ATF today about DO NOT SHARE YOUR LOG IN INFORMATION for eforms. I assume it is because you and your dealer log in at the same time on one computer to certify? That must trigger the ATF to send the email? Not sure.
The eform thing is cool and all but the whole EFT is a mother F’er if you purchase from anywhere without a kiosk. So you just are back to hard copy prints and mailing them in. Basically if you want complete total Efile you better go through a silencershop authorized dealer with a kiosk.
I was the Guinea pig for my shop as the first to do a efile and they had no clue and weren’t given any help or instruction so here’s to hoping all was filed properly
Hi Daniel, appreciate your trust in us and your dealer tapping into the Full AutoTM software.
Silencer shop accuracy rate is 99.5% the industry average is 60%. Thank you again, we appreciate
you.
Okay, so, I set up a Trust and go through all that process. I order from you and send a copy to my SOT dealer. I then order the Silencer I want and the SOT dealer E-forms it?
Hi Mr. King, appreciate you reaching out and shoutout to the awesome Powered By Silencer Shop
dealers. ATF eForms is the process to submit your application for the NFA tax stamp. You and your
dealer participate in the certification of eForms. Check out this one minute video about what eForms
is all about: ruclips.net/video/_w3TD6Xznso/видео.html
I just wish the atf worked faster. E filed last April and as of 5 minutes ago, it is still pending.
Hi Bratton, Appreciate your time, just to clarify: ATF Forms relaunched on Dec 23, 2021, so if you filed in April 2021, it wasn't eForms. Details here: ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
If you have individual NFA items can you EFORM-4 your NFA items to a trust yourself or do you need a dealer?
Hi Andy, Thanks for connecting, eForm 4s must be submitted by an FFL/SOT. Appreciate your time.
Can you add a suppressor to my present trust? If so what do I need to do to start the procedure? Do you have a suppressor that is built for the 6mm bullet that is not a 7.62 being used?
Hi Susan, Thanks for connecting! TBD which Trust you originally filed, yes, that is possible. We'd be glad to talk about all of youe Qs via phone.
I went to the linktree link and it said your info had violated something and was taken down
Hi James! Thanks for tapping in, link updated!
I got mine submitted today! The process was pretty easy once my ffl was able to get into the system. I did it over lunch and apparently the system runs a little slow because so many people are accessing it. Now I just have to wait. If the process continues to go this smooth I’ll be getting more silencers in the future. It will be interesting to see how long it actually takes.
It has not been a smooth process for me. Been so freaking frustrating. Still waiting for my “ready to certify” email. 🤦♂️
Hey Colby, appreciate you sharing your experience. Thanks for trusting us!
@@DryCreekShooter Hi Cody! Thanks for connecting! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Appreciate you working with us!
@@SilencerShop ok and I still haven’t received the ready to certify email. Why is it taking so long to receive it?
@@DryCreekShooter I never got a ready to certify email.......just keep checking SS site. I checked every other day, finally it said ready to certify . Like I said I never got an email.
Don’t see how they can turn apps in 90days when I have been waiting 11 months as of now.
Hi Richard, Appreciate you working with us. The average of ATF Wait Times was 7-10 months in 2021, so you should have yours any week now. www.nfatracker.com.
Will you be offering Form 1 Eform service in the future? So I can buy Gun Trusts through you and SBR some firearms all through this process - thank you....my Eform is passed the certified point and now the waiting game - thanks!!
Hi Michael, Appreciate you connecting. At this time Silencer Shop is not processing ATF Form 1, so we wouldn't weigh in on this. If this changes and we process Form 1, we will let you know via email, please click here to be on that mailing list: linktr.ee/silencershop2
Mine has been stuck at Ready to Certify for a few weeks now.........any idea then things will speed up a bit?
Hey Bruce, thanks for reaching out! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™ (dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Have a great day!
41 days.. still waiting on silencer shop’s side.
Mine has been in Preparing for eForms (Orange Ready to Certify) for 2 months now. At this point a paper form would have been faster.
Hi Jack, Thanks for reaching out. Not sure what "still waiting" means (i.e. if you're awaiting a Docusign, etc) and on social media, it's not recommended that you provide details about your account/order. We'd be glad to connect via phone. Thanks again and looking forward to talking.
@@SilencerShop Took 47 days for it to get to 'Ready to Certify'. Nice that you only show up here, now, 18+ days later. I've had Form 1s come back in less time than that.
I certified with my dealer today. Then the ATF sent me an email. It said that within 10 days the applicant must send in two completed fingerprint cards. If SS has my fingerprints on file does SS send them for me?
Hey Bruce, Great question. Yes, fingerprints in the kiosk are used as part of the eForms process. Appreciate you trusting us!
Can you guys help with a form 1.
Appreciate you reaching out Ethron! This relaunched version of ATF eForm 4
occurred on December 23rd 2021. As we focus on eForm 4, Silencer Shop’s Form 1
service remains discontinued. To be notified if that changes, check out the linktree
in the description of this video.
All of these people crying about their dealer not knowing what to do and are getting no help, yet y'all won't even come back and update your damn comments.... to let everybody know if your issue is solved and how. Maybe it would help others!!!!
My orders say "waiting on certification" on SS website but I've got no email and haven't heard jack from my dealer.
Hi A J, appreciate you reaching out! All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) so when you get the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days to get acclimated/up and running. Thanks for working with us!
My eform account is my first name middle initial then last name. My SS account is first name FULL middle name then last name because SS requires I use full middle name but ATF eform account only requires middle initial. Will that cause an issue with filing an eform 4?
That is a great question as mine is the same
@@sallyann8971 Hi Sally, Good to hear from you again, we replied to your other comment. Silencer Shop account does not require a middle name.
Hi Matt, Appreciate your comment, the Silencer Shop account doesn't require the middle name. To match it to your ATF eForms account, you can use just the middle initial in our platform. Thanks for your time!
@@SilencerShop I tried to change my SS account to middle initial and it wanted me to check a box stating under law my legal middle name is an initial only.. sooo, not sure what that means?
@@SilencerShop thank you
If we bought a silencer from another retailer and had it shipped to a place with a silencer shop kiosk, are we able to use the silencer shop process? Or do we have to buy directly from silencershop in order to access that?
I just did that. Transferred a new suppressor to my dealer and paid a transfer fee of $40. Then purchased a tax stamp and single shot trust from silencer shop online. My local dealer entered the suppressor info into the SilencerShop system and started the process.
Hey Garrett, appreciate you working with us. A Powered by Silencer Shop dealer with a kiosk
can work on your processing, even if the NFA item is at a different LGS. Thanks for reaching out and
have a great day!
What the heck ? Now one of my suppressors shows "certified and waiting on ATF approval" but I never even heard from my dealer? WTH?
Hey A J, thanks for connecting. All dealers should have access to the Full Auto™(dealers are added every day included Sunday) since you got the "ready to certify" email (an example of it is in the video), maybe give them a couple of days
to get acclimated/up and running. Appreciate you working with us!
@silencershop why the automated message you didn’t answer his question and responded with the same response you gave to some one else’s question about a something different lmao 😂
@@SilencerShop I never got an email. I checked my account and it said that. Now it has changed to "tax stamp cashed" like SS submitted it by paper
Faster than ever... 5 months and waiting LOL
Applied for my silencer 5 days ago and I have been stuck on “ready to certify” since then. Is this something that I need to do, my gun store or SS?
Hey Romatic, Appreciate you connecting. When your eForm 4 is prepared, you’ll receive a “Ready to Certify” email with detailed instructions for next steps. You’ll also notice a similar status change in your Silencer Shop account to “Ready to Certify” When you see this, please contact your dealer to
set a time to certify. The certification can be done remotely. And from real world feedback from submissions that have been taking place for the past few weeks, the certification only takes 1-3 minutes (instagram.com/p/CYuJe7tPyaU/ Details in this three minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
Still waiting on mine to be able to certify. After using your chat I was told you are still reviewing certain submissions before even sending them to the dealers to be certified yet. (Orange Ready to Certify/Preparing for eForms). Is there a reason you are still taking so long just to send these out to the dealers? It's been 2 months now....
good boy, keep waiting and asking for your freedoms.
remember you are only free to do as you are told,
heres a treat Fido
Hi there, Thanks for connecting. After the Silencer Shop Compliance Team checks your information (the Silencer Shop accuracy rate is 99.5% and industry average is 60%) the dealer also actions the application and then the Ready to Certify email will be sent to you. We'd be glad to speak via phone to go into specifics about your order, just give us a call.
Mine went in back in the end of Nov, Still no movement one tab said Current Stage: Form 4: Preparing for eFile, the other Ready to certify and the dealer has not been instructed what to do. Hard to believe that we are talking 90 day approvals when mine was put in 47 days ago. Yet you said you are already putting in Eforms. I guess it all has to do with the dealers, higher volume dealers get the software first. I really wonder when my dealers will get to put in E forms. Even my dealer has questioned this this new E Form sales pitch. They are saying it may take another 30 to 60 days to even get to do the E form. Would have been better to stick to paper. ATF told me Paper forms will be completed first that the E File will not jump in front of the paper forms put in for 2020 and 2021.....Said the 60-90 days will come into play at the end of 2022 to early 2023.
@@sallyann8971 Funny how they never said anything about needing to return to the dealer and the yet to be delivered software needed plus the role the dealers would now have... This all reminds me of the last time. You did the E form with silencer shop and they were all canceled then you needed to wait for a refund and start over..
Is this true? So they won’t even touch e forms until they are done processing paper forms?
@@DryCreekShooter no one knows what they’re going to do. The ATF processes batch approvals all the time. So buy seven cans today and the one that’s been lending for 250 days might clear in a month w/ the seven new ones.
Hey Gadget, thanks for reaching out. Dealers are being added daily (even during the weekend) and all should or very shortly have access to Full AutoTM. When that when your application is ready, you’ll receive and email that says “Ready to Certify” whereby you’ll then certify. Customers are tapping in as we speak (I think a couple commented on this post) and we’re sure you will be too soon!
How can we retract a a Form that was certified and submitted due to incorrect info?
Hi Sierra, thanks for connecting. The information on the eForm 4 is populated directly from the Docusign, so it should be correct. You can contact the ATF since the application is now in their hands. Appreciate you reaching out.
@@SilencerShop as a dealer I can’t tell you this isn’t completely correct, if you register a form 4 as an individual you are still required to do the questions over again on atf eForms when certifying. Also have been told multiple times from silencer shop even at shot show in person that you can’t contact the atf to change your form in any type of way. The only solution you’ve told us is to wait for it to get declined……
Made my first purchase through you today. My application is stuck waiting for your review?? Hunh? Had I known I had to wait on you to approve, then wait on the ATF, I would have just efiled directly through another normal dealer. I dont understand why you are doing this middleman step and delaying the process. Didn't expect this.
The Review should only take day or two, if its been longer please notify us. The compliance review is what gives us industry leading first-application approvals, our submissions are 99.5% accurate, the industry average is closer to 60%.
@@SilencerShop Makes sense. However, TurboTax software does its accuracy check instantly and 300 million people are filing taxes at the same time. Maybe there is more to it than a simple variable comparison to see if stuff matches, I dont know. But as the consumer, I just wish the choice was left to me to either have you accuracy check it or bypass this step and file immediately (passing responsibility of accuracy to the FFL). Very frustrating to have an intermediary holding up an already frustrating process when this is not something that is required.
Bought two suppressors back in November 2021 I was told I would get an email from silencer shop within two weeks just this past Friday I finally received the email from silencer shop to sign off on my form 4 Now my question is was it filed as an eform 4 I'm confused?
Hey Jason, thanks for working with us. The email you referred to could have been the docu-sign
email or a ready to certify email. In this video, we outline how to know that. By logging into
your Silencer Shop account, you can determine if your submission will be processed via eForms:
ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
So, me first eFile was a individual form 1 suppressor. If I purchase a suppressor through y’all, can I purchase it as a trust?
Hi Tim, appreciate you considering us. Yes, you can eForm 4 as an Individual, Trust or Corporation. Note there is a difference on how you certify and submit the eForm 4 (in person or remotely) based on how you file. Details here in this 3 minute video: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
I got an email from my dealer letting me know I'm ready to certify my eform. I was confused because I placed my order on 11/16 and had all documents signed and completed for paper filing on 11/19. I have never received anything from silencer shop since, thought i was in for the paper long haul. This order was way before eforms came out, how am I at an eforms certification stage when my order should have been already submitted on paper? Don't get my wrong I'm excited if I can use eforms it means I'll get it faster but I can't get silencer shop to confirm. I've got an appointment to certify the eform next week at my dealer. I hope it isnt a glitch or a resubmission or something that will cause my form4 to be delayed. I guess we will find out in 90 days.
Hi there, Appreciate you sharing. If you filed via Paper application, you will receive a Docusign. This video is about eForms. To check if you filed via paper or eForms, please see here: ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html
How long does it usually take to get you’re ready to certify email? I have gotten my DocuSign and it’s been 3 days since then.
Mine took about 2 weeks
@@bobweatababyitzaboi thanks. I decided to call customer service and that was a good thing because it probably would have taken them two weeks to notice a small problem on the FFL side of the house. I received my ready to certify email an hour after calling
Hi Steven! Thanks for your trusting us. After you do the Docusign (note if you file as an Individual, you won't get a Docusign, but if you filed in any other way, you will), you don't need to take any further action until you're Ready to Certify. To the point about "how long does it usually take" the dealer also has to take action with your application for Ready to Certify email to go out. After the Silencer Shop Compliance Team checks your information (the Silencer Shop accuracy rate is 99.5% and industry average is 60%) the dealer also actions the application and then the Ready to Certify email will be sent to you. Because each dealer is independently owned and operated, we can't predict how long it'll take for their step, but other customers have said it's been < 2 weeks on average. Appreciate you connecting.
@@SilencerShop when does the 90 day clock start? After certification?
Hey there CPB, Thanks for asking! The 90 day timetable that the ATF previously communicated is from the time the application is sent to them. Appreciate you connecting.
Do I pay for the tax stamp at checkout on SS site?
Hello Indica, thanks for trusting us and yes. Appreciate you reaching out.
Can you still place the order through SS and let them handle the paperwork for us? I've ordered many cans through SS, and form 1's through e-file, but this sounds like a PITA.
Yep, there's an option to submit paper instead of eFile.
@@HuskyKMA my understanding was that SS would still be accepting your order the same way, but then processing your form 4 via eforms to do away with the paper. Are they saying we have to file the form 4 on our own? So we would be using eforms to submit a form 4 at home once the local dealer has the item in hand?
@@fullnelson3028 Hey There Full! Great questions. Customers can chose a paper application, by default the application will be electronic, but we're here for you based on your preferences (learn how to change those settings here: (ruclips.net/video/Jcyfig_OVzc/видео.html). Assuming you're going electronic, the submission takes place approx 1-2 weeks after you do the Docusign. You'll receive a "ready to certify" email and you and your dealer will certify and submit the application. That process takes 1-3 minutes (based on real world feedback from dealers whom have been submitting since Jan 3, 2022) and details are here: ruclips.net/video/Y9up_5SuJPo/видео.html
I bought cans as an individual while deployed in hopes to burn up time while gone. BUT…having to be at the dealer in person squashed that 😐
So I'll have to go back to my dealer??
@@sallyann8971 sounds like it, unless you registered them under a trust or a corporation then you can certify remotely. I have no idea why it would be any different as an individual. Doesn’t make sense. I should be able to certify remotely because I have a pin, it’s 2022 and the internet exists.
Hey there Barnes, appreciate your trusting in us especially while you're abroad. As mentioned in
the video, depending on how you filed you may be able to certify remotely. Another option is to file
via paper. Please contact us if you'd like further details about either. Hope you have a great day!
@@SilencerShop hey guys thanks for the reply! I hope to get in contact with you soon as I have a few questions. I know there’s some growing pains with the new system but just know I’m a huge supporter and I love what you guys have done for the industry. Talk to you soon ☺️🤙🏼
Is it true @silencershop is giving priority eform filing to its top dealers?
I did buy my silencer at an elite dealer for silencer shop on 1/13/22 and certified on 1/24/22 but as for if the 4 elite dealers get priority I’m not sure hopefully you’re able to certify soon if you haven’t already.
Hi Jacob, Appreciate you reaching out. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
Here’s a HUGE ISSUE: you will not give us access to our EFT FILED PRINTS in digital format!!!! You have our prints saved in your kiosks but you won’t let us download them. Why not???
My guess is, they have invested alot of money in said kiosk. Getting the file from them would basically be like them giving business away. Why would they?
They’ve always offered to send fp cards to you for a small fee for people that what to file eform1 so I don’t see why they wouldn’t. Probably just trying to get everything rolling before they offer it. I’ve always got mine done and mailed it so no personal experience but have heard them multiple times say it.
Money
Just buy the cards and ink off amazon for like $10. Very easy to do. Only thing bad is supporting Amazon.
That’s what I’ve done but the point is to speed it up by having it all sent in one package instead of them having to add manual prints to a digital application.
I need Kennewick Ranch and Home added asap... my bogo is on the line
Hi Will, Thanks for reaching out. You can use the Form 4 you received via Docusign for the BOGO. Appreciate your time.
Well hell yeah
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90 day wait time? Lets hope so!
Hi Chris, thanks for the comment. The new version of ATF eForms is expected to approve Form 4's within 90 days. The current average for paper forms is here and we'll be keeping you updated with eForms on the same site: www.nfatracker.com
I hope you are right.
Hey there Robert, we appreciate you trusting us!
Does the FFL or dealer that I'm picking the silencer up from fill out the transferor portion on the eform 4?
Yes that is correct, the FFL is the transferor for the Form 4.
Dig it! Once I receive my 1st of two suppressors one 9mm & 5.56, I'll be adding more this coming year to try this new thing they call eform 4 😉
Awesome! Thank you for working with us Mr. Rand. We look forward to assisting you in the future. Appreciate your time.
What is with all of the complaints in the comments? Stop whining about SS wasting your time, and taking so long to roll this out. If you don't like how they're doing it, file on your own. It's not that complicated. I would like to personally thank SS for your effort on making this easy for us to submit accurate applications quickly. I appreciate that the time that you're taking right now is to ensure accurate results for all of us. Well done, gents. You are great Americans.
I'll be paying a few of mine a visit in the morning, my SOT has a rifle range and let's me take them out for test drive during my range time.
Yah I’m at 215 days on mine. Prob got 2-3 months still until it’s out of jail. Anything that cuts that time down is good.
Linktree not working, dayum.
Hi Lex! We got you, link updated! Appreciate your time!
@@SilencerShop swag
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Bought and did my fingerprints for suppressor yesterday. Already got my docusign. Hardly even 24 hours later. Can’t beat that
Yep my forms were signed Nov 29 and still no movement.... Dont plan on it being fast.
Yeah mine has been sitting at preparing form 4 for a couple weeks now. 😴
Darn (
@@mr.gadgetfishing2134 you were supposed Give me good news )
Sry, you'll be waiting for your ready to certify stage for a while before the clock even starts ticking
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Hi Joe! Appreciate you letting us know, updated! Have a great weekend!
Did you say 90 days?!!
Hi William, thanks for reaching out and yes! We do our best to get your can, in your hands, faster than ever. Appreciate your time!
Now the ATF eforms site is down. What a disaster 🤣😂🤣
Hi A J, The email address for ATF support with their eForms log in is referenced in this video and the description: ruclips.net/video/bKQy52FlQJc/видео.html
Not impressed with this eform form 4 process so far. The kiosk did not like any of my finger prints. The photo the FFL employee took was crap, ATF well probably reject the submitted photo, and I would not blame them either. Now I have to wait for my FFL to familiarize him self with the "certify" process. He said "call me in a week we should have it figured out by then". Paid $35 for this service on the sales pitch the form 4 could be approved in 90 days. We well see.
Hi there, Thanks for connecting. You can change the photo yourself via the Silencer Shop app or send a selfie to us (see video here). Also, the kiosk service is free when using our site and a Powered By Silencer Shop dealer: ruclips.net/video/FUAbpMYjNNQ/видео.html
@@SilencerShop My dealer (FFL) charged me $35 for the use of the kiosk
INSTRUCTION THAT THE TRANSFEREE NEEDS TO SEND THE L/E LETTER NEEDS TO BE REINFORCED.
TRANSFEREES, UPON CERTIFICATION, ARE RECEIVING EMAILS STATING THAT THEY NEED TO USE THE ATTACHED COVER LETTER TO SUBMIT PAPER COPIES OF THEIR FINGERPRINT CARDS. IF THIS IS NOT TRUE, THAT ATTACHMENT NEEDS TO BE OMITTED. EVERYONE CONFUSED. - DEALER
Hi Marc, Thanks for reaching out. Silencer Shop has been facilitating the submission of eForm 4s since Jan 3, 2022 and all Powered By dealers have the ability to do so since Jan 14, 2022. If you’re able to send a direct message to us on Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok or Twitter, we’d be glad to remedy your experience.
I used silencer shop in February 2021 and still waiting for my silencers. It’s ridiculous in my opinion.
Hi Damon, appreciate you working with us and 'ready to certify' emails have been
going out and dealers are using submitting ATF eForm 4s. Keep an eye on your inbox.
Thank you for your time!
When will you start answering your phones again. I have been calling almost daily for two months now with nobody ever answering.
Hi Matt, Appreciate you reaching out. We treat each customer with care and attention to detail with their application (Silencer Shop's accuracy rate is 99.5%, industry average is 60%). We'd be glad to speak to you via phone and note there is a callback feature on that line, which you're welcome to tap into if you don't want to be on hold. Looking forward connecting.