Ideal way to do it is to find an FFL who sells NFA items, has the suppressor you want in stock, is set up to do eForms, and has an indoor range. That way, at least you can use your suppressor at their range while you wait for the stamp.
Yeah, I know you can do "conjucal visits" to your suppressors that are in jail if you bought from an FFL with a range. Unfortunately, I wanted a Hybrid 46m and the only local shop that had them in stock was one without a range. I wish I could just put the purchase out of my mind and forget about it, but I just can't! I'm like a kid waiting very impatiently for a christmas day that probably won't come for another 10 months, lol.
*eForms 4 Trust Timelines* *Suppressor #1* Purchased - 11/16/21 Certified - 1/21/22 Approved - 4/26/22 Days for Approval - 95 days Start to Finish - 161 days *Suppressor #2* Purchased - 1/12/22 Certified - 1/24/22 Approved - 5/4/22 Days for Approval - 100 days Start to Finish - 112 days *Suppressor #3* Purchased - 3/15/22 Certified - 4/7/22 Approved - 12/22/22 Days for Approval - 259 days Start to Finish - 282 days *Suppressor #4* Purchased - 4/11/22 Certified - 4/15/22 Approved - 1/6/23 Days for Approval - 266 days Start to Finish - 270 days
@@HaiTran Damn dude, I bought my suppressor (Hybrid 46m) on 1/12/22 as well, didn't certify until 4/23/22 (I don't know if SilencerShop dropped the ball, or my local FFL dealer I bought from), and now....I'm STILL waiting...as of today, I'm at about 120 days SINCE certification. I hope I'm close. I was losing hope but seeing youre timelines gives me some slight hope. Also, something else you stated in your video I'm kicking myself in the ass for is doing a single-shot when I was going to do individual. Well, I'm going to do another silencer sometime and I for sure will do individual. I don't have anyone Id put on a trust right now, anyway.
120+ days and counting... Clearly there are some cracks in the system. If I didn't buy the Unlimited Single Shot Trust, I would just go the individual route and get NFA items quicker.
If you file as an individual vs a trust, doesn’t your local Chief of police have to sign off? Or is this old info? As I recall some chiefs won’t sign these.
Well I bought a suppressor on 11.26 21 and I'm still waiting for them to approve it. It's great to see someone who bought one the same time I did. Congratulations. I honestly think my dealer is overwhelmed and can't keep up. New subscriber.
@@HaiTran I'll be waiting for awhile now I'm sure. Lol. It took me 4 weeks to get the dealer to get me in to submit the certification. Total of 5 minutes.
I ordered through SS. Two weeks I got certified. My FFL happens to be an attorney. He was very nice and did my certification remotely. When I contacted him about my “ready to certify” email he was at the airport. He made me a priority and we got it submitted. Now I wait on the ATF… Thanks for sharing your experience!
Just bought my 1st one went to range that has the silencer shop set up seem pretty easy and silencer shop has great customer service I had to call them
What's the deal with the FFL store wanting more hidden fees at the very last minute? They claim that they need another $100 fee because one surpressor came from another vendor.
@@HaiTran I wanted them to tell me the final price upfront twelve months ago so I could pay for everything. Not wait twelve months, after the ATF approval, to add on another fee just before trying to pickup the surpressor out the door. I am not expecting anything for free. I expect to be told the final price upfront.
@@HaiTran I paid for everything 12 months ago. Around $2400. Two surpressors and the trusts. I should have been told then that there was another $100 fee. Not tell me the day I go to pick up the surpressors. SS and the dealers have a serious systems and communications problem.
Did you order through Silencershop and shipped to a Silencershop dealer? If so, they shouldn't have charged you a transfer fee. You should contact Silencershop and let them know that that FFL is charging their customers frivolous fees. If you didn't go through Silencershop and a Silencershop dealer, then I can understand why they would charge you and extra transfer fee. However, I can't understand why they wouldn't charge that fee when you paid for everything else a year ago. It does sound like they're just trying to extort you for some extra money.
I bought a suppressor in Sept 2021 through silencer shop kiosk. Im at 13 months now and still now can!!! I also bought another suppressor Jan 2022 with the new efile and the 90 day sales pitch. 300+ days later...still now can. WTF???
I haven’t been on the eforms site in awhile because the whole interface is kind of trash and the site is generally buggy for me. I just go off the email that I got and keep a copy of the approved tax stamp on me.
I'm also in the same boat and I found out that it will only show on your dealer's account dashboard until its approved. Then once its been approved it will show on your dashboard. If you got the email that said it was submitted and in progress you're good to go
after becoming aware of quick individual approvals i purchased a suppressor direct from manufacturer monday currently waiting on form 3 then they will ship to my FFL and i will use the SS kiosk..i hope this new quick trend is real
SS made everything easy. Built my trust, signed my documents on my phone, certified my eForm 1 from home. Can't recommend them enough, they truly make everything easy and charge super reasonable for what they do. The only problem is that it's so easy to do another can or NFA item, that you'll buy cans like crazy. 👍
Purchased a Sandman S on 12/30/2021 as an individual, certified on 2/9/2022. After it’s certified is it just a waiting game? Currently on day 104 after being certified, this is my first suppressor so I just want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Thanks for the help!
Oof, I'm on day 160 for my eform 4. 90 days my ass lol. Every time I check online what the estimated wait times are, it keeps going up. Before it said 3-4 months now it is saying 7 months 😒
I bought 13 months ago. The shop waiting until march. So my approval took 8 months. Once you get the approval Email from the ATF. Is this the email that the gun shop needs? or are they waiting on a 2nd email?
Submitted eforms for a Sandman S about 12 days ago, have been waiting 349 days for a Surefire Mini 2. How ironic it would be to get the Sandman back first…
This entire process with SS has been terrible. 1st suppressor certified end of July. 2nd and 3rd certified end of August. The FFL did not know what to do, SS over promised and under delivered. The ATF said there intent was 90 day approval. SS promoted the 90 approval as actual approval time. You cannot cancel your order without taking a huge restocking penalty and you only get store credit. There will b3 a long wait for a refund on your tax stamp. This entire process has been very disappointing. I only committed to purchasing the suppressors, because SS promoted the 90 day approval.
It was always more so of we will TRY to get it approved in 90 days not we WILL get it approved in 90 days. At this point, you’re in for the ride. Just stop thinking about it because it’s out of your hands.
My FFL added on a hidden $100 fee just before walking out the door with one surpressor. Some bullshit about how it came from another vendor. So the final price is not the final price with SilencerShop.
im in NH been looking a sig Suppressors, since they just opened up a massive factory in Epping NH with a sick shooting range so i might try it but i dont like The idea of being put in a system.
I purchased my SBR MK18 1/4/22, eform 3 took about a month. Finally certified on 3/25. Just recently got approved on 12/6. Took a whole 256 days lol my rc2 was certified 4/28 and I’m currently at 245 days so hoping it’s soon.
Those days to certify fluctuate big time. My first series of emails were rapid then everything went silent. Now I await the email to certify. I guess I should just forget about it like you said. You watch a pot it won't boil kind of thing. Either way, the Silencer Shop kiosk is the bomb compared to the olden golden days of paper.
I filed an eForm 4 through Silencer Shop on 7/30/22. Still pending ATF approval today, 1/26/23. I called ATF this AM, and they stated new average wait time is 270 days..
@@HaiTran Cool. Thanks! Looks like I’ll be waiting closer to a year before I’ll see mine.. This is absurd. Pay extra and wait months for a purchased safety device. Compete nonsense.
Had a paper Form 4 Trust go into a "pending" status with ATF on June 1, 2021. It's now May 26, 2022 and my application is still in a "pending" status. 😒
think im about to try and bail one out of jail here soon for the first time haha. Gonna do the suppressor first i think since it takes so long then do a form 1 and build an sbr. Excited for this build as its my first nfa item. Always wanted a shorter rifle with a suppressor though they look like so much fun to shoot.
Once you get an email saying the your form 4 has been approved by the atf can you go pick up your item right away or do you have to wait for paper tax stamp to arrive? Thanks !
For both of the suppressors that I picked up, I just went and got them but I called to see what my FFL’s procedure is. I would suggest that you do that for your FFL. It’s just advised that you keep a copy of the Form 4 on you when traveling with an NFA item just in case you get in legal trouble and are questioned about it.
I purchased mine on 08/24 (did not do a trust) and certified on 09/10. My shop already had my suppressor in hand by 09/10. Everything is done and I'm just waiting now. I'm hoping I can luck out with a fast approval or at least within the claimed 90 days but I've heard some horror stories lately about people waiting 9-12+ months for e-form approvals.
I did it all on my PC @ home(toutch screen)but 1st of course had to mail photos(1 week for appointment),fingerprints(took 2 weeks for appointment) to silencershop and they forwarded to the ATF.Form 3 approved took another 2 weeks.certified by dealer 7/27/23 and been waiting ever since for form4 approval a Rugged brand Obsidian..
Good video explaining the process. Pretty accurate. However my experience was MUCH WORSE than Hai's. It still took me over 7 months to get my stamp ! And the kiosk process SUCKED !! As far as I'm concerned, there is NO advantage to using a Silencer Shop kiosk !!! I could have done almost everything online. I could go into excruciating detail but suffice to say that the process SUCKED and is NOT worth it !!!
You’re lucky er than I was. My 1st one took 15 months ( Individual). My second one took 1 day shy of one year ( trust ). Both were done by silencer shop So, I learned, buy it, do the paperwork and forget about it. It’ll come in when it comes. Both were bought before the pandemic bs fiasco started. I am going to buy another soon. So we’ll see how long that one takes
eForm or paper form, they all very slow, my first suppressor took 10 months paper form, waiting 6 months with eForm, heading out of the country for 2 months, hopefully when I get back my FFL have it ready to pickup
I was in the same boat before I saw this video and now notice that when you click "view" in orders menu and the pop up shows your item with the status bar next to it mine says : "Current Stage: Form 4: Customer Signatures Complete - Awaiting Form 3 Approval". For the life of me I can't see when the Form 3 was filed (another comment on this video said Silencer Shop page shows it) but that explains why my "Preparing for eForms" stage hasn't turned green yet! They're waiting for my item to ship from Texas to my gun store!
Honestly i been wanting a suppressor for like a year now and i just hate the fact that i gotta wait for it and not be able to use it for only atf knows how long as the only shop with a kiosk in my area is the one without a shooting range
Same but considering I've been following that logic for a decade and still wanting one it doesn't make sense at this point. So I went ahead and finally started the process.
I was not aware a flash/sound suppressor for a home defense weapon required an ATF APPROVAL. My ignorance was thinking only a new weapon purchase required a background/concealed carry permit. Live and learn something new every day.
Thank U. Yes until I looked into adding a suppressor to my AR-15 I had no idea. My thought was to help reduce flash & sound in a home defense weapon. Is it just ATF adding more & more rules like with pistol ARs vs SBRs? Or this is just more of what has been?
Absolutely no way of predicting but multiple people have commented about how they’ve been waiting about a year now. All you can do is hope that your application is faster.
@@HaiTran they scared me away with the first wait, that's why I got a chimera 300. Fits my 300 black out my 5.56 and my 7.62×39 got one to do it all. But she lives on my 300.
Eforms so far is crap well passed 90 days and nothing. I really do feel a lot safer, having to do a back ground check on a hearing safe Device. Seeing how so many crimes are committed with suppressors.
My first couple NFA items took between a year and a half all the way up to 2 years since then I've bought several others and they've all taken around a year but just paid for a Nomad LT a week ago and went through the eForm 4 process so this should be an easy wait considering how long I'm used to waiting... Thanks for sharing your experience brother it's given me a little hope this is going to be much faster!!!
Very informative video. I hope they have figured out all the bugs out with the E-Form 4. I bought my Rugged Obsidian 45 suppressor on 10-06-22 and had my FFL ready to certify about 5 days later and I received my e-mail from ATF showing Submitted/In Process on 10-15-22. I too also got the Single Shot Trust so I hope it just doesn't take too long. Please hurry so my Baby can come home!!
The FFL is demanding an extra $100 fee because I ordered a Sig modx9 which happens to come from another vendor. They waited a year to tell me about it. It is shady business practices.
@@HaiTran yea I swear after April things got so messed up with the everything I haven’t heard of anyone around here in nc getting theirs. I mean it sucks yea ofcourse but if you woulda seen the guy at the ffl and the sign spinner back in December 2021 with the 90 day approval. Glad you got at least some of yours rather quickly
I got some SBR’s that I want to buy but at this point, there’s no certainty if I’ll ever see them so I’m preparing for the Form 1 route for a lot of stuff.
Yep I’m 135 days now probably , probably always going to be 6 , 8 months . Is the government they never will get any better because they don’t have to They absolutely answer to nobody they take your money and then they said around and laugh at you. Your basic store clerk can run a background check on you in a matter of minutes but the government takes months even years go figure
@@HaiTran yep. I'm on day 160. On Reddit there are nfa groups charting the data. The amount of approvals per week steadily drops. Approval times increase.its trending to be worse than paper forms. By the year end it will for sure be 250 days or more.
I’m just trying to get my two suppressors on hold then I’ll probably stop with the NFA items for awhile to wait for some consistency in the wait times.
eForms is a complete shitshow. Average approvals since you posted this are now up to 200+ days. Nowhere near the "estimated 90 day approval". It's better than Paper, but it still sucks
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Ideal way to do it is to find an FFL who sells NFA items, has the suppressor you want in stock, is set up to do eForms, and has an indoor range. That way, at least you can use your suppressor at their range while you wait for the stamp.
Definitely ideal but won’t be applicable for most people 👍🏽
This is exactly what I did. I also ended ip having a baffle strike while using my sandman s and the ffl had to send it off to get fixed.
I didn’t know you could do this. I might get lucky though I doubt it
Yeah, I know you can do "conjucal visits" to your suppressors that are in jail if you bought from an FFL with a range. Unfortunately, I wanted a Hybrid 46m and the only local shop that had them in stock was one without a range. I wish I could just put the purchase out of my mind and forget about it, but I just can't! I'm like a kid waiting very impatiently for a christmas day that probably won't come for another 10 months, lol.
@@chrisoliver5302 I’m literally in the same boat as you. My 46m is in jail, except my FFL doesn’t have a range, fml.
*eForms 4 Trust Timelines*
*Suppressor #1*
Purchased - 11/16/21
Certified - 1/21/22
Approved - 4/26/22
Days for Approval - 95 days
Start to Finish - 161 days
*Suppressor #2*
Purchased - 1/12/22
Certified - 1/24/22
Approved - 5/4/22
Days for Approval - 100 days
Start to Finish - 112 days
*Suppressor #3*
Purchased - 3/15/22
Certified - 4/7/22
Approved - 12/22/22
Days for Approval - 259 days
Start to Finish - 282 days
*Suppressor #4*
Purchased - 4/11/22
Certified - 4/15/22
Approved - 1/6/23
Days for Approval - 266 days
Start to Finish - 270 days
Lucky you
No luck came into play. I paid for an item and waited for it.
Purchased december 2021, they didnt get to my eform until MARCH!!!!!! im still waiting 😡
@@HaiTran Damn dude, I bought my suppressor (Hybrid 46m) on 1/12/22 as well, didn't certify until 4/23/22 (I don't know if SilencerShop dropped the ball, or my local FFL dealer I bought from), and now....I'm STILL waiting...as of today, I'm at about 120 days SINCE certification. I hope I'm close. I was losing hope but seeing youre timelines gives me some slight hope. Also, something else you stated in your video I'm kicking myself in the ass for is doing a single-shot when I was going to do individual. Well, I'm going to do another silencer sometime and I for sure will do individual. I don't have anyone Id put on a trust right now, anyway.
120+ days and counting...
Clearly there are some cracks in the system. If I didn't buy the Unlimited Single Shot Trust, I would just go the individual route and get NFA items quicker.
Thank you for making this video. Im using a pre-made nfa trust also. Im in no hurry, since i heard it takes longer with trust
Best of luck!
If you file as an individual vs a trust, doesn’t your local Chief of police have to sign off? Or is this old info? As I recall some chiefs won’t sign these.
I’ve always done a trust so can’t answer this. But I’ve definitely heard that some police chiefs are against NFA items and won’t approve them.
Your backdrop is amazing man! Awesome content as well. I’m trying to get a suppressor for my new AR pistol
Thanks a lot bro 👍🏽
Well I bought a suppressor on 11.26 21 and I'm still waiting for them to approve it. It's great to see someone who bought one the same time I did. Congratulations. I honestly think my dealer is overwhelmed and can't keep up. New subscriber.
Do you know when your suppressor was certified or if it was done through eForms?
@@HaiTran 3/30/22.
@@HaiTran I'll be waiting for awhile now I'm sure. Lol. It took me 4 weeks to get the dealer to get me in to submit the certification. Total of 5 minutes.
Yeah, the dealer definitely took some time to certify and theoretically you still have about a month left but it can also be any day now. Who knows…
That’s one nice thing about filing as a trust, you can certify over the phone.
I picked up 4 cans from my dealer all on the same day. Waiting period on those ranged from 95 to 118 days.
Sounds like a good day 👍🏽
Are you still waiting Jesse?
I ordered through SS. Two weeks I got certified. My FFL happens to be an attorney. He was very nice and did my certification remotely. When I contacted him about my “ready to certify” email he was at the airport. He made me a priority and we got it submitted. Now I wait on the ATF… Thanks for sharing your experience!
Good luck!
the whole "ATF Certifying" process is ridiculous ...
Updated: 11mos later got my approval. Applied Nov. ‘22 approved Oct. 1st ‘23.
Just bought my 1st one went to range that has the silencer shop set up seem pretty easy and silencer shop has great customer service I had to call them
Enjoy it 👍🏽
What's the deal with the FFL store wanting more hidden fees at the very last minute? They claim that they need another $100 fee because one surpressor came from another vendor.
So you ordered a suppressor from a different vendor, wanted to transfer it to your local FFL, and wanted them to do the transfer for free?
@@HaiTran I wanted them to tell me the final price upfront twelve months ago so I could pay for everything. Not wait twelve months, after the ATF approval, to add on another fee just before trying to pickup the surpressor out the door. I am not expecting anything for free. I expect to be told the final price upfront.
Did you pay for what you suspect to be everything 12 months ago or nothing was paid for until you picked up?
@@HaiTran I paid for everything 12 months ago. Around $2400. Two surpressors and the trusts. I should have been told then that there was another $100 fee. Not tell me the day I go to pick up the surpressors. SS and the dealers have a serious systems and communications problem.
Did you order through Silencershop and shipped to a Silencershop dealer? If so, they shouldn't have charged you a transfer fee. You should contact Silencershop and let them know that that FFL is charging their customers frivolous fees. If you didn't go through Silencershop and a Silencershop dealer, then I can understand why they would charge you and extra transfer fee. However, I can't understand why they wouldn't charge that fee when you paid for everything else a year ago. It does sound like they're just trying to extort you for some extra money.
I bought a suppressor in Sept 2021 through silencer shop kiosk. Im at 13 months now and still now can!!!
I also bought another suppressor Jan 2022 with the new efile and the 90 day sales pitch. 300+ days later...still now can. WTF???
That sucks to hear. The system is a mess right now so who knows how long any application is going to take.
Efile form 4 time started 02/17/22 still waiting
I’m personally over 120 days with 2 suppressors at the moment…
Did your form 4 show up on your eforms dashboard? I was certified on 1/29/22 but not showing squat
I haven’t been on the eforms site in awhile because the whole interface is kind of trash and the site is generally buggy for me. I just go off the email that I got and keep a copy of the approved tax stamp on me.
@@HaiTran wasn’t sure if it ever showed anything or not. Thanks!
I hardly ever go on the eforms site because it kind of sucks. I go off the email notifications.
@@chrisfisher3900 Mine doesn't show anything either. all i have is an email as well.
I'm also in the same boat and I found out that it will only show on your dealer's account dashboard until its approved. Then once its been approved it will show on your dashboard. If you got the email that said it was submitted and in progress you're good to go
Still waiting on my can and I ordered mine through silencer central submitted it back in September of last year
Hopefully it’s any day now 👍🏽
I did my first eform 4 almost 9 months ago (may 3rd) still waiting for it to be approved.
Hope you get it soon since you weren’t too long after my April submissions 👍🏽
I did mines May 21st and I’m still waiting. It’s being “processed.”
after becoming aware of quick individual approvals i purchased a suppressor direct from manufacturer monday currently waiting on form 3 then they will ship to my FFL and i will use the SS kiosk..i hope this new quick trend is real
Me too. It has me thinking of buying some.
SS made everything easy. Built my trust, signed my documents on my phone, certified my eForm 1 from home. Can't recommend them enough, they truly make everything easy and charge super reasonable for what they do. The only problem is that it's so easy to do another can or NFA item, that you'll buy cans like crazy. 👍
Hope it's fast for you 👍🏽
Got my suppressor : finally got my tax stamp approval at 195 days
Was it through eforms?
@@HaiTran yes sir
Great……..
I’m at over 120 days on two suppressors so I guess I could possibly be waiting a lot longer.
@@HaiTranany luck yet?
Yes, look at the pinned comment.
I purchased mine August 6 2021 form four individual and the check cleared on the 15th that month and I'm still waiting over a year now
Yeah, I've lost hope in the two suppressors I have in waiting. It's out of my hands and I forget about them most days.
My Dead Air Primal
Purchased - 3/10/22
Certified- 3/16/22
Still waiting on the approval 223 days later😢
I’m officially over the 200 days mark on two suppressors.
Purchased Omega 36M on 4/14/22, eform 4 certify on 5/16/22, waiting game begin. My first suppressor purchased 11/20, took 10 months to received.
Good luck 👍🏽
Finally got the approved today 2/8/2023, took almost 9 months, 90 days my %$#%^
Better than nothing.
Purchased a Sandman S on 12/30/2021 as an individual, certified on 2/9/2022. After it’s certified is it just a waiting game? Currently on day 104 after being certified, this is my first suppressor so I just want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Thanks for the help!
Yup, certifying is the last thing you do before approval/pickup.
Oof, I'm on day 160 for my eform 4. 90 days my ass lol. Every time I check online what the estimated wait times are, it keeps going up. Before it said 3-4 months now it is saying 7 months 😒
Yeah, around 200 days seem to be the norm right now.
I purchased mine 11/18/21 sst with eform, was certified around 100 days, still awaiting approval..
Best of luck!
Paper filed form 4, cashed June 1 2021. Still waiting....
Hopefully it’s approved soon👍🏽
I bought 13 months ago. The shop waiting until march. So my approval took 8 months. Once you get the approval Email from the ATF. Is this the email that the gun shop needs? or are they waiting on a 2nd email?
The approval is the final step. That's what you need for pick up.
Submitted eforms for a Sandman S about 12 days ago, have been waiting 349 days for a Surefire Mini 2. How ironic it would be to get the Sandman back first…
You got one of those super long waits that worried me about getting into NFA items in the first place!
@@HaiTran unfortunately that seems to be the case. My first suppressor took 6 months in 2020, not so lucky this time 😂
Yeah, it's a hit or miss with our almighty gun control rulers.
Did the same thing waiting on my first suppressor I'm at 8 months now just e filed for an omega 300 1 month ago lol I said the same thing
This entire process with SS has been terrible. 1st suppressor certified end of July. 2nd and 3rd certified end of August. The FFL did not know what to do, SS over promised and under delivered. The ATF said there intent was 90 day approval. SS promoted the 90 approval as actual approval time. You cannot cancel your order without taking a huge restocking penalty and you only get store credit. There will b3 a long wait for a refund on your tax stamp. This entire process has been very disappointing. I only committed to purchasing the suppressors, because SS promoted the 90 day approval.
It was always more so of we will TRY to get it approved in 90 days not we WILL get it approved in 90 days. At this point, you’re in for the ride. Just stop thinking about it because it’s out of your hands.
You and a shit ton of people. Silencer shop totally f'd us! It's they got the sales is all they care about
My FFL added on a hidden $100 fee just before walking out the door with one surpressor. Some bullshit about how it came from another vendor. So the final price is not the final price with SilencerShop.
im in NH been looking a sig Suppressors, since they just opened up a massive factory in Epping NH with a sick shooting range so i might try it but i dont like The idea of being put in a system.
Do you have a driver’s license?
It took 423 days for my Dead Air Sandman S. Did it the paper route right before they announced E-forms.
That's rough but at least you got it 👍🏽
Purchased my AB Raptor on June 23rd, certified on July 2nd so now the waiting game begins lol. Just gonna try to forget about it for now.
Yup, it’s out of your hands now 👍🏽
I certified my eform4 on silencer shop on 23rd of June 22 and still haven't got mine yet
I got two in since April so…..
I purchased my SBR MK18 1/4/22, eform 3 took about a month. Finally certified on 3/25. Just recently got approved on 12/6. Took a whole 256 days lol my rc2 was certified 4/28 and I’m currently at 245 days so hoping it’s soon.
Hopefully you’ll get it soon!
I literally can’t find anything on filing as an individual or a trustee I wish you would’ve covered some of the things that are different about them
It’s practically the exact same process. Contact the FFL that you’ll be working with as they’ll be the entity handling a portion of the paperwork.
It's pretty crazy hearing how long form 3's take. Mine managed to transfer in 5 days... I hope my luck didn't run out...
Good luck!
Those days to certify fluctuate big time. My first series of emails were rapid then everything went silent. Now I await the email to certify. I guess I should just forget about it like you said. You watch a pot it won't boil kind of thing. Either way, the Silencer Shop kiosk is the bomb compared to the olden golden days of paper.
It seems like wait times can fluctuate for any of the steps. The system definitely has room for improvement but better than before.
I filed an eForm 4 through Silencer Shop on 7/30/22. Still pending ATF approval today, 1/26/23. I called ATF this AM, and they stated new average wait time is 270 days..
I share my wait times in this video:
ruclips.net/video/Of-eopZCp5A/видео.html
@@HaiTran Cool. Thanks! Looks like I’ll be waiting closer to a year before I’ll see mine.. This is absurd. Pay extra and wait months for a purchased safety device. Compete nonsense.
Hopefully the influx of Form 1s don’t effect your wait times too bad.
@@HaiTran Thanks man.
No problem 👍🏽
I ordered mine from Silencer Shop using eFourms 4 and Single Shot Trust 5-11 2022, certified 6-12-2022. 95 days from certification and still nothing.
160+ days on two suppressors here 👍🏽
Now at 107 days, still nothing.
With the current wait times, I’d suggest not thinking about it too much. You likely have a good amount of time to go.
Have your other suppressors gotten approved yet?
Look at the pinned comment for this video or this: ruclips.net/video/Of-eopZCp5A/видео.html
@@HaiTran i saw ur other video right after the comment lol. Thanks for the info.
No problem 👍🏽
Had a paper Form 4 Trust go into a "pending" status with ATF on June 1, 2021. It's now May 26, 2022 and my application is still in a "pending" status.
😒
Better start making some friends at the ATF so you can get someone to push that through!
think im about to try and bail one out of jail here soon for the first time haha. Gonna do the suppressor first i think since it takes so long then do a form 1 and build an sbr. Excited for this build as its my first nfa item. Always wanted a shorter rifle with a suppressor though they look like so much fun to shoot.
NFA items definitely add a level of fun 👍🏽
Ordered mine 8-2021. Still waiting
I’m assuming you didn’t get to do eforms?
Individual - Form 4 - Eform
Certified 4/6/22
still Pending as of 12/8/22 - 246 Days
Anyone @ or around this time frame?
You’re one day ahead of me to certify on one of my suppressors. I’m also still waiting.
Once you get an email saying the your form 4 has been approved by the atf can you go pick up your item right away or do you have to wait for paper tax stamp to arrive? Thanks !
For both of the suppressors that I picked up, I just went and got them but I called to see what my FFL’s procedure is. I would suggest that you do that for your FFL. It’s just advised that you keep a copy of the Form 4 on you when traveling with an NFA item just in case you get in legal trouble and are questioned about it.
@@HaiTran thanks !
Good luck!
I believe they email you the stamp now instead so your good to pick it up. Saw it at my local shop last week. I’m in NFA jail now waiting for my stamp
@@HaiTran 2/26 still nothing 😞
I purchased mine on 08/24 (did not do a trust) and certified on 09/10. My shop already had my suppressor in hand by 09/10. Everything is done and I'm just waiting now. I'm hoping I can luck out with a fast approval or at least within the claimed 90 days but I've heard some horror stories lately about people waiting 9-12+ months for e-form approvals.
The wait times seem to be around 200 days right now. I’m currently at 170+ days on two suppressors.
I've heard people complain about them kioscks!
People complain about everything. Some valid, some not. Better to try for yourself and develop your own opinions.
I did it all on my PC @ home(toutch screen)but 1st of course had to mail photos(1 week for appointment),fingerprints(took 2 weeks for appointment) to silencershop and they forwarded to the ATF.Form 3 approved took another 2 weeks.certified by dealer 7/27/23 and been waiting ever since for form4 approval a Rugged brand Obsidian..
Does my silencer shop account email have to be the same as my eform receipt email or maintenance email?
It’s been awhile, but I believe so. You may want to check with SilencerShop.
@@HaiTran Thanks for responding lol I haven't been able to get a response from anyone anywhere 😭
Yeah, when they get busy, SilencerShop is really bad about getting to customers. I remember having to wait for hours on hold just to talk to someone.
Good video explaining the process. Pretty accurate. However my experience was MUCH WORSE than Hai's. It still took me over 7 months to get my stamp ! And the kiosk process SUCKED !! As far as I'm concerned, there is NO advantage to using a Silencer Shop kiosk !!! I could have done almost everything online. I could go into excruciating detail but suffice to say that the process SUCKED and is NOT worth it !!!
Here is my update: ruclips.net/video/Of-eopZCp5A/видео.html
Got my approval yesterday for my efile form 4. Guess I only have a year to receive my suppressor now..yaaayy 😒😒😒😒
Enjoy it while you can 👍🏽
And I'm still waiting ... over 6 months .....
You’re not the only one 👍🏽
“preparing for eforms” is where i am at.. its been 7 days lol
I’m surprised it’s slowed down.
You’re lucky er than I was. My 1st one took 15 months ( Individual). My second one took 1 day shy of one year ( trust ). Both were done by silencer shop So, I learned, buy it, do the paperwork and forget about it. It’ll come in when it comes.
Both were bought before the pandemic bs fiasco started. I am going to buy another soon. So we’ll see how long that one takes
Right now it's looking like 200+ days for Form 4s but that's still relatively quick for someone like you.
eForm or paper form, they all very slow, my first suppressor took 10 months paper form, waiting 6 months with eForm, heading out of the country for 2 months, hopefully when I get back my FFL have it ready to pickup
It is what it is.
Just got a recieved and uploaded email from silencershop, now do i wait on the certify email?
For a trust
If you've done all the paperwork, certifying is the last thing that you do, then wait.
Purchased on 04/26/22
Still waiting on "Preparing for eForms" to turn green 😢
Someone’s slacking with your paperwork!
Their system hasn't been updating people. I'd call your dealer and ask them to check on their end.
I was in the same boat before I saw this video and now notice that when you click "view" in orders menu and the pop up shows your item with the status bar next to it mine says : "Current Stage: Form 4: Customer Signatures Complete - Awaiting Form 3 Approval". For the life of me I can't see when the Form 3 was filed (another comment on this video said Silencer Shop page shows it) but that explains why my "Preparing for eForms" stage hasn't turned green yet! They're waiting for my item to ship from Texas to my gun store!
It’s been 129 days from being certified and I’m still waiting approval..haven’t even got a notice yet that the check has been cashed yet
Yup. I’m well over 90 days on 2 suppressors at the moment. There’s clearly some deficiencies in this system.
130
Any of you guys get approved yet? Hal or Rob?
150+ days and still no approvals.
Dang…hoping for some encouragement, lol
I am at 180 days...... So painful especially this being my first suppressor.
Currently 170+ days on my third and fourth.
I certainly am.
update?
Honestly i been wanting a suppressor for like a year now and i just hate the fact that i gotta wait for it and not be able to use it for only atf knows how long as the only shop with a kiosk in my area is the one without a shooting range
Yeah, unfortunately it is what it is. Either you play along or you don’t get the NFA items.
Same but considering I've been following that logic for a decade and still wanting one it doesn't make sense at this point. So I went ahead and finally started the process.
It sux that you have to file the paper work one every suppressor once your approved you should be able to buy them and just send in the paper work
You'd think the process would be easier considering what the item is but that's life.
I was not aware a flash/sound suppressor for a home defense weapon required an ATF APPROVAL. My ignorance was thinking only a new weapon purchase required a background/concealed carry permit. Live and learn something new every day.
Yes, there’s quite a large category of firearms that require additional approval.
Thank U. Yes until I looked into adding a suppressor to my AR-15 I had no idea. My thought was to help reduce flash & sound in a home defense weapon. Is it just ATF adding more & more rules like with pistol ARs vs SBRs? Or this is just more of what has been?
Both. These have been standard restrictions but more restrictions are continually attempted to be added.
It's so stupid that you have to wait 3-12 months for something that protects your hearing...
Purchased 9/10/22.
Certified 9/21/22
With a trust
Griffin armament dual lock 5 series
Pending now
Good luck!
I have never had any e-form under 90 days!
Most people haven’t 👍🏽
i’m currently 4month into waiting for my e form to get approved 😭
You likely still have a pretty long wait so just stop thinking about it.
@@HaiTran how much longer do you think?
Absolutely no way of predicting but multiple people have commented about how they’ve been waiting about a year now. All you can do is hope that your application is faster.
Purchase mine on 12/31/21
Certified on 3/3/22
Still waiting for approval.
Good luck 👍🏽
Still waiting!
It took me 15 months to get mine back but it was before the eforms came out the wait just sucked...
I’m definitely finding out that the 90 days is definitely a soft estimate as I’m over 120 days on two suppressors right now.
@@HaiTran they scared me away with the first wait, that's why I got a chimera 300. Fits my 300 black out my 5.56 and my 7.62×39 got one to do it all. But she lives on my 300.
Enjoy it 👍🏽
Eforms so far is crap well passed 90 days and nothing. I really do feel a lot safer, having to do a back ground check on a hearing safe Device. Seeing how so many crimes are committed with suppressors.
Unfortunately, it is what it is.
My first couple NFA items took between a year and a half all the way up to 2 years since then I've bought several others and they've all taken around a year but just paid for a Nomad LT a week ago and went through the eForm 4 process so this should be an easy wait considering how long I'm used to waiting... Thanks for sharing your experience brother it's given me a little hope this is going to be much faster!!!
I’m hopping to get my Nomad L within a month!
I'm at 475 days on a SF RC2 can! 2years bro? That's insane!! Although, I feel I might not ever see this can 😢
@@westernoutpost4154 that is crazy
update?
13 months for approval with eforms and assistance from my congressman
Very informative video. I hope they have figured out all the bugs out with the E-Form 4. I bought my Rugged Obsidian 45 suppressor on 10-06-22 and had my FFL ready to certify about 5 days later and I received my e-mail from ATF showing Submitted/In Process on 10-15-22. I too also got the Single Shot Trust so I hope it just doesn't take too long. Please hurry so my Baby can come home!!
Be prepared to wait because wait times are typically 200+ days right now.
Purchased 2/15/22
Approved 2/28/22
Idk how, but that was the fastest approval I've ever received for my Dead Air.
Man, you definitely got one of those miracle turn around times. Did you file as an individual?
Purchased mine in January with eform and still waiting, it’s actually been 112 days since I certified.. individual trust too
Hopefully it’s any day now 👍🏽
Oh yeah it's easy ,my first by paper took 6 mo.,my second with eforms drumroll ! 16 mo. So far.😢
That’s rough bro.
Is this G4S Tran, through earl seegars ?
I have no idea what your last comment means.
@HaiTran I knew a Tran that was a student at our security school in Ga. Then went on to work for G4S security, thought it might be you.
16 months and still waiting on the stamp from my overlords
Did you do paper filing?
Now I just need to be able to afford a suppressor 😂
Lol there’s some pretty affordable ones, relatively speaking.
Paper Form 4 Individual I am at 528 days.
Dam! Going on two years!
So far 338 days into eforms. Still waiting
I’m 200+ days on two suppressors at the moment. Things aren’t looking too good.
@@HaiTran not at all. They took six months to certify me. Purchased 11/22/2021. Efile.
Wow that’s crazy. So the outlook for you is presumably very bleak and a lot of waiting left for you.
@@HaiTran yea. Silencershop really held my process up
Well, it’s out of your hands now so just set it and forget it 👍🏽
It’s 2023 and I’m past month 7. Still waiting. Lol. It’s the govt. they suck.
Check the pinned comment for my wait times.
Don't expect any help from this The Silencer Shop especially if you don't buy what they sell.
The FFL is demanding an extra $100 fee because I ordered a Sig modx9 which happens to come from another vendor. They waited a year to tell me about it. It is shady business practices.
Bro....I would make a lovely video too if only 95 days. Christ you are one if like 25 people. Mine bought Dec18, Certified April14, Still waiting
I’m at about 8 months with two suppressors…
@@HaiTran yea I swear after April things got so messed up with the everything I haven’t heard of anyone around here in nc getting theirs. I mean it sucks yea ofcourse but if you woulda seen the guy at the ffl and the sign spinner back in December 2021 with the 90 day approval. Glad you got at least some of yours rather quickly
Dam they were hella pushing it if they got a sign spinner out there.
@@HaiTran I may have made that part up…but they almost did lol.
I got some SBR’s that I want to buy but at this point, there’s no certainty if I’ll ever see them so I’m preparing for the Form 1 route for a lot of stuff.
Purchased in April 17th 2022... still waiting it's Dec 23... over 240 days now... 90 day scam
My third just got approved yesterday at 259 days. One more to go!
BS I’m going into 150+ days waiting through e-forms and don’t guarantee crap.
I’m 150+ days with two suppressors at the moment. Also, it was never a guarantee, more of a we’ll try to keep it quick.
Seven months and counting!
I’m currently over 90 days on two suppressors so we’ll see how that goes 🙄
I’m like at 89 days :(
I was over 90 days on both the ones I received so it’s definitely a possibility.
Thanks bro !
No problem and good luck bro 👍🏽
Do not despair y’all!!! Mine just got approved today !!! After 200+ days have faith!!!
Sigh...that's both good and terrible news! I think I'm at 160+ days on 2 suppressors right now.
My form 3 was submitted on 5/1 and was just approved today (5/5). 🤞 the form 4 will go quickly as well!
Hopefully it will and good luck!
How do you know when they submit your form 3 ? And did anyone else get a docusign email form silencer shop that filed as individual?? Please help lol
For my Form 3s, I asked. It’s not something FFLs actively keep you updated on because it’s not really something you need to know.
Thanks
No problem 👍🏽
Eform 4 is a joke, My FFL sent in the form on 6/18/22 and I'm still waiting as of 10/14/22.
I’ve been waiting since the beginning of April 👍🏽
I'm at 195 days E form trust silencer central 🤦
Some people have been getting them around 200 days so hopefully soon for you 👍🏽
At 230 days
Hopefully almost there 👍🏽
@@HaiTran just got approved
That’s pretty good timing. Now go and enjoy it!
@@HaiTran I sent an email to my congressman yesterday about ATF wait times and asked for any help and today got approved
lol probably just a coincidence but you never know.
90 days is BS! I’m at day 149
Total crapshoot 👍🏽
Yep I’m 135 days now probably , probably always going to be 6 , 8 months .
Is the government they never will get any better because they don’t have to
They absolutely answer to nobody they take your money and then they said around and laugh at you.
Your basic store clerk can run a background check on you in a matter of minutes but the government takes months even years go figure
120 day's and still waiting 😡
Total crapshoot 👍🏽
This hasn't aged well. Seriously, they're typically now taking anywhere from $180 to 195 days. It's only getting worse
130+ days currently on two suppressors. ATF FTW 👍🏽
@@HaiTran yep. I'm on day 160. On Reddit there are nfa groups charting the data. The amount of approvals per week steadily drops. Approval times increase.its trending to be worse than paper forms. By the year end it will for sure be 250 days or more.
I’m just trying to get my two suppressors on hold then I’ll probably stop with the NFA items for awhile to wait for some consistency in the wait times.
eForms is a complete shitshow. Average approvals since you posted this are now up to 200+ days. Nowhere near the "estimated 90 day approval". It's better than Paper, but it still sucks
Yup, I have 2 suppressors at 160+ days at the moment.